Thought I'd collate everything here as I found a bunch of info overnight.

Via Warseer:

Spearhead contents:
The following new characters in the first wave (Shown at Games Day Germany)

Champion of Chaos on Daemonic Steed
Champion of Khorne on Juggernaut
Champion of Khorne on foot
Sorcerer of Nurgle on foot
two new special Characters (one Slaanesh, the other undivided?)

So maybe the following inside the spearhead (only new models):

10 Hounds (they come in boxes of ten)
5 Knights
5 Marauders
10 Chosen
6 new characters (as there are only six)

Via Warseer and Wargamer AU:

units confirmed IN the book are:
Lord of Chaos
Sorcerer Lord
Daemon Prince

Exalted Champion
Aspiring Champion
Chaos Sorcerer

Marauders
marauder Horsemen
Hounds
Chaos Warriors
Chaos Knights
Chosen (on foot only)
Chariots
Ogres, Trolls, Dragon Ogres, Shaggoth
Giant
Hellcannon
Spawn
Forsaken (apparently a unit of Chaos Warriors that are on their way to getting a bit too many mutations for their own good)

Apparently chaos knights now all have chosen stats (and equivalent point costs) ie there is no such thing as an unchosen chaos knight anymore. Also supposedly marauders, ogres and chaos trolls can now be marked. I am a bit sceptical of this but we'll see I guess...

Also there are rumours of two known special characers - one the king of the chaos trolls, and the second a dragon ogre character.

Also from Warseer:

Marks of Chaos:

Khorne = Frenzy
Nurgle = -1 WS and BS for enemy when attacking or shooting the unit
Slaanesh = Itp, but ASF also for characters and I think Giants and Ogres.
Tzeentch = +1 ward save and +1 to cast if you are a wizard.

Army rule IS re-roll panic.

Gaze of the Gods table
you roll 2D6 in certain situations, which are:
Character wins a challenge (doesn't include beating unit champs however)
Character kills a large target

Trolls regenerate 2 or more wounds

Characters can get Chaos Gifts aswell as Magic Items (much like how the
Vampire Powers work)

War Alter is IN!!! Sort of like a Chariot mounted Cauldron of Blood if you
will in that it is a chariot type model but gives benefits similar to the cauldron

Knights are S5 with magical attacks, or
at S6 with non-magical attacks, lance replaces the magic weapon.

On top of that, Chosen may roll at the start of the game and the War Alter
allows one unit per turn roll, as one of its benefits.

Horsemen and Giants can now be marked, and Ogres can be marked too.
Oh, and Ogres have Chaos Armour

Armybook cover (seen on dakka previously)

Khorne Lord on Jugger:

New:
Marauder Horsemen:

This will be my next army after working on High Elves over my Christmas Holidays...

Also I really like what they have done with the marks for Tzeentch and Nurgle- Much more characterful

Props for the round-up Gonads

Like the new marks, like the unit line up, love that you can mark more units. Marked ogres? With 4+ armor? Hells yes. I know a few chaos ogre players who will be happy to be able to run their counts as OK armies as chaos brute armies (led by the character that makes them core).

Also on Forsaken, I heard something along the lines of S5 T5 and a high Movement to get them where they want to be.

Good to hear on the drop of non-chosen knights, more interesting this way. And with a lance too, groovy.

- Salvage

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Trolls regenerate 2 or more wounds

I remember that rumor on Warseer, but the complete thing was if trolls regenerate 2 or more wounds (at once?) than X happens to make them better. My guess is adding attaks (more arms / heads grow back).

- Salvage

I think they get a roll on the Gaze of the Gods table.

Can't wait to see that. It sounds chaos-olicious.

When you say tzeentch gets +1 to ward save, do you mean they only get that if they already have a ward save?

So a unit of warriors marked with tzeentch gain no benefit? tzeentch only benefits characters?

le sigh ...

No ward save + 1 = 6+ ward? Ala the get you by rules, a talisman of protection for everyone.

- Salvage

Great ... so we ended up getting the "get you by..." WD rules for Tzeentch, but atleast our wizards get +1 to casting.

It looks like my Tzeentch army might be staying in retirement for the time being, or being sold (if anyone would want crappy overpriced warriors with no ward save or a 6+ ward save, that is ...)

Awsome. I have so many Chaos Warriors waiting to be built. I love the idea of only chosen Knights. I like the gifts and magic items, alot more variety in characters (I hope). Marks look good. I just hope Lords of Khorne don't lose their frenzy if they lose by combat res. I never like the champions of the blood god getting tired and not being mad anymore. -K

Oh, I hope a mundain shield won't cost a Lord 15 points & an Enchanted shield 10. -K

Wow, marked Mauraders would be sick. You could get ItP or Fear Causing guys for fairly cheap, making the block fairly decent.

And if Chaos Ogres somehow get Chaos Armor, Marks, and a character that lets them be core, then I will have to re-paint my OK army and find a way to tack on some conversions.

New chaos lord:

I can't wait to get my hands on the new book and the new models, fawkin drool tbh ^^

F"$K me.

That Chaos Lord is everything the Chaos warriors should be.

He just needed a long cloak, and he'd be perfect. And some leather boots ala warriors (and the Khorne lord needed those, too) to be promoted from a very interesting miniature to a complete must buy.

I cannot argue with that chaos lord model, damn nice. The only thing I dislike is the extra spikes all over his horse, but grudgingly I admit that they could actually serve a purpose unlike a good number of chaos I AM SO SPIKY models :S

Another good find Gonads!

- Salvage

I like the new lord on the horse. I might actually buy a few GW models for my nascent Hordse of Chaos "counts as GW" army.

Boss_Salvage wrote:I cannot argue with that chaos lord model, damn nice. The only thing I dislike is the extra spikes all over his horse, but grudgingly I admit that they could actually serve a purpose unlike a good number of chaos I AM SO SPIKY models :S

It would actually explain those attacks from the mount! That's a really nice model. That horse looks solid enough to carry a Space Marine. I dig it.

Hopefully the Dragon Ogres will get a re-sculpt for this new book. Those models look awfully dated now.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

They do indeed!

And if they do, and they look a lot like the Shaggoth model, I won't even be that upset over what I spent on the toothy-grin bunch I already have!

Wow. There are some really solid miniatures coming up in this range. I wasn't all that interested at first, but these are amazing.

RZ

That chaos lord mounted on the steed is so awesome in all its Frank Frazetta-inspired-ness that I am going to have to get that just to paint it. Very nice piece.

That lord on Jugger is great too. GW is really stepping up with the sculpting lately.

wow, that is an amazing model! i have wanted to get into fantasy for ever but i could never make my mind up abut the army i wanted to play. This may make the desicion easy for me.

Nice one on the round-up Gonads.

Been looking at the over 100page thread on Warseer for a little while now sifting through for the goodies.

The new mini's look amazing. Hopefully the book will back it up to make a fun army to play.

Can't wait till the 18th of Oct!

http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/games-workshop/warhammer/warriors-of-chaos/warriors-of-chaos-spearhead/prod_2443.html

The new heroes are really something properly Chaos.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:New:
Marauder Horsemen:

Ooh! Conan cavalry, I wonder if these will be £12 a box like Dark Elf Cold Ones. I don't play fantasy but I'd buy a box of these.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:New chaos lord:

For some reason I immediately thought of that Molly Hatchet albuum cover.

The GW fig is not exact, but close enough to be an homage. Very cool.

I really like most of what I am seeing, but I hope that the army book cover posted is a mock up. The cgi looks gaudy, and subpar compared to the old paintings.

GodlessM (on Warseer)
Well I can do you one better and give the actual stats instead of a rumour,
though they have been posted like 10 times already, but here you go:

Chaos Warriors 15pts
M4 WS5 BS4 S4 T4 W1 I5 A2 Ltd8 AS4+
Shield: 1pt/model

Seems pretty good to me!

Dwarf Ironbreakers are now wondering why they're Special, or even exist at all.

Course you probably still will see practically no infantry and max Cav, but that's a problem with infantry in general not with Chaos Warriors.

Death By Monkeys wrote:It would actually explain those attacks from the mount! That's a really nice model. That horse looks solid enough to carry a Space Marine. I dig it.

Nah, you don't need spikes to explain attacks from a mount. Warhorses were trained to bite and kick in battle, and even had specific commands to clear enemy infantry from in front of and behind them. A lot of the times the horses did as much (if not more) damage to the enemy as the riders.

That said, all of these are total awesomeness. This is the first set of GW releases in awhile that I am actually excited about. I love the new mounted lord, and I don't even mind the spikes (besides, they'd be easy enough to remove if you wanted). These spikes are more tasteful than GW's usual spiky fare.

The marauder horsemen are nice too. I've got a decent start to a Chaos army lying around in various states of assembly and paintedness, and these releases might push me over the edge into making it a full-fledged army (even without Beastmen)!

I can't wait to see the new knights! The current knights are some of my favorite GW models, and I hope the new ones are just as good or better!

The cover of the book is quite lackluster (especially compared to the last HoC cover, which is one of my favorites), but as long as the rules are good and well-balanced, I won't really care too much about what's on the cover.

Hordini wrote: Piles and piles of truth

Indeed sir, my thoughts exactly!

Hordini wrote:Nah, you don't need spikes to explain attacks from a mount. Warhorses were trained to bite and kick in battle, and even had specific commands to clear enemy infantry from in front of and behind them. A lot of the times the horses did as much (if not more) damage to the enemy as the riders.

Nah, I know, I was being facetious. Heh - from my own experience running a Bretonnian army, I know my knights mounts often did more damage than the knights did.

Wehrkind wrote:

Hordini wrote: Piles and piles of truth

Indeed sir, my thoughts exactly!

Seconded. Started painting some Warriors I've had undercoated for years in readiness.

Let's hope the book is all we hope it will be.

Woo-Hoo!!!

Or should I say?

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

George Spiggott wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:New:
Marauder Horsemen:

Ooh! Conan cavalry, I wonder if these will be £12 a box like Dark Elf Cold Ones. I don't play fantasy but I'd buy a box of these.

yeah they would be a awesome source for traiter guard rought riders...!

Panic...

WOW - that lord on Juggernaught looks FANTASTIC.

Any word on how marks may or may not play together?

Can a Lord Of Khorne easily have Nurgle in his army?

Fred

Good question!

If they are going to follow the 40K model, the big 4 are all chummy now.

I hope that there is some kind of animosity in there somewhere though...

Summary of all known new WoC rules link, everything is 99% confirmed.

Grahg the Elfmuncher wrote:Summary of all known new WoC rules link, everything is 99% confirmed.

I didnt see anything in there about animosity issues (maybe I missed it?), so, there aren't any?

The Many Colors of Chaos/Skittles Warband Building theory continues!

Hurrah?

If that linked post is even 99% accurate, then I may drool over my Chaos more than I did my Dark Elves.

It's a shame I still have some Screamers, Flamers, and Horrors I won't be able to do much with.

Manfred von Drakken wrote:If that linked post is even 99% accurate, then I may drool over my Chaos more than I did my Dark Elves.

It's a shame I still have some Screamers, Flamers, and Horrors I won't be able to do much with.

Buy 3 boxes of bloodletters, skulltaker and a LOC and you'll have one of the most brutal daemon lists going for about a $150US outlay....

Hmm.....even though I hate the model - I'm sad to see the Chaos Dragon go by the way-side. I really liked the artwork and imagery for it - even if the model makes me want to punch puppies......

Fred

What do you mean the Chaos Dragon is going by the wayside? Did I miss something?

Galrauch is a Chaos Dragon, and it looks like he's still included in the book.

I'd be incredibly surprised if they dropped the option for the Chaos Lord to take a Dragon (they do have those lovely High Elf plastic Dragon kits to sell) and as pointed out Galrauch is still in the list.

