Sorry if this is old news, I couldn't find it anywhere else. Appearently, GW will bring out a new plastic super-heavy vehicle for Apocalypse coming march.

drummroll please

A SHADOWSWORD!!!
Or, to be more precise, a kit in which the Shadowsword is only one of several possibilities, 6 to be exact.
I can't give you the pic right now, because my Firefox is screwing around, but I thought you should know.

Word of a shadowsword has been around for a while, but no ones had pictures of the plastic kit yet.

Am I allowed to post pictures out of a White Dwarf in here? Because then I could take a photo an put it online.

I'm told it also makes the Vulcan Armed one as well..

Sign me (as yet non-existent) Orkses up for 3. And a Stompa. Or 6.

Who said I was mental?

If this is illegal, just delete it

Gorgeous... I'd like to know what the other vehicle options in the kit are, but I do believe I will be buying that kit either way. I held off getting a Baneblade as I found stuff to make my own with, but getting that Shadowsword and detailing it up right would be a blast.

Oh thats a thing of beauty that!

Definitely buying this kit. How many of them is dependent on which variants it can make.

oh no, I'm due to get some back pay soon, I can see me ending up with no money, but a fantastic superheavy tank Regiment!

The German is translated too (via Babelfish)

New superheavy tanks! Even if we with the apokalypse end to all hires connect, does not correspond regarding being hammer 40,000 by any means to the truth - in the Marz a fulle of Apocalypse novelties appears, among other things a brand-new super+heavy tank. Correctly, the Shadowsword shown above is not a Forge World model, but a new plastic construction set! And the best at the thing: this is only of six super+heavy variants, which you with divide from the box build can! In order to find more uber the supplies out fur Apocalypse - to be silent from the other Marz novelties completely - you must wait unfortunately still up to the thick special expenditure 159.

That is one awfull translation
Maybe I use this one as base for a Pleaguereaper instead of the normal Baneblade.

Yeah... babelfish is godawful at times... and my German is nowhere near good enough to translate it by myself.

Neue Superschwere panzer! Tank news always sounds better in German. Compound words were made for feats of engineering.

at the translation. gives you an idea tho

Top work Mr. Rama.

*yoinks*

that is a sweet looking kit indeed.

Six variants?

Shadowsword
Stormblade
Stormsword
Stormlord
???
???

And a date is given: March. Oh yes.

Ah, now my IG force will have some Vitamin "D" to combat the plethora of Stompas and Gargants that are in my store. This should evenl things out a bit..hehehe

Capt K

I can only assume they'll be making yet another Apocalypse book, because that model is in conflict with the Shadowsword rules in IAA, as it has lascannons and two more heavy bolters than the previous variants.

Agamemnon2 wrote:I can only assume they'll be making yet another Apocalypse book, because that model is in conflict with the Shadowsword rules in IAA, as it has lascannons and two more heavy bolters than the previous variants.

I assumed that when the first rumours of the Shadowsword being made plastic popped up. GW may be possible of alot of things, but producing a plastic kit without readily available rules that would make people buy those same kits?

Or they'll just update the datasheet for the Shadowsword....no need to write a book.

Capt K

Who knows, maybe GW will pass these kits off as true Mars pattern vehicles, hence the extra guns etc.

hmm so you reckon its gonna be the baneblade included? caus eif not i'd buy one of those and one Baneblade and then make two differnt variants

I hope the giant Plasma cannon is in the kit

Sgt.Roadkill wrote:hmm so you reckon its gonna be the baneblade included? caus eif not i'd buy one of those and one Baneblade and then make two differnt variants

Probably complete Baneblade kit with enough parts for one turret-less variant.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I'm told it also makes the Vulcan Armed one as well..

That is the only one I want. Vulcan megabolters, biatch!

Not for the IG, but maybe for Space Wolves (I'll make the fluff work, nerd, don't you worry) or Orkseses.

My Orks are getting one.

Just *think* of the Dakka!

Not to mention filling it's transport to the Gunnells with lots and lots of Nobs. Hurr hurr hurr!

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:My Orks are getting one.

Just *think* of the Dakka!

Not to mention filling it's transport to the Gunnells with lots and lots of Nobs. Hurr hurr hurr!

Actually I'm pretty certain that when this rolls out, there will be another orky product stomping around that might interest you more.

I may have to break down and get one

I'll get the lot.

My Boyz want to travel in *style*

Besides, how can I turn down that much Dakka? I mean...think of the Dakka.....just think of the Dakka

Now that would be a battlewagon.

CaptKaruthors wrote:Or they'll just update the datasheet for the Shadowsword....no need to write a book.

Capt K

So they'll update the datasheet for a Forge World book that you can't get in stores? Again, the rules need to be readily available to really sell the kit.

Errm...you can get Forgeworld books in UK Stores.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Errm...you can get Forgeworld books in UK Stores.

