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Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 00:45:26


Post by: Wehrkind


So, it's time to finally use some of the pictures I have been uploading to the gallery and chitter chat about my new army project for the winter, the Lost and the Orky.
The plan is to make a Lost and the Damned force consisting of industrial hive muties, and traitor guard with leadership provided by a detachment of Word Bearers. Mostly the reasoning behind choosing the project was I wanted a non-power armor army, but I REALLY wanted to biggerize some chaos marines. In general, I wanted to get my hands dirty making piles of custom vehicles and mutants. Also, I wanted to have a more assault and armored vehicle oriented army than either my Sisters or Marines.

For rules, I went with the Ork Codex, figuring I could get swarms of gribblies, tough, ramshackle tanks, and some big hardassed fellows for the CSM boys to stand in as. The fact I could take a pretty tough psyker was a nice touch too.

So here is the list I am building towards:

2000 pts

HQ:
Warboss, Mega Armor, Attack Squig (biggerized Terminator Lord)
ZogWort (Rogue Alpha Psyker)

Elite:
Snikrot, 9 Kommandos, 2 burnas (sneaky... cultist... guys...)

Troops:
5 Meganobz, kombi-scorcha (Biggerized terminators)
Battlewagon, extra armor, big shoota, red paint, deathrolla (Big tank/armored truck thing)

Shoota mob, 19 shootas, 2 rokkits, Powerklaw Nob (Traitor guard/mutants)

Trukk Mob, 11 sluggas, 1 rokkit, 1 PK Nob w/ Bosspole and heavy armor (Skinny Muties, Marine and priest)
Trukk, red, stickbombs.

Trukk Mob, 11 sluggas, 1 rokkit, 1 PK Nob w/ Bosspole and heavy armor (Skinny Muties, Marine and priest)
Trukk, red, stickbombs.

Trukk Mob, 11 sluggas, 1 rokkit, 1 PK Nob w/ Bosspole (Skinny Muties, Big Mutie and priest)
Trukk, red, stickbombs.

Fast:
Zagstruck, 10 stormboyz (Summoned Flying Daemony things)

Heavy:
2 Killcannon Battlewagons with hardcase.

So that's the general plan. The trukk mobs are planned out (and nearly done) as is one of the battle wagons. I am currently having trouble with the kommandos and the daemons, mostly just a question of what models and bits to use. The shoota mob is also giving me creative block. The terminators will probably be next, even though modifying them with all their detail will be tricky...
Next post, pictures!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 01:07:35


Post by: Wehrkind


So, here's the work done thus far:

Biggerized Marines
A big reason for even starting this project is that I wanted to biggerize some chaos marines, but I did not want to make a whole army out of them. Not only would that be a mess of work, but chaos is not really my thing, and I don't need a 3rd power armor army.

The Plan: Cut into the shins, thighs, fore and upper arms of the marines. Insert plasticard into the cuts, as well as between the front and back half of the torso, between the torso and legs, under the feet and at the neck. Green stuff over. ? . Profit.

Kind of rough going, but after terminally screwing up a pair of legs, I got the hang of it.

Here's the size difference:

Not huge, but a good head taller than a normal marine. Just tall (and a little more lanky) enough that they stand out.

The other CSM nob, I went a little overboard with...

another shot:


I play a lot of tau... and this was just too much fun to turn down

Now, I have put some paint on them so far, mostly as a test of the color scheme since I never painted Word Bearers before and am only sort of certain of what they look like...


I am fairly happy with the general look. He will of course have ridiculous levels of attention lavished upon him later, but for now, he watches over the growing horde of grey plastic mutants...

Test mutie
The little skinny muties in the trukk mobs are really going to be the defining part of the army, or at least I think. There will be a lot, and they will look very different from any official 40k models, so I wanted to get a good system down for them. Because, oh my god... there are a LOT of them...
The general pattern I am using for the little sluggas is a WHFB ghoul body, Pig Iron Kolony head, and then some randome pistols and melee weapons.

Here's the basic look:


Of course there are still details to be pulled out, but that is the 75%, couple of hours spent version. The skin is very quick en masse, and the details are few enough that I am confident the other 29 of the buggers I am working on will get done quickly.

Those left to be finished... I am still coming to grips with just how massive these 2000 points are going to be... These 3 units of boyz are going to have more models than nearly my entire Marine force.

Priests and Big Muties
One small deviation from the normal ork layout is I am putting the Boss Pole on one of the counts as sluggas, and modeling him as a priest. It just looks cooler to have a somewhat less fallen guy hoising an icon than having the CSM doing anything other than looking cool with scary power fists. Also, I didn't want to have all the Nobs be CSM, as I wanted to play around with making some big muties.



So, yea, those kind of speak for themselves. The ogre mutie has some preliminary painting on him.


So those are the boyz so far, at least the ones I am happy with. The gallery has some of the boyz I am still working on, or not happy with, as well as some of the vehicles. I will post about them tomorrow maybe.



Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 07:20:30


Post by: Malika2


I like the small mutants, and those priest like things (especially the one with the Tyranid head), however the big mutants just look like Ogres to me. How about trying to make some mutants using Orks, Chaos and various human bits together? Or maybe even try to get the mutants by Troll Forged, the big ones are cool!



Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 07:43:39


Post by: Chrysaor686


That...is awesome.

The Word Bearers scheme is spot-on.

Those mutants with the gasmasks are some of the coolest-looking models I've ever seen. Though I do have to say, the "mutated Ogre", though the shoulderpad is a cool addition, just looks like an Ogre with a boltpistol. I also have to add that the Tau hanging from the CSM's claw looks very unnatural. Maybe model the legs a bit? Right now he just looks like he's standing on air.



Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 07:46:40


Post by: Malika2


What about CSM squads and counting them as Ard Boys or Skarboys?

Lootas in the form of mutants with heavy weapons on them (Obliterators?). Smaller mutants could count as Grots!

You could even include some form of strange mutant cavalry and count them as bikers.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 08:34:54


Post by: Metsuri


The skin on the ogre looks really good, just the right amount of unhealthiness visible.

The small mutie is lookig good, the conversions are not apparent in the painted fig, which is always good in my books.

Excellent stuff, hope to see more soon.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 09:06:39


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Very inspired army!
If you want to get some special models, consider the ash wase nomads from Necromunda. Lots of low tech guys in hoods, and a sh!tload of pistol and cc weapons.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 09:53:23


Post by: TheMightyWarhamster


nice! i've got some of the ghoul/gasmask combo models, too, but your skin looks better tahn mine. how did you do it?


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 10:05:54


Post by: Arctik_Firangi


That marine is definitely 'biggerized', and comes out well in the paint too. Nice work.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 13:34:28


Post by: Wehrkind


Malika: Yea, I had heard the same from some other people about the Ogre mutie. I guess for me, not really playing fantasy and not being used to just how big those ogres are, it appeals to me.
As to CSM in a full unit, other than the Meganob terminators, I don't really have a plan for a full squad of CSM. I had knocked around the idea of doing a nob squad with heavy armor for them, and maybe I still will, but for the moment they are merely inciters and leaders of packs of muties. I had thought of lootas too, but decided that they didn't fit the army as well as I would like, and they were very points heavy for being the only stand and shoot unit. They are another unit I might add later for variety.
The kommandos and shootas are going to feature more ork based mutants mixed in with catachan/cadian based muties. The ogre big mutant will likely be the nob for the shootas. I will link the pic of the shoota with rokkit that is made from an ork in a bit.

Chrysaor: Thanks for the compliment
You point about the tau's legs is a good one. I never really noticed till now, but the fact that his feet are both flat against the same plane really gives the impression he is standing on something.

Metsuri and Arctik: Thanks

Commisar: Thanks for the tip! I always forget about Necromunda parts... I will have to look those up. I just ordered some more Darkage and AE WW2 guys to chop up as well.

Warhamster: The skin is done with a base coat of Vallejo Grey White, though after the first I just mixed my white brush on primer with a drop of black to match it, then a 3 step wash process. First, I put on some thinned Leviathan Purple, then a really thinned Thrakka Green, then a thinned Ogryn Flesh. The exact ratio I couldn't tell you (and the first guy is going to look a tad different from all the rest) but "pretty darn thinned" is a good rule of thumb.
You have to be careful with application though, since subsequent layers of wash will dissolve previous layers if they are not 100% dry. Sometimes that is handy, but sometimes it will piss you off royally


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 14:07:34


Post by: RiTides


Thanks for sharing how you did the skin... it does look good (in a sick kind of way)

Really impressive that after adding in all of those pieces to "biggerize" the marine, none of it is noticeable once it's painted! Nicely done!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 17:11:39


Post by: Stretch


Love the "bigger" marine, cant wait to see more pics


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 17:25:43


Post by: Trevy the Great


Wow, what a great idea. I've never thought about using Orks as CSM, even though I have been trying to figure a way to represent LotD in my CSM army.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/23 18:16:56


Post by: Paul Atreides


That is great. Stop giving me Ideas! You with your fantastic armies distracting me with new plans...


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/26 14:03:51


Post by: Wehrkind


Ok, sorry about that, I sort of forgot where my camera and PC were apparently, as I neglected to post a single thing over the weekend. I finished up the 29 other trukker gribblies in an 8 hour, “Oh my god my back is killing me!” painting marathon which contributed to the lack of an update. I will get more photos and post tonight.

At any rate, here are some off the other things in progress.

Battle Wagon #1: Killkannon and hard top:




Sorry if the second image makes your eyes bleed… There are still side skirts to be added, and an armored shield around the gun mount, but this gives you the general idea of scale. It’s a hair longer than a Landraider, and not quite as wide, so I figure the scale is just about right. I don’t really know how 12 guys could fit inside, but it won’t be doing much transporting anyway.

Truck #1:

Pretty basic, and just about the size of a rhino. It is noticeably smaller than the Ork Trukk in the vertical dimension, but only due to the roll bars on the orky model. Otherwise it is a good size. If I could get my hands on another kit or 3 like this, I would do so, but alas, it was another 10$ bargain bin kit find. I am going to use modified ork trucks for the other models, which at least have the benefit of not having 45 part suspension assemblies.

Shoota Boy Rokkit:


This fellow might become the basis for a lot of my other muties, as I am finding the legs make the ork, as it were. I think a mix of muties with the regular ork legs, and then some with legs from other kits will help change their stature and form enough that, with different heads, they won’t scream “greenskin in white face!” Hopefully you agree


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/26 21:50:09


Post by: Orkeosaurus


I play orks, and didn't notice it was an ork's arms and torso at first.

Looks good.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/27 03:04:28


Post by: Wehrkind


Ok, sort of a real update. I still have some touch up to do on the gribblies, but they are about 98% done now!




Lots... Still can't get over how many lots!

Also, a WIP shot of the new tau killer:




Well, that's it for now. I didn't really do anything tonight, just watched Gremlins with the wife and unpacked a warstore order. Lots of fun off brand minis to chop up, and the awesome spawn kit YAY


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/27 03:11:27


Post by: Wehrkind


Thanks Orkeosaurus ! Glad to hear it I havent' been playing a long time, so things that seem new and cool to me sometimes seem obviously silly to some (like the ogre no one else likes ). It's good to hear that some of the work looks new to the vets!

I still feel guilty about not finishing the GS work on him and the guy with the head. So much so the project is making me lose sleep.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/28 20:52:53


Post by: Wehrkind


Ok, I finished up the little guys the other day, but decided to screw around with the camera since we are under a mess of snow right now:








I think that last one is my favorite.

Here's a pic of the set up:




The "sky" in back is from my spraying booth. Just a foam board poster from work with primer overspray. Really adds to the look though I think


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/28 21:22:40


Post by: Shep


Umm.. I thought that backdrop was something you had worked up just for photography... and i thought you had an entire city table underneath your models.

You had me tricked and it looked awesome!!

Thank you for including the picture revealing the method you used. I will be borrowing heavily

As far as your project goes... man is that a huge scope of a project. All of these different models different sizes etc. Such a cool thing for you to be working on. I bet its never boring.

Love the theme, love the execution, and I hope you can stay focused and that the powers of chaos don't addle your mind to the point of insanity


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/28 21:25:08


Post by: Shep


double post!!!

i thought I'd never fall for that!

one step closer to 500 though



Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/29 11:20:56


Post by: The Thousandth Son


Very cool, now I'm inspired to make a traitor guard army.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/29 11:30:09


Post by: Anung Un Rama


That's some really really cool ideas you had there. But I'm pretty sure I have seen gasmasks on Ghouls before somewhere on Dakka. I think it was called the Harrowed Demon army project. Anyway, looks great, so who cares if you're not the only one who did it

I like your Rokkit mutant and look forward to see it painted.
The Truck is pretty cool too, I was considering using that model for my Ork army, but it's way to small to transport 12 real Orks
The cannon on your tank is awesome, where did you get it?


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/29 14:26:50


Post by: Wehrkind


Shep: Thanks! I am glad you enjoyed it  It was a really fun little photo set up to do, so much so that I am thinking I might have to play around with a few more. As I get more units finished up I will have to do some more “in universe” shots like that.

I gotta say, this project has actually be costing me a lot of sleep. It turns out not knowing what to do with certain unit’s constructing leads to wracking guilt that I didn’t get more done during bed, and thinking about hideous mutants before sleeping leads to nightmares of the worst sort… On the plus side, I am hoping to harness my latent psychic powers shortly, which should help my get things built faster.

Thousandth Son: DO IT! Actually, wait till the new guard stuff comes out so you have some different plastics to work with, then DO IT! I am really hoping they recut the Catachan sprues a bit so that they are more nicely shaped. Even for mutants they are a little odd looking.

Anung Un Rama: You are probably right. I copped the idea for using ghouls from Sickbunny, a guy on another forum. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if I got the gas mask idea off someone here as well and just don’t remember anymore. I had been planning on some sort of traitor LatD force for a long time, so my head is full of half realized ideas, crashing around in a swirl of tattered cloth, bloodied steel and gnashing teeth. I am glad you like them though 
I know what you mean about the truck being small; the ork trukk kit is huge! Bigger than a rhino huge. I am thinking I might pull off the roll bars to make it look a tad smaller (and a little less orky) for use in my army. I am going to have to make the third truck more medium sized so it bridges the gap between the two I think.
The cannon on that battle wagon is a 15mm WW2 field gun. I just left off the wheels and the limbers. A cool model all around, made by Italiari I think (or something like that.)


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/29 15:13:55


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


fantastic idea and great models, I wish I`d thought of it!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/30 02:31:03


Post by: Wehrkind


Powered through some painting tonight, for better or for worse.

The mutie nob and 3 priests:



In retrospect, I need to highlight that one chaos banner a tad more... Otherwise, I am rather happy with how they all turned out so far. I had a hell of a time freehanding that book pattern, but after 45 minutes of painting something, painting it white again and starting over, I am pretty happy. Apparently the vile sigils of chaos do not come easily to my faithful hands. Or I just suck at freehand.

Adding them to the previous set up:


Now back to the marines. I tried something that I totally stole from another guy on the forum here. Saddly, I can't find his thread again to give him credit... so if you recognize it, let me know so I can thank him. Especially because I don't think I pulled it off as well...



So, woo, the weekend awaits!



Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/30 10:00:01


Post by: !?


Hey nice paints scheme and GS sculpting. Only problem i have is the Tau being flung in the air, he looks too rigid and straight.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/30 14:50:23


Post by: Wehrkind


!?: I see what you mean in the pictures, though oddly in person I don't see it as such. I wonder if it is an issue of the angle of the camera revealing the tau's essentially "standing up" posture, which is not noticable from a normal angle... I might have to chop off one of his legs and move it around.


In other news, I glancing through the gallery I happened to find who did the gasmask ghouls before me: Dakka's very own Tinfoil! He used them as mutated horrors for his daemon guard army, and they look sharp! Fortunately his are more mutated and daemony than mine, so they don't compete too hard, but man, I am glad that thread of his is no longer on the front page Go check them out, it's a great gallery!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/01/30 15:18:20


Post by: Boss Salvage


1) Great to see this log over on Dakka for our (my) viewing convenience.

2) Totally sweet updates I haven't seen! The little gribbly ghoul mutants are pretty excellent in that big mob shot, glad to see them all painted up. Love that you dump everything back into the city for happy shots of accomplishment

3) Holy hell that red-on-yellow banner stings - color combo alone, not the painting

Oh, also:

4) Like where the battlewagon is headed, look forward to plates and stuff.

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/02/06 02:40:44


Post by: Wehrkind


Sorry I haven't posted anything in nearly exactly a week; there is a painting contest at the FLGS, and the entries were due tomorrow (Friday), which I was unaware of until I picked up the models to paint Saturday morning. So I have been working feverishly on them.

However, I do have the start of old Zogwart done:



A little basing and he will be good to go!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/02/15 18:56:49


Post by: Boss Salvage


Serious possibilities with that Zoggy counts as, impressive model. I'm also shocked at how in-scale that little skull is - flagellant kit? I think the new marauder cav or skeleton kits have nice skulls like that too, not sure if you've raided those yet.

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/02/15 23:10:57


Post by: FearPeteySodes


Im really digging this project! It's a sweet idea and your executing it amazingly, keep it up


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/02/16 02:54:27


Post by: Wehrkind


Salvage: glad you like him! He was part of the Rackham Clearance-gasm from the Warstore a year or so back. I never really knew what to do with him until this project. Tizzy fellow with big cape and raven wings? Oh yes!
The skull is from the flagellants, great eye! He used to be holding a little feather thing, which I was tempted to replace with a conjured warp snake or flames or something, but I am thinking a fresh skull will help make it a little more 40k and take away from the swirly French look. Plus it fit so nice, I said he could keep it.

FPS: Thanks Glad to hear a little encouragement. I keep pushing myself, partly to make the guilt ridden nightmares stop, but also because I am really worried the project will collapse under its own weight. It really helps to hear some encouragement


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/02/16 03:32:34


Post by: Wehrkind


Speaking of working on, I actually did do a fair amount the past week. Just haven't been posting as much.

I burned out a bit on building after biggerizing the termies, so it was time to play with paint!

First up, TRUKKS! (wip)



Nothing amazing, but I am glad to see that the paint and rust schemes tie the two rather different styles together. I was a little worried about that. I still need to clean up some details and highlight, as well as picking out the rust. I used the jelly method of spraying on a rusty brown, then slopping on jelly, spraying with a different color (a light gray for me) and then washing off the jelly, leaving uneven splotches. Worked out pretty well, but the red being so dark sort of hurts the effect. So some work to be done there.

I also got a termie and Zoggy started:


and here are some more terminators, plus the playing around start of Snikrot.




Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/02/16 03:55:04


Post by: Sarigar


Wow. Simply wow. This is a very creative and cool looking army. I was absolutely blown away by your cityfight photos and then see your 'photo booth'. Awesome.

Can't wait to see more.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/02/23 23:15:24


Post by: Wehrkind


Well, true to form it has been about a week since I updated. I didn't do a lot all week, then got a giant pile (relatively) done Saturday and Sunday morning. Enjoy!



Here's the terminator group (mega nobz) with bases pretty much done, and needing some highlighting, but otherwise complete. In the front is the Terminator Lord (warboss) with his mighty cursed crozius and attack daemon. He still has a ways to go, including his cape which I left off to free hand, and highlights etc. Yes, those are pins making up his crozius; they are for stabbing people who claim that isn't a Str10 weapon!

Here's a scale shot with the biggerized marine:


Also, thanks to a pile of tracks from Necros (applaud now!) I finished up building the first shooty battlewagon! Some scale shots:



If you look closely, you will see an eye right where the gunner's coax machine gun would be, and a little tentacle creeping out of a hatch. The fluff aspect has been steadily growing in my brain, and I have decided that the Word Bearers have been running a demi-machine cult, where instead of focusing on summoning daemons, they bind daemons into machines, with results ranging from possessed tanks to mini defilers. If I get really ambitious, I might even make a claw-stompa, defiler style

So, I hope you enjoy! Next up for me is polishing off the termies, and working on their battlewagon/shrine.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/02/23 23:35:01


Post by: Rutteger1


the "bigger" CSM look SOOOOO COOOOL
i wish someone had a whole army of them...


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/02/26 06:16:53


Post by: Boss Salvage


Yowza, you've already for the lordboss that far along? Nice work man, looking rock solid with his uber-termi posse.

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/02/26 10:10:01


Post by: PanzerSmurf


Looks very nice, all the aspects are great! My only gripe is that the yellow banner is... well, a bit too yellow . Keep up the good work!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/02/26 10:10:10


Post by: PanzerSmurf


edit: crap, double post...


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/02/27 15:54:16


Post by: Wehrkind


Salvage: Well, you left so early Sunday, so I had a bunch of time before having to go take care of the nephew Plus, it took longer to get the crozius together than to basecoat and wash the man himself.

PanzerSmurf: thanks! The banner is odd... it doesn't look so hideous in person, but for some reason the internet makes it radiate chaos evil that the eye finds remarkably abhorrent. Every time I see that picture I want to repaint it.

In other news, I haven't gotten much done for a bit. I hope to get some work done over the weekend though. I have started drawing up schemes for the Lord's Pimp Sled/Battlewagon/Aircraft Carrier. I might get it started, but it will be a big project



Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/04 16:14:30


Post by: Wehrkind


Ok, so saying "I haven't posted anything for a bit" is something of an understatement. While I have been getting bits done here and there, I have not really been working much on the boyz this month.
However, with the new IG codex coming up soon, I know I am going to get sidetracked hard core, so it is time to get this army squared away! Today and tomorrow will be dedicated to getting the shoota boyz and kommandos done, and the battlewagon worked on. Until then, here's what I had gotten done in March, but never posted:

The shooty battlewagon is complete!





I know the pictures are not exactly stellar, but I can't find my photo studio, and I don't want to waste an hour trying to find out where my wife has filed it. When I get a chance, probably when I finish the shootas and kommandos, I will get them all together for a nicer pic.

For comparison, and pics of the other thing I was working on, here's the battlewagon next to a baneblade.



