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Had a slight rethink on my 1500 list for my FLGS night, I mentioned before it's a mixed Meta with marines including vanilla, angels of both flavours and grey knights plus some necron, Nid and tau players. Games are picked at random on night so no building a killer list in advance.

This is my current list that I intend to take next week, I can't see any glaring gaps but some extra eyes are always good, this is a very friendly night so not really one for death stars or ridiculous summoning tourney level lists.

HQ

Chaplain with jump pack and bolt pistol

ELITES

Sternguards x 5 in pod, 2 combi melta, 2 combi flame and a heavy flamer. Drop pod

TROOPS

Scouts x 5 snipers with missile launcher, camp cloaks
Scouts x 5 shotguns, combi flamer. Land Speeder storm with heavy flamer
Tacticals x 10, heavy bolter. Combat squads. Razorback with twin linked Lascannons
Tacticals x 10, melta, combi melta. Rhino

FAST ATTACK

Assault squad x 5, flamer, plasma and power sword sgt. Chaplain in this squad
Storm Talon, Sky Hammers
Land Speeder, Typhoon Missiles and Heavy Bolter

HEAVY SUPPORT

Vindicator
Devastators x 5, 4 Missile Launchers

It's a mixed list but for the style of the night, ie not knowing who I will be playing till I turn up I have abilities everywhere, plenty of anti Horde and plenty of anti tank as well.

The only unit I'm unsure on is the Sternies, I know it's not the done thing to mix flame and melta but as I don't know what I might face I figure they can drop and either hit a tank or burn a blob leaving the pod draw fire.

Sat in my shelf I have termies both assault and regular, a couple of captains (one combi plas one combi grav) a bike squad with gravs, attack bike, scouts with bolters, scouts with blades and a powerfist, mixed other Tacticals with heavy weapons and special weapons (one of each choice) and a command squad that I never use as I built it to te box picture and as such it is almost useless. Oh and the bits to run my razor as a rhino if I need to.

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Hong Kong

I think it looks pretty flexible, but maybe could do with a bit more specialization to allow you address certain threats directly?

For example, if you are going to alpha strike with the sternies, you might as well make it worth while - drop one of the other units and max it up to 10 models (2x combat squads) , and fit out with a mix of combi-meltas/combi-gravs (depending on models- I always have to do combi-melta/gravs with mine as I only have two of each....) remember though that IF chapter tactics do nothing for these guys if you are using the special ammo (and why would you not use it?)

For a cheaper alternative, about 155pts will get you an LotD squad with combi-melta/meltagun/multimelta fit out for an deep strike anti-tank unit, or flamer version for anti-infantry (note: if you don't have any LotD models in all their flamey regalia, don't worry - there is nothing in the rules saying they have to be dressed so - as an elite unit in your SM list they can be the same color as your regular guys).

If the intention for the speeder scouts is to assault, I would go for close combat weapons & melta-bombs - 1A, +1 for extra CC weapon, +1 for Charging and can assault straight off the speeder makes this a nasty surprise for some ones mid range units.

Also, no psychic? Deliberate or oversight? I can imagine if your coming up against lots of Eldar/Nids then there might be no point taking a token libby, but at 65 points they are relatively cheap and can add a bit of buff to one of your tactical units (esp. if given term. armour)

Also, heavy bolters - even with the imperial fist chapter tactics, they don't tend to do much. Maybe trade for a ML or PC?

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Upstate, New York

I’d rather see more sternguard with less toys. I’d also not mix regular and heavy flamers in a squad due to the sequential firing rules of 7th. If you want to keep a flexible 5 man squad, I’d go with 2xHF, 3xC-melta

Sniper scouts are fine (although I like a HB here). I like shotgun scouts for anyone but ‘Fists. You have bolter drill, they have BS3 and need it the most. While shotguns are the versatile, I’d either focus on the drive-by (bolters) or the charge (BP/CCW). I’d go for the bolters, as I think you’ll get the most milage out of them.

