Switch Theme:

[1000] - White Scars - Competitive  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in au
Been Around the Block




Australia

White Scars 1000pt list:
HQ:
• Kor’Sarro Khan- 150pts: Moondraken
Troops:
• Bike Squad- 150pts: 5x bikers, 2x grav-guns, combi-grav, melta bombs
• Bike Squad- 150pts: 5x bikers, 2x grav-guns, combi-grav, melta bombs
• Bike Squad- 175pts: 5x bikers, 2x meltas, attack bike with multi melta, melta bombs
Fast Attack:
• Stormtalon- 125pts: Skyhammer missile launchers
Elites:
• Command Squad- 250pts: 5x bikers, 5x grav-guns, Apothecary, 2x storm shields, melta bombs


Any thoughts???
   
Made in ca
Focused Fire Warrior





Well you cant have 5 grav guns and an apothecary so you have 15 pts to play with I think lol. I'd take more, smaller squads of bikes. Drop a guy out of each squad and you have enough for another squad of 3 with a gravgun(since you cant take the one in the command squad.) U could also drop the combigrav and melta bombs and just use the sarge in each squad as an ablative wound. Having more small squads makes you more mobile and makes your opponent have to decide more what he engages. Especially in 1000 pts he would likely have less units with lots of long range weapons.

I'm assuming khan goes with command squad and they tank any nasty attacks with LoS 3+ invuln shields?

   
Made in ca
Stalwart Space Marine




Toronto, ON

This is a great-looking list. I agree with Nalydyn's advice. You could also opt for a melta gun and melta bomb on the extra squad though, to keep with your pattern. Up to you, of course.

5000+ pts 2000+ pts DS:80S+GMB++IPw40k091+D+A++/mWD-R+++T(T)DM+ 
   
Made in au
Been Around the Block




Australia

I defiantly agree with your comments and this is what I have come up with. I have shortened the amount of bikes per squad and gained 2 grav guns and two meltas from it. Also the command squad has gained an extra storm shield from the loss of melta bombs

White Scars 1000pt list:
HQ:
• Kor’Sarro Khan- 150pts: Moondraken
Troops:
• Bike Squad- 93pts: 3x bikers, 2x grav-guns
• Bike Squad- 93pts: 3x bikers, 2x grav-guns
• Bike Squad- 93pts: 3x bikers, 2x grav-guns
• Bike Squad- 83pts: 3x bikers, 2x meltas
• Bike Squad- 123pts: 3x bikers, 2x meltas, attack bike with multi melta
Fast Attack:
• Stormtalon- 125pts: Skyhammer missile launchers
Elites:
• Command Squad- 240pts: 5x bikers, 4x grav-guns, Apothecary, 3x storm shields


What do you think???
   
Made in ca
Focused Fire Warrior





Looks good. The only thing you really have to worry about is hordes. But you can always dakka them with TL bolters. never forget atk bike can shoot both! Stormtalon is also bringin decent dakka so that will help. I'm assuming you wanna keep a biker theme, if you think anyone might bring a horde/hordes, try an atk bike squad with hvy bolters.

You could try and fit in a biker libby to TL some shooting. Tling the command squad grav-guns... God the horror. 12 TL grav shots would annihilate almost any TEQ squad. Would also work well if you went atk bike hvy bolter squad for accurate dakka. Best option would probly be a thunderfire cannon. It can hold a backfield objective that your bikers won't want to since they need to get into 6/12/18 inches to be effective.

Extra storm shield is good. Keep those gravguns safe your opponeny is gonna try and bring those guys down HARD.
   
Made in us
Dangerous Leadbelcher




I'll second the call for a thunderfire cannon. It also gives you your 3+ cover save without jinking in one spot, which is handy to camp an objective.

Your points look off to me with the new dex...
Stormtalon 115 as equipt now?
command squad 230?
bike squad with attack multimelta 133?

re: melta, I think it is worth considering fast attack multimeltas instead of troop meltas. Khan let's-em get in 'close' range of a target anywhere on the board. You lose some objsec though...

edit: correcting points

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/09/03 14:08:08


 
   
Made in au
Been Around the Block




Australia

I defiantly agree with the idea of including a thunderfire cannon but where do you suggest i should include it in my army? Also here is the revised list with the 'correct' points. Now the command squad has 4 storm shields and a Company Champion due to the point changes.

