http://belloflostsouls.blogspot.com/2008/07/rumors-marneus-edition-and-more.html

Taken from belloflostsouls:

Marneus Calgar
First off, Marneus Calgar is described as awesome; the Abaddon of loyalists. Not simply because he's an outstanding fighter but because of the support he provides for his army. He gives all Ultramarines the ability to pass or fail any Leadership test (other reports say morale checks). This is a superior ability to Combat Tactics as that only works in CC and the marines can normally only choose to fail.

Marneus also has a rule called "God of War" which allows him to re-roll virtually anything (shooting to hit rolls, attacks rolls in assualt, to wound rolls). It is basically the psychic power Warp Time, but is always on and works with Marneus' shooting. His storm bolter built into the Gauntlets of Ultramar is AP2. Marneus had 4 base attacks on his statline and is armed with two powerfists. ~you do the math

Calgar possesses Eternal Warrior without any mention of a mantle. Power armour is apparently no longer an option for him, but his "Honour Guard" are still in power armor. Finally, he's wearing his Terminator armour with an additional 4+ invulnerable save.

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I'm so glad they are beefing him up. I've only fielded him twice and those were during apoc games and everytime he has always been 1 shotted by some insta killing weapon...

Too over the top. Marneus is just another Chapter Master, not the end-all-be-all that Abaddon should be.

I mean, Logan Grimnar and Dante are supposed to be the cream of the Marines yet they seem average compared to Marneus. Eternal Warrior? Does an Ultramarine pick up the Gauntlets and become invigored by their power?
And here I was thinking that the Salamander's guy was too powerful. But then again, given the background of collecting the artifacts, he should be. At least he has a reason to be, more than can be said from Marneus.

Waiting for puns on M.C.

Calgar was the only special character I ever used in my Ultramarines army, and I forsee that he will be used a lot more now!

Destrado wrote:Too over the top. Marneus is just another Chapter Master, not the end-all-be-all that Abaddon should be.

I mean, Logan Grimnar and Dante are supposed to be the cream of the Marines yet they seem average compared to Marneus. Eternal Warrior? Does an Ultramarine pick up the Gauntlets and become invigored by their power?
And here I was thinking that the Salamander's guy was too powerful. But then again, given the background of collecting the artifacts, he should be. At least he has a reason to be, more than can be said from Marneus.

Waiting for puns on M.C.

Marneus Calgar is the second most important figure in the Ultramarine mythos. The Ultramarines are the most dominant space marine chapter in the mythos. The space marines are the banner children for 40k. He should be over the top. He should be through the roof!

And one more thing....

Abaddon is a punk!

Has anyone ever seen him used before?

Now maybe he will get some use.

Destrado wrote:Too over the top. Marneus is just another Chapter Master, not the end-all-be-all that Abaddon should be.

I mean, Logan Grimnar and Dante are supposed to be the cream of the Marines yet they seem average compared to Marneus. Eternal Warrior? Does an Ultramarine pick up the Gauntlets and become invigored by their power?
And here I was thinking that the Salamander's guy was too powerful. But then again, given the background of collecting the artifacts, he should be. At least he has a reason to be, more than can be said from Marneus.

Waiting for puns on M.C.

He's a spase mariner. What else has to be said?

Normally I'd say something like 'already posted' or 'not news', but y'know what?

I don't care

My Half Brother not only deserves his own thread, but also all the cool rules that are coming his way and are long over due.

Next time I'm home to visit the folks, I'll be sure to borrow those Gauntlets for a try-out.

BYE

Destrado wrote:Too over the top. Marneus is just another Chapter Master, not the end-all-be-all that Abaddon should be.

You're mad, and probably a little thick. Calgar isn't just bigger than Failbaddon, he's bigger than Jervis*. The only reason it's not called Marnues Calgar 40,000 is that the thought of 40,000 Marneus Calgar's is just too awesome for any mortal to comprehend, and their heads often explode.

Destrado wrote:I mean, Logan Grimnar and Dante are supposed to be the cream of the Marines yet they seem average compared to Marneus.

They're worse than average. They're pathetic next to Calgar.

Destrado wrote:Eternal Warrior? Does an Ultramarine pick up the Gauntlets and become invigored by their power?

