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Hi Guys,

To be honest with you I am looking for a cheaper approach. Points does not matter, but real life cash is what concern me. I dont want to spent hundreds and maybe thousands of bucks on army list that is not prefprming at least average. I dont have good salary to afford myself to sell the whole list and start a new. So this what I worked out as a list. So far I have one tac squad, 5xassaults marines and 1 whilrwind. Please let me know shold I build around the list below:

BATTLE DEMI-COMPANY
Captain 185
* artificier armor
* jump pack
* teeth of terra
* power fist

Tac Squad (10) 180
* plasma gun
* missile launcher with flakk missiles

Rhino 35

Tac Squad (10) 180
* plasma gun
* missile launcher with flakk missiles

Rhino 35

Tac Squad (10) 185
* plasma gun
* missile launcher with flakk missiles

Rhino 35

Assault Squad (10) 205
* jump packs
* flamer (2)
* combi-melta, power sword

Devastator Squad (10) 220
* lascannon (4)

SUPPRESSION FORCE
Whirlwinds (3) 195

Land Speeder 50
* additional heavy bolter

Notering Really wrong with the list tbh, Nice and fluffy, should work somewhat decent.

Personally I would exchange the flakk for combi's on the sergeants matching the tac squad's special.
I would also change one plasmasquad for melta and get it a drop pod, for either a first turn vehicle popshot or area denial.

Teeth of terra and a fist seems a bit weird. I don't think you would be able to use the extra attacks from rampage for the fist, and if you let him accompany the assaultsquad, chances are you outnumber the squad you charge due to flamers and bringing 10 assault marines.
If you want to keep the teeth and take 10 assault marines, combat squad them and put the captain with the sergeant and four regular marines and put the flamers both in the other squad and deepstrike them.
I would either change the teeth for a lightning claw or a stormshield for better tanking for your assaut squad, assuming he goes with them.

A powerfist is usually a waste on the assault serge. They are easily picked out in a challenge and killed before they even strike at initiative 1. He is better of barebones or a powersword if you insist on upgrading him. Leave the combi, the flamers should do all the work. Killing too many increases your charge distance.

For the extra pointes you could either take melta bombs on all squads, a homing beacon on the pod for some cool and reliable deepstriking if it survives first turn or if you feel like it an eviscerator for the assault Squad. (It's awesome if you get it in combat, a tanking captain helps bigtime)
Maybe you could even upgrade the captain to a chaptermaster for an extra wound and an orbital strike.
Getting multimelta's on the speeder could work too but it would loose some synergie with the whirlwinds. Maybe it's even possible to squeeze in an extra speeder to increase your chances of making the formation work longer than one turn.
Just my two cents.

Bike squad instead of Assault (cheaper cash-wise, cheaper points-wise). You could get two boxes (3 in each) for cheaper than the assault box. Get some gravs on these (proxy or bits from tact box).

If you do go with bikers instead of assault, get your HQ on a bike too.

Tacts seem okay; but buy the razorback boxes instead of rhinos. you get a rhino with additional razorback sprue that way (allowing you to field them as either). Marginally more expensive, well worth it. Ebay's pretty good for rhinos otherwise.

Whirlwinds, being GW-exclusive, aren't that cheap to buy. You could proxy rhinos/razorbacks for them, or kitbash them using rhino/razorback sets. The suppression Force is cool though (cheap double-heavy bolter speeder is the way to go imo)

If you want 4 lascannons for you devs you'll need to either get two dev boxes, or buy spare ones on a bitz site/ebay. The extra heavy weapons from the devs can come in handy for tactical squads. Or a second dev squad (did someone say grav-cannons...)

Or if you like a mobile army you can splurge on speeders, stormtalons and bikes. All in the cheaper end of the range

The list is pretty solid.

These really bear repeating

-Buy the Razorback kit (the $5 saving or w/e is not worth it).

-If you can kitbash a turret WW, you can buy rhinos/razors and use them as WW instead. (tip: try doing that first before buying razorbacks or rhinos to use as whirlwinds, which also function as razorbacks or rhinos later and provide flexibility).

Your current list should hopefully be somewhat on the cheaper side (esp. if you don't have to use GW).

One thing I would advise:
Though Teeth of Terra and Power fist are cool, Burning Blade is better imo. It might not pop AV 13, but you're suprisingly killy on the charge against enemy HQs and units (and incandescent is rarely a problem, as it has to roll to wound before you take your save).

Also, as mentioned above, the eviscerator is probably a better bet than the powerfist now on the squad (BUT if you have some fluffy reason to do it, then by all means feel free to keep it. Crunch wise, the eviscerator will probably do more).

Thanks for all suggestions. Apologies for drenchign old thread like that but here is somehting that bothers me:

Assault Squad (10) 205
* jump packs
* flamer (2)
* combi-melta, power sword

It happens that I cannot field Assault Seargant with combi weapon... :( Is that true.

 DalinCriid wrote:
Thanks for all suggestions. Apologies for drenchign old thread like that but here is somehting that bothers me:

Assault Squad (10) 205
* jump packs
* flamer (2)
* combi-melta, power sword

It happens that I cannot field Assault Seargant with combi weapon... :( Is that true.

Not in the vanilla codex. Assault sergeants can just take from the melee list. You can give him melta bombs, or take those 10 points and upgrade him to a vet sarge.

 Nevelon wrote:

 DalinCriid wrote:
Thanks for all suggestions. Apologies for drenchign old thread like that but here is somehting that bothers me:

Assault Squad (10) 205
* jump packs
* flamer (2)
* combi-melta, power sword

It happens that I cannot field Assault Seargant with combi weapon... :( Is that true.

Not in the vanilla codex. Assault sergeants can just take from the melee list. You can give him melta bombs, or take those 10 points and upgrade him to a vet sarge.

Thanks for confirming. Can I do this then, instead upgrading to vet just give him : Melta Bomb, Power Sword + Shield and simple Bolt Gun. In this way the Squad will be 205 again.

 DalinCriid wrote:

Thanks for confirming. Can I do this then, instead upgrading to vet just give him : Melta Bomb, Power Sword + Shield and simple Bolt Gun. In this way the Squad will be 205 again.

Boltgun no. Bolt Pistol, yes.

 Nevelon wrote:

 DalinCriid wrote:

Thanks for confirming. Can I do this then, instead upgrading to vet just give him : Melta Bomb, Power Sword + Shield and simple Bolt Gun. In this way the Squad will be 205 again.

Boltgun no. Bolt Pistol, yes.

Pistol, yes. Sorry I confuse a lot of stuff.