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Wondering what was the worst experience you EVER had when playing miniwargaming and 40k in specific.

Mine was my very first match. Told the guy I was a newb and wanted a friendly match. 1000pts.

I brought ablack legion list with lots of chosen, marks and upgrades. Very fluffy and Your dudes (there were Varamar, champion blahblah, fun roleplaying). It was close combat oriented because I found it cool.

Cue him bringing an unbound list, cramming two formations: 1st (read, grav-sternguard) and 10th (read, snipers out of the ass) company taskforces plus tigurius and a unit of grav-centurions. He had organized the terrain so as to make a perfect firing lane and lots of terrain in his side, one building (an imperial bastion) in mine. I of course didn't want to complain because I didn't know yet how to gauge the strengths. When I wanted to use the bastion as ruins he told me that was a fortification and I'd ought to pay for it, so he told me I couldn't use it.
It was a massacre. With the snipers he killed off all my special weapons (2 meltas and a plasma) and bled me. I shrugged it off, being ld10 and/or fearless. Then came the grav and wrecked me. I lasted 2 turns of mine and by the third he had slaughtered me. I had killed a single scout.

To add salt to injury, my brand new tape had been switched by his: it was old, had blue and gold stains in a few little spots and the metal was crooked. He, of course denied the accusation and that served to make myself a bad name in that GW store.

My worst game was when I got my first Shock attack gun. Its was the old metal model. Weighs a good amount. First shoot of the game, I rolled double 6's. This was back when the model was just removed from play. I hit this guys landraider with terminators in it and commander in it. He lost both units. He was so upset. He picked up my big mek and throw him at a wall. Instead of him breaking, it put a hole in the wall. The shop owner was so pissed. Kicked us both out.

I came back the next day. I had to cut a hole in the wall to get my big mek back because he had fell down the wall. I then dry wall patched his wall and sanded it smooth. All the owner had to do is paint the wall. I was not welcome back in the store. The store is now closed.

 Glitcha wrote:
My worst game was when I got my first Shock attack gun. Its was the old metal model. Weighs a good amount. First shoot of the game, I rolled double 6's. This was back when the model was just removed from play. I hit this guys landraider with terminators in it and commander in it. He lost both units. He was so upset. He picked up my big mek and throw him at a wall. Instead of him breaking, it put a hole in the wall. The shop owner was so pissed. Kicked us both out.

I came back the next day. I had to cut a hole in the wall to get my big mek back because he had fell down the wall. I then dry wall patched his wall and sanded it smooth. All the owner had to do is paint the wall. I was not welcome back in the store. The store is now closed.

That owner was an donkey-cave to you, considering what you did and happened I'd even give you thanks.. feth, you cleaned the mess another person made. But well, bygones are bygones.

That's bad, dude.

I hope that the poor experience you had won't put you off the game itself.

 Glitcha wrote:
My worst game was when I got my first Shock attack gun. Its was the old metal model. Weighs a good amount. First shoot of the game, I rolled double 6's. This was back when the model was just removed from play. I hit this guys landraider with terminators in it and commander in it. He lost both units. He was so upset. He picked up my big mek and throw him at a wall. Instead of him breaking, it put a hole in the wall. The shop owner was so pissed. Kicked us both out.

I came back the next day. I had to cut a hole in the wall to get my big mek back because he had fell down the wall. I then dry wall patched his wall and sanded it smooth. All the owner had to do is paint the wall. I was not welcome back in the store. The store is now closed.

Can't say I've ever had one as bad as this. My worst game was during a tournament where my partner and I (both playing Eldar, 6th edition, so there were three Serpents on the table) went up against a Tau army. Now, this army was strong, and I don't mind someone fielding something strong in a tourney. Plus, this was Tau 6th-ed, and they only had two Riptides, instead choosing to flood the field with Piranhas. However, I was positive the guy was using loaded dice. I had never seen dice roll so hot. But hey, some days people get lucky. But then even before the game he called them his "lucky dice" and that no one else was allowed to use them. His partner rolled hot, but had his string of some bad rolls too, but this guy with the "lucky" dice refused to even have them inspected.

