hi all this is my first try at converting and using green stuff, my first army other than ultra smurfs.
please let me know what you all think
C&C welcome

phill

The rhino with dead guard on it is freaky scary looking, as an IG player even I like it. Looking good, keep up the good work.

still more, marines wip and some back packs in verious stages

thanks 'ghost' (if i may call you that. . the idea was that papa nurgle gave the rhino a gift for the great service done. what better nurgle gift than 'extra armour' as he loves making us hard to kill. so i came up with the idea of a living 'slime' that acts as the extra armour, the catch being that you need to keep it alive and the only way to do that is feed it with the remains (living or dead) of defeated enemy. so you have to keep up the good work or you lose the gift. i kinda like that idea as it seems to fit well with DG/nurgle fluff.
also i went a bit crazy (thanks to cadavour!) modelling basic rhinos, but i want to keep my army very DG which means no tanks. just foot soldiers and a rhino or two. so i have a possessed rhino (the lower bs of 3 being shown by the 'giant' not looking where he is pointing the gun and having one eye covered in slime so he lacks depth perception etc) and one with extra armour.
coming up with different ideas for each marine is more challanging.....im thinking of changinf the shape of some shoulder pads.....what do you all think....good idea? there are only so many different 'fat belly's' i can come up with.
will post more when i have done more!

phill

ps. like i said im new to this so C&C very gratefully recieved thanks

Hey Phil, that's some gribbly work there.

I find my self relating to you on the art of miniature recycling! Noticed the blue plastic Genestealer hand straight away; I used to have a box of them and the parts ended up everywhere.

Just a quick question; what tools do you use? I messed around with a cocktail stick but all the little grooves I made threw green stuff ''hair'' up the sides. Bit of a nightmare to be honest. I found it hard to get a clean depression, so if you have any techniques, spill them!

Best of luck with the project.

wow, anti-mag its odd being asked for tips lol.
i mainly used the GW sculpting tool. slap on the green stuff, spread it about a bit, leaving it thicker in places you would expect to find the most slime and then make a hole in it, and from that centre point push out in all directions.
for the marines bellies i let the green stuff get a little harder once i have the basic shape im after, then with plenty of water ill use the pointy end of the tool and kinda make up what i think looks right as i go. i usually find all the 'stretchy/tight' looking parts are already there after i have made the basic shape and just need a little help.
i have also used the triangle shaped file from my set as it has a very fine point to it. so for the 'dots' i used this.
hope that helps
phill
ps. yes i have used a few hands. i have so many odd bits and bobs. the havoc launcher is sitting on the tri pod of an old dwarf weapon, the giant arm is an old GUO....etc etc. all good fun

Anti-Mag wrote:Hey Phil, that's some gribbly work there.

I find my self relating to you on the art of miniature recycling! Noticed the blue plastic Genestealer hand straight away; I used to have a box of them and the parts ended up everywhere.

Just a quick question; what tools do you use? I messed around with a cocktail stick but all the little grooves I made threw green stuff ''hair'' up the sides. Bit of a nightmare to be honest. I found it hard to get a clean depression, so if you have any techniques, spill them!

Best of luck with the project.

ahh yes the green stuff stickiness strikes again. I sometimes use a thin coating of Vaseline on my tools to prevent that. Some people use water or olive oil for the same purpose. I've tried all 3 and prefer the Vaseline (wow that just sounds so wrong ). Anyway, remember that you need to clean the surface after the putty hardens for painting or applying more green stuff.

thats a good tip chaosdave! thanks i shall give it a whirl....if i manage to get some that is.....still gotta be easier than the 'something for the weekend sir?' conversation

phill

Wow, the conversion work is awesome! I can't wait to see this painted.

Especially the Rhino with the Guard bodies.

Those are some of the coolest nurgle rhinos. Amazing.
Can't wait to see paint.

Okay. That Rhino takes the Demonic Possession vehicle upgrade to a new level. Wowsers!

The WORK on them is nice. Very well done.
I'm going to stick to CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, mostly, in this reply... but keep in mind it's because most of my compliments would just repeat what's already been said.

Rhino 1: Daemonic Possession.
This is my favorite of the Rhinos... but I think you've made a mistake.
With the new TLOS rules, you can expect to almost never get a cover save. The size of the Daemon that's coming out of that baby is immense.
Like the metal arm and inclusion of the TL Bolter.
WAY too mych GS work for my tastes (I read your post, though. I understand what you were going for... it just doesn't "grab" me).

Rhino 2:
Even. More. Greenstuff.
I've covered my thoughts on the escessive GS work already, so I won't go any further on that.
I LOVE the inclusion of the IG, but I think you should have posed them differently. Leaving their feet as "stock" from the box makes their feet look weird while they hang from the front & sides of the tank.
I may swipe this idea some day, but the Guardsmen will be modeled as if trying to escape (their feet will be hidden), or I will cut & GS the legs/feet for more natural poses.

DG bellies... These are my least favorite of the lot. Something about the bellies just isn't grabbing me. They're not BAD looking... They just don't make me perk up & take notice. KWIM?

All in all, good effort and good job!

Eric

SSSSSSWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTT

Great GS work, i love the tank apart from the guardsmen(i play guard ) you should have used eldar or tau lol, Great work though.

I think you're doing a fantastic job, really making Papa Nurgle proud. Super GS'd rhinos are totally sweet and I like where you're going with the plague marine conversions. The pipes on the backpacks are looking good in particular (sort of Cadaver-esque, in the best possible way).

- Salvage

Thanks for the sig quote ChaosDave

Slimy, nasty, rotting disgusting, beautiful!

MagickalMemories wrote:The WORK on them is nice. Very well done.
I'm going to stick to CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, mostly, in this reply... but keep in mind it's because most of my compliments would just repeat what's already been said.

Rhino 1: Daemonic Possession.
This is my favorite of the Rhinos... but I think you've made a mistake.
With the new TLOS rules, you can expect to almost never get a cover save. The size of the Daemon that's coming out of that baby is immense.
Like the metal arm and inclusion of the TL Bolter.
WAY too mych GS work for my tastes (I read your post, though. I understand what you were going for... it just doesn't "grab" me).

Rhino 2:
Even. More. Greenstuff.
I've covered my thoughts on the escessive GS work already, so I won't go any further on that.
I LOVE the inclusion of the IG, but I think you should have posed them differently. Leaving their feet as "stock" from the box makes their feet look weird while they hang from the front & sides of the tank.
I may swipe this idea some day, but the Guardsmen will be modeled as if trying to escape (their feet will be hidden), or I will cut & GS the legs/feet for more natural poses.

DG bellies... These are my least favorite of the lot. Something about the bellies just isn't grabbing me. They're not BAD looking... They just don't make me perk up & take notice. KWIM?

All in all, good effort and good job!

Eric

first off thank you a lot for your time and input.

i see what you mean about the guard feet. legs in general are bit of a bane of mine. i find them really hard to reposition (which is why my marines all stand the same way etc) to get that 'natural' look. they always end up looking like they had polio as kids. i shall have a look over the weekend and see if i can find a way to improve them. maybe just snip off the feet so they look submerged into the tank....hmmm.

the TLOS rule is one i hadnt thought about. i guess it is a bit too big to be considered a 'tail' or 'wing' etc . still, might help me hide my marines advance....we shall see how bad a mistake when i play with it.

as for the 'bellies' i think your right. they dont grab me completely either. i think the trouble i had here was not really knowing what i wanted to achieve. a few of them i really like like the guy with no bellie and bullet holes up one side with half his helmet blown off. i like that....it kinda tells a story. the fatter, stretched torsos are ok too. i love the split open chest plate and bellie idea, but this sums up my error i think. split by what? if its rot, slim, intestine etc then it should look as such. it looks like the armour has been split open by...er...armour. i wish i could say my painting will save the day but im not so hot at that either lol


to everyone else thanks! i confess to being a bit supised (and pleased!) by the responce. feel free to continue lol.

always looking to improve

phill

hi again,

so i have been thinking about paint colours etc.....feed back needed.

my basic idea is to have them painted in the old grey/white with green trim pre-heresy colours. but to nurgle up the scheme with washes. im thinking things like where a bullet hole in the armour exists to use very thin lines showing rot/pox spreading out from the hole over the armour. like ivy i guess. using brown/green paint/ink. to represent them not long after the heresy, so you can still see bits of the white armour albeit dirty. and for the eyes, i have a hankering for gold. i want a kinda otherworldly/evil power glow look. how does that sound?

and the vehicles.....again when you can see armour it will be dirty white, but as for the green stuff etc...any ideas?

because of this scheme im thinking of priming with white spray followed by the new washes.

any help,tips etc would be welcome!

thanks

phill

Color-wise, I agree with the idea to spray pure white base to start, and then shade with green and brown washes to get the "Nurgle" effect. Weapons can start chainmail and darken with the same washes for a corroded effect.

BTw, go with dark green and dark metallic shoulderpads / accents for visual contrast.

All I can say is that for a first time GS user that is some pretty good work.

Looking forward to the paint.

looking good so far keep up the good work, and from a fellow death guard player, Just great use of gs to gamke plague

JohnHwangDD wrote:Color-wise, I agree with the idea to spray pure white base to start, and then shade with green and brown washes to get the "Nurgle" effect. Weapons can start chainmail and darken with the same washes for a corroded effect.

BTw, go with dark green and dark metallic shoulderpads / accents for visual contrast.

i was going to go for dark green armour trim, probably all over, but what do you mean by 'and dark metalic'? where exactly. im a lil confused by what you mean.

many thanks

phill

yeah,
awesome work phil, the extra armour is crazy, and i thought the other rhino was going to count as a defiler!
Panic..

cool, lets see you paint it

perfect. i love that sort of really disturbing element of some parasite within the vehicle, much like with the soul grinder. spooky stuff, keep at it

thanks guys, your words really do inspire the soul, helping me trough the hours of removing flippin' mould lines :(.
sorry for the delay in updating i leant the camera to me sis for 'a few days'......some weeks ago!
i have finished modelling three/four squads of seven marines and about to finish some termies and a lord and typhus (i like to do all the GS at the same time so i have something to do when others are drying).
apart from having trouble getting my resin FW dread to actually stick together im putting off painting them....i just cant decide what to do....and after all this work i dont wanna muck it up...you know?
anyway will post more picks when i can
thanks again
phill

phillpowell wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:Color-wise, I agree with the idea to spray pure white base to start, and then shade with green and brown washes to get the "Nurgle" effect. Weapons can start chainmail and darken with the same washes for a corroded effect.

BTw, go with dark green and dark metallic shoulderpads / accents for visual contrast.

i was going to go for dark green armour trim, probably all over, but what do you mean by 'and dark metalic'? where exactly. im a lil confused by what you mean.

many thanks

phill

Hi Phil.

I was suggesting paint the pad interior dark green or boltgun metal - this gives some color / texture that contrasts against the plain white of the armor, and ties in with your washes. Simply doing the edge doesn't give enough contrast to the model, IMO.

If I were doing them, the shoulders would be dark green interior with boltgun metal edges or vice versa, depending on the effect I was going for.

/John

Very nice work, especially on the rhino, Keppe up the good work.

BDA

can't wait to see the painted models!! Looking good... I'm also a fist time GS user, and have to say that it wasn't as hard as I first thought it would be.

UPDATE! finally got the cam back from my sis!

here are most of the marines i have done. i have the ten forge world DG upgrades coming and the 5 termie ones too. so they shall add to the pot. (hopefully i shall get some painted up while i wait for them!)
also i have used some old chaos metal marines i have along with an old SM chaplian figure just to add some variaty.
let me know your thoughts
many thanks

here is my WIP chaos lord conversion. its the first time i have done this kinda thing and im kinda happy with it. its based on an old inquisitor termie figure (you can see i have another set still in the blister so i didnt feel too bad about destroying this one for papa nurgle!) that i went to town on with my little electric hobby drill. i used it to remove all the old insignia, purity seals etc, and then used it to 'weather' the armour. all those lovely straight edges gone.....i wanted it to look old, very old. a lord figure that had suffered from the rotting, rusting, armour erroding atmospheres it would have been exposed too.
as for the weapons, daemon weapon sword and the old psycannon i think can 'count as' a twin linked bolter...a kinda master crafted thing....?
i also really like the pose, the original model leans forward a lot! but by removing the feet, standing it upright and giving him a pot bellie it has the slow, lumbering, soaking up fire look i was after.
the bit left to do is the top of the model. my other termies have the typhus vents as this one will, but i wanted some sort of banner too. either joining the two poles, or off each of them...(kinda japnese style). i havent decided yet, i hope to have it done by the end of today/tomorrow.

here are my termies. i have the forge world kit on order as i said but for now these guys will be the retinue for my lord conversion, or typhus.
the dreadnought is a must, simply cos it looks great.

so here we have one with paint! its the one i did based on a free beserker i got in a WD some eons ago. i dont like it much so im using it as a test piece. i post it unfinished just to prove i am painting now!
also a pile on the back packs ill paint seperately before putting on the marines.
along with some random pics of all the old models im stripping. some very old (and very cool) metal SM etc.
the four individual chaos marines with heavy weapons.....i did try and think of a way to make them fit in my army but i cant really. so i dont know quite what to do with them. seems a shame to put them back in a box. classics like these need to be loved. painted. and played with.
ah and the soap dish....of all the old plastic beaky marines from my youth....(box sets of 30 marines!...so cheap compared to today) these are the only ones that stripped well enough to re paint. just goes to show. THIN YOUR PAINT! lol

now....do i use these old ones in this army....or with the smurfs....hmm
phill

on a modelling note, i need some advice about the bases.
i want to use the water effects stuff from GW.....or to put it another way i want to make them look slimy. any tips on the best way?
how do you colour the slime for example....should i put some slate, rubble etc on the base first? and paint it before the slime is added?
as you can see.....i have never done it before. but the idea seems very nurgle to me. they bring the slime to every battle field....oh yeah.....unlike those slaanesh wimps....that just bring the noise......(oh god that was bad wasnt it?) sigh.
phill.

ps. again thanks to everyone for helping me out. and of course to the cadavers of this world that inspire so much!

phillpowell wrote:on a modelling note, i need some advice about the bases.
i want to use the water effects stuff from GW.....or to put it another way i want to make them look slimy. any tips on the best way?
how do you colour the slime for example....should i put some slate, rubble etc on the base first? and paint it before the slime is added?
as you can see.....i have never done it before. but the idea seems very nurgle to me. they bring the slime to every battle field....oh yeah.....unlike those slaanesh wimps....that just bring the noise......(oh god that was bad wasnt it?) sigh.
phill.

ps. again thanks to everyone for helping me out. and of course to the cadavers of this world that inspire so much!

