Hmmm. We will wait and see, eh Sir????

ARE YOU READY?????

Not enough skulls in that picture.

nice couch.

any money. Tyranids vs Spase Marinez!!!11!!!!

It can't be anything Warhammer related... He doesn't have a hand raised up in the air or anything. Thought he might be screaming, I can't tell.

Its entirely DoW 2. Though yes, the silhouette isn't raising his hand or screaming, it is in fact a picture of a crimson fists captain with powerfist. I remember that one from a WD issue a few years ago which had an article showing how a guy converted one with that pic as the inspiration.

wouldnt that be for soul storm???

Isn't that already out and reviewed though? It isn't like they'd put something out NOW in next months mag after the fact, is it?

It's not an expansion, it's an entirely new game engine.

One that can handle Nids'.....

and its about time too!!!!!

YAY! But the beta test sticker is misleading. At first I thought: yeah, where do I sign and then I realized that is was for a football manager...wtf?

Greets
Schepp himself

Haha, if this WERE for Soulstorm then PC Gamer has really gone down hill, with their 'secret exclusive' on a game that, by then, will have been out for a month...

They are a little behind sometimes on the rumor train but, c'mon guys, they aren't Redshirts...

With Company of Heroes being as tasty as it is, I'm REALLY looking forward to this. I think it'll be even better than Starcraft II.

I played Starcraft II at Blizzcon... bleh. It's just Starcraft with pretty graphics, very little new. Dawn of War 2 though... ohh... /drool.

Iorek wrote:With Company of Heroes being as tasty as it is, I'm REALLY looking forward to this. I think it'll be even better than Starcraft II.

Yep, I'm only buying this if it's at least as good as COH. I love seeing my dudes duck-and-cover, and with all the different types of cover 40k has, it would make me swoon.

Also because I wonder what type of animation they'll give to space marines hitting dirt.

I hope they use the Company of Heroes engine.
My God that sucker is awesome.

I don't see why they wouldn't have built their own new engine...the CoH engine is what, almost 2 years old now?

Don't get me wrong, the CoH engine is damn good. I just wouldn't be surprised if they brought something 'bigger and better' to the table

It better be "bigger and better". I love the CoH engine, but they've had time to embiggen it.

well, if they really do a new Marines vs. Nids DoW, it might have a difficult stand with SC2 not that far away...

It may be the new 40K MMO....as in a new dawn of war...play on words...

I think you're all overlooking the really awesome piece of news in this picture: Exclusive access to the Football Manager beta.

Call me behind on the times but...

Will DoW, WA, DC and SS be compatable with DoW2?

akira5665 wrote:ARE YOU READY?????

Yes, I'm ready for some football!!


Also, Dawn of War 2 should be pretty cool.

stonefox wrote:Yep, I'm only buying this if it's at least as good as COH. I love seeing my dudes duck-and-cover, and with all the different types of cover 40k has, it would make me swoon.

Also because I wonder what type of animation they'll give to space marines hitting dirt.

Ahem. Space Marines don't use cover. Remember!?!

Are you telling me that I won't get to see the best manly-men duck and huddle real close to their brethren? Looks like DOW2 just lost a customer.

Anarchyman99 wrote:It may be the new 40K MMO....as in a new dawn of war...play on words...

If you're right, PLEASE OH PLEASE be a FPS...

Nah, it's too early for the 40K MMO to come out. They've been talking about a DoW sequel for awhile now that would let them implement 'Nids. I think we've got at least two years before we see the 40K MMO on the horizon.

Lormax wrote:

Anarchyman99 wrote:It may be the new 40K MMO....as in a new dawn of war...play on words...

If you're right, PLEASE OH PLEASE be a FPS...

Kind of hope it isn't a FPS...Firewarrior was a disappointment as far as FPS go.

Doubt it will be the MMO...but if it is the beta, which it could be, then that would be awesome!

Maybe it's Bloodbowl, you know, with the football manager and stuff...