The worst part was, I let it get to me. It was just a friendly tournament - no big prizes on the line or anything, so the TO didn't step in when I brought up my concerns privately to them - and I should have just focused on having fun. Instead, I let this guy's maybe-cheating (because, yeah, ultimately I have no proof other than my 15+ years in this hobby giving me that gut instinct) get to me and ruin my day.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I had never ever before accused someone of wilfully cheating or using weighted dice. I've seen hot dice before, where someone can't fail a save and whatnot, and you're both laughing over how unbelievably things are turning out. This is because there's a difference between dice always rolling high, and dice rolling both low and high, but getting the right ones at the right times (like they roll a bunch of 2's and 3's and 4's when going for 2+ saves, but 5's and 6's when going for 5+ saves, so the only dice roll they're actually being lucky in avoiding is a 1, but the distribution of the rolls just lines up perfectly with when they needed them). Hence, the one guy was just rolling hot. The other guy was only rolling high - consistently getting eight or more 4+'s on groups of 10 dice.

Very first game when I started back in 2nd edition, around 1997 or so. I had basically just the starter box (so like two tactical squads) I think maybe a Rhino, maybe Marneus Calgar (because he looked cool), I can't remember but it was your typically wide-eyed newbie badly painted Ultramarines. Anyways, game store said they were doing a 40k night run by a veteran player. 15 year old me was like awesome, so I show up. There's another kid there, he also is just starting out and has Ultramarines too. But wait, there's more. Guy running the game is like okay let's do a 2v1 game, you both versus me. He brings out Space Wolves; these were 2nd edition Space Wolves where your terminators could have a Cyclone Missile Launcher AND an Assault Cannon, and he has a lot of them. He also proceeds to bring out an Armorcast Warhound Titan; I'm like woah is that thing legal to use in the game, I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere in any of the books. He goes sure it's legal, it came with rules (and brings out the Armorcast rules).

Needless to say it was a slaughter and he trashed us both with basically no effort at all.

It was not a very good welcoming to the world of Warhammer 40,000, in fact after that I mostly stayed to playing my brother's Tyranids at home instead of going to the store.

Come to think of it, my first WHFB game around the same time wasn't that great either; not nearly that bad though, but I honestly can't remember a lot of it besides a lot of the players were not only stereotypical gamers (i.e. fat, bearded and smelly) but also were very much the "Oh look a newbie time to bring out the big guns" type of people, rather than be encouraging.

Honorable mention, in WHFB again, goes to a small "league" run by a game store (not the same one as above) where the owner's son fielded a Bretonnian lord on Emperor Dragon and two min units of archers that did nothing, and proceeded to steamroll everybody else in the league, resulting in most of them dropping out so I automatically ended up in the finals against him; I tried to fight him by bringing a Vampire Lord and hoping to get off Hand of Dust (which if I rolled well would have insta-killed him) but rolled one short and lost, but came in 2nd nonetheless. He then used his winnings to buy more MtG cards, which was weird because as the son of the store owner, and also working there, he could have basically gotten anything he wanted. I later heard that, many years later, he basically cheated in a magic tournament the shop had by changing the rules and not telling anyone (not sure how that actually worked, was just what I heard) and then using it to win.

I was long since banned from the store, for yet another "worst experience" story, unrelated to warhammer but I'll throw in as a bonus: At the time they were playing a game called Hackmaster, which was a parody of 1st edition AD&D. The son was, naturally, the most powerful character in the group, and would bully everyone else in-game (and maybe out of game) to be his manservants or he would kill them (in game). They would invite new players to join, give them a "free" magic item, and then proceed to either murder them and/or get them killed to take the item, and when they complained, basically insulted them (taking the joking "serious business" of Hackmaster and making it real) and running them out. One guy almost had a breakdown because he was deathly afraid that they had given his character a magical cursed sword that would betray him, and the son relished in that. Anyways, long story short I posted on the Hackmaster forums asking for some advice to make a character to basically weasel in and get stuff from him (the son was, at the time, a high school friend of mine. Interesting side note he was very smart, milked the system to only have classes on half days because he "worked" at his dad's store, and still dropped out of school senior year because it was "a waste of time"). Anyways, someone who was ran out came to the thread and said what they were doing. People, naturally, said how it was a donkey-cave move, and the company that made the game did an "investigation" and kicked the store out of the Hackmaster Retail Association (which I don't know what it actually entailed). Then the gak hit the fan; people (including the guy who almost had a breadkdown!) came to the thread to insult me, make death threats against me and my family for "ruining" their experience, etc. and I never went back to the store, and it later closed down.

