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2014/08/22 00:25:44
Subject: [2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Regular Dakkanaut
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With the new codex pretty much out there, thought I'd try making a list with what essentially many of us have deemed the few good units left so: Dread Knights, Dragio, Librarians, Terminators. Some of
the points maybe off a bit or I might be getting some rules wrong, in which case please out thanks.
Having draigo on the field with a librarian and paladins to man an aegis line equipped with a comms relay for the 1st turn Deep striking formation, then they use gate of infinity to get to the front lines with the other Deep strikers.
The librarian has the Domina liber Daemonica relic for an extra roll on sanctic, which I'm hoping gets either vortex or sanctuary. I'm thinking having him roll his other 3 MLs on either telepathy for invisibility or divination.
LoW- Dragio -245
HQ- Librarian - 165 - Hammer, ML3, Domina Liber Daemonica
Troops-
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer - 195
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer - 195
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer - 195
Elites- Paladins x3 - Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 2x Halberds- 199
Fast Attack- Interceptors x10 (combat squaded) - 2x Incinerators, 2x Hammers - 280
Heavy Support-
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Gatling Psilencer, Greatsword - 225
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Gatling Psilencer, Greatsword - 225
Fortification- Aegis line, comms relay- 70
Total- 1994
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/08/22 00:29:01
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2014/08/22 04:01:14
Subject: [2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Member of the Malleus
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Do the new paladins still need 5 to take a special weapon?
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I make bad decisions and think they are good.
Team No Bueno
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2014/08/22 04:10:48
Subject: [2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I think your right, I'll fix that. Will have to add two more paladins, probably have to do a lot of readjusting.
Automatically Appended Next Post: LoW- Dragio -245
HQ- Librarian - 165 - Hammer, ML3, Domina Liber Daemonica
Troops-
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 4x Falchions - 211
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 4x Falchions - 211
Elites- Paladins x5 - 2x Psycannons, 1x Hammer, 4x Halberds, apothecary- 353
Fast Attack- Interceptors x10 (combat squaded) - 2x Incinerators, 2x hammers - 280
Heavy Support-
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Gatling Psilencer, Greatsword - 225
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Gatling Psilencer, Greatsword - 225
Fortification- Aegis line, comms relay- 70
TOTAL - 1985
I have a spare 15 points. Not sure if I should go Psilencers or heavy psycannons for the NDKs.
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2014/08/22 16:34:46
Subject: [2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Had some great success with the Heavy Psycannons so far. I would recommend picking up a Teleport Homer and putting it on the interceptor sergeant. That way whatever doesn't come in turn 1 can come in turn 2 without any scatter after you shunt Turn 1 with the Interceptors.
Just to add about the psilencers, I think they are great if you know what army your opponent is playing or units they are running but I hate tailoring lists to specific armies.
When it comes down to it, I feel the Heavy Psycannons are better take on all lists.
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2014/08/22 19:10:28
Subject: [2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Regular Dakkanaut
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exploited751 wrote:Had some great success with the Heavy Psycannons so far. I would recommend picking up a Teleport Homer and putting it on the interceptor sergeant. That way whatever doesn't come in turn 1 can come in turn 2 without any scatter after you shunt Turn 1 with the Interceptors.
Just to add about the psilencers, I think they are great if you know what army your opponent is playing or units they are running but I hate tailoring lists to specific armies.
When it comes down to it, I feel the Heavy Psycannons are better take on all lists.
sounds good, and yeah i don't really like tailoring anything to one army so I think the psycannons are the better option overall. Thinking about rolling 3 times on divination over telepathy just because of the overall better table. I was also debating just rolling 4 times on sanctic, but i think its too much overlap with all the powers the paladins and draigo already have.
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2014/08/24 00:03:12
Subject: Re:[2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Was wondering what people think of this list. I want to use GK draigo purely cause I put a lot of effort into my model's paint job haha, and I thought using 2 librarians to ensure his unit gets all the powers he needs so sanctuary and forewarning. I'm pretty sure I'm putting too many eggs in 1 basket though.
LoW- Dragio -245
HQ-
Librarian - 165 - Hammer, ML3, Domina Liber Daemonica
Librarian hammer ML3 - 140
Troops-
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 4x Falchions - 211
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 4x Falchions - 211
Elites- Paladins x5 - 2x Psycannons, 1x Hammer, 4x Halberds, apothecary- 353
Fast Attack- Interceptors x5 - 1x Incinerators- 135
Heavy Support-
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Heavy psycanon, Greatsword - 230
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Heavy psycanon, Greatsword - 230
Fortification- Aegis line, comms relay- 70
TOTAL - 1995
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2014/08/24 03:00:56
Subject: Re:[2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Member of the Malleus
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akwing00 wrote:Was wondering what people think of this list. I want to use GK draigo purely cause I put a lot of effort into my model's paint job haha, and I thought using 2 librarians to ensure his unit gets all the powers he needs so sanctuary and forewarning. I'm pretty sure I'm putting too many eggs in 1 basket though.
