Hi all

I'm in the process of completing a 50,000 point Apocalypse Force based on Ultramarines

I have almost all the minis and vehicles, have spent a while working on formation and fluff, now getting into build mode

Building first... then painting.

The Force...

Half Veteran Company (1st... as Terminators, considering Veteran squads as well)

Full Battle Company (still deciding between 2nd and 5th... I've got Masters of the Chapter and the new Sicarius fig creates a thought to convert his character into Galenus)

Full reserve Tac Company (6th)

Partial reserve Tac Company (7th)

Still to get Scout element (10th)

12x Landspeeders (2x Typhoon, 2x Tempest, 8x new model)

10x Dreadnoughts

2x Line Breaker Sqns

2x Fire Supression Force

2x Armoured Spearheads (plus a couple of extra LR)

10x Predator (Destructor / Anhilator)

Marneus Calgar and Honour Guard

Masters of the Chapter

Tigurius and Cassius

Techmarines (x3) and Servitors

Still to get Drop Pods (x10)

Still to get bike force (x5-10)

Projects include converting Black Reach Terminators and Dreadnoughts using existing individual boxed set weapons; converting Sicarius from Masters of the Chapter into Galenus; creating additional Honour Guard for the Marneus Galgar HQ formation; and a Terminator command squad; to start with.

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Out of interest, Do you actually have someone/a group to play this many points against

this is where things cross the line from hobby to illness...

It's awesome, but who are you gonna play against, and more importantly, how many hours are you going to spend assembling and painting?

Nice, looking forward to seeing it all assembled

I had played marines a lot in Epic, with the advent of LOTS of tanks as special deals for Apocalypse I chose to have an IG (Cadian) army.

I pre ordered all the Apocalypse bits and pieces (rules, templates, dice, etc); an IG Company deal, 6x Baneblades, 2x Basilisk bateries, an Emperors Fist LR tank Coy, 3x LR Demolishers, 3x Hellhounds, IG Codex, and I was set. The stuff from GW were great deals saving heaps, the majority from my local independant stockist were 25% off - more savings.

When it all arrived, I got greedy and hooked deaply into a full IG battlegroup (4 - 5 tank coys, a battalion (4 coys) comprised of 2 infantry coys, Iron Fist coy, Stormtrooper coy (Cadian Kasrkin), and god am I waiting for a plastic Valkyrie (I want at least 12).

So the main answer is... Me and my IG force (also 50K)

I'm a solo player from wayback... however, when friends come over - they don't have to bring anything.

I've made a lot of headway in build mode... painting IS going to take forever!!!!

Somebody has way too much money here...

I like it!

Sorry, forgot the pics...

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Sweet. I must have more pix.

More pics then...

10 boxes of AOBR
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Eye level view
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Armoured Spearhead in the making
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LR1, LR2, LR Terminus, LR Crusader
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http://s370.photobucket.com/albums/oo141/Karsrkinmik/100_0379.jpg

and to think I thought I was nuts with 3 companies of marines and one great company of space wolves.

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:

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Oooh, bon bons!

You sir are crazy...

like a fox!

Ozymandias, King of Kings

Ouch... that's out of context... that box holds my blister packs and MOTC and Calgar.

I'll have to change it for a more manly box now!

You must be rich and insane. I love it, good luck with the painting, I hope you don't get bogged down in it all!!

yeah,
Madness!
It's like a one man GamesDay display!
I really want to see this painted.
Panic

Panic wrote:I really want to see this painted.
Panic

My only reservation is that being Ultramarines would be just too much blue to look at in one go. Black Templars or Dark Angels would be easier on the eye.

Jawdropping, awesome and wonderfull all rolled into one.

I so wish you were my neighbour!! Id come over every day and help you assemble and paint. Id sort all your bits and clean your brushes. Id be your best friend and biggest fan! And now Im scaring myself...

Good luck and keep posting pics!

you are welcome anytime xedric

Just a long way to walk

When it comes time to paint.. I reccomend the Army Painter blue primer spray.. it's the perfect ultramarine blue color and it will help you get it all done a lot quicker. Between that spray and a good wash with some of the army painter washes you should be able to save a lot of painting time.

Good luck

Thanx for the comments guys... I'll keep you posted on progress

why is our economy low again?

Jacksonhighlander wrote:why is our economy low again?

Inflation, tariffs, poor civil rights and economic freedoms, high taxes to support those who give nothing back, and other stuff. Why do you ask?

That is downright the most unbelievable thing I have evr seen on this forum, ever. I'm serious, compared to all those Warhound projects etc, THIS is the most extreme.

How much did all this cost you!? And can you please post pictures of all the boxes? All of them? All those spearheard etc, I think those boxes would be more impressive lol or maybe all the sprues

Go Look up HBMC, he has around 50k points of Imp Guard for you to destroy.

That. . . was . . . AWESOME!

simply awe inspiring, I almost went insane having to do 30 tactical marines in a row - got me off space marines for a good few months, so yea . . . good luck
Wont take too long if you air brush em all ultramarines blue, then just gold n boltgun metal and if you can be bothered the eyes.

So 4 colours not including black each one will take only 4-5 minutes.

if you dont mind me asking, how much did that cost? $AUS

Bonbon box? with all your 40k? lol

Thats mind blowing, here i am having like two carry cases of models thinking man i have alot, and now seeing that, i feel left out, can you throw some money my way? lol

What a project!!! i love it. i wish i had the money for that ^^ keep posting

I kid you not - my local GW independant offered 25% off, plus Apocalypse specials, plus other specials - like buy 2 new Landspeeders and get one free (works out at 40% off)... I got 2x Tempest and 2x Typhoon FREE

Imperial Guard A$4000
Ultramarines A$3000
Still got about A$1000 to go yet
PLUS paint and green stuff!!!!

I got a good payout when our Company at work changed hands and my wife supports my bad habit... "so, if you want to" she says

The rest is HISTORY

When all is complete, I have a 12' x 6' game table (the pics show one third) I plan to line the Ultras against the Guard... sort of like the GW GD display "Battle for Macragge"... awesome

Aw..Come on!

Leave the Bon Bon box - it's allready gone

I'ts an Adidas box now... MORE MANLY

Don't you find it annoying that the AOBR guys are so hard to convert? Or are you happy that you can get so many delicious points so quickly (no slight intended)

Yes, I do aggree

My first thought, before I got them, was to convert a few, however - of course, it's almost impossible.

Some can be given diff weapons - Plasmaguns and the like, instead of Flame,etc.

My changes, though, are to mix-n-match the AOBR marines with the other marines ( Luckily I have "other marines" to play with).

You know, put Tom Cruise and Russell Crowe at the front of the gang... so they can't see the bald and fat extras in the back row. lol

Same with the Termies and Dreds... I plan to get some GW bitz weapons as well as a couple of legit boxes of Termies and Dreds for their alt weapons (such as Assault Termies have both Lightning Claws and Thunder Hammer sets for all 5 guys).

Here's hopeing anyway

Update

Now I'm working on the Rhino factory (and variants)

This means 8x Rhino, 1x razorback, 10x Predator, 6x Vindicator, and 5x Whirlwind... 30 in all (for this phase)

I'm working a production line building 5 at a time.

Sorry, same as with the LR, build now... paint later.

I'ts worth the wait

That's a nice amount of stuff. Our group is a bunch of crazed whackos, so we have similar sized armies. Friend of mine has 7 Companies of Marines, I've got 30K of Chaos and 30K of Guard (my 'smallest' full army is 8K of Necrons). Another friend has 30K of Eldar.

What structure is the Guard force going to have?

BYE

Can any of you guys post pics of these crazy sized armies? I'd like to blow my mind.

Holy Mother of God and all her whacky nephews!!

You sir, deserve respect!

Good luck with all the painting and assembling. My hat's off to you.

And please, keep the pics coming.

Courage and honour in your grand endeavors, Brother!

More Rhino Factory pics

Marine Minis


This is how I store them... in DVD racks, using DVD cases as shelves

This is my Ultramarine Force at the moment

Marine Force Boxes

This is my Imperial Guard Force at the moment

IG Force Boxes

This is where I'm up to in building IG

IG Minis




And the Leman Russ factory

H.B.M.C.

I would love to see any pics of your IG Force

Mik

and what do you do for a living?

Holy Emperor!

It does look an awful lot of stuff when you see it layed out like that!

Im a Security Officer in a full time perm site, however, I've recently earned a BA degree in Criminology and I am starting up a Security/Risk management Consulting firm - maybe another year away before fully operational.

As I've said before... no kids at home, brilliant wife, a bit of money keeps popping up now and again... we don't smoke, infrequent social drinkers, don't do pubs and clubs... we do have a huge DVD collection though - that keeps us busy, when I'm not doing this of course.

To answer the next question... I find the time coz I'm on a 4 days on, 4 days off roster - and my wife works 5/6 days a week.

This is hands-down my favourite Dakka thread of all time. I'm not even joking! I'm amazed!

Wow. That's a lot of boxes. That's a lot of Cadians.

I have about the same amount of Guard stuff, but more than 2/3rds of my infantry are metal (Cadians, Tallarns & Mordians - plus all the Heavy Weapon Platoons and Kasrkin).

BYE

At this point... Imperial Guard Force is 6x Baneblades, 9x Basilisk, 14x LR, 3x LR Demolishers, 3x Hellhounds, 10x Sentinels, 100x Kasrkin, almost 500x Cadians, over 60x heavy wpn teams, 12x command squads, 4x Company command squads, 5x Commissars.

Still to come 6x LR, 3x Hellhounds, 3x LR Demolishers, 15x Commissars, 17x Chimera, and 12x Plastic Valkyries. And one day - 3x Warhounds

And, yes... Thunderhawks too (when they are released in plastic)

Tell you what I don't envy you for - having to put all the tracks on the Russes and Chimeras.

I've done it for 31 Russ Hulls and 24 Chimera Hulls. Not fun.

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:Tell you what I don't envy you for - having to put all the tracks on the Russes and Chimeras.

I've done it for 31 Russ Hulls and 24 Chimera Hulls. Not fun.

BYE

Sounds to me HBMC is a little jealous that Castellan is getting attention for having a huge army while he's not

Now now... we will have none of that!

This forum is show and tell.. not shout and spit.

Nobody is perfect

I'm jealous of those that can paint without thinking

I'm envious of those that have FW Valkyries and Titans

I'm greedy as well, coz one day I will have it too

And I've got a big head at the moment coz you all are praising my efforts and wishing me well in my project

Attention is powerfull... The centre of attention is even more!

Behave on MY post

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:I'm envious of those that have FW Valkyries and Titans

Don't be. Soon the plastic Valkyrie will be with us and it will be 100% less annoying to put together.

BYE

Sorry I'm a bit out of the loop, but has the plastic Valkyrie been confirmed? If so, GW is coming with a very "crude" strategy of pushing for blatantly bigger battles so people are swept up in the propoganda and buy tons of minis.

But back OT, how "in depth" are you planning on painting these armies? I'd be amazed if you decide to go all out with highlights etc but I'd be disappointed if you went for a basic 4 colour no wash paint quality.

Can you also give us a more detailed run down on your pricing? How much did you get one of those Baneblades for? I can't quite make out the sticker in your pics.

And man, your FLGS must LOVE you!

(HMBC's pushin 4k posts now!)

And cheaper, and easier to build yeah, and can get more of them for the same money, and not as 'fragile' (ya know... good in a cabinet - cautious with constant manhandling) - from what I've read, and did I say cheaper?

Sorry to play town Marshal... don't forget the GW creed - fun, fun, fun... then kill em! (in a game... of course)

A$120 each

According to BOLS... Plastic Valkyries and others around May 2009 + new IG Codex... obviously we will see

I'm still working on the paint job... not the colours, but my ability.

Buy and build I can do

Fluff and research I can do

Convert and dioramas I can do

Painting intricate tiny tiny tiny details - ahhhhh

Again, I've been really out of the hobby for a while (and too lazy to find out for myself), but how much are they normally? Was the discount consistent throughout all your purchases or was it only for a few?

And finally, what was the store like when you bought all this stuff! If it had been the one I used to go to, the manager there would've been poppin corks for sure!

I shuffle and balance the costs and the frieght and the discounts from 4 different GW stores, 2 different States, 1 local stockist, and lately Scrapdragon mail order.

I have had aconstant run of 20 - 25% discount on almost all of the purchases (except for GW direct sales only - but they were 40 - 50% mega bundle deals anyway)

GW Baneblade is A$160

I can understand why you'd buy from different sources, but why 4 different GW stores? It's unheard of for an individual GW store to have a "sale" or differently priced minis isn't it?

GW Manager specials...

In one store I ordered the Direct only IG Company - I got 3x 10% vouchers and about A$50 worth of glues and undercoat spray.

In one store I bought the Marine Battle Company (RRP but a mega savings bundle non the less) and he sold me a Terminus LR for A$5.

In another store I was offered 1 free old Landspeeder if I bought 2 new ones - so I bought 8 and got 2 Typhoons an 2 Tempests for FREE

See... Look around and check for deals... its that easy

Sir... I salute you...

that said, could you spot me a LR or 2... or 3?

k.

Why?

Subscirb'd

Seriously, this is really awesome. Y'know, with the amount of money you've spent, you could've built a few Titan Legions

Subscirb'd

Seriously, this is really awesome. Y'know, with the amount of money you've spent, you could've built a few Titan Legions

may I have your daughter's hand in marraige. Or your son? I'm easy going.

Titan good... tanks better... lots a tanks awesome

Lots a tanks AND Titans... off the planet

One day!!!!

Hey Bolton... I'm Oldham

A long time ago

And.......... No

My three sons argue all the time... who is dad leaving it all to.

I told them I'm taking it all with me... an I'm getting cremated.

And I'm NOT adding more people to the mix

See, now there's another reason to visit Australia. The Great Barrier Reef, The outback, Sidney Oprea house, Your house

I think I'll have to charge addmission.

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:Holy Emperor!

It does look an awful lot of stuff when you see it layed out like that!

Im a Security Officer in a full time perm site, however, I've recently earned a BA degree in Criminology and I am starting up a Security/Risk management Consulting firm - maybe another year away before fully operational.

As I've said before... no kids at home, brilliant wife, a bit of money keeps popping up now and again... we don't smoke, infrequent social drinkers, don't do pubs and clubs... we do have a huge DVD collection though - that keeps us busy, when I'm not doing this of course.

To answer the next question... I find the time coz I'm on a 4 days on, 4 days off roster - and my wife works 5/6 days a week.

us security guards must have big armies and lots of time off for building and painting figs my gaming buddies think I am nuts I need to show them your posts.

You could charge people painting one marine for you to get in. You be done in no time!

Cheers sonofruss

I've actually done that type of thing before...

When I moved into a new house (way back) - and there was little landscaping done... so at the house warming I told all my guests to bring a piece a grass (sod, turf, etc) each and we filled in the patches.

WIP



3 down...

Amazing thread. I'm really interested to see how you progress with this, and how the painting goes. I also like your storage system. If I ever get a house with a basement, I'll have to look into something similar for storing my much more modest collection.

Hey oldham, Oldham here too, originally

It's good to see more sick in the head modelers out there ^_^. Your project is just the right kind of crazy that Dakka needs!

It would seem to fit better over in the P&M Blogs though, so I'm going to send it that way.

Really looking forward to seeing paint go on all these models o.o...

50K points of ultra's... Going insane at ludicrous speed! I wish you luck with the project though...

You need to convince a local school to teach painting as art, then give them a painting guide, tell em its part of thier GCSE's or A levels, and let them do the painting for you

He can come to my School and try to convince then

Hi to all in P&M Blogs

I'm new to blogs and I realised that I was in the wrong "room" but I didn't know how to move.

Hi, again

This sums up my initial reaction o.O ................................................ O.o

Aside fromt aking you an ungodly amount of time looks like it will be alot of fun.

I have played a number of 15-20k point games and they take on averege 4-6 hours depending on the armies.

How long does a 50k point game take to play??

Also if you buy me 48k points of Tau I will come over and play against you daily j/k or am I?

for once in my life blue is looking good

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:I'm in the process of completing a 50,000 point Apocalypse Force based on Ultramarines

That is too awesome.

I suggest that assembly-line is the only way to go on something this big. Also, plan to spray, detail, & wash, when you get around to painting.

Holy gak!!! Did you hijack the delivery truck?

Update







Now 5 done, another 5 ready to go

Necros wrote:When it comes time to paint.. I reccomend the Army Painter blue primer spray.. it's the perfect ultramarine blue color and it will help you get it all done a lot quicker. Between that spray and a good wash with some of the army painter washes you should be able to save a lot of painting time.

Good luck

Seconded!! This kind of solutions keep you alive.

And good sir, JUST DO IT!!! Fething awesome dedication and helping GW through the hard times too.

migsula wrote:And good sir, JUST DO IT!!! Fething awesome dedication and helping GW through the hard times too.

Haha, I think their stock just rose sharply after investors saw this thread ^_-.

grey, judging by some peoples reactions i dont think its just stock thats rising

that sounds pritty cool but i wonder, how much money are you spending on this project, suree its fun to go crazy some times but i think your going just a little over bored. But hey i could be wrong, just my oppinion.

Ultramarines is just over A$3000

Imperial Guard is A$4000

with about another A$1000 to go

When you have it... you decide what you spend it on and when

When you don't have it... you have to ask for it and then wait for them to give it to you

This project is a 20 year dream.. I have it

Apocalypse is not everyones cup of tea - some people still prefer coffee

Holy Mother Of God!

You sir, are mental. In the most fantastic and sublime of ways!

I thought I still had a lot of models to paint. I'm a relative newbie and 1000 points of orks seems like a lot. How wrong could I be?

Mind you, 50,000 points of Orks or Tyranids would be beyond a joke!

I think Jamsessionein must have somewhere approaching the tens of thousands of points of Orks, if you fancy lugging your armies over to his...

Keep up the great work and keep posting your progress, I think you've managed to hook us all into this one for the long haul!

It's been exactly a year since I bought my first Apocalypse minis and the research component has been most of it - working out what formation, who, how many... mainly the IG coz they are so huge, but Marines, although smaller, are even harder coz they are specific.

But, I've still got my heart in it and there is a very bright light at the end of the tunnel... it's just going to be crowded.

Well, you've got a heck of a lot of support from everyone on here! Keep going, we're with you all the way!

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:

When you have it... you decide what you spend it on and when

When you don't have it... you have to ask for it and then wait for them to give it to you

This project is a 20 year dream.. I have it

Apocalypse is not everyones cup of tea - some people still prefer coffee

AMEN to that! I like tea AND coffee.

and i cant wait tell they make a thunderfire apoc sheet you know they will

I'd be tempted to paint them using gravity and a bucket. Well done, that man.

Amen Brick wrote:I'd be tempted to paint them using gravity and a bucket. Well done, that man.

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:Ultramarines is just over A$3000
Imperial Guard is A$4000
with about another A$1000 to go

So A$8k total spend for 100k+ pts of stuff?

In "real" (i.e. U.S. ) Dollars, that's $5k USD spent

At $50 USD per 1000 pts. That's a helluva good points per dollar ratio. That's less than what we pay for a Battleforce, but more points out of it.

lol well if thats what your dream is, then go for it. Just tell me how it goes.

awesome. when i get my titans finished I'll have to come visit

Update...

10 Predators done








In their own storage system


Next 5... Rhino's from the Battle Company

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:10 Predators done

No sponsons?

BYE

As with the Land Raiders, sponson weapons are to be painted first.

Weapon fitout is...

Destructor x4
Autocannon with Heavy Bolter sponsons

Annihlator x6
Twin linked Lascannon with Lascannon sponsons

Wow...you...are....insane! (in a good way)

I purchase my GW products from my LGS at 30% off, and online at 30% off. (makes it a lot easier on me wallet.)
But I would never even dare to buy THIS much.. I would go insane filing the mold lines...then.."THE PAINTING!"

*play horror music* *rolls on the floor with plastic space marine bits stuck to my face*

I salute you for your efforts, sir.

Now.

1) Do you actually bother with cleaning the mold lines? (its rather important to me. For others it is not.)
Or do you prefer a robust paint job to draw away attention?

If I ever travel to Austrailia I'll try and play at as many GW's that I can in hopes that I'll find a store so full of tanks.. its standing room only!
2) After reading the blog, I assume you only game at your residents?

3) Do you have any tips for us "skirmish" level gamers on building/modelling?

Please try and answer as many questions as you like.
Thanks.

-RedSarge.

H.B.M.C is from Austrailia too!? You Aussies are crazy when it comes to armies!

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:Ultramarines is just over A$3000
Imperial Guard is A$4000
with about another A$1000 to go

So A$8k total spend for 100k+ pts of stuff?

In "real" (i.e. U.S. ) Dollars, that's $5k USD spent

At $50 USD per 1000 pts. That's a helluva good points per dollar ratio. That's less than what we pay for a Battleforce, but more points out of it.

Actually at the time of purchase, that would have been about US$7000. The last 30 days has seen the aussie dollar fall from US$0.90 to about US$0.62. !! :(

1) Every single @#%& one is removed (to the best of my ability) sometimes I have to stop far a few days so my cut fingers can heal some.
I'm hoping for a GW new look in painting finish.

2) When I was playing Epic, we used my big rumpus room and my big table... it was the space that motivated us.

For FOC 40K, I have played at home, at the club, at GW... but I'm not into GD, GT, Tournies, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I love the work... too many restrictions for me.

As for Apocalypse, the GW tables are really too small and there's always heaps of people trying to play as well (fielding their FOC 1500 point contribution). Hey, I'm not complaining, not every player is as nuts as me on a spend holiday, it's fun to watch, but painful to play in that scene. Also, I like to control the WHOLE army on the battle field - my tactics (work or not). So, we play at home a lot - huge room, huge table, AND they don't have to bring anything if they don't want to.

3) Building/modelling tips - yes, but that WIP will have to take it's turn.

And to answer your final comment...

3 sailors are walking along Sydney Harbour Bridge after a nite on the town... and they need to urinate.

So they are standing in the middle of the bridge, "hanging over the edge"... urinating.

The Canadian says... "It's a big city, but back home they are bigger"

The American says... "It's a big bridge, but back home they are bigger"

And the Australian says... "Jeez fellas, the water is cold!"

Don't you agree H.B.M.C.?

Wow.... you already have where I hope to be in several years time...

Are you on Northside or Soutside of Brisbane and did you go to Orktoberfest last weekend?

I'm on Northside at Everton Hills.

Southside at Woodridge

Update...



5 more done - 1 Razorback and 4 APCs

Still more to do - 15 down, 15 to go

Update...

Last 4 APCs from the Battle Company


Predators, APCs and Razorback in their storage system


Whirlwinds and Vindicators next

love it!
wouldnt mind helping you put all those together either

Man.... that is awsome. You could like play your entire FLGS and still oupoint them...

Update...

5 Whirlwinds ready to go

dumbuket wrote:this is where things cross the line from hobby to illness...

Agreed

hey...
if and when you get around to painting...
you may have heard of it, but army painter products are pretty much made for projects like this...
(actually, probably projects a fraction of the size, but they still work...)
they have a spray paint base coat that when used with the dip the make, it makes perfect ultra marines armor color in the fraction of the time it normally takes...

you just spray with the blue primer, base color things like chest seals, guns, eyes, un-helmeted heads, etc...
then dip em


www.thearmypainter.com i believe it is

Update...

I meant to explain what I meant by "Tank Factory" and "Rhino Factory" earlier.
This is the Factory style of assembling multiple similar models at the same time

5 Whirlwinds ready to go

Stage 1: Cut all required parts from sprue and layout on work space - place unused pieces in Bitz box


Stage 2: Trim, then trial assemble, then glue the basic hull


Stage 3: Trim, then trial assemble top plate (Do not glue yet)


Stage 4: Trim, then trial assembly, then glue the hull sides
This is a unique way to hold multiple kits in a gluing clamp (Work bench)


Stage 5: Assemble top plate onto hull (Do not glue yet)
5 Whirlwinds done: 3x Vengeance Payload, 2x Castellan payload


Stage 6: Assemble weapon system if applicable (Do not glue until painted)
Completed Whirlwind - This piece is held together with bluetac


The reason for not gluing just yet is so final detail painting can be done easily

Next... 6x Vindicators (In 4 days time - back to work tomorrow)

Thanx for the well wishes and motivation so far

Mik

An interesting approach to tank building, and probably the only one that makes sense when working on a grand scale. I still think that this project will slowly drive you mad though! Keep up the inspiring work!

Awe inspiring, absolutely awe inspiring.

this is indeed as inspiring as it is nuts.
BUT I WANNE SEE SOME PAINT!!!!!!!!!

Indeed! PAINT!

haha
by the looks of all these people that want you to paint, you should start shipping out pieces to people that want to help lol

i'd be more than happy to paint up a whole chapter if paint is supplied

JD: I think you are unique then...

If i'm painting a 1000 marines...they better be mine, or I better be getting paid a hell of a lot of money.

Hi all

I'm trying to work out a wish list to start some conversions...

Can anyone tell me the weapon fitouts for the Dreadnought and Terminators boxed sets.

Please give Right hand / Left hand options.

Thanks

I'm stunned by this post.

Good luck.....

Dreadnought box

Right Hand: Lascannon, Assault Cannon
left Hand: Close Combat Weapon with Storm Bolter or Heavy Flamer, Missile Launcher

Not sure what comes in termies and you already have the multi melta arms from AOBR.

I think my first initial thoughts went something like this:
Wow. This is an amazing undertaking. I should do something similar. Wait. The girlfriend would be pissed if I spent that much time doing 40k stuff. He must not have a girlfriend. Poor . Stupid girlfriend. Wonder if we could trade. What am I thinking? Girlfriend is awesome. She does things little plastic soldiers can't. Awesome girlfriend. And she's a good cook. Poor . Must not have a girlfriend. What an amazing project....

Hi Asmodeus... Mate, have I got bad news for you...

Not only do I have all this 40K stuff AND the time to spend with it... but also have the money to continue in this insane fantastic way... AND...

MY girlfiend / partner truly IS awsome in that she understands my affliction, pampers my insanity, and really really understands my addiction and compulsion to continue and expand this project...

She also encourages me to utilise extra space in the house... My stuff is set up in the basement and she suggested that I set up my "Factory" in the lounge room...

On top of ALL that... she is a FANTASTIC cook and awesome provider... she is always topping up my drinks and bringing me snacks... and wait... there IS more...

She also does fantastic things that little plastic soldiers can't... What an amazing life!

Mik

On top of ALL that... she is a FANTASTIC cook and awesome provider... she is always topping up my drinks and bringing me snacks... and wait... there IS more...

She also does fantastic things that little plastic soldiers can't...

I'll trade you a company of Ultramarines for her!

oblivion, i prefer to paint things in bulk, it will take me weeks to paint a tac squad as ill just put it off.
if i have 4-5 tac squads they will be done in under a week.

Sorry GCMandrake, I wouldn't trade her... even if you were Calgar himself.

I know which side of my bread is buttered.

Mik

Here we go...

Vindicators x6

So I'm looking at all this armour and...