Off the top of my head, taking Abaddon and an attached unit of Terminators, all coming in via deep strike. Only turning up on turn four, most of the rest of my force already wiped out (by nids) only to then have my newly arrived unit hit by a mawloc, losing all bar one of the Terminators and Abaddon taking a wound.
The same mawloc had wiped out a unit of chosen early on (naive me, didn't know)
Still a bit new to the game, but lessons learnt the hard way.
Never used Terminators, Abaddon or chosen since. Boring lists but more competitive games

Wayniac wrote:
Very first game when I started back in 2nd edition, around 1997 or so. I had basically just the starter box (so like two tactical squads) I think maybe a Rhino, maybe Marneus Calgar (because he looked cool), I can't remember but it was your typically wide-eyed newbie badly painted Ultramarines. Anyways, game store said they were doing a 40k night run by a veteran player. 15 year old me was like awesome, so I show up. There's another kid there, he also is just starting out and has Ultramarines too. But wait, there's more. Guy running the game is like okay let's do a 2v1 game, you both versus me. He brings out Space Wolves; these were 2nd edition Space Wolves where your terminators could have a Cyclone Missile Launcher AND an Assault Cannon, and he has a lot of them. He also proceeds to bring out an Armorcast Warhound Titan; I'm like woah is that thing legal to use in the game, I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere in any of the books. He goes sure it's legal, it came with rules (and brings out the Armorcast rules).

Needless to say it was a slaughter and he trashed us both with basically no effort at all.

It was not a very good welcoming to the world of Warhammer 40,000..

Somehow I sense that guy was a massive donkey-cave. I know there's the need to show the meta but... it's cheap and a dick move to bring a titan on an unexperienced player. I'd honestly backpedal at that.

Wow, a guy threw your metal model through a wall? He would have gotten something in return... arrested by cops for criminal damage to property with restitution requested, or a swift kick to the nuts.

That's just ridiculous. The first time I played my imperial knight I played against my buddy who used salamanders. I had saved for a while to buy one and spent days lovingly painting it. My friend got the first turn and drop podded a melta/combi melta sternguard squad just behind it. Needless to say it exploded and took out a large chunk of my dark angels... we had a laugh about it and I never used my imperial knight again. I never even had a thought of throwing his model through my wall, my only thought was I couldn't believe I spent well over $100 on a POS model that is fragile as hell.

Ah, and I remember that in that match I rolled a dice to run the unit when I was in the movement phase because I wasn't going to shoot. He said, after I moved them, that I had finished my movement phase and that it was my shooting phase. He was very anal about it, so I only got to move a D6 on my first turn for the rest of the army.

Big apoc game, like 100k on each side or something. It was the final game of a 6 month narrative. I was the only guy who bought max points but no titans, so I had no D weaponry, and very few ways to deal with titans. I just had gakloads of stuff.

My table partner didn't show up, and my teams warmaster threw me to the dogs, a sacrifice. Put me against the eldar guy with several superheavies, pretty much all the titans and whatever you can think of. His teammate was harlequins. He went from happy and "oh will will be fun, both sides will lose tons of stuff everything will die" to pouty depression when a wave serpent died. He raged, whined, and complained while I was being pulled back and fourth running around trying to move shoot and assault within the time limits. Not having a partner to help was horrible, but then having to deal with all the negativity was just insane.

It was about 12 hours of playing, our team lost, a good chunk of my models broke, one was backhanded and flew across the room. It has soured my entire opinion of the game, players and community. Now all I see are how whiny and entitled everyone is. There are so many local people who just moan about how their army isn't the best, they play nids or CSM and ts 24/7 complaining. I can't stand it anymore, I am super cynical and have to hold my hand and bite my tongue from responding in negative manners. I want to go back to enjoying the game.

I didn't unpack all my stuff for a week, it's been weeks since then and I still haven't done jack squat. which is a big deal considering I used to paint at least a little very night. I'm trying to get back into playing with some friends, smaller friendly games with good people.

I know I should have walked away from the game, but I didn't want to let the +20 other people playing in the apoc game down. I didn't want to be the dude who messed it all up. I know next year I will just sit it out. I looked forward to the event so much, and it was such a horrible horrible disaster for me.

I want to love my hobby as much as I used to again, but I know its going to take time to forget all the frustration and spite from that day. To remember how to ignore all the gak people post and say, and just have a good time with it.

Back in 2E, all I had was RT001 Space Marines, mostly because my (non-existent) money was sunk into what D&D I could get my hands on. Only played infrequently.