I really don't think that is the MMO or a shooter. Dawn of War was a success with real-time-strategy and they will stick to it. At least with the title dawn of war.

CoH was/is a blast and was the first time a strategy game topped starcraft imo. Dawn of war was nice but not as "complete" as Company of Heroes was.

Greets
Schepp himself

It is NOT the 40k MMO or an FPS. The MMO is slated for release in 2010. It's Dawn of War 2 which THQ has been talking about for quite some time.

Also because I wonder what type of animation they'll give to space marines hitting dirt.

Space Marines do not hit the dirt. They smite it, while screaming and raising their fists and pointing their swords at the sky.

On a more serious note, I'm very much worried that this new DoW will reduce my tabletop playing time by at least half. And painting... well, its always the first thing to go. Guess I'd better get the brushes out now, 'cause they're getting no love this summer.

Just because they do an article on it doesn't mean you're gonna see it anytime soon.

But it will be the first official confirmation that it's coming. Relic's awfully secretive about what they're working on until it reaches a state where they're confident announcing it, and they do have high standards for a game.

Here you go boys...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RB-aj4E5fY
has an ork

cool skull.

And a new Blood Ravens one, too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-pyjJDbB3k

cool skull.

Death By Monkeys wrote:And a new Blood Ravens one, too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-pyjJDbB3k

Did GW authorize this? At no time during that clip did the space marine raise his fist while screaming. This must be corrected immediately!

Coming Winter 2007 hey?

Cool. Should be in the bargain bin by now then!!!

BYE

All that work to screw up the year...

Ozymandias, King of Kings

Cant see the picture cause my work blocks it. BUt sounds cool. Have not played in a while. It seems a little odd since they are coming out with the new sisters stuff for the old one I thought.

While I hope there is a DoW2 coming soon, neither of these videos have anything to do with it. They are both from a lesser known game called Warhammer 40k: Glory in Death for the ngage. Someone simply edited the videos by cutting out the beginning and end, then adding in a "Coming Winter 2007" at the end. The original space marine video can be found here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smzoxku4Ijo

Those videos are from the PSP/DS 40k game, not DoW 2. Hence the year mistake you guys are wondering about.

Was that game any good?

it looked cool. Something about squad combat. Never played it.

Strimen wrote:Those videos are from the PSP/DS 40k game, not DoW 2. Hence the year mistake you guys are wondering about.

Are you sure they came from that game? I don't think it had orks. Just ultramarines vs chaos.

Oh boy, and here I am spending my money on miniatures instead of PC upgrades.

Don't these people know I can't keep up with both Miniature and PC gaming? :(

Rbb wrote:

Strimen wrote:Those videos are from the PSP/DS 40k game, not DoW 2. Hence the year mistake you guys are wondering about.

Are you sure they came from that game? I don't think it had orks. Just ultramarines vs chaos.

Squad Command for the DS/PSP never had Orks. These videos aren't for that. I never heard anything for the ngage or whatever the crap that is. These are probably just preliminary videos for DoW2 that might not have been meant for circulation.

P.S. Squad Command was a great game if you're into top down turn based stratagy games like Final Fantasy Tactics or Advance Wars.

Hi all, just wanted to confirm those videos don't have anything to do with DOWII. However, if you are fans of the game, Relic and THQ will be in attendance at all our US Games Days this year if you want to see the latest Games Workshop related things they have up their sleeve.

Chris

Hey, Go-Go! Thanks for the confirmation. Can't wait to see what Relic and THQ bring to the table at the GDs.

I loved the first one... it can only get better right?

I love how Go-Go's nickname has taken on new meaning since Kill Bill. Which is, of course, old news in the world of geekdom, but Go-Go was just recently brought to mind by this and having recently listened to his interview on 40k radio.

Chris, are you playing in any GTs this year? Any of the Indies, maybe, like the Colonial or Crossroads?

Mannahnin wrote:I love how Go-Go's nickname has taken on new meaning since Kill Bill. Which is, of course, old news in the world of geekdom, but Go-Go was just recently brought to mind by this and having recently listened to his interview on 40k radio.

