No rules, but you can hear to Jes Goodwin saying he's halfway through the plastics. They say DE are not coming anytime soon (the wondrous 3 months window) but since plastics design usually start about 18 months before final army release we can probably expect sightings of DE around summer next year. Or maybe GD 2009.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?pIndex=3&aId=9400003&start=4

Figures

*waits for DD to enter thread and deny the existance of Dark Eldar whilst baiting DE players to fight back*

BYE

Plastic developement STARTS 18 monts out. So, if he is half-way done with the plastics then the codex should be release in about 11 months?

damn, and I was still clinging to hope that they would be out a bit sooner, still I suppose we seem to have guard coming up next based on rumours and then most people said wolves after that, which would make what 8 months or so we would be due for a new release maybe a bit more, so it may be lining up properly, still it's good that they are finally doing something other than thinking about rules, cause once they have these plastics set up we probably wont be getting told "1 more year"

edit: I was wondering is there a place I can dig up GW models by author to find out what exactly Jes Goodwin has worked on lately.

edit2: He gives a 1 to 2 year estimate in the podcast, this is after saying he really has no solid info on a release date, but he would have an idea on how long his stuff will take so expect a 1 year wait at minimum :(

H.B.M.C. wrote:*waits for DD to enter thread and deny the existance of Dark Eldar whilst baiting DE players to fight back*

BYE

DARK ELDAR ARE A LIE!



These guys sound so trustworthy with their soft voices and english accents.

JohnHwangDD wrote:The DE are still in limbo, and I still think the DE are going to get Squatted, eventually. That's what the evidence strongly suggests.

Every year, rumors pop up saying that DE are "in progress" and will return as an uber army like the WFB Wood Elves. The latest was that Jes Goodwin was making new minis (*not* the Eldar Jetbike or Juan Diaz' test Haemonculi). None of these rumors offer the slightest shred of proof, so this appears to be more wishful thinking than anything else.

It'd be nice to see whether the GW still cares about the DE, but it sure doesn't seem like it. Pity, really.

GW Podcast wrote:Jervis: "I'd just like to ask you what projects you are working on currently that you can tell us about and what kinda things are you looking forward to doing in the future."

Jes: "Well its not the much of a secret, its Dark Eldar next. I'm half-way through doing plastics for those."

Not a secret to anyone -- except maybe DD.

He'll still find some way to make himself right. People like him are always like that.

BYE

Well you know, if a meteor crashes into england he'd be correct. Maybe he just knows something we don't.

Yeah it's good, you wouldn't have your top sculptor putting months of work into a race just to crush it, so this is great news in terms of confirming that it's coming, but god I'm sick of "maybe next year" with them.

I'm pretty sure I've seen him quoted as saying he had the new raider sitting in his office a few months back, And the new artwork has the warriors looking a bit different so I reckon those two and the jetbike are a given, what else can we expect in plastic though?

This kind of news is why I glance the forums everyday.

i once went to a seminar with Jervis at the GT, i passed out as the mans voice is that boring, with these podcasts i have finally found a cure for my insomnia, i never thought i would say this but thanks Jervis

H.B.M.C. wrote:He'll still find some way to make himself right. People like him are always like that.

BYE

You know what they say: Ignorance is bliss, so he can jam his fingers in his ears and go "lalala" all he wants.

Ok, ok get off DD and discuss the actual rumor guys.

Aw c'mon Frazz. If we keep it up he might put us all on ignore.

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You know, after 10 years in the making (has it been that long, I was still at the University then), this should be the greatest Codex ever. I wonder what 10 years of games design does to a S3, AP6, 24" Range Rapid Fire Weapon?

Str 3 AP 5 ?

Splinter weapons are already AP 5.

Only change in the splinter rifle I have heard is that it would become an Assault weapon. Sort of like a longer range, lower strength shuriken catapult.

I still say it's a ruse so they can spring Codex Squats on us. That's been 15 years in the making!

