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:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/04 20:14:29


Post by: migsula


We are Legion

They needed to find him and find him they did. Didn’t feel that way now, did it. It was fething cold, the humidity of the earlier thunder rains was whisked around by the brisk sea wind flowing through the forgotten docklands. The full moon cast a pale, icy glare that froze the shadows of the stand off.

There he was, in rugged civilian clothes, armed with a brace of pistols, Sgt. Jargassor, whom all needed to find - the least of their concerns now.
The entire hunt team had their retinas transfixed on the massive being next to him. A dozen weapons of different make pointed at him for what little difference it made. Standing two and a half meters, a god of war, clad in a huge suit of armor the color of night, the giant stared back, immoveable like a statue, yet radiating explosiveness like an unstable flux core reactor.

The wind turned only to punctuate the stalemate.

‘I am Alpharius, We are Legion‘ The giant announced in a distinctive, flowing, silky, yet authoritarian voice.







As I am increasingly becoming aware of myself as an artist, it is becoming increasingly difficult to stay on track so to speak - or rather immensely liberating to just go where the inspiration takes me.

I've compared Shades of Greye and now Alpharius to my E and A GD entry and the new works is so far out there in my own opinion. Yet the more enjoyment I seem to find and the more I find my place within the hobby, the less urge I have to go to a GD. (Unless to meet great friends of course )

So here's my next project for =I=munda. A new Warband small in numbers but big in presence. If I frankly considered Shades of Grey pretty raw, now I've decided to through out all the rules and just paint the way I feel I must and not be afraid of color. The project is inspired by Dainton's art as always, the Legion book and the pale, chilling light of the Moon.

Just so happens Hammer is running a Genestealer Cult themed Imunda campaign that should be kicking of after Jade Vessel. It is perfectly poised to live in a symbiotic relationship with my artistic urges and imagination.

Here are very, very WIP pics of Sgt Jargassor and Ghuul, the faceless wizard + alpharius WIP for those who might've missed him.









:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/04 20:33:14


Post by: Malika2


Oh my this is going to be cool!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/04 20:39:05


Post by: smiling Assassin


Oh dear God, cool.

~sA


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/04 20:47:52


Post by: Malika2


By the way, what model is that "faceless wizard"?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/04 20:49:19


Post by: SonsOfLoki


by the unholy makeup of slanesh that's cool!!!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/04 21:12:40


Post by: Pfreck


Malika2 wrote:By the way, what model is that "faceless wizard"?

I think it's the one based around the Empire Wizard, so the right one.


Good to see another blog from you, Migsula. I'm really looking forward how this develops - especially because Alpharius turned out so good!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/04 22:01:42


Post by: CMDante


Sweet, more Migs goodness!

Not sure about the good Sarge's feet, think he could do with some proper boots instead of slippers. Good use of the marksman head though, I'm keeping my one like that for an admech conversion for my "good" gang which is increasingly looking like being at least 2 "good" gangs, one ad mech, one =I=.

On a side note, how do you find your titan princeps model for size next to a regular 28mm mini? I got a FW enginseer today and even his base isn't the right size, he's a good few mm's smaller in scale than all regular gw mini's. God only knows why the made the torso and legs attached to the base too, such a pain to remove but almost necessary given the difference in base size.

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/04 22:49:03


Post by: grey_death


Should be a great thing to watch progress ^_^.

I agree sarge's legs/feet seem a bit...off. Some proper fatigues/boots sculpted over them should give the right feel. But I'm definitely interested in hearing your ideas for him.

Wizard kit is proving it's usefulness yet again in your hands. Northern and Hammer both have great conversions based off the kit, now to see what another Fin does to make me want to go buy the damned kit...

You guys really make it hard not to just go out and buy up tons of models and start kitbashing the hell out of them!!!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/05 00:36:37


Post by: lasgunpacker


Agree with the others that the sarge needs some work to his feet. Possibly a side buckle? certainly within your abilities, and it ties in with the cadian boots.

Looking forward to seeing progress on this new warband!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/05 16:33:18


Post by: migsula


Hey guys, like I said, very very wip Boots and possibly knee pads on the way, lots and lots of detail, bags and pouches etc.

I'm about to start working on them, so pics again tomorrow or so. Thanks for all the comments.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/05 18:29:00


Post by: Azog


Migs, you make me sad. Very sad. I am totally in fascination with your projects. I wish I were half as good at envisioning a conversion and properly executing on it.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/05 19:12:57


Post by: migsula


Azog - sorry man! I'm afraid the plan is to keep you quite sad in the future too. I do hope you get some tips and ideas and whatnot that are also useful and fun to try out




:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/05 19:13:42


Post by: migsula


Progress. I sculpted some boots. Still needs a layer of detail work. I added tiny rivets to the shoulder guard and worked a staff for the Psyker, who is also getting mechadendrites with "flect" mirrors! Pictures tomorrow.

At times I struggle with the amount of ideas that pour into my head - it's a lot of editing to not make a mess with all the "cool ideas" toppling a strong concept.

This band is going to be 4 or 5 models max. So I will take my time and enjoy it. I do want it done by the end of the year, so I can enter the new campaign with a ready gang and concentrate on extras like vehicles etc


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/05 19:30:17


Post by: CMDante


Interesting, what vehicles do you have planned?

I totally agree about the ideas thing, I find I'm the same, even more so after viewing your logs!

As always, looking forward to more.

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/05 19:34:51


Post by: migsula


CMDante wrote:
On a side note, how do you find your titan princeps model for size next to a regular 28mm mini? I got a FW enginseer today and even his base isn't the right size, he's a good few mm's smaller in scale than all regular gw mini's. God only knows why the made the torso and legs attached to the base too, such a pain to remove but almost necessary given the difference in base size.

Cheers,

Dante


I find the size very pleasing - thinner and more correct than say a cadian, but not too small either. The base is a bitch as you say. I love the model, but still haven't found the window to paint it.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/05 19:39:14


Post by: migsula


CMDante wrote:Interesting, what vehicles do you have planned?


A Big ass truck for Shaddes Offe Greye, built from the new Ork BW. A really gothic and rugged affair. Then a 6wheeler Land Rover equivalent for generic campaign use and a converted speeder from the Tau piranha kit for Jargassor's use. Still don't know which order, but the 6 wheeler I've started.

Then a Valkyrie of course, and a super heavily converted Thunderhawk for Alpharius if the plastic becomes a reality... you know the deal, endless plans


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/05 20:23:13


Post by: smiling Assassin


Ahh. The endless plans involving air support popping up in one's mind nowadays. I had to run a check on how much a force of 12 Plastic Stormtroopers and 14 Valks would run up. Not good. Downsizing. Downsizing now.

But yeah, everything sounds incredibly awesome in the planning phase.

GO! GO! GO!

~sA


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/05 20:33:00


Post by: insaniak


Quite possibly the best scaled-up Marine I've seen. Nice work as always


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/05 20:41:46


Post by: smiling Assassin


(Side Note: WARNING! Babies WERE CONSUMED during the Creation of Alpharius!)

~sA


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/06 06:49:37


Post by: Lint


I absolutely love the Alpharius model, it remains one of my favorites! I just wanted to say, keep up the incredible work, and I look forward to seeing the rest of the gang.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/06 10:43:55


Post by: migsula


I'm posting more pics tonight when I get home from work...which might mean late. It does take a lot of tweaking and trying, to get these ones right. I want them to be just right and have a strong impact individually and as a group. Having started working, I've added an extra layer of focus and decided these models will be entirely plastic and GS, no metal models or parts or even guitar wire.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/06 21:15:41


Post by: migsula


Okay here's some progress.

A LONG way off still, but I will keep sharing the stuff as I go.

Jargassor: First phase of boots done, still looking bland and stiff for now detail going in here and there. I added super tiny rivets on the shoulder guard. I am still considering adding a second shoulder guard, but I also like the feel of the one sided pad, which will have small hydra icon. I think he needs pistol holsters too.

The Psyker: Wizard kit glues very smoothly, the left side in the second pic is smoothed with a sharp knife and file and the right still shows the over flow of glue I use to get a totally seamless connection. You can see the melted face now too, which will be painted to appear like his face is psychically veiled from view. I was torn using a Tyranid skull - as that would tie into the next campaign, but then decided for a human skull as I intend to make a second model from the wizard kit who is all about the nid hunting. The mechadendrite arm poing out from his waist will get a tiny mirror that the psyker uses as a flect.





I'm really looking forward to painting them, as that really and obviously is the deciding factor. It will be a challenge to include enough of Alpharius feel for a unified group, yet highlight the individualism. Now that I am using a lot of rich blues and hints of yellow and green, it's a bigger challenge than the sombre and by saturation alone unified looking Shaddes offe Greye.




:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/06 21:27:38


Post by: Beowulf


good progress, like how they are both slowly taking shape, as ever your work is very inspiring btw, what model is Jargassor's head from?

keep it up


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/06 21:41:19


Post by: CMDante


I believe its from the empire plastic handgunners sprue, the marksman head.

The wizard is a cool representation of the attache from Legion. Interested to see how you paint the face.

What do you have in mind for the colour scheme? I can see the sarge in a light grey or beige uniform with navy blue armour and trim etc. Do you plan on filling the cloth seam lines up the back of him or are you leaving them as is?

I think the boots look maybe a touch thick at the ankles at the moment (unless your planning the cadian style braces?) they could certainly use some creases to define the stance a little and add detail but I'm guessing this comes in the next stage? I sometimes find it easier to begin defining where the creases will be in the early stages as its much easier to get the depth right.

Top notch stuff, can't wait to see them with the detail added!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/07 05:38:32


Post by: migsula


Yes that's the head + Some shaving done and new detail added.