But not US stores(that I've seen, aside from the Bunkers) or FLGS.

nice, very nice

I want a new plastic construction set!

You know, another thing that just occurred to me is how useful a set of plastic titan-type weapons like the plasma mega blast gun and such that are used on the self-propelled-gun bane variants could be for Titan builders

dienekes96 wrote:That is the only one I want. Vulcan megabolters, biatch!

Amen! VULCAN MEGABOLTERS!

Vulcan Megabolters.

whrrrrrrrrr............

As someone who has put together a 100% resin Baneblade and Stormblade, let me just say THANK CHRIST for this kit. They will actually fit together and won't be miscast.

BYE

All those extra titan-sized weapon bitz are gonna make a whole lotta bitz for scratch-built Warhounds. The non-turrety-top-bit is (to use the technical term) is also going to be very useful for titan shoulders. I forsee a new rennaissance in scratchbuilds coming from this kit.

And I'm buying 3. I want a Stormlord and 2x titan-killers.

Haven't been this wound-up about something non-Eldar in some time. Apocalypse is GW's best marketing ploy in decades.

I like it!

This will save me a lot of trouble in building a conversion.
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Let's see:

Shadowsword w/ Volcano Cannon
Stormsword w/ short barrel
Stormblade w/ Plasma blastgun
Stormlord w/ Vulcan Megabolter in forward superstructure (for transport)
+ ??? w/ Inferno Cannon
+ ???

If GW is doing the PBG and VMB in plastic, along with a single TLD, it makes sense to set up the full range of known Titan weapons on plastic sprue. So the Inferno cannon is an absoute certainty for the fifth variant.

For the sixth, I could see a Gorgon-like Transport of some sort, as they will have the transport-related bitz for the StormLord, so a couple more bitz wouldn't hurt.

Or they do a SuperShadowSword with double-barreled Turbo-Laser Destroyer

Of course, once the weapons are on plastic sprue, FW can cut some more cost out of their Warhound Titans by imply including the relevant sprue.

So, that is six NEW Baneblade variants, right?

The 'regular' one, and the one with the big ol' flamer (sorry!) don't count as two of them, right?

Not sure. The article doesn't seem to say new variants, just 6 variants, so it may just be the original box plus new sprues that add the new non-turret plus 4 new weapons.

So:
Baneblade
Hellhammer
Shadowsword
Stormsword
Stormblade
Stormlord

I want... no, I NEED a Stormhammer!!!

Alpharius wrote:I want... no, I NEED a Stormhammer!!!

I think that would require a bit more work than a few more sprues would add, no matter how much I agree with you.

BrookM wrote:Six variants?

Shadowsword
Stormblade
Stormsword
Stormlord
???
???

And a date is given: March. Oh yes.

I say only APOC III.
Imperial titan-hunter vs ork-walker.

For the kit:
Shadowsword+Stormblade+Stormsword use the same upper hull.
Stormlord would need a different upper hull.
Baneblade and hellhammer would be upper hull piece n° 3.
But i doubt 3 pieces in one box.

OTOH the shadowsword is available in resin and could be transferred to plastic and the stormlord exists at least in CAD.

The unknown tanks:

Stormhammer = i think not . would be upper hull piece n° 4.
new Tank = no hints, so i believe its either a warhound-weapon mounted at a shadowsword ( laser ? missiles ? flamer/melta ? ).

I can wait.

I'm thinking two new frames:

1. Weapons Frame w/Vocanon Cannon, Heavy Siege Cannon, Plasma Blast Gun and Vulkan Megabolter.
2. Hull frame that can be mounted rear to create Stormblade/Shadowsword/Stormsword or forward to create the Stormhammer.

Two sprues max.

BYE

Looks good fer a humie wagon. I just hope that this little tidbit means that the pictures of a proppa superheavy, the ork stompa, can't be far behind...

*Crosses fingers and hopes the stompa looks like the concept art seen months ago*

H.B.M.C. wrote:I'm thinking two new frames:

1. Weapons Frame w/Vocanon Cannon, Heavy Siege Cannon, Plasma Blast Gun and Vulkan Megabolter.
2. Hull frame that can be mounted rear to create Stormblade/Shadowsword/Stormsword or forward to create the Stormhammer.

Two sprues max.

BYE

Could agree if we compare the WD pic with the Apoc reloaded pic. Seems possible to mount the "shadowsword" frame forward
to create a STORMLORD.

Platuan4th wrote:

Alpharius wrote:I want... no, I NEED a Stormhammer!!!

I think that would require a bit more work than a few more sprues would add, no matter how much I agree with you.

Sadly, I think you're right...

JohnHwangDD wrote:I like it!

Of course, once the weapons are on plastic sprue, FW can cut some more cost out of their Warhound Titans by imply including the relevant sprue.

Been hitting the Kool-Aid much? Is there any precedence for that kind of consumer-friendly move? The only way this makes any sense is if the long-rumoured plastic Warhound sees the light of day. Even then, I'm sure (and really, I'd hope) the FW kit would stay a standalone affair all cast in glorious more-detailed resin.

I for one can't wait to see some more detail about this kit, regardless.

We wont be seeing any details for some time to come I think. They are slated for March, so the official previews wont crop up until February most likely.

Yes 'cause God-forbid GW ever let us know what products they're going to release...

BYE

Ok I really need 18 of them 3 of all the variants and a full company of guard two more warhounds two reavers and my warloard rubs hands togeather

then realises fw expensive can't get titans

Alpharius wrote:I want... no, I NEED a Stormhammer!!!

That is actually a very difficult conversion. The quad sponsons are set, but the central hull and dual turrets require a lot of work.

I'm sure FW will do a nice job, though.

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1hadhq wrote:Shadowsword+Stormblade+Stormsword use the same upper hull.
Stormlord would need a different upper hull.
Baneblade and hellhammer would be upper hull piece n° 3.

OK, I now agree that this is 6 variants total:
- Baneblade
- Hellhammer
- Shadosword
- Stormblade
- Stormsword
- Stormlord

As I noted earlier, the Stormlord simply mounts the superstructure foward in the hull, rather than back. What the Stormlord needs is a new mid-hull piece to bridge betwen the engine and the forward superstructure (with the VMB).

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Prometheum5 wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:Of course, once the weapons are on plastic sprue, FW can cut some more cost out of their Warhound Titans by imply including the relevant sprue.

Been hitting the Kool-Aid much?

Is there any precedence for that kind of consumer-friendly move?

The only way this makes any sense is if the long-rumoured plastic Warhound sees the light of day.

I said "cut cost", not "cut price". There's a *big* difference.

Just recently, GW cut UK pricing to refund a portion of the reduced VAT / GST. Not all of it, but some of it. Also, when GW moved from resin BB hulls & chassis to plastic Arkurian base, the models got a lot cheaper, too. Obviously, we conclude that Baneblades are selling far in excess of GW's original plan.

If GW does it right, the Warhound cold be done in plastic. And far more economically if the weapon molds for the default PBG & VMB are already recouped via Shadowsword sales.

BrookM wrote:Six variants?

Shadowsword
Stormblade
Stormsword
Stormlord
???
???

plague reaper, skul hammer

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Alpharius wrote:I want... no, I NEED a Stormhammer!!!

That is actually a very difficult conversion. The quad sponsons are set, but the central hull and dual turrets require a lot of work.

I'm sure FW will do a nice job, though.

____

I'm sure they could, but what I would give for a plastic one!

Still, we'll see what the final '6' are.

Might be something that would get me close in plastic...

True, tho the plastic Baneblade has gotten a lot of people a lot closer than they've been since Epic first came out.

Good point, but I need to get 'closer'.

Right now, all of my conversion energy is going towards infantry sized stuff.

I can't get worked up enough for anything larger.

At least, not yet!

Hi guys, translation for the text :

Even if we mean Apokalypse for the end of days, it doe´s not apply to Warhammer 40k.
In March we will release a bunch of new Apokalypse stuff, one of it will be a super-heavy tank.
Right! The picture shown above isn´t one of A Forgeworld model but instead it´s a new plastic kit.
And the best part is : This is just one of the six versions you can build from the kit.
To get more information about the reinforcements for Apokalypse - and not to mention the march releases -
you´ll have to wait for the special release #159.

Danke, danke!

Something to loot!

Anung Un Rama wrote:If this is illegal, just delete it

If that's illegal, I don't want to be legal!

If there's a Stormblade option, I may be unable to resist. One more reason to finish painting my Warhound Titan, so I have at least a modicum of an excuse...

I will be having all six superheavy variants decorating the cardboard box that I will have to live in if I buy them, but I don't care!

So wait, what WD are we on?

Scottywan82 wrote:So wait, what WD are we on?

The German one.

In a cost cutting measure with the current financial climate GW is reducing WD to a single world-wide issue. German was chosen to the language for this new consolidated WD. Sucks for us English speakers, but hey, it's the finance world. It's either world-wide depression with multi-language WD, or rising stock figures and German WD.

BYE

the 6 variants do not include Hellhammer /Baneblade
all new
all awesome (so you'll need 6 of them!)

If that is correct, then, well, that is awesome!

Are we sure?

I mean, from a shelf-space point of view, a kit that has everything in it makes more sense. The Baneblade takes up the shelf space of a starter-box. I don't see the Stompa being much different. So they're going to add two such boxes rather than consolidate this new one and the old one (kind've like the new Redeemer/Crusader kit).

So, again, are we sure that this is 6 new designs and not 2 old + 4 new.

BYE

what # german WD did this come out of so that we can know when #159 it said in german for more details

They are probably at 157 right now if the info on the German on-line store is correct, meaning that issue 159 will hit the stores in February. This means that as I stated before the big info dump will happen a month before the actual release. Unless someone has a finger on the inside of course and spills the guts earlier.

