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Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/09 08:51:59


Post by: redstarone


Pre GS WIP.


Chappy





2 Vet Sgts w/ Bolters and Power Fists






Ok, now that you have seen some of the models for the force, here is the deal. My new log will be a personal project to complete a renegade space marine battle company. There will be a rather large apocalypse battle at one of my local stores and I want to field the battle company data sheet. The prospects of the new space marine codex, drop pods, and a few other things have lured me back to space marines. Now I as you all may know, im a die hard chaos player, so, a rengade chapter it must be.


Now here is my question to you all.

What chapter should my renegade battle company be from? Im open to anything thats not red and it must be a regular codex company. i.e 6 tactical, 2 assault and 2 devestators.


I really do need some help as I simply cant make up my mind. Im drawn to so many cool chapters but since this is a rengade company..


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/09 12:41:14


Post by: ArbitorIan


Why don't you choose one of the Badab War traitor legions?

IIRC, when Lufgt Huron and the Astral Claws rebelled and became the Red Corsairs, they took three other chapters with them - Mantis Warriors, Executioners & Lamenters.

After the war, these three chapters were forgiven and told to go on a crusade, but it's quite possible that elements could have followed the Red Corsairs into the Maelstrom.

So, you'd have a basically loyalist Marine company, but one that looks slightly chaossy....

Badab War - http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/The_Badab_War

Lamenters (yellow) - http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lamenters

Mantis Warriors (green) - http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mantis_Warriors

Executioners (crazy crazy blue) - http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Executioners


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/09 14:49:04


Post by: Smashotron


You should definitely do the Mantis Warriors following ArbitorIan's fluff idea. I would even model some/many/half? your marines with standard SM breastplates and have the aquila scrapped at or gouged off to show their defiance to the Emperor. i.e. Less "rar! chaos marks and mutations!!" and more "hey, you know what emperor? eff you!". That's what I think when I think renegades. Opinions may vary.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/09 20:00:21


Post by: redstarone


Thanks for the ideas guys!

Mantis warriors are out since doghouse has done them to a very high standard. The lamarters look good since they are yellow but the executionars look kick butt with that funky blue.

Anyone else have some ideas? It will be awhile till I paint them anyways as im still in the construction phase.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/09 21:32:54


Post by: BLARGAG!!!


what about the mortifactors?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mortifactors

i think that this is a pretty kool looking scheme


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/09 21:42:18


Post by: redstarone


BLARGAG!!! wrote:what about the mortifactors?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mortifactors

i think that this is a pretty kool looking scheme


EXCELLENT idea blargag!

So I said this on my warseer log, im going to paint 5 of the best ideas as samples then pic out of those. Mortifactors are now on the list with the lamanters. So I need 3 more ideas.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/10 06:51:55


Post by: Eldramesha


I'd say a variant of Word Bearers as they are the original Chaos Chaplain types.

Also perhaps one of the Cursed Founding chapters, maybe Flame Falcons?


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/10 07:57:40


Post by: Aduro


Why not a random mixture of various loyal chapters, representing not a single army going bad, but the faithless few from all of them.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/10 08:05:18


Post by: JohnHwangDD


Ultramarines are a great choice, along with any of the others who claim to never have had anyone turn to Chaos (i.e. Grey Knights or Black Templars). As they're pretty high-and-mighty, so it'd be good to take them down a peg or two.

Otherwise I'd suggest one of the lesser First Founding Chapters, like Imperial Fists.




Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/10 10:07:06


Post by: TheThing


Aduro wrote:Why not a random mixture of various loyal chapters, representing not a single army going bad, but the faithless few from all of them.


This would definitly work, sounds best out of all the ideas i see here no offence to the other people ofcourse, all chapters would look great, just think this idea is gd


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/10 10:26:30


Post by: redstarone


Im pretty open to the idea of various chapters as that seems to be a popular idea. The one thing, ho could I tie all the units together? This army will be a literal marine battle company. It will always be played as the data sheet for it as I only lan to play it at select apocalypse games.

Maybe black helmets? or an arm/shoulder a certian color?



Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/10 12:08:45


Post by: TheThing


redstarone wrote:Im pretty open to the idea of various chapters as that seems to be a popular idea. The one thing, ho could I tie all the units together? This army will be a literal marine battle company. It will always be played as the data sheet for it as I only lan to play it at select apocalypse games.

Maybe black helmets? or an arm/shoulder a certian color?



Iwould paint the bodies as different chapters and then like you said the arms a different color, preferably a balck color for some reason, think it probably is because black goes with almost all colors. unlike green, i think this would be hard to mix with other colors, either way on a black arm also maybe you should make a certain insignia for the renegade army chapter thing. that they all have as an icon. good luck with whatever you choose you seem like a decent operson so most the things you will choose will probably look good


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/10 15:53:17


Post by: Eisenhorn


Go the Deathwatch Route have the left pad all unified
and the right the original chapter they came from defaced.

You could do Soul Drinkers too.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/10 19:39:11


Post by: Mekboy


It said in some white dwarf that each chaos warband usually had some sort of mark, like a red sholderpad or black helmet stripe, and each warrior, no matter where they came from before, would wear that mark.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/11 01:25:01


Post by: Eldramesha


Maybe use greenstuff to give them all bionic eye patches.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/11 09:01:35


Post by: redstarone


Great idea for the bionic eyes. I think all vet sgts will have one.

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Back on this again... but I need input on 2 things before I seriously start the log.

First, what color should the shoulder pad trim be on the black arm/pad? Im thinking it should just stay the color of the other pad, i.e. these guys would have a gold trim on the black.

Second, im thinking that each marine before battle has to deface thier chapter badge. Each squad could do it diffrent ways, some scratching part of it off, others using blood to paint over part of it kinda like the corsairs. Now my question is, does this sound good? and if so, im stuck on how to deface these guys. Im leaning toward scratching over "blood" as there is alot of red on purity seals and eyes.

Keep in mind these are WIP and still need weathering and chipped paint. I see the whole chipped paint thing as perfect to tie in the whole army as well as the black helmets and right arm/pad.






Oh, the company is going to be a mixed force with each squad being a diffrent chapter.
Current standing:

Tactical Squads
Ultramarines (blue)
Raptor Legion (camoish green)
Lamenters (yellow)
Soul Drinkers (purple)(chaos recruits, not original chapter)
Space Sharks (grey)
Need idea

Assault Squads
Mortifactors (bone and black)
Howling Griffons (red and yellow quartered)

Devestator Squads
Mentor Legion (dark geen and white)
Silver Skulls (silver)



Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/11 19:14:21


Post by: redstarone


Im going to go with the basic red chaos star over the chapter badge.

Simple and to the point.

Anyone have any ideas for the chaos symbol that will go on the left shoulder pad? Im leaning towards space in general. You know, black background as it is now with a ton of tiny stars and such. To random? or just right? let me know!


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/13 04:58:45


Post by: redstarone


Real life has been kicking my rear end all over the place... Literally. Ive just not finished all my work and errands for the day and its 11pm..

Anyhoo.. I notice I never updated the log here with the command stuff. So its on top of the most recent update. Right below this.

As for whos in command...
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Claws_of_Lorek

Im going to paint the black shoulder pad in the claws of lorek style. Just the reversed astral claw scheme. The command squad will be the select few marines that have attained a higher rank within the claws organazation, hence, will have the normal claws paint scheme except the right shoulder pad will still show the original chapter and will be super defaced. possibly hanging skin, chains with fingers, that sort of stuff. I want the command squad to really stand out since there will already be 100 marines blurring it all together.

The commander of the company wont be Lorek but I do have a plan for him in the future. All im gonna say is, "lords of chaos" data sheet, counts as Abby.
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Still WIP but the bases are started, there wil be grass and such inbetween the cracks of tile. Models still need final details and the weathering is only half done, just chipped paint right now. Oh and backpacks need a wash or 2.




Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/13 06:47:54


Post by: Eldramesha


I like the transitions and the exposed ceramite.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/13 08:06:00


Post by: redstarone


Eldramesha wrote:I like the transitions and the exposed ceramite.


Thanks


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/13 14:20:50


Post by: redstarone


Anyone know how to sue alcohol based weathering kits?


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/13 16:16:25


Post by: TheThing


no XD but the thing you chose wth the shoulder pads, i think you should paint the ma mix of gold and silver so yeah it becomes a light gold color, looks really really good on black


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/13 16:18:13


Post by: TheThing


btw the models looks realyl cool


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/13 20:33:23


Post by: redstarone


Thanks thething for the kind words! I considered blending the gold so its closer to the silver but since the other chapters will have a completly diffrent color trim on each shoulder pad, I decided against it. But since you recommend it,ill try it out



Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/14 03:22:06


Post by: TheThing


hahaha do what you want man the models are yours and choose what you think looks nicest


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/14 08:51:27


Post by: wash-away


JohnHwangDD wrote:Ultramarines are a great choice, along with any of the others who claim to never have had anyone turn to Chaos (i.e. Grey Knights or Black Templars). As they're pretty high-and-mighty, so it'd be good to take them down a peg or two.

Otherwise I'd suggest one of the lesser First Founding Chapters, like Imperial Fists.




they make their only psyker go after the enemy hq to get slaughtered every chance they get.

that would be cool, an emperers champion that lived and brought his 'brothers' to the truth of the emperor.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/19 09:22:37


Post by: redstarone


wash-away wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:Ultramarines are a great choice, along with any of the others who claim to never have had anyone turn to Chaos (i.e. Grey Knights or Black Templars). As they're pretty high-and-mighty, so it'd be good to take them down a peg or two.

Otherwise I'd suggest one of the lesser First Founding Chapters, like Imperial Fists.




they make their only psyker go after the enemy hq to get slaughtered every chance they get.

that would be cool, an emperers champion that lived and brought his 'brothers' to the truth of the emperor.


I plan to have the company champion as a fallen black templar. The only on templar in the company too so he has to be tough.

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I put this in the log on warseer but forgot to put it here, so here it is:
Goals:
All plastic body army
Minimal conversions
Minimal GS on certain models only.
Average table top quality paint job.
Fluffy
Most of all - Completed by November 1st

Ok so the goals are pretty straight foward. It shouldnt be hard to accomplish the all plastic body army as its a ton of marines. There will be the odd metal bitz but thats just so each marine is diffrent, which is gonna get hard with the 112 marines there will be in the end. I want to keep all the conversions easy and straight foward, I want to be able to assemble at least 5 guys a night. Same minimal work with the GS since again, I wont have time to spend on getting fancy. Once again, same reason for the paint job. Im not trying to win any awards at the event, I just want a fully painted force to stomp some loyalist scum.

Now fluffy, thats kinda hard to explain. Basically I see each squad as a perfect picture image of thier parent chapters traits. Example of the ultra marines having a flamer and missle launcher along with the vet sgt "posing". Also, it will be a normal battle company using the battle company datasheet for apocalypse. 6 tactical squads, 2 assault and 2 devestator with a 10 man command squad, commander and chappy for good measure. So far paint jobs are as follows:

Command Squad
Claws of Lorek Recruits along with real members and 1 other chapter marine. (this will make more sense when you see the squad completed)

Tactical Squads
Ultramarines
Lamenters
Raptors (probably the old school paint scheme, not the olive green and gills)
Soul Drinkers
Space Sharks
(still undecided, open to ideas)
Assault
Howling Griffons (maybe something else, im open to ideas)
Mortifactors

Devestator
Mentor Legion
Silver Skulls

Some random Fluff. Note im no author and I have horrible grammer, if you havent already noticed. Oh and I dont spell check. yes I know its easy but eh.

Homeworld:
Jadajean along with a large fleet of strike cruisers and 3 battle barges.

Recruitment:
The southern continent is used to train new recruits from other chapters as well as recruit new claws of lorek using thier own geneseed.

The Claws of Lorek have a very interesting way of judging those who are worthy to join thier renegade chapter. One of the biggest resources the Claws look for are slaves, strong and battle hardened ones. This valuable resource is not for sacrafice, or some bizarre reason, but simply used as enemy stock. On the Claws of Lorek homeworld of Jadajean, the entire southeren continent has been turned into a giant restockable battle ground. Fresh slaves are dropped off all over the continent weekly, and left to scavange the weaponry that has been left all amongst the ruins that spread the length and width of the continent. Who built and then destroyed this once massive city are unknown as whatever happened took place thousands of years earlier.

Rengade Space Marines, no matter what chapter they have come from, must take part in what is known as "the final test". It consists of squad sized groups of marines being dropped off randomly across the continent and left there for 1 terran year to survive. Normaly all the marines in each squad are from the same chapter, and gathered over a long period of time so they kill the slave stock and not each other. During this time they are watched and judged by hidden outposts that the Claw masters can watch from.

If the marines survive the year, they are able to join the rengade chapter. They are required to wear thier old chapter colors and badges except for thier power plant, left shoulder guard and arm along with the helmet, which are in the normal Claws of Lorek scheme. They almost never gain a rank higher then battle brother as they have, what the Claws consider, defunct geneseed. Those inplanted with Lorek's own geneseed are generally allowed advancement into the chapters higher levels.

If a slave manages to kill a marine, for whatever reason, they are usually taken directly for hypno-indoctronation so they may join the Claws of Lorek, using Lorek's own geneseed. Once they become a true battle brother they are taken to join a command squad overseeing marines from other chapters. Thus, the Claws remain masters over the other marines, most of the time that is.

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Small update:

Sgts banner tommorow as im stuck on how to complete it. Right now the left side is half the ultra symbol, the other half is the Claws pattern. It looks good but kinda plain.

These are done as much as im gonna do for now. This is the quality im going for even with the small messups and such. My main goal is just to finish all 112 marines plus friends before the 1st of november.

Well, actually, I am going to fix the bases. Im gonna go that when the squad is done.



As always, feedback, good or bad, helps keep me motivated on this project.




Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/19 11:22:00


Post by: Fresh


i really like your blue, not to solid about the helm though that may just be the pic..

Cheers,
Gutteridge


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/19 12:43:10


Post by: Smashotron


Maybe for the last tactical you could do a squad of Space Wolves, Blood Angels, or Blood Ravens?


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/19 18:55:09


Post by: redstarone


Gutteridge wrote:i really like your blue, not to solid about the helm though that may just be the pic..

Cheers,
Gutteridge


All of the helms? or just the sgts helm? Oh and yea, the pic is bad. It was taken at 5 am with no secondary light source.

Smashotron wrote:Maybe for the last tactical you could do a squad of Space Wolves, Blood Angels, or Blood Ravens?


Hmmmm space wolves might work.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/20 00:18:37


Post by: redstarone


People have been wondering who the friends will be so....



Its an "obliterator" if anyone was wondering. I plan to run the "cult of destruction" along with the battle company. As well as a dreadnought formation. I cant remember the name but eh, im sure someone will chime in with the name.



Other obliterators. As you can see they are all custom designs for that unique mechanicus look. Cookie to the person that guesses what RT kit made 2 of the bodies and heads.



Teaser shot of one of the dreadnoughts. I would show the whole thing but its going to get a repaint. I never finished painting it when I built it like 2 years ago.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/20 09:02:33


Post by: The Dreadnote


Wow, nice dread. It's like a mini-titan.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/20 19:53:55


Post by: redstarone


The Dreadnote wrote:Wow, nice dread. It's like a mini-titan.


Thanks, that hapens to be the look I was going for!


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/21 20:28:15


Post by: redstarone


Large Friend number 3.

Its plague tower painting time!

Last pic before final detailing on nurgling huts, more rivets, and some more GS. Shouldnt take more then 2 hours or work before I can undercoat it.

Oh and the bell tower isnt attached right now. Im going to paint that last before attaching it.



There are also a few random plastic bitz that wont get glued onto the side until its done being painted. So fear not, there are other nurgle things on board.

As always, I love any kind of feedback, good or bad. Oh and I could use some opinions on how to paint this badboy.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/24 00:20:55


Post by: redstarone


Taking a break from the tower to work on this guy. Im not a fan of massivly mutated spawn. I see my marines as killing the mindless spawn and keeping the ones that still have some since of reasoning, even if it is on a very pasic level. I like the idea of them being "possessed marines gone wrong".



Then.....









I need to wait for this layer to dry before the final stuff like straps holding the power plant on, and more drug injectors, the reason the guy has a power plant still.