Saldiven wrote:Splinter weapons are already AP 5.

Only change in the splinter rifle I have heard is that it would become an Assault weapon. Sort of like a longer range, lower strength shuriken catapult.

It has got to get rending then, right?

Or is that too 4th edition?

Alpharius wrote:

It has got to get rending then, right?

Or is that too 4th edition?

Nah, poison is the new rending. Check out the amount of troops that have access to hellfire rounds in the Space Marine Codex.

Umm... Sergeants, sternguard, and captains/masters? Oh, and scouts get the one shot template for their heavy bolter too.

His Master's Voice wrote:No rules, but you can hear to Jes Goodwin saying he's halfway through the plastics. They say DE are not coming anytime soon (the wondrous 3 months window) but since plastics design usually start about 18 months before final army release we can probably expect sightings of DE around summer next year. Or maybe GD 2009.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?pIndex=3&aId=9400003&start=4

GW actually says something about Dark Eldar?

Hmm... It's December 1st, not April 1st...

So, there might be something to this after all.

Tho, if it's December 2008 that Jes is working on plastics development, then I think we're probably looking at a Q4 2009 / 1H 2010 release.

Assuming GW doesn't "push it back" or delay it again, as has happened so many times before...
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As for that plate of crow, I'm happy to chow down, but first GW's going to have to print an actual Codex that I can hold in my hands!

ShumaGorath wrote:Umm... Sergeants, sternguard, and captains/masters? Oh, and scouts get the one shot template for their heavy bolter too.

Thats 3x more than the old codex!

Well he says they're half way through development. That says to me they're about 7-8 months off. 5 months to complete final designs, 2-3 to produce the neccesary supply for release.

Orks waited close to a decade and they got a great codex, DE waited over a decade and now will have the most broken army in the game. Or so most of us Dark Kin hope so.

As for that plate of crow

That is possibly the most british thing I've ever heard. I had no idea what that picture even meant.

JohnHwangDD wrote:
As for that plate of crow, I'm happy to chow down, but first GW's going to have to print an actual Codex that I can hold in my hands!

This is both a very gracious and a very understandable position to take.

As much as I wanted to send you a big, fat when I read this thread, I chose to contain myself, because I, too, have learned to only believe that GW is going to actually do something when I see it sitting for sale at my FLGS.

ShumaGorath wrote:

As for that plate of crow

That is possibly the most british thing I've ever heard. I had no idea what that picture even meant.

You've never heard the phrase "to eat crow," meaning, "to publicly admit that your pronouncements were completely wrong?"

Well, after this wait, even 8-10 months out looks close. I'm afraid of what I'll think of my wyches onces the new plastics are released, but as long as we get new rules, all is well.

GW could always ask 3d realms to develop a video game tie in with the release of Dark Eldar.. They're pretty good at 10 year production cycles

Pariah Press wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

As for that plate of crow

That is possibly the most british thing I've ever heard. I had no idea what that picture even meant.

You've never heard the phrase "to eat crow," meaning, "to publicly admit that your pronouncements were completely wrong?"

Nope, never once.

The youth of the world today...

For shame...

ShumaGorath wrote:Nope, never once.

Probably because you've never admitted to being wrong about something.

ZING!




BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Nope, never once.

Probably because you've never admitted to being wrong about something.

ZING!




BYE

Thats because I've never been wrong about anything.

Ha! The hight of irony. Shummy you split my sides with laughter.



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misterheavy wrote:Well, after this wait, even 8-10 months out looks close. I'm afraid of what I'll think of my wyches onces the new plastics are released, but as long as we get new rules, all is well.

From what I've seen you will probably want to sell all your models and start over again. . .IMHO the look is much, much, much better.

Can I ask yakface what exactly have you seen? Just the new artwork or something extra?