Damn straight he does. But I don't think the rules go far enough. Whenever he suffers a wound that would normally cause instant death, the model that inflicted that wound should suffer Instant Death as punishment for even contemplating the attempt on Calgar's life.

BYE

*Cookie for the reference

First person to think I was serious in the above post is a frickin' moron

I just hope he costs more than Abaddon...

Wow, I thought Abbadon was over the top.

Everytime I see the rumors for these characters I want to play 40k less and less.

Wtf? Abbadon is supposed to be as powerful as a primarch, the warmaster of all Chaos, and Calgar is just a chapter master. Who is writing this obscenity of a codex?

Cheese Elemental wrote:Abbadon is supposed to be as powerful as a primarch

Where was that stated?

BYE

Those are the Gauntlets of Ultramar, youngin. Their fury is unmatched.

Also, I hope he gets his throne back.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Wtf? Abbadon is supposed to be as powerful as a primarch, the warmaster of all Chaos, and Calgar is just a chapter master.

Who is to say that the Chapter Masters of 'today' aren't as powerful as the Primarchs of 10000 years ago?

I hear his Giant Hands of Ultrasmurf make grunting noises as say Hulk Smash as he waves them around. I hope the Imperial Fist get yellow Thing Feet for Lysander.

^

The fact I don't see Logan, Dante, Marneus, or any of the others breaking a Bloodthirster's back over their knee and then throwing it's corpse to the ground. That is pretty much the alpha male standard in 40K fluff.

JohnHwangDD wrote:I just hope he costs more than Abaddon...

Rumor is 250 points.

Considering Abby's current point cost I'm thinking 300 points is more like it.

spacemarinejunkie wrote:And one more thing....

Abaddon is a punk!

Oh IT'S ON now!

He might cost 500pts for all we know - so take it easy

^

Given the 40K crews rules vertigo he will probably cost cost -500 points.

stonefox wrote:

He's a spase mariner. What else has to be said?

Easy. You forgot the HURRRR



I like Marneus, dunno bout these rumors though.

I want to ask Yak for permission to post this picture every time I read a complaint about Marneus Calgar's new rules.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game!



I should state that I think his new rules are ridiculous and are an obvious attempt at getting people to use his model, but since I play Ultramarines I reserve the right to pretend that this is 100% justified and deserved for Mr. Pimp Hands.

Destrado wrote:I mean, Logan Grimnar and Dante are supposed to be the cream of the Marines yet they seem average compared to Marneus. Eternal Warrior? Does an Ultramarine pick up the Gauntlets and become invigored by their power?

We should start a pool on what Logan ends up looking like. I'm betting a rerollable invulnerable save and a daemon weapon (the Fang of Morkai is one, isn't it?) and each unsaved wound causes D6 wounds. I mean, inflicting Instant Death is passe these days...

Go to BOLS thread, do not pass BOLS thread, do not collect $200.

Unless you are HBMC or Voodoo taking the extreme ****, good work there!

Tribune wrote:Go to BOLS thread, do not pass BOLS thread, do not collect $200.

Unless you are HBMC or Voodoo taking the extreme ****, good work there!

Aww come on, this thread can only lead to more hilarity. Heck it made me update my sig!

I love that picture.

BYE

ah ha, that's what H.B.M.C stands for,

and it's either john Lennon stating the Beatle's were bigger than Jesus (which caused no end of trouble in the US),

or as a reference to a reference Imp y Celyn in soul music stating that the band with rocks in it was bigger than cheeses in Quirm a town famous for it's cheeses

Damn...beat me to it Vompy!

Dice Monkey wrote:The fact I don't see Logan, Dante, Marneus, or any of the others breaking a Bloodthirster's back over their knee and then throwing it's corpse to the ground. That is pretty much the alpha male standard in 40K fluff.

The Chapter Masters in the Dawn of War series get to and the sync kill is pretty awesome.

dr vompire wrote:and it's either john Lennon stating the Beatle's were bigger than Jesus (which caused no end of trouble in the US),

Very good.

*hands Vomp a cookie... then accidentaly crushes it in the gauntlets he 'borrowed' from his Half Brother*

Sorry about that. I don't use these things all that often...

BYE

Marneus Calgar died and was replaced by Chuck Norris.