As always, C&C is much loved. Good or bad.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/24 05:40:40


Post by: ghostmaker


Love that look. Greatly looks evil then yet still Imperial.

I want to do the robots for my Preheresy EC thats a great Idea.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/24 10:40:25


Post by: redstarone


ghostmaker wrote:Love that look. Greatly looks evil then yet still Imperial.

I want to do the robots for my Preheresy EC thats a great Idea.


If you like that those guys then keep an eye out for the other 5.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/24 21:08:15


Post by: redstarone


Quick question,

Should I paint the land raider doors on the plague tower in the clas of lorek scheme or in a nurgle scheme?


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/25 21:28:11


Post by: redstarone


Wow.. I had a busy day with the soon to be wife!

So yea, base still needs alot of work but other then that....





I am kinda iffy on how the intestines turned out. I wanted something that doesnt stand out but I think they may be to subtle in color. I dont think ill change this guy but any future ones might need a slight scheme change.

As always C&C welcome.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/25 21:54:28


Post by: JD21290


love the spawn
good idea fluff wise too.

glad GW made the plastic ones, hated the old metal spawn.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/26 01:36:29


Post by: redstarone


JD21290 wrote:love the spawn
good idea fluff wise too.

glad GW made the plastic ones, hated the old metal spawn.


Thanks for the compliment! Yea I hated the metal one too. I was however very good for bitz


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/26 10:22:44


Post by: Aventine Fly Lord


Really nice stuff. You need to make it down to Austin for a game one of these days...


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/26 12:54:24


Post by: GrandWarmasterPinto


If you don't mind me asking what bits went into making those Oblits? I can see some Ork bike bits in there.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/26 20:46:45


Post by: redstarone


Aventine Fly Lord wrote:Really nice stuff. You need to make it down to Austin for a game one of these days...


Your like the 3rd person that has told me that in 2 days. Where do you game?

GrandWarmasterPinto wrote:If you don't mind me asking what bits went into making those Oblits? I can see some Ork bike bits in there.


Hm lets see.. from Obliterators left to right:
Head - Tau battlesuit head.
Body - OOP wartbike cut up
Arms - Epic Lord of Battle arms
Lower Half - Warbike again

The other 2 are pretty much all OOP RT era land speeder and a few modern bitz like bower fists and auto cannons.

The painted one is just random vehicle gubbinz and plastic card.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/30 22:48:43


Post by: redstarone




And,
claw up or down?





The big guy will count as a dreadnought. Think massivly mutated marines after fabius bile came around to "help".


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/30 23:23:30


Post by: Smashotron


claw up, definitely. nice stuff, i really like how its coming along.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/31 20:02:26


Post by: redstarone


Smashotron wrote:claw up, definitely. nice stuff, i really like how its coming along.


Thanks for helping to keep me motivated!

Dread is done, just waiting on the new comp to be delivered and I can then upload a ton of updates.

Honestly I must say im suprised anyone replies at all. dakka seemsto be a place that either A) you have to be a regualar for people to reply to your stff, or B) you have the be a GD winning person.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/31 20:10:55


Post by: alarmingrick


i'd have to say claw down. just feels right to me.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/08/31 20:11:21


Post by: JD21290


i say claw down
gives it a nice shooting pose
might have to start making some spawn


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/01 06:52:07


Post by: TheThing


awesome stuff here, seriously. really like the latest models


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/01 08:49:32


Post by: Hughzle


awesome work i love the idea i just wonder sometimes how many years
it will take for me to get that good!


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/01 16:16:22


Post by: Mofreaka


Very nice all around, I like the claw up, it gives the "crazy when I cause chaos I get excited" look. Hopefully that makes sense!

Freaka


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/03 07:49:22


Post by: redstarone


alarmingrick wrote:i'd have to say claw down. just feels right to me.


JD21290 wrote:i say claw down
gives it a nice shooting pose
might have to start making some spawn


Thats what had me unable to decide up or down. Thanks for the input guys!

TheThing wrote:awesome stuff here, seriously. really like the latest models


Thanks for the very kind words.

Hughzle wrote:awesome work i love the idea i just wonder sometimes how many years
it will take for me to get that good!