Maybe the 10+ years of waiting is the worlds worst run grass roots advertising campaign. I have never had the impulse to buy DE, but with the never ending talk of new figs and books I now feel strangly compelled to pick them up whenever that is.

I was going to ask, but felt I was too much of a newb to directly say anything to the owner of the site.

@Corey - that's pretty funny.

But if you really have the spirit of Rose in you, you shouldn't be afraid.

Ah, a fan of the Devil himself. If you notice the avatar, that would be Bix, the insane accoutant. A beast in combat but in the end not a true devil.

Drunkspleen wrote:Can I ask yakface what exactly have you seen? Just the new artwork or something extra?

I have indeed seen/held some things. Exactly what, I cannot say so you'll just have to choose to believe me or not.

But what I have seen did indeed impress me.

yakface wrote:

Drunkspleen wrote:Can I ask yakface what exactly have you seen? Just the new artwork or something extra?

I have indeed seen/held some things. Exactly what, I cannot say so you'll just have to choose to believe me or not.

But what I have seen did indeed impress me.

Wild speculation go!

I thought the News & Rumour was a place to report - and this may shock some people - news and rumours, and not a place to go "I know something you don't know!".

Especially not from the Admin...

BYE

Corey85 wrote:Ah, a fan of the Devil himself. If you notice the avatar, that would be Bix, the insane accoutant. A beast in combat but in the end not a true devil.

Not everybody can be Spar or Li. Much less the man-machine Prime.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I thought the News & Rumour was a place to report - and this may shock some people - news and rumours, and not a place to go "I know something you don't know!".

Especially not from the Admin...

BYE

You're bad at 'wild speculation go!'.

*cough*

Sorry.

Those guys on the Green Goblin skyboards, they'll be getting a new kit and fancy new rules to go with them.

Warp Beasts will as well, but they'll be the one unit pr Codex that gets a new kit but has rules that suck (like the Thunderfires and Possessed and Tankbustaz).

Raider/Ravager new kit, as well as new basic troops. Wyches get a new kit. Archon gets a few different models that don't suck.

There's a chance that Incubi stay the same, and get crap rules because of it.

Jes's pet project will be the Reaver Jetbikes, who will get lots of lovley attention with a great looking new kit but won't change much in the rules.

There will be 3-6 Special Character, each more mandatory than the last. Each will have a special rule that is AWESOMESAUCE, meaning that regular Commanders are never taken.

Drazar, or whatever that guy with the cool claws is, will get a new model even though he's one of the few good models in the range.

They might just drop Mandrakes altogether.

New metal release for Grotesques will be similar to original Oblits to current Oblits (ie. a huge increase in both quality and cost $$$).

Good Shummy? Should I keep going?

BYE

yakface wrote:

Drunkspleen wrote:Can I ask yakface what exactly have you seen? Just the new artwork or something extra?

I have indeed seen/held some things. Exactly what, I cannot say so you'll just have to choose to believe me or not.

But what I have seen did indeed impress me.

That will do. This is news and rumors, not random hinting. If you can't give us news of what you've seen, give us a rumor. Say "I might have seen the following..."

And why can you not tell us? Did you swear an oath to JJ? Will Jes Goodwin execute you with a slayersword trophy?

H.B.M.C. wrote:They might just drop Mandrakes altogether.

Good speculation, but with the list of units as thin as it is, I'm sure they'll include the Mandrakes.

If all they do is sculpt them to resemble and pose like the Mandrakes in Dawn of War, I'll be happy. The current Mandrakes have that ancient, 2-dimensional Bloodbowl-esque pose.

And I'm positive I'll want to replace my whole model line. You just can't look at all the other armies right now, and then at your DE and think "DE are still on par!" No matter how much you love the army, their models just... Well you all know.

Archonate wrote:The current Mandrakes have that ancient, 2-dimensional Bloodbowl-esque pose.

Given how big a fan Mr. Morley was of Blood Bowl, were you surprised by this?