Wood glue and inks, washes, water down paint.

When a chapter approved came out featuring swamps I decided to take 15 minutes and make some. Finish the models have them primered and based, but leave areas in their bases for the glue to rest. Water down the glue just enough so it will settle across the puddle area. Mix the paints in swirling lightly. You should try this out in the plastic blister cases before using it on a model. You can stack the glue over itself. The problem with some of my swamps is that the cardboard pizza boxes (really wasn't taking it seriously) curled up when the glue dried. This won’t happen on the miniature bases.

Here are the results:

Here is another example of wood glue as slime from one of my old models. In this case it is just a thin, water down puddle of wood glue without any coloring. I primered and colored the base before applying the glue. Took all of 2 seconds to put down a puddle of slime using this method. Just leave a recess on the model for the glue to settle.

I found Green Stuffing quite hard...... I failed epically...... what colors are you going to paint them?

Whoa. This is quite a project, I can almost hear those poor guardsmen on the rhino begging for mercy as the remorseless chaos marines walk past them.

I say screw TLOS, dont let that stop your imagination.

I like how varied the marines are looking, this will be a truly chaotic army for sure. Awesome job.

lookin good, can't wait to see it painted.

love the use of pre heresy helmets on the termies.

thank you for your kind words.
as for the painting, im priming them all white, painting the trim ork hide green foundation paint, weapons are going to be a red/rusty colour and then lots of washes. black and green with some brown. right now im experimenting on the one pictured above (with the purple ork head lol) as i dont like it so much. im using watered down skull white and trying the 'stripey' paint job. it kinda works but maybe not nurgle enough.....and some of the GS bellies etc dont lend them selves to the stripey paint job. sigh. its all very confusing really. lol. when i get it close enough ill post a pic and get some other thoughts.
phill

top notch conversion work, LOVE IT!

ok so here is my paint scheme. i have used my least favourite models as a test piece. i would really like some C&C before i crack on with the rest of them!!
the bolt gun i have painted red, but im wondering if i could get away with a tin bitz rust based scheme....simply to speed up the time taken to paint.
please let me know your thoughs.

as ever, many thanks
phill

VERY nice color scheme there!

Full speed ahead, I say!

DAMN!!! The metal looks okay, no complaints, but PLEASE tell me how you painted the armour, it is brilliant! Was that a series of whiet strokes or some other act of genius?

I'm with Alpharius on this one, those white stripes look ring-a-ding-ding. I think a look that is often overlooked with death guard is the portrayal of their armour. It's always refered to as knackered and cracked but it has a really distictive look in many illustrations, which you've admirably conveyed here. The surface looks almost like a sickly tree bark, or grooved bone. This also compliments the cloven feet. I think your technique is very good, with depth.

I skimmed over your thread and noticed that you're employing some old skool marines in there too. I would question whether they'd fit in with contemporary DG, but then they may just blend in if placed in a squad. I'm all for Chaotic insanity, but I would hate to see the effort you've invested become undone by something as trivial as (now) below par miniatures. Just a thought, and obviously a personal preference.

Keep the posts coming.

As an aside, I've been working on a vindicator and our use of green stuff is uncannily similar...

Very cool painted armor on that plague marine, I would probably pick out some of the details in a contrasting color to prevent it from looking too monochrome myself. I like the red gun!

Dude thats amazing! very nice armor i love it! Amazing job!!

very nice

This looks realy disgusting.... I love it!

I'm working on death guard at the moment as well, i'm also doing allot of green stuffing but i can get allot of inspiration looking at what you did. ^^
Realy nice man!

jedi76: i see your point and i think your right, maybe paint the skulss a metal/rusted colour, or gold.

anti-mag: i see your point too, but i like using the old marines. these guys are meant to have been around for thousands of years and i wanted some ancient armour to represent that, i have also ordered the 'armour through the ages' kits to add the same kinda depth. i kinda like it, but i do see what you mean.

as for the paint on the armour i confess i wasnt sure what the reaction would be. so i am really pleased you all think its ok! as to how i did it..i hesitate to ask but....you guys want a tutorial or something? or just a written list of steps?

as ever many thanks
phill

just a list would be great, and yeah, you are doin a fab job and since I am about to start painting another plague marine army would love to get some pointers from the master!

With the new TLOS rules, you can expect to almost never get a cover save. The size of the Daemon that's coming out of that baby is immense.

The deamon coming off the tank is not part of the hull, it is part of the weapon and TLOS allows you to ignore weapons, tails, wings, ect. That would be my arguement. Of course if you use this arguement then you can't state that the deamon on top of the rhino blocks LOS to model behind...so there is a trade off.

quick painting guide for the armour:
spray white primer
green ork hide foundation all armour trim
pain the eyes gold (im gonna try this on helmets AND heads for that internal power look)
paint the bolter casing mechrite foundation red and the rest of the bolter and knife tin bitz.
using the new washes: wash in black (heavily focuss in recess etc) then brown, then green, a real heavy coat of green.
water down skull white and apply over the armour in thin, quick stripes, until you get a fair coverage. (this may mean going over some areas more than once but its dry as soon as it hits the model so it took no time.) once that was done i washed the armour again in brown, before going over it again with the watered down white.
the bolter is highlighted with mechrite red, then mechrite red with bleach bone for the extreme line. the armour trim is highlighted with camo green.
it sounds long but actually it didnt take that long and i paint slower than my nan knits. with batches of ten i should be able to crack on at pace. when i get the time to crack on at pace though.
im thinking that for my character models using more than one colour of stripes (i.e. brown, bleach bone and white) will add more depth and help them stand out....you think that will work or look messy?)

hope this helps

phill

Okay, think I got it. Gunna give it a go and post some picks to see if it came out close.

Any chance of pics to go with that description on how to paint the armour?

Pretty Please?

:-)

I gave it a go and I could not pull it off like you did. This is what came of it:

Not too terribly unhappy with what came out but I like your's better.
And yeah, mind if we get some pics?

Actually, I like how yours turned out, very dirty yet clean.

I dig very much the paint scheme.

also, in those pics of your bits, I saw a Zoat! Make the zoat in your nurgle army! please!

well, that sucks. someone posting, in my post, a better painted miniature....huff...mumble...grumble....

no no no, dude, you are still the master and we BEG you to give us a picture tutorial

wow some of those minis are ANCIENT! i havnt seen those since i was a lil kid playing with my older brother. also those look EPIC! really good job. some of you guys are too comfy using GS lol

yeah,
Machine slave get yer own thread...
Phil I wana see the paint on your dread and rhino!! PM me when your ready for a game.