Not long if you practice. Practice makes perfect. Well, maybe not perfect as no one can be but as close to it as possible.

Mofreaka wrote:Very nice all around, I like the claw up, it gives the "crazy when I cause chaos I get excited" look. Hopefully that makes sense!

Freaka


The exact reason I was leaning more towards to up high pose.
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I should have my new laptop by the end of this week, so until then, a friend took these up at the shop this weekend. In the pics its not yet completed and still needed skin on the thighs, clafs fleshed out, arms beefed up and the neck finished. As well as a few other things. So until the completed pics can be uploaded...






Oh and I went with the arm down for the simple reason that its already a tall model so its hard enough to transport. I wanted it up. :( Maybe the next one will have the CC arm up.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/04 21:05:14


Post by: redstarone



I got a request to post this before GSing pics are posted. Ive had the pics taken for 2 or so weeks now and still havent started any GSing. To many commission projects to work on a largeish project of my own.









Nothing to special. Just minor cut and chops here and there. The open hatch on the back will be where a pile of skulls is going.

C&C always welcome and loved. Oh and incase anyone was wondering, the dread will be having the backpack replaced with a more dreadnought like power plant.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/04 23:28:20


Post by: TheThing


ok, so the soulgrinder looks pretty cool cant wait too see what you have planned for that keep up the cool and kinky work


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/05 18:59:36


Post by: redstarone


TheThing wrote:ok, so the soulgrinder looks pretty cool cant wait too see what you have planned for that keep up the cool and kinky work


Thanks


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/05 23:36:34


Post by: Smashotron


don't forget, claw up! ...eventually!


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/06 18:31:45


Post by: redstarone


Smashotron wrote:don't forget, claw up! ...eventually!


The missing arm on the slaughterfiend is a defiler claw arm, to match the arm thats attached already. I plan to indeed have it up in the air.



Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/10 00:23:13


Post by: redstarone


Not really Claws related but...













Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/10 00:26:05


Post by: JD21290


not really claws related, but looks wicked!
ogre tyrant, nurgle DP sword and carrion wings?


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/10 00:31:25


Post by: redstarone


JD21290 wrote:not really claws related, but looks wicked!
ogre tyrant, nurgle DP sword and carrion wings?


Yep, only diffrence is its a GUO sword. Honestly, I cant take credit for the pose or bitz choices as it was a commission project and the client sent the stuff. I just did the GS work. I really posted it to show of the kind of detail I plan to put into any of the allied chaos units the renegade company will have.

BTW thanks for the compliment and ultra fast reply.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/10 00:34:25


Post by: JD21290


ah, so it is
didnt see the sheep skull on the other hand.

about the work, what are you like at re-making ork heads and small areas of muscle?


Edit: no probs on the speedy reply, got nothing better to be doing while waiting for my GF to get back from her night shift.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/10 06:13:46


Post by: redstarone


JD21290 wrote:ah, so it is
didnt see the sheep skull on the other hand.

about the work, what are you like at re-making ork heads and small areas of muscle?


Ive never tried and ork head, but muscle isnt a problem. However, unless your ready to wait a little while, im competly full on commissions right now. The next opening isnt for at least 3 weeks.



Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/16 19:07:48


Post by: redstarone


Not claws related... again. and yes, like before, its another commission. Still very much a WIP but the client wanted to see something.



its hard to see that there is indeed some curve to the front. Its not a block.







Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/17 02:54:13


Post by: redstarone


More WIP shots..







The foam board has been roughed up to make a better bond when i plate it with plastic card.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/17 07:37:53


Post by: TheThing


this looks mighty promising really awesome so far not just the thunderhawk, but everything


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/17 21:41:25


Post by: redstarone


TheThing wrote:this looks mighty promising really awesome so far not just the thunderhawk, but everything


Thanks!



Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/19 15:14:24


Post by: Spawn


Oh thats amazing.. I loved spawn and where did you get those wings to that guy?


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/20 19:43:33


Post by: redstarone


Spawn wrote:Oh thats amazing.. I loved spawn and where did you get those wings to that guy?