I went to the local "club" to play a game. Opponent played Chaos marines/daemons, with a leader (must have been a Sorceror) on a Juggernaut, bunch of Pink Horrors and some Beserkers. I got slapped silly as my marines got turned into Pink Horrors, the horrors I did kill only turned into Blue Horrors and the only missile launcher guy I had that could harm the juggernaut died in the first turn. I was so put off by the game that I didn't pick up playing again until 5th edition, and as soon as I heard of a Grey Knight army, I started collecting them.

Back in 5th I played in an ATC tourney with Necron Night Scythe/ A-Barge, Wraith spam list. I got paired off with a guy playing 5 Land Raiders and minimum guys in each.
The guys slow played me so that my Haywire Cryteks didn't get on the board til we were almost out of time.
He kept moving his LRs, checking sponson LOS and moving them back. Dude had only 5 units yet his turns took over 45mins each, while my turns took less than 15.
I got so made about it that I ended up looking like the A-hole. By the time I realized I needed a judge to come ove, the round was pretty much over with no way to prove what he was doing, I easily should have tabled this guy due to the match-up, but he slow-played for points denial.

He kept saying, "hey you clearly won this one, relax" yet his shenanigans prevented me from getting enough points for my team to advance farther.
This single game made me realize that the Night-Scythe spam lists could not build momentum fast enough and thus I never played the army again.

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 Galef wrote:
Back in 5th I played in an ATC tourney with Necron Night Scythe/ A-Barge, Wraith spam list. I got paired off with a guy playing 5 Land Raiders and minimum guys in each.
The guys slow played me so that my Haywire Cryteks didn't get on the board til we were almost out of time.
He kept moving his LRs, checking sponson LOS and moving them back. Dude had only 5 units yet his turns took over 45mins each, while my turns took less than 15.
I got so made about it that I ended up looking like the A-hole. By the time I realized I needed a judge to come ove, the round was pretty much over with no way to prove what he was doing, I easily should have tabled this guy due to the match-up, but he slow-played for points denial.

He kept saying, "hey you clearly won this one, relax" yet his shenanigans prevented me from getting enough points for my team to advance farther.
This single game made me realize that the Night-Scythe spam lists could not build momentum fast enough and thus I never played the army again.

-

Now that's what I call being petty, VERY petty.

 gwarsh41 wrote:
Big apoc game, like 100k on each side or something. It was the final game of a 6 month narrative. I was the only guy who bought max points but no titans, so I had no D weaponry, and very few ways to deal with titans. I just had gakloads of stuff.

My table partner didn't show up, and my teams warmaster threw me to the dogs, a sacrifice. Put me against the eldar guy with several superheavies, pretty much all the titans and whatever you can think of. His teammate was harlequins. He went from happy and "oh will will be fun, both sides will lose tons of stuff everything will die" to pouty depression when a wave serpent died. He raged, whined, and complained while I was being pulled back and fourth running around trying to move shoot and assault within the time limits. Not having a partner to help was horrible, but then having to deal with all the negativity was just insane.

It was about 12 hours of playing, our team lost, a good chunk of my models broke, one was backhanded and flew across the room. It has soured my entire opinion of the game, players and community. Now all I see are how whiny and entitled everyone is. There are so many local people who just moan about how their army isn't the best, they play nids or CSM and ts 24/7 complaining. I can't stand it anymore, I am super cynical and have to hold my hand and bite my tongue from responding in negative manners. I want to go back to enjoying the game.

I didn't unpack all my stuff for a week, it's been weeks since then and I still haven't done jack squat. which is a big deal considering I used to paint at least a little very night. I'm trying to get back into playing with some friends, smaller friendly games with good people.

I know I should have walked away from the game, but I didn't want to let the +20 other people playing in the apoc game down. I didn't want to be the dude who messed it all up. I know next year I will just sit it out. I looked forward to the event so much, and it was such a horrible horrible disaster for me.

I want to love my hobby as much as I used to again, but I know its going to take time to forget all the frustration and spite from that day. To remember how to ignore all the gak people post and say, and just have a good time with it.

I know it may not be much of a salve at this point, but it will get better. The main thing to do is make mental notes as you play people, especially other regular members of your local gaming community. If someone is a donkey cave, or a chronic complainer, or whatever TFG behavior they choose to engage in, note it, finish the game, and resolve to never play them again (outside of tournaments or the like if you prefer, where you don't have a say in who you play).