PaniC...

no phil... i wanna see your dread ON a rhino. now that may/would be cool/pointless

all looks great btw

Can you *please* give us a quick tutorial on how you painted the armor on those death guard?! I'd like to give it a go too but know I'd mess it up without a little help.

sorry for the delay. im about to start working on the tutorial tomorrow so hope to have it posted either at the weekend or early next week. life has an unfortunant way of butting in on the schedule...GGRRrrrrrr!
looking forward to it. i also got the FW termie and marine nurgle bits in the post and cant wait to get these done....but i wanna paint what i have first and then USE them! Panics gonna destroy me....but then that always happens when i start to roll dice....sigh.
im also stripping my old rhinos,predator and LR....thinking about some more funky vehicle nastiness to do but thats not for a while.
thanks as ever
phill

hi guys,

sorry its been a while unfortunantly i have been real busy and then really ill. to ill to work....but even too ill so sit and paint!!!! grumble....bah.....humbug!......mmmrrgggrrrr....mutter...phoey.

anyway, i have added to my collection. i have the FW DG CSM upgrade, 'the armour through the ages' and the nurgle metal banner bearer all modelled up and i have everything undercoated ready to paint. i decided not to put typhus vents on all the back packs. i didnt want everything to look the same. i really like the idea of some ancient CSM but also some newbies only just finding the true path so some will even have imperial packs while others packs with spikey bits etc etc. nothing to do with the time it takes to GS vents....nooooo.
i have 'finished' my test marine as you can see. the skulls i made a gold, muddy gold colour just to help them stand out and break up the armour (as was suggested by a few people on these sites...so thanks!) and the base is done. i havent painted the slate....what do you guys think? should i make the lower legs dusty? if so...any tips? i dont wanna ruin the armour!!
the knife i added the orange (cant recall the name) from the foundation set, stippled it on (again stolen!) for a rust look and added an extreme white highlight to the edges of the green trim.

as ever thanks so much for your help

phill

very cool
may i suggest a demon prince
http://helldorado.fr/factions/les-demons/grand-damne-de-la-colere/index.php

My Wife thought you rolled the rhino in green "Floam"
LOL

Thanks for coming back. what did you do there, add some washes? Lookin good!

Nurgle got you too? Good to see this thread up and running again.

cool stuff!

KIL KIL KIL wrote:I dig very much the paint scheme.

also, in those pics of your bits, I saw a Zoat! Make the zoat in your nurgle army! please!

use them as bikers...you know it makes sense....

good work so far. i heartily approve

ok time for some pics to prove i have been painting!

first up though meet my new vindicator. it was suggested to me that a possessed rhino was pointless, but a possessed vindi was a great idea....so i cut open the front and using a sawn plastic leg from a shelf rack made a big gun!
as ever C&C welcome (still some GS touches needed at edges etc but not much)




ok here is the rhino, i really like the way the rot is working out, just brown wash to shade then purple. no highlight as yet. the armour with be 'streaky' white like the marines. im still looking for a good IG paint scheme for cadians please a simple and quick one, thanks

ok now some marines. they are all done (the bloated bellies need the streaky white effect but thats it for these guys) but not based yet. the colours on the base i use as an undercoat to the gravel, water effect that ill do when they are all painted. i have another ten about 90% done. after they are finished ill do the rhino....as a treat!

ok:










they wont win any awards but i think they are an ok table top standard..........right?

thanks for all your help and support :bum:

phill

yeah,
looking good phil.
the possessed tank is much better as a vindicator.
I'm a big fan of the red bolt guns, It looks good and is a nice contrast.

Panic.

slaneenesh nurgle marine 0.o first time seeing purple DG hehe

I like the repositioned beaky marine helmet with breather the most.

thanks guys

phill

It all looks really good. I would paint the IG in the standard codex scheme, so as to make them easily identifiable.
I'm going to have to try your rotting flesh sculpting technique, it looks awesome!

its real eay, you slap on the GS making sure to 'think' about where it would congeal, i.e. be thicker, deeper. then once you have done that you stic the sculpting tool in and pull outwards in all four directions i.e. up, down, left, right and the rest takes care of itself. thats it.

Your green stuff ability is top notch. Nice work. I think you overdid the deamon rhino, and that happens to be what I like about it. Almost impossible to go overboard on nurgle. Keep it up. More pics!!!!! Love to see some painted as well.

That vindicator looks sick. I really wasn't sold at first on the Rhino but the paint on it pulls the texture together and looks more methodical. Kudos!

Man, that streaked armor looks great! How'd you do it? Alot of thin lines?

Really really cool! I also cannot wait to see some more paint. Great texturing!

I'd love to do some 'just turned to the nurgle-side' DG, but cannot get that streaky white thing going.

hey guys and thanks for your comments.
the 'steaky white' is actually pretty easy to do:

spray white undercoat.

black wash (concentrate in recesses) brown and green wash the whole thing.

then water down some skull white. you want to be able to see through the white to the washes. paint in thin lines with a fine brush. (this is not as hard or time consuming as you might think) the white dries super fast and you go over it as much or as little as you want. thats it.

phill

ok update (i know so soon! wow!)
so i have had the worst 48 hours and im feeling all crappy and sorry for myself so to cheer myself up i took some pics of my latest work to post on here. i know, thats pretty sad but hell, i like it. so:
my first icon!










now this last guy is my absolute favourite, i really am proud of how this guy came out...so be nice :bum: ...please?



also what do you guys think of the rust im putting on the guns now, a few people suggested it was he wayto go.....should i stick with it?
thanks

rhino update:
i promsed myself that once i had finished the second ten marines (see above) i would paint this rhino....so here is how im going so far....
overall:

top:

closer on the IG:

im using the scheme Tapey gave me (thanks dude! saved me ages of trying out stuff) but I'm wondering if the legs are too orange? they seem to clash with the rest....but i cant decide on the best 'highlight' colour to pull everything together.....bleach bone? some kinda pale flesh colour.....help!

you guys have seen the colour scheme for my army now so i could you advise me on this:
what colour should i do my daemons? matching/contrasting? traditional green? white? red even? light or dark shades etc.....im hoping some of you artists will be able to help me out here as im stumped D:
close up nurgling:

close up daemon thing in rot....er...swimming/emerging:

once i have an idea of how to paint them i can crack on with these two above

you may also notice i took of the havoc launcher after some gaming advice...i wanna put some kinda pole/icon thing....but make one as i have used all the GW icon bits elsewhere....would it be too much going on? any ideas for something simple?
as ever thanks SO much for all your help, patience and advice

Ueah, I think that the pants kind of clash with the tank. I think that all the stuff came out great though.

thanks for that mcfly.....no other responses? :(

this is all looking great, just started my own converted plague marines, and those tanks are awesome. gave me some ideas. Thanks a lot

I think your marines look great, but I still can't get myself to like your vehicles...its all the purple.

Painted with more white and greens the tanks would match the army I think better, but of course you're the artist.

Also, as Mcfly said, the pants on the guardsmen really, really don't go well with the tank.

Hope to see more though, you are a good inspiration to my aspiring Death Guard.

wow

Yours is a sick and demented mind... keep it up! Loving the air hoses, can almost hear the creepy wheezing... tempted to try out something similar.

ok so i am almost there!
i have decided to go with the traditional green look (im looking around now for a good recipe for it) for the daemons (PB etc) and once i have that it wont take long to paint the two on the tank. that will leave the IG faces and skin and finishing off the stripey white armour. then any touch ups etc needed.

i have really tried hard to paint the tank properly. like the IG uniforms. which is my way of saying i cant do better than this! :



stripey white and rust (taking Mabs advice-thanks!):


this is the first model i tried to work out before i started. for those that dont know the concept was that the tank (or crew) was gifted with 'extra armour' in the form of a living 'Rot' and in order to keep it alive you had to feed it with the bodies (alive or dead) of defeated enemy soldiers...like a performance related gift....i think this is a very cool and nurgle like idea.

however i have learned that making a good concept into a good model is a little harder than it looks. i like this tank a lot dont get me wrong, but i think if i was to do it over i would have a lot less 'Rot' and more stripey white armour to give the model a more balanced look.
i have 3 other tanks all of which i want to have a similar story or theme so any advice about what you think has or has not worked here would help me out with them. i have NO intention to change this tank though!

thanks as ever

phill

The tank looks great. After they were pointed out on the first page, they now jump out a little at me, but not enough to spoil it for me.