Oh, you meant the option for a Lord to take a dragon mount (duh!). Well I feel sheepish.

But yeah, I certainly hope they don't remove that option. The link says that Lords are the "same as the WD list." I take it the Lords cant take a dragon mount in the WD list?

Well if that's the case, I really hope they allow it in the book.

They can in the WD list.

Honestly the new rumors make me kind of happy I've been too busy with Warmachine to build the Dark Elf monster army since Chaos might do it better:

Lord on Dragon
(hopefully they keep the item to give it a 3+ Ward from shooting)
2x Mounted Caddies

3x Maurauder Fast Cav
Hounds

2x Chaos Knights
2x Chariots
1x Dragon Ogres

2x Shaggoth

Not sure if it will all fit in that 2250 umbrella, but I have a hankering to make a really good big monster list and this may be it.

Hmm, that's probably good news then, if they can take dragons in the WD list.

Yeah, I'm actually kind of excited about the possibilities of the new Army Book. I guess we'll see what happens when it comes out.

It will be sad that soon the only way to get Daemons on the table is via the Daemon Army list.

I'll miss seeing Greater Daemons mixed in with other forces...

Darn, can someone convince me why did I start a Goblin army again?

The Lords like very nice, I might have to get one or 2 and paint them up.

Darn, can someone convince me why did I start a Goblin army again?

Yeah to the warp with my Goblins aswell, Big Bubba will have to wait for his horde.

ALL HAIL GLORIOUS SLAANESH!!!

Spearhead is up on GW website:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat1330442&rootCatGameStyle=wh

36 models & army book for $246, on par with the other spearheads.

NICE - those Chaos Warhounds should do nicely as Flesh Hounds of Khorne for my 40K Demons.......

That might be the first Spearhed I've actually got and used.

Fred

I believe that is also the last spearhead they're releasing.

Lords can take a dragon mount, but that uses up extra slots.

There's a picture (really small, unfortunately) of the Spearhead box floating around on GW's site now.

Too small to make out many details, but, maybe someone else has a larger pic?

Sorry to intrude here.
I followed a link to this thread from my store stats www.waylandgames.co.uk

I think its likely this will be the last Spearhead, and its not going to be available in large numbers. UK indies are only getting a max of 3 of the SM spearhead currently.

Cough.... new chaos knights closeup... cough.

With thanks to cobraworld.net

Word on the street is that the daemon prince is to be plastic...

Those knights are amazing! WAY better than the current metal ones.

Love the eyes on shield! But not very happy with knights helms... way to big horns, a bit overkill if you ask me.

I think I'm going to heve to see the knights in the flesh.
They are super mega loaded with details that I think will either win or fail in 3 dimensions rather than an undecided for a pic.

Plastic Daemon Prince must have wings.

BYE

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Cough.... new chaos knights closeup... cough.

With thanks to cobraworld.net

Whom ever GW has working on horses now needs to stop. They clearly went to the PP "horses are just large dogs" school of sculpting, and that is not something we need with WHFB.

Makes me fear for Rough Riders... finally get a plastic kit, only to be coupled with terrible horses... that would be bad.

damn, the new models for thi line are just all so impresive. This will be such a kick ass army.

GW's goofy helmet disease strikes again!

And they're not even Khorne specific!

Still, in plastic that should be fairly easy to fix.

Makes you wonder why they went and made them look so different to the on-foot Chaos Warriors. Those models are *perfect* - they are what a Chaos Warrior always should have been - so why go and make overblown, busy and jarring Chaos Knight models when all they had to do was make mounted Chaos Warriors and they would have been beyond awesome.

BYE

Also odd in that the new plastic marauder horsemen helmets are much closer to the current knights.

My hope is these are the chosen knights and the current knights wil be kept as regular, non goofy helmeted chaos knights.

I think they would be chosen knights as they look very similar to the metal chosen chaos warriors in that they to choose to go to town in the latest OTT horns, skulls and ridiculously oversized weapons.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Plastic Daemon Prince must have wings.