Dante - Agree on the boots, Actually the reason why there are no visible creases at ankle level is that the GS there is a super thin layer. I find it easier to go smooth first, then cut away what I need and sculpt some shape on. If I try to shape too thin gs, it lifts off the gs where I don't want to. In this case the ankles at the front will be a tricky place to do such small detail shape, but I will try and thne upper parts will get some more detain.

Color scheme vice I will tick to cool grey and blues, with some natural beige browns, not yello browns, but sort of greengrey browns and a hint of yellow showing through as green and posssibly some purple touches on the Psyker.. But there needs to be a fair bit of saturation to have the same vibrancy as Alpharius has - which is VERY different to how Shaddes offe Greye look.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/07 05:48:43


Post by: migsula


One more thing that came up with friends about issues I and they share about Jargassors head:

That is the issue. It's not even an issue with most bionic heads, but this one has a round projection behind it really outlining where exactly the model is looking at.

I'm thinking of ways to fix it and think I have the solution.

No issue that doesn't work is minor or meaningless to me the fun is to solve them.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/07 06:55:37


Post by: Flachzange


Its crazy how much thought & detail you put into each and every one of these guys. For example, the mirror/ flect idea. What an awesome idea and a unique touch. Or the falxe on Alpharius.

Everybody is getting so much detail and their own story. Thats what really makes the shaddes offe greye such an awesome project.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/07 11:26:12


Post by: Malika2


What kind of rules are you planning on using to represent Alpharius in your games?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/07 19:00:26


Post by: migsula


Ok,Thanks for the comments. I took apart the entire bionic eye, shaved and fine tuned and glued back together so it looks right and much more refined at the same time. More 40k less FB aswell. A fairly careful operation I must add

I also glued on some nice sci-fi detail to the boots. I'll work on the psyker a little more and the post pics of both. I may end up using a real mirroring surface for the flect - so gluing it after prime and then try adding some interest with very thin ink streaks.

Malika -that'll have to wait as I need to fine tune the details with the GMs Sickbunny and Hammer and then I don't know if the stats can be shared as the whole campaign team visits dakka.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/09 21:12:13


Post by: migsula


Some smoothing, more detail and then primer! And finally get to paint these. Busy RL times ahead, so it may take a while. Saw my brother today and he is making an Eldar Star Strider team for the campaign.




:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/09 22:06:37


Post by: CMDante


Looks good mate!

Does the sarges holster strap go across his chest at any point like it does across his back? A close up of the face would be cool to see what you've done to the bionic eye.

Also, whats planned for the right hand of the wizard? At the moment its hard to tell from the pics but it looks like hes pointing?

Looking forward to more from you!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/10 18:12:37


Post by: migsula


Thanks Dante,

No it's one of those detective type of holster straps. I'll try to get it to painting stage and get close ups when the eye area is more defined.

The right arm is currently pointing, it was initially casting a force, but then it looked too aggressive for the feel I want for it.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/10 18:41:11


Post by: grey_death


The work on the head paid off. That pose works perfectly now. It's amazing what a small detail can change.

Nice work.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/12 21:23:13


Post by: migsula


Need to take a little brake on the project - moving to a new home and painting walls and floors instead Happyjoyjoy, proper space for games too!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/12 21:37:31


Post by: grey_death


Enjoy the move ^_^. I'd help, but well...it's a tad bit far >.>...


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/12 21:57:13


Post by: CMDante


Will you be drybrushing or blending the highlig....

Good luck with the move and hope you enjoy the new home and settle quickly so we can see some more of this fantastic stuff with paint on it!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/13 10:29:34


Post by: Pfreck


Congrats on the move, Migs! I hope you're done moving quick, because I can't wait for the next update!

I really like the 2 new members of the gang, I'm also very keen to see your take on the assassin!

I've got a question regarding the bases though, I know you spray everything white in your gangs, the bases + the mini's. Though, what colours do you use to paint them? Also, do you use wall-filler to fill the gaps between the pieces of scrap/urban rubble etc. and the base?

Cheers!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/13 10:35:33


Post by: Malika2


Migsula should one day make some extensive tutorials for how he paints his stuff because....well...it's just too cool!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/13 19:38:05


Post by: migsula


Pfreck wrote:Congrats on the move, Migs! I hope you're done moving quick, because I can't wait for the next update!

I really like the 2 new members of the gang, I'm also very keen to see your take on the assassin!

I've got a question regarding the bases though, I know you spray everything white in your gangs, the bases + the mini's. Though, what colours do you use to paint them? Also, do you use wall-filler to fill the gaps between the pieces of scrap/urban rubble etc. and the base?

Cheers!


The move should open up more hobby time and space and cuts my "commuting" to a 15min walk to the office So I can work a little more, but still hobby more. I'm going to spend more time painting together with my brother too, which is fantastic. He is working on an Eldar gang for Hammer's Campaign.

Bases: I use Vallejo Sand Paste, which is GREAT! As for painting, I use Vallejo model color shades, in a few diluted washes. Then paint some wear and tear and maybe add some rust effects and what not - but really just watered down paint. No drybrushing!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/17 21:59:03


Post by: migsula


Aaargh...one more week of slaving and we should be moving this sunday and then I get to return on the project too. A lot of talk about the new campaign and everyone's modeling plans. I feel like Jervis Johnson getting all sentimental about my hobby plans and getting very little actual models done


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/17 22:07:20


Post by: lasgunpacker


migsula wrote:Aaargh...one more week of slaving and we should be moving this sunday and then I get to return on the project too. A lot of talk about the new campaign and everyone's modeling plans. I feel like Jervis Johnson getting all sentimental about my hobby plans and getting very little actual models done


I think 90% of us fall into that category, you just usualy finish projects quickly so it is unusual for you.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/18 01:06:59


Post by: ghostmaker


your stuff is great btw

keep up the work


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/20 20:59:14


Post by: migsula


Ok - it's getting exciting - Hammer's just released the teaser for the "Broodheim" campaign, our Next =I=munda setup and the Legion will be there


http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/222968.page


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/27 10:12:29


Post by: migsula


Finally the move is done and the minis and paints in the new place. I'm going to do some sculpting tonight. I think I will give Jargassor puffier pants.

We are still waiting to get our table back, so that's a minor annoyance.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/11/28 23:07:14


Post by: TheMightyWarhamster


man, you really make me envious. good thing my bitzbox lets me "adapt" lots of your ideas for my inquisitors.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/01 15:16:29


Post by: migsula


Bloody winter making my priming plans rather tricky. I have a date with a suitable space tomorrow though, then it's on to paint the two finished guys and to build the fourth so that the Legion are to their starting strength.

At the moment, the image for the 4th guy is an ethically challenged biologis adept, also built from the wizard kit. I really want to show how versatile it can be as I feel it's a fantastic kit indeed and our campaign has already seen quite a few great versions. While there may well be a 5th guy too, another ex Ig that has nothing to do with the wizard kit.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/14 15:52:36


Post by: migsula




Gasp - Finally I'm reunited with the hobby (honestly, the past 6 weeks, as awesome as it is to be in the new, self renovated home, was on top of busy times at work just too much. I feel utterly exhausted and am just counting days for the Xmas holidays and more hobby action I would imagine)

Jargassor is getting some paint, still a very long way to go mind you, but keeping it painterly and experimental and really trying to capture the pale moonlight feel. With the Psyker, I think I'll paint his entire face as if it's made of smoke. The idea with the conversion is that you can't see his facial features, veiled, haunting image. I want to really experiment with freehand on the robes too.

The story/look dynamic of the group doesn't work at all yet, so the 4th guy is really crucial. I think painting wise I can make them look like a legion, yet individuals.

One of the nice things about Legion is just how different they are to Shaddes offe Greye in palette and feel, yet both clearly inhabit the same twisted universe.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/14 15:57:56


Post by: captain.gordino


I like it, very nice. That Space Marine looks really big, is that just me? Or is that not 28mm?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/14 16:33:15


Post by: Xanthos


The marine is heavily biggerized, something the finnish apparently do rather well..

Good looking models Migs, but I agree that they need something more to tie them together. Maybe the bases will help do that when you get them all done up.

Apart from that, the thing about many of these small gangs, my own included, is that the models are very individual.
So it can be hard to see the group as a whole, but I don´t think that´s necessarily a bad thing. It does make consistent basing that much more important though.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/15 13:10:51


Post by: migsula


Yes, the Marine is huge. Sculpted on Terminator and Tactical bitz armature

Thanks for the comments guys. Painting more tonight.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/15 15:52:42


Post by: migsula


Little progress - got the flue now I think Everyone around me has been ill. Anyway, now I am starting to see the "group". I'm entertaining a thought to do a fighter model from the second wizard. For the psyker I would like to use purple...but not sure how to successfully integrate it into the group aesthetic.

I included a small pic from the top as it shows the difference in bulk so well.



:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/15 18:23:17


Post by: smiling Assassin


I definately see your change of palette. The Blue, I think, would be incredible if your integrated it into all of the minatures, somehow. It's really enchanting, right now. I love Jargassor -- his fatigues are great.

Stay safe,

~sA


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/16 10:08:09


Post by: migsula


Thanks sA!

I do plan to keep that blue around. I was slightly intimidated as the Marine armour and bald head just lends itself so well to natural "light-lighting" and making the most out of that blue. I know the Psykers robes will too, but Jargassor was a different thing all together. It seems to be coming along now.

I'm excited that this gang has the foundtions of an equally strong theme, but yet it is so distinctively different to Shaddes offe Greye. With similar basing they can still fight against each other in visual harmony akin to a good movie. Ok, maybe it's the flu talking now, but you get the point.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/16 10:34:57


Post by: yakface



Looking inspiring (in a 'I can never hope to do that' kind of way) as always.


