Congrats to yakface and new dakka and thanks to migsula

I dont usually make a Project log when im sculpting or painting my tyranids
or other projects but this time everything is quite different.

I have accepted, last year, my most challenging commission work so far,
a very old and hard to get Armourcast Eldar Phantom Titan,
one of the biggest fellas i have ever seen (about 36cm tall) and my job
is to cover him by sculpting details on it since he is
a bit lacking on that area.

One of the main problems is that he is so huge im going
to spend GS like crazy on this, also the resin is full of
big bubbles holes so the cleaning alone will take lots of time.
but im quite exited with this crazy project, it will be a slow project
due to its gigantic dimensions and hard one to pull off right
but i will have lots of fun doing it.

time for pics...
By the end of january of 2007 i received this







sketch for shoulder pads
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9378/ph...shoulderom9.jpg

torso and shoulder pads:
torso front


Torso right shoulder


Torso left shoulder


Torso Back


torso pics


and


Wip pics






concept for Back fins of titan.

Absolutely breathtakingly beautiful workNavarro!! Your style fits the oldskool titan and organic wraithbone so perfectly.

I have already forwarded this to most of my friends when I saw it for the first time. Be sure to get some pics of the painted one when the painter has worked it ready. Must be an intimidating prospect to face this badboy from the package!!!


ps. Welcome back

Good. God.

Love the heads, love the thorns, love the fact that anyone can actually make one of those old things look like a modern minature.

Indeed, Welcome Back and what a start...

This project is absolutely amazing. From concept to finished green stuff, you are spot on sir. I can't help but appreciate how you're adding to what is already there instead of trying to change things completely. I do feel like the large heart could use something extra. But this could also be accomplished with paint.

Your return is much welcomed...

It looks beautiful. Not quite to my taste, but absolutely beautiful. You sir, know how to sculpt.

Posted By migsula on 10/28/2007 1:53 PM
Absolutely breathtakingly beautiful workNavarro!! Your style fits the oldskool titan and organic wraithbone so perfectly.

I have already forwarded this to most of my friends when I saw it for the first time. Be sure to get some pics of the painted one when the painter has worked it ready. Must be an intimidating prospect to face this badboy from the package!!!


ps. Welcome back

Thanks mate.
Yes its a very imposing miniature, when i first saw it in real life i was amazed by its huge size, pictures just dont do justice to its scale... now i imagine painter face when he sees the scale and the ton of details i sculpted. :-)

 

@grey death my first take on it was: its a miniature with a cool design, and just needs some spicing up on detail and position. So i just followed its design lines and made them a bit more eyecatchy. My objective was to enhance the titan by fixing its flaws but also keeping its original shape. I think the final result will be a  old miniature with a modern look but retaining some of the cool oldschool feeling to it. So i try not to fill every bit of surface with GS making a balance of my detail work and original armorcast design.

The heart will have to change, client wants a bieltan rune inside of it.

Thanks guys

 

 

Navarro,
That is simply sublime work, soup to nuts. Nothing else to say except Bravo!!!

Are you painting it as well?

Thanks for sharing,
Chuck

HAHAHAHA! Look who's back with some really tight stuff! You know I like criticizing your work but this time it is not possible. I just have to shut up and enjoy.

my god man.. please go work for GW!

This is absolutely stunning, and may possibly the best outlet of the "tentacle" style of sculpting you seem to prefer. By the time this whole thing is finished and painted it will almost assuredly be mind-blowing.

I look forward to following it.

Amazing stuff.

The true test is if you can make that ugly assed wonky head actually work on that lovely converted model. Hands down the worst part of the model and the one spot that I think will require the most work.

Posted By dienekes96 on 10/29/2007 4:51 PM
Navarro,
That is simply sublime work, soup to nuts. Nothing else to say except Bravo!!!

Are you painting it as well?

Thanks for sharing,
Chuck

The painting will be done by a experienced painter that client ussually works with.

@Symbio Joe Hi there bug brother seen your bigger marines and they look very nice, its always a pleasure to read your critcs mate.

@ Necros long time no see alienids master, GW doesnt needs me they have lots of talent there (specially looking at new models released this year) speaking o GW stuff im starting a new army as soon as i finish this titan...

@yakface again congrats on new dakka work, wish you the best of luck. Yes i do like tentacles and they fit so well with idea of nouveau art/ eldar im trying to sculpt, even if it makes me spend so much GS... lets hope final result is a positive one. I have to be carefull not to fall in the exageration of filling every bit of resin with GS.

@Hellfury I agree with you, the head is always the first thing we look on a model and this one will have to be eyecatchy, even if i kind of like the original resin head i will have to sculpt something special. For me the most challenging part will be the legs since im going to reposition them. This is by far my hardest endurence test work, almost one year on it and still a long way to go.

When i have a bit more time I will check out this new projec/tblogs section of the dakka forums ( great idea and very apreciated) anxious to assimilate all specially the huge migsula thread. ;-)

 

 

 

Posted By NAVARRO on 10/31/2007 2:17 AM


@ Necros long time no see alienids master, GW doesnt needs me they have lots of talent there (specially looking at new models released this year) speaking o GW stuff im starting a new army as soon as i finish this titan...

Don't worry there's some new bugs that will be hatched in a few months, once I get a couple more of my guard models out of the way. Going to invest in a Tyrgon and after that I just need a few more things here and there to get a bunch of the new Apocalypse formations going

What's your next army gonna be?

Good choice i have one trygon (still in box) and its one of the FW finnest moments mate, beautifull model. I  just cant wait to see more spawned alienids.

On Buglands site i opened a new page for my next army, Terminator heavy Death Guard. Its like the spacehulk duel nids Vs termis but on a 40k battlefield.

I uhm, don't suppose there is some trick that makes creating all those georgous vines/tentacles possible for the sculpting impaired? Like simply sacrificing a new born babe, or dipping the GS in the blood of the innocent or something...

I am simply in awe, looking upon mine own hands as one looks upon a crooked and disfigured hooks of meat, unsuited for any craft.

Posted By Wehrkind on 10/31/2007 9:22 AM
I am simply in awe, looking upon mine own hands as one looks upon a crooked and disfigured hooks of meat, unsuited for any craft.

>  & nice 'splody head avatar you have there.

On the titan - gorgeous work Navarro, I remember hearing about this long ago and am loving everything you have done so far.  The entire idea is wonderful, spicing up all that empty armorcast space ...

Best of luck, keep us posted.  I'm off to Buglands to see how the termies are shaping up (my guess?  pure awesome)

- Salvage

I like this and even prefer it to all you Tyranid stuff.

Don't get me wrong, all those pieces are beyond excellence. But the thing I always disliked about tyranid modeling was that everything is supposed to be organic and look natural, which makes modeling a harder task because you are trying to obtain a look that the creature has everything naturally.

I much prefer this because it fits into the Eldar para dime perfectly. Even though their tanks and such are grown rather than constructed, there is a certain artistry about everything that they do. So, in my mind, that makes the modeling that much more impressive that the impressive GS work. I really conveys a character and an artistry to that army, and you can almost imagine that they took their time and their affinity to perfect in creating this titan.

Good stuff.

Posted By Boss_Salvage on 11/01/2007 6:24 AM

Posted By Wehrkind on 10/31/2007 9:22 AM
I am simply in awe, looking upon mine own hands as one looks upon a crooked and disfigured hooks of meat, unsuited for any craft.

>  & nice 'splody head avatar you have there.

On the titan - gorgeous work Navarro, I remember hearing about this long ago and am loving everything you have done so far.  The entire idea is wonderful, spicing up all that empty armorcast space ...

Best of luck, keep us posted.  I'm off to Buglands to see how the termies are shaping up (my guess?  pure awesome)

- Salvage

No termies yet I'm afraid, just one lonely CSM convo i did long ago. The Titan is taking all my attention now, so only after I finish it I will sculpt my own projects.

@Mahu I think I understand what you are saying, the fact Tyranids are all organic makes them predictable and a bit boring in your opinion... while Eldar contrasts between machine and ornamented organic features makes the concept a lot more fresh and interesting.

Personally, nothing beats the pleasure I'm having sculpting Tyranids, its like my litte monster freakshow and i can go really wild with my GS... Mind that I'm also loving to shape my idea of nouveau art/ Eldar armour mix for the titan, but someting is missing, i think with eldar i have to be less wild and have a bit more controll.

As a side note sculpting at this so diferent scale is making me realise that I do need a titan sized creature for my Nids... and since I dislike FW hierophant design i have a big free spot for it in Buglands.

If you guys get me started on talking about nids I will never stop. ^_^

I love what you are doing to this guy! It is absolutely brilliant. The idea of sculpting the vines instead of painting them is great. The only problem I have, and this is really nit-picky is the two bulbs in the rear that have what it looks as two pieces of rectangular tube pressed ito them. Something about those just bugs me and I do not have the verbage to explain why. Maybe if they integrated more with the design, or just did not look so obviously like pressed rectanular tube. I don't know. Either way yoru work is mind-blowing!

I just showed the pics to my wife and daughter.
I will quote what they said:

"OMFG! That is Beautiful!"
"Who IS this guy? I want to meet him!"
"Its an absolute work of art!"

I am in awe myself at the art and handiwork. I am very impressed.

Out of curiosity, what might I expect to pay for your services if I were to become a client of yours for a project similar in nature to this one?

Phoenix wrote:Out of curiosity, what might I expect to pay for your services if I were to become a client of yours for a project similar in nature to this one?

heh, you might be best to go PM with this one ^_-

MachineSlave wrote:I love what you are doing to this guy! It is absolutely brilliant. The idea of sculpting the vines instead of painting them is great. The only problem I have, and this is really nit-picky is the two bulbs in the rear that have what it looks as two pieces of rectangular tube pressed ito them. Something about those just bugs me and I do not have the verbage to explain why. Maybe if they integrated more with the design, or just did not look so obviously like pressed rectanular tube. I don't know. Either way yoru work is mind-blowing!

Bulbs are like armour small stabelizers, I see what you are saying and this is part of the problem of this project... you spend tons of time and when you end up one part you look back to the other parts hou have done and think... man i can do better than that! hehe I think best thing is let it as is since client happy and i do need to finish off the rest.

Laserbait wrote:I just showed the pics to my wife and daughter.
I will quote what they said:

"OMFG! That is Beautiful!"
"Who IS this guy? I want to meet him!"
"Its an absolute work of art!"

I am in awe myself at the art and handiwork. I am very impressed.

My wife just says: Your nuts!
thanks mate

Phoenix wrote:Out of curiosity, what might I expect to pay for your services if I were to become a client of yours for a project similar in nature to this one?

Like grey_death said, better talk about it by PM's, but i must confess I will work on my personal stuff for a wile after I finish the titan... its been exausting...


Now on a totally diferent note I have been collecting Infinity miniatures but since I still didnt get the time to work on them I merged the best of two worlds, like my day work as a ilustrator and my minis hobby...
So when i was making a concept for a spaceship I had in my mind the image of a freaky infinity spaceship... so I come up with this:



Its not directly related to titan but its something that im currently working on, concept wise... I would love to sculpt something like that for infinity....

that is absolutly amazing work, the best I can do with greenstuff is...well, things on pleague marines.

I'm looking forward to your new army.

Is this a Beil-Tan titan, judging from all the thorns?

Not that it truely matters but if so try and get hold of a copy of of the old 1st edition Epic add on Codex Titanicus. In that are the colour schemes and icongraphy for "Hearts Armoured for Battle", the titan legion of the Biel-Tan craftworld. IIRC the only specific icon to add is a heart with thorns wrapped around it in a figure if eight. I think the main colour is bone white, with Dark green trim (similar to how the titan currently is!) - but my memory of this is distant.

I think I have that heart with a vine shaped "8" on a eldar transfer... :S

Now that you mention it i think i need to add something like that on the titan, thanks for the tip.

I'm still making spikes for the vines here... so I'm almost on the verge of getting nuts with this...

My goodness, that is absolutely amazing!
I'm green with envy (No pun intended)

Nice Work!
The only thing i dislike (if you can call it that),are the heads on the left shoulder armor. They somewhat break the harmony on the model, but thinking about it, it could also look a bit boring without them. What are those guys supposed to be? Exarchs? Phoenix Lords?
Anyways, my personal favorite are the small writings on the back. Stunning.
And as a total moron with Greenstuff I'm very envious of you skills.
(I stopped working on my Flyrant because I couldn't make the Wings add up with turso. I have the imagines in my head, but the hands don't follow!)

Greets
Schepp himself

The heads are a tribute to former titan pilot heroes and champions of the past, so by extraordinary deeds they get carved on the titants shoulder... also on that shoulder theres a big "ball" on top, thats a also a tribute to their home planet freaky stuff i know

My brain shutdown at least 3 times looking at that. WOW.....

I love the changes you have made to that model. Lookin' good. Are you going todo anything ith the legs?

Little update after a pause.

At first i wasnt going to do nothing on titan hips but I decided otherwise.
heres some pics.





Wip pics of the parts i worked on so far, mind i just filled back fins with spikes about 50% so still needs more work.



and some concepts of what im planing for

the head


leg


Feet


And arm i forgot to post


Cheers

Well you got to admit that you got pretty far to call it a "little" update, but I know you so looking forward to paint this one .

Fantastic stuff! I've been following this thread for ages, just can't wait to see more.

beautiful as always.. keep going, I wanna see it done!

Beautiful work! Nothing else needs to be said.

I somehow, sadly, forgot all about this project of yours.

How?

No idea.

But I am glad it is back!

Awesome, awesome stuff...

Wow. That is among the most impressive works of miniature modelling I have ever seen. I can hardly wait to see it painted.
Awesome.

simply stunning

that is how eldar titans should look, well done!

yeah...
It's a commission? how are you going to let it go?

PAniC.

Schnikes, NAVARRO! That greenstuff work is great! I can't wait to see this thing assembled and painted up.

Panic wrote:yeah...
It's a commission? how are you going to let it go?

PAniC.

yep, besides I need more space on my display, this titan is way to huge
Also getting one airspray and compressor will for sure help me out letting it go.

And another small update.

This time I changed one of the titans shoulder pads because client didnt like much the big heart on the middle of it, so I added a big eldar rune on the middle of it, like client sugested...I think it looks better, lets hope I'm not the only one hehe.



Little by little I'm conquering this titan...

I'm looking at the legs and left one will be repositioned to a more dinamic pose... its going to be hard to pull this off, wish me luck.

Somehow never saw this one before. Stunning. Thanks so much for sharing.

Saw this thread when it first started.

Great work-Totally amazing.

I can't wait to see it finished.

Rock and Roll.

Beyond words. The ultimate GSing challenge!

One day Ill master the art and do something like this. You are an inspiration to us mere humans. Keep us posted!

.....wow ... simply amazing .....but how much, does that much green stuff cost?

Not so convinced by the big heart but if client wishes client gets.

Simply stunning!

That Armorcast titan will rival anything Forge World is putting out.

Keep up the good work....

Updated titan project

Shoulder pad with heart will not be trashed but I will have to add more vines to the heart...

Also managed to finish the head convo, its simple stuff and I hope it will stand out a lot from the packed with details back fins. My goal is to achieve a good balance between detailed heavy parts and clean parts.

looks ace, your GS work is 2nd to none :O
quick Q. any idea where i can get an armorcast titan from these days?
dont see anything on ebay except warhounds, and to be honest, i dont like the armorcast ones too much.

Why hasn't GW broken down your door yet trying to hire you? Your stuff is amazing.

This is spectacular work. I'm in awe of your skill.

On a side note you could have just made a simple armature out of wood and sculpted the whole titan with the amount of work you've done.

YOU ARE GOD

Your work are inspireing!
I'll have to try makeing some vines on the revenant I'm currently scratchbuilding.

Azmo

That work is remarkable. I wish I could do what you can do with GS with paint. Then I would at least have half the battle down. This is just simply amazing.

Dude your GS skills a crazy, you're really space-elfing him up, I like it!

FINISH THE JOB!!! FINISH IT!

WOW, just WOW nothing else you can say

MOAR?!

oh my g@d. how much will this cost, to convert mine.

holy mother of god that is simply the most amazing work ive ever seen. in all honesty thats the first time i thought of a model as beautiful. very nicely done

Come on, come on. The screaming masses demand updates!

thats just stupid sexy and I'm pretty sure I now hate you for it

Amazing work, well done

prety cool stuff

This thing is great looking but we need more updates.

stunning,,,,just simply stunning .Thanks for sharing,

Holy balls it is amazing. I cant wait to see when it is all painted.

Sheer brilliance... I like they way you've respected the old design and brought it up to par with current models. Wouldn't want to be the painter of that monster... Getting a nice and even white coat on this monster makes me wet my pants. Not to mention the detailing of course.

HE SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE GW GODS TO BE DIZ AWEZOME! HAIL THE GS KING!

A bit necro, this one... but awesome work if I never commented earlier.

The threadromancy! It burns the eyes!

If ever a thread deserved it, no DEMANDED it, it is this thread!

Maybe if we all gather around and start chanting, we'll be able to summon Navarro and coerce an update from him?

Please?

Navarro!Navarro!Navarro!Navarro!Navarro!Navarro!Navarro!...What he said to chant

NAVARRO

NAVARRO

eehh. This is tiring.

You guys carry on <_<

~sA

This is really amazing.

Hey!

Navarro's been around latetly...

What gives?!?

All kidding aside, please, some updates!

I WANT TO SEE IT!!! *cry* Its beautiful...

Well to be perfectly honest...







i must truely sayi hate you !
That is just breath taking work there, its a level of beauty, i could never have dreamed to see that amount of detail on a a model (might be a bit too far but meh i likes it)
can't wait to see it painted up !

all the best
Wolf (a new found fan )

Hi all, the titan is one step closer to the end ( sorry for huge pause on updates).

These are my leg sugestion for this project, repositioned one, decorated both, starting messing with base and hoping client likes the legs.

Theres a little csm on the base for scale.

Here you go folks, and thanks for support even if i take time between posts.



legs front view


Legs back view


Legs left view


Legs right view


Feet

Its so pretty...And that Chaos marine should be screaming in fear.

Holy Mother of God!

Absolutely awesome. Is there any chance you'll be also showign the blog on painting this thing?

I can't even get green stuff done correctly by filling gaps. Then, I see this.

Sir, my hat's off to you. Fantastic work. The level of seamless detail is beautiful and fits well within the Eldar imagery.

Great work. I look forward to seeing more.

An amazing piece of work, the curling greenstuff vines are immaculate.

I am glad to see this thread back again and love the movement you've brought to the fairly static original model.

Wow! Great titan! Can't wait to see him painted.

Well worth the wait!

Fantastic stuff...

Client is going to ship the titan to a talented painter, thats the plan... so I will not paint this fella.

I'm still not done with this, I need to scratch built base and touch up some back fins a little... but I'm almost at the end!
Cant wait to finish this project.

When the work is of this quality, we really do not mind the gaps in the blog! I realise that you are not painting it, but is there any way you can organise, at the very least, a photo of it once it is painted? Please please please?

Wow- brilliant detail work, as usual for you Navarro.

I also really like the great motion in the lower-body pose. It's probably difficult with the limitations of the model, but it would be nice to see the upper body exhibit the same degree of motion (very flexible and accute for a titan-sized war machine).

Nice work.

<----(Raises hand) Officially Jealous!

Dude, your GS skills are a thing of inspiration.

InyokaMadoda wrote:When the work is of this quality, we really do not mind the gaps in the blog! I realise that you are not painting it, but is there any way you can organise, at the very least, a photo of it once it is painted? Please please please?

I will try to get some pics.

Amazing.

Never has a thread risen from the grave like this one.

Glad to see the sculpt finished

This thread is over a year and a half old, I know this is a great model but when will it be painted?

Nice work by the way Navarro

I would be very grateful for pics. Surely the owner wil want to show it off?!

yeah,
It lives!!!! ( the thread I mean!)

Awesome stuff glad to see you back on target!
now back to work!

Panic...

Technically necro however the work is such good quality and such an inspiration it can be forgiven.

Sarigar wrote:I can't even get green stuff done correctly by filling gaps. Then, I see this.

QFT

I'm sickened by the sheer quality of sculpting work. A true inspiration to all.

Any time table when this will see paint?

f74 wrote:Never has a thread risen from the grave like this one.

Glad to see the sculpt finished

This thread is over a year and a half old, I know this is a great model but when will it be painted?

Nice work by the way Navarro

-Sorry for the long gap in time.

-The sculpt is not yet finished.

-No idea when it will be painted.

Thanks

As for the threadomancy... what do you guys sugest?

- let this Blog die and each update I do a new topic?
- Just dont update at all?
- continue updating this Blog when I have more news?

I dont know, but continuing this Blog made sense to me, all past images an ramblings are here but I dont want to annoy anyone.

Have no fear, thread necromancy does not exist in the blog forum. The whole point is to return to the thread when something new is finished!

amazing i didnt know the eldar titan was so big

Seems like a big fellow! I have an old reaver lying around from Armorcast, and I´m very jealous of this titans owner!

1) Very nice job

2)How rare are those?

I wish I had a video of how you do that GS work so well. Looks incredible without paint, I don't know if I can handle it with paint.

Thanks for the clarification yakface... makes a lot more sense to me that way also.

These titans are rare but they sometimes appear on ebay.

I'm a bit worried now, I havent talked with client in some time and he still has not replied to my last mails.

No worry there. You just get to keep the titan......
Obviously, I hope the guy is ok though.

this is a commission? You've been sitting on it for a year and a half? I'm surprised the client wasn't hounding you.

The first thing agreed upon before taking commission I do not accept a time shedule for this kind of massive project.

Believe me You see the pretty pics and have no idea of the work in this, and the hours, days, months sculpting it.

NAVARRO wrote:The first thing agreed upon before taking commission I do not accept a time shedule for this kind of massive project.

Believe me You see the pretty pics and have no idea of the work in this, and the hours, days, months sculpting it.

I don't doubt that, and didn't mean to imply that if I did. I thought you hadn't done any work on it in almost 2 years.

I understand the work that went into it.

So if this is a commision, is the client pleased with the work with respect to the time involved in it? (They must be paying a lot for this.)

Someone help me find my lower jaw cause it just fell off at the insane beauty of the titan. Excellant job

Like said before I didnt realize how massive it was. Wow!

Well if the guy never turns up to pay for it sell the bugger on eBay, I'm certain a few Dakkaites (myself included) would pay top-dollar for a beauty like that.

I'm in the market for an Armorcast, if anyone's selling...

:-)

wow! I've been following this from the start and have only one thing to add.......


Fancy doing up my Armorcast reaver?

Client got back to me and theres still some stuff to be perfected but I'm almost there at the end!

And nopes! I will not do another titan anytime soon!

You'll post pictures of the finished product right???

I like that idea

pretty incredible work.
I've got one in a box waiting to get done, was thinking about building parts of it to get a Macross kind of "city built around an ancient robot" thingy. Doing the shoulders and head up as if they were overgrown with vines and plants, and have it removeable so I can turn it from terrain to titan.
Now I'm worried that it'll end up looking derivative and sloppy compared to what you've done here

epic work cant wait for updates

wow

god dang there is always a freak and this is a picture perfect case , that manual molding would have taken AGES!

Yes... yes!

Where are our updates?!?

Surely this beast has been completed, painted and has hit the tables by now, right?

Where is NAVARRO anyway???

