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Wow that is wild

I know the focus is on mech right now, but every time I see this thread has updates I find myself disappointed it wasn't recon or specific legion marines.

Is there even a point to doing legion specific marines in this scale? The models are tiny for infantry

 Overread wrote:
Is there even a point to doing legion specific marines in this scale? The models are tiny for infantry

It depends on the infantry. Obviously unique weapons like chainglaives on night raptors are gonna be easier to model than some units.

At the very least we should have the Emperor & The Primarchs, with their all time number one hit We DID Start The Fire.

Thralls look like tall as Astartes. Maybe is the unlucky picture, they are painted with a dark tone too.

Edit: That infantry base on the right are Thralls? I see something golden like an axe.

Well spotted team! Nice to see that there is more than just the battlegroup models in the book and actually pretty much the whole Mechanicum range (plus the traitor stuff!), better than it being parcelled out over multiple books...


Legion-specific / specialist marines are the sort of thing you'd think we might see in FW resin - though I guess that might show up the quality of the plastic infantry figures... Probably said before, but I am genuinely amazed we've not had any resin releases for LI at all - surely primarchs, specialists, etc would make sense in resin over plastic anyway?

The blurry Krios doesn’t seem to be the Venator. A friend has suggested it’s got a Rad weapon mounted.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The blurry Krios doesn’t seem to be the Venator. A friend has suggested it’s got a Rad weapon mounted.

One of the least-commented on changes in the recent (28mm scale) HH Mechanicum supplement was the addition of a rad weapon option.

So least-commented on, I’ve got that book and didn’t even notice 🤣

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So least-commented on, I’ve got that book and didn’t even notice 🤣

I was legit beginning to wonder if I’m the only one other than the author who knows it’s there…

You, the author and my friend it would seem!

Ooh, it’s rather nasty, isn’t it? Hellstorm is welcome enough on such a small chassis, but the beam can microwave the contents of Transports.

 1984Phantom wrote:
Thralls look like tall as Astartes. Maybe is the unlucky picture, they are painted with a dark tone too.

Edit: That infantry base on the right are Thralls? I see something golden like an axe.

Myrmidon Secutors.

Piousservant wrote:

Well spotted team! Nice to see that there is more than just the battlegroup models in the book and actually pretty much the whole Mechanicum range (plus the traitor stuff!), better than it being parcelled out over multiple books...

Agreed.

Although I'll be getting this one primarily for the dedicated T&K army rules, its nice to have the Mech stuff as a big bonus for allied support. If I were a Marine or Solar player, I wouldn't venture beyond the core book and would probably have gone for the card sets instead. Use them - if possible - until the inevitable Marine and Solar compendiums are introduced.

Worth keeping in the mind core rulebook offered up a solid, if still incomplete, number of Marine and Auxilia units. Certainly enough to build a fairly flexible force.

So I expect the new book to do the same for Mechanicum and Dark Mechanicum, with further units to come later.

Oh I don't doubt there will be more Mechanicum to follow, but it looks like we're going to have the entire 30k range in LI from the off which is pretty nice. And don't get me wrong, the marine range is much bigger so I wouldn't have expected it to have all been in the main book but equally there were some pretty core bits missing (and some - artillery and real super heavies - still awol).

Real question though - is 4 sets of the manufactorum terrain excessive? Well, 5 really as I've already got one regular box of it... I was planning to get 1-2 boxes more and it kinda seems like if I were to end up buying 2 regular boxes which are directly only, would be a bit stupid not just to have bought the sector box at effectively a double discount (it being discounted in the box and also available from retailers). Or anyone in the UK interested in splitting a box lol?

Odd to me how the manufactorum normally direct only gets a general release in the big box and the titans which are available normally don't, but maybe thats by design? Will be interested to see what the price of the titan battlegroup is, for me personally it needs to be quite a decent saving over what I can buy the models for from a retailer for it to be worth buying in one go.

Piousservant wrote:
Oh I don't doubt there will be more Mechanicum to follow, but it looks like we're going to have the entire 30k range in LI from the off which is pretty nice. And don't get me wrong, the marine range is much bigger so I wouldn't have expected it to have all been in the main book but equally there were some pretty core bits missing (and some - artillery and real super heavies - still awol).