Migsula, what'cha doing in PT?

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Damn straight he does. But I don't think the rules go far enough. Whenever he suffers a wound that would normally cause instant death, the model that inflicted that wound should suffer Instant Death as punishment for even contemplating the attempt on Calgar's life.

H.B.M.C., basically you are saying that Calgar is Chuck Norris, or am I wrong?

Chuck Norris is the Emperor. Duh.

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:The only reason it's not called Marnues Calgar 40,000 is that the thought of 40,000 Marneus Calgar's is just two awesome for any mortal to comprehend, and their heads often explode.

You know ... in APOC you could take an entire army of Barnabus Malgar, all attached together to form the Ultimate Deathstar of Deathstarness. And actually, it'd be pretty good with EW and 4+ inv, in addition to reroll-everything AP2 shooting and dozens of reroll-everything powerfist attacks

- Salvage

Y'know it's weird. I thought I was being a little OTT when, in our rules, I gave Pimp Master Calgar the ability to swing at Initiative with his Gauntlets, but only on the turn he charged (he would tired after that and go to normal Init 1).

But these rules are way better. I don't feel so bad about my ones now. Maybe I'll give him back that AV15 'Pimp Wagon' Land Raider...

BYE

WOW!! I think I just figured it out... Marneus Calgar is imperial gothic for.... CHUCK NORRIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I think you're about the third person on this page to say that, proving beyond a doubt why the White Scars don't get rules as good as the Ultramarines - even with their bikes they're still slow.

BYE

This was a great way to start my long day at work!

HBMC, why don't you use the automatic cookie dispenser on those pimpin' MC gauntlets? And take it easy on the White Scars, they don't ride bikes cuz they want too, they just can't get a ride as bling-bling and pimpmaster MC...

And btw, Chuck Norris is the emperor and the clone that Chuck Norris made from himself to be not as powerful but extra (2x) more powerful than other spase mareinz (HURR!!!) with extra bling is noneother than Marneus Calgar (HURR!!)!

Gavin Thorne wrote:HBMC, why don't you use the automatic cookie dispenser on those pimpin' MC gauntlets?

That explains the AP2 shots...

BYE

Dante only lead the Armegeddon Campain and is like a 1100 year old vampire but hey when your name is Marneus Calgon nothing else compares?

¨Damn straight he does. But I don't think the rules go far enough. Whenever he suffers a wound that would normally cause instant death, the model that inflicted that wound should suffer Instant Death as punishment for even contemplating the attempt on Calgar's life. ¨

hahahahaha, that was pure comedy!!

and the Marneus big pimpin picture allways makes me laugh me ass off, that is one of the best photo shop pics of 40K ever, i love it! I cant wait for someone to model a Mareus Calgar with that kit on.

It does say in Abbadon's codex entry that

Only the Daemon Primarchs wield as much power as Abbadon...

Or something like that. I doubt that MC has become as powerful as Abbadon through training or sheer chance. GW are stretching the fluff a bit here.

I think the "power" referred to in Abbadon's Codex entry refers to his political power rather than his personal combat prowess.

They forgot a rule on his rumored list stats.

Keep My Pimp Hand Strong!
Marneus fires not only backhands but a return strike with his palm. Marneus deals twice as many wounds in close combat.

Nurglitch wrote:I think the "power" referred to in Abbadon's Codex entry refers to his political power rather than his personal combat prowess.

Maybe you're right. Next codex Abbadon will get a demonically possessed pen for a weapon that he can use to wield his mighty political power!

Lets face it, Abbadon is no one's homeboy.

I doubt it. The primarchs could no doubt rally their god's legions and crush abby.

Cheese Elemental wrote:I doubt it. The primarchs could no doubt rally their god's legions and crush abby.

Not while Abaddon possesses the mighty BiC-Drach'nyen!

The ink from BiC-Drach'nyen is so powerful that it allows Abaddon to wield the political powers of Chaos like no other. The pen is so powerful that it never runs out of ink, for BiC-Drach'nyen cares not where the ink comes from, only that it flows freely onto the ever changing parchments of Chaos!

The legions of Chaos have yet to display their most powerful weapon CALIGRAPHY! Quake in fear at my old English style writing or my dreaded Japanese Kanji.