BTW, now that we have the gallery system going on Dakka I'd really, really love to get some super hi-rez pics of your stuff in there so people (especially me) can zoom in to really check out the detail work.

We accept any pics up to 10mb in size (which is gianormous). Do you have any really big pics especially of some of your award winning pieces? I honestly think it would be the absolute best way to show off your work on the internet.







:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/16 11:35:51


Post by: Xanthos


Ooh, that WOULD be nice. But then again, that might get us "face to face" with Migs´ inquisitor, not sure everyone would survive such an encounter...

Migs, the models are coming together nicely there, Jargassor is looking great, I´m just waiting (im)patiently to see what you do about the psyker model.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/16 15:27:16


Post by: migsula


yakface wrote:
BTW, now that we have the gallery system going on Dakka I'd really, really love to get some super hi-rez pics of your stuff in there so people (especially me) can zoom in to really check out the detail work.

We accept any pics up to 10mb in size (which is gianormous). Do you have any really big pics especially of some of your award winning pieces? I honestly think it would be the absolute best way to show off your work on the internet.



Thanks Yak,
Well, I will have to think about it - I do love the idea to move all of my miniature pics to Dakka Galleries, if for no other reason than the pbase format annoying me.

For the super high-res stuff I would really need a new camera!!!, something I am thinking of sooner than later - however, having said that, I'm sort of hoping my work impresses with feel and vision, rather than technical perfection, which has never been the aim for me. Also, the best I can spend with a single mini is 10 hours of painting, I just completely lack the stamina and technical fetish of most other "GD winners".

Now if some of the Spanish or French GD technique nutters would share their 10mbs that would be something!!

...heads off to check out the Dakka galleries

Xan, cheers mate


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/21 16:07:14


Post by: migsula


Here's number two of my moonlight painterly adventures.

Notice how the bases build up for a greater whole.



:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/21 17:28:51


Post by: Xanthos


Very nicely done Migs. I think he looks nice and chaos´ified. Excellent bases, as ever.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/21 19:33:22


Post by: Malika2


Chaos in a "subtle" way, no big spikes n stuff...good job!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/27 19:57:53


Post by: migsula


Thank you the two of you.

Looks like the discussion is dying down again in these parts. Our small hobby forum with 15 or so members ranks double the replies than dakka. I'm almost considering of copy pasting some of the stuff to here to go deeper in to thinking around the projects - but then I guess with size of the board comes certain shallowness on the depth of discussion and it's more about sharing than interaction.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/27 20:05:16


Post by: Da Boss


I know myself that I follow these threads avidly, but I rarely have much to offer- I'm not great at painting or converting, but I really, really enjoy these threads and the work you put into sharing them with us. My comments would often just be along the lines of "Wow!" or "I'm inspired!"
Edit: I also know many of my friends joined Dakkadakka on the strength of the Painting and Modelling sections alone, and enjoy the fact that the traffic is low but of very high standard. They also rarely post, but we oooh and ahhh over the contributions regularly.
I'm sorry if you've put one up somewhere that I've missed, but have you done any truescale Terminators? Your truescale marine here is fantastic, I was thinking a truescale terminator would be mindblowing.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/27 20:50:58


Post by: Xanthos


Hey Migs, long time no see! It can be a little frustrating with the lack of replies at times, but I much prefer this to the "Omg", "Kewl" and "Roxx" posts of some forums.

Please, please keep us posted, I for one greatly enjoy this bouncing back and forth of creative ideas.

Other than that, merry christmas. Any chance of getting the final Jde vessel battlerep up soon?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/28 23:50:40


Post by: Malika2


Sorry I haven't replied more, I've been gone for a week! I'll be more active from tomorrow on!

What's this other forum?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 00:38:06


Post by: grey_death


migsula wrote:Thank you the two of you.

Looks like the discussion is dying down again in these parts. Our small hobby forum with 15 or so members ranks double the replies than dakka. I'm almost considering of copy pasting some of the stuff to here to go deeper in to thinking around the projects - but then I guess with size of the board comes certain shallowness on the depth of discussion and it's more about sharing than interaction.


It's the holidays ^_-. I'm seeing a difference on my blog in replies/views as well.

As for Jarg, I really enjoy the digital camo effect you've been able to achieve on him (as I've mentioned elsewhere ^_-). The moonlight feel definitely comes through with your palette, especially in the blues. And as always, the weathering is really top notch.

Is that a subtle brown/tan I see used on the black for the pouches?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 01:23:38


Post by: gaalsien


At first I thought I was looking at the Inq. sized marine!

Your painting and converting skills have made leaps and bounds over the years.

Please tell me how you did the weathering on the Marine.



:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 09:47:53


Post by: migsula


gaalsien wrote:At first I thought I was looking at the Inq. sized marine!

Your painting and converting skills have made leaps and bounds over the years.

Please tell me how you did the weathering on the Marine.



Hello Sir!! LOOOONG time no see. How are you??

Even the past two years I think have made a huge leap. A lot of practice and a MA degree have really changed a lot of not only the doing, but thinking too. I'm also much more curious about just experimenting my ideas, rather than trying to please anyone or stick to a successful formula as so many painters above certain "pedigree".

For the Marine I used mostly greys painted on with a small brush trying to mimic reallife reference. For Jargassor I used just foam stippling, because I needed less control.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 09:49:48


Post by: migsula


Xanthos wrote:

Other than that, merry christmas. Any chance of getting the final Jde vessel battlerep up soon?


You as well my friend!

We've yet to fight it. It's becoming impossible to get everyone in the same place at the same time. Hence Hammer is going to use a different system that allows one on one games without a GM for our next campaign. We still haven't locked a date for the finale.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 09:54:22


Post by: migsula


Da Boss wrote: "Wow!" or "I'm inspired!"
Edit: I also know many of my friends joined Dakkadakka on the strength of the Painting and Modelling sections alone, and enjoy the fact that the traffic is low but of very high standard. They also rarely post, but we oooh and ahhh over the contributions regularly.
I'm sorry if you've put one up somewhere that I've missed, but have you done any truescale Terminators? Your truescale marine here is fantastic, I was thinking a truescale terminator would be mindblowing.


But a few of those never go amiss

I see what you mean and agree to an extent. I still feel more interaction would be beneficial, but hey I'll keep sharing here what ever is the case.

I have done one actually. This Librarian. http://www.pbase.com/migsula/image/56544347
Too bad I don't have any real reference pics, but in the same gallery there are pics of him with lengthened terminators.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 10:05:00


Post by: Paul Atreides


Migsula, your work makes me sad about mine. I don't think I am justified to even comment on this.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 10:52:40


Post by: Malika2


What more deeper discussions do you want? Purely on the modelling or also on the =I=munda storylines?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 12:29:13


Post by: T_55


Migsulaaaaaaaa!!!!

Damn you and your insane converting+painting skills. Sgt Jargassor as bloody fantastic, i'd love to see more human alpha legion associates.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 13:23:28


Post by: Da Boss


Migsula: Those extended Terminators are fantastic!
What I love about them is how closely they match what I see in my head when I read Horus Rising and the other excellent space marine novels.

On the topic at hand, I imagine your towering marine is going to attract a lot of fire in Necromunda style games. I think the fact that you've made him so much bigger will go a long way to making him fairer too. Smaller gangers will be able to slip away from him through gaps, while he must move slower perhaps to squeeze his large base and hulking form?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 13:29:58


Post by: migsula


Da Boss wrote:
On the topic at hand, I imagine your towering marine is going to attract a lot of fire in Necromunda style games. I think the fact that you've made him so much bigger will go a long way to making him fairer too. Smaller gangers will be able to slip away from him through gaps, while he must move slower perhaps to squeeze his large base and hulking form?


Actually, the =I=munda (Necromunda) engine makes real strength in numbers, so even a hugely powerful and fluffily statlined marine, will be balanced by lack of numbers.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 13:31:19


Post by: migsula


I started painting the Psyker. As with Jargassor, I spent a few days just contemplating on the scheme and not getting started (though this time I blame an awful stomach flue for the not getting started part) and then I just knew...so he's going to be green.

It's interesting how blue and green have been some of the least used colors in my selection (and in part that was the reason I selected Alpha Legion originally). Well richly saturated greens and blues anyway. What keeps them non candy, is the dark shadows and the pale moonlight I integrate, but still this bunch is so different to my other work.

As with Alpharius. I'm taking PIP pictures so you see the weirdness in the process.

I also try to catch a sense of material feel. On the Marine armour I smoothed it and with Jargassor's blue shirt I left it on purpose. Varnish ate it away quite a bit like I assumed, and now it's quite right sort of heavy, woollen garment.

With the psyker I intend to try something much more ambitious, a silky, semi transparent effect, which includes freehand. It may end up looking not how I intended, but then definitely something interesting and educational. I don't even like green :S


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 13:35:04


Post by: migsula


Malika2 wrote:What more deeper discussions do you want? Purely on the modelling or also on the =I=munda storylines?


It's not something one can demand, but needs to learn to inspire/provoke/create, so I will need to learn away and will try to explain the process more and see if people are interested to engage, of course I will also share the images as normal. There was a clear and present increase in discussion when you lot joined from Warseer and it has really benefitted dakka modeling!!

So it's a two way street of course.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 13:53:16


Post by: Da Boss


I'll try to post more feedback and ideas, but I'm not promising wondrous insights or anything.
When I get myself sorted (ie. get steady employment and a source of income) I intend to start my own blogs of this nature. I have plans for some Hruud, a couple of Kroot, genestealer cult and some other beasties for my planned dark heresy campaign. My hope is to make them all plastic as much as possible.
Hopefully that will inspire some of my lurker friends to get involved in the discussion.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 14:29:48


Post by: Malika2


migsula wrote:
Malika2 wrote:What more deeper discussions do you want? Purely on the modelling or also on the =I=munda storylines?