Archonate wrote:And I'm positive I'll want to replace my whole model line. You just can't look at all the other armies right now, and then at your DE and think "DE are still on par!" No matter how much you love the army, their models just... Well you all know.

It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people did the same thing. To me it's like the complete revision that Necrons got. So, so, so much better than their original versions.

BYE

I think that Lelith Hesperax and Drazhar, Master of Blades are fine models. I wouldn't mind if they stuck around, assuming they fit in with Jes's new vision for the DE. Of course, I've never actually even SEEN a DE model in real life, so who am I to comment, really?

yakface wrote:From what I've seen you will probably want to sell all your models and start over again. . .IMHO the look is much, much, much better.

Agreed the comparison between the old & new is like night & day. That's what a decade of sculpting development will do for you.

I don't know if I should try and sell my old army or use them as proxies until I can replace them with the new stuff.

First I doubt its really a decade of development. More like a sitting around 7-8 years then spending the last 2-3 developing them.

Second, I understand the whole keeping "what you saw" or "who told you" a secret and all, but it seems to bit against the spirit of a forum based on that sort of information. Its cool and all to want to maintain a relationship with someone who's showing you something in confidence, I get that, but seriously you might as well work for GW and be on their payroll to not say something more. I just hope its that one thing and not some sort of exclusivity power trip. Even if you can't discuss any specific models, how about giving us your impression of the aesthetic changes? Or some general comparison to pre-existing models, are they as good as the Dark Elves?

aka_mythos wrote:First I doubt its really a decade of development. More like a sitting around 7-8 years then spending the last 2-3 developing them.

Second, I understand the whole keeping "what you saw" or "who told you" a secret and all, but it seems to bit against the spirit of a forum based on that sort of information. Its cool and all to want to maintain a relationship with someone who's showing you something in confidence, I get that, but seriously you might as well work for GW and be on their payroll to not say something more. I just hope its that one thing and not some sort of exclusivity power trip. Even if you can't discuss any specific models, how about giving us your impression of the aesthetic changes? Or some general comparison to pre-existing models, are they as good as the Dark Elves?

First of all, it's ten years of general sculpting development, not ten years of DE development.

Secondly, Brimstone has always been more of a confirmation man rather than a rumor bringer, and everybody were happy with that, so I don't see why it's so bad now.

Brimstone wrote:I don't know if I should try and sell my old army or use them as proxies until I can replace them with the new stuff.

Proxy Dark Eldar models for other dark Eldar models, what an odd turn of phrase. Won't you just be using your Dark Eldar models with the new codex? Sure you'll be replacing models in the long run but that's not using proxies.

aka_mythos wrote:Even if you can't discuss any specific models, how about giving us your impression of the aesthetic changes? Or some general comparison to pre-existing models, are they as good as the Dark Elves?

Better than the Dark Elves IMO

But I'm saying as much as I can currently, I don't divulge information unless the person providing it says I can.

Until then I'll hint, direct and general push people along the correct lines as much as I'm able to.

As for using proxies it all depends on what units remain and what new ones there are.

Up to par with the new Cold One Knights?

Frazzled wrote:Up to par with the new Cold One Knights?

From my point of view better but others may disagree.

Good Shummy? Should I keep going?

No, your sarcasm has ruined 'wild speculation go!'. You're not allowed to play any more you kill the fun.

yakface wrote:

Drunkspleen wrote:Can I ask yakface what exactly have you seen? Just the new artwork or something extra?

I have indeed seen/held some things. Exactly what, I cannot say so you'll just have to choose to believe me or not.

But what I have seen did indeed impress me.

Brimstone wrote:

yakface wrote:From what I've seen you will probably want to sell all your models and start over again. . .IMHO the look is much, much, much better.

Agreed the comparison between the old & new is like night & day. That's what a decade of sculpting development will do for you.

I don't know if I should try and sell my old army or use them as proxies until I can replace them with the new stuff.

I hate both of you.