BrookM wrote:Unless someone has a finger on the inside of course and spills the guts earlier.

It's like something from a Larry McMurtry novel!

Sweet.

I wonder if with a little clever magnet work, you could interchange between the varients offered?

With clever magnet work, you can do damn well anything.

I'm throwing my hat in with the "It won't include the Baneblade/Hellhammer" crowd, for a simple reason. The raised superstructure of the Shadowsword and variants is very different to the turreted arrangement of the Baneblade, requiring a whole new upper hull piece. Hence, on a pure cost analytical basis, I'd wager that we'll be getting essentially a Stormsword with a choice of 6 different guns. I'd also wager that if the kit does include the Transport Stormlord, then it'll look quite different to the one in Apoc Reload.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Are we sure?

I mean, from a shelf-space point of view, a kit that has everything in it makes more sense. The Baneblade takes up the shelf space of a starter-box. I don't see the Stompa being much different. So they're going to add two such boxes rather than consolidate this new one and the old one (kind've like the new Redeemer/Crusader kit).

So, again, are we sure that this is 6 new designs and not 2 old + 4 new.

BYE

Well, I'm going to have to say that no, we're not sure.

Sadly, the only thing we're probably sure of is that there won't be a Stormhammer in the box...

Don't knock that idea until you're sure mate! There is still a chance that the parts might be included. I'm going to go on a positive hunch and say that yes, the Stormlord parts will be in it. Just think about it, the kit might have a specially designed superstructure that allows it to be mounted to the front or rear, just combine this with the proper front or rear parts and it should work out just fine.

My thought is if they have all the new parts on a single big sprue, its probably just added to the baneblade and the 2 old + 4 new might not be too far fetched. If the number of required bits exceeds a sprue, they'd probably have to drop a sprue from the baneblade to keep it worthwhile.

When you look at the model its obvious that the entire top hull is replaced. You combine the size of that hull section with the cannon barrel and you have a single sprue without having much room for maybe a second variant. This leads me to think that it is two new sprues that replace a sprue of the baneblade and that with a whole nother sprue it'd be easily possible to cover 4 more variant cannons.

If this kit has an option for a Stormblade, I will build something else and use the Plasma Blastgun to make myself a life size plasma pistol!

deitpike wrote:the 6 variants do not include Hellhammer /Baneblade
all new
all awesome (so you'll need 6 of them!)

I am wondering if the original baneblade/hellhammer turret comes in the kit as the other two options, or if they are two different otions. Possibly the Nurgle Snot cannon and some Orky bits?

This would pretty much cover all the variants listed in Apoc right? Aside from the Yarrick pope mobile.

deitpike wrote:the 6 variants do not include Hellhammer /Baneblade
all new
all awesome (so you'll need 6 of them!)

Again, I point to the article not saying 6 NEW variants, just six Variants. As it's easier to produce the same sprues in the Baneblade box and just add 2-3 new sprues, instead of leaving out 1-2 Baneblade sprues for 4-5 new sprues, I think it's more likely it's the same box with 4 new variants in addition to the same 2 old ones.

it's not
if you want there to only be 4 new variants, be prepared to be disappointed when the new kit is 6 new tanks

but what do I know....

So they'll update the datasheet for a Forge World book that you can't get in stores? Again, the rules need to be readily available to really sell the kit.

It would be no different when the rules for the Baneblade were revised and not in a FW book. A simple PDF datasheet will suffice.

Capt K

deitpike wrote:but what do I know....

That's the problem, we don't know what you apparently know. We only have the article to go on, which only says 6 variants, not 6 new variants.

If everyone remembers GW was able to shrink the Baneblade down sprue wise, it now comes in a smaller box. Using the original box size it would be very easy to add a sprue or two with parts for the stationary turret assembly and the different weapons barrels that bolt on. Forgeworld does the same thing with thier variants.

As for the stormlord, it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to move that turret forward. If it comes in a few pieces it would be easy. A few interior detail plates to glue in place behind the raised turret or even just a plate with a double doors like on the top of the rhino, and you have yourself a stormlord. I would think its a good bet that this is one of the 6 variants in the kit.

Platuan4th wrote:

deitpike wrote:but what do I know....

That's the problem, we don't know what you apparently know. We only have the article to go on, which only says 6 variants, not 6 new variants.

Indeed!

So, just what DO you know? (i.e., Feel free to list the 6 new plastic variants...)

I'm pretty sure that the Vulcan Megabolter will be in it.

I have 1 for you

The "Doomhammer"

Nice pic in standardbearer. As far as i can see, this tank fields a weapon that maybe is either a mortar or a howitzer.


Important difference:
The shadowsword has the upper hull similar to the doomhammer but the raised superstructure is mounted in the middle (shadowsword)
and in the front (doomhammer). I think this confirmes a stormlord.