White Scars 1000pt list:
HQ:
• Kor’Sarro Khan- 150pts: Moondraken
Troops:
• Bike Squad- 93pts: 3x bikers, 2x grav-guns
• Bike Squad- 93pts: 3x bikers, 2x grav-guns
• Bike Squad- 93pts: 3x bikers, 2x grav-guns
• Bike Squad- 83pts: 3x bikers, 2x meltas
• Bike Squad- 133pts: 3x bikers, 2x meltas, attack bike with multi melta
Fast Attack:
• Stormtalon- 115pts: Skyhammer missile launchers
Elites:
• Command Squad- 240pts: 5x bikers, 4x grav-guns, Company Champion, 4x storm shields

What do you suggest I should i should do to include a thunderfire cannon or two???
   
Made in ca
Focused Fire Warrior





Why is the apothecary back to a champion? Squad is much better with FnP than an extra Psword. They should be hit&running every turn anyways, is he there just to take challenges for khan?

As for including a TFC you could drop a gravbike-squad, and a storm shield off the command squad. You'd have 8 pts left over. You could give something melta bombs but I have no idea what to do with the leftover 3 pts. Or you could drop the stormtalon but that's probly not a good idea since it's already filling the role you need it to. That's really difficult to say actually damn. Like you could drop the Atk bike for 50 pts, and 2 storm shields for another 30 but you'd still be 20 short.

The best option is probably to drop the command squad. It would open up alot of options, but the big grav squad is truly deadly. Honestly you could probably just stick with that list it can deal with most stuff there's not alot of players that bring hordes anyways. You could drop a grav squad to flamers for extra infantry killing, and 20 extra points. Then drop a storm shield and the 5pt skyhammer missiles for an atk bike with HB. But then you have a crappier Stormtalon, although it would dakka like a champ now, and yuo're gonna wanna be in 24" anyways for the assault cannons so the range drop isn't that big of a deal.
   
Made in au
Been Around the Block




Australia

There is no point having an Apothecary when every other veteran has storm shields so FNP has no use. Therefore I think the Company Champion is more effective because he can help Khan if he needs to serving a purpose. I also think hes pretty cool. But thanks for the advice, I might switch up my list for a group of flamers or change up some other load outs for hordes. But overall I am now pretty happy with my list

Thanks for all the help.
   
Made in ca
Focused Fire Warrior





FnP has a definite purpose. 3+ save isn't infallible. With T5 you get it against anything but D or STR10 weapons, so even if you fail your 3++ save you still have a 5+ to back you up. This unit will be a HUGE fire magnet(unless the guy is running green tide, then he'll just laugh at your pitiful 6+ to wound his ork boyz) you're gonna want them to be REALLY tough, and a real pain to get rid of. Plus Khan only has a 4++ he's actually quite vulnerable with only a 50/50 shot of succeeding against things like missiles and lascannons.

If you just like the model that's fine, but you did say this was a competitive list, and having a second roll to avoid small arms fire killing one of your guys or ticking a wound off Khan is better than an extra power sword. In fact, give the champ a power axe instead of sword if you're gonna take him, so that you can hurt 2+ guys like termies and MCs which your squad has no answer to in melee.(and which, if you're charging into to avoid counterfire, and then hit and running back out of again, which is a good tactic, you will be able to do a bit better damage.
   
Made in au
Been Around the Block




Australia

I see your point and I agree. I just realized FNP rolls are added to the invulnerable saves as well making the Apothecary a vital model. Thanks for the help
   
Made in ca
Focused Fire Warrior





Lol youre welcome. Ya its super good. A big reason necrons are strong is reanimation protocols, which is basically fnp but better. You definately want fnp on that squad especially with all those storm shields. If you want power swords just give em to the bikers. Youd have to find extra pts for that tho and it's a bit expensive. Give them Plances for hilarity with hit and run. No dont do that jk get power axes.
   
 
Forum Index » 40K Army Lists
Go to: