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Post by: hancock.tom
Had a slightly hilarious experience at a local game store on Sunday. I went down to play 40K, my first time playing in this store.
As I am getting my army out of the case and organized, a guy I don't know walks up and compliments me on my paint job and strikes up a conversation about some green stuff work I did, etc. Seems like an OK enough guy, late 30s or so. Next thing you know, he is casually picking up my rhinos without my permission. New game store, I think, I just won't say anything and hope for the best. I don't want to get a reputation as an arsehole the first time I visit. Well, of course he breaks one of the hatches on top of my rhino. No big deal, I say to him, and I tell him I will glue it back later. I take the rhino from him. What does he do? He proceeds to begin picking up my plague marines by their CCWs, many of which are converted... At that point I asked him to put them down because I am worried about other stuff coming unglued. He says "geez, OK" like I was being oversensitive about it. He had already broken one model! 
Next time I am just going to ask him (or anyone else) WTF they think they are doing if they start picking up my stuff without asking!
Anyway, I just thought I would share this story and see if anyone else had any horror stories to share.
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Post by: Frazzled
You'll find most Dakka veterans bring along a useful tool for these types of situations. 
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Post by: grizgrin
Had a kid accidentally dump a coke into about 4,000 points of BA once. Total, total accident, saw it happen; but damn it took some control to keep it together.
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Post by: warpcrafter
Stories like this is why I don't take my minis out until I'm ready to put them on the table to play. A bit of paranoia can save you a lot of headache.
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Post by: Nomog
After getting my Pain Boy needles bent time and time again by kids picking them up by the weapon I finally got some payback last Apoc game.
I had already replaced them with small metal rod that had an extremely pointed end from me cutting them to size. I left them because they looked better with a little off set cut to the end.
After asking a child to please stop picking up the models on the table (we were in the middle of a game) and putting them back in the wrong place I received some attitude from the mother about what harm could he do.....seconds later he broke the roll bar off of not one but two ork trukks.
Before I could teach him a new word he moved over to my boyz nob, guess what he grabbed? Yup....the pain boy. When the mother saw his little finger bleeding she proceeded to yell at me! The red shirt kindly explained I had asked her little ones several times to please not handle the models and he had already broken two.
I hadn't intended that to happen but sometimes what goes around comes around.
BTW, my 8 year old plays with the same orks all the time and has never cut himself, know why? He listened and doesn't pick them up by the weapon.
I'm getting tired of being other children's parents.
Rant off....sorry.
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Post by: hancock.tom
At least they were kids. The perpetrator in my case was late 30s at least.
What possesses people to pick up models by the weapon, anyway? It seems so natural to so many people but it is the last thing I would think of to pick up a model with.
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Post by: grizgrin
I do it with my models. Because I know which ones to do it with and which ones not to. Like the Balrog, for instance...
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Post by: Nomog
I always pick up by the body...better safe then sorry....that and I can't remember what I pinned and what I didn't.
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Post by: Warlord Imp
I like it when people ask permission to pick up other peoples models. Once a kid picked up a friends Land Raider and walked away with it. Hahahaha! What that kids was thinking was beyond us but the land raider never left the guys sight again. And I also need to mention the Laind Raider was only primed black. So, there was no paint job to look at.
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Post by: LunaHound
-I always ask befor touching someone's minis
-Im more careful with other's posession than my own ( i treat it like im handling a rare diamond or something )
-I always try to pick them up by the base , unless its too heavy and it might slip off.
-That or i slide it closer to table edge and just look at it up close without touching.
With that said , i hate it when people eat pizza and touch my minis.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Some Ancients players like to replace the spears in their pike blocks with real pins in order to save elbow on table damages.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Now show me on the unpainted terminator where he touched you...
I have always made it clear that there is one penalty for such crimes, as one foolish imp (in his late teens) at our FLGS some years back found on picking up my Teronus The Ultimate Dragon by his very heavy and unstable wings, upon which, Teronus proceeded to break perfectly back into all separate pieces as he connected with the floor... On seeing the look in my eye (I was but 20 at that time and far more prone to violent outbursts), the store owner leapt in between us, picked up the teen over his shoulder, marched outside, put the teen down and banned his ass from the gaming room for 3 months, marched back in and gave me a voucher for £10 and sat with me after closing to help me put poor old Teronus back together again.
DONT TOUCH MY GAK>>>OMFG>>>SLAY!!!!!!
Oh, here is a picture of Teronus, made by Grenadier way back when...
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tpope/sol/grenadier/images/2525.jpg
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Post by: RxGhost
There's a dude that hangs out at our FLGS who breaks other peoples' stuff with such regularity that his name has become the verb we associate with people breaking other dudes' stuff.
Like, let's say his name is "John" (it's not, but we need an example), so if some breaks something, they have "John'd" it. The owner of the store, who is one of "John's" friends, seems to bear the brunt of this crime, for example: "John" has "John'd" the same Devastator w/Plasma Cannon 3 times.
Once he stepped on the FLGS Owner's Xbox360 and broke the faceplate off...and he goes up to the front of the store to tell the FLGSO and when he does, head hanging low and full of embarassment and shame, he gets this response for the FLGSO about the incident: "John", I'm not angry that you broke mah'box because I figured it was just a matter of time. This alone should tell you what you need to change."
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Post by: Archonate
Nomog wrote:After getting my Pain Boy needles bent time and time again by kids picking them up by the weapon I finally got some payback last Apoc game.
I had already replaced them with small metal rod that had an extremely pointed end from me cutting them to size. I left them because they looked better with a little off set cut to the end.
After asking a child to please stop picking up the models on the table (we were in the middle of a game) and putting them back in the wrong place I received some attitude from the mother about what harm could he do.....seconds later he broke the roll bar off of not one but two ork trukks.
Before I could teach him a new word he moved over to my boyz nob, guess what he grabbed? Yup....the pain boy. When the mother saw his little finger bleeding she proceeded to yell at me! The red shirt kindly explained I had asked her little ones several times to please not handle the models and he had already broken two.
I hadn't intended that to happen but sometimes what goes around comes around.
BTW, my 8 year old plays with the same orks all the time and has never cut himself, know why? He listened and doesn't pick them up by the weapon.
I'm getting tired of being other children's parents.
Rant off....sorry.
This story fills me with rage. Both toward the mother and her slowed spawn.
It seems that some time shortly after my generation, a majority parents mutually decided to not only let their children run wild doing whatever they want, but also fiercely defend said child from anyone telling them to knock it off. Ultimately not only refusing to parent, but also getting angry when somebody is forced to step in and parent in their behalf.
On topic: Never had a child mess with my stuff. I'm deliberately intimidating when they come around. But I have had grown men walk up right next to me (during my turn, mind you) lean over right in front of me so their head is in my way and their face is 5 inches from the model I was about to use, knock the model over so they could see the paint job, linger, and finally wander off while I'm left speechless at their unmitigated audacity.
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Post by: Fafnir
I've had children look at my models before, but on those times they all asked before they touched. As I've gotten better at painting, and as more time has become invested in each miniature, I'd imagine I'd be more reluctant, but so long as they hold the mini by the base, and don't damage it, I don't mind.
If you want to see my minis, all I ask is that you ask politely, and that, upon recieving permission, you be careful about it.
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Post by: Cheese Elemental
Once when I was in the FLGS about to start a game of 40k with my Orks against someone with Space Marines, a bunch of kids from a painting class on the other side of the battle bunker came over and just grabbed my Ghazghkull models and started fiddling with him, and bits of him were coming off! What's worse, they were scraping at the paint to see how thick it was and they had greasy fingers from eating doritos. Before I could even yell at them to stop, Ghazzie was covered in cheesy grease, fingerprints, and a lot of the paint was gone.
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Post by: combatmedic
the most vivid experience I'v had has was in the middle of a game, a kid picked up two of my terminators, off the play field mind you, and proceeded to smash them together in a battle of adolescent stupidity and Cheeto finger mayhem. One of the Termies assault cannons snapped, and the others power sword popped off.
I pulled them out of his hands and got to his eye level, and said as softly as I could, "The next time I see you Im going to rip off your hands and shove them so far up your nose you'll be smelling Cheetos till your 50."
Kid never came back.
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
There's a guy in our store that nobody likes, he is always coming around and handling models. Once during a game he leaned on the wrong end of a table (4x6 plyboard on a smaller table) and almost dumped both armies on the floor. After doing it AGAIN I yelled at him to stop and go away.
To make up for it after the game he started "helping" me pack up my models, by picking up my guardians by the handfull and handing them to me. I yelled again for him to stop touching my fething models! The rest of the group was waiting for me to drag him outside and beat the crap out of him.
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Post by: Vindicator#9
Man i sure am glad i play this game with MATURE ADULTS now. I have seen plenty of kids break these models at the other store i used to play at that is why i only let the ones who ask and treat their own models really well pick up or touch my minis. The guys story with the kid who cut himself on a mini is hilarious.
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Post by: Mastiff
MeanGreenStompa wrote:Now show me on the unpainted terminator where he touched you...
I have always made it clear that there is one penalty for such crimes, as one foolish imp (in his late teens) at our FLGS some years back found on picking up my Teronus The Ultimate Dragon by his very heavy and unstable wings, upon which, Teronus proceeded to break perfectly back into all separate pieces as he connected with the floor... On seeing the look in my eye (I was but 20 at that time and far more prone to violent outbursts), the store owner leapt in between us, picked up the teen over his shoulder, marched outside, put the teen down and banned his ass from the gaming room for 3 months, marched back in and gave me a voucher for £10 and sat with me after closing to help me put poor old Teronus back together again.
DONT TOUCH MY GAK>>>OMFG>>>SLAY!!!!!!
Oh, here is a picture of Teronus, made by Grenadier way back when...
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tpope/sol/grenadier/images/2525.jpg
Lol! Sorry about the damage, but the pic just sums up your response perfectly 
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Post by: Fafnir
Cheese Elemental wrote:Once when I was in the FLGS about to start a game of 40k with my Orks against someone with Space Marines, a bunch of kids from a painting class on the other side of the battle bunker came over and just grabbed my Ghazghkull models and started fiddling with him, and bits of him were coming off! What's worse, they were scraping at the paint to see how thick it was and they had greasy fingers from eating doritos. Before I could even yell at them to stop, Ghazzie was covered in cheesy grease, fingerprints, and a lot of the paint was gone.
10 hours of work went into my Ghazzie, if any kid dared do something like that, even touch it with his disgusting fingers, I'd snap. In fact, that battle bunker probably wouldn't have my business anymore.
combatmedic wrote:the most vivid experience I'v had has was in the middle of a game, a kid picked up two of my terminators, off the play field mind you, and proceeded to smash them together in a battle of adolescent stupidity and Cheeto finger mayhem. One of the Termies assault cannons snapped, and the others power sword popped off.
I pulled them out of his hands and got to his eye level, and said as softly as I could, "The next time I see you Im going to rip off your hands and shove them so far up your nose you'll be smelling Cheetos till your 50."
Kid never came back.
You showed a lot of restraint. I would have slapped that kid around. I have no tolerance for gaks like that. Even less for their piss-poor simalacrums of parents.
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Post by: artyboy
I'm glad that kids don't show up at my FLGS. I'll admit that I'm not very patient with people who insist on handling my models, especially without my permission.
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Post by: Old Man Ultramarine
Years ago at my FLGS I was running a 40k demo to recruit new players. I decided to use my freshly painted Blood Angels Land Raider. Sure as some kid picks it up to get a closer look and fumbles it. It hit concrete floor and pieces flew. My friends who were sitting at table swear my face was more red than the Land Raider.
Ahh the damned kids who don't have a clue at how we cherish da dollies 
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Post by: avantgarde
I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.
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Post by: Neil
At a recent tournament, the two paint judges came up during a game to judge painting. One judge accidentally bumped the table and knocked my bloodthirster off. The other painting judge instinctively tried to catch it.. with his foot.. and punted it across the room 
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Post by: Fafnir
avantgarde wrote:I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.
donkey-cave
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Post by: Old Man Ultramarine
avantgarde wrote:I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.
The geek should hunt you down or steal the chick from your ass!
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Post by: Wayfarer
That sounds like the truest story I've ever heard!
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Post by: person person
I've sat on my brother's Ghazkhgull, that he put on a STOOL!!!
He bought it off some guy already painted, and was already massively chipped thanks to not owning proper case for an unsealed metal model. So not as bad as Cheese's situation.
My brother then bought some Black orcs to convert for 40k, he made the drummer for the hell of it, his name was Little drummer boy. Then via strange architecture of house, I dropped him into the X-mas tree. Didn't break. Couldn't find him for a month, though.
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Post by: Belphegor
avantgarde: I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.
... " don't you mean an art?"
On Topic
I've had to snap at a few people during space hulk nights (1st ed) for grabbing a fistful of genestealers.... not only did they scratch the paint, but getting those figs abart is like playing with a barrel full of monkeys (the kids toys that used to come in reb barrels).
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Post by: BrookM
I tend to get a little angry and edgy when people eye my Elysians a little too much. Sure they may have a crap paint job but they are made of fragile resin. ESPECIALLY THE BARRELS OF MY SNIPER RIFLES. 
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I thought I didn't have this problem and no one every 'picked up' my models, but then I remembered that as someone who sometimes provides entire armies for people to use, hardly a gaming day or weekend goes by where someone doesn't break something of mine.
It's gotten to the point where it's become a running gag for a few of my friends - they're always breaking my stuff.
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Post by: Goliath
At my school they decided to allow warhammer as a Games option (instead of football or hockey) on the first session I was the only person who bought paints AND models, So I lent my Warriors of Minas Tirith to the little kiddies to paint, and also lent out my paints.
half of the models ended irrepairably damaged, or so over painted that there was no detail.
My Graveyard Earth, Elf Flesh and Dark Angels green disappeared (I actually know who took the elf flesh, but he kept on "forgetting" to return it), AND some donkey-cave poured the mithril silver out of the pot over the models.
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Post by: Shinigami
One guy out of the four I regularly play with has broken a vast amount of my models, to the point that if he touches a breakable mini I go into full ninja mode ready to catch it or slap him about if I fail. You know who you are. |D
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Post by: Alex Kolodotschko
God has a funny sense of humour doesn't he. What was he thinking giving gamers, inherently awkward creatures, such fragile things.
I quite often host Necromunda games on a wobbly table where the scenery reaches up to 2ft tall. Needless to say all my gangs are truely knacked.
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Post by: Shinigami
Too true, I've seen someone holding a Pirhanna in both hands suddenly jerk and fling it across the room. It was ok though.
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Post by: Wolfstan
Don't do GW models I find that non GW models fail to compute in the heads of anybody under the age if 18, so not picked up on their radar
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Post by: lord_blackfang
I'm very respectful of other people's models, but I did manage to drop someone's entire army of CSM on the floor once. And drop a heavy plywood board on top of them to boot.
Yeah.
He had finished his game and I was going to move the table away to make room for my own. I just didn't realize that he had suspended the middle of the three 2x4' boards between two smaller tables. For extra irony, I first moved all of his models to this middle board. Then moved the table from underneath it...
Oddly enough very few pieces broke. Some tank hatches, a few arms here and there... needless to say I gave him new bitz for everything that needed fixing, plus 20 NIB Orks (the army he was building at the time) as means of apology.
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Post by: Emmkay
I think my worst one was this:
I had a homemade carry case (tool box with foam). Thing about it was you had to open in a certain way to prevent all the foam falling out.
My oppoents brother comes in and says "Can I see your DE models?" "Sure I'll get them out the case in a second" "Naw its ok I'll get them..."
Cue Talos 2 Raiders and 6 Jetbikes falling to the floor.
Oh and did I say this was in a kitchen, so i was a TILED floor.
At this point he fled the room.
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Post by: HellsGuardian316
If they are really young then I tell them they are electric and will shock them if they touch it. They obviously doubt me so cautiously touch the model where I then shout "Bang" in a low loud voice that 99/100 makes them jump.
The poeple around find it funny so I don't get much gripe from the parents and the dads usually find it funny anyhow even if the mum doesn't. The kids usually get the hint that I'm a meanie and isn't interested in my models anymore. Everyones a winner.
As far as adults go I never really get any issues, they always ask if they can have a look at specific models and handle them carefully. I've only ever had things broken when I either haven't glued them correct or used blue tack then testing a new loudout for something or during a actual game.
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Post by: Genoside07
I am glad to hear I am not the only one that this happens too..
Years ago when I first got into Tau, I had bought a Forge World commander at Games day for my leader. Had him nicely glued together on a flight base. Having never used Tau, A buddy's Cousin (a person I find now very iterating now) told me he had used Tau many times and would team up with me in our game to help me out with the rules. During the game I found he didn't have a clue about the rules, tactics or Tau. Then to end it, when the Commander got killed he went to pick up the model then dropped it, then he dropped it again trying to move it off the table, Told him that was OK, (it wasn't, I was being nice) Then when I was going to pick up the dropped model, he picked up again for a third time, AND HE DROPPED IT AGAIN. This time falling to the floor. That time I yelled "Leave it" like I would yell at my dog. Now I know years later that the guy has a bad case of butterfingers.
This didn't happen to me, but earlier in the year we had a big Apocalypse game on multiple tables at a local Comic Con. Half way through the game there was a kid that was 8-10 years old that walked up to one of the tables and started picking up models and moving them around like playing his own little battle game. The owning player was standing just a few feet away from him and I was two tables away.. The guy never noticed the kid until I walked over and told the kid to "cut it out". The kid gave me a dirty look and walked off. (Where was the parents ? - You guessed it - MIA) The owning player looked down saw what the kid did and said "Well Crap", we found nothing was really damaged luckily, but the guys at the table then had to agree on how to place the models back out.. (the kid had pulled some models out of his dead stack also which made it worse)
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Post by: Marauder
You know the model that you painstakingly build and took a month painting and came out outstanding, the one that everyone comments on how amazing it looks.
I was at my local store playing a game my Deamons against SM's and had my Greater Deamon on the table waiting to deep strike him into the game when my friend got a call so we decided to take a 10min break so he could finish his call.
So as I go to grab a soda from the front counter a father and his young son came in and was looking around at everything. I start to walk back to my table when I see the guy reach down to pickup my GD to get a closer look at it. I hear his young son say to him Dad you just don't pick peoples stuff up you have to ask them first. The GD being held at eye level somehow manages to slip out of his hands fall hit the edge of the table on the way down with parts coming off and then the guy I guess tried to use his foot to stop it from hitting the floor managed to kick it hard enough it goes under the table and hit the wall.
I think my heart stopped for a min as everyone in the store turns to look at this guy and he says oops sorry I will buy you a new toy and ask me if twenty was enough to cover it. I really di not know what to say at this point other than no it cost me alot more than just for the Toy not counting the hours I spent painting it.
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Post by: Old Man Ultramarine
These stories are simply brutal.