BYE

Kit comes with wings as an option.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Also odd in that the new plastic marauder horsemen helmets are much closer to the current knights.

My hope is these are the chosen knights and the current knights wil be kept as regular, non goofy helmeted chaos knights.

I think they would be chosen knights as they look very similar to the metal chosen chaos warriors in that they to choose to go to town in the latest OTT horns, skulls and ridiculously oversized weapons.

Word on the street (the old Warseer thread anyway) was that there will be no Chosen Knights. Only Chaos Knights, but they're getter a boost in power to be a middle ground between the two.

I'm undecided on the models as of yet. Might be overkill, might be cool and very chaotic. A model in the hand will tell.

Apone wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Also odd in that the new plastic marauder horsemen helmets are much closer to the current knights.

My hope is these are the chosen knights and the current knights wil be kept as regular, non goofy helmeted chaos knights.

I think they would be chosen knights as they look very similar to the metal chosen chaos warriors in that they to choose to go to town in the latest OTT horns, skulls and ridiculously oversized weapons.

Word on the street (the old Warseer thread anyway) was that there will be no Chosen Knights. Only Chaos Knights, but they're getter a boost in power to be a middle ground between the two.

I'm undecided on the models as of yet. Might be overkill, might be cool and very chaotic. A model in the hand will tell.

It's pretty much confirmed that the new "Chaos Knights" have the same profile as the old Chosen Knights from the HOC book. They wear Chaos Armor, have 2 Attacks base and can have either S5 Magical Attacks or have S4 with Mundane Lances (so S6 on the charge) as an option.

That's it.

Voodoo Boyz wrote:
It's pretty much confirmed that the new "Chaos Knights" have the same profile as the old Chosen Knights from the HOC book. They wear Chaos Armor, have 2 Attacks base and can have either S5 Magical Attacks or have S4 with Mundane Lances (so S6 on the charge) as an option.

That's it.

Apart from that they cause fear now, allegedly.

Chaos infantry with thanks to Urgat on Warseer

CHosen champ with thanks to Urgat on Warseer

Price Sigvald with thanks to Urgat on Warseer.



Will make a great elf or empire hero with minimal modification

Wulfrik the wanderer with thanks to Urgat on warseer

Leggy wrote:Apart from that they cause fear now, allegedly.

They do.100% confirmed.

I like the new Warriors, they look impressive - looks like I will finish my Nurgle 40k army just in time to start a Nurgle WFB one...

All hail the Plague Father!

Don't like Sigvald though - typical Slaaneshi pansy.

I tell you, those lot are not proper Chaos...

Thanks for even more pics Gonads. Of the new lot, I suppose I like the chosen champion, or perhaps the chosen dudes with chaos star helmets. Otherwise I dunno, not really grabbed by this stuff. Sigwald is a nice sculpt, but not really getting the OMG EEVIL vibe off him ...

Of all the new models I've seen I think the mounted marauders are my favorite, and the most needed too (besides plastic hounds but those things look kinda ... not great in the spearhead pic). Handy too because if/when I do chaos I intend to have LOTS of those fast cav boys

- Salvage

Does anyone else feel khorne is getting a bit of a shaft? I mean all the other marks get something useful and perminant. Khorne, once again, gets frenzy, which can be almost a disadvantage in ways. Warriors, while cheaper now, still will cost over 200 points for a decent size and command. With mark of khorne, your adding (what im guessing) 4o points, so your guys can be controlled on the field. sure they get an extra attack, but as soon as you loose one round of combat, those points you invested are worthless. They didnt even give bloodletters, Khornes own daemon soldiers frenzy. I think is preety stupid that these Bad*sses would suddenly lose their frenzy after a unit of mortals beats them. Personally, i think the mok chould be changed to have osmething like hatred. If they want to give em frenzy, make it so they cannot loose it, like a proper khornate would be like. Dont give them frenzy when everyother god is getting something so much more useful.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Price Sigvald with thanks to Urgat on Warseer.