Ozymandias, King of Kings

On another note. My Dark Eldar is the only 40k army that I have painted. Not sure if I want to get rid of the (admittedly bad) old models and start painting a new army all over again.

Probably just pick up the new shiny bits but continue using my converted wyches (from Dark Elf Witch Elves) and outdated warriors.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

"I've held things you people wouldn't believe. Raiders, fresh from the molds, gleaming. I watched new grotesques glitter in the dark near the White Dwarf section. All those models will be lost in time...like squats...Time for 6th edition."

Brimstone wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Up to par with the new Cold One Knights?

From my point of view better but others may disagree.

Pah! Now you're just talkin' crazy!

dienekes96 wrote:"I've held things you people wouldn't believe. Raiders, fresh from the molds, gleaming. I watched new grotesques glitter in the dark near the White Dwarf section. All those models will be lost in time...like squats...Time for 6th edition."

Blade Runner was a film... although the name is oddly appropriate given the thread's subject.

BYE

God I hate Blade Runner... nothing like a film where you cannot actually see what's going on.

His Master's Voice wrote:Brimstone has always been more of a confirmation man rather than a rumor bringer, and everybody were happy with that, so I don't see why it's so bad now.

I know that and its something I appreciate. I just believe its possible to speak about it more without giving away anything specific. I'm not trying to bully him into revealing things, I just think he's being a bit too over protective. Things like

Better than the Dark Elves IMO

... is the sort of thing I mean. Couple that with a bit of "it lives upto the newer artwork"... or "with the quality of these sculpts, GW may want to redo the basic eldar". Commentary like that is all I'm asking for. So I appologize if that previous post sounded full of spite, it was unintentional, but now that I re-read it I think it could be misconstrude that way.

Ozymandias wrote:On another note. My Dark Eldar is the only 40k army that I have painted

You've only had a decade to complete it, so I would hope so!

aka_mythos wrote:

His Master's Voice wrote:Brimstone has always been more of a confirmation man rather than a rumor bringer, and everybody were happy with that, so I don't see why it's so bad now.

I know that and its something I appreciate. I just believe its possible to speak about it more without giving away anything specific. I'm not trying to bully him into revealing things, I just think he's being a bit too over protective.

Neither Brimstone nor Yak started the thread. They're not playing "I know something you don't know." They're just being careful and sticking within boundaries which will allow them to keep getting information. Brimstone has been a very reliable source for a couple of years now, IIRC, because he's been circumspect. Work with him- give him guesses and things to confirm or deny.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Blade Runner was a film... although the name is oddly appropriate given the thread's subject.

Blade Runner is better than whatever your favorite film is. The director's cut is better than the original with the voiceovers, though I can respect people who prefer the original too.

I think this thread is a good example of how GW fails at PR. Two "internet celebrities" have seen new DE models. They tell everyone how cool they are. Some excitement ensues, but not a lot, because no one else gets to see jack. Rather than just showing Brim, Yak, and the other select few, it would seem to make more sense to simply release pictures for everyone, that way we can all geek out. It just seems to be a wasted opportunity.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Ozymandias wrote:On another note. My Dark Eldar is the only 40k army that I have painted

You've only had a decade to complete it, so I would hope so!

What can I say, I'm a slow painter.

Now back to painting 3 armies for Adepticon in April.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

I've waited so long whats another year or so. Just the other day I met someone's child who plays 40k who was younger then half of my DE army.....

gardeth wrote:I've waited so long whats another year or so. Just the other day I met someone's child who plays 40k who was younger then half of my DE army.....

That's kinda spooky.

Though, I've got BattleTech miniatures in my collection that are almost as old as I am, and that's pretty scary.

BYE

I bought a sealed vintage Transformer the other day that is older than I am, and then I un-sealed it!

Prometheum5 wrote:I bought a sealed vintage Transformer the other day that is older than I am, and then I un-sealed it!

Good for you. Free the toys!