People just coming up, not giving a rat's ass, picking up model's to look at, model's that have been lovingly assembled, painted, and coddled like the owner's first born. There is only one conclusion that could happen. It's dropped and in some cases more damage applied from apologetic people trying to rescue. 
To many of you, I suggest growling when anyone comes within 10 feet of table.
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Post by: HellsGuardian316
Edited own post as on hindsight, thought it was inappropriate
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Sadly its one of those things where you want models shown off to people because they can see them, admire them and inspire them not only to start the hobby but also to get idea's from your own hard work. But sadly many poeple treat them like toys, manhandling them and generally being careful.
Obviously being a hobbiest myself, when ever i pick up someones model after asking, I also hold it upright by its base, or firmly on my palm so it won't slip or slide. I generally ask others to do the same though I'm not bothered how they pick up my infantry as mine are very stable no matter what you hold it by. "Go marines Hurr"
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Post by: SilverMK2
I drop enough of my own models to know never to touch other peoples.
I just have a look from the edge of the table. If I really want to look closely at someones model, I ask them if I can have a look.
I will often then place it 6 inches or so from the edge of the table and bend down to look at it, perhaps picking it and turning it if there is a bit that I want to look at more.
Then I will say thanks, and either move it closer to them so they can pick it up and put it back where they want, or will let them just pick it up.
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Post by: M_Stress
avantgarde wrote:I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.
That is not a good story.
Not good, nor cool.
Actually, it's a shame. You know, like: the painful feeling arising from the consciousness of something dishonorable, improper, done by oneself or another. Yeah, that's it: shame
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
M_Stress wrote:avantgarde wrote:I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.
That is not a good story.
Not good, nor cool.
Actually, it's a shame. You know, like: the painful feeling arising from the consciousness of something dishonorable, improper, done by oneself or another. Yeah, that's it: shame
Actually, what I suspect Stress, is that young scamp avantgarde has laid what we in the trade refer to as a nerdrage trap, designed to elicit angry responses and internet threads of violence from people hundreds or thousands of miles away from him who have no idea what he looks like. Do kindly step around it and refrain from falling into it's intended purpose... 
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Post by: Wolfgang
avantgarde wrote:I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.
Mate, that's not cool and certainly no way to pick up a woman, I feel sorry for the guy you harassed, he probably walks about now constantly looking over his shoulder in case the same things happens again.
*I just noticed MeanGreenStompa's mesage* I don't normally reply like this but the post really got my goat as it has happened to me before and it's not fun*
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Post by: Augustus
Unsupervised Children!
A certain customer at my LGS brings his 2 children, they are like 5 and 6 maybe?
AT one point, the unspuervised kid ran over to the game my friend and I were playing and picked up my friends Chaos Landraider and terminators and started playing with them like GI Joe toys, stacking them up and moving them around.
Later, after my friend amazing politely asked the kid to stop, he kept saying excuse me, excuse me, excuse me to ask to play with them again. My friend ignored him, until the child said to both of us:
WHEN I SAY EXCUSE ME IT MEANS YOU BE QUIET AND LISTEN TO ME.
I was shocked to hear that from a 5 year old, I am 33 and my friend is a 40 year old father of 2...
I complained to the store manager who threw them out. Amazingly the models survived the brutality of being man handled and dropped, because they were plastic!
To this day I amazed at the patience my friend showed!
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Augustus wrote:
WHEN I SAY EXCUSE ME IT MEANS YOU BE QUIET AND LISTEN TO ME.
He learnt that off his parents no doubt. I'd have been calling the father over to deal with it. It really isn't down to the kid when you're talking about a 5 year old, the bloody parents need to get it the feth together and take some fething responsibility.
If I'd have spoken to strangers in that way at that age, I would have had my behind tanned.
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Post by: Bookwrack
This one time when I was still a kid, I came out of the GW store in the mall carrying my army in an open box, when a couple of jerks from school grabbed a bunch of my models and started playing keepaway with them.
I never did get all of them back.
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Post by: Wolfgang
MeanGreenStompa wrote:Augustus wrote:
WHEN I SAY EXCUSE ME IT MEANS YOU BE QUIET AND LISTEN TO ME.
He learnt that off his parents no doubt. I'd have been calling the father over to deal with it. It really isn't down to the kid when you're talking about a 5 year old, the bloody parents need to get it the feth together and take some fething responsibility.
If I'd have spoken to strangers in that way at that age, I would have had my behind tanned.
Don't mean to go off topic but something like this happened the other week, me and my young daughter were just coming back on a bus from a visit to the local GW (You will be please to know she is 2 and a half and loves GW and she is very well behaved and always says Please may I look at the Dragons, and daddy has promised to paint her a pink dragon) anyway we sat in the bus next to a heavily pregnant lady and these to young kids must have been about 5 or six said "This is my seat move" I was shocked! what a society we live in.. and the preganant lady moved as well.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
I used to belong to this geeky kid who kept me and my friends in an open box. This one time as he was leaving a GW store some punk grabbed me and stuffed me in his pocket. A short while later he became quite geeky himself. It's the curse I and my kind bear :(
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Post by: Ketara
Whenever a child attempts to touch a figure of mine, a shout of 'OI!' is sufficent to elicit their attention. Then, when they turn to look at me, a steely glare and the word, 'No.' are usually enough to have them back away. One of the parents started glaring at me for this once, but to be perfectly honest, they can be as hacked off as they like. I'd just spent the last week painting that Astropath, like hell am I letting Grubby Mcfingers near it.
Despite careful handling, I once broke a guys crisis battle suit once when I was 15. I made up for it though by immediately going to the counter, buying a pot of glue, and offering to repair it for him. When he declined, I told him to keep the glue as compensation for me having made him waste his time repairing it.
That's the kind of behaviour I would expect from anyone who broke a model of mine. I don't mind suitably competent older gamers handling my stuff, but little 5 year old Grubby Mcfingers should stay well away.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Wolfgang wrote:
Don't mean to go off topic but something like this happened the other week, me and my young daughter were just coming back on a bus from a visit to the local GW (You will be please to know she is 2 and a half and loves GW and she is very well behaved and always says Please may I look at the Dragons, and daddy has promised to paint her a pink dragon) anyway we sat in the bus next to a heavily pregnant lady and these to young kids must have been about 5 or six said "This is my seat move" I was shocked! what a society we live in.. and the preganant lady moved as well.
Again, a word with the parent. Ignore the child or if it persists and the parent refuses to take action, bellow at it after silently ignoring it for a long time, a little fear of strangers is healthy for children.
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Post by: Augustus
Indeed.
My friends gentle kindness was rewarded with the kid not leaving. Honestly, I am mean to children on purpose. I don't go to my LGS to babysit. If they think I am a scary guy, that's perfect.
Cooing voices and gentle chides are not sufficient consequences.
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Post by: RxGhost
One time an eight-year old broke one of my minis, and I unleashed a rolling suplex on him, just like my mentor, Armor King, taught me.
I gave him back to his parents, broken, tangled and torn, with a bottle of super glue and some insta set spray.
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Post by: Marauder
Worst thing at my store is that the kids are well behaved and always ask to look at the models, not even to hold them just for me to show it to them closer. The parents both of them will grab whatever look at it comment on how crappy something looks and throw it back on the table.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Nomog wrote:After asking a child to please stop picking up the models on the table ... guess what he grabbed? Yup....the pain boy. When the mother saw his little finger bleeding she proceeded to yell at me! The red shirt kindly explained I had asked her little ones several times to please not handle the models and he had already broken two.
You should have demanded compensation for the part they broke. Just like in a china shop, you break, you buy. As she's responsible for her kids, then she should compensate you for damage. Then, criticize her for being a bad parent, an irresponsible, negligent, and unfit parent. Kids shouldn't be running wild, and it's the parent's job to ensure that doesn't happen. The kids don't know except what they're taught by their parents, and that's not your job in life. It's her job. If she does a bad job teaching her kids to behave with other people's stuff, and it causes you problems, it's fair to tell her. ____ That said, there is nothing better than picking up a winged metal Hive Tyrant BY THE TIPS OF THE WINGS!
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Post by: John
Cheese Elemental wrote:Once when I was in the FLGS about to start a game of 40k with my Orks against someone with Space Marines, a bunch of kids from a painting class on the other side of the battle bunker came over and just grabbed my Ghazghkull models and started fiddling with him, and bits of him were coming off! What's worse, they were scraping at the paint to see how thick it was and they had greasy fingers from eating doritos. Before I could even yell at them to stop, Ghazzie was covered in cheesy grease, fingerprints, and a lot of the paint was gone.
But, isn't that what authentic orks look like? Greasy food covered bodies, dirty, and chipped paint on everything? He was just helping you out with more realistic effects.
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Post by: gardeth
Back in my first year of warhammer (fantasy) a few of us where setting up for a couple of games when a kid (no older then 13) walks by and bumps my buddy's (who is in his late 20's) open carrying case on the floor, scattering pieces of dwarves everywhere. The kids response? He looks down at them and then just keeps walking without saying a word. Luckily my friend was sitting at the time, because it gave the rest of us enough time to grab him as he lept out of his chair at the kid. It took 3 of us to restrain him. Luckily the kid took the hint, left the shop and did not come back for over a week.
All of us spent about 2 hours gluing those dwarves back together, and I had a nice bruised rib to show for it as well.
To this day my body seizes up when I hear a case fall in a game store.
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Post by: nathonicus
Not a real horror story, but it certainly bugged me.
I was in a Battle Bunker playing a game with my IG who always get a lot of comments due to unusual color scheme (winter) and custom vehicles. Passers by will often stop and chat for a few and ask how I made the vehicles, which I don't mind when setting up or shooting the breeze, but which becomes a pain when it's the third time you've told the story and you're trying to focus on winning a game.
Anyhow, during the course of this game I became aware that one of the "kids" (probably he was 20) who had been asking, was still standing at my side. As the game went on, he started "helping" me, but moving models in my squads as I started moving them.
I was flabbergasted, and really didn't know what to say other than "Thanks, but I've got it." I was disarmed because he was apparently trying to be nice, but just must never have learned basic social skills...
People are strange.
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Post by: M_Stress
MeanGreenStompa wrote:M_Stress wrote:avantgarde wrote:I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.
That is not a good story.
Not good, nor cool.
Actually, it's a shame. You know, like: the painful feeling arising from the consciousness of something dishonorable, improper, done by oneself or another. Yeah, that's it: shame
Actually, what I suspect Stress, is that young scamp avantgarde has laid what we in the trade refer to as a nerdrage trap, designed to elicit angry responses and internet threads of violence from people hundreds or thousands of miles away from him who have no idea what he looks like. Do kindly step around it and refrain from falling into it's intended purpose...
M. Stompa, you are wiser than I am...
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Post by: Samwise158
As much as it can be a little irritating to have random kids coming up and touching your models, it also is the nature of the game to be fascinating for small kids.
Parents should educate their children not to touch things that don't belong to them, but kids also are known to have poor impulse control. I've found this to be a pretty minor problem for the most part, and feel like yelling at the kid or threatening them is really immature, even if they break a model. They are toys, just for a differently aged user. Accidents happen, I sometimes drop or bend my own models unintentionally. One of the advantages of the hobby is that you can always glue the model back together and it will still work.
There are many different annoying game store behaviors that people engage in, and this one seems relatively minor to me. If a little kid moves around a few pieces on the game board it isn't very big deal to fix, and 9 out of 10 kids will listen to you if you politely ask them to stop or explain the game to them. In the case of a kid who really is obnoxious or wantonly destructive, they usually are old enough to be unsupervised and can quickly find themselves banned from the store if they keep being jerks.
I guess all in all, it seems that having someone break an arm or gun off you model really isn't that big of a deal.
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Post by: RxGhost
No Samwise, there is no mercy; to allow this to grow unchecked and unpunished is double heretical.
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Post by: krusty
yes, let the inquisition smite those that dont punish model breakers efficiently...
nothing to deal with little kids really, but had one of my friends bump my winged tyrant off the table while he was walking by, breaking it into atleast 3 different pieces...
kicker of it was, as i watched him to it from across the store, he insisted it wasnt him when i came over...
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Post by: Delephont
I don't know....I@m wondering if you guys are weighing in like Pee Wee Herman or somthing
If someone side swipes you car, you don't just stare and look flabbergasted, you either kick his ass, or at the very least the dude is paying for the damage....
In every case I've read here, if someone damages something that belongs to me, they replace it....cash or a replacement model...I don't care if the kid is 12 or 44, the rule is the same....if the parents are there, even better...I feel less guilty decking a grown man or woman!
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Post by: Arschbombe
You guys are going to keep me from ever bringing my models to a store. 
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Post by: Mastiff
I've been fortunate to avoid any serious damage in any of my game, and I'm pretty happy to have people take a look at my minis.
I should confess though, that I point out to any potential handlers that my marines have been painted with my own feces. It's how I get that unique brownish-copper hue. Few people bother to pick them up after that.
/shrug.
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Post by: RxGhost
You mean I don't actually have to paint them with my own feces...I can just TELL people that I do?
Thanks alot Mastiff, NOW you tell me....anyone got a handy-wipe?
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Would it be outrageous to invent a new term for adults who wantonly abuse figures and call them "mini fiddlers"?
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Post by: SkavenPlayer
Kilkrazy wrote:Would it be outrageous to invent a new term for adults who wantonly abuse figures and call them "mini fiddlers"?
lolz
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
I can just see them being instantly whisked away by a suddenly appearing mob of chainsmoking angry mothers with overly large gold jewellery holding placards saying 'protect our little ones' and 'touchers get out!'...
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Post by: infilTRAITOR
Mwah ha ha ha ha, I'm often the one picking up models to take a look! I do ask, most of the time.
Every time I go over my buds house (ChaosBubbles) I always break something of his. Now he has switched from GW glue to loctite, it's now one in every two visits something breaks. But I swear it's totally not my fault!
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
infilTRAITOR wrote:Mwah ha ha ha ha, I'm often the one picking up models to take a look! I do ask, most of the time.
Every time I go over my buds house (ChaosBubbles) I always break something of his. Now he has switched from GW glue to loctite, it's now one in every two visits something breaks. But I swear it's totally not my fault!
And here we witness the infilTRAITOR as it collects bitz for the bitz box, snapping them from whole models that have strayed too close...
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Post by: notprop
Kilkrazy wrote:Would it be outrageous to invent a new term for adults who wantonly abuse figures and call them "mini fiddlers"?
MeanGreenStompa wrote:I can just see them being instantly whisked away by a suddenly appearing mob of chainsmoking angry mothers with overly large gold jewellery holding placards saying 'protect our little ones' and 'touchers get out!'...
Whom then burn down the homes of small violin players mistakenly not knowing the difference! 
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Don't get too close to mini fiddlers or you will catch mini fiddler crabs.
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
One time a long long time ago there was a child a fat fat abysmal child who wouldnt stop picking up my Crimson Ravens.
I waited until he got his case out heheheh I picked up all his minatures I fondled them and rolled them about between my fingers and then said.
"Not very nice is it???" hmmmm??? he looked at me blankly as I walked away chuckling softly.
Dont get mad get even.... *nods*
The Boss
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Post by: Khornholio
I remember way back when playing a game of 40K and some random family off the street came into the shop and their kids grabbed stuff off of a table during a game and starting bashing it together like a smash-up derby. With the mother saying things like "Tarquin, don't you think you should ask to see those before you pick them up and play with them?" as the boy makes machine gun sounds and bits and pieces fly about. At the time, I felt the whole family should've been flayed and taxidermed as a warning to others.
I dropped my Chaos War altar that was on the verge of a masterpiece and it broke into 1000 pieces when I was moving.
Maybe I should be flayed and taxidermed as a warning to others.
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Post by: forrestfire
Khornholio wrote:I remember way back when playing a game of 40K and some random family off the street came into the shop and their kids grabbed stuff off of a table during a game and starting bashing it together like a smash-up derby. With the mother saying things like "Tarquin, don't you think you should ask to see those before you pick them up and play with them?" as the boy makes machine gun sounds and bits and pieces fly about. At the time, I felt the whole family should've been flayed and taxidermed as a warning to others.
Good God. What models did they demolish? Did you get paid back? 
You guys' stories make me glad that the only real model breakage story of mine is when I broke the stand off a crisis suit.
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Post by: Axyl
One time to break up the monotony of playing at my FLGS I visited my local GW retail outlet for an apoc game. Well, as it turns out I was probably the only participant over 14 years of age. In addition, there was little actual playing and more "oooh! let me touch your stuff" going on.
I haven't returned since.
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Post by: Phydox
Reading this, I guess ive been fortunate. The only think I can remember anywhere close the these horror stories is: One time I played an orc player and his friend, leaned over the board behind one of his orc units and yelled "WAAAGH" and a big stream of drool fell out of his mouth all over the kids army.
I lost the game because I couldn't stop laughing. Everytime i would finally get control again, the kid would mutter "i can't believe you.." or just punch his friend, and i would start laughing again.
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Post by: Gobstomp420
I had painted up and converted my wife's DE army. She was at her first tourney ever, playing some ham-handed, overweight guy. Halfway throught the game, he needs to get to her side of the table to measure smething. Somehow, on his way around the table, he put his fat foot right into my wife's carrying case. The whole store went quiet when the sound of several dozen DE were crushed. The only thing that saved the guy was that he was appropriately mortified. ANd he did offer to replace all the models. But it still blew trying to rebuild those guys.
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Post by: Cryonicleech
What I don't understand is why people don't ask first.
I've had my Warboss crushed into shreds by some ignorant child who picked him up without asking, dropped him, and somehow "Accidentally" stepped on him.
To his credit though, he was really sorry, and he did promise to ask first, and be more careful.
Plus, it was his destruction that prodded me to convert my old Warboss' remains into a shiny new one.
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Post by: LastManOnEarth
If a kid is being a pest and there's a parent nearby not keeping it under control, I like to just go into Captain Oever's spiel from Airplane!
"Say Timmy, you ever hang out in a gymnasium?"
"Do you like movies about gladiators?"
"Ever been in a Turkish prison?"
"Have you ever seen a grown man naked?"
It works better than "Ma'am, please take your little monster far, far away from me."
LMoE
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
I dunno about that particular approach - if she doesn't know the movie, the next face you see could be this one:
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Post by: Khornholio
forrestfire wrote:Khornholio wrote:I remember way back when playing a game of 40K and some random family off the street came into the shop and their kids grabbed stuff off of a table during a game and starting bashing it together like a smash-up derby. With the mother saying things like "Tarquin, don't you think you should ask to see those before you pick them up and play with them?" as the boy makes machine gun sounds and bits and pieces fly about. At the time, I felt the whole family should've been flayed and taxidermed as a warning to others.
Good God. What models did they demolish? Did you get paid back?
You guys' stories make me glad that the only real model breakage story of mine is when I broke the stand off a crisis suit.
Thankfully it wasn't my stuff. I think he had a Rhino in one had and was repeatedily hitting it with a lightning clawed Terminator. The other kid was just cushing marines together. I think the manager compensated the victims in this case after telling the lady to get control of her kids or leave.