"And I think you're about the third person on this page to say that, proving beyond a doubt why the White Scars don't get rules as good as the Ultramarines - even with their bikes they're still slow."

Wicked H.B.M.C. just wicked.

GrandWarmasterPinto wrote:The legions of Chaos have yet to display their most powerful weapon CALIGRAPHY! Quake in fear at my old English style writing or my dreaded Japanese Kanji.

Truly with BiC-Drach'nyen at his disposal, Abaddon is the master of Chaos Politics.

He rally's the forces of Slaanesh with his masterful Caligraphy!
He rally's the forces of Khorne with ever flowing ink, and BiC-Drach'nyen can turn it into red ink on a 2+ !!
He rally's the forces of Tzeench with the ever changing parchments of Chaos that bear his orders!
And finally he rally's the forces of Nurgle with the slimey, deliberate, and persistent ink stains that BiC-Drach'nyen leaves in your shirt pocket if it is not appeased!

All shall fear 5th Edition Abaddon!

I'm more of a fan of Failbaddon, the Abaddon with no arms.

BYE

Marneus deserves to be pimped. He is, I believe, the first 40K special character to get a model, right?

Hmm... who came first? Leman Russ or Lord of McDonald's?

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:I'm more of a fan of Failbaddon, the Abaddon with no arms.

BYE

Well what do you think happens if Abaddon gets a 1 on his Legislation roll when using BiC-Drach'nyen?

Surely all demonically possessed writing instruments must have some catastrophic affect if you roll a 1, it represents the fickle nature of Chaos!

H.B.M.C. wrote:Hmm... who came first? Leman Russ or Lord of McDonald's?

BYE

think it was leman russ (plus his two wolves greki and freki) but might have been the yarrick/gazghkul combo. Course if you are looking at Epic then the demon primarchs probably win

It wasn't Marneus pimping Calgar anyway, though him sitting on the crapper with a raptor and bog-roll attendent was an early special character minature.

a man so hard he can take a crap in the middle of a battle, with a dinosaur watching, and get one of his soldiers to wipe his arse....

beat that Dante

ths thread is pure comedy, that pic of abbadon with a pen is great!

leman russ was first i believe, back when space marines were skinny. i have that old model but unfortunately not the wolves.

This just leads to a new line of Chaos special characters. Kharn, The Plagiarist, Ahriman, Proofreader of the Thousand Sons, Lucius the Secretary, Fabius Scribe, and Huron Inkheart. The most literate and vile fighting force of the 41st Millennium. Marneus Calgar and his oversized hands don't stand a chance.

Pariah Press wrote: Marneus deserves to be pimped. He is, I believe, the first 40K special character to get a model, right?

Listen, if you use that logic, then shouldn't the Crimson Fists be getting a whole lot more love than they get?

i know you guys are slightly deviating from the actual rumoured rules, but i have to bring back the whole AP2 guns. i mean, it seems to me like a lot of the rules that have bee coming out recently are simply " this gun sucks cos it cant kill marines, so we best change them all to ap3/2". has anybody else noticed this (and GW seems to give very little reason as to why these weapons shoot like mini lascannons now).

And before anyone says im a hater cos these now go through power armor, i dont really care as i play the mighty flashlight army i just hope this is a downward slope for the game to come

well the explanation will be one of these. Magic, Faith, or mysterious technology.

and with everyone having a 4+ cover save now, who cares anyway?

Yep, I might just model marines holding pieces of drywall in front of them to ward off bullets.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Hmm... who came first? Leman Russ or Lord of McDonald's?

BYE

Ronald Macragge, for sure. He was released within a couple of months of Rogue Trader. Leman Russ was late 1st edition (Jes Goodwin's drawing was in the Yellow Book), when the Space Wolves got their Viking face-lift. The daemon primarchs for Epic were probably a bit later than that.

As far as the Crimson Fists go, I say it's about time they made a Pedro Cantor model!

Only AP2? I would have thought that the bestest spase marien (hurr!) would get a better supergun. Str10 AP1 at the very least.

He could settle for nothing less than Strength D AP1 10" blast. Nothing less I say!

This is almost as good as watching WoW meets South Park!

Of course the most badarse character in 40k would have to mforking miffs. Double bitchslaps?