Awesome work, the staining on the white I really like, and great GS work Hope you bought it cheap, as that must have used a lot of it!

Great work. I love how it looks likes the decay of the tank is eating the IG.

wow...

ok so i have three things to update you with the first is still WIP and i need some C&C at this stage.
my converted lord/termy guy




also i forgot to show this angle on this guy...he has an eyeball on his shoulder....you see:



oh yes and one other small thing i have done....

FINISHED MY TANK! WOOHOO :tophat:







so the 'eye' that i have replaced the havoc with is meant to be a 'scope' for the crew....looking the same way as the bolter......clever that innitt lol.

i cant thank you guys enough for your help.
(and Tapey, Mabs & Squig for some colour hints etc)

phill

I gotta laugh everytime I see those Guardsmen stuck to the tank.
Anyway love the paintjob.
Although the terminator lord's pose is somewhat static.

Still:

Job'z a good 'un

phillpowell wrote:so here we have one with paint! its the one i did based on a free beserker i got in a WD some eons ago. i dont like it much so im using it as a test piece. i post it unfinished just to prove i am painting now!
also a pile on the back packs ill paint seperately before putting on the marines.
along with some random pics of all the old models im stripping. some very old (and very cool) metal SM etc.
the four individual chaos marines with heavy weapons.....i did try and think of a way to make them fit in my army but i cant really. so i dont know quite what to do with them. seems a shame to put them back in a box. classics like these need to be loved. painted. and played with.
ah and the soap dish....of all the old plastic beaky marines from my youth....(box sets of 30 marines!...so cheap compared to today) these are the only ones that stripped well enough to re paint. just goes to show. THIN YOUR PAINT! lol

now....do i use these old ones in this army....or with the smurfs....hmm
phill

Well if you get tired of all this rt stuff I would gladly take them off your hands.
I could never win any feebay auctions for those fungus legged chaos marines.

yeah,
the tank looks sweet!
your planning a smurf army?

Panic...

your minis look GREAT
QUESTION: how exactly do you do your rusting? Thats pretty much exactly how I want to rust my Orks bits and I wasnt sure how the hell to di it. Your rusting looks like gobs of rust(which I like) SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW U DID IT!!!!!!!

gross does anyone have bleach for the nurgle marines.
the look very gross(good)

The tank looks a lot better now. I also really like the eyes on stuff, it looks cool.

work is amazing as allways
glad to see some updates

Super cool!! Love it. That tank is just amazing. It looks like my guard have been sucked into it. Great greenstuff work and suburb painting as well. Keep it up and please post more as them come!!!

phillpowell wrote:

^ This guy makes me think of:

phillpowell wrote:

At this angle, he looks like he's picking a wedgie.



Ghidorah

oh btw im stealing the tank idea!

KingCracker wrote:your minis look GREAT
QUESTION: how exactly do you do your rusting? Thats pretty much exactly how I want to rust my Orks bits and I wasnt sure how the hell to di it. Your rusting looks like gobs of rust(which I like) SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW U DID IT!!!!!!!

painted everything black, then overbrushed bolt gun. black and brown heavy washes. stippled on the orange from the foundation set. another brown wash. then a stippled the orange again but only in a few places to get lighter spots. then (and this is a tip i got) paint (don't drybrush!) on some bolt gun in places that will have wear and tear so the rust would have 'rubbed' off....thats it.

Panic: i have an old..ish...smurf army already with some old RT metal marines etc.

thanks for your help and support

phill

there must be a fortune worth of green stuff on there nice work!!!

Thats one impressive tank you got there

ok so i was on a role, finished my tank (which im so pleased about...still!) and thought just a quick paint, wash and drybrush jobby and i should have my HQ done and i can play a game...woohoo!
then it was pointed out.....and quite rightly....that my lord dude just didnt look right. which would have spoiled all the effort i have put into everything else.... so i bit the bullet and attacked it with sharp stuff.
what do you think of my new direction?



i will be adding some smaller tentacles that will travel further out over the model....
the tentacles will be purple like the rot.....C&C please.

thanks

phill

Tentacles definately help. I think it'll either get better with the small ones, or worse, but it needs something!

Great job on everything! I can't believe this is your second army!

I have been wanting to comment on the nurgle blob for awhile, but i dont want to be misunderstood as criticizing D:

It looks like Mr Burn's Omni Net from Simpsons ><

luna...i dont follow sorry

phillpowell wrote:luna...i dont follow sorry

I meant, the purple thing wrapping the IG victims reminds me of these.

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! i see lol.
hehehehehe
thanks
phill

was thinking about adding bigger tentacles coming from his back over his shoulders, with suckers on the underside.....thoughts?

I kind of figured thats how you did it. I was close (didnt think of the washes tho) That rust is simply awesome. Like I said before Im planning out how to paint my Orks and the main stay is the machinery/metal/weapons have to be RUSTED lol. Thanks for the tip

Never seen nurgle's rot done quite so... purple... I likes! Stands out against the (awesomely) retained pre-heresy armor color quite well.

You should so do a nurgling peeking out from his mass of intestines!

so i have some things to update you all with....but im waiting on water effects to dry for part two. so here is part one, a tutorial on how i paint my guys. i still cant believe peolpe have asked me lol.

im not sure i picked the best guy to show you on but there you are.

first up spray white and touch up with skull white paint, then (using the foundation paint set, i water them down a little to help the paint flow) paint all the metal areas orange, armour trim green and bolters red. with the red and orange im not very neat, with such heavy washes you cover up any wavey paint lines or missed bits etc and finally i paint the eyes shining gold:
the first pic didnt upload fully (dunno why) but you can see all you need to



now we come to the washes all of which are pretty heavy. first up wash with black aiming for the deepest, darkest parts of the model AND all the coloured areas:


then brown covering the whole model:


then green only covering the armour and trim:



now we start on the stripey white. i have a pot of skull white that i have added a lot of water too. you want it so that you can see the colour coming through the paint after one coat. then it is simply painting little lines on the armour. i find that going section by section works best, going over the armour with one, two or three passes to get the effect i want. basically its up to you and gets pretty obvious as you go. a good tip is to leave little 'drip' marks under things like studs by simply painting white around the 'drip'. it looks cool. here are two half wayshots:


and two finished:



next up go over the green armour trim with the foundation green to cover up any mistakes with the stripey white and then catachan green in the corners or peaks as a highlight colour. i like this as its subtle and i want them looking dirty rather than shiney...so a 'dull' highlight works best i think.
now using the foundation orange again i go over the metal (washed orange) parts but this time i use a crappy brush and 'stipple' bright orange radomly. i find this looks pretty good and adds to the rust effect nicely. on hoses etc be careful not to over do it. then you can (i dont always, again im after dull and dirty so just the washes look great) use the foundation red to highlight the bolter:


once thats done the last thing is to paint on (NOT drybrush) some boltgun metal over the orange. this tip was given to me by Mabs and is a fab, fab tip. think about what bits of the metal will be used the most and therefore have the rust worn off showing the bare metal underneath....like knife blades and where your marine will be holding his bolter..etc etc and then add some in random places so you dont have too uniform a look:
the finished guy:



all he needs now is his back pack which is painted the same way and he is done.
oh the base i paint randomly in tin bitz and camo green. then paint pva over the base, leaving some parts bare, and use the little slate basing material from GW. when thats dry mix water effects (from GW) with green wash and dollop it on in the pools you have made by leaving bits of the base bare and then over the slate where ever you feel like. you will need two coats of this to get the effect you want. (note, this guy has only had one coat of the water effects so far, the second makes it look much better) once thats done paint the base trim foundation green.
once the whole model is completed (backpack added etc) i spray it in mat puity seal and then go over the water effects with a gloss hard coat.

done.

phew.