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Post by: rodfarruguia
during a tournament i bumped my opponents Valkyrie into oblivion, if there was a place it could come appart then it did. come to think of it you don't want me near your minis.
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Post by: Shadowbrand
People keep saying my army's paint job looks incomplete which makes me rage.
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Post by: Bookwrack
JohnHwangDD wrote:I dunno about that particular approach - if she doesn't know the movie, the next face you see could be this one:
I'd ask him if he'd ever hung out in a gymnasium too.
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Post by: Witzkatz
This thread reassures me never to take my miniatures to our local GW store. Sometimes, when I'm there to buy some paint, I look at the actual game being played on the table in the middle of the store and something insides cringes me at the very possibility of someone breaking something or dropping it to the floor.
I even get slightly uncomfortable when my usual opponents (who haven't painted more than a total of half an hour until now and simply don't know what kind of work is needed for a single, nicely painted mini) casually grab my models and touch them all over the paintwork. I told them to touch them on the base only and they looked at me if I were overreacting. Well, I guess they'll learn when they spent their first week painted ONE single soldier...
...I guess if some dislikable idiot at a store would break my minis, I'm not sure what I would do. I'm really a non-violent person, but probably my mind would produce wonderful pictures of palmstrike to the nose, knee to the solar plexus, elbow smash to the temple and let the fether drop to the floor. In the end I'd probably only tell him to be more careful next time...  Guess I'm too soft.
To avoid situations like this, I don't bring minis to the store.
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Post by: Wolfgang
Does anybody here get watched by the dozens of little horrors when your buying expensive stuff from GW? when I got back in the hobby I must have brought about £100 of models and supplies and I was being followed around to see what I would buy next, then when I got to the checkout it was look oooooo ahhhh look what he's brought...scary very scary..
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Post by: I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly
When I started playing with my current Warhammer group, our first game was a very long, rules-explaining and hard-drinking marathon match. the cousin of the guy hosting the game (who doesn't play warhammer himself, his main hobby is smoking dope) couldn't take his booze, and then fell backwards over the stool on which my unsecured army case was resting. Thousand sons went scattering out the garage door behing him and down the driveway. I got most of the pieces together while he apologised and went to bed in shame, although I did find one marine the next week, under the car.
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:When I started playing with my current Warhammer group, our first game was a very long, rules-explaining and hard-drinking marathon match. the cousin of the guy hosting the game (who doesn't play warhammer himself, his main hobby is smoking dope) couldn't take his booze, and then fell backwards over the stool on which my unsecured army case was resting. Thousand sons went scattering out the garage door behing him and down the driveway. I got most of the pieces together while he apologised and went to bed in shame, although I did find one marine the next week, under the car.
i have a great mental image of a drunk stoner falling over onto some pointymarines, sorry i mean chaos marines and getting impaled
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Post by: Scott-S6
Archonate wrote:This story fills me with rage. Both toward the mother and her slowed spawn.
It seems that some time shortly after my generation, a majority parents mutually decided to not only let their children run wild doing whatever they want, but also fiercely defend said child from anyone telling them to knock it off. Ultimately not only refusing to parent, but also getting angry when somebody is forced to step in and parent in their behalf.
I see this as well on those rare times that I'm in a GW store and just don't get it. My girls are 3 & 5 and they know to ask before they touch a model or even a box set.
I can even take them to model shops (you know, the tiny ones with floor to ceiling boxes and racks of tiny parts everywhere) and they won't touch a thing without asking.
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Wolfgang wrote:Does anybody here get watched by the dozens of little horrors when your buying expensive stuff from GW? when I got back in the hobby I must have brought about £100 of models and supplies and I was being followed around to see what I would buy next, then when I got to the checkout it was look oooooo ahhhh look what he's brought...scary very scary..
Even the staff do this sometimes - Wow, you're buying ten bikes? Well, that's how many marines is in a squad so, yeah...
When 3rd ed. came out and I bought eight rhinos it was like their heads were going to explode!
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Post by: person person
Scott-S6 wrote:Even the staff do this sometimes - Wow, you're buying ten bikes? Well, that's how many marines is in a squad so, yeah...
When 3rd ed. came out and I bought eight rhinos it was like their heads were going to explode!
Not many people at my store buy that much at a time, we rarely have ten bikes or eight rhinos in stock!
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
My brother (1-2 years junior) came to the club with me for once (he's now hooked on to eldar). My friend had just finished putting together Typhus and had left him to dry. My brother asks if he can have look, my friend says yeah but don't touch him. My brother picks him up. My friend says put him down repeatedly, but too late, Typhus' arm broke off.
He walks over and punches my brother in the arm. Now while I completly understand (and was close to doing the same thing) my brother's family, and I warned my friend that if he ever did anything like that again, I would deck him. This didn't stop me chewing my bro's ear off (not literally) at the slightest opportunity.
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
I have 2 armies. the one i bring to my FLGS and the one I dont. the one I bring even the plastics are pinned, there painted in the most basic manner I can do while still making them look good. I got the odd kid asking to look but mostly people dont ask they jsut grab. the extra pinning has saved me a few times as I've had people dropping my master of the forge with his full harness from about 5 feet and he staied intact.
As for unruly kids and bad or angry parents.
Yesterday I was at my local GW painting up a few nids as it was cleaning day at my house and I woke up before everyone else and GTFO before I had to do any work. when I got there a man working away and his 2 kids were at the painting table getting hoped up on pop rocks and coke, I sat down and proceeded to pull out my paint brushes and models and as soon as I started to paint the kiddies were out in force grabbing my freshly painted models leaving their fingerprints in the paint, dropping some of my metal models chipping the paint then proceeded to tell me that my unfinnished models were ugly and had chips and finger prints in the paint.
when I kindly asked them to stop the father became irrate and was chewing me out for trying to curtail his kids fun. I proceeded to ask him to reverse our positions, if it were my kids grabbing his models leaving prints in hte paint and chipping them what would he do. he responded by tellign his kids not to touch the models without permission and got back to his painting. THEN the sugar kicked in and the kids were running around hte store grabbing everything that wasnt nailed down. After about 20 minutes of this the redshirts asked him to keep controll of his children or leave, and he responded by yelling at the employee to not to tell him how to parent his kids.
suffice to say the man was banned from the store for about two weeks and wont be able to pick up his space hulk box untill that time, me and the manager had a good laugh about it and the rest of the day I was uninterupted. Im so happy that all the kiddies here are back in school for most of the day and i can get some painting done uninterupted.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Karma has struck again.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
ManwithIronHands wrote:As for unruly kids and bad or angry parents.
Yesterday I was at my local GW painting up a few nids as it was cleaning day at my house and I woke up before everyone else and GTFO before I had to do any work. when I got there a man working away and his 2 kids were at the painting table getting hoped up on pop rocks and coke, I sat down and proceeded to pull out my paint brushes and models and as soon as I started to paint the kiddies were out in force grabbing my freshly painted models leaving their fingerprints in the paint, dropping some of my metal models chipping the paint then proceeded to tell me that my unfinnished models were ugly and had chips and finger prints in the paint.
when I kindly asked them to stop the father became irrate and was chewing me out for trying to curtail his kids fun. I proceeded to ask him to reverse our positions, if it were my kids grabbing his models leaving prints in hte paint and chipping them what would he do. he responded by tellign his kids not to touch the models without permission and got back to his painting. THEN the sugar kicked in and the kids were running around hte store grabbing everything that wasnt nailed down. After about 20 minutes of this the redshirts asked him to keep controll of his children or leave, and he responded by yelling at the employee to not to tell him how to parent his kids.
STATE IMPOSED STERILISATION OF THE STUPID.
That's change I can believe in.
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Post by: warhound123
Ok, get this!
Many years ago now, I was the main 'full timer' at my local shop and while not 'manager' level was seen as a responsible unit who had over seen a few stores in the area for some time.
Then Jon joined our store as the manager. The man was 30 going on 12 with teeth that could make you gag at the site of them, why HO let him out in public I will never know.
Anyway, as key 'frother' I always ran the big saturday afternoon games (basically Apoc before the rules) and the kids (and adults) always had a great time- lots of team work, support for those who didn't know the rules that well, you know the kinda feel good times;-)
SO, after a good 3 hour game, people were starting to pack their armies away into kitchen paper and tupperware combo's or actual cases when I heard from the other side of the store, Jon ask Henry (a 10 yr old VERY pleasant young man) to put his army away. Henry at this time was talking about how well the game had gone with his mates, you know the whole excited de-brief type thang going on.
Jon then asked again, only 2 minutes later. Henry replied, 'yep will do' and continued the conversation.
3 minutes later I was horrified to then see said manager march up to Henry's case, pick it up and then fling the whole thing across the other side of the shop and then proceeded to pick up a basilisk and some infantry and, yep, they too followed suit!!!!! Jon's only words were "I told you to pack this lot away!" Henry being 10, was quite rightly scared by this intimidation and quite frankly violent act. I stepped in, got Jon out back of the shop and sorted out the situation. (Henry walked away with a LOT of new stuff that day;-P)
The most appauling thing about this entire event is that when I reported this to HO, an investigation was put in place and after about one week, Jon was moved to another store. Not sacked, not 'disciplined' but moved.
I have never worked for the retail arm again.
All true.
cheers
W
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Post by: Witzkatz
Wow, this last story is really hard stuff. I mean, how little or big can a man's ego be that, over a child (!) taking its time with doing what it is asked, he consciously destroys not only items owned by another person, but by a customer of the very shop he works for...!  The reaction from HO is quite unsatisfactory, too...
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Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable
Wait, do Necrons still get their WBB on wounds caused by manhandling?
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Post by: wyomingfox
avantgarde wrote:I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.
Finally Found You! *Proceeds to look up address in Brooklyn Phone Book while applying lipstick*
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Post by: infilTRAITOR
MeanGreenStompa wrote:infilTRAITOR wrote:Mwah ha ha ha ha, I'm often the one picking up models to take a look! I do ask, most of the time.
Every time I go over my buds house (ChaosBubbles) I always break something of his. Now he has switched from GW glue to loctite, it's now one in every two visits something breaks. But I swear it's totally not my fault!
And here we witness the infilTRAITOR as it collects bitz for the bitz box, snapping them from whole models that have strayed too close...
Shhh, it's a secret!
I don't mind people man-handling my stuff. I always have glue to hand and it only takes a few seconds to dry. I always tell people to be careful if it's fragile and if it breaks it breaks.
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Post by: jackvolerich
Some of your stories are really funny sorry to cruel or anything.
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Post by: J'santai Khan
Nomog wrote: I received some attitude from the mother about what harm could he do.....seconds later he broke the roll bar off of not one but two ork trukks.
You should have grabbed his mother's boobs and asked her "what harm could it do" with as much sarcasm as you could muster!
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Heh, now that's a good one.
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Post by: DJ Illuminati
I have been lucky, but I also assume that everyone in the FLGS is either a thief or slowed and watch my stuff accordingly.....I havent lost a mini in almost 9 years.......
But the best story I have is where I was playing a Eldar list with 9 Warwalkers and had to borrow 6 Metal Sentinals from my friend Ben to proxy the models I didnt have. All game long he kept reminding me to be careful and gental with them as the old metal sentinals were very fragile. Finaly, after the game ended on turn 7 after about 3 hours, I handed all 6 Sentinals back to Ben and no sooner did he turn around than he dropped and broke every single one. It took us an hour to find all the missing parts and another hour to glue them back together.
I was SOOOOO happy it didnt happen while I was holding them........
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Post by: krazynadechukr2
I'd love to molest Laetitia Casta....oh wait, your not talking those kinda models? Oops.
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Post by: Fateweaver
Bookwrack wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:I dunno about that particular approach - if she doesn't know the movie, the next face you see could be this one:
I'd ask him if he'd ever hung out in a gymnasium too.
If I saw that face I'd punch him in the nose and ask how it feels to try to entrap people. I won't get into it but his show is such blatant entrapment I bet 99% of all his "molesters" walk free.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Yeah, he's magically forcing pervs to send dirty sex messages to to a 13 year-old kids, then drive to their houses with condoms and sex toys...
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
eh, wha-?
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Post by: HellsGuardian316
Oh dear lord lol
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
*sigh*
Is it too late/early to say IBTL?
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Post by: HellsGuardian316
I'm still trying to work out what possesses people to think that they are entitled to walk up to your property and manhandle it and in some cases break it without even asking permission.
I remember when my friend started the hobby for the first time and was asking me loads of questions which i was helping him with. He kept picking up my models and examining my paint job (with permission) when he put my crisis suit down rather hard and snapped the clear flying base leaving a tiny bit lodge inside the suit meaning I couldn't repair it. He was absolutely mortified, offering to buy it from me and all sorts.
Thankfully I have a friend with a fine tipped drill and he drilled it out for me allowing it to be repaired no fuss. But goes to show even careful modellers can cause grief, lol
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Models are fragile but they are meant to be played with so there is an inherent risk they will be damaged even by careful users.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
I think it's mostly little kids excited by the new hobby, and I wish they would ask for permission first but I see their enthusiasm. It doesn't stop me getting annoyed at breakage.
However, if someone slightly/much older who I don't know walks in and starts tinkering with my guys, I'd get a little pit peeved. (I tell hom it's okay, but in future just ask)
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Post by: HellsGuardian316
*Looks at Emperors Faithful, think we saved it*
Yes it does seem to be mostly children who are the major culprits, I understand that they do not know any better until they are actually taught not to do it.
And to be honest, I'm far more annoyed at adults picking things up without asking, they are old enough to know its disrespectful and rude.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
think we saved it* ???
Explain yourself. NOW!!!
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Post by: HellsGuardian316
Emperors Faithful wrote:*sigh*
Is it too late/early to say IBTL?
Went off topic and risk of lock, managed to steer it back on topic so risk gone.
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Post by: Lordhat
Emperors Faithful wrote:think we saved it* ???
Explain yourself. NOW!!!
Fateweaver wrote:Bookwrack wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:I dunno about that particular approach - if she doesn't know the movie, the next face you see could be this one:
I'd ask him if he'd ever hung out in a gymnasium too.
If I saw that face I'd punch him in the nose and ask how it feels to try to entrap people. I won't get into it but his show is such blatant entrapment I bet 99% of all his "molesters" walk free.
JohnHwangDD wrote:Yeah, he's magically forcing pervs to send dirty sex messages to to a 13 year-old kids, then drive to their houses with condoms and sex toys...
hellsguardian316 wrote:Oh dear lord lol
There you go.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
OH GOD!!!
Here it comes again!!!!
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Off Topic Thread 2: The Pedo Bear Returns...
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Post by: HellsGuardian316
*Grabs Emperors Faithfuls models without asking and promptly "accidently" drops one on the floor letting it break in an effort to get another related post up quick*
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
*Emperors Faithful whispers hellsguardians address in pedo bears ear*
Now it's only a matter of time, heh, heh, heh...
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Take it to the pms ladies...
GET BACK ON TOPIC.
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Post by: HellsGuardian316
( could say I went off the rails MGS, couldn't resist the pun )
Just wondered, has anyone had an instance where someone has picked up your models and "tested the strength of the glue?" ie wiggling the limbs to see how strong the model is
Same friend did that once and broke the tab on my Tau Hammerhead engine, very irritating but thankfully glueable once i found where the tab had fallen
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
hellsguardian316 wrote:Just wondered, has anyone had an instance where someone has picked up your models and "tested the strength of the glue?" ie wiggling the limbs to see how strong the model is
Ive seen people purposely try to break models to check that.
Once I saw soemone "testing" a glue bond on a one peice model I think it was the farseer from the seer council box. Safe to say the models owner walked home with a seer council box as the tester had broken the sword or something off.
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Post by: RxGhost
Ah, Mr. JohnHwangDD, why don't you have a seat. Just sit down right over there.
So, you wrote here to a Battlesistah69, these are you're words sir: "I'm going to cover you in Tallarn Flesh and wet blend Elf Flesh on top."
Would you care to explain yourself?
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Post by: hancock.tom
I started this thread by talking about a 35 year old that broke one of my models.... and 95% of the stories have been about obnoxious kids.
Which goes to show you that you have to be a very socially slowed 35 year old to pick up and break someone else's stuff!
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Post by: Horst
an annoying little kid knocked my forgeworld venerable dreadnought off the table during a tournament... broke into 4 pieces... fortunately it was fixable, but I was still pretty mad. I ended up chucking genestealers at him whenever my ddreadnought's shattered remains killed one.
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Post by: metallifan
A couple years back, I had some family visiting from Williams Lake. Their kids were about 10 and 12 or 11 and 13 at the time... Don't completely remember. Anyway, they brought a friend with them each. They found my Black Templars army while I was at my University course I guess, and I came back in the afternoon to to four giggling kids and a floor covered in busted off marine pieces. I started screaming at them, told them to gather together everything they broke, separate them by limb and (in the case of the arms) left and right sides and put them into boxes. I then warned them that if they ever touched anything again, I'd superglue their eyelids and nostrils shut, and they'd have to get them surgically cut apart at the hospital.
They ran upstairs bawling and their mother told me I had no right to discipline her kids. I told her that she shouldn't even have kids if she isn't going to parent them herself, and that I wouldn't have had to discipline them if she would've been a responsible adult and made a point to know what her kids are up to, especially as guests in someone else's house.
Next year, they came to visit and brought 10 yammering little teenage girls that they brought from their stupid bible school or whatever it is. I made the point of not touching my models very clear as soon as they went downstairs. I never noticed even one mini moved from it's spot. Though they did stay up until 2 am on a wednesday night and yapped and giggled and screamed until I went and bellowed at them to shut the up.
Yea. I'm not a pleasant person when you do things that annoy me
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Post by: paulguise
I had a bad experience at one of the shops I play at. Nowhere near as seperting a model to its component pieces, but it was annoying all the same.
Some guy (dont care to remember his name) started playing with my commanders (which I spent the most time modding and painting) and picked one up by his cape which, have a metal body and plastic cape, come off quite a bit easier than I had hoped.
He said sorry and as I tried to get it bck togther again he started digging through my bitz box (I carry that everywhere) looking for Ork stuff.
I said "Dude!" and he said "just lookin" and I said "then ASK m%##@*%er f$%^er!"
He tends to steer clear of me now adays.
Its a simple thing, really, to utter the words "May I?" and point to something. Just grabbing is a good way to get a hand put into a blender.
Cheers
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Post by: oni
These stories make me sad and what to hurt people. :(
I never touch other peoples models, I don't even ask. I'll only ever handle another persons model if they explicitly ask me to do so or hand it to me in an offering to look at it closer.
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Post by: Orlanth
I do handle other peoples models, carefully, but always ask first. If the answer is no fair enough, but 19/20 are ok with it and I thank them afterwards.
I find to look at something like a miniature properly I need to pick it up.
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Post by: Orlanth
I do handle other peoples models, carefully, but always ask first. If the answer is no fair enough, but 19/20 are ok with it and I thank them afterwards.