Wasn't the first Marine character actually the Ultramarine's Primarch, Guilliman?
Also, the Mentors would also be an interesting chapter to revisit.

GrandWarmasterPinto wrote:This just leads to a new line of Chaos special characters. Kharn, The Plagiarist, Ahriman, Proofreader of the Thousand Sons, Lucius the Secretary, Fabius Scribe, and Huron Inkheart. The most literate and vile fighting force of the 41st Millennium. Marneus Calgar and his oversized hands don't stand a chance.

What do you think his oversized hands are for? Very loud sign language.

Who needs to take time with the painstaking process of writing stuff down when you have massive hands that can speak to a nation in a fraction of the time!!!

BYE

Destrado wrote:Wasn't the first Marine character actually the Ultramarine's Primarch, Guilliman?

The model was simply called 'Lord Macragge'. Now, given that the Ultra-Marines (as they were called) were Successor Chapter back in the day, and how originally there was no Horus Heresy, I think it's safe to say that quite a bit has been retconned. As 'Lord Macragge' was never named as either Calgar of Guilliman, they can say whatever they want about who he was. I'm happy to stick to the story that it's always been Calgar, and that my Half Brother was and always will be 40K's first special character.

BYE

I thought I read in WD back when the Armageddon codex came out that the first 41st Millennium special characters were Yarrick & Ghazghkull (or however it's spelled) and that they started over in Epic and transplanted over to 40K later.

And in at least the 2nd Ed Codex Ultras, Calgar was listed as being "Lord Macragge"

The original miniature was called "Lord Macragge;" it was clearly based on the (awesome) painting from WD97 (reprinted in the Red Book) which was captioned "Imperial Commander Marneus Calgar, Lord Macragge" or somesuch. The same White Dwarf article (the very first Index Astartes article) included background and stats for Calgar (along with many other Ultra-Marines officers).

Yarrick and Ghazkull came years later, no matter what some article says.

Pariah Press wrote: Yarrick and Ghazkull came years later, no matter what some article says.

Well, it was WD info, so I didn't trust it.

Voodoo Boyz wrote:

Tribune wrote:Go to BOLS thread, do not pass BOLS thread, do not collect $200.

Unless you are HBMC or Voodoo taking the extreme ****, good work there!

Aww come on, this thread can only lead to more hilarity. Heck it made me update my sig!

Voodoo That's the greatest sig pic I've seen... consider me helping Pimp Calgar's world domination.

Pariah Press wrote: The original miniature was called "Lord Macragge;" it was clearly based on the (awesome) painting from WD97 (reprinted in the Red Book) which was captioned "Imperial Commander Marneus Calgar, Lord Macragge" or somesuch. The same White Dwarf article (the very first Index Astartes article) included background and stats for Calgar (along with many other Ultra-Marines officers).

So, was he the actual first Special Character?

Any idea who the other characters were, or what Pimp Master Calgar's rules were?

BYE

I'm pretty sure I ditched my WD stash years ago, although it might still be boxed somewhere. But yes, Calgar or 'Lord Macragge' was unveiled in WD97 as Ultramarines were the first chapter to receive the Index Astartes treatment in WD. The term special character didn't exist then, but in essence, yes he was the first.

I don't think he had much in the way of special rules, having two power fists was considered pretty impressive enough at that time. Mainly because codex creep* had yet to be invented.

* Of course, only because codices hadn't come out yet either. WD105 had a complete army list for all Space Marine chapters, ever.

Calgar also had a back story where he was the last surviving member of a tyranid attack. Apparently he was so badly cut up that they replaced his arms and legs with bionics. With my favorite qute "He's more machine now than man" the article explained how Calgar is pretty much useless in a strait up fight but still goes onto the battlefield to give his guideance to his fellow Ultra-Marines.

The Stephen Hawking of war.

¨The Stephen Hawking of war. ¨

Yes! He will limp up in his chin controlled terminator armor and perplex you with the mysteries of the universe (+e=mc2) while pimp slaping you with his gloves of pimpness.

all the while giving orders to his roll dogs in a slurred yet comanding voice!

H.B.M.C. wrote:So, was he the actual first Special Character?

Any idea who the other characters were, or what Pimp Master Calgar's rules were?