It's not something one can demand, but needs to learn to inspire/provoke/create, so I will need to learn away and will try to explain the process more and see if people are interested to engage, of course I will also share the images as normal. There was a clear and present increase in discussion when you lot joined from Warseer and it has really benefitted dakka modeling!!

So it's a two way street of course.


fair enough! So far I've been doing my best to throw my ideas and suggestions at the various =I=munda projects out here!

I'm curious, what exactly are you planning on including your Legion warband? So far you've got:
-Alpharius
-Jargassor
-Psyker

So what's next? IIRC you wanted to keep the warband rather small right? Are you planning on building some NPC's for the upcoming campaign as well?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 18:19:28


Post by: migsula


Yes you have been brilliant good sir!

I'm planning to keep this group to 4 or five. I want to make another model out of the Empire Wizard kit to show it's flexibility...first I thought I'd do a xenologist, but now I'm having visions of a skinny robed guy with a heavy stubber or a big combat shotgun. In which case the xenologist would be based on something else. I have one tiny idea based on a joke Wehrkind once made that I am hoping to include. But more of that later

I'm also entertaining ideas about Flect bearers! The psyker has a "flect" mirror in front of him, I quite like the idea and think it would be great to have a few small familiars or psyber creatures carrying some more of them. This would be wargear though.

The NPC stuff is Hammer's and Sickbunny's responsibility now - but I am planning a proper, finished vehicle this time around!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 18:23:50


Post by: Xanthos


Sounds like fun, I´m going to have to give the wizard kit a better look soon, it seems to be an excellent kit...

For the xenologist, you could have a look at the labs in Aliens, with the facehuggers in jars and such... Might be able to incorporate something like that on the base.

And yay for vehicles! I´ve been inspired to do something fun with the gyrocopter concepts in the AOBR box, but I´ll have more on that later, in a new thread somewhere.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 19:11:02


Post by: Rahveel


always glad to see you stoping through. these logs have been a huge inspiration!

I am about to start my own campaign (begining of febuary) baised loosly on the world in arms ruleset (much less restrictive though, in true =][=munda fassion), so any updates on new rules you develop would be awesome!

by the by, when calculating cost for wargear pirchased from a codex, have you guys found a good ratio for scaleing it to =][=munda?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/29 23:06:00


Post by: Malika2


Hmm, I've got a crazy idea for the xenobiologist!

Instead of servo skulls or cyber cherubs you would have some sort of anti-grav platform carrying a see through container with body parts or just the heads or smaller Tyranids or even a Genestealer's head! Kind of similar to those jars with the facehuggers in them in Aliens like Xanthos mentioned!

As for the " familiars", you might want to use some "slave" like models in the form of converted plastic Ghouls. Humans turned into mindless creatures who are only able to do their masters willing. Almost like a Servitor but then on a psykic level!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 02:07:57


Post by: Da Boss


A xenobiologist is a great idea. I'm trying to think how you could best represent it on a model. I was a parasitologist for a while and tended to have lots of random sample tubes full of murky medium with half seen horrors lurking in them. This sort of stuff hanging off his belt would be very evocative. The trick would be to make it subtle enough that it didn't look silly but still easily noticeable and recognisable. Having seen your other work I have plenty of confidence that you could manage it. Other things would be scalpels and other medical tools, like a mad doc, but more sleek and menacing. DE Haemonculi are sort of specialised Xenobiologists, maybe the range has some inspiration? An enslaved grox or carnasaur could be a fun project, too.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 09:59:45


Post by: CMDante


Sorry for the lack of posting mate, I've been a busy man with work and festive committments, back into the modelling swing again now though!

Jargassor looks great, the camo in particular looks spot on. I recently found my old =I= rulebook and have been leafing through the artwork for more inspiration and ideas for face. I've also been experimenting with sculpting some faces and its going well. I find that while the empire heads are good in some respects for the kinds of mini's we are both making, they lack alot of detail and definition due to being some of the earlier "computer sculpted" mini's.

For the xenobiologist, have you decided on a style or theme yet? Is he a snivelling lab/desk jockey or is he an "out in the field, knee deep in xeno's guts" type? I think this decision will really impact heavily on the parts selection and overall look of the mini. The DKoK quartermaster surgeon has some nice bits that could be useful for whichever way you decide. However, I'm not sure if the empire wizard kit works for the "in the field" type.

I look forward to seeing which type of vehicle you go with. When do we get to see Hammers finished arvus lighter too?!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 13:16:59


Post by: migsula


The whole lot will have the "in the field" look - and some how the Empire Wizard kit not naturally fitting that look obviously makes it a nice challenge I want to tackle. As always, the way it ends up being decided is in the building process, something sparks and works and leads to something more than was intended. Or utter failure and trying again gives a new unforeseen result. Both formulas can be successful, latter just takes more time

The Arvus lander is Nothern's work actually! And pics are in the Jade Vessel thread.

Thanks for all the comments and posts guys.



Here's something totally uncensored and messy for you to see, quite an adventure this one has been and still a long way from success or failure, a little early to tell. I still haven't applied a single highlight, so plenty of options left. It does show how much you can do with white primer alone. I must admit this has been fun but sort of intimidating too as I am purposefully doing things you ain't supposed to do and being very "grimgothicnistic" rather than smooth.

Biggest question mark is the "shrouded" effect on the face, which has a lot of potential but really clashes with the bare hands. Should he wear gloves, or should the hands also be shrouded? The saturation of the green still worries me, so I should HL with pale blue greens.

The pics are quite "raw" and eat away a lot of shades, but give you some indication of what's up, so I am sharing them.

I'm also yet to add the "flect" mirror which will be integral part of this miniature.




:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 13:46:56


Post by: smiling Assassin


That cloak is DELICIOUS.

I saw the first photo, and doubted it somewhat, but the Blue actually ties it in nicely. Somehow how it fades to darkness in the low parts is very mysterious and complementary to the rest of the model. It almost looks like he's floating on darkness.

The scale between Jarg and the 'Mancer is very nice, thanks to the pretty updated Empire Kits. They definately look like a useful Human shape to base the conversions off (i.e. Not Rambo.)

I'm somehow not getting the shrouded head-look. The hands surprised me for a second, but then again, this guy probably hasn't seen much Natural sun in his lifetime, has he? The jury here is out on where to go with the head and face.

Looking forward to moar!

~sA


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 13:54:09


Post by: Cruentus


Great work on the highlighting and going from light to dark on the cloak (not to mention the freehand which is very effective). Was this accomplished with a series of washes?

With regard to the shrouding, when I saw the model from the back, it looked pretty good. When I saw the front picture, my eyes were drawn to his right (the screen's left) hand, and then to the skull on his staff. The shroud, along with the darkness on the chest draws my eyes away from the middle of the model (which is usually the focal point). Unless this is intentional, which would be cool in its own right, you might want to consider darkening the hands as well, or deciding where you want to draw someone's eye.

These threads have been great for inspiration for me and my group, and we've started a World In Arms campaign. We're not quite ready for the "openness" of I-munda, at least not yet :-)

Can't wait to see more.

*edited for clarity


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 14:16:30


Post by: migsula


AH!! SALVATION! I added two thin glazes of "pale blue green" vallejo for HL on the robe and it totally translated the moonlight feel and killed the extensive saturation.

So relieved.

I agree with you guys about the issues with the shrouding, I'm not getting it yet either. The skull is meant to be the focal point of this mini, a deliberate choice to contrast with the dark, non defined, head shape. I highlighted it all the way up to white to really ram it home. But alas, the head vs. hands thing ain't clicking yet, so I think I'll try darkening the hands.

And yes, this lot doesn't see much daylight, but the key idea for this whole lot is to have them "lit by the pale glow of moonlight". You or I wouldn't look very tanned in full moonlight!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 14:44:53


Post by: Paul Atreides


You monster. You do this just to make me sad about my work don't you?
Well, you have succeed.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 15:01:52


Post by: migsula


Had to take big man from his box for family portrait.

There's a radical thought bubbling in my head... to remove Ghul's head all together! all the more sickening with the mirror facing a head that isn't there, and the skull with lots of eye-lenses and viewer things connected to him with some heavy cabling...



:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 15:09:22


Post by: Xanthos


Great stuff Migs. I´m also having trouble with the new guys head, but maybe a wash (or three) of badab black or similar could do the trick.

You could also try and distend the shape of the head using GS to get a more billowing smoky effect. Though it might be a tad late for that now.

And of course, losing the head altogether is an option too, though I´m not sure it would feel right, might just end up looking unfinished or broken, unless possibly, you could put the cables from the staff into the hole where the head should be...

Just brainstorming here.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 16:21:29


Post by: Malika2


Altering the head might be cool, right now it isn't that "special". How about going the direction a lot of 40k artwork has, covering it with cables and tubes (especially from his mouth), kind of like the guy on the left on this picture by Adrian Smith.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 16:42:18


Post by: malfred


I don't know if we match your other forum's post count, but what about views? Right
now it reads 4k.

As been said before, not much for us to offer except "Um!"

Also, the sheer volume of posts recently makes it hard to keep up (forum wide)


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 17:59:44


Post by: migsula


Yes, oh how much joy decapitation of little plastic men can be.

Meet Saint Bethune, Legion Relic and the essence of one of the finest and most vile Xenologists in the Ultima Segmentum, dead for some 774 years.



Now I have so much new ideas on how to go on with the gang...they each center more on Alpharius, how he's handpicked the "tools" for the job at hand. This really is the core concept now. :twisted:

...back to painting him, then working on the next member, based on the wizard kit but something quite unlike the original...