I find to look at something like a miniature properly I need to pick it up.
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Post by: person person
I wonder how many people lost a GD thanks to idiots breaking things?
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Post by: J'santai Khan
A loooooongggg time ago, my girlfriends sister & her vermin showed up at my house for a BBQ. Rain hit and everyone ended up inside. Long story short, her heathens decided that my gaming table was going to be thier personal destruction area and proceeded to DESTROY close to $500 worth of painted, converted and award winning minis. When I discovered the destruction, I very calmly put everything that was broken into a large box and presented it to her sister, at which point I was informed that she would be happy to repay me for the damage. When I hit her a couple of days later with an itemized list (which came to a bit over $500 just for the minis with shipping & then tagged in my normal rates for painting = $1000+), I thought she was going to swallow her teeth. She paid up, under threats of legal action, and NEVER brought her hellspawned children near my house again! Kind of a harsh lesson in 'keep your hands to yourself'.
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Post by: Agamemnon2
Strangely, my models have escaped serious damage, though it's not from a lack of trying on the little vermin's behalf. A simple "Hands off!" usually suffices, though for Apoc games where I have to get my models together on a side table before deployment (where I can't keep an eye on them all the time), I've also employed small signs to that effect.
Fateweaver wrote:If I saw that face I'd punch him in the nose and ask how it feels to try to entrap people. I won't get into it but his show is such blatant entrapment I bet 99% of all his "molesters" walk free.
Amusingly, you're wrong.
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
this happenede to a friend of mine a few years back.
A group of us were playing a game at a Friends house, my friend doesnt have a carrying case jsut sort of a cut down paper box filled with chunks of foam and other soft materials. Anyway after a few turns we all smell somthing quite bad we start snifing around and find out its coming from my buddys carry box. we close it up and the smell goes away figuring it was the paint on his models reacting with the foam (he uses oil paints and had just painted a few models before he left) so we ontinue with our game. About 2 hours later we start packing our stuff to start headng home. when we hear Awww YOUR CAT SH** IN MY CARRY BOX AND ITS ALL OVER MY STUFF.
goes to show that not all model molesters are human.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
ManwithIronHands wrote:we hear Awww YOUR CAT SH** IN MY CARRY BOX AND ITS ALL OVER MY STUFF.
I LOL'D
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Post by: porkuslime
I have an 8 year old daughter, who has helped me paint/dip Tyranids.. she is very proud of her assistance, and when she brings friends over, she likes to show em off.
She takes very good care to hold the models by the base, makes sure her friends do the same, and carefully returns them to the case. She tells em "Dad's Bugs are for looking, not playing!"
I suspect having taken part in creating the army, she is invested in keeping them intact and clean.
To this end, she has "hand me down" models of her own that she is allowed to play with, and someday I hope she might try to play..
I am thinking a "bag of green-army men" IG to start with..
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
RxGhost wrote:Ah, Mr. JohnHwangDD, why don't you have a seat. Just sit down right over there.
So, you wrote here to a Battlesistah69, these are you're words sir: "I'm going to cover you in Tallarn Flesh and wet blend Elf Flesh on top."
Would you care to explain yourself?
TotalThreadWIN!
My wife has a strict "break his models and I kick you in the balls" policy. Luckily she hasn't had to enforce/capitalize on it very much. (my wife is MEAN!)
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Post by: Buttlerthepug
While reading this thread last night I was laughing pretty hard but was in awe. I just couldnt stop thinking how lucky I am that I have never had to deal with these kinds of kids first hand (have I seen them in action against other peoples stuff? yes) Then today I my local GW. While in the middle of a battle someone comes up, puts his hand under the table and into one of my boxes and pulls out my FW chaos dragon tale without asking. Then procedes to swing it around like its some movie and hes about to pwn 30 marines with a tale swipe... The worste part was this kid wasnt like 5 or 8 or something, he was like 13 or 14, he should no better then that. Lets just say I wasnt happy, and only had time to send him a glare and say "the hell you doing" before he put it back and went to the other side of the table.
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Post by: Sidstyler
I am very lucky that this hasn't happened to me. Had a close call one night though, we were playing on the table in front of the door and a couple walks in with a young kid, who immediately runs over to the table and starts crawling around underneath it, where we're keeping our open bags of models.
There was one time though, where I was admiring a Chaos terminator lord someone was painting, with a lava base and everything. It was just sitting on a box on the counter, but for some stupid reason I just reached out and grabbed it and started turning it over to look at his progress. When I realized what I did I looked up like "Oh gak", put it back, and looked around as if nothing had happened.
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Post by: person person
I almost dropped one of my rhinos 12ft 2 days ago. Automatically Appended Next Post: JohnHwangDD wrote:ManwithIronHands wrote:we hear Awww YOUR CAT SH** IN MY CARRY BOX AND ITS ALL OVER MY STUFF.
I LOL'D
How could you not!?!
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Post by: Fresh
Sidstyler wrote: When I realized what I did
What happened? you caught my interest?
Personal story, when i saw the master of raven wing i knew i had to get it, well after about 4 hours of buying/pinning and getting it together all at the painting area of the games workshop shop after finally getting the model done up i thought that was enough as i was heading back to the train station (at this time i had a very bad home made carry case). so i packed everything up and i thought "Hey, i should be extra careful about this, so ill just cover it and hold it in my hands," WORST IDEA EVER. so i covered it up with a tissue so it had some protection and walked outside the shop and went up the elevator. While admiring the awesome sculpt in my little world there was a jolt and all the sudden BUMP some lady was in a hurry and knocked me on the arm. i died a little that day. i have only the jetbike and his sword left that i could find, some fell off the elevator down and the small pieces disappeared - funny enough, i stopped playing DA's that day, bad omen? or the idiot who thought of the idea.
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Post by: Winter
Worst that has happened to me, was when i had just finished painting a dreadnaught for my CSM, my mates had come around for a game or two that date, one of em picked it up off the dead pile on the board and proceeded to look at it, all no dramas.
Unit someone spoke to him as he put it back on the table whereby he got it only half on the table and well lets say even in the 41st millenium concrete beats dreadnaught.
Thankfully it was fixable with a few bitz from the bitz box, and it managed to turn up alright again.
But after reading the thread it seems i am fairly lucky to have escaped some serious damage, although i rarely play at a gaming store and even then its during the middle of the week so i avoid those nasty school kids.
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Post by: The Bloody Handed God
Neil wrote:At a recent tournament, the two paint judges came up during a game to judge painting. One judge accidentally bumped the table and knocked my bloodthirster off. The other painting judge instinctively tried to catch it.. with his foot.. and punted it across the room
ouchy
on topic- while I haven't had it happen to e, a friend of mine converted a defiler and made al the legs and arms from metal. Someone bumped the end of the table, which made the defiler fall off the sloped bit of terrain it was on and right onto the floor. We didn't find one of the legs strangely enough.
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Post by: Sidstyler
Gutteridge wrote:Sidstyler wrote: When I realized what I did
What happened? you caught my interest?
...err...nothing, I said what happened. The model was sitting there by itself, I grabbed it to admire it up close without realizing it, then panicked and put it back again, lol.
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Post by: Thanatos_elNyx
Neil wrote:At a recent tournament, the two paint judges came up during a game to judge painting. One judge accidentally bumped the table and knocked my bloodthirster off. The other painting judge instinctively tried to catch it.. with his foot.. and punted it across the room
I had a similar non-gaming experience. I was in Disneyland and was taking my camera out to take a photo. I happened to notice something on the ground and I just kicked it as you would a pebble. When I caught up to it again I realised it was my spare 2GB SD card (already full of photos) for my camera which must have fallen out as I got my camera!
On topic: was playing a game in a tournament with eldar. I moved one of my Guardian casualties to the end of the table and I dropped it on the floor where it bounced. Was about to say, "Thats what I love about plastics, they bounce" but befor ei could it bounced right under the foot of another gamer! He was very apologetic but they was nothing he could have done, was entirely my fault. Worst part of it was that it wasn't even my army!
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Post by: orkylooter
well i have my deffkotas from aobr and i curently have only one on that flying base cause when ever they drop they always break the flying base
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Post by: Henners91
I was over some guy's house when I was about 7, and this was the first time I ever saw Warhammer; a Space Marine bike squad... with banners all really well painted and everything... I proceeded to try and grab them and play with them: I was told "Those aren't toys", and that was that...
Only time I *can remember* wanting to be malicious with models
But on another subject; it really grinds my gears how GW is effectively free daycare; we have to be patient and nice to these nauseating kids... I went to my local GW recently with some of my oooold models I was given as a present as a kid; including the old Rhino. The bunch o' younglings had never seen the old model before and when I placed it on the table next to a bigger Rhino they proceeded to laugh at me; despite my protestations that this "Venerable" Rhino was probably older than they were; and deserved respect instead. They proceeded to man-handle it and neurgh... I told them to put it back and nothing was broken, but jeez... I really don't have the patience for looking after some kids that just get dumped in the store whilst mumsy goes off shoe shopping (or w/e women do... I don't interact with them much, being a hobby gamer 'n' all ;& gt
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Post by: assultmarine
you all have more patience than me
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Post by: BrookM
There was a reason why a friend of mine always played Inquisitor at night. The big metal dollies were very tempting back in the day.
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Post by: Kyley
A couple of weeks ago, my mum had an old friend around, daft woman was too busy talking to controll her 2 brats(dunno how old, under 10) and too fat to chase them. I decide to be surly because I'm 18 and haven't been fed, go off to grab a beer, I get back, the older one is on gears of war, now, I don't know what to do...I can't reprimand him, he's not my kid, I can't hit him, he's not big enough and he hasnt done enough wrong, so I try and switch it to viva pinyata, kiddy friendly game, but no, I am caught, told off for playing violent swearing games, and drinking in front of them, at antisocial times of the day. grrr
So I sulk off to steal jaffa cakes from the cupboards...half an hour later and the younger one has my loverly new dreadnought, all shiny and bright, banners fluttering, base decorated, arms...not pinned...oh dear. I take it away from him, put it somewhere high and go off to lock up everything I own.
Aain, I waltz downstairs, giddy on jaffa and in need of a cup of tea to polish off the last three, I notice on the dining room table...two banners and a base...the feet were still attached to the base....but there was no dreadnought ON the feet, I wander through the patio doors and notice some lines running down the wall, there was a green one, a black one, and lots of big plastic-y grey ones, this does not fill me with hope, especially when I look up and one is sat on the floor, the other looking over his shoulder, my beautiful, lovingly painted, washed, weathered, freehanded dread has had his legs, WORN AWAY on the wall like some massive file, and the remenantsof his arms and legs are not as close to the sarcophagus as I would expect.the young one is now playing with a deffcopta.
I'm not proud of my actions, I did some terrible things, If I had my time again, I would have done things differently...I would have hung the bastard.
As it was, I pushed the standing one into a small shrub and snatched my deffcopta(dreaddy was a lost cause, besides I needed somethingto hold againsed my mum...just in case) and left the stupid git snivveling that he thaught it was a transformer...I'll transform hem.
To cap it all, not only did he snitch to his mummy, he HID MY FETHING XBOX CONTROLLER, under a pile of wood, who does that!?!?!?
Well I think I've said enough, one day that kid will be in a supermarket, and if I remember, I shall key his car, with an eulogy to dreddy
-Kyley
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Post by: Tsurugi
avantgarde wrote:I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.
Truly you must be one of the greatest asses ive ever heard off. Im pretty sure a stolen model is a lot more difficult o deal with than a broken one.
Ive had way more trouble with adults wrecking my models than children, if a kid so much as comes near my models or case i approach them intimidatingly and tell them not to touch without permission. Adults however arent very intimidated by my size
My worst case of a broken model ever tho was caus of a guy who had a seizure, flipped a fully build foamcore board 2x3 table over and onto the floor (and proceded to almost crash himself on it), breaking several broadsides and lots of tanks in the process. He was cool enough to come back, apologise and help everyone reassemble and paint the damaged parts.
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Post by: person person
@Kyley
You should use his/their destructive nature against them next time. E.g. Tell them explicitly not to touch anything on the table where your working on stuff make sure their parent or whatev know too. Pretend that your working on a model that you dont need; like a starter kit marine. cover it in Super glue leave. When he picks it up he should notice a "sandwich box" as you guys call it. labelled glue remover right behind the marine, the marines glued to his hands he dips his hand in whatever devious liquid you decide to put in the container. TA-DAA!!!
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Post by: Kyley
Oh that would be deliciously ironic, just this kid cramming his hand ito a tub full of zip kicker.
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Post by: Red9
Some of you gits are a wee bit too intense...
So on to my story, after pulling a 28 hour day (i love the military) I decided to finish up a valk before a good long sleep. I paint vehicles with an airbrush, so needless to say I'm holding the constructed valk in one hand and Airbrush in the other. I nod off, mid-puff mind you, I wake up 2 hours later in the exact same position with about 3 oz. of light blue reaper master paint sprayed all over my hand and valk. The horror being my friend's (who paid me to paint his valk) loud knocking woke me up. Needless to say The sheer amount of paint on the thing constituted my buying a new one, and repainting it.
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
The only example I can think of that I witnessed myself is at a model show where this late teenager (17-18) walked up to the table on which we were displaying with and picked up a model by the base and then inexplicably turned it upside down meaning all the 1:144 vehicles fell onto the table. My dad lept up and shouted "What the hell do you think you're doing?!" The hall, and this was a sports hall, went absolutely dead quiet, they put the base back down an beat a hasty exit.
On the pure destruction front with no help from other people...I know someone who virtually scratchbuilt a WW2 Churchill Bridgelayer very much like this model in the deploying position except in 1:35 not 1:72. My god it must have taken months of cutting from plastic card and he tripped and dropped it, it virtunally disintergrated. On a similar note another person I know built a vehicle from some extravagently expensive model that was mostly etched brass and that slipped off the top of a pile of stuff being transported to the car and simply burst into pieces when hitting the floor. Utterly destroyed, I would have binned it but he resurrected it.
Though the best one I've heard of that required a helping hand was witnessed by a friend of my mothers. He was at some event or shop where a boy had a tantrum about loosing and kicked the table over with all the models on.
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
Howard A Treesong wrote: Though the best one I've heard of that required a helping hand was witnessed by a friend of my mothers. He was at some event or shop where a boy had a tantrum about loosing and kicked the table over with all the models on.
Ive seen that alot, its eithr the table tip or the top swipe. I generally let the smaller childeren win unless they are actually good at playing the game. Imo a loss tic is alot better than reassembling an army (the same doesnt go for some ive met).
Yet anotehr situation from my vast resivoir of model molestation stories.
A few years back I was playing a tournament at my FLGS. One of the entrants had a few models that werent quite WISIWIG, he had plasma pistols isntead of bolt pistols and such he was young (12 or 13) and couldnet afford to have multiple models with all the different gear loadouts. One of the other competitors (probly around 24-25) got annoyed over this and when it came for those two people to play the older guy pulled out a set of clippers and started cutting all the gear the model didnt have off. Ofcourse the kid got upset and demanded reparations, to which the other guy scoffed and told the kid that next time he should have modles with the actual gear that is being used and that he wasnt going to repay the kid for the damages. What happened next is still one of the funnyest things ive ever seen. The kid just grabs the guys arm throws him to the ground and grabs his wallet and takes what was owed. Aparently the kid was has black belt in judo and had been training since he was 5.
I havent seen the older guy since. hes probly too afraid of getting made fun of for getting beat up by a 12 yr old.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Oh, that's awesome.
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Post by: Velour_Fog
See, this is all why I don't play 40k. All these stories are horrible.
Reading the fluff and painting the models is much more risk free.
Apart from when you inadvertently stab yourself with a craft knife.
I might play, one day, but i'd have to REALLY trust who I was around.
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Post by: Jon Garrett
Oh, these are the exceptions. I've been playing at my local Games Workshop for a year and so far no one has broken anything...except my housemate, who keeps knocking my damned Broadsides off there perch.
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Post by: person person
JohnHwangDD wrote:Oh, that's awesome.
+1
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Post by: Goliath
person person wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:Oh, that's awesome.
+1
and again.
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Post by: Scott-S6
Skarwael wrote:See, this is all why I don't play 40k. All these stories are horrible.
Reading the fluff and painting the models is much more risk free.
Apart from when you inadvertently stab yourself with a craft knife.
I might play, one day, but i'd have to REALLY trust who I was around.
Find a good gaming club (you're in the UK, there's loads of them) and you won't have any of these issues.
The only breakages I've ever seen in decades of playing is the moving-the-overloaded-foam-try-which bends-and-dumps-its-contents scenario.
The last time I played in a store was when the yellow wargear book (for 1st ed) came out.
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Post by: Shaman
Threads like this are why Im anti social..
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Goliath wrote:person person wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:Oh, that's awesome.
+1
and again.
And again. 
"That kid...he came out of nowhere! It must of taken some sort of tactical geniu-CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!
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Post by: Killakanwh
Sum guys just dont have respect for O.P.P (other peoples property) But if he shows himself again and picks up somethin without asking, just tell him that you dont accept such things, its no fair breaking O.P.P.
cya
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
The guy would probly be in his 30s now so i hope in the last few years he gained some respect for other peoples property.
another story to keep this thread going...... dont tell me I know live in a horrble model molestation area.
At a tournament and skills compition oh say about 4 years ago, a buddy of mine entered the painting contest. when the judges came around to his model they asked if it was alright to pick up and get a good look at it. Before my buddy can answer a bystander in his late teens or early twenties swoops in and picks the thing up and just as fast drops it on the concrete floor everyone is horrified when it hits the floor and shatters in places that it was not repairable, it was a nurgle Chaos Lord with demionic steed based on the Caller.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1060107&prodId=prod1120103
The lord was salvagable but the Caller model was trashed, all its ribs were broken the tail was shattered. safe to say the model was finished. by the time everyone had looked up the guy who droped the thing was long gone. My buddy at that point was tomato red and was looking everywhere for this guy. aparently his wasnt the only model smashed at least 3 others were destroyed in a similar manner. the judges and others think the guy was a friend of one of the other competitors breaking models that posed a threat to his victory. Anyway due to the vandalism on his and other models the compition was called off and the people with the destroyed models were reembursed with the prize money.
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Post by: MagickalMemories
JohnHwangDD wrote:ManwithIronHands wrote:we hear Awww YOUR CAT SH** IN MY CARRY BOX AND ITS ALL OVER MY STUFF.
I LOL'D
Aw, dude!
That's not funny.
I had a bud who had a cat one time that was starting to lose it's mind.
he had a 3/4 completed FW Chaos titan in a box in the corner of his painting room.
The cat got in it a FEW times (during a period when he was taking a painting hiatus) and peed on it.
When he decided to start painting again, he went to get the model and found hard crusty yellow stuff all over the titan... especially the feet.
It had been there long enough to dry up & the pee smell to go away. He had to scrub the whole model, losing his SPECTACULAR paint job in the process.
It was a sad day.