Holy crap I need to see pictures of this with paint.

looks amazing, waiting for painted pics

Next update due for next week with pics of the finished thing... THIS EPIC EFFORT IS FINALLY OVER!!!!

Looking forward to it!

Can't wait, one of the most beautiful titans ever done.

This is so great that it burns. I'm eagerly anticipating the finished product. I can only imagine that the updates take so long because of all of the (obvious) loving care taken with the model.

I had to redo one shoulder pad and make a huge base for it... already done that and I'm just cleaning some parts here and there.

And then you're taking a squillion photos for your clamouring fans. And then you're posting it to the chap who's painting it. And then they are painting it to obscenely wonderful standards. And then they are taking a bazillion photos of it finished. And then you both automatically win the Slayer Sword simultaneously in all Games Days around the world, even the one's you don't enter for. And then we all crown you as Gods.

Right? Do I have a second for my motion?

Let's have some of those youtube 360 degree pan-arounds as well, like gamezoneminiatures and forgeworld do.

jabbakahut wrote:Can't wait, The most beautiful titan ever done.

Fixed it for you...

Quick sensible question for you:
From looking at the work you've done, it looks like you've put GS on a surface, flattened it out and then added additional details to that. How do you get the initial 'plate' of GS so smooth and so perfectly following the contours of the model?

Ta.

Lots of time and work I imagine!

The beneath layer of GS was a major pain in the butt to get it right and smooth but I had no choice really because if I didnt make it the intricate details above the flat resin would fall under pressure of normal things like holding the heavy titan.

To make this I spended lots and lots of GS heres a small step by step:

- Huge ball of GS
- get a plastic bag and dipp it in water
- use someting like roll to streetch the ball into a panckake
- now tricky part remove panckake from plastic without damaging it
- remove water from the pcake side you want to stick on titan
- put it on the titan and with a xacto(dipped in water) shape it to the right size and form
- use water and plastic bags and clay shappers and wet fingers in continuous horizontal or vertical movements to make GS shine ( about 100 movements should be a good starting point)
- apply details fast because you dont want it to cure
- let it all cure

so its a balance between time of curing and getting the surface clean.

Thanks for that Navarro. It makes sense. Although, if the 'base layer' cures, surely it's not that much of a problem because the GS on top would still stick to it? I realise I'm probably wrong, but I just can't quite work out why!

It would but you have a much stronger bound with 2 fresh GS surfaces, and on this titan that weights a lot the stronger the better.

OK. Makes sense. I guess if you were doing the same style of thing with a marine shoulder pad, for example, it would be fine.

Thanks for the help.

It's the time to close this blog.
I finished the Eldar Phantom Titan... Took me about 2 years and drained me completly.
This project was so far the biggest challenge to my endurance, almost drived me nuts but its over now and I just hope client likes it.

Tried some diferent concepts, I had in my mind, and kind of worked out the way I planned to. Not overthetop but high detailed, hard balance to get it right in these scales but I think its a positive result.
After all this time I think I'm now a more experienced sculptor and probably would change some parts, yet its time to close this door.

Thank you all that keept giving me energies and motivation to carry on II really apreciated it.
To all I leave the final pics.

do you plan on painting this?
I wouldnt even know where to start..... it is too awesome

Abso-frakkin-lutely gorgous!!
I dont think I need to say more since Ive commented on this thread several times and each time I was blown away by the amount of work and obviously the details you put onto this beast. And it was well worth the effort and time. Amazing work

He has already said that it is being painted by someone else. We can all only hope that we end up with photos of it painted on here....

Navarro, thank you so much for posting all of your hard, excellent work on here. It has been an inspiration to many! Only one question remains.....

What's your next project?

You, sir, are a green-stuff God among men.

Nay, among boys!

Hats off to you!

(And when that masterpiece gets painted, if you can remember, please let us see the final pics of that too!)

Stunning work!
since i cant say anything else then AWESOME!!!! i'll just ask:
where did you get those trees that's on the base?

Fallen Angel, I think they're the warhammer scenery ones that GW makes....