I must hate you for such a fine job, but I can't because its Nurgly stuff. Awesome job!

Ha! thanks

Hello all,

So i present my first finished PM's:

as you may know by now the guy on the left....he is my Favourite!...which means (i fear) i shall roll lots of (Gets Hot!) ones.

more of my Favourite guy (oh and THANK YOU squiggy, you were SO right about the old back pack for his model. It works perfectly )



more guys:







My thanks guys, you have all been a great inspiration

Phill

yeah,
looking good.
how about a army photo of everything that's painted so far?

Panic...

Hey Phill admire the great work you have done to these pms!

I was hoping on starting a Death Guard army and was wounding what you used for the rebreather tubes and the plague chimney things on your conversations?

wolfeman: its guitar string and plasicard tubing
Panic: ok ill try to remember



ok 12 more PM's done woohoo!!






oh and i forgot....my tank! (with added water effects and gloss varnish around the two lil daemons):





phill

so here are some cool models i have purchased.
some with SCALE shots!!!!!

OLD! termies from Ebay:

Yes I know, it seems I have gone from the slowest painter in this forum to becoming a whirwind of painting frenzy!!

Another update for you all.

First up my WIP chaos lord that I have had nothing but trouble with. I decided to use the fact that he looks so static (like a tree) and give him lots of tentacles (around the legs especially) to 'anchor' him to his base. The trouble is you can only do a few at a time as wet GS sticks to wet GS which is tricky when you are trying to fit little tube shapes without them loosing the tube shape! Anyway here you go:


I am spending much more time on this guy than i really want to, so however this new idea works out....is the way he is going to look

Also some of my termies:


Six in total (to go with the lord)...next step is stripey white

Finally some more work on T.E.D.




thanks

Phill

Soap for the xenos of grossness.
They very nurgly. Do you have any deamon?

Wow!

Nice work!

kharndude wrote:Soap for the xenos of grossness.
They very nurgly. Do you have any deamon?

I have 7 PB's (old and new) and the FW GUO model but thats it so far. The PB's are ready to piant the GUO is still in its box.....I confess to being scared of ruining it!

Ok, update time. I took a couple of days off from painting as i was getting 'stripey white blindness' which is a new illness i have created (praise be to papa)!

Anyway i felt the urge return so i am back painting. Some WIP progress shots of 3 of my termies. Three more to do stripey white on...








Since taking these pics i am almost done with the stripey white on the last three, then its just touch ups etc. so they are almost done! will update soon.

Sadly i have had to start over with the daemon skin on TED. my first attempted look AWFUL. sigh. Still, I am gonna get that done soon too.

thanks as ever

phill

Looking really nice!
If you want any additional ideas/tips visit my thread "Attention all Nurgle Followers"

What a great BLOG! (should be in the P&M blogs for people to see )

My hat is off to you for achieving a unique, strong and in chacater take on a great and popular subject take. Fantastic army in the making!!

Would it be ok, if the mods moved this to the P&M blogs forum??

er, sure i have no problem with that.

this was my first post in here and one of my first ever posts on any forum so i confess i didnt understand at the time what the P&M forum was for!

I just wanted to get posting quickly and this seemed like the right place.
so sure, feel free to move it

And thank you for your kind words . I am a firm believer in making constructive crit's AND encouraging comments. It helps me pain fasta

phill

Nice work! I'm a big fan of the paint scheme.

I love the Helldorado minis, they have the potential to be very Nurlgly. Are you going to use them as "counts as" lesser demons?

You are too powerful. *spontaneous combustion*

DebonaireToast wrote:Nice work! I'm a big fan of the paint scheme.

I love the Helldorado minis, they have the potential to be very Nurlgly. Are you going to use them as "counts as" lesser demons?

Don't know exactly. I have a few tanks (rhino, pred and LR) that I may want possessed so they might get stuck on top of them somehow or yes i will use them as daemons or spawn....or for parts in a DP.
You see I much prefer the modelling to the painting. MUCH prefer. So I have to be really strict with myself and finish painting what I have done already or I will just keep building stuff hehehehe. And my local GW has a new rule, if it isnt fully painted you cant use it. :(.

On that note a little update for you:

So I had 6 pics of 6 almost painted termies, but after i had deleted all the pics from my camera (it was very full) I found that two of them hadn't uploaded right.

So

I have 4 pics of termies to show off for the last time as WIP. Next time you see them they will be all finished and based, yay!






All thats left to do is a couple of them need the green trim highlighted and two faces to paint. ( I hate that, can't paint skin. helmets only from now on!) Oh and of course now the bases have had their base coat I just need to add the slate and water effect for a finished job.

cool.

I hope to finish them and TED this weekend. Unless i get TED's skin wrong again in which case I'll start the second to last batch of PM's.

Great stuff! I love the color scheme on the plaguemarines, and the step-by-step tutorial is very helpful-- particularly since some of the technique is unfamiliar.

My favorite models are the marines themselves, which have a nice sinister feel.

Ok then here are the finished terminators.

I did 3 thick coats of the water effects on the bases with these guys and used some larger pieces of slate. I decided to add more interesting things only to the bases of special characters etc. We death guard aren't into showing off much you see.

I like the way these bases worked out actually, it looks as though the wieght of them is making them sink a little into the slime that was once the plant life of the planet....before we brought our plague!

ok enough waffle, pics!













and here is a quick shot of all my painted models:


thanks as ever for your help and support guys

*Takes a mic and interviews Phill:

"Hi! congrats on the deathguards , what have you learn / progressed from this project, and whats next on the horizon?"

yeah,
looks good, I'm really digging the bases.
Might copy that in my slugs project...

PAnic...

"hi, yes thanks Lunahound a great question. The first and by far the biggest thing i have learnt is to model up and then paint one unit at a time. I am convinced if i had done it that way instead of modelling everything at once before starting to paint them all, not only would i have painted everything by now i would have at least two or three extra units all modelled and painted too. The second thing i learnt is to write down the order you paint the models and what colours. by doing that i got my painting time cut in half, as you will see in the tutorial its pretty simple really.....well, it is now!
And next up, i have a biker lord on bike conversion and 10 bikes planned, another rhino, predator, LR some space Zoats to act as another unit of bikers, some plague bearers a FW dread, Sorcerer and GUO and lots, lots more marines. but before i start doing those i have two more batches of marines to paint and a FW dread.
Phew"

on the painting table now are 4 plasma guns, 2 icons and 2 champs:


also on the go is:



with next in line to be 7 more PM's and a dread:


also i bought:


i like this guy but not his plasma pistol so i will have to chop that off:



May i pressent to you all T.E.D. my possessed vindicator:










And an updated army shot, with the guys split into their squads..

Wow...nice great looking army (know it's been said before but..) think I might adapt your paint technique for my albino ork warboss ( stealing an idea from another thread ) cheers for the tips.

no worries Mu

*Vomits*
(it's Nurgle, so that's a good thing )

I like TED's skin a lot. Nice job on that...

Why do I get the feeling that he's overcompensating for something, though. LOL


Good stuff.