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 18:03:53


Post by: migsula


they each center more on Alpharius, how he's handpicked the "tools" for the job at hand.

This really is the core concept now. Everything fits now in terms of the dynamics and new ideas.

...hmm this really was the case of fething up with the initial plan (for the psyker) and then finding the whole thing because of that. It's unlike other group dynamics I've worked on, much more singular, ruthless, no comradeship at all, just martial pride and shared cause. Pure Alpha Legion doctrine.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 20:36:27


Post by: Reecius


yeah, I pretty much turn green with envy at your talent every time I look at your stuff. Just amazing. Well done.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/30 21:08:47


Post by: TheGrin


You sir are a Painting Wizard!!! Holy goat your skillz with a brush are amazing!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/31 00:14:27


Post by: Rahveel


truly impresive. your greens are fantastic sir.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/31 08:21:25


Post by: Flachzange


very coherent.
im loving the replication of the legio number on everyone so far. ties it together well ... together with the replication of the colors obviously but still. nice detail


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/31 08:51:29


Post by: migsula


Thanks for the kind words guys!

Next model is an explosives expert... or a Xenoform Hunter. Anyway based on the wizard kit, standing on an open sewer, aiming a stocky naval pistol down and either arrogantly dropping a high explosive device down (Explosive Expert) or squeezing drops of blood into the water from a chunk of flesh bait.(Hunter)

Hunter would also get a long las under his robe, while EE some collection of explosives - which concept rocks your boat?? And what ever I do with the wizard model might leave the other character concept for the final figure anyway, but lets see.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/31 12:25:08


Post by: CMDante


I think the robes will be a little difficult to make work with either concept but it probably works best with the hunter. Plus that one sounds the most original anyway!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/31 12:41:57


Post by: Malika2


I like the explosives expert the best. I'm not so sure about the wizard kit, unless you could be able to make it look like some sort of trench coat/cloak. The guy would have grenades and such inside his jacket or even in a backpack. If not with a backpack of explosions you might want to give him a shotgun or lasgun (carried over his shoulder). Sort of an engineer/explosives expert.

Give him a gas-mask as well, I know that the Space Marine tactical sprue has a fitting head with a mask thing on it since it looks high tech and only overs the mouth and nose, but perhaps those heads are too big for the Empire wizard torso?

As for the hunter, maybe something along the lines of Kraven the Hunter from Spiderman. Now I'm not suggesting those horrible colours and spandex. I meant him as an inspiratin for the fur on his shoulder, sort of a cloak/armour. Instead of a lion the hunter could wear some sort of cloak made from a xenos animal (even Tyranid carapace bits)


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/31 13:34:32


Post by: migsula


The more you doubt the more I'm doing it Honestly, the wizard kit is just brilliant for this, he'll have a camo cloack on a long coat (I removed the layers of cape underneath), and new boots and... It's coming along great and fits totally.

KABOOOOM!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/31 13:39:39


Post by: Xanthos


Can´t wait to see what you make of this Migs, really really looking forward to seeing this new guy.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/31 17:35:40


Post by: smiling Assassin


EOD are the best

Looking forward to see how this proceeds with the Wizard kit.

Stay safe,

~sA


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2008/12/31 22:32:56


Post by: Fiendcrackar!


Just some ideas for the xenologist (though I am sure its too late to do any good) that I have had floating around my mind...

instead of servo skulls, use ripper servitors
or maybe even a gaunt servitor.. that would be rad.

Also explosives sounds the best for your next model.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/01 14:38:06


Post by: ridon


thats awesome i dont think ive seen better painting


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/01 15:24:57


Post by: migsula


Thanks lads!

The other day - err... yesterday... I say to myself, "Self, you are going hunting for the worst game in the universe (stealers) with some crazy mercenaries, Eldar Rogues and a Criminal Syndicate, all of whom you might need (want) to kill too, so what do you need to bring? A Warrior God, A Gun Slinger lucky charm, The Essence and Knowledge of Xenologist extraordinaire and a Master of Stealth with a passion for explosives. What more can you want short of a Vulcan Mega Bolter??



Self! You fething conscript, you need this! A Vulcan Mini Bolter. And a tough nut Big Game hunter Arrod Huntelaar to carry it.

(Still a WIP, and looking horribly busy, without paint picking up the right detail and components and merging the rest. Notice the exo-harness and integrated motiontracker and auspex system and display. Quite an extensive conversion I must add, but the repose works IMO)



And of course, you need something to flush them out of their hides.
( Still being sculpted when the pic was taken, and short of his custom built silenced Hecutor. He's getting detailed ear-enhancers that blocks damaging levels of explosions, but magnify low voices. He's also getting a cameoline cloak, so I can try some new painting effect. The main trick will be splashing water, like something was just dropped down)



So with that, sans a small flect mirror carrier thing, the Legion is ready for the journy to Kharybdis, and recruiting some more needed operatives possibly.


HAPPY NEW YEAR!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/01 15:46:26


Post by: Anti-Mag


All the happier due to this thread.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/01 18:39:17


Post by: grey_death


That seals it! I need that wizard kit. It just makes me giddy to see all of the awesome conversions you guys have worked out of that single kit.

I love both of the new guys. I really like how the EE is coming along.

Happy New Year indeed.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/01 20:05:20


Post by: Malika2


Arrod Huntelaar? You named him after the Dutch football player Huntelaar didn't you?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/01 23:18:12


Post by: Drake_Marcus


gaalsien wrote:At first I thought I was looking at the Inq. sized marine!

Your painting and converting skills have made leaps and bounds over the years.

Please tell me how you did the weathering on the Marine.



Holy crap! Haven't heard from you in a while. I hope you're here to stay Haven't seen cool Kroot mercenary conversions since you disappeared.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/01 23:30:35


Post by: Drake_Marcus


migsula wrote:Thanks lads!

The other day - err... yesterday... I say to myself, "Self, you are going hunting for the worst game in the universe (stealers) with some crazy mercenaries, Eldar Rogues and a Criminal Syndicate, all of whom you might need (want) to kill too, so what do you need to bring? A Warrior God, A Gun Slinger lucky charm, The Essence and Knowledge of Xenologist extraordinaire and a Master of Stealth with a passion for explosives. What more can you want short of a Vulcan Mega Bolter??

Self! You fething conscript, you need this! A Vulcan Mini Bolter. And a tough nut Big Game hunter Arrod Huntelaar to carry it.

(Still a WIP, and looking horribly busy, without paint picking up the right detail and components and merging the rest. Notice the exo-harness and integrated motiontracker and auspex system and display. Quite an extensive conversion I must add, but the repose works IMO)

And of course, you need something to flush them out of their hides.
( Still being sculpted when the pic was taken, and short of his custom built silenced Hecutor. He's getting detailed ear-enhancers that blocks damaging levels of explosions, but magnify low voices. He's also getting a cameoline cloak, so I can try some new painting effect. The main trick will be splashing water, like something was just dropped down)

So with that, sans a small flect mirror carrier thing, the Legion is ready for the journy to Kharybdis, and recruiting some more needed operatives possibly.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!


Lookin' good man. I'm not a huge fan of the stabilizing system on the vulcan mini bolter- it looks too much like a power pack... I'd remove the power cabling on the top right of the backpack and replace it with a ball and socket joint similar to the one here: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Adeptus%20Mechanicus/tpriest3.jpg

I'm sure you're familiar with that model since you've used the parts from it on another ganger if I remember correctly.

As it stands now the joint between the Tau antenna and the plasma cannon power plant doesn't really look like much of a connection at all- if anything it looks like incidental contact :p

Continuing on that theme... the auspex isn't really integrated into the gun enough for my tastes. It looks like it's just sitting wedged between his arm and the gun.

Great work as usual, I'm just providing the constructive critisms you expect of me.

Edit: I forgot to compliment you on the sculpting of the second wizard body's arms. They seamlessly fit the body, nice work! The bomb dropping in a hole motion is captured perfectly.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/02 00:48:48


Post by: Slaaneshi


Great sculpting and painting work here. I'm especially jealous of the freehand serpents on the Psyker's cloak.

On the latest two sculpts, I'd love to see what you could do to make the vulcan cannon stabilizer look more like the Aliens movie marine 'Steadicam' mount - http://www.geocities.com/area51/corridor/4035/23.jpg. As it is here, his head/face is totally covered on his right side, which would be a practical problem in combat, and also will conceal your excellent face painting work.

Definitely can't wait to see what painting effect you are going to use on the camo cloak!

Cheers!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/02 08:22:49


Post by: migsula


Good comments guys,

Drace - I have that bit, but it didn't fit here and I abhor using such delicate resin on gaming pieces that play in Necro,unda style heights. I think paint will bring a whole new level of integration, but I will do a little tweaking as you suggest.

Slaaneshi - the way the support exo-arm moves and is more naturally posed it wouldn't be so far forward. The idea for the pose here is that the guy is driving the whole weapon forward while going for full auto. The challenge with this was getting both arms and the exo-arm to meet with the gun, and whole stabilizer thing was something of an afterthought when I got carried away with the size of the gun

Lets see how I can modify them and then blend it all together with paint

Cheers,


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/02 12:54:31


Post by: Malika2


How are you going to paint that cameoline cloak?