Chris, are you playing in any GTs this year? Any of the Indies, maybe, like the Colonial or Crossroads?

I'll be working all the GWGT's and out visiting others like the Quake City Rumble in San Fran (shameless plug in case anyone wants to take me out for sushi/beer).

To be honest, I enjoy putting on a well-run show more than playing in a tournament (3-4 games in a day is just not quite my slice of hobby enjoyment anymore)((waits for quips form coworkers about actually having a completed army to play in said tournament...)).

Er, sorry we hijacked your DOW2 thread.

//come to Games Day to see DOW stuff - there, back on topic!

San Fran, Chris? Got your rainbow sweater vest? lol

Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Hi all, just wanted to confirm those videos don't have anything to do with DOWII.

That's just dissapointing. Stupid video had me chanting "Orks, Orks, Orks, Orks...."

either way looks like I'll need a new computer soon! Nothing quite so satisfying as watching an orkish horde swarm the runts 'oomiez into the ground. Will certainly be more satisfying to watch with a shiny new engine!



orks, orks, orks, orks, orks, orks, orks, orks....

Saw this on EOW from the Something Awful forums:

Finally Dawn of War 2 has been confirmed!

First details come from a Belgium magazine "pc gameplay #144".

-Two races revealed Orks and Space marines, more to come in future previews.
-Full co-op campaigns for both races, choose the missions you want to do to progress in campaign
-Squad limit cap of 6 squads, unclear if for singleplayer only or for both sp and mp.
-Upgradable gear for squad leaders similar to DC and SS.
-More animations
-Uses Essence engine (as in COH) with better havoc physics
-buildings can be garrisoned
-Proper scale, dreadnoughts are now bigger and can trample on orks.
-Contextual speech, for instance the Ork warlord will exclaim that the enemy leader has a thunder hammer etc.
-Destructable environments.
-lots of violence, parts of men can be ripped off, orks can be crushed etc.
-better AI similar to COH, squads will find immediate cover etc.

More details coming soon!

Release date: early 2009

Also: Dreadnoughts can trample Orks!!!

German dudes, translate this please :

stonefox wrote:
-Two races revealed Orks and Space marines, more to come in future previews.

No way! Space Marines and Orks? In DOWII? I'd never believe it...(sorry, just the way that was presented as if it would be surprising to us just...I don't know...guess I've been playing 40k too long.)

Nice pics in the ad, though!

After having so long with so many races to enjoy cuttinmg back to 2 will be hard. Hope they are really fun to play.

Also wonder how many in each expansion.

Hope to see tyranids released relatively early, if only so we don't have to hear people complain about them not being around....

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:After having so long with so many races to enjoy cuttinmg back to 2 will be hard. Hope they are really fun to play.

You don't have to cut back to two, they have only revealed two. There are more to come.

My biggest problem with a DoW sequel is the ol 'Reset Button' syndrome.

We've spent 4 years getting to Marines/Chaos/Guard/SoBs/Orks/Eldar/Dark Eldar/Tau/Necrons as full races... and now we go back to what, 3 or 4 (Marines, Orks and maybe Chaos or Eldar or both).

So it's just like resetting DoW and giving it a face list... oh and making the squad-cap even smaller.

I just don't see the point.

BYE

If there are 4 it will be all gold.

I think the great thing about DOW has been that with each upgrade they rebalanced all the armies making each of them (relatively) fresh to play again.

To use a new engine and really pump up the graphics will be great.
And I guess the minimum requirements mean I'll have to use the wife's new laptop rather than my 3 and a half year old desktop...

COH only had two sides and I loved the hell out of that game.

stonefox wrote:German dudes, translate this please :

I don't think German understand much of it, as it is written in Dutch...