And one of the BB by itself:


Now, I have a big pile of traitor guard all put together, scrubbed (bloody FW resin comes packed in vasiline apparently) and drying, awaiting some painting love. I have Snikrot to finish putting together, along with one burna kommando, on the troops side, then the Mega Nobz Battlewagon of Tentacly Doom, as well as another trukk, and another transport or shooty battlewagon... I really hate typing it out like that... makes it seem infinite :(


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/04 17:03:29


Post by: jackinthetank


Very nice models dude! Very unique and cool!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/05 00:11:13


Post by: George da Ork


Mmmm. Two great tastes that taste great together- Orks and Chaos.

Vurry imaginative use of the ghouls, did you sculpt the Gasmasks?


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/05 03:11:10


Post by: Wehrkind


Thank you sirs, I appreciate it

The gas masks are Kolony Rebel heads from Pig Iron. They have a whole line of really nice head swaps that fit 40k just right. You can't quite see in the pic, but the baneblade commander has a gasmask/peaked cap head from the line. I am going to be doing my entire IG army with them, to tie them into the LatD.

I know I promised pictures, but I fell asleep and didn't get more taken. Pictures of tentacle tanks and traitors in the AM!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/05 19:37:11


Post by: Bottle


I love your use of the Crypt Ghouls! They look so characterful and gothic. Brilliant work!

I was hoping to pick some up to convert for 40K also, so I was wondering, what hands did you use so they could carry guns? On close inspection they look like they have all kinds of varied hand and weapon swaps (I spy Goff Ork bolt pistols I think, and Necromunda Goliath Laspistols? among others) But at first glance they didn't even look converted at all, so seamless was the change, and you had me zooming in on the GW sight to check the Ghoul hands again xD


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/06 01:04:46


Post by: Wehrkind


Ok... just a small update today, since ChameleonEyes called me up for a game.

First a really crappy pic of the test paint scheme for the kommando:


I don't know why, but my camera is acting a little wonky of late, taking poor quality pics. I am wondering if I didn't change a setting or something without realizing it. Very grainy and questionable color.

Anyway, I keep talking about the terminator's carrier, and here is a teaser of the wip build:


It is going to have a little podium/pulpit on the front for the lord to preach the gospel of the dark gods from, and an altar of some sort in the back, as well as space to seat 5 other terminators comfortably

Bottle: Glad you like 'em! I can't take credit for the idea though; I totally ripped it off from someone else

The hands I used are a bit of a mix. Some are hands from the kit (it comes with about 2x the arms you need) with the bones they were holding hacked off. A good many others are laspistol/chainsword hands from Cadian Sgts and some Catachans. They are extra handy (*rimshot*) because they have the sleeve cuff or wrist band that is good for covering the join.
I think there might be a hand from the Empire Flagellants kit as well in there somewhere, but I don't think I used more than one or two.
One or more (the rokkit boy definitey) I also just melted the fingers a little and forced them around a gun. Not pretty, but also relatively effective when not looked at too closely.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/07 03:55:06


Post by: Boss Salvage


You have been a busy lad, Wehr old chum! Happy to see so many (evil) things painted, particularly ...

Killcannonwagon: Solid stuff! Part of me wishes it were red like the trukk and mini-trukk, but another part doesn't care cause it looks quite nice and also disturbingly realistic. I like the grimdark! touches, like the tauheadskullspike! on the back and the creepyglowingeyeofchaos! on the front. Also, that cute lil' tentacle groping the gun wall.

Baneblade: Not too chaosy, I suggest sacrificing some kittens over it, or at least adding skulls to taste. Oh, it's (quasi-)loyalist? *grumble* I guess it looks nice then, if you swing that way *grumble*

Kommando: Definite possibility, but a bit too early to tell too much. Hoping the red hood pops some, even if these guys are probably supposed to be all subdued and sneaky. Good model for them though.

Deathsquidtermicarrior: Ah! Well it certainly needs something on the back / front to break it up, but otherwise that's certainly a cool thing already. The beak on the squid I'm not such a fan of, would probably prefer a central eye or more of a spiked maw (like on the new spawn, but bigger). This mostly looks like a sidewise duck bill ... S10 quack attak!

I smell more stuff in the pipeline, will be lurking.

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/09 22:03:43


Post by: Wehrkind


Well, I did a decent amount of painting this week despite a whole lot of lost sleep and stress from work. Really, it was merely about 5 hours worth, but I took lots of pictures!
I painted ~12 models, some 8 kommandos and the 5 Shootas shown in the photos. I kind of wanted to plot out a little tutorial on using washes and pre-highlighting to speed paint assembly line style while retaining nice quality. All the pictures were about 3 hours apart start to finish, though I took a break to go to bed in the middle, and painted over twice as many guys as a pictured.

First up, black over the grey/white primer, with thinned black over bits that are not armor (for constrast... the FW models have a LOT of little detail. I wouldn't bother with a straight IG)


Second, I put on a white/grey for the cloth part of the uniform, and added brown to one fellow:


And here are all the guys with brown.


I then highlighted the brown with a lighter "cork brown" on both the boots and the cowl. I note that it is the same color combo because in a minute you will see how using two different washes gives very different results, while only painting one set of color (washing is MUCH faster than painting).



Add some Baal Red:


And slosh on some devlan mud (I did leave out the parts where I added bolt gun metal, highlighted the black, and some weathering... whoops)


Now, as it stands I am going to add some highlights to the cloth (it looks a little muddy from a distance, no pun intended) and finish the bases, but otherwise those 5 boys are done, and in about 3-4 hours or so. Very important if you are doing 20+ of the buggers!


Salvage:
Killkannon wagon: Yes, I am actually avoid red for the vehicles that don't actually have "Red Paintjob" upgrades. Not only for game terms, but also because when I have the IG done in a similar fashion (see baneblade) I want to really drive home that the LatD tanks are perverted versions and chop jobs of the IG gear.