Real question though - is 4 sets of the manufactorum terrain excessive? Well, 5 really as I've already got one regular box of it... I was planning to get 1-2 boxes more and it kinda seems like if I were to end up buying 2 regular boxes which are directly only, would be a bit stupid not just to have bought the sector box at effectively a double discount (it being discounted in the box and also available from retailers). Or anyone in the UK interested in splitting a box lol?

Odd to me how the manufactorum normally direct only gets a general release in the big box and the titans which are available normally don't, but maybe thats by design? Will be interested to see what the price of the titan battlegroup is, for me personally it needs to be quite a decent saving over what I can buy the models for from a retailer for it to be worth buying in one go.

I'm in the same position about the Manufactorum box as you and I'm just going to buy one. With my retailer prices its going to be the same price as two normal ones from GW direct but for four full sets.
I'm just going to try and sell 1-2 sets off and if that doesn't work I can still use them as basing for my titans.

For the Titan and Knights sets its actually only half that is available normally the Warlord and Reaver are both the direct only versions and the Cerastus Lancer is also direct only. Only the Cerastus Acheron and Castigator set is available at retailers.
But still sad about them being direct only, I planned to get both but now I'm only going to get the Titan one instead

Another Heresy article today (not tagged as Heresy Thursday), Mechanicum fluff:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/lf6zwsum/dark-mechanicum-lore-who-are-the-renegade-tech-magi-making-the-terrifying-stalkers/

Maybe that is all we're getting today? Possibly some hints though, the final picture has a mechancium knight - maybe coming in plastic...? We can but hope!

 Matrindur wrote:

I'm in the same position about the Manufactorum box as you and I'm just going to buy one. With my retailer prices its going to be the same price as two normal ones from GW direct but for four full sets.
I'm just going to try and sell 1-2 sets off and if that doesn't work I can still use them as basing for my titans.

For the Titan and Knights sets its actually only half that is available normally the Warlord and Reaver are both the direct only versions and the Cerastus Lancer is also direct only. Only the Cerastus Acheron and Castigator set is available at retailers.
But still sad about them being direct only, I planned to get both but now I'm only going to get the Titan one instead

Yeah that's a good point, for some reason in my head I thought both Reavers were available from retailers. I kind of have enough titans and weapon options I'm not too fussed about which Warlord I get though, though I do want another one so we'll see how much it ends up being.

So I guess no proper heresy Thursday article?

Did they cover Blackshield rules in the previous LI books?

Nope. No blackshield rules at all.

I suppose it is a bit early for those kind of rules. Cheers.

Not sure how Blackshields would work in LI?

Well, in AT it was basically an ability and a list of can-and-cannot-haves for the available allegiances. Nothing that fancy to be honest.

They’d have to give up a lot of vehicles but gain a bunch of esoteric infantry weapons. But how to actually represent that is difficult. Bonus CAF when fighting certain types of enemy?

Going back to AT the Titans have "decentralised command" where orders can be given to titans not in a maniple( if a maniple titan fails a check ). Knights would have the nifty choice of "giant killer" where they're more useful against larger foes, "xenos sympathiser" which gives them access to better shield technology, and "freeblade king" where knights in a banner can arm themselves as they please.

That kind of thing. Not sure how they went about Blackshields in HH.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
They’d have to give up a lot of vehicles but gain a bunch of esoteric infantry weapons. But how to actually represent that is difficult. Bonus CAF when fighting certain types of enemy?

Could be relatively mix and match traits, whilst losing out on certain options etc.

Hats off to the maniac who edge highlighted individual epic marines! Looks great, but absolute madness.

Sonsoftherock wrote:
Hats off to the maniac who edge highlighted individual epic marines! Looks great, but absolute madness.

Is....is that not normal?

No. Everyone knows the well known public fact that’s known by everyone that the release of Contrast Paints was so anyone could paint Epic Scale with ease, and still get decent result.

Actual factuality of fact presented as more factually accurate and that actual factually accurate status of not very factually accurate at all.