I've had to have this conversation with several people over the ~15 or so years I've been playing 40k, and it goes something like this:
"I don't want to play you any more till you correct 'X' behavior. This game takes 2 hours or more on average to play and I can find other things I enjoy doing more than spending that time playing you, at least until you fix this issue." I'm always super friendly, and open about where I'm coming from when I tell someone this, and I always do it in private. No need embarrassing someone needlessly in front of a group.

Your mileage may vary, but I would pull back and do some smaller games versus people you know and trust to be good people to play against. Go back to a place you enjoy and find your spark again. Having personally run an Apoc game, they can be nightmarish to deal with. Sorry to hear nobody on the opposing side volunteered to come around and help you push minis. Had I been participating I would have jumped over and been a second set of hands to move models and roll dice with your direction so you weren't having to be pulled in so many directions.

Take it easy for now, and best of luck.

-Red__Thirst-

 Red__Thirst wrote:


I know it may not be much of a salve at this point, but it will get better. The main thing to do is make mental notes as you play people, especially other regular members of your local gaming community. If someone is a donkey cave, or a chronic complainer, or whatever TFG behavior they choose to engage in, note it, finish the game, and resolve to never play them again (outside of tournaments or the like if you prefer, where you don't have a say in who you play).

I've had to have this conversation with several people over the ~15 or so years I've been playing 40k, and it goes something like this:
"I don't want to play you any more till you correct 'X' behavior. This game takes 2 hours or more on average to play and I can find other things I enjoy doing more than spending that time playing you, at least until you fix this issue." I'm always super friendly, and open about where I'm coming from when I tell someone this, and I always do it in private. No need embarrassing someone needlessly in front of a group.

Your mileage may vary, but I would pull back and do some smaller games versus people you know and trust to be good people to play against. Go back to a place you enjoy and find your spark again. Having personally run an Apoc game, they can be nightmarish to deal with. Sorry to hear nobody on the opposing side volunteered to come around and help you push minis. Had I been participating I would have jumped over and been a second set of hands to move models and roll dice with your direction so you weren't having to be pulled in so many directions.

Take it easy for now, and best of luck.

-Red__Thirst-

The worst part is that I knew as soon as I saw the models on the table, I knew it would be a bad game. It had been over a year since I had played the dude. I have refused games flat out in the past, done whatever I have to not to play him and it seemed like he may have changed, but I found out he had not. I wonder if it would have been a bigger fallout to let so many people down as it was to suffer through it. I can't change it though, only move forward. I've started to make a small narrative with a friend, they are smaller, but will build up to normal and large size games. Hopefully when its done I will only have good memories and wont keep thinking about that bad day.
Thank you for the kind words and advice.

 gwarsh41 wrote:
Big apoc game, like 100k on each side or something. It was the final game of a 6 month narrative. I was the only guy who bought max points but no titans, so I had no D weaponry, and very few ways to deal with titans. I just had gakloads of stuff.

My table partner didn't show up, and my teams warmaster threw me to the dogs, a sacrifice. Put me against the eldar guy with several superheavies, pretty much all the titans and whatever you can think of. His teammate was harlequins. He went from happy and "oh will will be fun, both sides will lose tons of stuff everything will die" to pouty depression when a wave serpent died. He raged, whined, and complained while I was being pulled back and fourth running around trying to move shoot and assault within the time limits. Not having a partner to help was horrible, but then having to deal with all the negativity was just insane.

It was about 12 hours of playing, our team lost, a good chunk of my models broke, one was backhanded and flew across the room. It has soured my entire opinion of the game, players and community. Now all I see are how whiny and entitled everyone is. There are so many local people who just moan about how their army isn't the best, they play nids or CSM and ts 24/7 complaining. I can't stand it anymore, I am super cynical and have to hold my hand and bite my tongue from responding in negative manners. I want to go back to enjoying the game.

I didn't unpack all my stuff for a week, it's been weeks since then and I still haven't done jack squat. which is a big deal considering I used to paint at least a little very night. I'm trying to get back into playing with some friends, smaller friendly games with good people.

I know I should have walked away from the game, but I didn't want to let the +20 other people playing in the apoc game down. I didn't want to be the dude who messed it all up. I know next year I will just sit it out. I looked forward to the event so much, and it was such a horrible horrible disaster for me.

I want to love my hobby as much as I used to again, but I know its going to take time to forget all the frustration and spite from that day. To remember how to ignore all the gak people post and say, and just have a good time with it.

I have never had what I'd consider to be a positive experience when playing those massive games. Every time I hear about one being planned I'm like "nope!". I could handle a big battle with maybe up to 6 people, and I'd have to know they have their **** together.