Kommando: Yea, this second batch came out better than the test. I need to lighten him up a bit, and bring out the red more as in the later pics. One big difference is that I didn't highlight his hood nearly so much.

Death Squid: Yea... the beak is killing me. It took hours to get it to look that good. I am thinking I will break down, carve some fangs, and just make a vagina with fangs like every other spawn daemon thing :( I don't need people saying "Aflack" every time it tank shocks a unit.

Well, I am off to the wilds of Central PA for the weekend! See you next week!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/10 03:07:58


Post by: Boss Salvage


*insert fanged vagina + central PA joke here *

So: have you seen the new Mythbusters? Holy crap in a hat, great freaking stuff, and I'm damn glad I did laundry the other day, for all the pants-destruction. F=MA = truly orgasmic

Right: dig the walk through on the painting process, the washes really do some heavy lifting don't they. Hard to tell, did you do some OSL (ok, glowiness for the glowy god) on the kommandos' eyes? Cause those lenses scream for it, and I can't tell in these pics.

Another thing, are you using resin bases now? Or simply filling your custom ones in for some secret reason (magnets)? Buying premade is certainly easier than scratching your own all the time like you used to, and I'm increasingly impressed by Back to Basix and the like.

Other news: I credit you, Bottle (the latest of the Inquisimundaers), Panic & Morehammer (amazing 40k reports) for getting me excited by 40k modeling again. Building a couple dozen chaos warriors for fantasy might have played a part too ... but anyway, psyched to mess with my pig iron + scouts army some more. It's really a troublesome thing about 40k, that the background and modeling flexibility is so fun and rewarding of creativity, but the (mostly meta)game itself can get so stiffling and unattractive. I think sticking with 1000 might save it for me, though even then it depends on your opponent 'playing down' his(/her) army too ...

Anyway, happy to see the update so soon, good luck out in the wilderness.

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/10 06:12:32


Post by: Shortbus


Inspired work Wehrkind, both the modelling and the paint.

Keep us posted!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/10 13:31:23


Post by: Wehrkind


Salvage: I am glad to hear you are getting excited about 40k again I really like your sense of aesthetics, and until I can get myself excited about WHFB, I want to see it applied to 40k! If you happen to aquire some scouts, I will have some spare PI heads you can play with. And remember, I always love counts as
What's up on the Mythbusters?

The washes are awesome. I am spending a fair amount of time studying how to use them to avoid having to apply actual paint as much as possible. The color gradations as so much smoother and it makes the process so much faster that I really think there are huge efficiency gains to be made in the production of very nice models en masse. I really like how a base color, some slight highlighting, then a wash makes it look like you spent hours highlighting and blending.

As to the bases, good eyes! I picked up 15 Micro Arts Studio bases from the WarStore when I realized I was getting short on random vehicle bits to cut up. I kind of wanted to do a mini review of them, but didn't get to it. In general, their quality is nice, but they have very few flat surfaces that allow models to stand on (assuming your models are GW figures which expect a flat base to go on) and they are very high on a few, which is awkward. You will see it when you come over next; even Angela was commenting on them. So, eh, still cheaper than buying bits for my own, but perhaps not too well planned. I am fairly happy with them though.

As to the OSL, I might try playing with that a little. I am debating just how daemonically excited I want to make the little guys (as opposed to the marines or daemon engines). Complete dead eyes might be good too, I don't know. I am always torn with that.

That reminds me (and I don't know why) that there was a bleched ground hog skull in the woods by the shooting range here. I should pick that up, put it in some bleach, then mount it on a tank :-P


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/10 16:34:36


Post by: migsula


Fething O! Brilliant work mate. I'm super impressed by the pace of things. Any chance for a group shot??

How did you do the rust effects on the shooty wagon? They look great and very textured. I also really love the shade of red you've used for Termies.

Bugger how I wish we got a great Lost and the Damned book though! Projects like this deserve it.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/10 16:36:40


Post by: Malika2


@Wehrkind: How did you paint your Word Bearers? I really like those reds!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/10 17:29:24


Post by: Wehrkind


You are going to be really disappointed when I tell you...

Step 1: Mecharite Red
Step 2: Bolt Gun Metal
Step 3: Devlan Mud
Step 4: Highlight metals back up with Boltgun and Chain Mail.
Step 5: Maybe, MAYBE highlight the red with Vallejo Carmine Red. Maybe.

I will get some better pics of the terminators when I get back home, as they came out really nicely and the photos do not do them justice. This whole project has made me fall deeply in love with the GW washes, as so much has been done nearly entirely with them. I have spent much less time painting this force than I have other armies, and to comparable or better results I think.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/10 17:44:28


Post by: Malika2


To be honest, that sounds really easy! That's something even I could do! This means that there is hope for my Word Bearers after all!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/10 18:04:03


Post by: Shortbus


Wehrkind wrote:You are going to be really disappointed when I tell you...

Step 1: Mecharite Red
Step 2: Bolt Gun Metal
Step 3: Devlan Mud
Step 4: Highlight metals back up with Boltgun and Chain Mail.
Step 5: Maybe, MAYBE highlight the red with Vallejo Carmine Red. Maybe.

I will get some better pics of the terminators when I get back home, as they came out really nicely and the photos do not do them justice. This whole project has made me fall deeply in love with the GW washes, as so much has been done nearly entirely with them. I have spent much less time painting this force than I have other armies, and to comparable or better results I think.


The GW washes do make the process much much easier and you have used them with excellent results.