I was thinking of one hellova Armoured Spearhead...

8 Landraiders, 10 Pedators, 1 Razorback, 8 Rhinos... 20 Termies and a full Battle Company

Fire support from the Dreads, Whirlwinds and Vindicators...

And for the "soffen up"... 30 Termies teleport in

What do you think... overkill... or just KILL...

And then a full Battle Company lands by Drop Pod

There is no overkill, there is only losing, winning, and REALLY winning.

Overkill is only the beginning...

BYE

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:Hi Asmodeus... Mate, have I got bad news for you...

Not only do I have all this 40K stuff AND the time to spend with it... but also have the money to continue in this insane fantastic way... AND...

MY girlfiend / partner truly IS awsome in that she understands my affliction, pampers my insanity, and really really understands my addiction and compulsion to continue and expand this project...

She also encourages me to utilise extra space in the house... My stuff is set up in the basement and she suggested that I set up my "Factory" in the lounge room...

On top of ALL that... she is a FANTASTIC cook and awesome provider... she is always topping up my drinks and bringing me snacks... and wait... there IS more...

She also does fantastic things that little plastic soldiers can't... What an amazing life!

Mik

Lol. Wanna trade? Mine's good enough about letting me do my hobby, but I think she'd flip if I dropped that much cash at once. It's more of a little bit here, large purchase there kind of thing.

Hi all, I was asked about the AOBR Ork Waagh that I had...

2x bands of 60 Boyz each and 1x band of 80 Boyz, 30 Defcopters, a Warboss and bodyguard of Nobz













And of course all the Bosses look the same... for now

I don't envy you at all with the amount of painting that needs to be done.

Other Than that I'm pretty sure your collection takes the cake, the whole damn thing.

You're single-handedly keeping Britain out of economic depression for now, but it WON'T BE ENOUGH!

Update...

3x Finished Vindicators



Only 3x left to go

Your AOBR orks make a pretty impressive army in their own right! And if you ever need more cash to increase your marine army (a ludicrous idea, but then you don't seem to need much encouragement...), eBaying your orks will give large piles of money for more tanks!

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:Hi Asmodeus... Mate, have I got bad news for you...

Not only do I have all this 40K stuff AND the time to spend with it... but also have the money to continue in this insane fantastic way... AND...

MY girlfiend / partner truly IS awsome in that she understands my affliction, pampers my insanity, and really really understands my addiction and compulsion to continue and expand this project...

She also encourages me to utilise extra space in the house... My stuff is set up in the basement and she suggested that I set up my "Factory" in the lounge room...

On top of ALL that... she is a FANTASTIC cook and awesome provider... she is always topping up my drinks and bringing me snacks... and wait... there IS more...

She also does fantastic things that little plastic soldiers can't... What an amazing life!

Mik

This tale is made of pure and simple Win!

I, too have a woman who understands the power of the dollies.

your mad i tell you,mad!
but in a good way.

Update...

Last 3x Vindicators done... at last




All Marine vehicles done


What next - painting vehicles or making a Battle Company... What do YOU think?

I would paint the tanks before moving on myself just to get something completed

keep it up! But I would love to see some painting

I'd go with the painting myself, so that you have some portion of the humungaloid army painted. But, you did originally say that all assembly was coming first....

Yep, paint it is... undercoat - spray on, looking at base coat spray on, possibly wash spray on, touch up fine details... looking at the GW spray gun

All new, this painting thing - last thing I painted was Epic Marines.

I'll see how it all goes, step at a time... and keep you guys advised of course

Well, if the last thing you painted was epic, just think of your current force as being the same. The scale is the same, even if the scale isn't the same!

(Two meanings, scale vs scale, do you see what I did there? )

Yes I got it... a Company is still a Company and 30 Rhino's is still 30 Rhino's

Wowsers....Aside from the whole Space marine chapter in Notts HQ I have never seen an army so big in all my life. Impressive work and dedication to an Army...

You should definitely invest in a quality airbrush to base coat these if you haven't already. I wouldn't bother with the GW, get a quality brush and your own air compressor, by the end of the process you will have saved money by not buying $8 of AIR in a CAN.

Need some advice guys...

I've been reading up about painting UM's and I've come across multiple versions all from GW sources

The base colour has been indicated as UM Blue OR Regal Blue OR (the new Foudation colour) Mordian Blue

WHICH is the Ultramarines colour

I know one answer is... whatever colour that YOU want to paint them

BUT... why are there differences... Comments please

Mik

BLUE

From the options given...

Regal blue undercoat.
UM blue highlights.

Thanks mate... I like the sound of that combination

Any clues as for the many different options offered by GW (other than a reason to sell new paint colours of course)

I'm sure that they found their previous paints faulty-example too thin or didnt coat in layers well-and just decided to mix differently with cheaper materials to make a quick buck. And by make a quick buck I mean do what's best for the customer, paint and whatnot.

There's always more than one reason

I would think you would save money using the Mordian Blue but you would probably have do that then the Regal followed by Ultra that was already stated. (THe foundation paints go a longer way with the air brush because of their thickness they have to be watered down more with not much of a loss in colour.)

Hi all

Sorry for the missing life

I've been buying more stuff... I'm waiting for delivery

On the way is a spray gun, GW Mega Paint set, rare earth magnets, and 2x Realm of Battle

My wife still worships me (athough I worship her more), the basement is getting crowded, and...

I'm doing this project right... I'm taking your support, comments and advice (amused by any negativity), and taking my time to ensure an excellent result.

I"M NOT EXPECTING A GD RESULT... but it will be awsome to see all that blue

Thankx again and be patient... I'm still here

Mik

I wasn't expecting a GD result either. Funny that. Nevertheless, especially since I live fairly close to Brisbane, I certainly hope you intend to showcase this army one day.

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:Hi Asmodeus... Mate, have I got bad news for you...

Not only do I have all this 40K stuff AND the time to spend with it... but also have the money to continue in this insane fantastic way... AND...

MY girlfiend / partner truly IS awsome in that she understands my affliction, pampers my insanity, and really really understands my addiction and compulsion to continue and expand this project...

She also encourages me to utilise extra space in the house... My stuff is set up in the basement and she suggested that I set up my "Factory" in the lounge room...

On top of ALL that... she is a FANTASTIC cook and awesome provider... she is always topping up my drinks and bringing me snacks... and wait... there IS more...

She also does fantastic things that little plastic soldiers can't... What an amazing life!

Mik

may i ask where you got the money for all this then? you'd have to work, and either be a millioniare, an hier to one, a husband to an hier, or possibly...just possibly...a damn good doctor.

Damnation, that's good lookin' stuff.

Investing in an airbrush is definitely a very good idea.

And you really, really must face off against HBMC at some point.

Oh, and with all that armor, maybe a couple thunderhawk transporters are a good idea?

Man I calculated my apoc points up 20000+ pts without my wolves but with space wolf thunder hawk. The thunder hawk needs to be finished. The interior is painted need a air flamer for the outside. Get a badger air brush adapter for a compresser and you don't need canned air.

as i said before, you may want to consider Army Painted products...

Still waiting for the painting components to be delivered, however, the rare earth magnets have arrived

So while I'm waiting...

I was asked why I only had 1 Razorback (the answer being only one came with the Battle Company box), but it made me think...

I've got 30 Rhino variants and if I used RE magnets on side hatches (predator sponsons) and roof panels (predator and whirlwind turret mount panels) I could interchange them as required... with a few spare bitz, I can present 30 Rhino's or 5 Razorbacks at the pull of a magnet.

I believe that I have enough varieties of Predator (Annhilator/Destructor) and sponson fitouts (HB or Lascannon) to not worry about a need for swap over with RE mounts on these.

Question though, for you RE experienced lot... do you use plastic glue or super glue to affix them in place?

I will be starting right away and pix will follow as before.

Mik

First RE magnet mock up is working very well... in fact I'm stunned how well

My plan is to convert a number of my Predators and Whirlwinds into Rhino's as required

I will magnetise the sponson panel to be interchanged with a magnetised Rhino side panel, and magnetise the roof access panel to interchange with a Rhino roof panel or a Razorback roof panel.

They will give me Rhino's and a Razorback to transport my second Battle Company, instead of Drop Pods, as required

Unfortunatelly, my camera is playing up with close up shots - too blured

Good pix to follow ASAP

Mik

I'm holding my breath.

Update...

Not really happy with pix though

For the side hatch, a hole was partially drilled (not all the way through) then the RE magnets x2 placed partly in holes (they stick up a bit)

For the sponson plate, a hole was drilled all the way through then the RE magnets x2 placed fully in holes flush on the inside rim (sticks out on the outside a bit) otherwise the panel would not fit in position



A hole was drilled all the way through through the side edge of the hatch frame then the RE magnets x2 placed fully in holes flush on the inside rim (sticks out on the outside a bit) otherwise the panel would not fit in position



RE magnet in place from the outside



RE magnet in place from the inside

Cool. That's a good plan.

My brain is completely recoiling in fear of trying to get my Tyranids up to 50K points.

Hive Tyrant with Tyrant Guard: 300 points.

194 broods of Spineguants without number, full 32 units per brood = 6208 Gaunts.

With about 50 points left over. Maybe throw in a single Biovore.