LoW- Dragio -245
HQ-
Librarian - 165 - Hammer, ML3, Domina Liber Daemonica
Librarian hammer ML3 - 140
Troops-
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 4x Falchions - 211
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 4x Falchions - 211
Elites- Paladins x5 - 2x Psycannons, 1x Hammer, 4x Halberds, apothecary- 353
Fast Attack- Interceptors x5 - 1x Incinerators- 135
Heavy Support-
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Heavy psycanon, Greatsword - 230
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Heavy psycanon, Greatsword - 230
Fortification- Aegis line, comms relay- 70
TOTAL - 1995
I would say keep the staves on the libbys. It already gives +2 strength (if I remember correctly dex not near me) and then have a squad cast hammerhand. Plus ward ability is super useful due to 7th being psyker heavy.
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I make bad decisions and think they are good.
Team No Bueno
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2014/08/24 23:54:07
Subject: Re:[2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Regular Dakkanaut
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FinkleLord wrote: akwing00 wrote:Was wondering what people think of this list. I want to use GK draigo purely cause I put a lot of effort into my model's paint job haha, and I thought using 2 librarians to ensure his unit gets all the powers he needs so sanctuary and forewarning. I'm pretty sure I'm putting too many eggs in 1 basket though.
LoW- Dragio -245
HQ-
Librarian - 165 - Hammer, ML3, Domina Liber Daemonica
Librarian hammer ML3 - 140
Troops-
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 4x Falchions - 211
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 4x Falchions - 211
Elites- Paladins x5 - 2x Psycannons, 1x Hammer, 4x Halberds, apothecary- 353
Fast Attack- Interceptors x5 - 1x Incinerators- 135
Heavy Support-
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Heavy psycanon, Greatsword - 230
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Heavy psycanon, Greatsword - 230
Fortification- Aegis line, comms relay- 70
TOTAL - 1995
I would say keep the staves on the libbys. It already gives +2 strength (if I remember correctly dex not near me) and then have a squad cast hammerhand. Plus ward ability is super useful due to 7th being psyker heavy.
sure, I could drop the staves, thats 10 extra points. Might throw a hammer in the interceptor squad
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2014/08/25 00:04:46
Subject: Re:[2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Agile Revenant Titan
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akwing00 wrote: FinkleLord wrote: akwing00 wrote:Was wondering what people think of this list. I want to use GK draigo purely cause I put a lot of effort into my model's paint job haha, and I thought using 2 librarians to ensure his unit gets all the powers he needs so sanctuary and forewarning. I'm pretty sure I'm putting too many eggs in 1 basket though.
LoW- Dragio -245
HQ-
Librarian - 165 - Hammer, ML3, Domina Liber Daemonica
Librarian hammer ML3 - 140
Troops-
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 4x Falchions - 211
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 4x Falchions - 211
Elites- Paladins x5 - 2x Psycannons, 1x Hammer, 4x Halberds, apothecary- 353
Fast Attack- Interceptors x5 - 1x Incinerators- 135
Heavy Support-
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Heavy psycanon, Greatsword - 230
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Heavy psycanon, Greatsword - 230
Fortification- Aegis line, comms relay- 70
TOTAL - 1995
I would say keep the staves on the libbys. It already gives +2 strength (if I remember correctly dex not near me) and then have a squad cast hammerhand. Plus ward ability is super useful due to 7th being psyker heavy.
sure, I could drop the staves, thats 10 extra points. Might throw a hammer in the interceptor squad
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2014/08/25 00:11:36
Subject: [2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Regular Dakkanaut
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sorry i meant drop the hammers and keep the staves
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2014/08/25 00:42:03
Subject: Re:[2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Staves are great for the S and the boost to psychic D, like the NDK's I need a pair of those for sure!
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2014/08/25 00:46:52
Subject: Re:[2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Regular Dakkanaut
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BladeWalker wrote:Staves are great for the S and the boost to psychic D, like the NDK's I need a pair of those for sure!
Yeah i originally dropped them for more AP2, but i think draigo and 1 hammer paladin should be enough. Anyone think it would be worth it for a brotherhood banner in the paladin unit?
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2014/08/26 04:09:08
Subject: [2000] - Grey Knights - New Grey Knights- Nemesis Strike Formation
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I had a game today with the updated list against Astras militarum and won. I had the first turn so i had the interceptors man the aegis, and everything came in 1st turn. Dragio and paladins in front of a pretty heavily bubble wrapped area of tanks.
the normal librarian rolled and got invisibility early so I switched and got prescience from divination. The relic librarian rolled all on sanctic and got everything but vortex and purge soul.
Draigo was just a monster along with the Knights. I Deep striked the Terminators 24 inches away from most of the enemy units for the psycannons then using the formation ran back to spread out and get out of demolisher cannon range.
The only thing lacking was solid or reliable Anti armor so I'm going to try this next time i get a chance.
LoW- Dragio -245
HQ-
Librarian - 165 - Hammer, ML3, Domina Liber Daemonica
Librarian hammer ML3 - 140
Troops-
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 4x force swords - 195
Terminators x5- Psycannon, 1x Hammer, 4x force swords - 195
Elites- Paladins x5 - 2x Psycannons, 1x Hammer, 4x Force Swords, apothecary- 345
Fast Attack- Storm Raven- TL multi-melta, TL lascannon-200
Heavy Support-
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Heavy psycanon, Greatsword - 225
NDK - Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Heavy psycanon, Greatsword - 225
Fortification- Aegis line, comms relay- 70
TOTAL - 1995
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