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 wuestenfux wrote:

 heartserenade wrote:
They're selling what now?!?

Wallpaper?

I think GW's is quite clear this year.
Establishing a new game or call it Fantasy 9th edition.
Start at smaller pt level such that players have a chance to get into the game and Fantasy players can adapt.

The revenue this year will mainly come from the new game and 40k supplements and data slates.
I hope it will work out.

I hope it doesn't, so maybe they'll finally get it through their heads that people want a good fething game to play, not just overpriced figures to play it with.

WayneTheGame wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 heartserenade wrote:
They're selling what now?!?

Wallpaper?

I think GW's is quite clear this year.
Establishing a new game or call it Fantasy 9th edition.
Start at smaller pt level such that players have a chance to get into the game and Fantasy players can adapt.

The revenue this year will mainly come from the new game and 40k supplements and data slates.
I hope it will work out.

I hope it doesn't, so maybe they'll finally get it through their heads that people want a good fething game to play, not just overpriced figures to play it with.

I'm with you here.
But still I hope the show goes on.

 wuestenfux wrote:

WayneTheGame wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 heartserenade wrote:
They're selling what now?!?

Wallpaper?

I think GW's is quite clear this year.
Establishing a new game or call it Fantasy 9th edition.
Start at smaller pt level such that players have a chance to get into the game and Fantasy players can adapt.

The revenue this year will mainly come from the new game and 40k supplements and data slates.
I hope it will work out.

I hope it doesn't, so maybe they'll finally get it through their heads that people want a good fething game to play, not just overpriced figures to play it with.

I'm with you here.
But still I hope the show goes on.

The show won't be stopping anytime soon...

In terms of the impact that a new Fantasy game may or may not have on the year end report...a lot of that will depend on when it comes out. Year ends the beginning of June. The bulk of the initial run on a new release happens in the first month or so of the release, that means that to have the most impact it would need to be released the end of April. Based off from past data on Fantasy sales, a new edition on its own wouldn't be enough to turn around the report from another year over year drop in profit (a Fantasy Edition release is good for about $2-2.5 million). That means if they are counting on it doing much at all in terms of the numbers - they will need to drop a whole lot more at the same time. Completely rewrite the army books and push them all out the door at the same time might work. As would invalidating large numbers of existing figures and replacing them with new figures to buy.

Granted, some of the info coming from that direction does in fact point to that as what is going to happen. The problem then becomes that instead of having your existing Fantasy player base (minus a bit for those who leave/stick with the old edition) you run the risk of forcing even more of those players away. Then the $2-2.5 million becomes something like $300-500K, and you are stuck carrying a lot of inventory over to the next year (which makes the books look a bit worse). GW is playing a game right now, in trying to figure out how to get more money back in their coffers. It is a very risky game too - as a lot of people who like WFB like it because of the big blocks of troops. They also often have much larger armies, and the thought of those much larger armies becoming irrelevant with new rules probably won't sit too well with the old guard.

Given that the old guard are the ones who do the advertising/recruiting for GW - it could be enough to kill the game as being commercially viable for GW to continue.