BYE

Marneus Calgar, Rogue Trader Style:

M 8
WS 6
BS 6
S 4
T 4 (note, this was when standard marines were T 3)
W 3
I 6
A 3
Ld 9
Int 9
Cl 9
WP 9
Points 589.5

As Calgar no-longer takes the field, he does not normally wear powered armour, although he does take the precaution of carrying a conversion field. The following equipment is carried at all times.

Power glove - built into right bionic arm. Includes 4 Jokaero digital lasers and a knife.
Power glove - built into left bionic arm. Includes web gun and communicator.
Infra-vision surgical implants.
Bionic right eye - with targeter, bio-scanner and energy-scanner.
Bionic legs
Bionic lungs
Conversion field armour

Calgar hates Tyranids.

"Calgar hates Tyranids." I think that'll be my .sig for a while...

Other characters include Lieutenant-Commander Cha Lee (who usually leads my army), the (half-eldar) Chief Librarian Illiyan Natase, Master of the Apothecarion Hulm Singa, (navigator) Master of the Ships Christo Columbine, Master of the Forge Samuel Dexter, Master of the Ordnance (and 2nd Co. Captain) Keorn Asata (oh, those Rogue Trader names!), Master of the Household Fimor Dour, Master of Sanctity Tow Takka-chow, and (human) Reclusiarch Leo Caberra.

Doesn't everyone hate Tyranids?

And Necrons?

Especially Necrons.

It's a requirement on 40K entrance exams to choose a hate for either group, both preferably if you ask the Emperor.

Pariah Press wrote:the (half-eldar) Chief Librarian Illiyan Natase,

Ah, now that's the Rogue Trader I know and love.

Spacemarinejunkie:
I've been playing chaos space marines for fourteen years, and I hate to say it, but compared to the new ultrasmurf, Abaddon is a punk. Of course, now all chaos space marines are nothing but wandering emo tweens with no focus.

We should start a pool on what Logan ends up looking like. I'm betting a rerollable invulnerable save and a daemon weapon (the Fang of Morkai is one, isn't it?) and each unsaved wound causes D6 wounds. I mean, inflicting Instant Death is passe these days...

HEH HEH HEH....this would be light for the Imperium's Greatest Warrior!

I'm Thinking the Axe Morkai acts like a ThunderHammer that goes at init 8 and confers +4 attacks and a 2+ invulnerable save.

JediRaptor wrote:

We should start a pool on what Logan ends up looking like. I'm betting a rerollable invulnerable save and a daemon weapon (the Fang of Morkai is one, isn't it?) and each unsaved wound causes D6 wounds. I mean, inflicting Instant Death is passe these days...

HEH HEH HEH....this would be light for the Imperium's Greatest Warrior!

I'm Thinking the Axe Morkai acts like a ThunderHammer that goes at init 8 and confers +4 attacks and a 2+ invulnerable save.

I say nay to you sir, because that was quite broken the first time around. But it would probably fit in just fit in well with the new space marine stuff now so why not.

Voodoo Boyz wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:I doubt it. The primarchs could no doubt rally their god's legions and crush abby.

Not while Abaddon possesses the mighty BiC-Drach'nyen!

The ink from BiC-Drach'nyen is so powerful that it allows Abaddon to wield the political powers of Chaos like no other. The pen is so powerful that it never runs out of ink, for BiC-Drach'nyen cares not where the ink comes from, only that it flows freely onto the ever changing parchments of Chaos!

Ink for the ... oh nevermind!

warpcrafter wrote:...Of course, now all chaos space marines are nothing but wandering emo tweens with no focus.

QFT brother, QFT!

Here's hoping that Yarrick will also get Eternal Warrior!

*hands Vomp a cookie... then accidentaly crushes it in the gauntlets he 'borrowed' from his Half Brother*

WTF! I never got my cookies!!

BrookM wrote:Here's hoping that Yarrick will also get Eternal Warrior!

Eternal Warrior. AP2 Storm Bolter. A Power Klaw that swings at Initative. +D6 attacks from his Bale Eye. 3+ Invul Save due to his energy shield. WS5 BS5 W4. He'll be in every Guard army, all the time, across the galaxy, simultaneously.


Honestly, for Yarrick, T4 will do. The current Yarrick is Yarrick-Lite.

