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Which factions does LoE typically have trouble with and why?
   
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The Conquerer






Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios

No faction has specific trouble with another. The game is balanced to prevent that.

What they can have trouble with depends on the specific list.


For example, 2 common legion lists are Vayl's spell list of doom and the general ranged lists.

Both of these lists can have trouble facing Menoth, for different reasons.

Vayl's list suffers against Menoth lists which are full of spell hate and Purification(So Harbinger, Kreoss1, Kreoss3, the Covenant, etc...)

Ranged Legion can have trouble with any Menoth list containing eFeora(or pFeora but shes not common) because she is immune to fire. Thus meaning melee is the only option for killing her. And lighting anything on fire with eFeora around is a bad idea.


This is why tournaments use multiple lists, to mitigate bad matchups. And introduce the very interesting list chicken scenarios.


Player 1
List A1
List B1

Player 2
List A2
List B2

A1 totally shuts down B2 and both players know this. Player 2 would never drop B2 because he'd pretty much auto-lose outside of poor play.

Player 1 knows this, so he's planning on dropping B1 against the obvious A2 list.

Player 2 could, however, take a gamble and drop B2. Which would leave his opponent on the back foot.


Its a very interesting sub-game in the tournament scene.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/06/16 22:41:24


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Paingiver







typical legion builds have the most trouble with infantry swarms due to lower volume of attacks and centralized power of running more beasts. It is only rarely a game-ending issue but if you see 40 infantry across from your four heavies you better make a plan.

Extreme armor can also be an issue. Colossals with armor buffs can take more effort to destroy than comparable points in heavies. Wraithbane from the naga helps a lot but otherwise legion will cap out at pow 17 scytheans -possibly buffed up to 19 with the right casters.

   
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Deacon




Southern California

Legion is very comfortable against most balanced lists, but when there is a skew, and if your list isn't designed to handle it, we can struggle a bit.

Most of this comes down to list pairings. For example Vayl2 is a balanced list warlock and can take on a lot of the field and also happens to handle infintry spam well enough (using feat and lots of ranged fire to turn the tide in your favor), but she does not do well against dedicated armor, even with angels. Two or even three AP shots against an armor skew list is only maybe going to kill one heavy and maybe ding another if you roll amazing, and in return you lose all of your angels leaving the armor cracking to Ravagores... No bueno. Her hit and run game is strong though so in that case you'd have to outmaneuver your opponent instead of using brute force. Still a game, but not generally her favorite to see across from her.

So generally you could couple her with another list that can take on armor like p/eThags, Abby with Forced evo, pLylyth and even eLylyth with the right build and the BFS, and others with buffs and the right build.

The game is so diverse and deep now with a wide variety of options that I feel that its impossible to plan for everything. Bad matchups are going to happen though from time to time so be prepared and play those matches so you recognize them when they hit the table. Even on a bad matchup you can pull out a win with the right play and a level head.

"The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed." -The Dark Tower Series - The Gunslinger

Legion of Everblight: 351 pts
Minions 128 pts
Mercs: 4 pts  
   
 
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