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Well, I've been posting a fair bit lately, and I thought I'd show my "basic" "Fight anybody" list. This has changed a little (I used to use Big Wormey) But this is my primary list "for now"

HQ: Winged Assassin, Hive (Lash whip/Bone Sword, Toxic) 240
HQ: Winged Dakka'rant, Hive (TL: Brain Leeches x2) 240

Zoey Brood: x2 100
Zoey Brood: Solo 50
Veno Brood: x2 90

Troops: Warrior Brood, x3, Deathspitters x2, Strangle Cannon 110
Troops: Hormagaunts, x15 75
Troops: Spinegaunts, x20 80
Troops: Spinegaunts, x20,+10 Devilgaunts 160
Troops: Tervigon, Hive 205

Heavy: Tyranofex, Adrenal, Hive 200
Heavy; Mawloc 140
Heavy: Mawloc 140

+20 for Hive Commander, should be 1850.


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I like suggesting the "Swarm" box, and adding a few extras, this is a 1000 pointer I jotted down this AM, that has better Synapse than many have...

HQ: Winged Dakka'rant, Hive 240

Elite: Zoey, solo 50
Elite: Veno, solo 45

Troops: Warrior Brood, x3, Strangle Cannon 100
Troops:Warrior Brood, x3, Strangle Cannon 100
Troops: Termigants/Spinegaunts, x20 80
Troops: as above 80
Troops: Hormigaunts, x15

Heavy: Dakkafex, solo 150

Fast attack: Gargoyles, x10, Toxic 80

If I figured that right, it should be 1000. And you should be able to add most anything, without having to modify the base.

So, Swarm Box, Hive Tyrant, two boxes of Warriors, a Zoey, and a Veno....a little pricey, but it can be done in chunks.

Note, you might want to build the second Warrior Brood with a Venom Cannon if you plan on adding in Living Artillery later.

I have a couple of comments for your TAC list:
1) You know that I've never been a big fan of the winged assassin. But with the new rules for 7th, you can't charge the turn you change flight modes. That tyrant will have to spend a whole turn on the ground before being able to charge. I really don't think that it will be able to make it's points back. I would prefer either a dakkarant or a walking tyrant with guard.

2) Elites and troops look good. I prefer to have my venoms spit up so they can be spread across the swarm, but to each their own. I'd rather save the points from the devilguants and instead get another zoan or venom.

This list looks pretty strong. After changing the tyrant, I would feel confident playing against any other TAC list.

 Freytag93 wrote:
I have a couple of comments for your TAC list:
1) You know that I've never been a big fan of the winged assassin. But with the new rules for 7th, you can't charge the turn you change flight modes. That tyrant will have to spend a whole turn on the ground before being able to charge. I really don't think that it will be able to make it's points back. I would prefer either a dakkarant or a walking tyrant with guard.

2) Elites and troops look good. I prefer to have my venoms spit up so they can be spread across the swarm, but to each their own. I'd rather save the points from the devilguants and instead get another zoan or venom.

This list looks pretty strong. After changing the tyrant, I would feel confident playing against any other TAC list.

Yeah, I have not had a chance to see what 7Th has done to my beloved Assassin. I plan on Gliding around the field, I seldom charge anyway...I "join" tarpits and finish units off. I have also had good luck picking off lonely ICs. So much so I seldom have the chance anymore... I normally run the assassin with Hive, and often find 15 more to use Brain Leeches.....a Vector Strike, plus a Template, has always done enough work to justify the unit. Besides I built the dang thing before I started magnitising.

Well, a friend asked me to write him up a list that used multiple (two) Tervigons...when I was done, I found just how much I don't like Tervigon...I use one, but that's because I own one...

Here is a concept list to eleiminate the overpriced Big Momma Bug...

HQ: Winged Assassin,Hive 240
HQ: Winged Dakka'rant, Hive 240

Elite: Zoey: x2 100
Elite: Zoey: x2 (If I 2x CAD, I can solo these all out to double my WC, and get 2 extra Powers!) 100
Elite: Veno Brood, x2 (can also be solo'd if 2x CAD) 90

Troops :Spinegaunts, x20 80
Troops: Spinegaunts, x20 80
Troops: Hormigaunts, x15, Toxic 120 (A might overpriced, but affordable, I may drop to vanilla though) 120 (If I go "vanilla" I'll likely add another whole Brood )
Troops: Warrior Brood, x3, x2 Deathspitters, Strangle Cannon 110

Heavy: Dakkafexen Brood, x2 300
Heavy: Mawloc 140
Heavy: Tyranofex, Adrenal, Hive (All hives are Electro-bugs)

That runs 1800 if I have added right, so Hive Commander +20 (?) and 30 for upgrades..? Or maybe just grab an extra "Thrope?