The rust areas on the tank are awesome too.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/10 20:22:30


Post by: Wehrkind


Hehe the rust is another easy trick. I primed the model with a rust brown spray. I then got some old jelly that should have been thrown out of the fridge a long time ago, and used a knife to flick gobs of it on. Then I sprayed the grey over it, and after that had dried, washed it in the sink with a tooth brush.

Voila, nice, rough edged rust brown patches. Except for the one glob I missed, which hardened and had a cracked exterior that was pretty cool too, but sorta gross.
After that, I just stippled the lighter colors on it to give it an uneven look.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/21 13:42:58


Post by: Wehrkind


Yay, finally another update!
Things have been going slowly, mostly due to burning out a little on kitbashing the tanks. I kind of hate doing that, largely due to not having a good process down to work within. All things with time, I suppose.
Also, the Loyalist in me keeps compulsively building Leman Russes and terminators. I might end up taking a short break from the gribblies and pounding out some assault terminators or something, just for a change of pace.

But, before there can be rest, the gods must get their due!




Yay... blurry pictures of kommandos. It's because they are sneaky. Those are the core of the unit, 9 boyz, one with a burna. Snikrot and the other burna boy are still in bits.



And the first 5 shootas. 14 or so to go. Now that I have the process down on these boys, I will probably be able to get the remainder of those that are built (plus the rokkit boy) down by the weekend. I might even get the nob done, who will be an interesting painting challenge.


Now, while the dullcote was drying on those boys, I started playing with the terrain and models that were out from last weekend.



I couldn't get the focus right where I wanted it, and I needed some light diffusing (holding a Baneblade box over the scene while the camera timer ticked didn't quite cut it), but still it was a fun thing to play with for 10-15 minutes

I hope you and enjoy, and C&C are welcome as usual!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/21 14:11:55


Post by: Boss Salvage


Wehrkind wrote:But, before there can be rest, the gods must get their due!

I am appeased, mortal. You may now return to your alcove and continue computing things for your capitalist master.

Dig the new guys, yay for FW renegades. Though it is unfortunate how awkward the arm spike arm is, all straight out like that. With the kommandos, are there going to be more flaggelant conversions like the dude on the left? It's somewhat ridiculous to say this about anarchic rabble, but he sorta sticks out currently - the brown below and light (flesh / white) above, vs the other dudes who are the opposite. Clearly you know this, but I'm just saying.

Nice actiony shot too. My money's on the dude with the rock above them - rocks don't overheat!

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/21 15:51:20


Post by: migsula


Great basing on the new lads.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/04/21 18:30:30


Post by: Wehrkind


Salvage: Yea, I agree with you on the spike arms; they all look like they are in the end stages of a straight punch, which makes for a really awkward position. I am continually disappointed with Forge World goodies.
I see what you mean about the flagellant too. I keep oscillating between how I see various aspects of the army, and the kommandos in particular have swung between gangers, to traitor veterans, to gangers, and back quite a bit. I will probably end up putting some more rabbly looking fellows into the group, such as the wip burna 2 and Snikrot, to balance out the effect some, but for now they are unfortunately with priesty.

Speaking of overheats, one issue with that big unit of plasma is the "turn of 1s". Dan came up last weekend and the girls faced off against his Khorne lads. Plasma hops out of the rhino, empties 12 rounds of hot death into 8 or so berserkers and a lord, and proceed to deal 5 deaths, 2 of which were to themselves. I nearly ended up losing more points in acolytes and veteran guardsmen from my shooting than he lost zerkers! Madness.

Migs: Glad you like the bases. I can't take credit for all of them; about 2/3 are from Micro Art Studio's ruined factory set. Just the barrels and one or two others are my creation. I was pretty much out of spare vehicle and building parts, and since I wanted to try out some premade resin bases, I figured the cost of getting more spare bits about evened it out. The bases are very pretty, but a little awkward; there are very few planes on which to glue a model's feet that are shoulder width apart. It resulted in a lot of models with similar legs being positioned on similar bases in a very similar fashion. Combined with the limited set of FW renegade parts I was working with, I had to make a conscious effort to avoid having clone models.
All in all they are nice, but as my IG tank collection is starting to refresh my stock of spare bits, I probably won't be using them on a regular basis.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/22 02:12:18


Post by: Wehrkind


Ok, so it has been a while since I posted new pictures here. Ok... so it has been 5 months. But, now that the tank clad lapdogs of the Emperor have lost their hold a little on me, and due to the nascent =][=-munda campaign in which these lads will star, it is time to get back to the Lost and the Orky!

Ok first up, I did some more work on the tentacled battlewagon/nob launcher. Mostly some eyes and beefing up the tentacles a bit, but I also ripped off the beakie thing and put on what will be the support for the big friggen chaos icon.



Obviously I have a lot of smoothing to do on the face bit, as well as the tentacle crawling up the icon support. I also want to do some exhaust stacks out the back with some growth. And cram a big shoota on there somewhere...
One other issue is the icon itself. I have a devil of a time making those for some reason...

Next, the storm bitches!


As you can probably see, the problem with using these Dark Age harpies, cool as they are, is that there are only 3 sculpts, really two when you consider that 1 is a sgt that you get one of for 5 girls. So there are two twins and two sets of quintuplets. I am trying to make do by attaching different weapons and bits, but it is sort of slow going since the poses don't lend themselves to much alteration. Still, the wings are dead cool, and who doesn't like thigh high platform boots on their psychotic cultists?

Here's the remaining 4, awaiting some cutting, as well as Mistress Zagstruck awaiting her claws, proper Slaaneshi blade, some manner of daemony claw/shooter and some big old wings.