Eric

hehehe me? overcompensating!!

he is called ted cos a friend of mine called it "The Erection of Death" lol

thanks for the comments

Really fantastic conversions, but to be honest I prefer them during the wash stages. I think they look great!

I'm not too keen on the final white, it seems too clean? Will you be weathering and dirtying the white at all?

Hi Gundam-Mecha. I do see your point about the white being too clean for nurgle. the basic idea for my army was that they represent the Death Guard the day after they turned to nurgle. So the unpainted Ceramite (which is white) has yet to be covered in the green moss/rot/puss/mess of nurgle but is already 'on its way'.
Anyway thats the basic idea.


OK here we go some pics for you, all still very WIP

First up the second to last batch of PM's to paint:



I choose to paint the helmet of the guy on the left rusted metal simply becasue I thought it would look cool, an old dive suit vibe, despite my own rule to have all the armour painted white. It does kinda look like he has simply bolted on a big heavy metal helmet to his armour.....so I think its allowed


Two shots of these guys, one with the icon and one up close:



This guy has my first ever effort at painting a rotten nurgle fabric, I think its worked ok...but the paint needed to be thinner and just slightly less heavy. Another lesson learnt


And now we come to my first Dreadnought. I think its working out pretty well actually (I got really nervous about painting it!) all the stripey white is done with just the details, touch ups etc to do now. What do you all think?





Lastly I left these out, I bought them with my last order:



Couple of questions for you all,

1) If I equip a PM with a bolter and power weapon (like an Asp Champ) would you have a problem with me using him as a plain old PM and NOT an Asp Champ? This way I have a bit of flexibility with my squads.

2) When you paint a dead marine helmet on the base of your chaos lord how do you do the eye lenses? If i paint the red lenses with the normal highlights etc it will look like the marine is alive right? So id would be better to shade the red and add no highlights at all for a more 'dead' look....do you agree, what do you all do?

Thanks so much for your help and support

yeah,
That Dread looks Awesome!

Panic...

phillpowell wrote:Hi Gundam-Mecha. I do see your point about the white being too clean for nurgle. the basic idea for my army was that they represent the Death Guard the day after they turned to nurgle. So the unpainted Ceramite (which is white) has yet to be covered in the green moss/rot/puss/mess of nurgle but is already 'on its way'.
Anyway thats the basic idea.

The whole pre-heresy scheme is cool, but perhaps some kind of light staining to tone down the white? Right now its very strong. You could stain it with an oil wash, a little bit of very diluted thinned burnt umber would really bring some warmth to the colours and blend them in a bit maybe? Or you could just use a very thinned wash of citadel colour or citadel wash? Griphonne sepia maybe? I think even some stain effects done in the corners over the white would help, like drips or splatter stains?

I understand your aim with the project and the background reasons, but as with the above photo the first image of them green is just beautiful, really nice... and then they go white. It's just my personal opinion but for me I really love your first stage more.

phillpowell wrote:2) When you paint a dead marine helmet on the base of your chaos lord how do you do the eye lenses? If i paint the red lenses with the normal highlights etc it will look like the marine is alive right? So id would be better to shade the red and add no highlights at all for a more 'dead' look....do you agree, what do you all do?

Thanks so much for your help and support

I'd say its really up to you. You could argue that lenses in a power helmet are not bright red because they are "alive" just becuase thats the colour of the lense. Much like bright lenses on sunglasses they don't change colour when you take them off and put them on a table say. Light wouldn't really come through the lense to make them bright as the marines head is directly behind. Auto senses could illuminate them a little but if you look at the example of H.U.D displays on modern aircraft and armour thats unlikely.

You could go the route of dulled dark red with some strong sharp highlights where the light catches the surface maybe? I think though that the fact it's a severed head would make it pretty clear that the Marine was far from alive .

amazing color-scheme and paintjob

well Gundam-Mecha, I guess the only thing to do is try it your way and see what i think of it. so i shall give one of my boys a light wash and the decide whether to stick or twist

thanks for taking the time to post

phill

A little update for you, the PM's are painted up, all that is left to do is the back packs and some work on the bases:




I really like the way the 'diver' came out, and I have a cool back pack that will give him a rusted metal halo!


This is what I never get right, I had finished the stripey white and all I had left to do was touch up the messy bits, highlight the green finish the rust etc etc. So why is it that takes 5 times longer than I think it will? I always think I'm just about done once the white goes on when in fact I am only about two thirds!

Also I have finished painting the dread! these pics show the base wet with water effects which is why it looks funny. The only thing left to do is another coat or two of that and then green around the edge of the base!



Unfortunantly at this point things went a little wrong. I had to move all my stuff (painting table, bitz etc etc) because I have some curtains to hang at the window I paint next to. I didnt want to take a risk with my finished models so I moved them into the kitchen to keep them safe. I dropped the dreadnought just as I was entering the kitchen and it landed on the tiled floor and not the soft thick carpet. I know have a dreadnought in 4 bits and with some damage to the paint.

I am, GUTTED!

PS. Gundam-Mecha i have tried it out and decided i prefer to stick with what i am doing, but thanks for the thought

ok the good news is all the PM's are now finished and i am just waiting for the basing materials to dry etc etc.

Th dread i managed to fix up as good as new i think and again i am just waiting for the base to dry so i should have an update on wednesday

only 7 more to go before i can build something new!

Love the combo of old and new.

ok update time, some finished models!!!!







and these are the last two, the guy on the left is one of my all time favourites, i really like the big rusted iron helmet and the halo on the back pack works really well i think:



my first Dreadnought





and a close up of his base:

something I have learnt is the water effects stuff is a bit delicate. I put just a tad too much on in one go and it hasn't dried rock hard as it should but is still hard enough to be ok.
The good news though is once you have mixed a batch of the water effects up, as long as you cover it well enough it doesnt set for days and you can still use it . in fact it gets slowly thicker so you have a bit more control over how you use it! Sweet

anyway thoughts are as ever welcome

phill

Amazing job, great thread.

Fantastic!

thanks SsevenN!

ok so FINALLY my foam from 'Battle Foam' arrived! it only took 6 weeks (and not the 5 days they said was likely) anyway.

firstly a little warning to anyone from the UK ( i dont know about any other countries). I got hit by a VAT charge on them as they came through Custums, which sucks, but what sucks even more is that Parcel-Force then charged me extra because they had to process the Customs charge. I got a bill of £25 in the post or they would send my foam back to the states :(. Thats on top of the delivery charge from Battle Foam.