Eric
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Post by: Darkreaver55
I must go to a good store. I guess the fact that it is not in a mall but instead rather well hidden off one of the main drags plays in its favor there. For as long as I've been playing there, I don't think there have been any catastrophic demolitions whatsoever. There is always the occasional 'Oh crap I just dropped my Dire Avenger, where is his head?' but other than that it seems to be a model's paradise.
I make sure never to touch another's models without permission, and ensure that they get the same respect I give my own minis. As an artist, the thought of touching someone else's carefully painted minis with anything but a clean and careful hand horrifies me.
I have had one major panic moment related to potential mini molestation. Normally I keep my army boxes within arm's reach, or at least in a place where I can keep an eye out on them. During a tournament on a Saturday some weeks past (the day in which there is the highest concentration of non-40k gamers, roleplayers, and most of all unsupervised kids) I had to bolt off during the lunch break to get a car back from getting repairs. Lunch break = half an hour. Garage = thirteen minutes away. Needless to say, I was out the door like a shot as soon as the first round was done. The plan was to have my fiancee remain behind with my army, especially with the brand new daemon prince making his debut to very positive reviews on his paint. Two minutes down the road, mind abuzz with strategies and also my paranoid hatred of cities and city driving, I realized that she was in the passenger's seat because she had to drive this car back as well. I immediately shot off a panicked call to my friend who was TO that day, and he detailed a player we both trust to keep an eye on everything. Fortunately, the damage was limited to one smoke launcher popped off the side of a chaos rhino.
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Post by: person person
Darkreaver55 wrote:I must go to a good store. I guess the fact that it is not in a mall but instead rather well hidden off one of the main drags plays in its favor there. For as long as I've been playing there, I don't think there have been any catastrophic demolitions whatsoever. There is always the occasional 'Oh crap I just dropped my Dire Avenger, where is his head?' but other than that it seems to be a model's paradise.
same
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Post by: Albatross
Next time someone picks one of your models up, just ask them how they would like one of THEIR arms snapped off.
Works for me.
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Post by: guardpiper
Wow, I feel very lucky, most of the gamers we have are older teenagers, 20s and older guys, so respect for on anther's models is pretty standard. Asking before picking up a model is standard. I think it helps that the owner has the 40k section away from the comics and is pretty strict with telling kids to ask before picking up models.
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Post by: nathonicus
MagickalMemories wrote:
It had been there long enough to dry up & the pee smell to go away. He had to scrub the whole model, losing his SPECTACULAR paint job in the process.
It was a sad day.
Eric
He could have just dedicated it to Nurgle.
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Post by: nivekdaork
ahh yes kids... I work in a tattoo shop, there is NOTHING in the world that gets my attention up than a kid walking into the shop. I have a "goodies" shelf and a couple of the miniatures are on them.
I swear every kid ignores the actual toys on the shelf and wants to touch them and them alone (thank god the shelf is high enough to stop it).
I explain to them it is NOT a toy, its just really small, model.. usually works. The problem is not the kids it's the friggen parents. Kids are not stupid - they just don't know, it doesn't occur to them that the tiny thing that looks like a toy isn't a toy, it is amazing how easily a problem can be averted by telling them they are not toys, just small fragile models. That and smackin the gak out of the parents - I mean seriously who brings a kid to a tattoo shop !!!??!
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Post by: hinch1
Archonate wrote:This story fills me with rage. Both toward the mother and her slowed spawn.
It seems that some time shortly after my generation, a majority parents mutually decided to not only let their children run wild doing whatever they want, but also fiercely defend said child from anyone telling them to knock it off. Ultimately not only refusing to parent, but also getting angry when somebody is forced to step in and parent in their behalf.
No kidding. I work in a game store, in a mall. So besides the fact that people mistake our sign for saying "free baby sitting" and bugger off to shop (i personally take no responsibility for anyone's children beyond reasonable safety, if they wander out and get lost then I'll call the police and have them come look, and mention that the parents abandoned them in my store).
Anyways, we have a demo table set up for 40k, Marines and Orks set up to show people how to play. A kid comes in, must have been under 5, his useless father leaves him at the demo table while he goes to look around the store. The child proceeds to take a marine in each hand and smash them together repeatedly. Seeing this, I walk up to the demo table and ask the child (calmly) to not handle the models like that.
The father comes up and sneers at me, telling me I "Don't have to be a dick, they are just toys." I shake my head, put the models back into place and say that he's welcome to buy a $40 tactical box, spend hours painting each one up, and if then see if he feels they are great toys for his kid to smash together. Otherwise, I'll be happy to bill him for the damaged models on my table
THAT was me being a dick.
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Post by: MagickalMemories
nivekdaork wrote:I mean seriously who brings a kid to a tattoo shop !!!??!
Me.
I've briought them all at one point or another.
My youngest was, like, 5 or 6 when she went. She was curious about the process.
Of course, my kids are well behaved and I okayed it with my artist ahead of time.
She sat in a chair alternating watching and playing with her barbie, depending on which one she was bored with at the moment.
If only MORE parents taught their kids those manners, this would be a boring thread. : (
Eric
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Post by: deffskullz
Meh No wonder everytime i walk into the store people stare at me like im going to pour simple green on everything
I'm a kid and for the warhammer generalization a bad thing but the worst ive done is pick up a conscript w/o asking and slowly putting it down when the guy scolded me
But, one time when i was playing a game a guy knocked over my figure case filled with models...some were broken etc. but nothing a little glue wouldn't fix but when i did a headcount 5 boyz were missing =(
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Post by: Necros
I broke a friend's model once :( he was showing me his newly painted vampire count guy with these big dragon wing thingies on the head. I looked it over and said it was cool, then I went to gently put it back on the table and for some reason (the place was haunted I think) the model spun upside down and landed on it's head and the wingies popped off. I felt like crap and I could tell he was pissed and hiding it :(
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Post by: WaaaaghLord
one time at my FLGS, i was using my Death Corps IG. all lovingly painted and converted, when this one kid comes over and picks up one of the lovingly painted guard grunts.
"its fine" i thought, "whats the worst that could happen"
next thing it falls onto the side of my new forgeworld Macharius superheavy and knocks most of the fine detail off the side. not a happy bunny.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
The words "What's the worst that could happen?" is almost always followed by rain, thunder, explosions, axe-wielding maniacs, zombies or a combination of the above.
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Post by: daedalusaf
had a kid come with his dad to my LGS once. I was having a game with my friend, and this 'dad' plopped the kid down in front us and told him to go watch.
The kid picks up a couple of my boyz that I set aside to pop out from a trukk later.
the first thing I thought was 'Oh boy! I heard of one of these horror stories! pray it doesn't happen to me'
We play on and the kid picks up my warboss who I just converted and glued. My heartbeat started increasing.
'It's ok' I said to the kid, as his 'dad', who didn't bat an eyelid throughout, kept on looking on.
The kid brings the boss to the side (to have a better look I guess).
Next thing I know he disappears from the room. I could still see the boss from where I was.
'Oh good'
Then my other friend who had been watching the whole scene came up to me and said...
'you know your boss is in pieces, right?'
I was like
... -_-'
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
...?
But you said you could still see the boss?
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
I have a buddy who was tired of people picking up his warboss. so he glued a bunch of sewing needles on it to deter the grabby lookies as he called em. Anyway one id have to say idiot, grabbed the boss stuck himself on one of the needles droped the thing and it got stuck in his foot. the boss was totaled, the guy beat a hasty retreat to the hospital for a tetnus shot and my buddy was banned from the FLGS for 2 weeks and wouldent be allowed to play untill he removed the needles from his models.
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Post by: squilverine
Hi Everyone,
I have been lurking on here for quite some time and reading this thread has finally prompted me to join up so i can add my two cents!
There are some real horror stories, all very good reasons to avoid taking my miniatures within a mile of a GW store, especialy considering that getting one model finished in less than two days is considered speed painting for me!
I remember not too long after getting into the hobby (I think i was about 9 at the time) I had most of my figures set up on the dinning room table, one of the neighbours drops her son off for my mum to look after for a couple of hours, he was a couple of years younger than me and the type of kid who was always having accidents (edited by Modquisition)
After seeing my miniatures he proceeds to start picking them up and play his own "special" version of army men, which mostly involved throwing them at each other, after telling him to stop that he then went into a sulk and started putting them in his mouth and sucking on them.
I proceeded to tell him that they were made from lead and that he now probably had lead poisoning, I then told him he would most likely be dead in a couple of days. Needless to say that his mum was less than impressed to return to find a hysterical son who was convinced he was going to die
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Post by: Da GeneruL
There was one guy, who was using tau, who i was playing against a couple of months back with my very nicely painted krieg guard army.
Needless to say, when it came time to pack up (i had won, thank god), he began to "help" me as he got finished packing first.
He passed me what only can be described as a "mass" of krieg models, having just picked up a handful of them, all bar three of the models he picked up had the front of the las guns snapped of, not to mention damaged vox casters.
I cried internaly.
Another incident was when i had just finished a conversion for the Masque, a deamonized celistine with wings, then when my back was turned, just for a second, a guy wandered over picked up the model (without asking) and wandered over to the gaming tables with it, where the was a game on between SoB and Chaos.
He then removed the SoB player's saint (which was in play, also without asking) and replaced it with my chaosified version, stating that "this is the TRUE celistine."
Luckily i knew the SoB player, and he returned it to me promptly returned it to me, as i didn't know where it was.
The guy who did it was 16.
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Post by: squilverine
A more recent story from me,
My house mate is the direct opposite of me, he is a football playing health freak who veiws any other past times with distain, he also is an obsesive clean freak.
I have a book case in the dinning room where I have some of my better painting efforts on display, I get home one saturday to find my Empire standard bearer with a snapped off arm and my LotR army of the dead sporting several nasty chips, I decide to let it go as I assume he was carefuly dusting and knocked them by accident.
The next week I see him grab the duster and polish and head for the book case (which was dust free, I hasten to add!) he proceeds to pick up a handful of my best painted minatures and toss them onto the table, I ask him what the hell he thinks he is doing. He tells me that he needed to get my "toys" out of the way, I said for him to leave them as he was damaging them but he continued any way, muttering about them making the house look a mess. This was the straw that broke the camels back as he had been acting like a tool for quite some time.
He was rather shocked when I grabbed him by the arm and threatened to break his fingers if he didn't show my "toys" some more respect. Funnily enough i haven't had a single chip since
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Post by: waaagh!orksrocks
ManwithIronHands wrote:I have a buddy who was tired of people picking up his warboss. so he glued a bunch of sewing needles on it to deter the grabby lookies as he called em. Anyway one id have to say idiot, grabbed the boss stuck himself on one of the needles droped the thing and it got stuck in his foot. the boss was totaled, the guy beat a hasty retreat to the hospital for a tetnus shot and my buddy was banned from the FLGS for 2 weeks and wouldent be allowed to play untill he removed the needles from his models.
Personally I think you're buddy was in the right here but I can see where the store owner was coming from
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Post by: lord of corn
grizgrin wrote:Had a kid accidentally dump a coke into about 4,000 points of BA once. Total, total accident, saw it happen; but damn it took some control to keep it together.
this happened to me once, i was unpacking my Tau and these two kids were oogling my models and one dumped his entire can of coke into my army transport, all over the models and the foam soaked up all the coke. i know he felt bad and it was everything i could do to keep the blood rage of khorne from overtaking me.
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
squilverine wrote:I proceeded to tell him that they were made from lead and that he now probably had lead poisoning, I then told him he would most likely be dead in a couple of days. Needless to say that his mum was less than impressed to return to find a hysterical son who was convinced he was going to die
The origonal metal models were made of a lead tin alloy back in the early days (early 80s).
Last month I was playing an Apoc game at a buddys place, didnt have a table big enough for the 120,000 point game so we had to use the floor. His parents had jsut waxed it and I was wearing socks (I had a really bad gash from droping my modelign knife blade down into my foot) so it was quite slick. Now I know what your thinking but that didnt happen I'm misleading you. My buddy's dog got out of the room we locked it in so it wouldnt disturb our game. Now the dog was quite excited because there was more people at the house to give it attention and possibly treats, so it comes running down the stairs, down the hall. we hear this and are able to intercept him before he comes into the room were using for our game (HAH another mislead). After this the game goes off without a hitch or broken model (for such a large game it didnt take too long only about 7 hours). we all pack up and start loading our vehicles with our models. we say our fare wells and go home. I got home without a hitch.
one of my other friends cant say that. he got rear ended at a red lightr and lost about 20000 points of models including 2 Forgeworld warhound titans and 3 origonal release Forgeworld baneblades (his serial numbers were in the low hundreds). this was all covered by the insurance company, but its a shame to have to rebuild and repain all of that.
I guess this doesnt quite qualify as a model molestation but its still quite gakky
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Post by: Lordhat
So having made BEAUTIFUL tables for the FLGS I worked at, I have one that isn't about models. Here's the item in question:
So this table was never expected to remain in pristine condition, but one day I find somebody's little snot poking the end of his measuring stick into the board as deep as he could. Rage ensues, threats of broken fingers commence, parents are called. After much heated discussion about threatening children I do agree that it was the wrong way to approach the situation and proceed to tell the parents that it was THEIR fault for treating me like a babysitter (the kids were brothers, the oldest was 10), without as much as giving the children a 'behave yourself and listen to the adult in charge'. They were suitably chagrined and apologized, and asked how much to replace the table. After calculating costs (which wasn't hard because we had already done that for tax purposes), adding in my labour on it at $10.00/hour and standard retail markup, then adding a discount because the kids WERE regulars, I told them $350, to replace it. They were undestandably upset. I then told them that the table did not need replacing, but only because I caught the kids in the act, and that telling their kids to act like human beings or else they would be banned for a month would be recompense enough. This worked only because the parents liked to drop their kids off at the shop while they went to the bar (in the same strip mall) and relaxed with THEIR friends; the bar owner was the Mom's brother, and a friend of ours as well. Reaching the parents was a matter of a phone call and a 2 min walk, and even if the parents weren't there, the kids uncle or aunt usually was.
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Post by: Albatross
Man, why is everyone on here so mellow? It's to all of your credit of course, but still...if someone picked up one of my miniatures without asking they'd get a slap as a matter of course! Well, maybe nothing that extreme, but miniatures are so expensive and time consuming to collect/paint etc. the rule should be look with your eyes, not with your hands! That's how I was brought up.
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Post by: person person
My little brother and all his friends have this weird thing where "Can I look?" is permission to touch something.
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Post by: smart_alex
I dont care if its a new store or not. I always immediatly saw "Please dont touch my stuff". Ignorant people somtimes wander in and think it's the stores stuff. Thier stupidity only exacerbated by their clear love of rap music.
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Post by: BeefyG
LOL nice way to insult the masses alex.
What's with the placidity and repression?
Just slap the kids. You are bigger than them. Actually even if they are bigger and older than you slap them anyway. There is no age limit on learning.
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Post by: grimz
Hmm I wonder what happens if your models were destroyed some how (out of your house) if they would be covered by insurance
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Post by: Witzkatz
Yesterday there way a little incident at our local GW store that has reinforced my position of never bringing models to the shop.
It's a rather small shop, but it has a nice gaming table with lots of gnarled trees, all nicely painted, fragile as they are in some parts. I was just waiting to buy myself a Valkyrie (yay!) as three little kids come running in. One asks if they sell YGO here, asks "Whuzzat?" in relation to the gaming table, which is okay I guess. However, it seems they get paid to deliver free newspapers (of the crappy sort) to every address in the street...so on of the kids looks around where to dump the newspaper and casually drops it onto the gaming table, quite right on some of the trees. While paper generally isn't that heavy, a bundled newspaper...well. I think it luckily caused no real damage. That was the moment where the manager told 'em to not drop that stuff there right on the models and please take it away, because he doesn't need that crappy free newspaper. I handed that kid the paper back and they reluctantly left the store.
Well, nothing like the stories some of you tell here, but nevertheless. There was a nicely painted Valkyrie a few inches to the left, and someone was painting an old MkII Predator not far away! Won't please someone think of the Valkyries!
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Post by: smart_alex
@BeffyG, see in America we are plagued by this thing called wannabe ganstas. They come into stores trying to impress thier Gf's by speaking like SNoop Doggy dog and tossing models around and wearing pants that look like they defacated in. I've seen them come into stores and throw models around not knowing how much work goes into them.
Pretty much anyway you put it, rap music has rotted these people's brain's into mush. I grew up an a ghetto and so first hand I saw how full of crap these people are. Now I live close to the beach and am glad I got away from them. THis is why I will not play in malls. Too many stupid "gangstas" coming in trying to be "Tough"
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Post by: Albatross
Grimz - that insurance idea is a great one.
As a musician in the UK, your Musician's union membership entitles your instruments to insurance wherever they are ( in a studio, a car etc.) in case they get nicked or damaged.
A collection of miniatures is just as expensive as a medium priced guitar, so someone should come up with 'Gamer's Insurance' deffo.
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Post by: HellsGuardian316
Direct Line did this for me, my household things were insured off the premises up to a value of £500, so if I lost or broke my camera, mobile or things like that, they would replace it up to the value of £500, I also made sure that it covered my miniatures and it did.
Thankfully I never needed to claim but was worth having and not just for the miniatures either
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Post by: squilverine
I couldn't agree more about making sure your miniatures are covered in your house insurance, it is also worth noting that many insurers will ask if you have any "high risk" items which could easily be removed. Generaly they are thinking of laptops and xboxes but that £500 Reaver titan is just the same. If you dont declare it/them, then you may well find them not paying out.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Also beware of excesses.
It's fine to insure something for £500 but if there is a £250 excess you will be well out of pocket if something happens.
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
Kilkrazy wrote:Also beware of excesses.
It's fine to insure something for £500 but if there is a £250 excess you will be well out of pocket if something happens.
yeah I dont know what I'd do if my army got totaled. when I go to my FLGS I generally onyl have 3-400$ worth but if I got to an apoc game at a buddys place I'm generally dragging around 2000$+.
anyway lets get this thread back on course, vet night at my FLGS last night, I was running a 30 sternguard pedro list. some of my models I havent gotten around to painting yet but some guy probly in his late 20s jsut comes up and starts grabbing one of the unpainted ones off the table and starts examining it, after about 5 seconds too long looking at it he tells me theres no paint on it, I say yeah would you please put the guy back on the table I'm playing a game here. For some reason he took offence and threw the model back onto the table, which is made with insulation foam, the model is burried head first upto its waist in the table. Now I couldent see my face but my opponent said it was red and I looked like I was about to have a vain burst in my forehead. I had my fist clenched so tight around my dice cup that it cracked.
before I could unleash the wrath of the emporer on him the store manager had jumped between us and banned the guy from the store(this seems to happen to alot of people dont it)
I wish I had a pic of the model in the table because it was quite funny.
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Post by: niceas
Never had problems like the ones described here, fortunately. Mostly what happens at the local GW is that some of the kids will nick a model off the table if it is near the edge. I know who to look for, and so I've managed to get several of them banned.
