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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyTWM4NLRCs

The video has gone according to me.

The rules can be found posted on Bell of Lost Souls.
They are basically 3 wound chosen (but toughness 5), still infantry, but on 40mm bases.
They come with a rule that says they have the Armed to the Teef. Choose at the start of a combat what you want to fight with.
They have marks of nurgle (duh).
They cost as much as a chaos knight.

T5 is nice, but 40 points for a model that can be stomped on and lost to killing blow is a bit of a bummer.
It is a unit that can absorb a charge from just about anything, or throw out a handful of S6 attacks.

Overall, I'm a bit disappointed. They don't really seem special to me, with their one and only unique rule being that of Armed to the Teef.

Oh I've seen the rules and I would have to agree with you.

If they were monstrous infantry then it would be 10/10 would bang. It might be a misprint as things can change from white dwarf to rulebook.


They are tough, but they fill the same slot as regular Nurgle warriors if you ask me.

Sorry! Decided to pull the video. Another youtuber who's been at it longer than me and with many more subs posted his video on the same topic up just before mine, so I did the gentlemanly thing and removed mine. Most people would go to his anyway, so doesn't really matter. A coincidence. Yeah, the rules are on that site if you need, or I can post what I had in the screen shot if you can't find it.

Personally i'm rather annoyed how the models and the unit hasn't even come out yet and as soon as the pics were leaked and some info was shown everybody jumped on the "it's crap" train. First off we haven't even used them in a game yet. 2nd i have no idea if it's 25 mm x 25 mm or if it's ogre sized and nobody does. Also the 'leaked' info might be wrong about them being infantry. Even if it isn't wrong and it's 25 mm x 25 mm it's actually not so bad in a single rank mostly 6 wide with maybe 2 in back as casualties will be inflicted before it hits the main lines or gets to fight back. I mean that way you can get all your attacks without having the just one supporting attack. Finally remember this is 'End Times' stuff and people think this will herald in 9th edition. When that hits monstrous infantry might take a nerf or possibly infantry will get a buff and be able to attack in supporting ranks with more than one attack (maybe their normal profile attacks in amount for all we know). This is significant as what's good now might change tomorrow when 9th hits.

I won't lie that what we know today is that they might not be so good and we don't know what tomorrow will bring in 9th but it's possible they will become good.

All this aside they still look like sweet models. These models are actually fairly impressive aesthetically if nothing else.

Sorry i'm done ranting but i really think we should let the models hit the battlefield and have the actual rules shown rather than a 'leaked' profile before we decide. That said i think the rules are mostly just contained in the kit itself which seems like a rather dirty deal by GW for us to not know what it does before we buy the kit and open it first.

People saying they're crap are idiots. 3W T5 models that even elites hit on 5+, and can smack back with WS6 great weapons with AP (razor standard) and 3 attacks a piece. fething awesome unit. Oh and they're infantry, so you can stick infantry heroes in there to get LoS!

And even if they're sub-par in a WoC army, they're also available in Demons and Beastmen. That gives the former something to do with that pesky Banner, and the latter a solid anti-armour unit that doesn't bleed wounds like a stuck pig.

Blight Kings are awesome, and anybody who says otherwise is lacking in imagination. They're not bent (as they would be with MI), but they're still very solid.

I like the rules for them. Not the best unit in the game and just because they are infantry that doesn't mean they are going to he bush.

If I was running a chaos army I would pick some up. I was thinking of starting daemons before I started fantasy and maybe I will. Just depends on how the release goes.

Anyways this unit will give beastmen players a nice unit to look forward to tho for sure. Pretty tough to take down compared to a lot of their army

Well if they are not on 40mm bases then they are the size of nurglings.

I'm not saying they are bad, but their size makes them lacklustre and hard to move around. Five wide makes them the width of a unit in horde formation and they still have no rank bonus to speak of. Plus you'll never actually rank them up because its a waste of points and a waste of attacks.

I'll probably get them anyway, along with the new Maggot Lord (which looks awesome at least) because Nurgle is my bro anyway.

I think the complaints about stomp and killing blow are a little weirdly overblown, but I'm not playing as much as some. Seems to me the bigger deal is the move 4. They look pretty appropriately pointed to me. Avoidable, perhaps but a tough nut to crack.

Who says they are crap?
I just don't think they are special.
Yes, they are on 40's. Just look at the height of a model and the size of the base. Compare that to a warrior of chaos.
Look out? At 40 points a model, you need 200 points to get a look out, 280 to likely be able to keep it for a whole turn.
As far as tactics go, seems to me warbanner is what's needed.
You're getting 4 guys in base to base with 25mm units. That's 13 attacks if your taking a champ. Even with 3+ to hit and 2+ to wound (then 6+ parry), crap goblins have a good shot at beating with static combat res.
Mark of Nurgle is GREAT, which is why being infantry sucks.
Getting hit on 5's looks awesome until you take 3-5 auto hits from stomp/thunder stomp.
As far as the "rumors" go, there's multiple photos of the actual rules. If people were saying they are infantry, I'd wouldn't believe it. But it isn't people posting from memory, it's a photo, and it's clearly marked Infantry.

