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k so this is my first list for VC i have some units and i have the army book

anyway i need halls help with this list any suggestions are helpful but i built this list with two requirements
1. No Terrorgheists (i think they are cheesy)
2. No custom vampire's (they don't make any models i like so ehhh)

so there is the list

Count Mannfred

Krell lord of death

3x30 skeletons (Mannfred in one of these or zombies)
-Full command
-Spears

40 zombies

2x5 Hexwraiths (or a unit of ten unsure where to go here)

24 Grave Guard (Krell here)
-Full command
-Great Weapons
-Banner of the Barrows

4 Vargheists

5 Cairn Wraiths (this is for fun and because i wanted to try them)


any helpful suggestions welcome please reply!!!


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great ok................

Fell Bats might be one of the best units in the game. 32 points to block an opponent is really good.
If you like Cairn Wraiths, I'd go with 4 as heroes rather than 5 as a unit.
If you stick 2 wraiths in each skeleton block, suddenly those skeletons become a threat. Spilt the 3rd block to beef up the first 2. For the same points, you get 2 units of 48 with full command (with wraiths, it's a 50 strong block).
Krell... cool fluff, but he isn't really needed. Instead of taking Krell, add 16 more graveguard to the unit. A block of 40 without krell is a lot more scary than a block of 24 with him.

That would give you 2 units of 50 skeletons (with 2 wraiths in each), 40 grave guard with great weapons, and hexwraiths/vargheists to hold the flanks. Manfred safely bunkered in zombies behind the rest.

Thanks for your comment I'll definitely try the combination you said again thanks!