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Post by: Auxellion
I had the local "Store" kid snip off the tails to all of my Carnifexs before. I put quite a bit of time painting and highlighting these models. And he comes over with clippers and CLIPS THE TAILS. (Short Ends of them)
Now I pinned a bit of them and added the mace/scyth tail to all of my fexs with some greenstuff work. It looks fine now. I didn't see the kid do it, but it was more of a: "He's not looking hahaha" *Destructive Behavior*
Now that same kid sits at home and plays WoW and Magic.... And I have mentally damaged Carnifexs....
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Post by: grizgrin
Albatross wrote:Man, why is everyone on here so mellow? It's to all of your credit of course, but still...if someone picked up one of my miniatures without asking they'd get a slap as a matter of course! Well, maybe nothing that extreme, but miniatures are so expensive and time consuming to collect/paint etc. the rule should be look with your eyes, not with your hands! That's how I was brought up.
We are so placid because we live in reality. Slap a child, especially one that isn't yours, and you will get introduced to a whole new world of gak you never before knew existed. Have to agree with your rule as stated, however. In general I don't like touching other peoples models, even if my friends ask for help picking some up. I will do it, but I don't like it. I've dropped my own models on accident before, would HATE it if I did the same to someone elses.
BeefyG wrote:LOL nice way to insult the masses alex.
What's with the placidity and repression?
Just slap the kids. You are bigger than them. Actually even if they are bigger and older than you slap them anyway. There is no age limit on learning.
Can you take some pictures or video of this next time you implement it? I would REALLY love ot see it.
grimz wrote:Hmm I wonder what happens if your models were destroyed some how (out of your house) if they would be covered by insurance
Typically no on this side of the pond. Some special insurance policies will cover contents of homes, rentals, and vehicles incase of Something Bad happening, but in general those policies are for the items stated, not what's contained in them. But it is possible to get such things insured, sure. Lloyd's will insure any-fething-thing on earth, for a price.
Auxellion wrote:I had the local "Store" kid snip off the tails to all of my Carnifexs before. I put quite a bit of time painting and highlighting these models. And he comes over with clippers and CLIPS THE TAILS. (Short Ends of them)
Now I pinned a bit of them and added the mace/scyth tail to all of my fexs with some greenstuff work. It looks fine now. I didn't see the kid do it, but it was more of a: "He's not looking hahaha" *Destructive Behavior*
Now that same kid sits at home and plays WoW and Magic.... And I have mentally damaged Carnifexs....
What the feth could have been going through his head ot have motivated him to do that?
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Post by: squilverine
Auxellion wrote:I had the local "Store" kid snip off the tails to all of my Carnifexs before. I put quite a bit of time painting and highlighting these models. And he comes over with clippers and CLIPS THE TAILS. (Short Ends of them)
Now I pinned a bit of them and added the mace/scyth tail to all of my fexs with some greenstuff work. It looks fine now. I didn't see the kid do it, but it was more of a: "He's not looking hahaha" *Destructive Behavior*
Now that same kid sits at home and plays WoW and Magic.... And I have mentally damaged Carnifexs....
Someone accidentaly breaking a model or getting their grubby paw prints on it I can just about accept, but if someone blatantly damaged any of my possesions on purpose they would earn themselves a kicking. At some point everyone has to learn there are consequences for unacceptable behaviour, normaly painful ones
However I must say, well done for keeping your cool, you are a better man than I.
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Post by: carmachu
Albatross wrote:Man, why is everyone on here so mellow? It's to all of your credit of course, but still...if someone picked up one of my miniatures without asking they'd get a slap as a matter of course! Well, maybe nothing that extreme, but miniatures are so expensive and time consuming to collect/paint etc. the rule should be look with your eyes, not with your hands! That's how I was brought up.
So...you would slap someone's kid? While I sympthaize about folks and their minis and not being damaged, if you think the anger over broken minis is bad, its nothing compared to an enraged parent. And nothing justifies your stance.
Grow up. Seriously. Automatically Appended Next Post: BeefyG wrote:LOL nice way to insult the masses alex.
What's with the placidity and repression?
Just slap the kids. You are bigger than them. Actually even if they are bigger and older than you slap them anyway. There is no age limit on learning.
Yeah, the tough guy act. Lets get something clear:
Here's a man who slap a 2 year old in walmart for crying:
http://news.aol.com/article/man-slaps-child-in-walmart/653392
He faces felony cruelty to children. Keep that in mind the next time you get the tough guy act about slapping kids.
I sympathize, I really really do. But "he touched my models" defense is probably not going to hold up in court.
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Post by: grizgrin
Bet if that kids dad had been in attendance he wouldn't have slapped that kid.
Oh, and thanks for making the internet tough guy call, squilverine and carmachu.
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Post by: carmachu
grizgrin wrote:Bet if that kids dad had been in attendance he wouldn't have slapped that kid.
Oh, and thanks for making the internet tough guy call, squilverine and carmachu.
Its not really a problem. I see it on alot of levels- as a business owner in a mall who constantly cleans finger prints off said(non- GW) products, who politely and someties not so politely ask them not to touch.
As player of GW games, I hav alot of sympathy here.
But as a parent? Yeah I can safely say there isnt one person in this thread despite the tough talk, thats actually going to slap a kid. For no other reason that there be a world of touble dropped on your head if you did. Legal or Otherwise.
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Post by: Frenzied Potato
For the majority of children a strong tone with decent volume (not to the point of yelling) works pretty well. As for the punkers / wannabe's / mallrats short of hovering over your models and telling them 'no'; there is not much you can do to them. The day and age of beating someone for reasons beyond defense has past as valid / legal / norm.
Honestly all one can really hope for is respect for the time and effort of the miniatures.
We know the road most of these kids follow and how it ends for a large majority for them. Not that it should give you any satisfaction but keep that in mind when you feel retribution should be in order.
Carmachu, I agree with your post especially the last note about crossing the line to physical contact. In most cases legality is the least of your worries. Touching someones child for any reason is usually returned ten fold.
As for my horror stories thankfully I am my worst enemy. I tend to 'godzilla' my models when I dont put them away for the night come back the following morning waking up tired walking around and crunch crunch...now only if I can breath fire as I scream in agony from the pieces.
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Post by: Sidstyler
I'm just curious carmachu, if it was your child who destroyed a $50+ model, would you take responsibility for your child's actions and offer to replace the model? Or would you tell said person to piss off because their case won't hold up in court?
In either case, the man slapping a kid in Wal-Mart is just deplorable. Crying children are a fact of life and something you can't control so easily...however it's very easy to avoid situations in which someone's property ends up being destroyed, either teach your kid the basics and make them stay close to mom/dad, keep their hands to themselves, no running etc., or simply avoid taking them out in public if you can't keep them under control. I do my part to avoid situations like this by keeping a close eye on my stuff, so don't be an idiot and let your kids run around unchecked and we should all live happily ever after.
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Post by: grizgrin
We should Sid, but there are those who let their kids run them.
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Post by: Albatross
So you didn't read my post? Seriously, go back and read it.
You'll notice that I qualify the 'slap' statement, saying 'probably nothing that extreme...', but whatever, some people like to be 'outraged'.
Of course I wouldn't slap a child! I am a father myself, and would never physically discipline my son. But it is interesting that you assumed I was talking about a kid. A fair amount of these stories include adults, in what essentially is (or should be?) a kid's hobby. In that respect, the 'grow up' comment is pretty laughable.
As for the 'internet tough-guy stuff... whatever! If you prefer impotent rage... that's your business. I've never let anyone kick sand in my face, metaphorically or otherwise - that doesn't make me a wannabe tough-guy,
it just means I'm not a fanny.
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Post by: carmachu
Frenzied Potato wrote:For the majority of children a strong tone with decent volume (not to the point of yelling) works pretty well. As for the punkers / wannabe's / mallrats short of hovering over your models and telling them 'no'; there is not much you can do to them. The day and age of beating someone for reasons beyond defense has past as valid / legal / norm.
Honestly all one can really hope for is respect for the time and effort of the miniatures.
Young kids, by the very nature, arecurios creatures. tdoesn excuse their actions, but they want to see what that new thing is. DOesnt matter if its a player piano or GW model.
And yes, the authorative tone works. Doesnt actually have volume. I've quietly slid up to kids and said in normal tones "please dont touch that" or just looked at them and shaken my head. You do need to take control of the situation.
sidstlyer wrote:I'm just curious carmachu, if it was your child who destroyed a $50+ model, would you take responsibility for your child's actions and offer to replace the model? Or would you tell said person to piss off because their case won't hold up in court?
That all depends. If you laid a hand on the child good chances are no. Otherwise yeah. Liek I said, I've been on all the other levels in retail on the kid issue. My daughter who is 6 for example, is weet and would be asking me if she could touh them-and good chances are she's not going touch it on her own. The two year old boy, however, is an engine of destruction and I keep him on a VERY short leash. Because he will, if he gets his hands on a model, wing it across the room.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Sidstyler wrote: either teach your kid the basics and make them stay close to mom/dad, keep their hands to themselves, no running etc., or simply avoid taking them out in public if you can't keep them under control. I do my part to avoid situations like this by keeping a close eye on my stuff, so don't be an idiot and let your kids run around unchecked and we should all live happily ever after.
But also on the flip side? Keep in mind kids are curious by nature. Especially the yonger ones. Doesnt mean you have to let them touch them. But I've found if you take the moment to show them, it goes a long way. That goes for the under middle school age.....once they get that old, your on your own and they should know better.
Hell, I have found adults far worse then kids at least at my store....
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Post by: Grimm
I once had someone place my Skink in their mouth before placing it back on the table and then walking off.
On another note, I would never slap, scream at or abuse another player/kid for touching my minis.
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Post by: cRaZy_MaChEtE_mAn
I mad a custom chapter master for my mariens. He was emporer's champion+dante's backpack+ a power sword on his hand. I spent 5 hours planning paint job, 3 hours painting it and all my best paints. SO my first game, he is domanting middle of the table and my dev squad is on the table edge. This thing(named child by others) jumps on the table so he can pick up my custom chapter master . He scrapes some paint off it. His belly slew my dreadnought in two and my dev squad had been destroyed 30+ parts 5 models.
Same model. I finish doing some detail and green stuff fire. I go to qfc for some hot pockets and soda(10 mins tops) when i come back he is painted GREEN snot green. I saw some kid painting it. Im 14 and i wanted get khorne all over the 10 year olds face. I had to be civil and i asked him why he did it, he said: it looked stupid no green at all, so why not repaint it and take off his shield? It was my model and we all shared right. Kid wasnt there for a month.
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Post by: squilverine
grizgrin wrote:Bet if that kids dad had been in attendance he wouldn't have slapped that kid.
Oh, and thanks for making the internet tough guy call, squilverine and carmachu.
Maybe I could have been clearer in my post, I was not suggesting that I would ever hurt a child, in fact the idea of it sickens me.
However if an adult deliberatly damaged my property then yes I would stand up for myself. I was perhaps exagerating when I suggested "giving someone a kicking" but then again what would your reaction be if you saw someone keying your car or smashing a window on your house? Deliberate damage to anothers property is criminal damage, just because it is directed towards lead soldiers does not detract from the seriousness of the action.
I firmly believe that if people are allowed to get away with this sort of thing unchallenged then we leave the door open for it to become veiwed as acceptable. When I was younger and seriously misbehaved then I got a smacked arse. Subsequently I learn't that it is not cool to bully people, steal things or damage property.
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Post by: Frenzied Potato
squilverine wrote:grizgrin wrote:Bet if that kids dad had been in attendance he wouldn't have slapped that kid.
Oh, and thanks for making the internet tough guy call, squilverine and carmachu.
Maybe I could have been clearer in my post, I was not suggesting that I would ever hurt a child, in fact the idea of it sickens me.
However if an adult deliberatly damaged my property then yes I would stand up for myself. I was perhaps exagerating when I suggested "giving someone a kicking" but then again what would your reaction be if you saw someone keying your car or smashing a window on your house? Deliberate damage to anothers property is criminal damage, just because it is directed towards lead soldiers does not detract from the seriousness of the action.
I firmly believe that if people are allowed to get away with this sort of thing unchallenged then we leave the door open for it to become veiwed as acceptable. When I was younger and seriously misbehaved then I got a smacked arse. Subsequently I learn't that it is not cool to bully people, steal things or damage property.
Do not forget society dictates acceptable behavior. Though recently it looks like it is finally going back to being ok to discipline your own child without social services coming to your door.
I can't think of the person who said this but the qoute goes, "Nothing is more dangerous then ignorance in action."
Its a grey, grey line.
Back on topic though: We had the driveway eat a box by force by attacking one of our players and eating its contents ie: he fell, the box opened up and chaos space marines deepstriked everywhere.
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Post by: Auxellion
I had a mother of a small child walk up to me and comment on my painting. Mid Game. She picked up on of the Carnifexs.
I explained to her that we were in the middle of the game, she said she knew where it went. She looked at a few of the other players space marine figures, placing them back down in the general area of where they went. That was fine. She hung around at another table with her little son. The husband (I'm guessing) came in and was looking around as well with the son. (The son was maybe 14 or 15.) Everything was fine, me and my opponent continued the game. He was wearing a GT Baltimore shirt. This started the mother talking.
By far the most amusing conversation ever. The Mother was telling her son something along the lines of "When you get older like these other kids you can go to the big tournament in Baltimore. "It's like the final four in Pokemon." and a bunch of other kids go there. "It's a world wide event." I didn't comment on the conversation. My opponent did. He told her no, they had a few big tounramnets and they were around 150 people there and itwas more of an adult game.
She responded along the lines of "Don't ruin it for him, he's just a child!" "Don't tease him and knocked over one of my opponent's Dreadnaughts. Then leaving the store with the kid. My opponent was about 15. I was 17 at the time.....
She told the GW staffer who justed avoided doing anything. I thought it was funny.
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Post by: Henners91
Only major molestation of one of my models was done by myself...
I was painting a terminator Chaplain that was my first metal figure; I'd found him quite fiddly to put together (because of the triangular studs having to be lined up to fit his arms on)... Anyhoo, my friend was over and as I finished the last brush strokes I thrust him into the air exclaiming "He's finished!"
He flew out of my hand... clipped my metal desk, and his arm broke off; with the stud still inside his torso; now he's very fiddly to stick together... But hasn't broken in a long while (Thank God).
Buuuut my Techmarine is a different story; I accidentally warped one of the studs on his servo harness' plasma cutter (clumsy clipping on my part); this NEVER fails to break off whenever he is transported and has no grip on it at all :-/
I should try this "pinning" thing; but I have no idea how it works... hrm, NEW THREAD TIME!
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Post by: carmachu
squilverine wrote:
Maybe I could have been clearer in my post, I was not suggesting that I would ever hurt a child, in fact the idea of it sickens me.
I'm sure you werent, My point was being that criminal law the "he broke my model" isnt going to stand up in court.
However if an adult deliberatly damaged my property then yes I would stand up for myself. I was perhaps exagerating when I suggested "giving someone a kicking" but then again what would your reaction be if you saw someone keying your car or smashing a window on your house? Deliberate damage to anothers property is criminal damage, just because it is directed towards lead soldiers does not detract from the seriousness of the action.
I firmly believe that if people are allowed to get away with this sort of thing unchallenged then we leave the door open for it to become veiwed as acceptable. When I was younger and seriously misbehaved then I got a smacked arse. Subsequently I learn't that it is not cool to bully people, steal things or damage property.
Right. You should absolutely stand up for yourself whether its an adult or a child and you have to deal with their parents, if they broke your model.
Neither of those examples still gives you the right to slap someone. Granted you will WANT to, but legalisticly, you have no standing to hit them. Civilly you cant make them pay.
Personally I have ALOT less patience for adults then I do for kids. Kids geneally are curious, adults should and do know better.
Yes I got a swat n the bottom. But thats from my parents. No one else gets to do that.
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Post by: Albatross
Yes I got a swat n the bottom. But thats from my parents. No one else gets to do that.
Not what I've heard...
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Post by: squilverine
carmachu wrote:squilverine wrote:
Maybe I could have been clearer in my post, I was not suggesting that I would ever hurt a child, in fact the idea of it sickens me.
I'm sure you werent, My point was being that criminal law the "he broke my model" isnt going to stand up in court.
However if an adult deliberatly damaged my property then yes I would stand up for myself. I was perhaps exagerating when I suggested "giving someone a kicking" but then again what would your reaction be if you saw someone keying your car or smashing a window on your house? Deliberate damage to anothers property is criminal damage, just because it is directed towards lead soldiers does not detract from the seriousness of the action.
I firmly believe that if people are allowed to get away with this sort of thing unchallenged then we leave the door open for it to become veiwed as acceptable. When I was younger and seriously misbehaved then I got a smacked arse. Subsequently I learn't that it is not cool to bully people, steal things or damage property.
Right. You should absolutely stand up for yourself whether its an adult or a child and you have to deal with their parents, if they broke your model.
Neither of those examples still gives you the right to slap someone. Granted you will WANT to, but legalisticly, you have no standing to hit them. Civilly you cant make them pay.
Personally I have ALOT less patience for adults then I do for kids. Kids geneally are curious, adults should and do know better.
Yes I got a swat n the bottom. But thats from my parents. No one else gets to do that.
I agree that in court using the excuse that someone broke my property would not excuse physical violence, however it would have a significant bearing on any case as it would be classed as severe provocation. A jury would most likely look in sympathy towards someone who had caught another damaging their property and would not be inclined to find against the defendant. This alone would probably mean that unless someone was significantly hurt (not what I was intending to potray myself as being capable of!) it is unlikely the Police would even charge you let alone the CPS considering taking it to court.
With regards to slaping children, I couldn't agree more, only a parent (or guardian) has the right to do this, and even then it should only be considered as a last resort in the most extreme of cases.
When I suggested hitting someone i.e. an adult, who was wantonely damaging my property. I wasn't trying to come across as some sort of internet Jean Claude Van Damme! I merely meant that, that would probably be the first reaction to go across my mind. Sadly the truth is that i am the direct opposite and the only thing that should feel threatened by me these days is a bacon roll!
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Post by: Tauzor
squilverine wrote:carmachu wrote:squilverine wrote:
I agree that in court using the excuse that someone broke my property would not excuse physical violence
No but you can use force to prevent damage before it happens
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Post by: carmachu
squilverine wrote:
I agree that in court using the excuse that someone broke my property would not excuse physical violence, however it would have a significant bearing on any case as it would be classed as severe provocation. A jury would most likely look in sympathy towards someone who had caught another damaging their property and would not be inclined to find against the defendant. This alone would probably mean that unless someone was significantly hurt (not what I was intending to potray myself as being capable of!) it is unlikely the Police would even charge you let alone the CPS considering taking it to court.
mmmm, no. You're speculating. I can pretty much guarentee that if you slap someone for picking up your model, and then putting it back and it breaks, your not going to get much sympathy.