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Here is the list I did not like, and its modified form...

"Infinite Hunger"

HQ: Tervigon, Hive 205
HQ: Tervigon, Hive 205

Elite: Veno Brood: x2 90
Elite: Veno Brood, x2 90
Elite: Zoey Brood, x2 100

Troops: Termigants, x20 80
Troops: Termigants, x20 80
Troops: Hormigants, x15 75
Troops: Horigants, x14 70
Troops: Warrior Brood, x3, x2 Deathspitters, Cannon 110

Mawloc 140
Mawloc 140

Living Artillery Formation: 390

A "good" list, but helpless vs Fliers... So I suggested dropping both Mawlocs , and taking Two Crones making up the points by trimming Hormigaunts...a "better list, but I still did not "like" it at all..

So I think he'll get good results, but it left me really feeling my dislike for the over the top costing for Momma Bug... It was also hard to suggest that someone should buy a couple of expensive models, just to use other equally "iffy" models.

Well, that's my sad story for the day. What do you think of my modified TAC bugs?

Still trying to make a non comical Stealer list...

HQ: Winged Assassin, Hive 240
HQ: Winged Dakka'rant, Hive 240

Elite: Zoey, x2
Elite: Veno, solo
Elite: Veno, solo

Troops: Stealers, x10 170
Troops: Stealers, x10 170
Troops: Hormagaunts, x 15 75
Troops: Hormagaunts, x15 75
Troops: Warrior Brood, x3, x2 Deathspitters, Cannon 110

I think that runs 1270 all told. Then to get "Threat Overload" how about a Wrecker Node?

"Wrecker Node":
Warrior Brood: x3, Rending Claws x3, Adrenal glands 120 (You might want to toss in Flesh Hooks, just trim a Brood or two down to find 12 points)
Screamer Killer, "expresso" x3, Adrenals, Bioplasma 465?

1270+585= 1855, drop a Hormagaunt, and its done. If you can get "Master of Ambush" (1 in 3 chance) this list can Infiltrate almost the whole army. I figure the Carifexen will mesmerise the foe, letting the Stealers charge intact. With infiltrate, Bioplasma's short range is less of an "issue"

Or you could run a "Bombardment Node" for about the same cost, and use Heavy Strangle Thorn blasts to cover the assault. Master of Ambush still rawks for this version, because you should be able to cover the entire board after infiltrating. ("Gunfexen" Hvy Strangle, Brain Leeches, 155 per)

I dunno, still not convinced that Stealers are a viable choice though...

Was just doodling this AM, over breakfast...

"Infinite Hunger II"

HQ: Tervigon, Hive (Electro-bugs) 205
HQ: Deathleaper 165?

Elite: Veno, x2 90
Elite: Veno, solo
Elite: Zoey, x2 100

Troops: Spinegaunts, x20 80
Troops: Spinegaunts, x20 80
Troops: Hormigaunts, x15 75
Troops: Hormigaunts, x15 75

Heavy; Tyranofex, Adrenal, Thorax Hive (Electro-bugs) 200
Heavy: Mawloc 140 (Deathleapers pet Mawloc ) (Bio-Ninja summoning Jutsu! )

That's ...1220? then just add a Formation..

Living Artillery...390-400...1620
Wrecker Node...510-600
Bio Bombardment 510-600 all "doable" builds, and they should be able to win games... a little short on Synapse though...

pinecone77 wrote:
Still trying to make a non comical Stealer list...

HQ: Winged Assassin, Hive 240
HQ: Winged Dakka'rant, Hive 240

Elite: Zoey, x2
Elite: Veno, solo
Elite: Veno, solo

Troops: Stealers, x10 170
Troops: Stealers, x10 170
Troops: Hormagaunts, x 15 75
Troops: Hormagaunts, x15 75
Troops: Warrior Brood, x3, x2 Deathspitters, Cannon 110

I think that runs 1270 all told. Then to get "Threat Overload" how about a Wrecker Node?