I just read your entire avatar, and it was funny, matt.

If I were you, I'd start by throwing in a hierophant...

Little update...

Paint delivery has been delayed... now Dec 7

RE conversions going along well... 6x Predators now done

That leaves 4 Predators and 5 Whirlwinds left, should only take a couple of days

Then I'm setting my table back up (12' x 6') ready for the RoB gameboards

Mik

Nice job man, that is a lot of rhinos. Your rhino rush will look like a zurg rush lol.

Hi,
I just registered here on dakkadakka to reply to this thread. What an enormous project

I refuse to think you may not be able to do this. I have seen some people doing ver ygood quality in a good time.
You may know the warseer site.
There in the scifi logs forum a user named Bulldog UK does an army called Crimson Ultrawings. He has tons of stuff aswell, maybe not as much as you plan, but who does so anyway?
However, this guy uses a spraying technique. And then some highlighting. This stuff actually has top quality, though done very fast.
You should check it out. If you are interested, I provide the link, if that bloody site will ever let me in again

Cheers to you mate, and may your motivation never fail you!

Bart

Thank You Warflag... yes, that kind of painting plan is what I intend to use.

Thanks again for your interest

Motivation will never be a problem... although my wife supports me 100% - if I stop befor its all done... I will be 100% dead - she promises!!

Good girl

But I guess, if I bought that much stuff and let it rot in the closet, I´d be 100% dead too...

Share some of those techniques, if you don´t mind. I´m very much interested, how this works. I personally am more of a detail freak.
My work usually takes ages.

Cheers
Bart

Usually my reaction would be ewwwww Ultramarines. But this is brilliant, i dont think this would work with any other chapter, i just cant imagine a crimson fist 50k force or an imperial fist one.

I would go with a lighter blue than Regal. I use it quite a lot for my Dwarves in LOTR, and it's fairly dark, too dark I would say for Ultramarines. Perahps Enchanted Blue with Ultramarines blue highlights?

yeah, i use regal for my night lords and its a little dark.

Hello? Lord Castellan? Where are you?

You're devoted masses kindly request updates and piccies....

Sorry guys... I am alive and the WIP is still rolling

I've had heaps of problems this last couple of weeks...

- Too much 'required' overtime at work

- Problems with my camera, it has issues with closeups

- My partner has been off work sick

- If you watch Australian news headlines, where I am has been under severe thunder storms for over three weeks now... we have flooded twice and all my stuff has been moved around... and my space has been occupied with wet stuff drying

So, sorry again for no update... but definately still on

A couple of good things though... I've got my paints and spray guns... and 2x Realm battleboards.

I'm also revamping my table... It got dammaged in the flooding... 4 inches of flowing river over the basement floor!!!

I WILL post as soon as I have anything ready

Thanks again guys

Mik

Sorry to hear about the hardship you, and the other people in Australia are experiencing, hope everything clears up soon. Hope nothing got seriously damaged in the flooding. Luckily unpainted models just need to dry!

That is more figs than i have ever seen. EVER. I will admit that I quite jealous of you for that. But at the same time I feel sorry for you because unless you have a factory of people willing to work for free, you will spend almost a year painting all that.

P.S.
If you ever decide to get rid of an army, let me know.

I know I'm performing threadomancy, but I was just wondering if you've made any progress yet? I, like many others, relished updates to this inspirational thread and would love to see how you're getting on....

Is it just me, or does looking at all the sheer amount of that army makes you also want to buy more ><

Hello don't forget about us who are waiting for updates.

Just a quick one...

The old table consisted of a beat up table tennis table with bat wing legs where you could fold half up for 'play back' games.

I got 3 off 8' x 4' half inch ply boards and cut them down to 6' x 4', then I edged them similar to the TT table.

The 2 end boards had edging along 3 sides and slid over the edge of the TT table, the middle board had edging along 2 sides and joined the 2 ends together as a 12' x 6' top board.

http://s370.photobucket.com/albums/oo141/Karsrkinmik/?action=view¤t=100_0446.jpg Check out ALL my WIP pics at Photobucket



The new table is the same size (12' x 6'), however, is alot stronger and more importantly... level




Mik

And more...

Using a number of 2' x 2' MDF tiles as the building base for CoD or other terrain...


And using two sets of Realm of Battle Gameboards

Arrangement 1:RoB down both sides - River / roadway / pipeline setup


Arrangement 2: Rob at one end - City / fortress


Arrangement 3: RoB encircling - Outpost / mission objective


And many more arrangements are possible - I have 12 tiles of RoB and 18 MDF tiles (at the moment).

Table wise... I have a design plan to add an edge around the table to create a lip that holds the tiles in place.

Mik

Where's the paint though???

Dude, that is amazing! You're living the dream.

You must tell me one thing though, how are you able to get all this stuff and keep your partner from leaving you? My wife barely puts up with my two games cases of Nids and I've had a ban on a games table imposed on me until we move to a bigger house (which will be never on my salary ).

Wannabe Writer, if you read the thread, he's answered this question many times. Apparently his missus is just super understanding and actively encouraging. He wins.

Castellan, please keep the updates coming. This is the most inspiring thread on Dakka and you've managed to get a lot of people hooked. We're all in for the long haul!

ive been waiting for this update for a while...
very awesome board
that will be a wonder when its finished

keep us updated!

Feck me that table is huge. Kicks more ass than a ten-legged man (Shut up James!).

Good grief. Seen the new WD it just might have more models in the pics for the battle report. Just possibly. Theres also a polish guy who did a chapter but he owned a gamestore. Wow and good luck.

HOLY SHAT!

3 GW tables. Keep the updates coming. I'm really looking forward to see how this turns out.

My god man. I just looked at your 125 pictures on photobucket. I'm visibly shaken, lol.

Highlights of what I saw....6 baneblade boxes, 3 basilisks, 10 dreads, battle company of Black Reach marines, and a helluva lot more.

I bow at the size of this project.

HHHOOOLLLYYY CCCRRRR******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i thought my 4500+pts of Space Marines, Eldar, Tau and some IG tanks was impressive..this is just scary...hmm maybe you should have gone and made a Titan Legion....

Will you marry me?

Necros wrote:Will you marry me?

Gheeeyyy...

(not that there's anything wrong with it if you actually are, mind)

Hi all

Thanks for the continued support... I know that it's a bit slow, but I am still here and ongoing

Necros (and others) sorry, NO

I've been thinking lately... should I break this WIP up into three... I'm thinking...

WIP Ultramarines
WIP Imperial Guard
WIP Games Table

I really would like YOUR opinion on this, MODs as well please

Mik

P.S. And paint will flow soon enough... be patient with me

i think its fine as one...
makes it easy for everyone to see what your up to with out having to scope out 3 different threads...
just put it all here!

Keep it as one.

One uber-thread!

One giant one please, easier to follow it that way.

That Table is Ghakkin HUGE. I can actually see a problem with reaching minis in the center you might have to pull out one of those military strategist sticks and a monocle to reach them.

Amazing! You should do a chapter at this point!

New TITLE for the thread...

Now it sums up the three parts

Mik

You should consider a psychiatrist.

No, I don't think so...

No time available

No money left

And the few brain cells left are playing 40K

Mik

I want to know what you do for a living, or if you still live at home, what your parents do for a living.

Awesome collection.

- Human wrote:I want to know what you do for a living, or if you still live at home, what your parents do for a living.

Awesome collection.

What does it matter what he does for a living? If you read this blog he has security job and his wife works full time.

He's enjoying a dream.

Just an idea.

... You know some day you will have to play this... (dramatic pause) against an entire store. You might want to get a few dozen guys to help you field it though lol. This is amazing and you have truly inspired me... to spend all of my money of models instead of my new car... thanks

Question: Are you gonna get a Forge World Trench system to inlay into the terrain? Cause it would look sweet with those Trenches cut into one of the hills...

What does it matter what he does for a living? If you read this blog he has security job and his wife works full time.

It was out of interest, and more to do with my praise of his grand collection.

ChristmasKironor wrote:That is downright the most unbelievable thing I have evr seen on this forum, ever. I'm serious, compared to all those Warhound projects etc, THIS is the most extreme.

What he said x2

Your a sick sick sick man Well done

Yeh....

Wow, my eyes are playing tricks on me i thought i just saw 50k of guard and space marines nah that would be crazy ...

As it has been said by others... answers to my background have been given through out the thread and I will only add to this if new stuff comes to light, no need to keep repeating old posts... it bores the young and scares the old.

That said... I thank you for any interest in my life and madness affliction.

Trenches on RoB... I'ts funny you bring that up...

I have a plan for a trench system that utilises the height of RoB hills (about 2") and 2" thick blue foam sheets.

If you can imagine (coz I haven't done it yet) the foam tiles continue the same height and contours as the Rob tile... and has a trench system cut into IT.

I also plan to do similar with urban / city themed tiles

That is until they bring out new RoB tiles...

I believe that additional city and trench tiles will follow, as well as road and river tiles... ONE DAY.

But until then... I (like many others) will make my own.

Mik

This is a remarkable project! I just want to commend your effort and dedication, while still maintaining a family life. It's incredible.

I would definitely be willing to lend you a hand for the sake of this massive project reaching its completion.