Your tac squads have me confused. You plan on CSing the HB squad? So 5 normal guys move up and the HB stays back? Combat squadding lets you play to the strengths of your special and heavy weapons, at the cost of your bolters. You have no special, not gear on the sarge, and the HB is nothing to write home about. I’d either run the whole squad up in a rhino (possibly adding a flamer/c-flamer) or throw a plasma gunner /c-plas sarge into the razor, and swap the HB for something with teeth (like a PC/LC)

Just swapping the rides for your tac squads would help a lot. But give the melta squad a heavy to sit at home while the melta rushes forward would be best.

Plasma pistols are overpriced, but can work. I like the assault squad overall. Is the sarge a vet? if not, try to scrape up 10 points for that.

I get a lot of milage out of my skyhammer talon. While there are times I wished I shelled out the points for the LCs, most of the time I’m happy with the hammers.

TML/HB speeders are good.

I’m less enamored with MLs then I used to be, but they can still work well. Your HS picks should get some nice fire downrange.

Overall I like the structure of your list. You might be a tad troop heavy, but that can be a good thing sometimes.

   
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I tried a little section of this list (1250 pts of it) in a friendly against my local Tau playing brother and decided the HB is ultimately pointless, I will try to get points for a LC or ML instead in there, it didn't work as I wanted it to and just ended up either wasting the other 4 bolter boys by being too far away or having a paltry extra 4 shots, at least with a LC I can accept the loss of 4 boltgun shots if the LC is hitting a tank or big target!

I think I will probably drop some sternie combi flamers, the heavy flamer is going to stay as a just in case (love the overwatch if someone decides they really want them dead!) to put a LC on the tacs and add a flamer or plasma to the 5 pushing forward in the Lasback for a bit more bite there. I might even have enough to dump a combi plas on the sgt as well.

Libby being left out is partially deliberate, since my first ever marine army in 3rd ed I have never owned a pysker, always disliked them on a fluff level and despite knowing their battlefield strengths not bothered with one, sadly however the way the game is going I think I might need to swallow the medicine and take one soon.

The Shotty scouts... well I love them to bits! They were my first buy when I started playing again in 6th and have always been more effective than my CC ones who now gather dust on the shelf, I am 99.9% sure that is just lucky dice but I am going to stick with them, the 8 shots out of the top of the storm has come in handy from time to time as well.

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With the previous comments in mind I have made a couple of swaps.

Dropped the sternie combi flamers, brought a las cannon instead of the heavy bolter plus added a flamer for the 5 going forward in the lasback.

Vet sgt in assault squad
Heavy bolter instead of missile in sniper squad

HQ

Chaplain with jump pack and bolt pistol

ELITES

Sternguards x 5 in pod, 2 combi melta, and a heavy flamer. Drop pod

TROOPS

Scouts x 5 snipers with heavy bolter, camp cloaks
Scouts x 5 shotguns, combi flamer. Land Speeder storm with heavy flamer
Tacticals x 10, Lascannon, flamer. Combat squads. Razorback with twin linked Lascannons
Tacticals x 10, melta, combi melta. Rhino

FAST ATTACK

Assault squad x 5, flamer, plasma and power sword veteran sgt. Chaplain in this squad
Storm Talon, Sky Hammers
Land Speeder, Typhoon Missiles and Heavy Bolter

HEAVY SUPPORT

Vindicator
Devastators x 5, 3 Missile Launchers, 1 Plasma Cannon


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1000 Points - Right Hands of the Emperor Elite PDF force
Bolt Action 1500 pts US Army
Bolt Action 1000 pts US Airborne
X Wing - Giant rebel fleet
Halo Fleet Battles - 1000 pt UNSC Force, 1000 pt Covenant Force

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Used this against 1500 list of drop spam wolves today, drew on vps but tabled the entire army less one thunder wolf and a drop pod for the loss of my Typoon, drop pod, sternies and razorback.

Very happy with it

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1000 Points - Right Hands of the Emperor Elite PDF force
Bolt Action 1500 pts US Army
Bolt Action 1000 pts US Airborne
X Wing - Giant rebel fleet
Halo Fleet Battles - 1000 pt UNSC Force, 1000 pt Covenant Force

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Upstate, New York

Looks like a nice list, glad it’s working out for you.

   
 
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