Will make a great elf or empire hero with minimal modification

I love the background on this guy that they mentioned at the GT. He requires his bodyguard to have their shields polished to a mirrored sheen so he can see himself on the battlefield at any time.

I don't think Khorne is getting the shaft anywhere near as much as the 3 ft thick pole of nerf that got shoved up Tzeentch.

ugh, those chosen are terrible. Not only do they look bad in comparison to the current plastics, but the weapons are beyond huge, something which I had hoped had died with the 5th edition plastic chaos warriors. The unit champion is not too bad, although if you squint, you can see that he is clearly an orc in disguise. Where are the mutations, the varried weapons, etc? all they need is a bent spine to put us back to the old models.

Prince Sigvald is a nice looking miniature, aside from the horrible sword. Not sure how he fits into the rest of the Chaos line though, what with his comparatively fantasy armor, no fur cloak, and mincy loin cloth. If you told me he was an elf, I would belive it. That is not a good thing folks.

I can not decide if the wanderer is terrible, or if he only needs to have some details prunned away.

I love those chosen. Anyone want to trade heads for my chaos army?
EDIT: I hope that the mutation on the Champ doesnt come molded on, as that would suck. I agree that he looks like an ork, don't like him nearly as much as the regular chosen.

Are the Chosen getting a plastic or metal release?

blinky wrote:I love those chosen. Anyone want to trade heads for my chaos army?
EDIT: I hope that the mutation on the Champ doesnt come molded on, as that would suck. I agree that he looks like an ork, don't like him nearly as much as the regular chosen.

Are the Chosen getting a plastic or metal release?

Metal, so expect them to be pricy.

I belive that new plastics are the knights, marauders on horses, and the daemon prince.

As hoped, the Plastic Daemon Prince looks a LOT better when fully revealed...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4nzgPbHlNo4/SMrhGy4rJnI/AAAAAAAACUQ/ysGK8VvPpFA/s1600-h/daemon-prince-plastic-002.jpg

And yes, there are wings!

(Obviously!)

But still, Tzeentch isnt getting as much of a shaft because now there warriors, on top of already having a 4 up armour save (without shields) have a 6+ ward. GW seems to put less thought into khorne and basically go, "lets just do the easy thing, give em regular frenzy" approach too often. If it was cheap, it be great, but frenzy is never cheap. Looks like my fantasy's of TRULY making a khorne warrior the best in combat (like he should be) are gone again....better hope they have some d@mn good weapons and gifts to make up for it...

On another note, i agree with HBMC that the warriors were fine to begin with. And If they made the knights like the current chaos warriors on horses, that be good enough. IMO i think these ones look a bit like GW took everything the could think of and stuck it on the models. I mean the pole axe thing looks terrible.

Courtesy of Timjim on Thepainteddragon

As above

There is just something not right about the hair on the chaos hounds as ir runs up over the top of their heads, a lack of depth and detail the current ones have.
Otherwise a respectable plastic kit I guess.

Will need more angles to see the full chaosy goodness.

After seeing the chosen I'm suprised they haven't liked the chaos hound horns and stuck a skull between them...

The new warhounds make me a sad panda. The current metal ones really looked like they were designed by someone who knows animal physiology and knows how canines move. The new ones look like they were made by someone who had up until this point only sculpted or observed boars before.

Just plain horrible... maybe the hounds are on fire or something?...

Well, at least the Plastic Daemon Prince came out OK!

(The hounds truly are pants though...)

well, warrior and knights look ok.
not too keen on the chosen or th champs, one looks like an ork, other looks like an elf
love the new DP.
houns just look like crap though, reccomend using VC wolves
i think they will be cheaper and look much better.

JD21290 wrote:reccomend using VC wolves
i think they will be cheaper and look much better.

Quoted for truth...

The dire wolves kits looks much more chaosy than the chaos hounds.

Alpharius wrote:And yes, there are wings!

*happy dance*

WOOO!