2 years well spent i cannot see him (client) thinking anything other then money well spent ... you are a masters of the green

InyokaMadoda wrote:Fallen Angel, I think they're the warhammer scenery ones that GW makes....

oh crap more expensive junk

Magnificent.

Detail level is insanely good. I can see why you say its drained you.

If the client doesn't like it I'll walk to wherever he lives and kick his ass myself. That is just about the most awesome miniature I have ever seen. I just want to know how much it cost the guy... Maybe when I'm obscenely rich you can make me one .

You win a pack of Morleys.

Incredible, please try to get some photos once the thing is painted up.

I am curious, you seem to have gone very minimal on the lances, what was the design decision there?

While every detail of this thing is amazing, and the more iconic bitz like the row of mask-portraits are truly inspired, it's the grace of your basic tendril-shapes that amazes me. The root-like shapes around the base of the back fins are somehow the best part of the whole thing, even though they're one of the simplest.

Brilliant work. Hope your energy springs back quickly now that it's done.

Pardon my only recently joining dakka, but I just wanted to say that this is the kind of amazing work that drew me into 40k. I've yet to even get one miniature (funds are low), but, Navarro, your work is such an inspiration. Brilliant sculpting. Cheers.

this is pure awesomeness!

The client just aproved everything, he liked the new yinyang shoulderpad and the base also, so I have green card to ship it back o him
I hope they paint it well also, If it is the painter client showed me long ago Im sure it will look great!

The trees on the base are the citadel ones, this titan is 2ft/ 61cm tall, its huge and pics dont really show the details and sheer size of this thing.

@jabbakahut The design choice was simple in theory but hard to pull it on the mini, I tried to compensate the superdetailed torso and shoulders etc with some clean parts like upper legs, weapons and top of the head... If i decided to make everything superdetailed the titan would look a big mess of Greenstuff with no focal point.
THe weapons are huge already as they are, and I want the focus to be on titan head.

I'm very happy people apreciated this blog and the titan, It was both fun and frustrating sometimes but I would not managed to pull this off if it werent for all the net people motivation. Thanks!


Next projects.... "The worm lords", " Tyranids Biodiversity" & " The real secret of monkey island"... THere's already a blog on The worm lords going on here at dakka.

What you said about the weapons makes sense, I wasn't criticizing, just curious. It works well.

What material is that base made from?

No problem mate, besides if you wanted to you could criticize all you wanted I have no problems with critiques.

Frame is wood, white parts is plaster and trees are citadel ones...

THis fella is almost 10kilos of mini!

just jaw droppingly cool.

Tell the guy to send you pics when it's painted, and post them here

Wow...

So, it takes two years to distill ~10 kilos of elemental awesome into a sculpted model. That's not a bad return!

That thing is really just staggering. How would one top that on the table? About the only thing that comes to mind would be somehow granting life to a squad of the old Diaz daemonettes. Possibly a mega daemon made from real dried body parts, like those "muscles in action" type exibits made from dead people.

So this will only be topped by granting life to inanimate metal, or bringing cadavers to a game. I think your title is secure for all time

Nice work all around it relly is a improvment on detail. Can't wait to see the finshed and painted.

Incredible, I cant wait to see it painted.

I'm also very anxious to see the titan in fullcolor.

Finally managed to built a page on buglands site just for the titan, this way its more confortable for all to check this project since you dont need to browse this topic fragmented information.

http://buglands.moonfruit.com/#/phantom-titan/4536174714


Cheers

Navarro - thanks for that link!

It is now bookmarked, in anticipation of (hopefully) one day seeing your masterpiece painted!

Until I joined dakka and started browsing the forums, I didn't know work like this was even possible. Just trying to get my jaw off the floor now.

Unreal work. I can't wait to see the finished pics.

whoa whoa whoa GW licensed other companies to amke them stuff??????????

Read the wikipedia, it explains all....

http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Resin_Vehicles_&_Titans#Epicast

ghosty wrote:whoa whoa whoa GW licensed other companies to amke them stuff??????????

You've not heard of Forgeworld?

oh......well technically forgeworld is a branch of GW....i think.