In my example of walmart, the 2 year old wasnt hurt for 4 slaps to the face by the 61 year old. YET he faces FELONY count of cruelty to children. How much are you willing to gamble jail time for slapping some kid or hitting some adult over your model?
Felony cruelty to children, by the way is 5-20 years.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_cruelty_to_children_in_GA_a_felony
How sure are you that a jury will see it your way over a broken model? You are speculating WAY to much that police wouldnt arresst you( CPS BTW is only for investigating families. You hit a stranger's kid, its the police all the way). If the parent wants to press charges, you will be in front of a judge.
Having said all that, again, you should stand for yourself over the model. Hitting? yeah thats goingto bring a world of crap upon your head.
With regards to slaping children, I couldn't agree more, only a parent (or guardian) has the right to do this, and even then it should only be considered as a last resort in the most extreme of cases.
When I suggested hitting someone i.e. an adult, who was wantonely damaging my property. I wasn't trying to come across as some sort of internet Jean Claude Van Damme! I merely meant that, that would probably be the first reaction to go across my mind. Sadly the truth is that i am the direct opposite and the only thing that should feel threatened by me these days is a bacon roll!
It may be your first inclination, but its still the wrong one.
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Post by: squilverine
Please be aware that I am speaking from a UK legal veiwpoint, A subject which i have studied. I was also not talking about hitting a child over dropping a miniature, I was talking about slapping an adult who deliberatly caused damage to property, not accidentaly.
However you are completely right, violence is not the right reaction, but sometimes it is the first one.
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Post by: nathonicus
C'mon, guys! All this bickering over legality/morality of slapping other people's children is seriously derailing a fun and horrifying thread!
In an effort to get back on topic:
When I was first playing WHFB nigh on 12 years ago, my buddy and I had no gaming table and no Friendly Local with one, so we played on a green sheet on the floor in the basement. In addition to being hard on the knees, this had the additional peril of putting everything in range of the cat.
I had a Lizardman army with a converted Stegadon made from a really nice Museum replica of a Styracosaurus. The great thing about this, is it was mostly one piece, and made from a very dense, rubber-like plastic.
This was good as the cat would inevitably sneak past our guard during the course of our enormous floor battles, spring nimbly over all the units on the board (without touching or upsetting a single one), then whack the living daylights out of the poor stegadon before bolting out of the room like lightning.
It always amazed me that the Stegadon was the only target of his feline aggression.
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Post by: hancock.tom
Cats could be a whole nother thread!
My Cat is an agent of chaos who simultaneously all four of the chaos gods.
I have lost models to my kitty's bloodthirsty agression (khorne) disgusting litterbox filth (nurgle), found models horribly deformed and mutated (tzeentch). I think all of this is the result of the cat's prideful and hedonistic existence (slaanesh).
Probably the worst was the model he carried into the litterbox.... nothing like scooping out the box, some litter is sifting out of the scoop, and what you thought was a small turd is actually your raptor champion with a powersword...
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Post by: squilverine
I have also had an army suffer the ravages of the furry feline god of war, my house mates cat Oscar will quite hapily swipe miniatures from the table or window sill if they are in the way of him finding a comfortable spot to lick his balls.
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Post by: J'santai Khan
I have heard of a case in Ohio, where an army was mauled by a 4 or 5 year old, who wasn't being supervised in a FLGS. The parent and owner of said models got into a heated argument and the police were called. After the officer arrived, listened to both sides, etc. he asked the value of the minis in question, time needed to replace them , etc. and promptly presented the proud father with a ticket for aggravated criminal damaging. Supposedly, the guy fought it in court, lost AND had to make restitution to the guy who owned the minis. Buddy of mine who is a cop has been telling that story for a LONGGGGG time, so, maybe there is a legal way to handle it! LOL!!!
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Post by: Tarondor
There have been many cases of this with my army, friends armies etc but I have a story of the opposite nature.
I recently went to one of my closest friends houses. He had his orks on a not very high shelf during a party with lots of people walking in and out of his room, some trying to pic up his minis etc.
He knew I was a veteran but when I politely asked if I could pick up a mini he would basically say no, as if I'd break them, even the ones that were sturdly glued with minimal pieces, the fact he was drunk might of been a factor to his 'prissy-ness' as he told my girlfriend she couldnt pick them up but eventually let me and I was a lot more careful with them than him.
This brings up the case of people who're too over-protective or uptight with their miniatures. Now I don't blame my friend or scorn him for it but you do meet people who think there's a big chance of you breaking their mini even though they handle them properlly, many people encountered these types?
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Post by: Neith
I have two horror stories. I'll save the best for last though.
First one was my very first Store Battle. It was Tyranids vs Space Marines, and I'd brought along some of my 'nids. Of course, I got asked to share out some of my models with people who hadn't brought any along. Most of the guys were fine, but this one guy kept picking up my Ravener Brood (5 Raveners, some of which were converted). The guy must've had butter fingers, because within 2 minutes he'd dropped one of them (totally annihilated it as it hit the store floor), and broken the Scything Talons off a 2nd one. It irritated me, but I fixed them up after the battle.
The worst time was when I'd bought a Bloodthirster. This was my first large Daemon, and I was having trouble with adding the wings. The staff member in GW suggested pinning the joint, and offered kindly to do the first wing for me. As he glues the first wing into place, he goes to serve a customer at the desk...but his sweater catches onto the clawed wing of the Bloodthirster, pulling it off a 3ft high table, again hitting the floor. The body, head, horns, one arm and the wing all came off. The staff member looked round and couldn't apologise enough (thankfully it wasn't painted or anything). He couldn't resist joking about it though:
As I walked out the shop after buying some stuff, he says 'Sorry about the 'Thirster, but you know how to pin the joints now!'
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Post by: Commissar Molotov
Wow - the kids in my FLGS are much better behaved than that...
They'll stick their snotty noses over the edge of the gaming table and LOOK, but they never try to touch.
Y'all have made me appreciate them a lot more!
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
I remember seeing a flying Forgeworld greater deamon of khorne, it caught good air, like 5 or 6 seconds of hang time, went like 20 feet. then hit a cement wall and shattered upon impact with it and the floor.
I dont know the circumstances of the beggining of hte flight, but I do know the aftermath. The parents of the kid responsible for the launch was out a few hundered bucks.
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Post by: DeathTyrant
I shuddered inside reading some onf these.
Yes, I will be the first to admit that they are toys, but they are of course fairly fragile toys, and they often require plenty of work to assemble and paint.
Then there is of course the cost! I bet a lot of these parents would let their kids run amok in a store that sold paintings for £30+ each.
Yet someone's custom-converted, green-putty-extras sculpted, Master Painted Daemon Prince is fair game to smash?
Makes my blood boil.
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Post by: Albatross
So... would it be OK to slap someone's cat?
Joke!! JOKE!!!
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
Yes it would be ok to slap a cat, I do it all the time its part of pack behavior, if you dont show your cat whos boss it deficates in your shoes.
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Post by: Eidolon
I started playing when i was 12, and have bought almost all my models from money i made working paper routes and real jobs. This has given me respect for people, so i was never the kid who touched all your models. I did break someones russ, but they left the back half hanging off the table when i walked by. I also accidently dropped a guys marine commander, but the gun just fell off.
A story from a friend of mine about a tournament he went to goes like this.
This guy has this amazingly done adeptus mechanicus guard army. Everything is well converted, painted to beautiful standards etc. He leaves it sitting on his army board, one of those big wood boards you use to carry your army around at a tournament. But he left half the board hanging off the table edge. So some great big dude comes running buy with a sandwich, looking for his table since hes late coming back. And he bumps right into this guys army tray. You could see the thing fall in slow motion, models hitting the ground, tubes and lasguns and bits going everything. The guy who bumped the tray looks down, says "oh i see your playing drop troops" and just goes on his way.
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Post by: davetaylor
Coming into this one a bit late. I was at a gaming club meeting on Saturday and saw an older gentleman playing a game of Napoleonics with another gentleman's 15mm miniatures (the owner was present and running the game).
When the first man found that he didn't have room to place the stand of skirmishers ahead of his block of tiny Austrians, he simply balanced the stand on top of the fragile bayonets. The owner's response will always stand out as one of the best responses I've heard:
"Dear God man! Don't stack my models!"
Cheers
Dave
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
Once saw a guy (at least 25) take a leak in a kids (12 or 13) army box after he lost to him.
The guy got banned from the store and got arrested for public indecency.
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Post by: grizgrin
Albatross wrote:So you didn't read my post? Seriously, go back and read it.
You'll notice that I qualify the 'slap' statement, saying 'probably nothing that extreme...', but whatever, some people like to be 'outraged'.
Of course I wouldn't slap a child! I am a father myself, and would never physically discipline my son. But it is interesting that you assumed I was talking about a kid. A fair amount of these stories include adults, in what essentially is (or should be?) a kid's hobby. In that respect, the 'grow up' comment is pretty laughable.
As for the 'internet tough-guy stuff... whatever! If you prefer impotent rage... that's your business. I've never let anyone kick sand in my face, metaphorically or otherwise - that doesn't make me a wannabe tough-guy,
it just means I'm not a fanny.
No, I didn't read the rest of the post. Why waste time reading it when it started out like that? The rest that followed could not have improved it. But that's ok.
squilverine wrote:grizgrin wrote:Bet if that kids dad had been in attendance he wouldn't have slapped that kid.
Oh, and thanks for making the internet tough guy call, squilverine and carmachu.
Maybe I could have been clearer in my post, I was not suggesting that I would ever hurt a child, in fact the idea of it sickens me.
However if an adult deliberatly damaged my property then yes I would stand up for myself. I was perhaps exagerating when I suggested "giving someone a kicking" but then again what would your reaction be if you saw someone keying your car or smashing a window on your house? Deliberate damage to anothers property is criminal damage, just because it is directed towards lead soldiers does not detract from the seriousness of the action.
I firmly believe that if people are allowed to get away with this sort of thing unchallenged then we leave the door open for it to become veiwed as acceptable. When I was younger and seriously misbehaved then I got a smacked arse. Subsequently I learn't that it is not cool to bully people, steal things or damage property.
Um, when I made the comment about the kid getting slapped, I was refering to walmart incident. I was not trying to, in any part of that post, say that you were advocating hurting anyone. Little confused here, but honestly this thread has grown and devolved just about to my interest level. If I offended you or anyone else you will have to PM me to get it straight I think, as I prob. wont be wading back into this end of the pool. Ta. Automatically Appended Next Post: Albatross wrote:So... would it be OK to slap someone's cat?
Joke!! JOKE!!!
Slap his cat would be better than spanking his monkey.
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Post by: Buttlerthepug
ManwithIronHands wrote:Once saw a guy (at least 25) take a leak in a kids (12 or 13) army box after he lost to him.
The guy got banned from the store and got arrested for public indecency.
I think I read this like 7 times till I fully got it... Like I understood what was written but I couldnt comprehend it... The feth was he thinking... I had a nice laugh about it too though... as horrible as it it.
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Post by: Flachzange
grizgrin wrote:
Albatross wrote:So... would it be OK to slap someone's cat?
Joke!! JOKE!!!
Slap his cat would be better than spanking his monkey.
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
I saw a guy litterally eat an epic space marine tac suqad on a bet.
The squad wasn't his or the guy beting he couldent's. when the owner finnaly realised what actualy happened he was not amused.
Tho the guy won the bet he didnt keep his winnings, he had to use them to buy the owner a new squad of marines.
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Post by: ricekake87
saw a guy after a game, which he lost, try to set some kids army on fire, the same guy was totally loaded on booz, plus he was not even playing!!!
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
ricekake87 wrote:saw a guy after a game, which he lost, try to set some kids army on fire, the same guy was totally loaded on booz, plus he was not even playing!!!
.....What!?
How can he loose if he wasnt playing.
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Post by: Boss 'eadbreaka
I was in GW a few weeks back when, for no reason at all a mother comes in with a one year old in a pram, comments on what a lovely 'toyshop' this is and park the slobberin' baby next to the table I was playing at.
What does the bub go for?
My warboss. Grabs it, bites its head off and only spits it out when the git spikes its gum on the boss's helmet horns.
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Post by: Unevenscore
So thats how you kill a warboss. Heh, I've been the only one to kill any of my models. Nothing majorly broken but knocked arms and weapons off. The worst was about a month ago. I set two box lids with my 2 dreads, Veterans, Techmarine, all my AoBR orks and Land Raider Battle Wagon on top of my friends car, sudden gust of wind and crash. I don't think anything broke outright but I am still finding loose joints on things. TechMarine split his harness apart. Last time I do that.
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Post by: squilverine
This thread is now starting to make me very paranoid! I am currently putting together a warhound and am considering hireing an ex government assassin to keep watch over it
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
My warhound has never been touched except by me, I tell people the cost and tehy keep their hands off. Tho atm the carry case or lack there of I have for it (duffel bag cramed with stuff so it cant move) is currently its worst enemy those things shed toes like they dont need them.
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Post by: aka_mythos
Here is my thought... about kids terrorizing stores, if we can expect parent to blame society for their error in child rearing... society should get its chance to strike back. It teaches a child the important lesson that the world isn't as forgiving as their parents... nor should it be. Its an important lesson because when they become an adult no ones going to pull a punch and their idiocy will land them in the hospital that one time they piss off the wrong guy, or they'll end up being sued, or dead. So that controlled and restrained slap to the wrist is your responsibilty as a society attempting to influence and curtail bad behavior.
I'm not saying you punch the kid, I'm not saying you even spank him, but swatting his hand off your property or the similar thats just being responsible for what is yours. You wouldn't let someone vandalize your car, principly its the same. If a parent makes a stink just threaten to sue them for any damage, quantifing the infliction of strife the kid imposed on you to his parents. People don't always understand miniatures but they'll understand money. You obviously aren't going to follow through with it, but making a big enough deal out of it will scare off the parent.
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
I remember now I had a real problem with Assualt on Black Reach last Christmas. My young cousin walked into my room, where I was talking to another cousin, holding one of my sister's toys. She annoyed her older sister so it was snatched from her and she went to grab it back and of course, she stumbled back when her sister let go. She landed on my Assualt on Black Reach box and crushed half of it. Now nothing was truly damaged except half the box. So that is why I don't take my minis out coz dumb little kids break em and get gruby fingerprints all over your precious paintjob. Imagine adding the finishing touches to your best model when a little kid grabs it smudges it, then snaps it.
and if you are wondering why AoBR was on the floor i is because I have a low and normally very crowded desk. So it was on the floor where I could examine the frames and not knock over my WiP.
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Post by: MagickalMemories
I don't have any real problems with model molesters, as I play at the home of one of my gaming group. I've been inspired, however, by aka_mythos.
I think that, from now on, if a kid messes up one of our miniatures, we should scold him firmly and send him to "time-out." Make him stand with his nose in the corner for one minute per retail dollar value of the assaulted miniature.
"You broke my Warhound Titan! Get in that corner and don't come out for 6 hours! You're in Time-Out, Mister!"
Eric
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Post by: carmachu
Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:I was in GW a few weeks back when, for no reason at all a mother comes in with a one year old in a pram, comments on what a lovely 'toyshop' this is and park the slobberin' baby next to the table I was playing at.
What does the bub go for?
My warboss. Grabs it, bites its head off and only spits it out when the git spikes its gum on the boss's helmet horns.
I'm sorry, but I just have to ask: what was the mother's reaction and/or comment? Automatically Appended Next Post: aka_mythos wrote:Here is my thought... about kids terrorizing stores, if we can expect parent to blame society for their error in child rearing... society should get its chance to strike back. It teaches a child the important lesson that the world isn't as forgiving as their parents... nor should it be. Its an important lesson because when they become an adult no ones going to pull a punch and their idiocy will land them in the hospital that one time they piss off the wrong guy, or they'll end up being sued, or dead. So that controlled and restrained slap to the wrist is your responsibilty as a society attempting to influence and curtail bad behavior.
And then the parents controlled and restarined slap is to call the police and press charges. I highly advise against that.
I'm not saying you punch the kid, I'm not saying you even spank him, but swatting his hand off your property or the similar thats just being responsible for what is yours. You wouldn't let someone vandalize your car, principly its the same. If a parent makes a stink just threaten to sue them for any damage, quantifing the infliction of strife the kid imposed on you to his parents. People don't always understand miniatures but they'll understand money. You obviously aren't going to follow through with it, but making a big enough deal out of it will scare off them
Good luck with that. Threats to sue only work if you actually back them up. I always love the occassional "well my lawyer says" or I'll sue" angle.Its fun to turn them around on them with "well MY lawyer says" when faced with that angle. You sue for damages to the models....they sue for damages to their kids....counter suits can be used, have fun.
Again, no one should touch your models without your permission. However, you need to keep you hands to yourself.
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Post by: unistoo
I learned a few months ago just how resourceful toddlers can be...
I'd brought my newly painted fleet of metal 1/1200 napoleonic ships to my mate's house for a game - for those that don't know, the largest ships in that scale are only about 11cm long, bowsprit to stern, and these had been newly rigged with thread and ratline'd with mesh. I keep them in a box, magnetised to the bottom (a foam case would snag the yardarms too readily), and I put them up on his sidetable as I arrived (firmly out of reach, or so I thought).
After a while, his almost-two-year old son came out to show me something... one of my 72's that he was so happy to have 'found'
Turns out that he'd learned to use the shelves under the table as a ladder to reach whatever he liked on top... including the mysterious and exciting new box, which he'd pulled down and dropped to the hardwood floor.
Unbelievably, the only damage to any of the ships was a few bent masts, and a broken bowsprit - mainly because I'd decided to glue them using an epoxy resin rather than superglue as I was concerned about fragility! I have since converted to using it for all my metal models
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Post by: aka_mythos
carmachu wrote: And then the parents controlled and restarined slap is to call the police and press charges. I highly advise against that.
This is why it often pays A) to know the other people in the store well enough for them to say, "no it wasn't like she's making it out, Officer"; strength and solidarity in numbers and B) be involved with your local community, contributing often to law enforcement run charities; its not a free ride but they can usually judge who is the better citizen by their participation in the community. If you are a no body who has no friends to back them up and are a nobody who doesn't contribute to the community, you probably deserved being walked all over.
You could always just start yelling at the parent, after they've failed to restrain the kid after the first times you attempted telling them.
This is your property, if you don't take ownership enough to protect it, you don't deserve it.
carmachu wrote:
I'm not saying you punch the kid, I'm not saying you even spank him, but swatting his hand off your property or the similar thats just being responsible for what is yours. You wouldn't let someone vandalize your car, principly its the same. If a parent makes a stink just threaten to sue them for any damage, quantifing the infliction of strife the kid imposed on you to his parents. People don't always understand miniatures but they'll understand money. You obviously aren't going to follow through with it, but making a big enough deal out of it will scare off them
Good luck with that. Threats to sue only work if you actually back them up. I always love the occassional "well my lawyer says" or I'll sue" angle.Its fun to turn them around on them with "well MY lawyer says" when faced with that angle. You sue for damages to the models....they sue for damages to their kids....counter suits can be used, have fun.