My guess:

Confirmed= shadowsword + doomhammer + stormlord
Very likely= stormsword + stormblade

This would leave 1 slot for another NEW tank.

Or the "6 new variants" thing in the German WD could be a typo or mistake and there 'only' 5 new variants...

Or the "6 new variants" thing in the German WD could be a typo or mistake and there 'only' 5 new variants...

Alpharius wrote:Or the "6 new variants" thing in the German WD could be a typo or mistake and there 'only' 5 new variants...

Can't be

Quote WD: 6 variants can be build with this plastic kit.

NEW isn't written there.

Complete info is stated for march 09.

It might be a normal blaneblade plus an extra sprue or 2 for different weapons

I would think they would plan one of them to be the transport thingy just cuz it was in the other apoc book.

Do any of those other variants allow for 2 sponsons? I got an extra set of sponsons that I was planning to add to a regular baneblade but maybe I could add that to one of the other tanks insead... or I guess I could do magnets and have 2 different sets depending on the tank...

The upper hull of the shadowsword may consist of 2-3 pieces.
because it is moved between those "shadowsword" pic and the "doomhammer"pic.

Front has a hatch and a heavy bolter, both identical at shadowsword and doomhammer. Also identical is the weapon mount.
The gunbarrel of the shadowsword and the doomhammer looks exchangable.

And the apoc reloaded stormlord looks like the doomhammer without the big gun but a VMB.

So i guess the upper hull will be: a basic piece,maybe from engine to front. A superstructure that can be placed at different positions.

Both SHV don't block the mount of sponsons. If the rules agree ( apoc III in april ? ) there is nothing that stops you.

Doomhammer? Pics please.

Stormsword
Stormblade
Stormlord
Shadowsword
Doomhammer
[????????????]

I'd say something with a giant Inferno Gun, like off a Warhound, but why would you mount such a gun on a tank with a fixed turret?

And doesn't the Hellhammer make the Stormsword redundant?

BYE

The difference is that the Stormsword uses a 10" template, the Hellhammer a 7"

BrookM wrote:The difference is that the Stormsword uses a 10" template, the Hellhammer a 7"

Simply saying 'Yes' would've been quicker Brook.

There's no need for one if you have the other.

BYE

Something with a really huge mortar kinda thing sticking up might be kinda cool .. like a griffon only giant

You should hold your breath for a transport BB.

BrookM wrote:Doomhammer? Pics please.

For the love of all that is holy please tell me you have pics of the others...

Anyone else think this seems like a little much for just Apocalypse?

Are we possibly seeing something for Apoc. and the new Guard book...

1hadhq wrote:

BrookM wrote:Doomhammer? Pics please.

Looks more like a Stormsword to me, but oh well!

BrookM wrote:

1hadhq wrote:

BrookM wrote:Doomhammer? Pics please.

Looks more like a Stormsword to me, but oh well!

Yeah, that looks exactly like the current FW Stormsword other than the top hull.

Only thing missing are the heavy flamers and coaxial heavy bolter.

methoderik wrote:Anyone else think this seems like a little much for just Apocalypse?

It's not too much at all. Do people even play normal games anymore?

Yeah that's a Stormsword.

BYE

I do not believe GW calls a stormsword a doomhammer


Stormsword:

Yes, I do beliee that the plastic doomhammer above would be perfect for a superheavy demonic pleague tank with giant slime cannon.


...I love my hobby

If you look carefully, the FW Stormsword has a rear superstructure while Doomhammer has a forward superstructure.

Then we've seen 2 guns:
- Volcano Cannon (VC)
- Stormsword cannon (SSC)
And the Vulcan MegaBolter (VMB) seems a certainty based on the picture already published.

Presumably, then the 6 variants are as follows:

Rear superstructure:
- Shadowsword (VC)
- Stormsword (SSC)
- ??? (VMB)

Forward superstructure (for Transport):
- Doomsword? (VC Transport)
- Doomhammer (SSC Transport)
- Stormlord (VMB Transport)

That's a full 6 variants out of the one kit.

Obviously, we lose the Stormblade PlasmaBlastGun, but oh, well. At least FW still has something to sell...

I love it how he can just make up stuff like that. It's quite a skill.

I'd love to live in DD's world, just for 5 minutes. I don't think I'd get much done... but I don't think I'd really care.

BYE

You sure mister Wang isn't family of Bagdad Bob?

The way I see it GW will crank out their own variants and crush the opinions of fans regarding the proper placement of the upper superstructure. Or as mentioned before the superstructure will be as modular as the rest of the tank and you'll be able to mount it to the front, or to the rear.

GW might be doing all three FW variants along with the Stormlord and two newly "discovered" patterns, or just upgrade the Baneblade kit itself. The latter might mean a hike in the price of the kit though, a small price to pay for such a wealth of bits.