Anyway:




The other trouble is not all my boys fit inside the foam i bought for them, so this tray is meant for bikes but currently has some marines in it:


and finally:

I was a bit sad to see that my rhino's wouldnt fit in the tray 'cos they have the dozer blades on them :(

oh yes and a:

to carry them all in!
I think I will in future by the foam from Sabol simply 'cos its too damn expensive to have foam shipped from the USA, even if its better. And the foam is good, and the "Death Guard" wording is cool

can we see a close up of the vindicator

hey typhus there are closeups of all my models in this thread.

here is a simple tutorial showing you how I do the bases for my PM's and my thinking behind it:
Ok so my basic idea was KEEP IT SIMPLE! Not being great at this sort of thing I didn't want to spend so long painting my boy's only to ruin the look with a poor base. So I spent some time thinking about what to do and came up with the idea of a planet struck by bio-virus bombs from orbit before my boys invaded in force. So no plants or grass etc, instead a green 'goo' meant to represent whats left of the rich flora and fauna of a once beautiful planet. So grey slate/rubble and 'goo' it was
some pics:
er.....a base (normally this would be white from the spray under coat I give my models):

Then I needed some base colours and I just liked the way the tin bitz and camo green work as a pair. Both are nurgly and kinda alien worldly. I apply them ramdomly:

Next up some PVA glue leaving bits of the base bare to act as 'pools' for the 'goo', again this is random:

Dip the base in the slate:

And shake off the excess:

Let this dry completely (I just leave it overnight) and then mix up some GW Water Effects (W.E.) with Thraka Green wash (the greener you want it the more you add):

And apply it to the base covering the bare area totally and over some/all/or none of the slate:

When its dry it looks like this:

A coat of Orkhide green from the foundation paint range is added to the rim (to tie in with the armour trim of my boy's) and a second, now dry, coat of the W.E:

Then a spray of Puity seal (I spray all my models with this stuff):

and lastly a coat of gloss 'Ard Coat is painted on only over the W.E.:

which dries leaving the slime looking wet:

Simple and effective for rank and file troops:

For bigger models like terminators I did some larger pieces of slate and at least two coats on W.E. sometimes three:

And for my dreadnought base I painted it to match the colour of the slate on my other models bases and then just added a few coats of the W.E again:

In the future when I get some HQ and want to add some more detail I will likely add some Space Marine helmets or bigger, more interesting items of masonary.

Do you just super glue them onto the base?

Im confused to how they stick on the uneven surface D:
( mine sometimes doesnt even stay on flat ones!)

yeah,
phil the bases look good!
I've been using Wet Effects my slugs skin... I've been messing about with Wet effects and mixing it with gloss varnish to varing degrees of success and failure, I have some problems with Air bubbles.
I'm going to try mixing in green and brown washs like you have...

Panic...

LunaHound: I glue my PM's to the base BEFORE I work on the base. I did this base on its own so you could see it clearer in the tutorial.

Panic: I have never mixed W.E. with gloss varnish....what are you hoping to get out of mixing them? As for adding washes to the W.E. its very east AND if you draw the end of your brush through the mix in a figure of 8 style you can achieve a 'marble' effect which I hope to use on some models in the future.

ok so an update for you.
I have made a decision about my terminator lord after a lot of time and effort spent working on him I did this:

I kept the gun 'cos its a cool gun and the base 'cos its a big base and I am sure it will come in handy. The rest is in the bin. Bottom line is I hated it. I couldnt paint it to anything like a good look and I was so sick of it looking at me with those accusing eyes!
I feel much, much better now.
My last batch of PM's is coming along nicely with really only the water effects taking so long to dry holding them up now. This last unit has been a REAL slog. I think knowing that these are the last ones to paint before I can make something cool again has really made the painting a hard job rather than a fun task:

I need a HQ for my army and the fastest way to get one was to put together a FW model rather than building my own so I did this:

I cannot tell you how god it felt to be putting something together, it was such a relief it made me smile the rest of the day! And I managed to get most of the painting on my PM's done while waiting for glue to dry etc etc.
For the record this is my first ever attempt at a 'scenic' character base!
Anyway thats what I have been up to, soon I shall be creating more fun things!
YAY!

ok, so i managed to finish the last batch of PM's. These guys are the last models I made in my eagerness to make a DG army all those months ago and painting them all has been non stop hard work! Although it was very hard getting these last 7 boys done it was even harder not to rush through them.
OK here they are:




So thats 48 PM's a couple of tanks a dread and some Termies all of them different. Phew!

No more old models waiting for me to paint them....only NEW models waiting for me to build them!

YES

I am so happy right now

As for my sorcerer here he is so far:


This guy is one of the few remaining older PM's I didnt have:

This guy is a Tunnel Dweller:

not sure what I will do with him, I may kit bash him with some other models to make a DP....dunno yet


Right, a sorcerer to paint and some kits to bash

yeah,
awesome stuff/progress dude, we should make plans and get a game sometime soon!
my next block of free days is May 12th - 15th if that's any good for you?

Panic...

Damn thats a shame Panic, due to staff holidays I wont have any free time in may at all :(....although your right we should play a game.....let me know about june dates and i can check up in my work diary...damn shift system

As an aside, i had my first ever game with my boys yesterday, my first game with the new rules too....got myself a draw against some shooty tau! which means thats the first game I havent lost in 15/16 years LOL (not that I have played much since those days hehehehe)

Ok so it has been TOO long since my last update but work has been madness this last few weeks and i have had no time to do any real work. However I do have a tiny update to show you, it is still very WIP though.
My next rhino:





As you can see I am using plasticard (which is really hard to work with!) as extra armour and the predator top section as a mount for a havoc launcher....which looks really cool i think.

started paint:



I have used sand to give my rusted areas some texture. I dont know if you can see but i have used the sand as Runes. i wanted to have rust patches in the shape of some nurgle runes from the old ROC book. so i have the appropriate rune of nurgle and others to represent the extra armour i have on this tank. I think i may make this a theme, runes rock and its a great way (i think) to represent things like Extra Armour without having to model the armour on!!


and finally a couple of very WIP winged DPs for you

The shop bought DP will have the blood thirster wings and a different face.


this fellow is based on the 'tunnel dweller' model with a spawn torso and head. I went for this torso 'cos i really like the way it makes this guy look like a Cobra snake which works real well. I am giving him claws as i think he is too beast like to give him a sword or something similar.....agree?
Also any suggestions on how to base this guy would REALLY be welcome!
final thing to tell you is i have used the back pack with wings from the possessed box as i wanted to have something on him that suggested he was once a Marine.....long...long ago. The wings look a bit small for the model i know....i have a plan...it involves bats.....

And finally to prove i am the most anal person here...:





I sorted out all my plastic 'bitz' into a box, all sorted and easy to find

the debate about what to use to strip METAL models is over:


this stuff is simply AWESOME, removes ALL the paint pretty damn fast. however, use gloves and a metal bucket or can as it dissolves plastic. i mean completely. so dont leave plastic back packs or arms attatched to your metal models as these will selt all over your model.

thanks

phill

I'm loving this army. Loving it!
From a healthy distance, though. Because it looks positively contagious.

Seriously, the old school models work very well with the white/green/slime color scheme, works very well with the conversions, works very well with the basing scheme (which is particularly icky). All well done.

phillpowell wrote:hehehe me? overcompensating!!

he is called ted cos a friend of mine called it "The Erection of Death" lol

thanks for the comments

Meh, I was happy he was called Ted because that is my name.

This post ruined it all

really good
the DP's look awesome

i like them all but i cant imagine the spawn dp can fly with those wings

aha typhus my good man...niether can i....but there is a plan, it involves chains and some undead bats...shhhhh

Actually.. I would remove the wings you have on him all together add some more claws on the other arm as well and say he dosent fly over stuff he tunnels under.. He does look like a gian worm/maggot.

Nicorex....i didnt think of that...

anyway, a little paint update. I have tried out a more complex way to paint vehicle armour let me know your thoughts:




many thanks for all your comments tips etc. it all really does help keep me motivated

phill

finished my rhino:

Those orange streaks look just awesome, giving a whole new concept of nurgle, great stuff mate!

Thanks Gutteridge

I love this. It's so... manky.

I keep thinking I'd love to do a nurgle force, purely for the modelling and painting.

Top job dude!

I remember looking at this on B&C
these are ace



ABH