Units you refuse to use!

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**Inky**

Hey there Dakka (that sounds way too informal for you oiks) I was on my daily commute, and I got to thinking about models or units, that I, for one reason or another refuse to use and why.
My pick was Eldar Guardians, as their aesthetic annoys me and they just seem....eh.
I'm also not particularly fond of Fire Dragons due to the daft mustache they have on their model.

**phatonic**

In my ork army i like to generally use all the units just for the sheer fun of it.

As for my space marines... Vanguard and my nomal tactical termies seems to gather some dust unless in apoc games.

**Co'tor Shas**

Riptides, they completely go against all the tau fluff to that point. That and I love crisis suits.

**Barksdale**

The Taurox. My slowed nine year old nephew could have designed a better miniature.

**Dannyevilguy**

Ratlings.

I will use all manor of counts as, but I will never use the actual ratling sniper models as I think they are hideous.

**BladeSwinga**

Hellturkeys. Centurions. Mutilators. For aesthetic reasons alone. After that, anything I have is fair game.

**nerdfest09**

Centurions for me! just don't like them design wise and I just don't understand why they'd be marines in exo armour when you've got Terminators touted for years as the heavy armoured shock and awe guys already.

**Brother SRM**

I refused to use Vendettas in my IG armies. Now that they're costed a bit more appropriately I'll think about it, but they don't really fit in thematically with my WW2 Soviet Valhallan Guard.

**throwoff**

Centurions again from me.

Just make no sense as units and look god awful to my eyes.

**ClassicCarraway**

I refuse to use anything Nurgle in my daemon army. I've never cared for the concept of Nurgle (who worships a god of disease and contagion) and the models just never did it for me.

**squidhills**

Centurions. I don't care how effective Dev Cents can be; i have no place in my army for a model that looks like a genetically engineered teddy bear made of murder.

**jhe90**

Centurians, its near on 50quid for 3 models.

Just too exepnsive

**throwoff**

I also refuse to buy Sterngaurds, 30 quid for 5 is a joke, I have been building up my bits box for some time and when I get round to it I will buy a Tactical squad and make my Sternguards from that and my bits.

**Paradigm**

Centurians, Taurox, both on looks.

I'd never refuse to use a flier, but I've never had any overriding desire to use one. If someone insisted and was willing to lend me a model, I'd use it, but I have no need for them myself.

**Gashrog**

Centurions make fluff sense as a loophole for Codex adherent chapters - Guilliman decreed that Terminator armour be issued only to the elite first company, Centurions are not Terminator armour so can - and are - issued to other companies.

I refuse to use them however due to the godawful model, like the original Dark Eldar the art looks good but the actual miniature is awful. I also despise the name, its a not to where they got the idea but doesn't make sense in-game for people who speak faux latin.

**Bran Dawri**

Wolf Riders for my Wolves, the concept is just too stupid.

Wraithknight is too over the top for me as well, just like the Imperial Walkers. Those things do *not* belong in a game of 40K. Epic, sure. The madness that is Appocalypse? Fine. Regular 40K? No effing way.

**Ailaros**

I don't flat refuse to use very much, but I'd say the biggest thing for me is that I shy away from units that are popular. Especially ones that people mindlessly fawn over.

Being able to demonstrate to someone that something they thought was bad is, in fact, somewhat decent is much more rewarding than banging my head against the wall trying to convince people with deeds what they will never stop taking as a matter of faith.

Plus, I don't like the idea of being "just another X player who runs Y".

**phantommaster**

Gaunts. Genestealers are just too cool not to use as all the troops.

**SagesStone**

Centurions, they're just fat terminators and look like they have the flexibility of a brick.

**RileyJessup**

Heldrakes they look stupid and anything nurgle as i dont like their concept at all.

**Bobthehero**

Leman Russes, don't need e'm

**ErikSetzer**

For me, it depends on what kind of army I'm playing.

For example, with Chaos Space Marines... In my Iron Warriors, I won't use Marks, and I get annoyed I have to mark a Daemon Prince. I also won't use Possessed, or Raptors or Warp Talons. Iron Warriors are unmarked siege fighters. They're also the only army I'll use a Warpsmith in. Similarly, I won't use a Dark Apostle without it being a Word Bearers force (or at least part of the force). When I rebuild a Nurgle army (the army my dad had was lost to a fire, I wasn't able to recover it, but I still have some of the models), it won't have heavy weapons on the Havocs or basic squads. These are all tied to the fluff.

In my Daemon army, I will never field Khorne and Slaanesh together, or Tzeentch and Nurgle. I'll use, say, Khorne and Tzeentch, or Slaanesh and Tzeentch, or Khorne and Nurgle, or even Slaanesh and Nurgle. But I won't run Daemons from opposing gods alongside each other.

There aren't units that I really hate enough not to use. Mainly, it comes down to what I feel is right in terms of the background of the army I'm playing.

**BrianDavion**

Co'tor Shas wrote:
Riptides, they completely go against all the tau fluff to that point. That and I love crisis suits.

as Tau are where I'm admittingly weak fluff wise, I'm curious how they go against the fluff

**ZultanQ**

Considering that this thread is units you refuse to use, there's not much off the table for me modeling-wise because you can always make a counts-as. Also, I actually like the Heldrake model, what other army in 40k has a giant motherfething dragon? My only complaint is the wings are flat and boring.

I like the cultist models but I really just don't see them fitting into an army. Yes, cultists are fluffy for Chaos, but given that 40k games typically take place on tables that are small sections of ruined cities or plains, it seems kinda weird to only have 10-200 cultists. Maybe I'm wrong, but in the codices and few BL novels I've read, cultists tend to be in huge hoards infesting Chaos-controlled areas. It's odd that a small detachment of a Chaos legion would drag around 10 regular cultist buddies when touching down on, say, an Eldar outpost, since CSM are essentially small detachments of ex-special forces supermen. Why would they need them? I understand that cultists are used as slaves or front lines hordes especially by Word Bearers, but I don't feel that the current game accurately executes the idea well. So I tend to shy away from using cultists. If only our power armor dudes didn't suck for the most part...

**Sigvatr**

Flayed Ones. I mean, really, GW. Really.

**Ratius**

Never use my 2 SW landspeeders for some reason.
Just cant seem to find the right loadout/use for them.

**goblinking201**

Wolf Guard Battle Leader is a name you will never hear on any of my lists, I would rather pay the extra 20ish points for someone with +1 attack, wound, leadership and the like.

**Vector Strike**

These are my most played armies (mostly with proxy; still deciding which to go). I don't really hate the aesthetics of any army, so if I don't use something it's because of its rules.

Tau: Vespids and some Kroot stuff from FW. They're bad. Oh, and the Drone squadron (HS slot) from FW - too expensive for what it does (MORE S5 AP5)

SM: Vanguard Vets. Does little when not-kitted and too expensive when kitted.

Eldar: Howling Banshees. no grenades in an assault unit...

Chaos Daemons: Tzeentch's chariot. Need to park to use its 'long range' weapons. duh. And furies

**sierra 1247**

I never use ratlings, I hate the fluff behind them And the models are gak, taurox is just way too ugly and before now I never took priests. Oh how fun they are now :3

**Shandara**

Soul Grinders.. they have no place in my daemon army!