Ok, so, here are the name of the new tanks:

Shadowsword
Banehammer
Doomhammer
Stormlord
Banesword
Stormsword

Kinda reminds me that thread where we were coming up with different Baneblade types and Abadabadoodon came up with 'Hammerblade', 'Swordhammer' and 'Bladeblade!'.

Anyway, the descriptions for these are:

Shadowsword - We all know and love this one, and we've seen it. The main part here is the superstructure that makes up the cannon's housing. As I suspected, this can be mounted forward or back,

Banehammer - The superstructure housing is mounted forward and we get a huge giant mortar. Looking forward to this one.

Doomhammer - Forward turret again, but with a smaller turret. Very similar to the Banehammer apparently.

Stormlord - Once again, forward turret and with the twin Vulcans.

Banesword - Not much detail other than a 'thicker' barrel than the Shadowsword. Unsure what this could mean. In any case, it has the superstructure housing mounted back, so it would be of comparable damage to the Shadowsword and the...

Stormsword - Which I'm assuming is just like the FW one, only crunchy.

No Stormblade, which pisses me off royally (I wanted another one, and one that was all plastic this time). The names are very stupid, but then again they weren't all that clever to begin with. Doomhammer is pretty cool in the GRIMDARK context though.

Also, apparently, three of them - I'm guessing the ones where the superstructure housing is mounted forward - transport infantry! Transport baneblades! OOOH!

And No I can't tell you who or where I heard these from. Don't ask.

BYE

I LOVE the names Doomhammer and Bladehammer... reminds me of the Dark Heresy interview in D6G when the guy must have said 'grimdark' like ten times.

I like the sound of the kit.. I think the Bane chassis lends itself much more to the gorgeous fixed-hull setups FW designed. It sounds like I can see myself ending up with like two or three of these if I pace myself... I wonder if I should start playing guard... or Apoc

No Stormblade, which pisses me off royally (I wanted another one, and one that was all plastic this time). The names are very stupid, but then again they weren't all that clever to begin with. Doomhammer is pretty cool in the GRIMDARK context though.

No giant Plasma cannon?

Of what do we base that there will be no Stormblade in the kit? Is this being based of an extensive study of the Shadowsword picture?

H.B.M.C. says he has his sources and he's not the guy who would say stuff like that just to get attention.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Ok, so, here are the name of the new tanks:

Shadowsword
Banehammer
Doomhammer
Stormlord
Banesword
Stormsword

Kinda reminds me that thread where we were coming up with different Baneblade types and Abadabadoodon came up with 'Hammerblade', 'Swordhammer' and 'Bladeblade!'.

Anyway, the descriptions for these are:

Shadowsword - We all know and love this one, and we've seen it. The main part here is the superstructure that makes up the cannon's housing. As I suspected, this can be mounted forward or back,

Banehammer - The superstructure housing is mounted forward and we get a huge giant mortar. Looking forward to this one.

Doomhammer - Forward turret again, but with a smaller turret. Very similar to the Banehammer apparently.

Stormlord - Once again, forward turret and with the twin Vulcans.

Banesword - Not much detail other than a 'thicker' barrel than the Shadowsword. Unsure what this could mean. In any case, it has the superstructure housing mounted back, so it would be of comparable damage to the Shadowsword and the...

Stormsword - Which I'm assuming is just like the FW one, only crunchy.

No Stormblade, which pisses me off royally (I wanted another one, and one that was all plastic this time). The names are very stupid, but then again they weren't all that clever to begin with. Doomhammer is pretty cool in the GRIMDARK context though.

Also, apparently, three of them - I'm guessing the ones where the superstructure housing is mounted forward - transport infantry! Transport baneblades! OOOH!

And No I can't tell you who or where I heard these from. Don't ask.

BYE

SO:
Shadowsword =
Banehammer = mortar ?
Doomhammer = unsure about main weapon but
Stormlord =
Banesword = Laser?
Stormsword =

Since the shadowsword and doomhammer have a few similarities (only gun-barrel exchanged) at their main weapon and structure,
i think we get at least: 1x volcano cannon, 1x TL vulcan megabolter, 1x siege cannon, maybe the mortar, a short barreled weapon,
and a unidentified weapon (laser?).
This leaves only the stormblade out.

Maybe i should stay on my "converting superheavies" course.


PS: we do not need sources. Statlines for weapons would be enough.

1hadhq wrote:

BrookM wrote:Doomhammer? Pics please.

I have no idea what a doomhammer is. Never heard of it. I agree that looks more like a stormsword to me. Are you guys talking about the chaos Doom blaster which GW provided a data sheet for awile ago?

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1181496_Chaos_Space_Marines_Datasheet_-_Doom_Blaster_of_Khorne.pdf

This tank has 4 doom mortars not 1 mortar. Nice concept with "doomhammer" I guess but I dont think we should just be pulling stuff out of thin air.

Well, either way, I somehow resisted buying a Baneblade the first time around, but now it looks as if I'll be picking up at least one, if not more!

