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Okay, I just started playing Warriors of chaos and wanted to play a 2000 point Khorne themed army. I wanted it to be primarily Warriors and knights with a mounted lord and a hell cannon. I'm open to the idea of a sorcerer for dispelling.

What would you recommend?

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Jurassicorn wrote:
Okay, I just started playing Warriors of chaos and wanted to play a 2000 point Khorne themed army. I wanted it to be primarily Warriors and knights with a mounted lord and a hell cannon. I'm open to the idea of a sorcerer for dispelling.

What would you recommend?

I'm in! Here's my shot at your sketch above:

Chaos Lord - MoK, ogre blade, talisman of preservation, charmed shield, barded daemonic mount

Chaos Sorcerer - level 1 (???), dispel scroll, enchanted shield
Exalted Hero - MoK, BSB, scaled skin, dawnstone, shield

18 Warriors - full command, halberds, shields
18 Warriors - full command, halberds, shields
5 Warhounds
5 Warhounds

8 Knights - MoK, standard, musician, ensorcelled
Hellcannon

Have not tried approximating the points, but I feel like it's around 2000? If it's significantly under, I'd try to invest in another level for the sorcerer, because without it he's only casting whatever spell he rolled up on IF. Possibly worth it depending on the spell, but generally not.

Anyway, there's your beatdown lord ready to ride with his beatdown posse of knights, two packs of murder infantry, some dogs to keep them company, characters to keep them alive / in control / not embarrassingly breaking from fluffed combats, and a hellcannon. For skullacious victory.

- Salvage

Thanks for the help.

I did the math and the army comes out to 2093 points.

This the army I came up with while waiting for a response. It comes out to 1993 points.

Chaos Lord - MoK, barded deamon mount, sword of bloodshed, soul feeder, shield, Dawnstone. 365

Exalted Hero - MoK, BS, scaled skin, dawnstone, shield 193

Chaos Sorcerer - level 1, dispel scroll, enchanted shield 140

Chaos knights - 9 men, banner bearer, fire banner, musician, enscroled wepons. 435

2 units of Chaos warriors - 10 men, aspiring champion, muscian, Banner bearer, banner of swiftness, MoK, halberds, shields. 490

2 units of Chaos warhounds - 5 dogs, vanguard.80

Chimera - flamming breath, regen flesh, venom ooze. 290

I droped the hellcannon because my friend who I'll be playing with went with wood elves and is going to put ents in his army.

No problemo!

Here are some thoughts on your new list:

Jurassicorn wrote:
Chaos Lord - MoK, barded deamon mount, sword of bloodshed, soul feeder, shield, Dawnstone. 365

My original intention with the daemonic mount was to just get you a cooler model that would work with the knights and let you do some ranking shenanigans ... but given your (presumed?) newness to the game and the general crappiness of cannons, how about just going with a barded steed? Cheaper, simpler, and lets him ride with his knights with a general fearlessness when it comes to artillery snipes. As for his weapon, you've already got many attaks, what you want is better attaks - either stronger (ogre blade) or better at hitting (sword of striking), or something in between (sword of anti-heroes). More S5 attaks means you get to roll more dice, but that's not always better. Finally, he can't have a dawnstone, as the BSB already has one and you can't duplicate magic items. I'd invest in a ward save of some level, though he's got a 1+ armor save to start with, plus soul feeder to keep him in the game. If you can't find the points, he's probably cool with like a charmed shield + luckstone or something.

Exalted Hero - MoK, BS, scaled skin, dawnstone, shield 193

Solid

Chaos Sorcerer - level 1, dispel scroll, enchanted shield 140

I'd still like this guy to be level 2, so you can have a magic phase. It's pretty easy to find the points too ...

Chaos knights - 9 men, banner bearer, fire banner, musician, enscroled wepons. 435

Drop the flaming banner. On one side, it leads to rules disputes (I'm not convinced that it works with ensorcelled weapons, as those are magical weapons, while others argue that it does, as those magical 'weapons' give magical attaks), and on the other, is generally a bad idea to give your hammer unit flaming - enemy characters have easy access to fire wards, which will screw you when able. If you want a banner, I'd say lichebone is my choice here, as Searing Doom is a thing that kills knight buses, and MR(1) helps. Plus would stack with whatever ward your lord has to keep him safe vs magical snipes.

2 units of Chaos warriors - 10 men, aspiring champion, muscian, Banner bearer, banner of swiftness, MoK, halberds, shields. 490

First off, you can't duplicate banners of swiftness, as those are magic items (see above). But second, ten warriors aren't going to do anything but die, so combine the two together, dropping the extra command models. Third, make these lads 22 strong while you're at it, so the unit is 6-wide + 4-deep with both characters in there. Going deathstar is kind of sucky but it is certainly simpler and 8E will reward you in various ways.

2 units of Chaos warhounds - 5 dogs, vanguard.80

Drop vanguard, it'll just get them killed faster.

Chimera - flamming breath, regen flesh, venom ooze. 290

The poison is likewise a less good use of points, unless you like the idea of a fully kitted chimera on principle.

With the various dropped upgrades you should easily have the points for level 2 on the sorcerer - what lore you using?? - and a ward on the lord.

I droped the hellcannon because my friend who I'll be playing with went with wood elves and is going to put ents in his army.

Like treemen? The hellcannon is actually potentially great against them, because S10 D6 wounds (flaming?), and the 360 rampage charge to grab fast ponies / annoying scouts. But the chimera is awesome too, just watch out for LD tests!

- Salvage

Thanks for the ideas here is the new list. also I do like the Idea of a fully kited out chimera.

Chaos Lord - MoK, barded chaos steed, ogre blade, soul feeder, shield, talismen of preservation. 344

Exalted Hero - MoK, BS, scaled skin, dawnstone, shield 193

Chaos Sorcerer - level 2, dispel scroll, enchanted shield, lore of death. 175

Chaos knights - 9 men, banner bearer, musician, enscroled wepons, lichebone pennant.440

Chaos warriors - 22 men, aspiring champion, musician, Banner bearer, banner of swiftness, MoK, halberds, shields. 485

2 units of Chaos warhounds - 5 dogs. 60

Chimera - flamming breath, regen flesh, venom ooze. 290

I can dig it on the chimera, I do the same thing maxing out my monsters just because.

One last thing that occurred to me over lunch:

Jurassicorn wrote:
Chaos Lord - MoK, barded chaos steed, ogre blade, soul feeder, shield, talismen of preservation. 344

Isn't his shield 5 points normally? So a charmed shield ignores the first hit on a 2+ for precisely 0 points

- Salvage