I must apologise to you all...

I have repeatedly not answered “My Life” questions and stated that it’s already in the thread…

No it’s not…

I just read through my entire thread, and it’s not answered your questions… I have confused myself, I am on a few different sites and I thought I had answered these questions on this site….

I’ve decided to break up my story into a few posts… one reason is to avoid a large chunk of reading (I’ve seen some examples on other threads and it seems to make the read disjointed and requires a lot of attention to stay focused.)

Another reason is for paragraph breaks… each post is a paragraph and a different part of the story (more or less), again done for an easier read.

It is not done to build up my posts or pages coz I’m sooo close to ‘X’ amount… nor is it done to keep my thread at the top for a while longer (I’ve actually written the posts elsewhere and I am just copy / pasting quick as I can), so in effect it is the equivalent of just 1 or 2 normal posts.

So, unless you have seen me on these other sites, then here is some background info…

Mik

My Past (part 1)

I was in the Armoured Corps (Army Reserve) as a M113 APC crewman. When I became a crew commander, tactics were often worked out using a scale model table. 300th scale micro armour vehicles were used and the table was created to match a local training area. The setup was two 20' x 8' tables, which represented about 25 km of map terrain. I got hooked and bought my own micro armour force both modern and WWII.

I now wanted some infantry to go with my APCs. The available stuff at the time was a wisp of metal on a stick and useless to me. That is until I found a box of Epic Eldar infantry. I now had my infantry after a bit of converting. There was a booklet in the box advertising the Warhammer 40K world and within a year I had packed away my micro armour and converted fully to Epic.

In those days of Epic (Space Marine 2nd ed), I had over 15 Companies of Ultramarines and Space Wolves plus Titans (3 Imperator, 12 Warlord, 8 Warhound, 18 Knights), lots of armour (over 50 vehicles including Baneblades) plus medium forces of Orcs, Eldar, Squats, Chaos and IG. I used to play on an old table tennis table (9' x 5'). I still have every piece.

I started with one Epic Space Marine 2nd ed, then I got Titanicus, then 3x Titan Legions, then I acquired another Space Marine 2nd ed.

I have 3 boys and they wanted to get into 40K, so I decided that Epic was a little difficult for all of them (ages 6 - 10 at the time) so I got 2x Space Crusade to introduce them to the world of 40K.

They loved it, so within a year I got one 40K 2nd ed for them and one for me. They lived interstate with their mother... So we all played when I had access. Since then, all 3 have been playing and have their own armies, and all are very heavily into networked DOW.

I've still got the original sets at my place... I don't throw anything out. Except ex wives... some know what I mean.

Mik

My Past (part 2)

I dabbled in 40K in the 2nd ed era as well as Space Crusade and Space Hulk. But I loved the Company and Battle group formations and lots of armour in Epic.

I eventually got into 40K 4th ed and at the same time read about Apocalypse - coming soon... Damn, I had some spare money and my mind went ballistic. Lucky for me I have an understanding wife, a big house, and the kids have all left home. A plan for possible divorce and bankruptcy was hatched

I was born in the UK... To be precise, Oldham, part of Greater Manchester, however, I call Australia home… Sounds like a couple of song titles

And I'm NOT insane... I'm GREEDY, I'm greedy and hungry for power... to rule the world, the universe... the entire 40K world… Sorry... no, I just love collecting

Mik

The Plan (part 1)

I had played marines a lot in Epic, with the advent of LOTS of tanks as special deals for Apocalypse I chose to have an IG (Cadian) army.

I pre ordered all the Apocalypse bits and pieces (rules, templates, dice, etc); an IG Company deal, 6x Baneblades, 2x Basilisk batteries, an Emperors Fist LR tank Coy, 3x LR Demolishers, 3x Hellhounds, IG Codex, and I was set. The stuff from GW was great deals saving heaps, the majority from my local independent stockist were 25% off - more savings.

When it all arrived, I got greedy and hooked deeply into a full IG Battle group (4 - 5 tank Coys, an Infantry Battalion (4 Coys) comprised of 2 basic infantry Coys, Mechanised (Iron Fist) coy, Stormtrooper coy (Cadian Kasrkin), and god am I waiting for a plastic Valkyrie (I want at least 12).

So I started cleaning, clipping sorting, storing, and eventually building my IG army. Then, my job changed hands, we all stayed working for the new company, then we got a hell of a termination payout. My wallet was armed and of to GW... for a look at IG extras... I went.

The Space Marine Battle Company box was a direct sales only item, so they couldn't tempt me, and I was happy with my IG army. Then I turned around and there was a Battle Coy box sitting on the floor.

Begging me to buy it.

Mik

The plan (part 2)

The IG army was easy planning - lots of stuff, 2 Companies of this, 3 Companies of that, multiples of everything.
But marines are different... as you all know so well. I chose Ultramarines, because I like codex chapters, I love the Roman and Greek influences, I find the restrictive confines a blessing - coz you are dealing with a gigantic admin system which confers a realistic military approach - you can not just do what you want.

Of course GW built in that option if you want to take that path... however I choose not to - I feel that you have to use strategy and tactics instead of point stacking. But as I've said before that's my choice - it's my game.

This is another reason for my madness... I have enough room, more or less enough spare cash, and enough figs to form TWO Apocalypse size forces - I'm also an experienced solo player - I can play two different tactical forces, and have for years.

My old table tennis table was a bit small for Apocalypse, so I got 3 ply boards 6' x 4' and placed them on top which now gives me a new 12' x 6' table. The room is a rumpus room about 20' square... TONS of room.

Then Assault for Black Reach was advertised. <DELETED BY THE INQUISITION>... I needed some Terminators and Dreadnoughts, so I worked out the math, organised my formations, checked out the savings - 25% off an already unbelievable deal. So I bought 10 boxes.

Next on my list is some Terminator and Dreadnought weapon bits from GW and I can convert some distinction into my new 100 Tactical Marines and 50 Terminators as well as close to 100 other marines from the past incarnations.

Next problem: now I have an Ork army - 50 Nob, 200 Boyz, 30 Defcopters. Now I need some Ork bits and pieces for my third Apocalypse force.

Mik

The plan (part 3)

This is a breakdown of what Ultramarines I've got, not yet got, and need to convert / create…

Chapter Master Marneus Calgar and his Honor Guard... I like the new command formation and will be adding more Honor Guard

Masters of the Chapter... As I said earlier; the new Sicarius fig creates a thought to convert his character into Galenus for the 5th Battle Company - 2nd and 4th have great fluff but I want something I can create as well

Tigurius and Cassius... I want to give them both Command squads as they will be Chapter specific IC groups

Techmarines... I have the full harness direct sales fig and the boxed set; I want a few (5-10) single servo TM (to go with the 1 I have); I have a thought to create a Tech Cult component - Skitari, Magos, converted vehicles, etc

5th Coy: full strength Battle Company

I've got over 150 more Tactical Marines (Black Reach and older incarnations)... I am considering adding a few Assault and Dev squads to create 2 more Battle Coy (under strength) - 1 being a drop pod formation, the other in home world / off world bastion defence mode (my IG force would be PD) along with Chapter Armoury vehicles

I've still to get a Scout force... Sgt Telion with about 30-50 scouts (sniper, bike, speeder configurations)

1st Company... Terminators - I have 50 from Black Reach, if I get heavy weapon and CC bits from GW then I can convert some differences into the squads.

Dreadnoughts... Same as above, I have 10 all the same. If I get another couple I could se the multiple weapon options to change a few. Also, I know that the consensus is 3 or 4 per Company; however, I have provided options for multiple Coy and the use of the Chapter Armoury.

Vehicles... With the addition of Sgt Chronos, most of the formations will be attached to Coys and Chapter Armoury defence.

Now I have to convert a few coz they look all the same... diff weapon here, diff accessories there, and so on.

The rest of my Ultras are going to be stock standard - very large quantity of reasonable figs is Apocalypse - FOC and tourney figs are few and excellent quality on the other hand. I'm still working out the org and formations that I want to include.

Mik

The Plan (Part 4)

And my Imperial Guard…

I went with Cadians coz I like Creed and the “Starship Troopers” look alike army. They are also the closest to real life military, which I also love.

Armour: At this point... 6x Baneblades, 6x Basilisk, 14x LR, 3x LR Demolishers, 3x Hellhounds, 10x Sentinels: Still to come 6x LR, 3x Hellhounds, 3x LR Demolishers, and 17x Chimera.

I also want to make a Super Heavy Regiment… at least 4 Companies, so, around 6x Shadowswords are on the list

Troops: 100x Kasrkin, almost 500x Cadians, over 90x heavy weapon teams, 12x command squads, 4x Company command squads, 5x Commissars; Still to come 15x Commissars.

I liked the idea of a modern Battle group, which has elements of Infantry, Armour, Artillery, and so on, to be able to respond to any situation and still be under one command. It is also something like a US Marines structure.

As a bonus…12x Plastic Valkyries soon… And one day - 3x Warhounds

Mik

Rational and Justification

I like the idea of Campaigns, you know: WYSIWYG; from planet fall to win; so, all the forces would be in a few continuous games - or one game with a lot of turns. I already have an equal size opponent – ME.