I was going to call my own custom tank a doomhammer. I guess I'll just have to beat them to the chase and use Doomwolfhellswordcannonbladedeaththingknifefire Tank before they think of it.

What's mildly annoying is that I had just started major conversion of my Baneblade about a week ago. Now, all of that is going to be on hold until I see what the new sprues will give.

Most likely I will buy 1 or 2 of the Shadowsword kits to drive my conversions forward.

o just wait til the stompa ive seen pica and it is AWESOME!!!!!!!!

you know whats even mor AWESOME???? WRITING REAL SENTENCES!!!!

Anung Un Rama wrote:you know whats even mor AWESOME???? WRITING REAL SENTENCES!!!!

This is true. I honestly can't even understand the actual meaning of the post you're talking about.

He says he's seen a pic of the Stompa and it's awesome and that we can't wait to see it.

I like it how the N&R forum is becoming the home of "I know something you don't know and I'm not going to tell you!".

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:I like it how the N&R forum is becoming the home of "I know something you don't know and I'm not going to tell you!".

BYE

To tell the truth, I'm not big on it. It's Yakface's fault though, he started it. Thanks a lot Yakface, oafv.

I've also noticed an increasing amount of drivel posts during my brief time here so far. Very unfortunate, clearly we need a Grammar nazi around here to terrorize our less punctuation-oriented users. I'd call on Grotsnik but unfortunately he's already our moral compass...

Judging from the text in your signature I'd say you'll make an excellent candidate.

typhus wrote:o just wait til the stompa ive seen pica and it is AWESOME!!!!!!!!

Pics or it didn't happen seems apropos for this matter.

captain.gordino wrote:I've also noticed an increasing amount of drivel posts during my brief time here so far.

Eye dont no what your talking abowt,

EYB

I've also noticed an increasing amount of drivel posts during my brief time here so far. Very unfortunate, clearly we need a Grammar nazi around here to terrorize our less punctuation-oriented users. I'd call on Grotsnik but unfortunately he's already our moral compass...

I don't want to be the "Grammar nazi" (hate that word btw.), it's just that one of the things I enjoy most on Dakka, is that a lot of people actually take their time to write readable posts.

What kind of foul, twisted creature would decide not to include a plasma blastgun in this kit?

Jervis?

It seems easy enough to just ignore a poorly written post. I don't see the need for anyone to become the "grammar nazi", "grammar police", "third grade english teacher", "self righteous know it all", "I'm more clever than you are, guy". Its a public forum, not a grammar class. You don't get a gold star for giving the correct answer. Once somone reads their poorly written post in comparison with other posts, they will get the point.

Heavygear wrote:Once somone reads their poorly written post in comparison with other posts, they will get the point.

I admire your faith in the common sense of humanity, misplaced though it is.

Heavygear wrote:It seems easy enough to just ignore a poorly written post. I don't see the need for anyone to become the "grammar nazi", "grammar police", "third grade english teacher", "self righteous know it all", "I'm more clever than you are, guy". Its a public forum, not a grammar class. You don't get a gold star for giving the correct answer. Once somone reads their poorly written post in comparison with other posts, they will get the point.

HA!

New to the internet then?

Alpharius wrote:

Heavygear wrote:It seems easy enough to just ignore a poorly written post. I don't see the need for anyone to become the "grammar nazi", "grammar police", "third grade english teacher", "self righteous know it all", "I'm more clever than you are, guy". Its a public forum, not a grammar class. You don't get a gold star for giving the correct answer. Once somone reads their poorly written post in comparison with other posts, they will get the point.

HA!

New to the internet then?

No. I'm just not that critical, or knit picky about other peoples posts. Some people just go around looking for an excuse to be annoyed.

Heavygear wrote:

Alpharius wrote:

Heavygear wrote:It seems easy enough to just ignore a poorly written post. I don't see the need for anyone to become the "grammar nazi", "grammar police", "third grade english teacher", "self righteous know it all", "I'm more clever than you are, guy". Its a public forum, not a grammar class. You don't get a gold star for giving the correct answer. Once somone reads their poorly written post in comparison with other posts, they will get the point.

HA!

New to the internet then?

No. I'm just not that critical, or knit picky about other peoples posts. Some people just go around looking for an excuse to be annoyed.

Sure, I get that, it was just this:

"Once somone reads their poorly written post in comparison with other posts, they will get the point."

that seemed a little... odd...

lord_blackfang wrote:What kind of foul, twisted creature would decide not to include a plasma blastgun in this kit?

The same kind that made the Deffrolla a direct only sprue. Wonder if they'll do the same for the Blastgun...

Heavygear wrote:Some people just go around looking for an excuse to be annoyed.

That ticked me off.

Platuan4th wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:What kind of foul, twisted creature would decide not to include a plasma blastgun in this kit?

The same kind that made the Deffrolla a direct only sprue. Wonder if they'll do the same for the Blastgun...