BYE

Why are you so desperate for the wings H.B.M.C.?
Is it for bitz for other models or completeness to give all your daemon princes wings for 40k?

Yes I think they went too far on the warriors and knights. Ever since playing heroquest as a kid I've liked the look of those classic chaos warriors. I might hafta buy a box of the current warriors while I still can.

yea the current warriors are great as they are. id much rather see the same warriors with more parts added to em. Guess ill be ocnverting me own knights and chosen.... damit, GW takes something good and ruins it. Just like the hounds. If they made the same hounds except plastic it be so much better. These ones loom like the hiar cover there glowing eyes.

The knights look too busy.

The Demon Prince has potential.

They made the hounds look like the dogs from Willow.
Maybe they aren't that bad when you think of it like that.

Well I think so far except the on foot chosen everything looks great. THough I really want to see what happens to the foot Marauders.

Quoted for truth...

The dire wolves kits looks much more chaosy than the chaos hounds.

the VC ones are the best kit thats been made in a while.
(other than BR deffkoptas) just seem more evil than these ones.
quick Q. if any one would know;

is the war mammoth allowed in games?
at 600 points + crew and optional champ i think it could be amusing
allthough at LD5 (9 if using an exalted champ) i would end up having it run way :(

Hounds are like wargs but stupider looking.
Glad I still have my old 6th edition dogs.

(Damned if I know what to do with 'em, but I gots 'em).

Is it me or do the new Hounds look more like the "Sheep of Chaos" They just don't look like dogs to me.

Anyone know of another company's efforts at Chaos Hound like stuff?

You know, since GW consistently fails at it.

http://www.gamezoneminiatures.de/product_info.php/info/p192_Chaos-Hunde-II.html
http://www.gamezoneminiatures.de/product_info.php/info/p191_Chaos-Hunde-I.html

yeah,
the DP looks awesome... definently on my buy list.



PaniC...

Those hounds... what was the design brief, "Sheepdogs of Chaos"? They have no faces! Adding horns on top of that is just silly. I forsee sticking with my plastic goblin wolves.

Actually, I might very well paint them up as Dire Sheep, and use them in my Beastman army. Just need to greenstuff the feet into hooves.

Mounted knights, well, they seem busy, but they are plastic. Busy can be fixed. And you can never have enough heavy cav in a list that is light on shooting.
Foot Chosen, though... those suckers are metal, and they promise to cause hours of irritation trying to get them to rank up properly. Something tells me my list will not include any foot Chosen.

Daemon Prince- he is far and away better than the goofy metal daemon prince choices we currently have. I'll probably buy two, just for the modeling fun.

fell, use the VC wolves, cheaper and look better


BEWARE! the sheep of chaos

Chaos sheep - core choice

upgrade 1 sheep to a Ram for +10 points

Upgrade the whole unit to black sheep at +2 points per model (+1 attack)

may upgrade thier wooly coats to heavy wool for +2 points per model.

The Chaos Hounds count as a marital aid in New Zealand.

Otherwise, pretty cool stuff. I may use Sigvald Skwigelf as an Elf, or a Mordred stand in for my never-finished Evil Bretonnians.

Yeah, the 6th edition chaos hounds are better x10.

Most of the other stuff I like. I love the 6th edition knights (some of my favorite models currently). These new ones are good enough for their plastic replacements, though. I'll still use the old ones that I have if I actually start playing WHFB, though.

The foot chosen are nice. Not sure if I'd actually use them in a game or not though.

I like or really like pretty much everything so far except the hounds.

JD21290 wrote:may upgrade thier wooly coats to steel wool for +2 points per model.

Fixed that for ya

Gads, somebody really screwed the pooch on this hound kit. Sculpting skills reminscent of the chaos ogres

So the VC wolves are good now? All I remember was backlash about huge heads and huge gaps that had to be puttied on each dog ... But better than these sheep, yes!

- Salvage

Hehe thanks for that Salvage, I was thinking the same thing, but the lag I was getting on the site precluded my getting around to fixing it