My suggestion? Find a like minded individual and have a smaller game over nice terrain. Actually, sometimes the younger players are great for this. We have some young teenagers here that are clearly in it for the fluff and the sweet models, and it's a great excuse for me to bring less competitive lists built with stuff I don't normally bring. These kids aren't trying to powergame, and often have a better attitude than their more "mature" counterparts.

If I'm lucky I can show up to the club and get a choice between maxed WAAC Tau played by a moody twentysomething or all-jump-packs-all-the-time Blood Angel 30K (all painted!) list played by a grinning 13 year old. One of those games is going to be pulling teeth, and one of them is going to be a fun time.

Only ever played one fun Apocalypse game. That was at Games Day Toronto back when Necrons in 3rd edition were released. And it was fun because you were using like 2 units against another 2 units, and occasionally huge stuff would show up for 5 minutes and kill everything around it.

Oh man there are so many to choose from considering my dice seem to roll 90% either 1s,5s, or 6s games can be interesting. Some games the KFF doesn't fail and I win by a landslide. Others go so poorly that everyone else takes pity. Like when I went to my first tournament. I was playing orks and it was hammer and anvil deployment against artillery IG. I had the green tide and first turn I ran to the middle of the board. He moved some to get in range and such and ended about 10ish inches away with his main body and a few units 2 and 4 inches away. My turn I roll 2 inches for my movement through terrain. I ran 1 inch and then I assaulted because I had called the WAAAAGH.... I rolled double 2s but ok that's fine I can still make the 8 inch charge to the frontline after overwatch. I reroll the one dice and get a 1... So a 1 inch charge and then the pile in bunched the entire tide up and from that point on even with decent moves I was losing so many orks that I was still losing ground. The guy felt so bad too because he had truly wanted a nice glorious combat there and the dice certainly said no.

 gwarsh41 wrote:


The worst part is that I knew as soon as I saw the models on the table, I knew it would be a bad game. It had been over a year since I had played the dude. I have refused games flat out in the past, done whatever I have to not to play him and it seemed like he may have changed, but I found out he had not. I wonder if it would have been a bigger fallout to let so many people down as it was to suffer through it. I can't change it though, only move forward. I've started to make a small narrative with a friend, they are smaller, but will build up to normal and large size games. Hopefully when its done I will only have good memories and wont keep thinking about that bad day.
Thank you for the kind words and advice.

Sounds like you might should have a conversation with this eldar player. Sometimes, people need to be told what they're doing because the genuinely don't realize they're doing it. Other times, they do, and they're beyond expending any more effort to help them improve as people.

I think you did the right thing by toughing it out, though it had a more negative effect on you in the long run. In the future, though, there needs to be some very clearly defined ground rules regarding Apoc scaled games. I learned this lesson the hard way with several tournaments I ran, and then later, when I ran my lone apoc game, it was run with an Iron Fist, no shenanigans were tolerated and everyone was under the clear understanding that if they acted up, they'd get one warning, and then be told to leave. That included having a bad attitude or whining excessively over our toy soldiers and the results of dice rolling. Everyone knew this, and agreed to it, because it's supposed to be fun for everyone, win or lose. If everyone knows the ground rules, and consequences for breaking said ground rules, it makes life a lot easier. Hopefully that lesson I learned the hard way helps your future endeavors regarding larger games or group events.

Get back up on that bronco and keep riding, you'll have good games, especially if you're playing good people who love the game as much as you (and I, and many others here) do. Bad days happen, and good days happen too. The bad days help you appreciate the good ones.

Take it easy for now, and I hope your next game is a blast!

-Red__Thirst-

 Glitcha wrote:
My worst game was when I got my first Shock attack gun. Its was the old metal model. Weighs a good amount. First shoot of the game, I rolled double 6's. This was back when the model was just removed from play. I hit this guys landraider with terminators in it and commander in it. He lost both units. He was so upset. He picked up my big mek and throw him at a wall. Instead of him breaking, it put a hole in the wall. The shop owner was so pissed. Kicked us both out.

I came back the next day. I had to cut a hole in the wall to get my big mek back because he had fell down the wall. I then dry wall patched his wall and sanded it smooth. All the owner had to do is paint the wall. I was not welcome back in the store. The store is now closed.

Wow, I've never played with anyone who got so mad about following the damned rules, especially since there's a less than 1/36 chance of the SAG doing that (factor in being able to hit with it).