Perhaps you should add a bionic eye to Huntelaar as well, would be kind of fitting/cool, like that he was out hunting some big creature and got his eye ripped out. Now he has a bionic eye with a targetter in it or something


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/02 22:49:38


Post by: Rahveel


I was thinking the same as Malika, a bionic eye/targeting device would look awesome.

as to your demo expert, all I can say is that he looks class, everything about this guy I like. great movement, smooth lines (and smoother greenstuffing), as well as a distictly sinister air about him. cant wait to see him painted up!

out of curiocity, what head will you be using for the other wizard kit?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/02 22:58:52


Post by: 99MDeery


really do love the models, also the demo expert oddly reminds me of Fatman (minus the rollerskates of course) from MGS2,

as an aside then if you are looking at making some new operatives, it might be worth a look at some of the boss characters from the Metal Gear series, i know a few friends who used to play Inquisitor based some of their warbands off characters like Psycho Mantis

was just a thought anyway, again awesome models, good luck in the campaign


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/03 01:43:09


Post by: Rahveel


holy crap 99mdeery, thats brilliant! I am so making a model of 'the end' for my =][=munda warband. parrot and all!



:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/03 16:41:04


Post by: 99MDeery


The End would be an interesting character to do.

I was thinking more the newer versions of the MGS1 bosses from MGS4 (i'm waiting for the game to arrive so the names escape me) and say a deathcult assassin like Cyborg Ninja or something


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/03 22:09:25


Post by: Thorekor


Amazing job, great painting..

This is blog, what is really exiting to look...

Keep going! Becouse this is great!




:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/04 20:17:58


Post by: migsula


Thanks to a nice and talkative paint fest with Hammer and a little more painting after watching ManU kick ass in the FA cup the two new guys are 85% done! As always, I experimented with all manner of things, this time tamya masking tape for the camo cloak for example. Wild.

I also took some pics of Hammers Iron Bears and Genestealer Cult.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/04 20:24:50


Post by: Malika2


So where are the pics?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/04 20:28:45


Post by: migsula


This time you must wait for the finished article. As for Hammer's models, hopefully I have a moment tomorrow to fine tune and upload them.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/04 21:15:34


Post by: CMDante


Sounds good mate, looking forward to seeing them when theyre done.

Did you do any refinements to the cradle for the heavy weapon?

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/05 08:53:22


Post by: Xanthos


Sounds like good fun, I´ve been looking at some masking tape, and haven´t been sure, so I really want to see what you made of it.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/05 12:26:52


Post by: smiling Assassin


Masking tape looks to be the way to go for the Cloak. Are you looking for more of a Jagged DP? I'm trying it out on a tank at the moment, trying to gague the correct scale I should use for the pattern. Also, multiple sticking-out edges are getting on my nerves: it distorts the pattern, losing some of the sharpness in areas.

I'll be really interested to see what you make of the masking tape on a miniature, however. I've thought of using a sponge-stippling effect for a Flecktarn-esque camouflage, and that actually came out nicely on your Jargassor. Any heads up on that?

Stay safe,

~sA


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/06 10:50:36


Post by: migsula


Teaser of the close to finished cell of operatives. Still need to finish water splash effects, some pigmenting on the bases etc.

This has been such fun, relaxing and new and exciting at the same time. Now I have all the parts needed and am working on the door (a sort of mini display thing for them, with an industrial door that has a faded hydra symbol), which is my first ever piece of super detailed and painted terrain - just as much love as on the models.

I'm now going back to "shaddes offe greye" and a more austere, disciplined and "technically correct" styles of painting. Nice to have such variety and a subject matter I'm in love with






Also be sure to check out Hammer's gorgeous NPC elements for the new Campaign the Legion is taking part in.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/222968.page#505119

and a teaser shot:







:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/06 12:26:14


Post by: lifeofshan


WOW.....im always amazed by your painting and modelling skills, just the concepts you come up with astound me...


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/06 12:29:05


Post by: Malika2


Got some more all round pictures of the painted explosives expert (does he have a name?) and Huntelaar?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/06 12:49:55


Post by: lolzman


sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! motha load of ****


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/06 13:26:30


Post by: grey_death


Looking good migs. Looking forward to seeing some more photos of the new guys. But from what I can see I'm really really liking the heavy.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/06 14:04:21


Post by: Xanthos


Looks excellent migs. Closeup on the cloak of the demolitions guy would be great, as well as more shots of the finished group. GJ on finishing them all in such high quality!

I see Hammer (or Northen?) has indeed gone with kroot carapace armor. Looking really good too.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/07 06:19:35


Post by: migsula


Thanks lads,

More pics after varnish and finishing the basing and water effects. I hit them with proper layer of gloss yesterday and will allow a few days for drying before dullcoat, then the effects, so this weekend. Wip shots of the scenery piece too.

Xanthos, yes, Hammer, he saw your's and was very inspired


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/07 06:45:42


Post by: DanTheAngry


Very well done Misula. I always look foraward to updates in this plog.
The Legion is very well tied together with bases and colour scheme. But, all unique. I think you pulled off a lot of the different/ experimental painting techniques that you talk about, while still sticking with your own painting style.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/07 07:25:11


Post by: Flachzange


That is some awesome camo job on that cloak. Ill reserve other comments for detailed pics, but Im loving every bit of it so far.

Really dig the npc guys as well.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/07 07:31:19


Post by: willxxx


First post here
I really love what you guys are doing, it really expands the 40k universe beyond what we all usually see
don't be offended or standoffish when people copy certain elements of your conversions though, imitation is the highest form of flattery after all!
also the way i see it, you guys are really setting the standard of sub military technology/fashion/aesthetics. i love the use of the flagellants and ghoul kits, brilliant!
keep up the good work, there's clearly countless lurkers out there admiring your work


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/07 07:58:50


Post by: Col Hammer


Oooh. The two newest guys look good now. I'm waiting for more closeup pics for them so that I can see better how the cape came out. The masking tape approach was something I want to see if it works - and it looks like it works.

Now you need to add the water and the splash effect. Will you add that before or after varnish? How does the water effect stuff react to varnish anyway? I haven't used it myself, but I plan trying the stuff with my terrain.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/07 12:32:04


Post by: migsula


Will, cheers mate and warm welcome to dakka posting

Hammer, After varnish as it needs to be glossy and is clear resin based matter that doesn't need any protection as such. I'm using Vallejo as always. The citadel one is great for pools, but Vallejo has this water effect stuff you can mould and shape. Lets paint again this weekend, so you also can see them IRL as no amount of pics newer really does it with models.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/07 12:35:42


Post by: Col Hammer


Ok, good to know. I'll add the stuff after I get the room painted and varnished then.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/07 22:28:35


Post by: Rahveel


Migsula, I got to say I love these guys, in every way they are breaking the molds.

One thing you may wish to re-examine though is your psyker, or namely, his lack of a head. Your reasons for leaving it off are good, and I like the sinister, “who the hell would remove their own head???” feel it gives, but I think the lack of anything on his shoulders makes the model look very un-finished.

Just my 2 cents though. Your demo expert turned out awesome, and your warband has a very strong look overall that I think will look ace facing off against those Iron Bears. Cant wait to see some battle reps 


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/07 22:44:47


Post by: Malika2


Hmm, one thing I'm a little bit disappointed with is the fact that Huntelaar (with his big ass gun) lacks boots, I think he would have looked better with some boots on like Jargassor. Looks kind of off for the heavy weapon guy.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/07 22:50:05


Post by: CMDante


Wow, mate you have completely proved me wrong with that demo chap. He works perfectly and I'm sorry for doubting.

The camo is utterly genius, I can see the hydra neck pattern already from the teaser pic you've given so far and it looks quality!

Can't wait to see proper individual shots of the two new guys.

The water effects are something I've been eyeing up everytime I'm in Hobbycraft. Any experience with the Woodland scenics stuff? The only thing putting me off at the moment is the sheer volume of water effects you get in a pack, much more than I would ever use so I can't justify the cost to myself at the moment. What quantity is the Vallejo stuff sold in?

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/08 05:31:54


Post by: The Thousandth Son


Alpharius? Like the Primarch?



:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/08 11:50:05


Post by: migsula


Everyone, big thanks for the comments!

Dante - the Vallejo stuff comes in a large pot (likely to last forever) but is probably the price of a single forge world comissar, so ok

TheThousandthSon - Alpharius like everyone in the legion!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/08 18:07:00


Post by: Death By Monkeys


@Hammer - what do you use as the basis for the Iron Bear's helmets? (sorry, Migs - don't mean to derail your thread - it's just that this one has newer pics of the Iron Bears than Hammer's other thread).


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/08 18:20:35


Post by: smiling Assassin


I think (Sorry, Hammer, prove me wrong if you like) it's a shaved down Cadian Helmet, GS, and a Kroot Shoulderpad. Simple, but very nice.

~sA


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/09 05:23:04


Post by: tcraigen


They look awesome I love the worn paint effect you've achieved. The gunner looks wicked when I get time you have inspired me to give a go at making my own unique teams. The cammo cloak looks really cool and Im amazed at how models that look so different are so similar, ah the power of hard work and thought heheh good work hope to see more.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/09 10:32:28


Post by: Col Hammer


DbM, Smiling Assassin got it right, shaved cadian helmets and kroot shoulderpads.

Migsula actually posted this pic and several others in my thread too, so if you have other questions about my Bears and stuff, please ask them in the proper thread. Let's not de-rail this thread too much.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/12 06:19:10


Post by: Ghost in the Darkness


I love all you stuff so far. But I have one question. Where are the rules for this? Is this a version of Necromunda or what?

If someone could provide an idiot proof link to the rules or where i could find them it would be greatly appreciated.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/17 17:24:23


Post by: migsula


It's a version of Necromunda we are using, but soon updating to modified Mordheim rules, which to begin with are a little like Necro 1.5.

And thanks


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/18 00:00:23


Post by: Ghost in the Darkness


Thanks but the question still stands, when you update the rules are you going to write an article so the rest of us can play with your rules? Cause I really want to make a gang for myself but I would like to see the rules before making models willy nilly.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/18 05:57:17


Post by: grey_death


Ghost in the Darkness wrote:Thanks but the question still stands, when you update the rules are you going to write an article so the rest of us can play with your rules? Cause I really want to make a gang for myself but I would like to see the rules before making models willy nilly.


