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2014/10/17 18:22:24
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A Nurgle Themed Army
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Snivelling Workbot
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So I've been out of the game for awhile and this is the first list I've come up with since coming back and would like some feedback on the feasibility of it.
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Chaos Lord (Gen)
MoN, Filth Mace, Dragonhelm, Talisman of Preservation, Soul Feeder, Flaming Breath, Barded Chaos Steed
369pts
Heroes
Exalted Hero (BSB)
MoN, shield, Sword of Striking, Talisman of Endurance, Scaled Skin
213pts
Chaos Sorcerer
Lv.2, MoN, Enchanted Shield, Dispel Scroll
185pts
Core
Chaos Warriors x 20
MoN, Mus, Standard, Halberds, Shields, Banner of Swiftness
435pts
Chaos Warriors x 20
MoN, Mus, Standard, Shields, Banner of Eternal Flame
370pts
Warhounds
Vanguard
40pts
Special
Gorebeast Chariot
MoN
140pts
Chaos Knights x 6
MoN, Mus, Standard, Ensorcelled Weapons, War banner
325pts
Rare
Hellcannon
210pts
Hellcannon
210pts
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2014/10/17 20:06:11
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A Nurgle Themed Army
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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Not bad at all, pretty balanced Warriors of Nurgle list with just the double 'cannons pushing the envelope - but counter-balanced by low magic and other less optimal choices (lord and more than a single warrior block). So I approve heartily The one thing I would reevaluate is the lord's gear. Mr.Nafi wrote:Chaos Lord ( Gen) MoN, Filth Mace, Dragonhelm, Talisman of Preservation, Soul Feeder, Flaming Breath, Barded Chaos Steed 369pts
Filth Mace has been pretty lackluster for at least a couple editions now, and honestly I'd probably just go with a great weapon on this dude, with the poison gift if you really want the poison. You've got a magic weapon on the BSB, magic weapons on the knights, and the heckcannons I think are magic too, so plenty of anti-ethereal support. Leave the S5 to the knights / warriors and let the lord get his lumberjack on! I'd also dump the knight's Warbanner in favor of another pack of dogs (with or without vanguard depending on the points). +1CR is fairly unimportant on a unit that will likely be winning combat often but having to grind through enemy steadfast, which couldn't care less about that extra pip of CR. If you keep a banner on the knights, how about Discipline? LD10 for everyone around the lord is pretty groovy (and I think you'll still have doge points after dropping the Mace down). - Salvage
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/10/17 20:08:01
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2014/10/17 20:34:35
Subject: Re:[2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A Nurgle Themed Army
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Snivelling Workbot
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Alright, I dropped mace for the GW and an iron curse icon and swapped the war banner for discipline which left me with exactly enough points for another vanguard warhound unit
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/10/17 20:41:56
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2014/10/17 21:29:05
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A Nurgle Themed Army
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Drakhun
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I'd also swap the filth mace for a halberd or great weapon. It also helps against elves in challenges, in case they are carrying the Dragon banner.
Might also be worth giving the knights a champion, so your Lord can wail on the rank and file instead of crushing a unit champion.
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DS:90-S+G+++M++B-IPw40k03+D+A++/fWD-R++T(T)DM+
Warmachine MKIII record 39W/0D/6L
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2014/10/18 00:01:23
Subject: Re:[2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A Nurgle Themed Army
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Snivelling Workbot
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I'd have to drop vanguard on one of the warhounds for the champ but that's not a deal breaker.
Okay thanks to the advice from you fine folks the list now looks like this.
Lords
Chaos Lord (Gen)
MoN, GW, dragon helm, talisman of preservation, ironcurse icon, soul feeder, flaming breath, bared chaos steed
352pts
Heroes
Exalted Hero (BSB)
MoN, shield, sword of striking, talisman of endurance, scaled skin
213pts
Chaos Sorcerer
Lv2, MoN, Enchanted Shield, Dispel scroll
185pts
Core
Warriors X 20
MoN, mus, standard, shields, banner of eternal flames
370pts
Warriors X 20
MoN, mus, standard, halbards, shields, banner of swiftness
435pts
Warhounds
vanguard
40pts
Warhounds
30pts
Special
Gorebeast Chariot
MoN
140pts
Chaos Knights X 6
MoN, FC, ensorcelled weapons, banner of discipline
315pts
Rare
Hellcannon
210pts
Hellcannon
210pts
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/10/18 03:50:02
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2014/10/19 19:08:46
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A Nurgle Themed Army
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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In the first list your lord is just 6 points less than Twiceborn. There is no way your Chaos lord is near Twiceborn's level. So I would drop him for the big guy or if you can find the points Deamonspew is even better (heck he's better than the 1+ Prince).
I don't like Halberds and Shields on warriors makes an already expensive unit too costly.
I prefer Dawnstone on a 1+ guy over the 5++ as it generally works out better and is cheaper. It means he just swallows S4 attacks with impunity.
For me Blightkings are vastely superior to Knights and are cheaper though that leaves you with a lack of speed. But you've over spent in Core which is costing you here.
Double Cannon is good and different.
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2014/10/19 20:20:20
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A Nurgle Themed Army
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Evasive Eshin Assassin
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Shields on Warriors:
Against S6 and less missile fire, you're taking 16% less wounds. That means the shields pay for themselves after around 6 armour saves.
When you're spending that many points on one model, +1pt for +1 armour, even just against shooting, is a good idea.
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2014/10/21 04:15:46
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A Nurgle Themed Army
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Snivelling Workbot
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FlingitNow wrote:In the first list your lord is just 6 points less than Twiceborn. There is no way your Chaos lord is near Twiceborn's level. So I would drop him for the big guy or if you can find the points Deamonspew is even better (heck he's better than the 1+ Prince).
I don't like Halberds and Shields on warriors makes an already expensive unit too costly.
I prefer Dawnstone on a 1+ guy over the 5++ as it generally works out better and is cheaper. It means he just swallows S4 attacks with impunity.
For me Blightkings are vastely superior to Knights and are cheaper though that leaves you with a lack of speed. But you've over spent in Core which is costing you here.
Double Cannon is good and different.
I guess I should have specified that I'm not running an End Times list this is just regular WHFB hence the lack of said character and Blightkings and I'll see about the usability of the dawnstone in my area as magic tends to be prevalent I like the ward save to give me some sort of defense against things that might get through
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2014/10/21 12:06:36
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A Nurgle Themed Army
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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You don't need to be playing End Times to use the Characters though.
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