Fluff and research I'm brilliant at, building I'm very good at, converting I'm good at, and painting this size (I'm used to Epic remember)…well, I've got to learn - and stop start per squad is not a learning curve for me. I have not been known for painting of any standard before, so I'm going to try at first... I have a couple of local club friends who are willing to step in (for a modest fee of course) if I fail the grade... after all, I still want them to look good.

MY prior painting skills are virtually non existent... I played Epic, mostly unpainted, for years, and back then (2ed) all the weapons were red and the paint was so thickly applied... I just didn't like the look - so I didn't bother. However, the paint jobs now are truly incredible and I think I might have a chance to emulate at least a decent standard. (I would be very happy with "not bad"). The painting side is actually scarier for me than the money or the building.

So, where do I store everything… When I started collecting DVDs, I went with the ‘pop out’ rack system... but, and I know this will surprise you, I went overboard and the collection got huge - HUGE, and I changed over to a drawer system (more DVDs, less space).

I thought of my minis almost right away and did a quick test - yes, 3 high is perfect (except for big flags and banners) and you can stand them on a shelf or table or wall mount them and hold minis or vehicles... pretty much perfect.

And before anyone asks... HUGE means 1000 movies and a lot of TV seasons - all up 5000+ discs (all bought - no burns)
I think I may have a problem when it comes to collecting things... OH NO... I'm a Collection Addict!!!

Mik

The Cost

I always add up the dollars - before I spend more, I need to work out the savings, etc. Knowing the actual cost, the RRP, the savings, other prices (on eBay, etc), all add to the enjoyment... Sooooo much stuff for sooooo little $$$

Spending so far: Imperial Guard A$4000, Ultramarines A$3000, and I’ve still got about A$1000 for each to go yet, PLUS paint and green stuff!!!! This doesn’t include my new games table or two Realm of Battle sets, nor plans to enlarge my Ork force.

I shuffle and balance the costs and the freight and the discounts from 4 different GW stores, 2 different States, 1 local stockist, and lately Scrapdragon mail order.

My local GW independent offered 25% off, plus Apocalypse specials, plus other specials...I also use Scrapdragon (an internet store, which also is 25% off), and I'm also on the lookout for GW Manager specials...

In one store I ordered the Direct only IG Company - I got 3x 10% vouchers and about A$50 worth of glues and undercoat spray.

In one store I bought the Marine Battle Company (RRP but a mega savings bundle none the less) and then he sold me a Terminus LR for A$5.

In another store I was offered 1 free old Landspeeder if I bought 2 new ones - so I bought 8 and got 2 Typhoons an 2 Tempests for FREE

Actually, one of my best overall savings was AOBR, where I needed Termies and Dreds... so I bought 10x boxes of em. (at A$75 each)… This gave me 50 Termies, 10 Dreds plus a full Tac Company... AND a third army... ORKS: 50 Nobs, 200 Boyz, and 30 Def Copters

I got a good payout when our Company at work changed hands, and my wife supports my bad habit... "so, if you want to" she says… The rest is HISTORY

Mik

The Scale of Task

I don’t think that this WIP is too much work or distracting to my lifestyle, as you see from the LR factory, I love production line... I wholeheartedly agree that it is a daunting task, and a challenge. I have invited you all into my dream... I could have kept it to myself, but I thought that if I am awestruck by the sheer magnitude, then how would others feel.

I have the minis now and I'm not giving them back, nor am I leaving them to the many followers who want me to adopt them... however, I'm also not stupid (insane yes), nor do I intend to waste any money by not following through with this project. Truly, only time will tell... either way, I very glad that I undertook this WIP and many well wishers agree.

I know that by doing it my way, you guys only get to see half finished stuff for a while... but the end will come to those who wait.

I thank you all for your support, observations and comments, it all keeps me honest and determined to produce a finished product that not only will I be proud, but I hope that all of you out there are too.

Mik

So there you have it...

My life in a few minutes

I can't think of any more questions that you can ask me

Except of course... where's the paint or pics

Mik

I missed a bit

I’m a Security Officer in a full time perm site, however, I've recently earned a BA degree in Criminology and I am starting up a Security/Risk management Consulting firm - maybe another year or two away before fully operational.

As I've said before... no kids at home, brilliant wife, a bit of money keeps popping up now and again... we don't smoke, infrequent social drinkers, don't do pubs and clubs... we do have a huge DVD collection though - that keeps us busy, when I'm not doing this of course.

To answer the next question... I find the time coz I'm on a 4 days on, 4 days off roster - and my wife works 5/6 days a week.

My wife truly IS awesome, in that she understands my affliction, pampers my insanity, and really really understands my addiction and compulsion to continue and expand this project...

She also encourages me to utilise extra space in the house... My stuff is set up in the basement and she suggested that I set up my "Factory" in the lounge room...

On top of ALL that... she is a FANTASTIC cook and awesome provider... she is always topping up my drinks and bringing me snacks... and wait... there IS more...

She also does fantastic things to me that little plastic soldiers can't... What an amazing life!

In all honesty, I only have to convince myself and my wife that what I am undertaking is fun.

Please believe me when I tell you all... critics, cynics, jealous, and others... I am having the time of my life AND my wife supports me totally, I suppose that means that we are both mad... but loving it.

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:I missed a bit

I’m a Security Officer in a full time perm site, however, I've recently earned a BA degree in Criminology and I am starting up a Security/Risk management Consulting firm - maybe another year or two away before fully operational.

As I've said before... no kids at home, brilliant wife, a bit of money keeps popping up now and again... we don't smoke, infrequent social drinkers, don't do pubs and clubs... we do have a huge DVD collection though - that keeps us busy, when I'm not doing this of course.

To answer the next question... I find the time coz I'm on a 4 days on, 4 days off roster - and my wife works 5/6 days a week.

My wife truly IS awesome, in that she understands my affliction, pampers my insanity, and really really understands my addiction and compulsion to continue and expand this project...

She also encourages me to utilise extra space in the house... My stuff is set up in the basement and she suggested that I set up my "Factory" in the lounge room...

On top of ALL that... she is a FANTASTIC cook and awesome provider... she is always topping up my drinks and bringing me snacks... and wait... there IS more...

She also does fantastic things to me that little plastic soldiers can't... What an amazing life!

In all honesty, I only have to convince myself and my wife that what I am undertaking is fun.

Please believe me when I tell you all... critics, cynics, jealous, and others... I am having the time of my life AND my wife supports me totally, I suppose that means that we are both mad... but loving it.

with all that in mind.... when are you going to get around to the truly monstrous task of PAINTING all of this plastic? that's what I really want to know.

Believe me... very very soon now

I thank you for your patience... everybody

Good Luck! Looks like you're going to need it!

Good Luck! Looks like you're going to need it!

Could we have a picture of all of the stuff you've assembled to this date? If possible, one photo with everything on it would be great!

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:Aw..Come on!

Leave the Bon Bon box - it's allready gone

I'ts an Adidas box now... MORE MANLY

haha addidas = modern manly symbol, used to becon women from afar.

you are a superb man, if i had the money id probably do the same, although i couldn't paint them all the same

one thing assured.................

you will I REPEAT WILL "HATE" ULTRAMARINES AFTER! lol

This thread and its contents is built from awesome... you weren't kidding when you said you like to collect! This will be one 'eck of an impressive sight once it's done up too...

Get lots and lots and lots of ultra blue paint poor it into a big mixing container before you paint then mix it together.
I may have 4 companies of marines but they are from different chapters so not the same colors.
Army painter might help a lot with the initial base paint.
Good luck.

Yes, the Army Painter blue spray primer is perfect for ultramarines. Will save you a lot of time You could also use the dark green one for your imperial guard too.

I don't suppose you could tell me where the orks from AOBR went?
Anyways, NICE ARMY, keep it up.

They are sitting on the shelf next to the rest of the WIP... waiting for my decision... To sell / trade OR to be added to... still thinking

Mik

abuh... abuh... *dies*

Wow man, simply incredible. QLD now has another tourist attraction. Movie World, Sea World, Dream World, the GBR, and now, your house!

Mik.
You have the potential to be the most awesome person on this site with one thing to think about.
A 100k Ork force to pit against both the combined might of the Guard and the Ultramarines.

And invest in a really, really good airbrush. You won't regret it with this kind of task Especially if you get one that can be used for batch shading and weathering for tanks.

you earned your blood angels degree? lol sorry, just saw the little abbreviation reference...

anyway, i think everyone is itching for some new wip pics!

Yeah, thanks Krusty... The Ultramarine degree was all booked out at the time... Those abreviation dropdowns "pop up" at the strangest of times, and for any of you who are confused... BA means - Batchelor of Arts Undergraduate Degree.

There goes that drop down again

And... PATIENCE

Mik

Threadomancy? Probably.
Worth it? Definitely.
Updates wanted by the screaming masses? Hell yes!

Come on Mik. We've all been patient and are now champing at the bit for you to bestow your innate awesomeness upon us.

Pretty please?

Yeah! What Inyoka said!

Well Uhhhh Can I have some mister? Seriously how can you play that with anything less than 25 good friends?

I really wanna know whats going on with this...