Rules questions should be directed to THIS thread.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/20 18:07:45


Post by: migsula


Ghost in the Darkness wrote: Cause I really want to make a gang for myself but I would like to see the rules before making models willy nilly.


Then you fail to see the true beauty of this idea - which is to do models willy nilly killy hilly and then come up with rules to match

See also our Jade Vessel thread for throrough discussion also of the rules etc.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/208707.page

Once we start with the new rules, we will share them of course.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/27 17:39:04


Post by: migsula


Just a little sitrep. It's been a little silent for a while - some dark clouds gathering around our "Broodheim" Campaign. Lots of people gone MIA and the two GMs don't seem to talk to each other about the campaign schedule and rules situation - which is all a real bummer as the Legion is itching to play, to get inspired from gaming and to draft more operators

I should no more soonish. AFAIK, we are still meant to begin in February. When/if we do, I will do a full war diary with pics from battles.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/27 18:12:55


Post by: Xanthos


Bummer.

Hope that things work out for you guys, and that you´re able to put those kickass models on a gaming table soon.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/29 12:29:10


Post by: Col Hammer


Due to tight schedules of some of our players, my needing more time to build stuff and our needing to finish Jade Vessel campaign first, the Broodmunda campaign is now scheduled to the early march start slot.
Alpharius and co. will get their chance to kill some hybrids.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/29 15:28:10


Post by: migsula


Yeah, it's shaping up nicely again. So we are game

Will keep you guys posted. I will also do some civilians/stealers as need be. +Help paint terrain etc.




:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/29 20:01:20


Post by: CMDante


Good to hear. Looking forward to more from you all.

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/31 17:57:22


Post by: migsula


Nothing exciting yet - just proof that I am working on a new Shaddes offe Greye mutant and the "door" thing for Legion Both WIP and getting a lot of details next. The mutie will be about having fun with rust and wear and tear effects, which I intend to really play with come painting.

The door is getting a lot of details on the inside too, alarm systems and small narrative touches that are great fun to do and think. I'm going to try and really capture the material feels and different textures in painting with this one.






:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/01/31 18:12:07


Post by: CMDante


Cool stuff as always mate. I've been looking at the new Ork kits to try and identify cool parts worth having handy, seems you've found some already!

The door is looking cool already, really looking forward to seeing the finished article!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/02/13 21:05:18


Post by: migsula


Not much news on the legion, the campaign start looks to be postponed due to moodswinging GM @ Hammer

, other than possibly an ally that is.

My little brother has started working his "gang" for Hammer's campaign. It is basically a cloaked star strider expedition and I will show you his process here as we will be painting our stuff together mostly.

the list will be.

a. Ambitious and young warlock leader.
b. 5 Pahtfinders, the fluffiest unit for this sort of thing
c. A striking scorpion. The Craftworld, ahem, insurance for this young and travelling lot.

So 7 models. No heavies, but then fairly expert marksmen and from the War Mongering Biel Tan.

The squad is almost ready for priming. "petsula" had his first stab at GS work today. He's such a fast learner I must say and has a strong opinion and an idea for the end result. He want lighter, more subdued green Biel Tan, and "Dust capes". He will be painting on white for the first time too. "Because I like the challenge". My man.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/02/13 21:32:52


Post by: Xanthos


Sounds good. Eldar pathfinders are excellent for this type of work as well, an lots of opportunities for modeling in the WH+40K plastic kits these days too.

Will be interesting to see what he makes of them.

Sad to hear that your campaign is looking shaky... Feel free to drop by our campaign if you get bored


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/02/13 21:46:32


Post by: Platuan4th


Migs, what's the head on that mutant?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/02/13 22:14:45


Post by: nemissary


Looks like the head is one of the new WHFB plastic ghoul heads.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/02/25 20:37:08


Post by: migsula


The beginnings of my little Brother's gang, ready for priming. His first metal mini conversion and his own idea. Quite neat, I almost feel like he could've done a few more shuricat swaps, like a sniper + firesupport team, but he intends to be more experimental with the farseer and aspect.

He also designed a color scheme today and we wrote all the shades down and are painting this weekend.





:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/02/26 04:41:24


Post by: Malika2


Oh that's going to be really cool! I guess the converting skills run in the family?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/02/26 17:27:46


Post by: migsula


He's only just getting properly into the hobby, but getting decent tutoring

He clearly has ideas and vision, practice will bring the rest.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/02/26 18:00:18


Post by: His Master's Voice


You know what migsula? After seeing your upscaled Alpha Legion marine, I now have to make a similar upscaled Cypher for my warband. And since I made a vow of nt using termie legs I'll have to sculpt him.

And it's all your fault.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/02/27 17:02:05


Post by: migsula


Guilty as charged


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/04 19:15:04


Post by: migsula


Some bad news on the campaign. I've decided not to take part, even if there was a campaign by our two GMs, which I really really doubt. It's been months of getting people excited, then disappearing and or totally changing focus on other projects and letting this hang with no news. This happens every month. The rules are another joke, we've been waiting for the supposed finished rules document for circa 3 months and now the GM in charge of the rules has disappeared all together. And the two GMs, who see like daily never have a clue what the other one intends and when. True Chaos Agent's I suppose

So now I'm thinking about other options with friends and my brother. A few of us are totally committed and excited about this, so we will find away. If by some miracle the original GMs get their gak together, and still have us join the campaign, who knows, but I'm 90% sure it's all talk and no walk.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/04 20:31:34


Post by: Defcon56


Your brother really seems to have some skills. Cool that you're getting him into the hobby. We can always use some more great modelers. I really hope you get your campaign up and running.

=I=munda for life.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/04 20:56:32


Post by: CMDante


Thats a shame about the campaign mate but I hope you don't let others' lack of focus detract from your own modelling works.

I'm still waiting on close ups of the 2 newest members!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/04 22:27:58


Post by: typhus


stealing the nob conversion for traitor ogryns


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/04 23:16:32


Post by: Shattered Soul


Migs, you beautiful genius! I love you work. You are an inspiration sir.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/05 01:30:55


Post by: grey_death


Really stinks that the campaign has seemed to wither and die on the back burner.

The inspiration is still there though, and hopefully you can pull from it still as you move forward with this project. I would definitely see what you guys can do instead with your warbands. It would be a complete shame for such awesome projects to never see the tabletop.

Best of luck getting it all straightened out!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/05 01:36:38


Post by: Da Boss


migsula wrote:
So now I'm thinking about other options with friends and my brother. A few of us are totally committed and excited about this, so we will find away. If by some miracle the original GMs get their gak together, and still have us join the campaign, who knows, but I'm 90% sure it's all talk and no walk.


I think this is a really sensible approach. Gamers can be very flakey- no sense sitting on your hands when you could be having fun!
Let us know how you get on.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/05 06:53:37


Post by: migsula


Thanks for the comments and support lads!

Close ups are in order, you're right - even the water effect is now finished. I also need to take a group pic of the legion and the "shaddes offe gerye" together to share my nearly one year's worth of =I=munda modeling



:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/05 09:15:43


Post by: Xanthos


Please do. Would be great to get some close ups, as well as a "family photo"

If it makes you feel any better, our campaign is in total sleep status till this summer, due to players actually being in three different countries at the moment.... So you´re not the only one who gets way too little gaming done :S


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/05 14:04:45


Post by: migsula


I hope by the summer we get our act properly together too


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/09 10:14:57


Post by: Pfreck


Wow, I haven't read this thread in ages!

You really made some good progress on the gang, Migs! I especially like the explosions expert, I like what you did with the cloak!
It's good to see your brother is getting involved in =I=munda as well! His gang is looking pretty sweet, looking forward to see how he's going to paint everything!

Cheers!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/10 17:58:12


Post by: migsula


Oooh - the plastic IG command sets (both cadian and catachan) are emperor sent for more Legion troopers!

The metal advisors are also great conversion fodder for =I=Munda. Small conversions and they'll be brilliant NPCs.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?doCache=&categoryId=400032&pIndex=1&aId=14500025&start=2


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/10 18:54:08


Post by: CMDante


Absolutely, I've been looking over the pics of the parts on warseer for the last few weeks, lots of them will be seeing use in my future conversions!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/10 22:41:33


Post by: Defcon56


Those are seriously some sweet sets of HQ squads, for IG.
I can see the =I=munda characters just being born from these sprues.

That mutant is quite a work of art


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/11 17:03:10


Post by: migsula


I need to get some Marauder Horsemen too, they have fabulous heads, too bad I heard they are big ones I'm told.

Anyway, I've started planning for a new member and that Valkyrie And I just can't get the thought of how cool a full Army would be out of my heads.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/11 18:55:37


Post by: CMDante


Yeah I'm planning some gun cutter conversions with the Valkyrie too.

The astropath model and the fleet envoy fella are top notch, can't wait to get my hands on them!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/11 21:25:05


Post by: migsula


CMDante wrote:

The astropath model and the fleet envoy fella are top notch, can't wait to get my hands on them!/quote]

Good taset mate, my faves too!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/11 21:27:08


Post by: smiling Assassin


Mmm - the new IG things, a world of opportunities.

I'm personally looking with glee at the Ordnance Advisor (the dude with the Artillery), being an Artillery nut myself.

I also like the astropath -- perfect for any number of roles.

sA


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/12 00:06:56


Post by: Llamahead


migsula wrote:I need to get some Marauder Horsemen too, they have fabulous heads, too bad I heard they are big ones I'm told


Actually there standard GW Human size.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/12 13:59:20


Post by: migsula


and where does the flagelant head size rank in "standard GW"? If they are the same size, I'm buying some Marauder Horsemen asap.

