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This list is basically IOB + an Abomination. Let me know what you think!




Skaven List

20 Clanrats
Full command
Spears
Shields
Mortar team
Total 185

20 Clanrats
Full Command
Shields
Thrower team
Total 180

Rat Ogres
Master Moulder
Master bred
Shock prod
Total 148

Warlord
Halberd
Tail Weapon
Foul Pendant
Portents of Verminous Doom
Total 151

Warlock Engineer
Level 1
Warplock Pistol
Biting Blade
Talisman of Endurance
Total 100

Hell Pit Abomination
Total 235

Grand Total 999

The idea is just to throw the HPA at one flank and the rest of the army at the other flank. Watch the heads roll.

Oh if anything seems off its because I'm just going by the army book, no idea about the FAQs, haven't looked yet lol! Plus I hear I need a printer for the Skaven fixes...

   
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My recommendations:

1. Maximize your bodies
2. Simplify your characters

For the first point, I mostly mean you really need more clanrats in those units to have them do anything - and what they're doing is hoping to hold up enemy units until the Hellpit can tear faces off. Because let's be honest here, you're taking an HPA in 1000 points, a beast that is brutally efficient no matter the points, but especially when the opponent doesn't necessarily have the tools to deal with them!

Anyway, I'd say take that ridiculously expensive - and pretty terrible - rat ogre unit and use the models for other things. Stick the rat ogres into the clanrats as unit fillers, bumping both units to 24 rats. Then take the packmaster and either use him as a warlock and convert the warlock into a Chieftain BSB, or convert the packmaster straight up into a BSB (slice off the warlod's back flag, glue/sculpt onto the packmaster, cut the head off the packmaster's shock prod and add sword blade for an insta-halberd).

Since we've basically moved onto the characters, let's get to point two. Your characters don't need to have all their various weird options represented - like the pistol on the warlock that he's likely never firing. Instead, I'd invest in some survival tools for the warlord + BSB, and amp up the warlock's casting powers - it's what he's there for, so focus on it. You want at least two spells to have a casting phase, so level 2 is auto, and I'd say condenser to make his warp lightning really hurt (and magic missiles are great in low points especially). How to keep this guy alive? Bail out of a unit when things get dicey and run free! Or accept his inevitable and imminent ratty demise

Here's a sample list from me that does the above:

Warlord - talisman of preservation, halberd = 138
Warlock Engineer - level 2, warp-energy condenser = 120
Chieftain - BSB, talisman of endurance, halberd = 102
24 Clanrats - full command, spears, shields, mortar = 205
24 Clanrats - full command, shields, thrower = 198
Hell Pit Abomination = 235
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998

Warlord is rocking a 5/4+ save and a S5 beating stick, BSB has a 5/5+ save and another S5 beating stick. Warlock is a level 2, has a chance to generate more power dice, and has a brutal magic missile to default to. And a strong desire to never be in combat.

Clanrats both got a little bigger, gaining a rank when the warlord joins one and BSB joins another. Ranks = a Skavenses' friend. Weapon teams are there to do whatever they do for you (mortar is awesome, thrower less so for me), HPA still a pimp.

Aside: for future reference, spears are not particularly great on clanrats, you'll want to use just shields as you bulk them out. Actually, I'd suggest using stormvermin + slaves myself, ain't got time for clanrats

- Salvage

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Made in ca
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Canada

That is actually the best advice I've had so far concerning lists. You are right, the Rat Ogres would be better as unit filler, I'm surprised I didn't think of that myself! Lol

However, looking at unit allotment... Isn't your list a few points or so over the Lords and Heroes cap? Like, a hundred. Lol missed the hundred point BsB!!

I do like your idea about the rat ogres, I'll go home and see what I can come up with!


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Also, I should point out that the reason I decided on a HPA is that it effectively finishes the army to a playable level. I kind of knew the HPA would be a bit much, but I'm hoping a brutally tough list will help my wife get inspired to play them! Lol

She hates how the game can be so slow sometimes, I figure give her a big nasty toy to play with, maybe watching it eat High Elves by the dozen will inspire her to let me buy more rats?

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Albany, NY

darkcloak wrote:
However, looking at unit allotment... Isn't your list a few points or so over the Lords and Heroes cap? Like, a hundred. Lol missed the hundred point BsB!!
Things have changed with the End Times: Lords and Heroes have been increased from 25% to 50% each in all games, ET or otherwise.
She hates how the game can be so slow sometimes, I figure give her a big nasty toy to play with, maybe watching it eat High Elves by the dozen will inspire her to let me buy more rats?
Smart

- Salvage

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Lol, what? How am I supposed to use EoT unit allotment without having the book? Is that a problem that will crop up during games or can I just use the main rule book?

I think I'll just stick with what the main rule book says. Mind you this whole list will probably be invalid by the end of next month...




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The ET hero caps were errata'd into the BRB FAQ

- Salvage

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Canada

Ah, I see. Well then. Might as well rewrite my high elf list too! Lol



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