Really, GW could have been a lot more creative than you get great weapons, 2 hand weapons and a shield.
Tentacles could have been slug skin (S3 auto hit at the start of close combat), grab an opponent and reduce his flee from combat, and extra hand weapon attack (so you strike at Init 5, then init 1 with great weapon), and so on.
By making them chosen with T5, it's not all that different than just taking chosen with the halfway decent roll on the chosen chart.

On the other hand, for beastmen it's a godsend. Convert your minotaur to these guys and never look back.

I just find it rather insulting. A unit that is completely toughness 5, 3 wounds a piece, 3 attacks base and is pretty much a warrior of chaos in every other aspect.

Even should you get thunderstomped chances are several hits will be made and half will fail to wound. So what like 2 wounds on a unit with 3 wounds per guy?

I didn't measure it up but this is hardly the first bunch of models GW has exaggerated in size with photos (see bastiladon with solar engine as it's freaking small on the table).

The movement 4 is understandably not great but considering it's movement 4 and classified as infantry there's still a big chance they are 25 mm x 25 mm. Keep in mind we haven't seen them on the table yet.

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As far as who says they're crap i belong to some warhammer gaming group of fairly tournament level players and i find it insulting how bad they thought they were. Admittedly the club's leader had a point with the game being mostly cavalry anyway these days and just getting moved around and killed by warlocks or sisters of thorn all day. That said for other factions that don't have those options and have to fight slower this could be decent against.

I dunno i'm just rather unhappy people all board the 'it's crap' train before even testing the unit out or even seeing it hit the field. Even if they are ogre or troll sized they're not terrible. Rat ogres are str 5 and toughness 4 with 3 wounds and worse initiative, WS and leadership. Admittedly rat ogres are some of the worst monstrous infantry but they still might see some time on the table. I mean i feel like this unit would plenty of monstrous infantry.

Decent points but the pics show the base as clearly larger than 20mm or 25mm. Yes, could be tricks of the camera (inadvertently) making it look larger, but the images I've seen, it looks to my eye like 40mm. We'll see soon enough.

I think that they would be solid in any army other than Warriors of Cheese. They have a lot of flexibility, being able to either anvil (sword and board) or murderinate (great weapons). I would say that the biggest dissapointment with them is that they can't get the full range of supporting attacks. Being stomped is sad, but I wouldn't expect many monsters to do that well against so many S6 attacks anyway. In short, I think that this is a really solid unit that offers in-game flexibility and which will be a bugger for the opponent to shift.

I am definitely going to include a unit of 5 in a Portalglyph in my army as a big middle finger to the banner of the world dragon

 Lord Commissar wrote:
I am definitely going to include a unit of 5 in a Portalglyph in my army as a big middle finger to the banner of the world dragon

That's pretty awesome.
I may need to find somebody with crazy modeling skills. I want one standing on a world dragon banner, one taking a dump on a world dragon banner, one wiping his butt with a world dragon banner, one taking a leak on the world dragon banner; any ideals for the 5th?
After all, they could have 5 world dragon banners, since every elf army ever seems to have one.

Just make sure you've got enough to get through the 30 odd dudes walking with the banner.

 HawaiiMatt wrote:

 Lord Commissar wrote:
I am definitely going to include a unit of 5 in a Portalglyph in my army as a big middle finger to the banner of the world dragon

That's pretty awesome.
I may need to find somebody with crazy modeling skills. I want one standing on a world dragon banner, one taking a dump on a world dragon banner, one wiping his butt with a world dragon banner, one taking a leak on the world dragon banner; any ideals for the 5th?
After all, they could have 5 world dragon banners, since every elf army ever seems to have one.

how about one lighting a BotWD on fire - with natural, non-magical fire of course

I like the models so i have got 10 of them - not sure how i will fit them in my list as of yet ( if i do)

 HawaiiMatt wrote:

 Lord Commissar wrote:
I am definitely going to include a unit of 5 in a Portalglyph in my army as a big middle finger to the banner of the world dragon

That's pretty awesome.
I may need to find somebody with crazy modeling skills. I want one standing on a world dragon banner, one taking a dump on a world dragon banner, one wiping his butt with a world dragon banner, one taking a leak on the world dragon banner; any ideals for the 5th?
After all, they could have 5 world dragon banners, since every elf army ever seems to have one.

Vomitting on the world dragon banner?

Perfect.

I just want that Musician model, to make my Plague Priest.