FlammingGaunt wrote:Figures

YEP! Figures sculped by Jes no less!

My house was built in the same year that I was born. Does that count for something?

Prometheum5 wrote:I bought a sealed vintage Transformer the other day that is older than I am, and then I un-sealed it!

I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of transformer nerds suddenly cried out in terror and were instantly rendered irrelevant. I think something wonderful has happened.

I salute you. Which character was it? I've seen some boxed G1 stuff going for $300-600 each on eBay.

BYE

I found a Cyclonus at the comic shop... the box was mostly wrecked, but the toy was still sealed on the backing card... with the holiday sale the toy cost me a little over $50... cheaper than I've ever seen a loose complete Cyclonus go for.

Very nice.

Pity it wasn't a NIB Starscream. You could've retired...

BYE

Starscream was ghhhhey. Buzzsaw was born again hard.

And I agree with Ragnar...Blade Runner is better than your favorite movie. Unless your favorite movie is Heat.

My favorite movie is Big Fish. I think.. Bladerunner can go to hell, my favorite movie kicks its ass.

dienekes96 wrote:Starscream was ghhhhey. Buzzsaw was born again hard.

And I agree with Ragnar...Blade Runner is better than your favorite movie. Unless your favorite movie is Heat.

My Alien impregnates your Blade Runner...

Heat is also preposterously awesome. Big Fish was really good too (Tim Burton tamping it down a bit + Albert Finney = win), but not as epic and amazing as Heat or BR.

Oh, and I’m looking forward to new Dark Eldar.

Brimstone, any hints available yet for what kind of NEW units we might be looking at? Are Harlequins going to be available, as hinted at by some of Thorpe’s fluff about them recruiting from both Craftworld and Dark Eldar warriors?

theHandofGork wrote:I think this thread is a good example of how GW fails at PR. Two "internet celebrities" have seen new DE models. They tell everyone how cool they are. Some excitement ensues, but not a lot, because no one else gets to see jack. Rather than just showing Brim, Yak, and the other select few, it would seem to make more sense to simply release pictures for everyone, that way we can all geek out. It just seems to be a wasted opportunity.

I know what you're trying to say, but I think GW handled previews very poorly in the past.

1) Showing peeks of models eight months out just leads to people buying fewer of the existing models for the next eight months.

2) It's probably better to save the "oooos and ahhhs" until closer to the release date, so that customers can actually act on their "oooos" and buy something.

3) Showing WIP, unpainted or even just okay painted stuff doesn't put your product in the best light, and creates bad first impressions.

The last one is big to me. People here screamed about how bad Typhus was because of a somewhat blurry pic of a model that was clearly not painted by the 'Eavy Metal team from some event. After we saw the "official" preview, there was a lot of backpedaling. You don't see Mazda unveiling half-finished or unpainted cars. I have no idea what ever possessed GW to start showing unfinished models.

As a fan, I don't like how they handle previews. As a professional, I understand.

Conceptually, the Dark Eldar do nothing for me.

But the idea of a model range predominantly designed (with lots of sculpting) by Jes Goodwin has me very interested as well.

Jes is the man. The proof is the Genestealer Cult I just took to the Baltimore GT. Those metal hybrids still hold up versus today's models, and they date back to something like 1989. The reason? Jes was involved.

gorgon wrote:

theHandofGork wrote:it would seem to make more sense to simply release pictures for everyone, that way we can all geek out. It just seems to be a wasted opportunity.

1) Showing peeks of models eight months out just leads to people buying fewer of the existing models for the next eight months.

Yeah, because Dark Eldar are selling *so* well right now, and they forecast *so* much additional sales over the next 8 (or however many) months...

God forbid that GW risks cutting of that huge cash flow of money from Dark Eldar sales... :S
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Seriously, should have run a Dark Eldar "clearance" sale this holiday season and then just have had the Dark Eldar line go dark for a year.