The client said they came from the carrion lord vampire counts kit.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/28 04:22:20


Post by: redstarone










Taken today up a tthe shop before a small apoc game. I just noticed the left hand isnt done.

Also, im very torn on weather the lower legs should be chipped paint (which right now isnt done) or snow build up like he has been walking in knee high snow all day.

What do you guys think?


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/28 04:51:58


Post by: alarmingrick


i'm not sure if it'd be the heat from his armor or the whole evil thing,
but i don't think he would be snow covered. i say chipped!
and he looks freakin great by the way!!
and the base is really well done too!


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/28 18:59:48


Post by: redstarone


alarmingrick wrote:i'm not sure if it'd be the heat from his armor or the whole evil thing,
but i don't think he would be snow covered. i say chipped!
and he looks freakin great by the way!!
and the base is really well done too!


Thanks for the kind words Rick! Good point on the chipped paint. I think thats the route im gonna go.

As for the base, did you notice the guard helmet with skull inside?



Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/28 23:34:57


Post by: TheThing


can you try get a better picture ofthe helmet with the skull inside????? cant see it, shame such a thing should go to waste


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/09/29 05:22:33


Post by: redstarone


TheThing wrote:can you try get a better picture ofthe helmet with the skull inside????? cant see it, shame such a thing should go to waste


Surething. It may be a day or 2 until then.



Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/01 14:47:51


Post by: TheThing


alright cool no rush takeyourtiem and post it when yo can


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/01 22:51:51


Post by: redstarone


TheThing wrote:alright cool no rush takeyourtiem and post it when yo can


Excuse the bad quality, I took them last night, with no light box, and no extra light..







Expect major updates here and mainly at the www.conversioncorner.com site on all things Lorek. While it may seem like I havent been busy on the army here, ive actually been working my booty off on them as well as a bunch of commissions.

Im just waiting until my light box is done being built so I can get some good photos of the guys and not the crap thats in this post.



Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/02 07:32:08


Post by: TheThing


awesome, thats pretty damn cool


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/02 16:47:36


Post by: redstarone


TheThing wrote:awesome, thats pretty damn cool


Thanks for the kind words!


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/08 00:42:33


Post by: redstarone


TheThing wrote:welcome by all means




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Pretty much ready for paint. Just needs GS gap filling, nothing special this time, and a chain for the rider the be holding that goes around the neck of the slaugherfiend.











Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/08 01:49:44


Post by: doak22


Cool conversion. I like the variety of bitz you put on.

Any way to make the rider more dynamic? He looks rather meh compared to the beasty. And I don't think just a chain and fixing the gap at his foot will solve the problem.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/08 02:33:32


Post by: Waaagh_Gonads


Love the conversion you have done for the slaughterfiend.

Also having somehow missed this thread until today, great work on the whole force so far.
Looks fantastic.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/08 02:49:55


Post by: alarmingrick


wow, simply wow!
that's freakin' great.
i'd suggest maybe bending his right
leg at the knee to give him a sense
of movement.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/08 03:05:30


Post by: burb1996


BLARGAG!!! wrote:what about the mortifactors?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mortifactors

i think that this is a pretty kool looking scheme


Morifactors would be VERY cool...I am sure I am saying that b/c I'm in the middle of reading the Ultramarines series by Graham McNeill. Just reading about them they sound like a chapter on the very brink of falling to chaos....Who knows. Maybe a company or two allready has and that is part of the chapters crusading. To bring your rebels to justice.

But I love your choice, Very nice project.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/09 06:43:14


Post by: redstarone


doak22 wrote:Cool conversion. I like the variety of bitz you put on.

Any way to make the rider more dynamic? He looks rather meh compared to the beasty. And I don't think just a chain and fixing the gap at his foot will solve the problem.


The legs are actually cut and bent back a bit. The picture just doesnt really show it properly. But that said, I think your still right and ill see what I can do. Thanks for the advice!

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Love the conversion you have done for the slaughterfiend.

Also having somehow missed this thread until today, great work on the whole force so far.
Looks fantastic.


Thanks Mr Gonads! Ive lurked here for many years and you sir have been a solid rock here at Dakka. Im glad you are enjoying the force so far.

alarmingrick wrote:wow, simply wow!
that's freakin' great.
i'd suggest maybe bending his right
leg at the knee to give him a sense
of movement.