Was the model intact? I have a metal SAG and ghaz, and they seem solid enough to survive a trip through drywall, except for the bosspoles.

Did you ever have to play with or see this guy again?

Aside: Even though the land raider was removed from play, would the occupants also be removed from play, or would they make an emergency disembarkation or something? removed from play effects are rare nowadays, but I'm curious how that would be ruled today.

My experience isn't any where near as bad as most here, but recently I had a game set up for me by a friend at 1500 points.

I told him that I wanted to use only painted my painted models (Ultramarines) and that it was wildly low level in power. So I asked him to let my opponent know and to just bring something fun and at that level so the game would be interesting.

Then on the day he shows up with a very competitive top tier KDK army.

It was not only very obvious I had lost (not really worried about losing) but it was more the fact I was very excited to get a game in only to be met with a "net list" and not have an enjoyable game.

I don't have anything against competitive players but I know its not what I enjoy. I know I wont be playing with him again as I don't think he understood that it wasn't fun for both parties, what arguably is the most important part of playing the game right?

Every time I play against Tau.

In my 3rd game of 40k ever. My sister'd high school boyfriend joined us at a party with his eldar army. I played a foot slunging CSM army with units of bezerkers and CSMs. All my models were painted and i wanted to face Eldar for the first time.

His army was 100% long range. He proxied bottle caps for models he didnt own even though he had models he could have played with. The game was on a ping pong table, using pop cans and tissue boxes. Needless to say i had no terrain to hide in but all of his army of eldar bottlecaps were deployed on a 4" tall box that was hard to access.

The game played out and I was tabled before he moved or before any assaults were made.

WORST PART. . . at the end of the game when we were cleaning up, i saw that a hand full of his dice were all 5s. Another handful had four 6s on them. He said something on the lines of "how did those dice get mixed in with mine?"

End of the party i drove him home, his army in my trunk. I dropped him off and didnt return the army for two months. "How did that army get mixed in with mine?"

This post is probably going to sound racist, but it was probably when we did a team battle involving a hardcore zionist who was wearing a yamaka and brought a friend wearing a shirt saying, "I support the actions of Israel". That wasn't really as bad as his abusive attitude and how he's like, "DON'T TOUCH MY DICE!" if you accidentally nudge it a bit. We beat him in the end and I did get some ironic laughs out of the fact that he was forced to pair up with a Pakistani.

2nd story....

My sisters husband Paul, long after her ex bf I mentioned in the last story. Paul's worst game was with me.

His first and last game ever. Marines vs orks.

His ten man tactical marine squad was advancing to his enemy. At 8" away he placed a blast on a large unit of boys and threw a grenade. Between the two units he saw an arrow leading straight back and a roll of 12 caused the grenade to land in the center of his unit. His next roll was all 1s and 2s and most his unit was killed. I told him he can just rethrow the grenade and we can play on but he didnt want to use any modifier or cheat to help him out. His next roll caused his marines to fall back as well as him. He fell back to WOW and never played another GW game. That was almost 10 years ago.

My worst 40K experience....

There was this tiny LGS where I used to live. Only had 2 gaming tables, so they were sort of hotly contested, and it was tough to get a game. You basically had to sign up ahead of time and reserve table space. No problem so far, right?

So a buddy of mine was just getting into 40K, and playing Tyranids. He played at this particular LGS. I didn't, at the time. So we're talking about 'Nids, and he's lamenting how bad they are (this was late 4th edition). He loves the models, but he just can't win, the game won't ever let him get into assault, deployment and moving his models is impossible, etc etc etc....

So I ask him to play a game with me, to give the 'Nids a test drive, see where the problems are happening. He gets out this 3x8 foot play surface, and starts deploying all these termagants. I mean ALL these termagants. Like, at least 120+ termagants. And he's deploying them in concentric rings, with each base touching another, as though they're coming in from Deep Strike, right?

Then he's like "See, here's the problem... the units can't move past each other. Each one is like 8-9 inches wide. So i have to line them up one behind the other, and cross the board that way."

That's when I realize he's set up on the short edge and is preparing to march them longways across the 8' table.

I start talking to him about why is he doing that, etc.... he tells me that the guys at the LGS who teach all the new players have all these house rules, about how 2" coherency is only for Imperial models, and all Xeno & Chaos models need to be base-to-base. And about how the game is always played from short end to short end, and how you need at least 50% of your points to be spent in Troops, and on and on and on....

