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2015/03/28 06:29:04
Subject: what hordes army has the most debuffs
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Preceptor
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what hordes army has the most debuffs
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2015/03/28 07:03:59
Subject: what hordes army has the most debuffs
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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Warlocks only? Animi included? Across the whole army?
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2015/03/28 07:08:12
Subject: Re:what hordes army has the most debuffs
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Preceptor
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Across the whole army
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/03/28 07:08:26
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2015/03/28 07:29:03
Subject: what hordes army has the most debuffs
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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Oh...hard to say. Circle maybe? Although now that I think about it they have a lot of denial-debuff crossover. They can deny spells, which debuffs a warcaster really but is technically denial I guess, if that makes sense.
Curse of shadows bouncing around, pathfinder removal, forest creation (sort of a debuff if applied right I guess), muzzle, windblast, stormwall, bestial, pillars of salt, purification, sunder spirit
And those are just on the warlocks, I'm sure the units/beasts/solos have more. Hope that helps.
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2015/03/28 16:20:50
Subject: Re:what hordes army has the most debuffs
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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None of the hordes factions really have much in the way of offensive debuffing.
Each faction has some offensive debuffs, but none of them really focus on it. Maybe the closest would be the Grimms in Trolls.
If you want a real debuff faction its Cryx on the war machine side.
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2015/03/28 16:22:49
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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Skorne under dominar rasheth has a fair amount of debuff power.
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2015/03/28 18:49:38
Subject: Re:what hordes army has the most debuffs
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Satyxis Raider
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Yeah, Cryx is really the big debuff faction. And the Dennys are probably the biggest debuff casters. Their feats and spell lists revolve around debuffs. And bane thralls are possibly one of the best (or at maybe most popular?) debuffing units in the game.
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2015/04/22 01:27:09
Subject: what hordes army has the most debuffs
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Skorne. They have a lot of support units, warlocks, and even beast that specialize in debuff, and negation effects.
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2015/04/22 03:06:48
Subject: Re:what hordes army has the most debuffs
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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None of those items are really true debuffs though. Its still very much support orientated.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2015/04/22 10:00:02
Subject: what hordes army has the most debuffs
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Well you're kinda right. I get Skornes denial play style confused with debuff (which mentally for me is the same thing). But Skorne does have some "debuff" models. Agonizer can lower Warbeast strength by 2, or the Kreas spiritual paralysis lowers models defense to 7.
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2015/04/22 10:30:20
Subject: what hordes army has the most debuffs
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Combat Jumping Ragik
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2015/04/22 13:43:29
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Praetorian
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Nobody mentioned Legion? Many Enemy Upkeep spells across more Warlocks. All their beasts having eyeless sight could be considered an "debuff", denying stealth, forests, and clouds to hide behind. Vayl2 with purification and icy grip and her feat allowing you to cast all of her spells w/o spending fury.
But it all depends on your definition of debuff.
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2015/04/22 16:04:13
Subject: Re:what hordes army has the most debuffs
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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That's not a debuff.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2015/04/22 22:34:52
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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Yeah, a debuff would be something that targets the enemy and debilitates them in some manner. This can be either penalties to stats or rolls or in someway prevents normal actions from m being taken.
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2015/04/26 08:38:09
Subject: what hordes army has the most debuffs
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cryx is #1
Skorne is probably #2
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6+ = 6/36 | Reroll 1s = 7/36 | Reroll Misses = 11/36 ||||||| 5+ = 12/36 | Reroll 1s 14/36 | Reroll Misses = 20/36 ||||||| 4+ = 18/36 | Reroll 1s 21/36 | Reroll Misses = 27/36
3+ = 24/36 | Reroll 1s 28/36 | Reroll Misses = 32/36 ||||||| 2+ = 30/36 | Reroll 1s 35/36 ||||||| Highest of 2d6 = 4.47 |
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2015/04/26 08:55:48
Subject: what hordes army has the most debuffs
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Killer Klaivex
The dark behind the eyes.
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That's a funny-looking Horde army...
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