I hate you so much..... so much. I have like 3k in IG and I thought I was bad. My old boss at a gamestore has 20k in Marines and I thought he was bad.... you just god damn. Sir I salute you I have tipped my hat and kissed your ring I wish I had the money for all that. If you ever need to get rid of any of that I'll take some off your hands.

Fairly sure I have a job because of this man I'm working on a road project between Newark and Nottingham obviously to help ship the copious quantities of miniatures being ordered by people like this!

Dead thread? Shame!!! :( :(

Dead???

Not a chance...

I've built a couple of Baneblades and magnetised them to become Hellhammers... camera broke, pix to follow soon

I've scored another set of Banblade turret sprues and am designing a Stormhammer... thinking of using a Shadowsword hull... in the pix from Epic days, the Stormhammer lookes more like it than it does a baneblade hull (rear deck is further back

My Warhound Titans are moving along nicely... working on pin hinges for the toes

I've started back on making a couple more IG figs (only a few out of 500 owned)

For those that remember my plight... having a mate as a border... well he finally left a couple of weeks ago and I'm getting my games room back together

DEAD... over my dead body mate

Slow yes... dead never

Mik

Simply... insane

THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL , WHAT SACRES ME MORE IS YOU ARE MARRIED! THAT'S ON SPECIAL UNDERSTANDING WOMAN.
I LIKE TO THINK MY WIFE KEEP MY FEET ION THE GROUND NOW AND AGAIN!

trench.one wrote:THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL , WHAT SACRES ME MORE IS YOU ARE MARRIED! THAT'S ON SPECIAL UNDERSTANDING WOMAN.
I LIKE TO THINK MY WIFE KEEP MY FEET ION THE GROUND NOW AND AGAIN!

There is no need to shout here

You........ are.............. mad.

can't wait to see the results though!

Mik's not dead. Long live Mik!

But Mik, come on, you know the rules, we demand photos!

This is turning into the chan...
"Pics or it didn't happen!"

Wait a second, did I just read : Warhound Titans???

As if the 50k of everything wasn't enough. Just found this thread today and I can't wait to see all of this come together.

Regarding the painting, forget the GW paintgun and get a solid airbrush kit, such as an Iwata dual-action hooked up to a Studio compressor. Yes it costs about 500$ without any discounts (which knowing you I'm sure you'll find a deal for anyways) but it'll save you so much time painting it's rediculous.

I can already picture you setting up a clothesline in the back shed so you can hang and paint 10 vehicles at a time

Keep up the dream,

Dark_Gear

Wow. Just wow. It's 4am, and I just woke my gf up to show her this thread. Even she's impressed, and she dosen't even have any interest in 40k. I'm now kicking myself in the for selling my army. Keep it up man.

Mik,
You must be the sole reason why GW makes 40% of its total profit on Space Marine sales.

Disjointed Entity wrote:This is turning into the chan...
"Pics or it didn't happen!"

There are pics in this thread lots of pics

i only have 2 predators, 4 razor backs, 3 rhinos (one is unbuilt), 2 land raiders, and 1 vindicator you have me beat by 30!

Wow, I am beyond jelous, I was watching you're other thread(which I thought was dead) and found this one. Most impressive.

................... :O

Just to show that I’m still alive… this progress took nearly six months though

Thanks for being patient





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As usual... I build three at once








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I've been taking photos using a borowed camera and saving them on a SD card





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as usual... once I build the first three, then comes the other three





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It took a lot longer to complete my Baneblade tank factory this time, but as you can see... it still works





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And there you are... six Baneblades.... waiting for the magnets to enable swap to six Hellhammers... or whatever mix





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As you can see, I've magnetised the first one... main gun and all sponsons

I bought three sets of extra sponsons so that now I can do any combination... times three of course

say tuned for more... as soon as I am able

and before you ask... the Titans are waiting for magnets... more on them soon as well... on the other thread off course

CYA soon guys and thanks for the support as always

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And for the girl friends / wives out there... my wife let me leave this work in progress set up in the lounge room (insert front room or sitting room) for the entire six months

Mik

This will be incredible when completed.

100,000 points is just insane!

Thats it, I've gotta finish my titan legion and come vist australia. luckly my girlfriend has family there i can claim thats the reason were going

Mik, it may have taken six months for the next post, but it's worth it to know you're still alive and continuing this most awesome of threads!

You're still the Apoc-Daddy!

Keep 'em coming, now you've started....

Pfft!

Only 6 Baneblades?

Frickin' lightweight!

Ya know that a lot more is on the way

I like the idea of a super heavy tank battalion as well as you do... I just don't like the Macharius style like you do

I also love Valkaries, Vendetta, Vultures as well... they will eventuate one day as well

One thing is certain... all will come to those that wait patiently

more to come, mate... Hows the weather in Sydney, it's crazy in Brisbane, all over the place

Mik

Raining, but warm at night... it's odd.

The good news is I'll finally be building my Valks in a couple of weeks. Even got some Vendetta conversion kits. Had I any money, I'd've got a quartet of Vultures to go with 'em, but that'll have to wait.

My Super Heavy tank battalion will comprise of the following companies:

(1) Stormhammer x1, Baneblade x2 (Battlefield Support)

(2) Hellhammer x1, Baneblade x2 (Battlefield Support)

(3) Shadowsword x1, Stormblade x2 (Titan Hunter)

(4) Stormsword x1, Hellhammer x2 (Urban/Seige Support)

How is yours set up

Mik

Great stuff, I love the idea, the scale and the courage to do something that big - keep up the work.

I'll be following this from a safe distance - lest I can't resist the urge to join in

I can't believe how many figures that must be!!!

Stunning!!

All I can say.

Madman! Six Baneblades? You must be off your nut.

How much have you spent on this so far? I dread to think...

Oh my sweet madness. I could have sworn I was looking at a WWII era assembly line the way you have everything laid out. Quite an impressive site. Cant wait for more.

It's awesome to see an purpose built apocalypse army, I just bulk out my normal 2000 point guard list with 5000 points of Titans.

Lord Castellan Mik wrote:How is yours set up

I did mine in the same way as a Leman Russ Company is 3 squadrons of 3, plus a Command vehicle, except in this case a Squadron of 3 Super-Heavies counts as a whole Company, therefore 3 Companies + 1 Command Superheavy = 1 Battalion:

Battalion Command - Baneblade

1st Company Command - Hellhammer
1st Company Tank A - Baneblade
1st Company Tank B - Baneblade

2nd Company Command - Stormblade
2nd Company Tank A - Shadow Sword
2nd Company Tank B - Shadow Sword

3rd Company Command - Macharius (Vanquisher)
3rd Company Tank A - Macharius (Vulcan)
3rd Company Tank B - Macharius (Vanilla)

Update 2011…

The bad part…

My father finally passed away after being eaten alive over the last 12 months by multiple types of cancers. He went from 100kg to 45kg before our eyes and suffered indignity after indignity… even your worst enemy doesn’t deserve Cancer.

If you are able, please donate to your local Cancer Fund and help find cures soon… it is an insidious disease, which attacks all ages and doesn’t care how much money you have.

The good part…

I now have two more grandchildren, number 6 and 7… and number 8 is due in Nov. Unfortunately only 4 are in Brisbane, the rest are in South Australia (over 2000km away).

The best part…

My youngest son, Troy, recently came to visit for a couple of weeks and he is an avid 40K player… IG, Tyranids, Grey Knights, to name a few… and he assembled and painted some of my metal Ultramarine characters for me.

I have collected the following characters… and their status:

Calgar… painted
Honour Guard… painted
Tigurius… painted
Cassius… painted
Master of the Forge – Collectors Techmarine… undercoated
Chronos (standing)… painted
Chronos (in cupola)… not started yet
1st Company Commander – Terminator Captain… not started yet
Terminator Chaplain – as 1st Company… not started yet
Terminator Librarian – as 1st Company… not started yet
2nd Company Commander – Capt Sicarius… painted
Generic Chaplain – as 2nd Company… painted
3rd Company Commander – Master of the Arsenal… painted
4th Company Commander – Master of the Fleet… painted
5th Company Commander – using Master of the Watch… painted (transferred from MOTC 2nd Company because I have the actual Sicarius mini) Now Master of the Marches
10th Company Commander – Master of the Recruits… painted
Telion… painted

I can’t take all the credit for painting… in fact I can’t take any credit at all… I just bought the minis; Troy did all the work. And as such, I do not ask for any critical comments since the painter is back in Adelaide – however, I will listen to suggestions for future pieces and will pass on all your comments to Troy.
We both know that there are a few missing things… gun barrels not drilled, the Chapter Banner not finished (no Tyranid at his feet, no details in the fringes), bases not finished… and a few more.

Also… he hasn’t given me a detailed method of his painting scheme… but this will follow soon.

For the patient members… paint has arrived to this thread – but don’t expect too much more soon, but it will come… so enjoy

Mik



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Hang in there Castellan , we are here for you atleast!

More highlights and washes

















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Status so far… and all for now

Calgar

Honour Guard




Tigurius

Cassius

2nd Company Chaplain

Chronos

Telion

2nd Company Commander

3rd Company Commander

4th Company Commander

5th Company Commander

10th Company Commander

Troy


Thanks son

Mik