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so I made another list for my upcoming tournament and I was hoping you guys could give me some feedback rounding out my list and giving me some ideas on how to use it. C&C welcome.

HQ

captain
artificer
jump pack
lightning claws
combi-melta
150

libby
level two
90

TROOPS

scouts
4×snipers
hb
hellfire shells
camo
82

scouts
4×snipers
ml
camo
84

tac marines ×10
plasma
plasma cannon
165

rhino dt
35

ELITES

vanguard vets
jump packs
5×melta bombs
5×power weapons
3×ss
plasma
255

FAST ATTACK
4×bikes
2×melta
combi melta
114


HEAVY SUPPORT

stormraven
tllc
tlmm
200

pred
tllc
hb
120

vindi
125

1497

I think some of your point values are off.
Lvl 2 librarian is 90
Scouts with heavy bolter + camo cloaks + 4 snipers is 77
I'm pretty sure.
But i don't have my codex with me

yukondal wrote:
I think some of your point values are off.
Lvl 2 librarian is 90
Scouts with heavy bolter + camo cloaks + 4 snipers is 77
I'm pretty sure.
But i don't have my codex with me

amended

I would say your scouts are getting expensive for what are essentially ObSec sitters. Maybe strip them down to just bolters & camo cloaks and hope nobody notices them until turn 5?

IMHO, Raven Guard re all about assault - I would drop the bike squad in favour of more assault troops and make the most of the RG:CT. Take the PC out of your TAC and replace it with something non blast, unless you are planning on them standing still all game. And only one/two meltabomb in the vanguard unit - you are probably only going to have one crack at it per game, so save the points and spend elsewhere

Also, give your captain either two claws or a meltacombi, not both. Personally, I would tool him up for assault and put in with one of the vanguard/assault squads.

It may not be massively competitive, but it would be fun to play.

I am playing meal storm for the tournament so hence why my scouts are getting buffed up as they will be denying ground all game

however I'm worried about replacing the bikes as they are really the only anti tank available that can keep up with the vanguard vetd

Ok. Um. What is meal storm exactly?


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Wait - Maelstrom?


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If so, I don't see you scouts denying ground to anything much without going to ground for the max cover save, in which case you might as well skip all the expensive guns as you'll be snap shooting them most of the game. And if anything too big comes along, you'd be better of charging it and trying to krak grenade whatever it is to death.


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Also, for maelstrom I find speeders quite good value - they jink, which makes them surprisingly survivable, and can move up to 12" and still fire two weapons / 18" flat out , allowing you to whizz around grabbing objectives.

with the camo cloaks and ravemguard tactics its a 5+ cover base with a 2+ in runs, throw in conqueror of cities and these guys are as durable as termys.

I like the idea of the ls though. I used to use them often with my da so I might try out a lss.


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sorry about the meal storm, auto correct


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and I know I will be facing both wraithknights and nids hence the sniper rifles, plus they make cheap drop pod fodder