Again, no one should touch your models without your permission. However, you need to keep you hands to yourself.
Are you telling me, I'm the only gamer who keeps a lawyer on retainer?
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Post by: Quintinus
After reading these stories, I am now officially scared to use any of my models in any gaming store. -shudders-
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Post by: HurricaneGirl
My most horrible experience was when I first started painting (pre-40k) figs in my teens. I was staying at my grandmother's and so was a very young cousin, who had wandered into my room and managed to find and open my fig box and snap off every part that I had glued on. I found her right as she was finishing up with the last couple.
As a former FLGS owner, I had a couple lawyers that played regularly in my store, so I had a retainer by default. I had a few "I'll sue you" moments too. One kid left his Magic deck in my store and called a few weeks later saying that he had a card worth several hundred dollars in it. *sigh*
Anyway, the curret FLGS I play at has a sign on the door banning unsupervised kids under 16. The game room is also a back room, so that's helpful as well.
I ALWAYS ask permission, but only if I really really want to see the tiny details, and never if I've been eating. I won't touch my own without a napkin or wipe handy.
I've had more accidents than I care to with my own models, so I try to be super careful with others. I even made my tournament tray with metal base so that my bugs don't wander too far.
I don't think I've seen the viciousness describe above, but all the stores/clubs i've frequented over the years have been fairly knit gaming groups. I do plan on keeping a better eye on my models though after reading some of this stuff...
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Post by: grizgrin
Eidolon wrote:I started playing when i was 12, and have bought almost all my models from money i made working paper routes and real jobs. This has given me respect for people, so i was never the kid who touched all your models. I did break someones russ, but they left the back half hanging off the table when i walked by. I also accidently dropped a guys marine commander, but the gun just fell off.
A story from a friend of mine about a tournament he went to goes like this.
This guy has this amazingly done adeptus mechanicus guard army. Everything is well converted, painted to beautiful standards etc. He leaves it sitting on his army board, one of those big wood boards you use to carry your army around at a tournament. But he left half the board hanging off the table edge. So some great big dude comes running buy with a sandwich, looking for his table since hes late coming back. And he bumps right into this guys army tray. You could see the thing fall in slow motion, models hitting the ground, tubes and lasguns and bits going everything. The guy who bumped the tray looks down, says "oh i see your playing drop troops" and just goes on his way.
You know, what IS the protocall when some butthole surfer (gibby forgive me) pulls some jackassery like this and then walks off like he just gave you a good tactical tip? There are some store owners and former store owners in here, I'd like to hear how it was handled in their stores if they've seen anything like this.
Because on the one hand no one with more IQ points than they can count on their fingers and toes is going to spaz out and start cutting the offender with their hobby knife. That's just asinine. But on the other hand, if the guy fethed my army up like that and then waltzed off back to Neverland; I'd yell. A lot. Strictly to establish to him that what he had done was bad. After that, maybe a call to the cops if he refused ot make resititution, I dunno.
What's worked, and hasn't,, for yall?
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Post by: ManwithIronHands
Receipts, I carry them in my army box, I show them to parents who leave unatended children at my LFGS and tell them I will ask for reparations on any irrepairably broken model. Generaly they tell their kid to behave and not to touch other peoples stuff but sometimes the kids take this as touch everything cuz mommy/daddy told me not to.
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Post by: carmachu
aka_mythos wrote:carmachu wrote: And then the parents controlled and restarined slap is to call the police and press charges. I highly advise against that.
This is why it often pays A) to know the other people in the store well enough for them to say, "no it wasn't like she's making it out, Officer"; strength and solidarity in numbers and B) be involved with your local community, contributing often to law enforcement run charities; its not a free ride but they can usually judge who is the better citizen by their participation in the community. If you are a no body who has no friends to back them up and are a nobody who doesn't contribute to the community, you probably deserved being walked all over.
This is your property, if you don't take ownership enough to protect it, you don't deserve it.
Actually it pays to know the laws and such of your area, if you going to start giving advice. Your assuming she's(the mother) is going to lie about it.
I'm suggesting that even if you have the facts correct, he touched the model, you told him no and slap his hand, YOU will still be in the wrong.
I'm not suggesting you dont stand up for yourself, or your property. I AM suggesting you are giving very bad advice to slap some kids hand.
Are you telling me, I'm the only gamer who keeps a lawyer on retainer?
Retainer? probably. But if you do, I suggest you actualy talk to him about suing and or slapping some kids hand before you do it and get his advice first......
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Post by: Bookwrack
Vladsimpaler wrote:After reading these stories, I am now officially scared to use any of my models in any gaming store. -shudders-
You're worried about the store? That's really rather silly. You should be much more worried about fire, tornado, or earthquake ruining your models at home.
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Post by: MagickalMemories
HurricaneGirl wrote:My most horrible experience was when I first started painting (pre-40k) figs in my teens. I was staying at my grandmother's and so was a very young cousin, who had wandered into my room and managed to find and open my fig box and snap off every part that I had glued on. I found her right as she was finishing up with the last couple.
Dude.
Seriously.
Cyan?
How about a color that isn't nearly invisible on the white background some of us use?
Eric
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Post by: Mastiff
I'm guessing "HurricaneGirl" is not a dude, but I could be wrong. I'm probably not really a dog...
But I second your motion on the cyan text. I also view this with the white background theme, it's pretty hard to read.
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Post by: Saldiven
Hrm...well, back in about 1989 or so (might have been 1988), I got involved with WHFB. The store owner and I played Dwarves, while everyone else played evil forces, so there was a big setup of all the bad guys against the Dwarves.
On our left flank was a huge combined group of goblins and orcs. After the Dwarve's first round of shooting (way too many crossbows; back then, every unit of warriors could be given crossbows), 2-3 orc units routed. The orc/goblin army was so tightly packed that routing units were forced to go through other units, causing them to make route tests. In short order, after some miserable rolls, about 75% of the orc/goblin army was fleeing. Similarly bad rally rolls started that army's next turn, resulting in about half of the army routing off of the board after turn one.
The owner of those armies promptly packed up all his models, went outside, threw them in the dumpster and walked away.
Luckily, the store owner went out and pulled the box out of the dumpster so when the player finally calmed down and came back, he still had his armies.
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Post by: MagickalMemories
Mastiff wrote:I'm guessing "HurricaneGirl" is not a dude, but I could be wrong. I'm probably not really a dog...
But I second your motion on the cyan text. I also view this with the white background theme, it's pretty hard to read.
"Dude" is far more universal now than in the 80's, when we called them "Dudette's." LOL
Also, the "Dude" was meant more as an exclamation (pardon the punctuation error lol).
Eric
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Post by: BigJon
Not in a store but my wife and her sister had a fight, I thought it was funny until a shoe came flying across the room past my wifes head and smack onto my brand new Bloodthister (it was a new release at the time) and I had JUST finished painting it and was setting it up for photos. The model hit the ground and everything that could break off did. The fight was not funny anymore and they both knew they took it to far when they had broken my "toys".
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Post by: Canonness Rory
I was watching 2 guys play, one with a nob bikers list, the other a mono-nurgle list. The nurgle figs were nothing special, but the nob bikers guy had the forgeworld warboss and 10 custom-made bikers, all beautifully painted and based wonderfully.
Some 17 year old kid walks over, hits on me for a couple minutes, then, when one of the nob bikers finally die, he asks to look at it. Nothing wrong so far.
He looks it over, and then breaks one of the arms off. On purpose. To see if he had used super-glue or plastic glue.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
@Sildevan: That guy was an idiot.
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Post by: ungulateman
Rory - That guy is possibly the most sadistic donkey-cave to ever not play Nob Bikers.
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Post by: Neconilis
MagickalMemories wrote:HurricaneGirl wrote:My most horrible experience was when I first started painting (pre-40k) figs in my teens. I was staying at my grandmother's and so was a very young cousin, who had wandered into my room and managed to find and open my fig box and snap off every part that I had glued on. I found her right as she was finishing up with the last couple.
Dude.
Seriously.
Cyan?
How about a color that isn't nearly invisible on the white background some of us use?
Eric
No one should be using the painful white background. It killed the children for laughing you know? How could you support the white background after something like that?
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Post by: MinMax
Canonness Rory wrote:I was watching 2 guys play, one with a nob bikers list, the other a mono-nurgle list. The nurgle figs were nothing special, but the nob bikers guy had the forgeworld warboss and 10 custom-made bikers, all beautifully painted and based wonderfully.
Some 17 year old kid walks over, hits on me for a couple minutes,
Boys will be boys.
Canonness Rory wrote: then, when one of the nob bikers finally die, he asks to look at it. Nothing wrong so far.
He looks it over, and then breaks one of the arms off. On purpose. To see if he had used super-glue or plastic glue.
Augh, no! That's horrible!
On purpose?!
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Post by: Sidstyler
...why not just ask what glue he used? Was he afraid he wouldn't get an honest answer or what?
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Post by: HurricaneGirl
Dude.
Seriously.
Cyan?
How about a color that isn't nearly invisible on the white background some of us use?
Eric
I honesty don't know how to respond to this. Pretty much anything I say is going to mark me as rude, bhy, sarcastic, or a drama queen.
...
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Post by: mal
it's very important to know what type of glue a complete stranger used to stick their minis together. This must be done by breaking them; as this is apparently more effective than getting the story from the mouth that built them.
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Post by: Kommandant56434
I am so glad that none of this has happened to me or my friends! Although I do get the occasional annoying kid who comes by mid-game and picks up some of my guardsmen without asking; usually I just glare at them and ask, "what the hell are you doing?" I guess Im one of the few guard players at my FLGS that fields a valkyrie because I get a lot of gawkers. I havent had anyone touch it without asking yet; Im glad for that too because I, in all my wisdom, carved out some plastic to make the stand fit the valk better and now it is a bit wobbly. I do find it funny that at the sound of clattering plastic or metal, everyone in the store stops what they're doing, cringes, and the lets out a pained "ooooh..."
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
*raises hand*
Same here.
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Post by: Sidstyler
HurricaneGirl wrote:Dude.
Seriously.
Cyan?
How about a color that isn't nearly invisible on the white background some of us use?
Eric
I honesty don't know how to respond to this. Pretty much anything I say is going to mark me as rude, bhy, sarcastic, or a drama queen.
...
How about "Stop using a god-damned white background!"?
Who cares if it's rude?
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
@HurricaneGirl: Pay them no heed! Your Cyan words have brought much cheer to the chidren of Dakka!
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:I was in GW a few weeks back when, for no reason at all a mother comes in with a one year old in a pram, comments on what a lovely 'toyshop' this is and park the slobberin' baby next to the table I was playing at.
What does the bub go for?
My warboss. Grabs it, bites its head off and only spits it out when the git spikes its gum on the boss's helmet horns.
.................................................................................Seriously, I doubt it. You would have told everyone at scholl if a baby did that. Unless the 'git' was you after missing your sandwich and grabbing the warboss.
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Post by: Albatross
Man, I totally despair of this 'if you so much as sneeze on me, I'm gonna sue!!!'-attitude. It's even making it's way across to this side of the atlantic! Perhaps this is why people think they can just do whatever they like to your property - because they know there's no comeback at all.
I'm not saying 'yeah just go around beating people up if they touch your stuff', far from it. But there was a time in this country when even the coppers would give you a sharp clip round the head for just mouthing off to them! OK, it's not ideal - but adults were'nt getting their heads stamped on and killed by gangs of kids roaming the estates. That's a fact. When I was a kid(omg how grandad?), I knew that if i destroyed or otherwise vandalised the property of an adult, then I'd get dragged by the scruff of my neck either to my mum's house or the Police Station. Thus, I had a healthy respect for grown-ups. I didn't grow up in the 50's - this is the 80's we're talking about!
My partner is a Primary-school teacher - if a kid falls and cuts his/her knee, she can't even put a plaster on it in case she's sued or accused of sexual assault, school policy!
Madness.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Please read this post properly before you decide to diss me, as no-one seemed to last time...
I DON'T BEAT CHILDREN AND STEAL THEIR LUNCH-MONEY.
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Post by: Orc Town Grot
I was teaching English in Korea and sometimes took some models to show students as curios....
Until I noticed the first thing every kid did was grab an arm or weapon and pull until it came off...
That's right Kim Sumin, they are breakable.
Then I noticed adults had the same tendency to test the break point of everything....
Must say something about the universal human soul....
OTG
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Post by: Ketara
I vote for the cyan. Makes people stop using the white background.
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Post by: Vermillion
Something like this has happened to me only once. I had stowed my dark angels in one of the old double sided GW cases and behind a panel on my corner computer desk. In front of this was a couple of boxes of miscellaneous junk from around the house. My little boy who was maybe just over 1 at the time got the case. How I'm baffled as the boxes in front of all access looked like they had never been touched, him and his brother (1 year older) had decided to open the case up (they are evil geniuses) and nosey around.
Only when the elder one came through and told me one had broken while waving a banner and marine at me did I even realise they had managed this. Yep sneaky. The army was then pretty much busted everywhere in their frantic effort to put them away while I was getting upstairs to see
Most didnt bother me, it was sorting the devastators out again one night where I thought they were lucky they were in bed or I'd have been tempted to glue their fingers together to keep them out of these things in the future
My eldest managed to pinch a lot of eldar off me as his own, complete with a case for it, his favourite was a falcon and being aged 2 it was a spaceship that went "ZOOOOOOM!!!". So when he dropped it and the scatter laser broke off he was really upset and worried (it had been repaired before) and I explained dont worry, look it can be fixed and showed him how I was gluing it etc, while tellign him glue's dangerous for little boys, only let daddy use it and if he sees daddy stupidly left it laying around tell me . He was really happy. So 5 minutes later when he dropped it again and it literaly exploded with the main parts even somehow coming apart, weapons flying off, he just picked the peices up (spending ages looking for the clear conopy and insisting only he can look for it) bringing them over and ordering me calmly "Daddy fix it." and wandering off to get a seat to watch. Still makes me laugh
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Awww, how cUte!
This is one of the few 'model molester horror stories' that has made me smile. =)
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Post by: Orkz_iz_best
Well earlier this year we had a kid by the age of 12 come into our FLGS. We got to know him after a couple vistis and he seemed a little annoying, but ok. One day he just walks in and grabs a couple boxes of dwarf warriors (that he did not pay for) and opens them up and start to take the models of the sprues and put them together. Right in the middle of the store! Our FLGS is really small so it wasn't we couldn't see his every move. We were all speechless, trying to figure out what gave him the idea to do this. Then my friend, FLGSO, and I, who were the only ones in the store walk over and ask him if he was planning on paying for those boxes, and he replies with the answer of "No my dad will pay for them". Well we look around the parking lot, and sure enough there is no dad to be found. So we call up his dad and ask if he was aware of what his son was doing, he throws a tantrum on the phone, because apparently he had plans for paying for anything. So my FLGSO tells the kid that his dad was not paying for anything and asked him to pay him for the dwarves, and the kid gave the most arrogant answer saying "You owe me for those tournament fees i've paid in the past and not won anything.", and at this my FLGSO gets not so friendly and I swear he was fixing to call the the full fury of the 4 chaos gods on that kid, it took both my friend and me to restrain the store owner from beating the crap out of that kid. He banned the kid from the store and we have never seen him since. Now we have a sign posted on the door saying no one under the age of 14 is allowed in the gamestore without parental supervision for the safety of their kids.
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Post by: Oldgrue
Albatross wrote:I DON'T BEAT CHILDREN AND STEAL THEIR LUNCH-MONEY.
And that is why you disappoint me so.
Strangely my wife is prone to breakage. When I first started dating her she had successfully (by dropping!) broken an early eldar swooping hawk (2 pieces - wings and body) at the waist without breaking off the wings. Her following feat was returning an early carnifex to its 8 component parts. Still, she plays Warmachine.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Oldgrue wrote:Albatross wrote:I DON'T BEAT CHILDREN AND STEAL THEIR LUNCH-MONEY.
And that is why you disappoint me so.
Strangely my wife is prone to breakage. When I first started dating her she had successfully (by dropping!) broken an early eldar swooping hawk (2 pieces - wings and body) at the waist without breaking off the wings. Her following feat was returning an early carnifex to its 8 component parts. Still, she plays Warmachine.
LOL you got swooping hawks?
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Post by: waaagh!orksrocks
Ketara wrote:I vote for the cyan. Makes people stop using the white background.
Hang on, you can change the backround?
anyway, on topic, the only thing I've seen was (and be aware I was the stopper in this) I had introduced a mate to the hobby and now that he had an army I was showing the nearby clup and a couple of weeks ago another mate had converted (litterally the only thing not hand made was a land raider body and marneus calgers fists.) marneus calgars land raider and this mate (being used to me not minding if something breaks as its just a little blob of plastic/super glue away) and picks it up by marneus's fist luckily I got there in time so nothing broke but that was the closest I have ever seen to someone doing something like this and after reading this I feel so privaliged.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Click on the "Switch Theme" to change the background colours.
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Post by: BrookM
My eyes..
I love this darkness screen thingy, works so well when I'm only just awake, doesn't force me to wear sunglasses to stare at a screen.
Back on topic: I have noticed that the Amsterdam store is leaving less on their gaming tables and more in their display cabinets. They are especially catty when you look at the store FW models these days.
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Post by: HellsGuardian316
Emperors Faithful wrote:@HurricaneGirl: Pay them no heed! Your Cyan words have brought much cheer to the chidren of Dakka!
I third this. They chose the white background and all the EVIL that comes with it
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Post by: MagickalMemories
Neconilis wrote:
No one should be using the painful white background. It killed the children for laughing you know? How could you support the white background after something like that?
I find it easier to see the breaks between posts, myself.
Plus, some kids deserve the killing. lol
HurricaneGirl wrote:
I honesty don't know how to respond to this. Pretty much anything I say is going to mark me as rude, bhy, sarcastic, or a drama queen.
...
Don't take it personally. It was just a friendly jab. I don't troll for fights like some.
Eric
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Post by: Wehrkind
" If you are a no body who has no friends to back them up and are a nobody who doesn't contribute to the community, you probably deserved being walked all over. "
That is kind of a scary sentance... that and your earlier post make me need to point out that society is usually roughly definied as "everyone other than you" when it comes to the law. Gamers, of all people, should recognize that not having friends or associating with other people is not a good basis for determining whether you deserve to be walked over.
On topic, I second being my own worst enemy when it comes to models, partially because we have a nice group. I used to run 3 penitent engines, only one of which I finished painting. Guess which one I knocked off the edge of the table.
It has gotten to the point that when my wife and I are watching tv and and I am cleaning models or some such, she responds to "oh, bloody f*cking hell" with "What's it look like?" while checking out the carpet. Knowing my own sins against models, I am thusly very careful to never touch other people's
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Post by: Oldgrue
LOL you got swooping hawks?
As hard to imagine as it is, there was a time when they were functional. Some of us are that old.
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