Well, if they do, I for one will be happy.

And I won't whine or whinge either...

lord_blackfang wrote:What kind of foul, twisted creature would decide not to include a plasma blastgun in this kit?

A) someone intelligent enough to envision another plastic kit to sell in numbers ?

B) the stormblade stays in FW range because they lose alot of SHT and maybe also the valkyrie?


After a closer inspection of those 2 pics and my plastic baneblade (not built yet), i think that we get 1 or 2 additional sprues
and the sprue for the turret / main gun + the sprue for the upper hull/commander/demolisher is replaced by shadowsword
typical upper hull and guns.This could keep the plastic kit at "baneblade-level" in $/€ . Just my guess

A tiny little bit of extra info for y'all:

The datasheets for these new vehicles will be in WD as well as in PDF's on the web. So far there is no new confirmed Apoc book for the new release.

The Stormlord shoot twice if it stays still apparently.

And the others have four new(ish) weapons:

Tremor cannon (Mortar?)
Magma cannon
Siege cannon (Stormsword I suspect)
Quake Cannon (On a tank? HOLY CRAP!

Cannot confirm any of this 100%, so the usual grains of salt apply, but my source has been good so far.

BYE

good find HBMC

tremor = if it is a warlord weapon => barrage 24-360"

magma = if its a warlord weapon => super-melta 3d6+10 direct hit,otherwise 2d6+10

siege cannon = stormsword

quake = weapon from epic?

Aye the Stormlord can fire twice instead of moving, as the commander directs all power to the main weapon, allowing you to shoot at two different targets with the Hurricane Mega Bolter.

The Tremor cannon could be a souped up Earthshaker cannon for all we know.

1hadhq wrote:tremor = if it is a warlord weapon => barrage 24-360"

You're probably right. This is probably the giant Mortar Baneblade. Can't wait for that one!!!

1hadhq wrote:magma = if its a warlord weapon => super-melta 3d6+10 direct hit,otherwise 2d6+10

Good call. Giant Melta cannon Baneblade. Kinda redundant though with the presence of the Shadowsword, but this might be one of the transport Baneblades, which is something we know the Shadowsword cannot do, in which case it makes sense.

1hadhq wrote:siege cannon = stormsword

Yep, we know what that one does. Agian, I debate its necessity given the presence of the Hellhammer (or, to be more accurate, I debate the need for the Hellhammer if we have the Stormsword... then again the Hellhammer does have the Demolisher cannon as well).

1hadhq wrote:quake = weapon from epic?

Quake cannon we have rules for, in the original Apoc book in the Warlord section (I could be wrong, someone with the book on hand please correct me). From what I know the Quake Cannon is like an Earthshaker + Battlecannon to the power of 10. It's huge massive enormous weapon. Like one of the biggest ballistic weapons a titan can carry (short of anything the Imperator might be able to carry).

And if it really is a Quake Cannon, as I said, holy crap!!!!!!

BYE

Aye, the Quake Cannon is seen on the Warlord and on the drawing of it. It is a MASSIVE weapon, makes you wonder how they'll properly fit it onto such a small chassis.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

1hadhq wrote:quake = weapon from epic?

Quake cannon we have rules for, in the original Apoc book in the Warlord section (I could be wrong, someone with the book on hand please correct me). From what I know the Quake Cannon is like an Earthshaker + Battlecannon to the power of 10. It's huge massive enormous weapon. Like one of the biggest ballistic weapons a titan can carry (short of anything the Imperator might be able to carry).

And if it really is a Quake Cannon, as I said, holy crap!!!!!!

BYE

The warlord has not the wole epic set of weapons in apoc.
So its either new weapon and rules or translated from epic:armageddon.

Both would be fine because they do not include any weapon i'm working on.
Nothing to stop me now Weapon = unused by GW + name = unused by GW => free for baneblade conversions and a chance to grab a new plastic shadowsword + stormlord + some other variants if liked.

Really? Could've sworn the Quake Cannon was there...

And I really want the 'Doomhammer' to be the mortar one. I know it won't be - it'll be the HammerBladeShadowStorm or something other nonsense - but Doomhammer would be cool as masssive siege mortar.

BYE

The Quake cannon is in the book, a G24-360" str 9 AP 3 ordnance 2 10" blast weapon. The barrel alone is nearly as tall as two Guardsmen.

Makes it easy to clean the barrels lol

Mmm... Quake Cannon.

*Fond memories of Warlord Titans from Final Liberation drift back to HBMC*


I've had the Quake Cannon clarified via my inside source deep throat agent type person:

260” range
2 Strength 9 AP3 shots
10” blast

Hell yeah!!

BYE

CaptKaruthors wrote:

So they'll update the datasheet for a Forge World book that you can't get in stores? Again, the rules need to be readily available to really sell the kit.

it is like the terminus ultra or what ever the heck it is called