BYE

So you're gonna turn Yarrick into Wolverine? I mean he's the only other person I know of who can be everywhere at once.

GrandWarmasterPinto wrote:So you're gonna turn Yarrick into Wolverine? I mean he's the only other person I know of who can be everywhere at once.

Eldrad is in every Eldar army at once, so why should Yarrick be any different?

BYE

Still though, I wouldn't be surprised if Yarrick got Eternal Warrior. GW has these lovely new special rules and they need to tack it on every army in order to showcase them.

Yarrick should get a cool claw of some kind. S8.

With a Fearless rule. I bet Guard will get a pile of new characters ala the Space Marine guys.

Lets hope that Guard get free/cheap heavy weapons too!

Eldrad is in every Eldar army at once, so why should Yarrick be any different?

Stupid Eldrad

Pariah Press wrote:Master of Sanctity Tow Takka-chow

Wow, what a cool name.

Whatever happened to the Jakero, by the way? I vaguely remember this race/name from way back in the day...

Mort wrote:

Pariah Press wrote:Master of Sanctity Tow Takka-chow

Wow, what a cool name.

Whatever happened to the Jakero, by the way? I vaguely remember this race/name from way back in the day...

Not really killed off but not usable in the game as it is. They are sometimes mentioned vaguely like other relics of times long gone. Games Workshop is keeping these things alive on the cheap for possible future use (my guess).

Inquisitors can still take digi-weapons in 40k and Inquisitor.

[keeps waiting for a hrud dex]

Jokaero were tech-savants, described IIRC as large orangutan-type creatures who had a natural disposition to fabricate amazing tech arcana. Jokaero digital weapons* were the most commonly referred to Jok constructs but this was not the limit of their abilities. In the WH40K 1st edition book, they had an entry but that was back in the days when races were presented in more of a 'Bestiary' fashion, as ideas and rules for GMs to make use of. They were low WS, S, T, rubbish in close combat but randomly awesome tech. Always makes me think of Tau...

* Granted one extra attack for free in CC (maybe shooting?) and could be a digital laser, needler or hand flamer! Jok digital weapons were costed at 50pts each in the first 40k 'competitive' army lists published (Chapter approved).

I now miss the 40kI rulebook and CA books that I cashed in on eBay some time back. Nostalgia is a harsh mistress!

Yeah, those first edition books are great. I've been collecting them over the last few years. I still have a few to get yet.

The current Marneus is the crap. Really only Tigurius gets used in a tourney setting, and even then it's in a specific army build.

I'm glad they revised him, and just giddy that I play Ultramarines. Hehe!

And as far as OP goes, Necrons have the Monolith. There. You gimmie something else that good for under 250 points, GW, and make 'im a smurf, and I'mma have yer babies. Rawr.

I'm gonna miss the pic of MARNEUS CALGAR!!! (pronounced with tongue stuck in bottom lip) on the front of the marine codex, about to perform the most devastating move known to man, THE CALGAR SMASH!!! with piles of marines ducking to avoid being squished inbetween to massive, frantically clapping ginormo hands. At least that's how I see it.

I hope as many Space Marine players field Marneus as the eldar players that field Eldrad.

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HAHA, YES! There's definitely going to be some "Barneus Malgars" fighting for the Grey Plastic Legions, and a whole slew of new fanfiction about how Barneus is nothing at all like Marneus, he just happens to have the Unpainted Handgrips of the Emperor's Wrath and be like, totally buff. N' stuff.

I use him in almost every apoc game I ever playd

Marneus should have a custom landraider known as the pimp-mobile


Why not have Marneus in every battlefield, already Eldrad, Fateweaver, Snikrot, Mephiston is every other battle.

Maybe it's (unintentionally) indicative of the current state of 40K - they hate options and army variations so much that even the 'special' characters are always the same, with everyone taking the exact same one.

BYE

Complete and utter proliferation reigns anew.

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but I have the urge to jous every ultra marine special car in apoc

Calgar is only inferior to the Emperor because he can't wipe his own arse.

I know the Emperor can't either, but he has a large golden (japanese-made) toilet that does it for him and dumps his load in a warp portal.

that was cool. i should sig it... but i only sig myself.

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