But anyway here are the headlights:
You can't command more than 6 squad
Squads are more personalized, ie. named and equipped with individual weapons. This is to make you feel more attached to your squads.
You are awarded special equipment when you complete missions. They mention Thunderhammer, a flamer and a "supression rifle", which is an assault cannon I think.
Buildings and other scenery can now be destroyed.
The games AI is based on that of Company of Heroes and adapted to DoW.
They have been working on DoW 2 from September 2006 with 55 developers, which includes the original DoW team and some Company of Heroes teammembers.

Sorry, no mention of other races than Orks and Space Marines...

A tight squad limit makes me wonder how Tyranids will play, if they show up as has been rumored.

Haha, my bad black. I even lived in Germany and had to learn conversational German (but that was back in '96). Thanks for the other highlights though.

A tight squad limit makes me wonder how Tyranids will play, if they show up as has been rumored.

If "scaled units" means what I think it means, 1 squad of 5 marines is equivalent to 20 or more tyranids.

Balance wrote:A tight squad limit makes me wonder how Tyranids will play, if they show up as has been rumored.

You play Nidzilla, duh.

H.B.M.C. wrote:My biggest problem with a DoW sequel is the ol 'Reset Button' syndrome.

We've spent 4 years getting to Marines/Chaos/Guard/SoBs/Orks/Eldar/Dark Eldar/Tau/Necrons as full races... and now we go back to what, 3 or 4 (Marines, Orks and maybe Chaos or Eldar or both).

So it's just like resetting DoW and giving it a face list... oh and making the squad-cap even smaller.

I just don't see the point.

BYE

Welcome to GW gaming... DoW has gone from Second Edition to Third Edition

JohnHwangDD wrote:Welcome to GW gaming... DoW has gone from Second Edition to Third Edition

No comparison.

At the end of 2nd Ed I didn't have to give back all my models and wait for the army to be re-released.

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:Welcome to GW gaming... DoW has gone from Second Edition to Third Edition

No comparison.

At the end of 2nd Ed I didn't have to give back all my models and wait for the army to be re-released.

BYE

You'd think it was by some of the way people talk about their favorite DOW armies.

stonefox wrote:Haha, my bad black. I even lived in Germany and had to learn conversational German (but that was back in '96). Thanks for the other highlights though.

No problem, I would have problems distinguishing related languages like Swedish and Norwegian...

BTW. I flipped through the article in the magazine in a shop and saw some more pages. Their are at least 2 more, but I hadn't enough time to read it.

slightly more info here

There's some robust good old fashioned English in places on that link so if rude words ain't your proverbial cuppa......

I can see why already:

all optimised for DX10 and multicore support.

Sorry but if you want to play this game you'll have to put off your next 2 armies while you upgrade or replace your machine.

edit: Oh wait, it's the same typical fanboy circlejerking and OMG 40K CAME BEFORE STARCRAFT . I should've known. These guys probably have quadcore 4gig ram machines with the latest nvidia card and 1TB of hard drive space.

What are you on about? My machine will handle it right now...


I do feel the pain for people whose computers won't run it. I was that guy for a LONG time and work darn hard to make sure it doesn't happen again to me.

I'm really looking forward to this.

so any word as to when its coming out?

Early 2009 they say. But more likely summer or later.

stonefox wrote:I can see why already:

all optimised for DX10 and multicore support.

Sorry but if you want to play this game you'll have to put off your next 2 armies while you upgrade or replace your machine.

edit: Oh wait, it's the same typical fanboy circlejerking and OMG 40K CAME BEFORE STARCRAFT . I should've known. These guys probably have quadcore 4gig ram machines with the latest nvidia card and 1TB of hard drive space.

40k WAS Starcraft. Gw dumped it last-minute so they had to change all the races and names.

Are you saying 40k is based off of Starcraft?

No. 40k existed before starcraft, but Starcraft was originally a strategy game sponsored by GW. GW pulled out last-minute, and the company had to make lots of changes to be able to release the game.

And i bet GW realize that as their largest marketing mistake ever.

If you don't trust me, simply look at he Terrans, Protoss and Zerg, or should i say Space Marines, Eldar and Tyrannids?
Any similarities?

http://dawnofwar2.com/us/home

WEEE!