"Wrecker Node":
Warrior Brood: x3, Rending Claws x3, Adrenal glands 120 (You might want to toss in Flesh Hooks, just trim a Brood or two down to find 12 points)
Screamer Killer, "expresso" x3, Adrenals, Bioplasma 465?

1270+585= 1855, drop a Hormagaunt, and its done. If you can get "Master of Ambush" (1 in 3 chance) this list can Infiltrate almost the whole army. I figure the Carifexen will mesmerise the foe, letting the Stealers charge intact. With infiltrate, Bioplasma's short range is less of an "issue"

Or you could run a "Bombardment Node" for about the same cost, and use Heavy Strangle Thorn blasts to cover the assault. Master of Ambush still rawks for this version, because you should be able to cover the entire board after infiltrating. ("Gunfexen" Hvy Strangle, Brain Leeches, 155 per)

I dunno, still not convinced that Stealers are a viable choice though...

I really prefer this one. I think it'd be a lot of fun to play with, and it could probably do decent as a TAC. The only change I would make would be the winged assassin (you know how I feel). But other than that, this list looks good. I love to run some screamer killers.

 Freytag93 wrote:

pinecone77 wrote:
Still trying to make a non comical Stealer list...

HQ: Winged Assassin, Hive 240
HQ: Winged Dakka'rant, Hive 240

Elite: Zoey, x2
Elite: Veno, solo
Elite: Veno, solo

Troops: Stealers, x10 170
Troops: Stealers, x10 170
Troops: Hormagaunts, x 15 75
Troops: Hormagaunts, x15 75
Troops: Warrior Brood, x3, x2 Deathspitters, Cannon 110

I think that runs 1270 all told. Then to get "Threat Overload" how about a Wrecker Node?

"Wrecker Node":
Warrior Brood: x3, Rending Claws x3, Adrenal glands 120 (You might want to toss in Flesh Hooks, just trim a Brood or two down to find 12 points)
Screamer Killer, "expresso" x3, Adrenals, Bioplasma 465?

1270+585= 1855, drop a Hormagaunt, and its done. If you can get "Master of Ambush" (1 in 3 chance) this list can Infiltrate almost the whole army. I figure the Carifexen will mesmerise the foe, letting the Stealers charge intact. With infiltrate, Bioplasma's short range is less of an "issue"

Or you could run a "Bombardment Node" for about the same cost, and use Heavy Strangle Thorn blasts to cover the assault. Master of Ambush still rawks for this version, because you should be able to cover the entire board after infiltrating. ("Gunfexen" Hvy Strangle, Brain Leeches, 155 per)

I dunno, still not convinced that Stealers are a viable choice though...

I really prefer this one. I think it'd be a lot of fun to play with, and it could probably do decent as a TAC. The only change I would make would be the winged assassin (you know how I feel). But other than that, this list looks good. I love to run some screamer killers.

Nice to hear...and I own all this stuff. Maybe the Stealers will get into contact because of all the Big Bugs coming down field. If I get master of Ambush its golden, if not...well maybe what I do get will be good.

Well still figuring out things...this morning over breakfast I worked on my TAC list, but at 1500, a points level I am more comfortable at...

"Horrors of the Hive!"

HQ: Winged Assassin, Hive 240
HQ: Winged Dakka'rant, Hive 240

Elites: Zoey, x2 100
Elites: Zoey, solo
Elites: Veno, solo

Troops: Spinegaunts, x20 80
Troops: Spinegaunts, x20 80
Troops: Hormagaunts, x15 75
Troops: Warrior Brood, x3, x2 Deathspitters, Strangle Cannon 110

Heavy: Tyranofex, Adrenal, Thorax Hive (Electro-bugs) 200
Heavy: Mawloc
Heavy: Mawloc

If I added right, that should be 1500 even

For 1850, I just add a Tervigon, Thorax Hive, and +10 Devilgaunts, plus Hive Commander, and a extra Veno..

Not sure what to do about intermediate games though....??? Maybe turn one Heavy slot into a Carnifex themepark?

If I've messed up someplace, please give me a heads up!