During this time, they can put up an official notice that "new Codex and models coming December, 2009!" (or 2010, or whenever), kind of like the Tyranid teaser silhouettes from their major revamp in 3E.

At least GW would put a marker down saying definitively that:
- new stuff is in the works,
- it's a whole-line revamp, and
- there is a clear deadline for completion and release.

Particularly for Dark Eldar, who have been treated so shabbily in the past.

Plus, from a player POV, you don't make your customers into a bunch of total retards for dropping $300+ USD on old crappy models from the last millennium when modern, shiny models come out a couple months later.

Seriously, GW

Oh, I think DE is a case where an early sneak peek couldn't do any harm (although again, I'd have the team paint it up instead of showing us a bare model).

But as you point out often, DE are kind of a unique case among 40K armies because of their MO-only status. My comment was aimed at their overall policy -- not DE in particular.

OK, understood & agreed!

gorgon wrote:Oh, I think DE is a case where an early sneak peek couldn't do any harm (although again, I'd have the team paint it up instead of showing us a bare model).

Oh trust me, a non-painted model would be just as stimulating. It gives the impression of "this is so new, we haven't even had time to paint it, and you're the first to see it!" And I can come up with my own ideas of how to paint them, without mental images of GWs paint jobs cramping my style.

Mannahnin wrote:
Brimstone, any hints available yet for what kind of NEW units we might be looking at? Are Harlequins going to be available, as hinted at by some of Thorpe’s fluff about them recruiting from both Craftworld and Dark Eldar warriors?

Take with grain of salt---> There doesn't appear to be any new units, but then again there doesn't appear to be any existing models that aren't being redesigned, so it seems like a fair trade-off IMHO.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Plus, from a player POV, you don't make your customers into a bunch of total retards for dropping $300+ USD on old crappy models from the last millennium when modern, shiny models come out a couple months later.

I know that is targeted at me since I was talking about making a 1k list of dark eldar for $300 . Though I might wait and save up a butt load of moneys and throw it all down when the time comes(i dids the thinking thing when I was bored at work). Though I hope when the newe DE are released they have a good battleforce. Unlike most of the battleforces you buy now. I'm looking at YOU marines! I've been waiting so long to play dark eldar(i'm a huge fan of anything pirate). It was the first army I wanted to play as, but since no one around here sells them that was a no go and I went with the space marines instead(been playing them for 6 years now and I don't even have much of them painted they are too boring to paint for me).

I'm hoping in spring we get some pics or something....I'd even take CAD images... I just don't want to play space marines for another full year....zzzz...

Till then I quess I can buy models from other ranges I like and practice my painting skills and see if i can get any kind of green stuff skill I'm so bad with GS >_>

@Plastic, actually, it wasn't. I think I posted in this thread before I postd in yours. If not, no offense was intended, and I apologize, as the situation was entirely coincidental.

For those of you who don't know how to use google

Those Greens are not part of the current work, they were test figs by an applying sculptor. That artwork is in the main rule book.

JohnHwangDD wrote:@Plastic, actually, it wasn't. I think I posted in this thread before I postd in yours. If not, no offense was intended, and I apologize, as the situation was entirely coincidental.

o I didn't even check to see the times at which they were posted. Even if it was posted at me I didn't take any offense to it. I kinda laughed at it.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of transformer nerds suddenly cried out in terror and were instantly rendered irrelevant. I think something wonderful has happened.

That was hilarious. You win a pack of Morleys.

Aduro wrote:Those Greens are not part of the current work, they were test figs by an applying sculptor. That artwork is in the main rule book.

The rule book artwork is pretty much part of this Dark Eldar redo. The green while not part of the redo, are really a glimpse at some of the ideas that are going through the collective mind of GW. The rumor that was going around a while ago was that redo of the DE was redone when they weren't satisfied with the work, even though it was done as a test piece, it could be considered as part of that not good enough redo pile, but it still gives you a sense of direction.