I didn't know they had standards on these, to me it feels every kit has a different size and proportions. The differences can be small, but still they exist.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/12 14:07:57


Post by: Col Hammer


Look at my WIP terminators pic. 2 of them have marauder heads and 2 are FW termies which compare to the flagellants quite well. The marauder heads are a bit bigger than flaggies. Most of us wouldn't even notice the difference, but you propably think them as too big. I think they are just perfect for the wolves, though.



:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/12 18:32:19


Post by: migsula


Yes, they are perfect for your wolves, but you know my small head fetish!

Thank for the reference, I think they are tad too big for Legion, but can be shaved down so...


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/12 19:01:31


Post by: CMDante


Gotta agree, the new marauder horsemen heads are noticeably bigger (to me anyway and probably you too Migs) than the type of human heads I like to use. They're probably similar in size to marine heads.

There is a lot of mileage to be had out of the various flagellant heads, then there is the rest of the empire plastics etc.

Not sure shaving down would do much to sort the "bigishness" of them.

Why not give sculpting new expressions on flagellant heads a go, it's a hell of a lot of fun and you have the skills. Go on, you know you want to!

What had you planned for the marauder heads?

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/12 21:59:31


Post by: migsula


CMDante wrote:

What had you planned for the marauder heads?

Cheers,

Dante


A mercenary type character with lots of tattoos.

I see your point about shaving and agree. Maybe I should tweak some flagellant heads, which I love. I should be doing so many other hobby projects, but the Legion has totally captivated my imagination. Now I want a full army and a few more of Alpharius too! But it's just not realistic.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/13 11:37:10


Post by: migsula


Like I said, I should be doing so many other hobby projects, but the Legion has totally captivated my imagination.

A full army, realistic or not? I'm entertaining the thought though.

I would love to do a full IG force from a planet totally in the Legion control and agenda: Basically a new guard army that can go anywhere, with A mix match guard, merc, spec op force guys thrown in as operatives, ride in Valkyries, with separate armored support units, and a small squad of Legion thrown in. Maybe even a few select Xeno operatives.

I would invent a new regiment, with a strong background story, and a nice tie in to Alpharius and his Alphariuses. There would be plenty of half hidden narrative links to their masters, and some squads of special operatives and individuals in the ranks.

I guess, I'll do a few proto models for the regiment, if there was plastic Great Coats that be it, so I may wait and do the secial guys and armour frst. Maybe. I'm itching to do the Valkyrie, so that will be the first of many vehicles and I want the Vulcan Megabolter baneblade variant.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/13 21:32:21


Post by: smiling Assassin


Migs, if you do that, well, you sure damn just made sA the happiest girl in the world.

(Proverbial, naturally)

sA


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/14 00:10:23


Post by: CMDante


I often dream of doing a similar thing but then realisation that in my entire lifetime in the hobby I have never owned a fully painted army, let alone a perfectly converted and painted army.

I wish you the best of luck on your endeavour mate, the new cadian command has a greatcoat in it, just buy a couple hundred of them?!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/14 09:12:36


Post by: migsula


I'm getting some of those sculpting shapers today!!! I am really really excited as the thing I hate the most in sculpting is sticking and I've heard these pretty much do not stick into any putty


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/14 11:13:34


Post by: CMDante


The only putty that I have found to stick to them is milliput when it is a bit wet. Other than that, prepare to enjoy "sticky" free sculpting my friend!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/14 12:34:39


Post by: Xanthos


Not meaning to derail here, but where can I find these? I want a piece of this non-sticky action!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/14 13:06:30


Post by: Septic


Must resist urge to make semen joke


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/14 14:18:46


Post by: Moloch


migsula wrote:I'm getting some of those sculpting shapers today!!! I am really really excited as the thing I hate the most in sculpting is sticking and I've heard these pretty much do not stick into any putty


I use Nivea hand creme on my tools. Works like a charm. Not sticky anymore and bonus: The finished GS surface gets ultra-smooth.
Couldn`t recommend that more.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/14 17:06:13


Post by: migsula


Small update - this can only mean more =I=munda models



I've been thinking about the grand plan too, an armed force of the Legion's "Ultramar".


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/14 17:09:37


Post by: Ghost in the Darkness


Migs you ready do enjoy torturing us when were hanging on to this thread looking for any new updates of MODELS.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/14 17:19:06


Post by: model collector


Heart pounding, mouth dry. Please show pics of the models or at least some of the new guys background and ideas.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/14 17:29:25


Post by: Malika2


"Legion's armed Ultramar"? What will that be? :O


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/14 18:24:52


Post by: Pfreck


Yay, more =I=munda!

I like the style of your bases a lot, I'm trying to do something similar with my =I=munda gang.. from what kits are the yellow/tanned pieces of plastic btw?
I'm really looking forward to see some miniatures fit onto these bases!


Cheers



:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/15 11:42:57


Post by: migsula


Thanks.

I use mostly 1/35 tank/vehicle kit parts. You can buy them dirt cheap if you don't care what vehicle it is. WW2 works just as well as modern armour. I use parts from those kits also to do some small detail, like custom headgear and comms on my =I=munda models to better convey scale. On these bases there are parts from Merkava III and a WW2 "vindicator", some GW parts and plasticard strip.

And when it comes to Legion, this can only mean one thing:





:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/15 12:09:07


Post by: CMDante


Oooh, another marine

What head is that? Looks a bit like a filed down scout?

Any chance on a stage by stage tutorial for the marine?

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/15 16:19:40


Post by: smiling Assassin


Do what Dante said. I want to finally make use of that free Termie I got in White Dwarf.

sA


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/15 19:30:32


Post by: migsula


Ok, I'll take pics as I go as much as possible. (ie. I remember in my excitement )

The shapers are fantastic! I sculpted all the flat areas of the marine just now, in one go thanks to not worrying about sticking or using a lubricant or ... And Dante will be proud, I sculpted a new facial expression on the head. It's the flagellant head with a rope in his mouth BTW.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/15 21:29:39


Post by: CMDante


Ah I'm very proud mate! Told you they were the dogs when it comes to sculpting!

It's a good head that one, used it myself for a blood pact head.

Looking forward to pics!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/19 10:59:02


Post by: migsula


I had to - very reluctantly! - put the legion back to their bitz box for a month or so. I need to finish the TWAR for a tournament, but I promise, I'll be back with lots of nice things after that


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/19 22:36:11


Post by: migsula


A few questions to fluff heads out there.

What is the current year in 40k??

What was the name of the early Thunderhawk equivalent the legions used? (my HH books aren't here)

I'm cooking up something big for when the TWAR are done.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/19 22:56:58


Post by: Malika2


Storm Bird if I recall correctly. It could fit an entire company in there. Beyond that there is little info on them.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Stormbird


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/20 03:25:36


Post by: Waaagh_Gonads


migsula wrote:Nothing exciting yet - just proof that I am working on a new Shaddes offe Greye mutant and the "door" thing for Legion Both WIP and getting a lot of details next. The mutie will be about having fun with rust and wear and tear effects, which I intend to really play with come painting.

The door is getting a lot of details on the inside too, alarm systems and small narrative touches that are great fun to do and think. I'm going to try and really capture the material feels and different textures in painting with this one.






Mig, for such a simple conversion, this is brilliant. Is it the nob body and arms with an ungor head and kroot shoulder pad?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/20 06:49:02


Post by: migsula


Gonads: Correct, except the head is from the crypt ghoul kit.

Malika: cheers mate.

Any ideas on the year guys??


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/20 16:19:55


Post by: Platuan4th


No idea on the year, since GW is loathe to tell us things. I know that the 13th Black Crusade apparently ended 9999999.M41(at least according to the dispatch with the results) and that Medusa V happened sometime after that(so, in M42, I've heard from various NON-GW people 1 year, 2 years, and 5 years after), but that's all GW's really done concerning what the "current" date is.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/20 20:20:25


Post by: migsula


That's my impression too. Very late M41 early M42.

Cheers mate.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/20 22:47:49


Post by: CMDante


http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/M42

and http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Timeline

for the whole time line.

Here's what your after mate.

Cheers,

Andrew


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/21 11:01:44


Post by: migsula


MY MAN!

thanks!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/21 17:44:31


Post by: CMDante


Got your back homie!

No worries, now just tell us what you needed it for!

Cheers,

Dante


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2009/03/26 16:28:18


Post by: jackinthetank


It would be cool if you posted some more of your little brother's gang.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2010/02/11 08:40:37


Post by: migsula


Ookey, the silent agent provocateurs are out again I'm trying to sort out a way to host/take part in another =I=munda campaign and finish a few new guys for it.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2010/02/11 12:42:42


Post by: Mellon


migsula wrote:Ookey, the silent agent provocateurs are out again I'm trying to sort out a way to host/take part in another =I=munda campaign and finish a few new guys for it.


And there was much rejoicing! *cheer*


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2010/02/11 14:25:14


Post by: grey_death


Migs projects are always a welcome excitement and jolt to the old inspiration ^_-.


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2010/02/11 20:09:10


Post by: migsula


Thanks my friends. Lets see if I can jolt Hammer and Northern into action too


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2010/02/11 20:33:06


Post by: Malika2


Will this =I=munda gang be another squad of your IG/AL army? That would I think be very brutal!

Congrats on the continuation of your bloodline! (sounds intense huh?)


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2010/02/11 21:33:58


Post by: Llamahead


Thats great news!


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2010/02/12 00:37:51


Post by: azekio


hey can I come and play somehow?


:: Legion :: (=I=munda) @ 2010/02/16 20:36:22


Post by: Acaddon


This blog is inspirational. Totally subscribing to it.