Thats exactly what it needs! While the picdoesnt show the best angle, a more pronounced bent knee would help a ton. Once again you rock rick!

burb1996 wrote:
BLARGAG!!! wrote:what about the mortifactors?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mortifactors

i think that this is a pretty kool looking scheme


Morifactors would be VERY cool...I am sure I am saying that b/c I'm in the middle of reading the Ultramarines series by Graham McNeill. Just reading about them they sound like a chapter on the very brink of falling to chaos....Who knows. Maybe a company or two allready has and that is part of the chapters crusading. To bring your rebels to justice.

But I love your choice, Very nice project.


All I can say is, wait til tomorow when the pre paint company commander is posted. Without saying to much, he is a counts as Vulcan whats-his-name special character out of the new dex.


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/11 22:24:28


Post by: redstarone



Ive been really busy all around and havent had time to post any pics or really even do any online work at all. I have done more work on the hawk since the pic was taken. Cockpit is done as well as the front and top detailing. Also the small fins and wings have been added. In fact, im gonna go try and take some pics right now. There is such a big diffrence that showing this pic is pretty pointless, well besides making the client feel good inside to see some work done on his model. Speaking of, ive gotten the other 2 hawks to about the level of work as in the pic below. Ill snap some shots of them all together as well. They are taking up my entire table.



Also, this guy is the count as vulcan whats-hisname special character out of the new marine dex. Pic is obviously pre GS and pre claw snip as the character guy has a guantlet that fires a heavy flamer shot but isnt a claw per say. he has since been painted and once I get some pics taken ill updatethe claws log heavily. Ive finished quite a bit for them.



Im also working on an article for bartertown on how to build a new style plague tower. I may or may not also put the article on the www.conversioncorner.com site .


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/11 22:54:19


Post by: migsula


Interesting work! The mods should move this to the M&P blogs forum though


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/10/14 20:24:41


Post by: redstarone


migsula wrote:Interesting work! The mods should move this to the M&P blogs forum though


Thats a great idea! Mods, I could use a bit of help


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/11/03 10:58:58


Post by: redstarone


nidz wrote:those are awesome.


Thanks!

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I was going to hold off on posting this until I had his other friends painted but eh, ive had the pictures to long on the hard drive and with all the camera problems im having, its nice to post something..

C&C is very much welcome and since this is for my own personal army rather then a commission, please point out anything that doesnt look right. The army will have 2 other dreads so now is a good time to finalize the paint scheme.









Additional pictures will be up ASAP of this guy plus his many friends, at http://www.conversioncorner.com .


Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/11/03 11:27:18


Post by: Malika2


Renegade Marines? Perhaps they could be a company of the Red Corsairs? The black and red seem to be very fitting for that, perhaps the shoulderpad marking belongs to another company than the "red x" over the armour the rest of them seem to have. You might want to include some normal scheme Red Corsairs (click it)



Claws of Lorek - Renegade Marine Battle Company - Updated - 11-03-08 - Completed Dreadnought @ 2008/11/03 17:15:02


Post by: redstarone


Malika2 wrote:Renegade Marines? Perhaps they could be a company of the Red Corsairs? The black and red seem to be very fitting for that, perhaps the shoulderpad marking belongs to another company than the "red x" over the armour the rest of them seem to have. You might want to include some normal scheme Red Corsairs (click it)



The Claws of Lorek are a splinter group broken away from the Red Corsairs


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Post by: LBursley


hey redstarone, where can i read up on the story for CoL. im thinking if they are traitors, id do them like Cypher (the fallen Dark Angel wearing a cloak to cover his green armor.). since thay cant get out of the suits.. trying to cover up what they hate. like a mix maybe. if i was in their position i take anything i could to get stuff off.. rubbing my emblems off my shoulder pads with rocks, bolting scrap metal over it, etc.. the story line will give a lot of hints.. i like to build my models after knowing the story about them, and add details accordingly. you have the skills painting/sculpting... have fun and pretend you are they guy your painting.. what would you look like?


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Post by: JohnHwangDD


I really like the tigerstripe on the dread, along with the metalwork. Really nice!