I set my buddy straight on the rules, and all of a sudden he's having fun and playing the game the way it was meant to be played.

I ask the LGS owner about it later on, and without batting an eye, he tells me "Oh yeah, those guys who play Guard come in every week. They don't like having to share the tables, so they just teach new guys the wrong rules on purpose, so they lose really hard and never come back. That way there's no competition for table space."

Turns out there were like 3 or 4 Imperial Guard players who tried to drive new players away so they could monopolize table space. They told all the new guys to set up at the short end of the table, with all their infantry base-to-base, and then each IG guy dropped like 5, 6 Basilisks on the table, destroyed the new guys, and sent them packing.

Worst 40K experience, knowing that tools like that were ever welcome back in that LGS.

 Ulf wrote:
My worst 40K experience....

There was this tiny LGS where I used to live. Only had 2 gaming tables, so they were sort of hotly contested, and it was tough to get a game. You basically had to sign up ahead of time and reserve table space. No problem so far, right?

So a buddy of mine was just getting into 40K, and playing Tyranids. He played at this particular LGS. I didn't, at the time. So we're talking about 'Nids, and he's lamenting how bad they are (this was late 4th edition). He loves the models, but he just can't win, the game won't ever let him get into assault, deployment and moving his models is impossible, etc etc etc....

So I ask him to play a game with me, to give the 'Nids a test drive, see where the problems are happening. He gets out this 3x8 foot play surface, and starts deploying all these termagants. I mean ALL these termagants. Like, at least 120+ termagants. And he's deploying them in concentric rings, with each base touching another, as though they're coming in from Deep Strike, right?

Then he's like "See, here's the problem... the units can't move past each other. Each one is like 8-9 inches wide. So i have to line them up one behind the other, and cross the board that way."

That's when I realize he's set up on the short edge and is preparing to march them longways across the 8' table.

I start talking to him about why is he doing that, etc.... he tells me that the guys at the LGS who teach all the new players have all these house rules, about how 2" coherency is only for Imperial models, and all Xeno & Chaos models need to be base-to-base. And about how the game is always played from short end to short end, and how you need at least 50% of your points to be spent in Troops, and on and on and on....

I set my buddy straight on the rules, and all of a sudden he's having fun and playing the game the way it was meant to be played.

I ask the LGS owner about it later on, and without batting an eye, he tells me "Oh yeah, those guys who play Guard come in every week. They don't like having to share the tables, so they just teach new guys the wrong rules on purpose, so they lose really hard and never come back. That way there's no competition for table space."

Turns out there were like 3 or 4 Imperial Guard players who tried to drive new players away so they could monopolize table space. They told all the new guys to set up at the short end of the table, with all their infantry base-to-base, and then each IG guy dropped like 5, 6 Basilisks on the table, destroyed the new guys, and sent them packing.

Worst 40K experience, knowing that tools like that were ever welcome back in that LGS.

That's just... WHY WAS THE OWNER OKAY WITH THAT? They're driving customers, money-spending customers, away!

 flukezor wrote:
My experience isn't any where near as bad as most here, but recently I had a game set up for me by a friend at 1500 points.

I told him that I wanted to use only painted my painted models (Ultramarines) and that it was wildly low level in power. So I asked him to let my opponent know and to just bring something fun and at that level so the game would be interesting.

Then on the day he shows up with a very competitive top tier KDK army.

It was not only very obvious I had lost (not really worried about losing) but it was more the fact I was very excited to get a game in only to be met with a "net list" and not have an enjoyable game.

I don't have anything against competitive players but I know its not what I enjoy. I know I wont be playing with him again as I don't think he understood that it wasn't fun for both parties, what arguably is the most important part of playing the game right?

Same thing happened to me. I had the marines from the black reach set and got them all painted and based wanting to try them out. My aunts friend has a gamer group and they practices for ternaments on the reg. His 5th ed Nids were ternament vets. He dropped in his brain bugs to block line of site of my marines, the brain bugs killed a large amount and the pods tenticals killed more. Next turn i deep struck terminators with warlord but the blast got them all. I didnt make a single save. His genestealers flanked right behind me and on turn 3 I was tabled. He had more gaunts then he started with and i couldn't kill anything else.

@JNA: He was more or less OK with the idea that he could sell beginners starter armies before they left. Plus I guess these Guard guys were regulars who spent a LOT of money there, judging by what they put on the table. But that's mostly speculation on my part. I never really frequented the store.