Why do they think that I want to be 'more attatched to my squads' by personalising them?

I just send them off to do a job, its a war based computer game after all....

Ever watched Band of Brothers or Saving Private Ryan, Waagh? It's like that.

I'd probably get attached to my squads if they get squad powerups. Even in mass combat games like Medieval2/Rome: Total War, I happen to like keeping my veteran squads intact.

It's actually a game balance thing; it helps prevent spamming units and sending them to their doom by making them more valuable to keep alive. Company of Heroes does this.

Is that how you were supposed to play COH? I kept my guys alive for the most part because of the pain it was to transport new guys to the front.But, I treated them like meat unless it was a mission where I couldn't afford to lose them.

God yes! Looks like I'll be buying that new flashy gaming computer soon

Ah, the classic reaction of a diehard PC gamer. So Pavlovian.

Well I already have a computer and a card to run this, but I would be picking it up any way. I really liked Dow but CoH is fantastic as well. The two of them together ought to be just great. It sounds alot like they are going back to a "Chaos Gate" sort of thing just real time rather than turned based. The teaser flick was cool, sort of wish the Nob would have smacked the marine around abit before he got brained but we all know the marines are the fav. I for one will be looking after this game.

PCGamer released their article and nuclear pogostick from SA posted scans:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s129/Nuclear_Pogostick/DOW1.png

replace # with 1-8 or BP for the other pages.

The rumored "heavy dreadnought" looks like a furioso done in a warmachine aesthetic - very top heavy.

I'm very disappointed that the company of heroes' varied forms of cover won't be carried over. They said they will stick with the "basic form" of cover. Too bad, that was one of two reasons I was going to play this game. The other was that they dove for cover and sought better cover as needed. I'll be playing Empire: Total War when this comes out.

stonefox wrote:Ah, the classic reaction of a diehard PC gamer. So Pavlovian.

Why does that name ring a bell?

malfred wrote:

stonefox wrote:Ah, the classic reaction of a diehard PC gamer. So Pavlovian.

Why does that name ring a bell?

.. Dude. Dude.

That one caused me physical pain.

malfred wrote:

stonefox wrote:Ah, the classic reaction of a diehard PC gamer. So Pavlovian.

Why does that name ring a bell?

Don't know. You're barking up the wrong tree.

I just read the article in the computer mag and I've come to this conclusion.
The main races will be Space Marine,Ork,Chaos,Nids.
The guy who wrote the article obvisiously had very little knowledge of 40k
(calling dreds Behemoth mechs,General Horus and few other things like that),that makes me think he was working off info givin to him by the game company
like a cheat sheet.
In the artcle it mentions chaos and nids a few times,(not that there was a confirmation or pics but the author had more info on them than the other races that were not mentioned.

Elusive wrote:No. 40k existed before starcraft, but Starcraft was originally a strategy game sponsored by GW. GW pulled out last-minute, and the company had to make lots of changes to be able to release the game.

And i bet GW realize that as their largest marketing mistake ever.

If you don't trust me, simply look at he Terrans, Protoss and Zerg, or should i say Space Marines, Eldar and Tyrannids?
Any similarities?

Ah no. Warcraft was originally built around the Warhammer franchise, but negotiations were never completed and the game was released with new names glued over the top of Warhammer properties. Though GW was a little pissed about this, their legal claims were more than a little iffy and there was always the chance of a counter claim for dropping out of negotiations made in good faith, so they just let the thing slide.

Starcraft was never made in collaboration with GW. The inspirations are obvious, but then GW’s business model is built around taking established archtypes and placing them in a unique form and context. To take elves, power armoured superhumans and bugs from beyond the universe isn’t a unique creation, but to put them in a universe with unique elements and characters and make a playable miniature line out of it is a unique creation. Similarly, taking the same elves, power armoured humans and bugs and adding your own unique elements and characters and making a playable computer game out of it is also a unique creation.