Finally, something with some paint. I got this guy about 70% done a bit ago and never got around to posting. He is still one of my favorite models in general, just the expression


With that, hopefully I can get back on a weekly/bi-curious posting schedule. FOR THE DARK GODS!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/22 03:04:21


Post by: Battle Brother Loken


Mind posting your Word Bearers color list as i am starting some and thats exactly how i want em to look


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/22 03:14:54


Post by: dracomere


Where can i buy those buggy guys (ork boyz proxy)? And how much does it cost?


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/22 03:14:58


Post by: dracomere


Where can i buy those buggy guys (ork boyz proxy)? And how much does it cost?


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/22 03:15:04


Post by: dracomere


Where can i buy those buggy guys (ork boyz proxy)? And how much does it cost?


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/22 03:18:38


Post by: Wehrkind


'Loken: The colors are actually pretty simple: Mecharite red, bolt gun metal, then a Devlan mud wash, highlighted back up with bolt gun and silver, and a touch of Carmine Red (Vallejo).

Dracomere: Those are WHFB ghouls with Pig Iron kolony rebel heads. The ghouls are around 20$ for 10 and the Pig Iron heads are around 5$ for 10.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/22 03:26:36


Post by: Sanchez01


Next, the storm bitches!


This is pure win in so many ways. Would like to see them finished next man.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/22 04:31:17


Post by: Boss Salvage


\mm/

Psyched to see an update dude! Happy to see the beak gone on the bwagon, look forward to seeing just how uber the icon is that's going on those crossbeams! Way impressive mob of chicks too, can never have too many platform boots

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/22 09:02:35


Post by: Cilithan


Yep. Great pictures, great terrain, great conversions, great paintjobs, beautifull models. Very inspirational. If Im starting an all Nurgle Chaos Daemons army (likely) I'll soo use the Ghouls as a basis for Plaguebearers after seeing your models.

Grats on your skills

Cilithan


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/22 13:55:03


Post by: Wehrkind


Salvage: Glad to see you can at least reach the keyboard from under the pile of books!
On chicks: Yea, I really love the models. That, and their very specific poses is making it difficult to want to cut them up too much. I am thinking that different tattoo patterns on their acres of bare skin will differentiate them enough from one another.
On chaos icons: the plan, after a few failed starts, one of which you can see behind the rokkit boy, is to have a 3x4" icon with two big banner/scrolls hanging from the left and right horizontal angle, with a guardsman crucified X style in the middle. I figure it will help tie the whole thing together with the loyalists, as well as give a nice rolling "Do not deny us! On your knees!" effect. I am secretly hoping that adding a little more slope to the back, as well as some painting of blood/flesh blots, along with the tentacles will help invoke the idea of the cuttlefish I was sort of going for. (Which I hadn't really realized I was going for until just now.)

Cilithan: Glad you enjoy it! The ghouls are really great models and very flexible for a lot of different applications. Getting a box or two just in case seems like a strong plan for just about anyone Many other people have done much better work with them than I have!

Sanchez: I have to credit my wife for the Storm Bitches moniker. I do think I am going to have to finish getting them chopped and primed tonight though. I am really excited to see them with some paint and ink!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Ok just a quick update tonight since I didn't get much done before dinner and my night time meeting. I started putting some procreate on the girls to try and spice up the different models so that no two are exactly alike, even if REALLY similar. Here's a look.


GW really needs to come out with a sprue of boobs... it took me like an hour to get those two spare ones made, and I am too scared to add nips until it has 24 hours to cure :(

Also, shame on Salvage for not being available for my call in my half hour or so of need! You guys came REALLY close to dealing with grey stuff tentacle dongs on a girl or two, as Mr Can't Answer My Phone Because I Need To Study Instead of Talking About Modeling left me to my own sense of decorum while making the decision. I came really close to naming this "The Lost and the Futa"... :-P

Also, Mistress Zagstruck got a new right arm complete with daemon symbiote shoota! (The left arm is going to get a proper Slaaneshi sword in due time as well.)




Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/23 17:41:50


Post by: Boss Salvage


Wehrkind wrote:
GW really needs to come out with a sprue of boobs... it took me like an hour to get those two spare ones made, and I am too scared to add nips until it has 24 hours to cure :(

"Moar Bewbs!" was going to be my suggestion for how to differentiate the chicks a bit more ...

Also, shame on Salvage for not being available for my call in my half hour or so of need! You guys came REALLY close to dealing with grey stuff tentacle dongs on a girl or two, as Mr Can't Answer My Phone Because I Need To Study Instead of Talking About Modeling left me to my own sense of decorum while making the decision. I came really close to naming this "The Lost and the Futa"... :-P

Hilariously, I was in class leading a discussion on Freud and the death/life drives when my phone rang and blared out a snippet of "GET YOUR BODY BEAT!" by CombiChrist. If only I had known what you wanted to ask I would have put you on speaker

Also, Mistress Zagstruck got a new right arm complete with daemon symbiote shoota! (The left arm is going to get a proper Slaaneshi sword in due time as well.)

I quite like how emphatically she's busting somebody over the head with her scrap-on-a-stick, but yea, a slinky sword of slaaneshitude would probably work better. Nice gribble arm, but is her top in fact covered up? Lametasm, sir.

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/23 17:57:36


Post by: Wehrkind


Salvage: That would have been great! "Ok now, class, today we have a special treat! My slightly deranged friend is going to discuss with us the various aesthetic design choices surrounding women with male genetalia, as well as various tentacled manifestations thereof, with a mind towards both the effect on the human psyche as well as general creative action!"

On the plus side, the various reactions to it might have made a good filter criteria for "Girls in the class I might want to date later."

As to secondary sexual characteristics, I might try and sculpt a few more, hoping that I have gotten the knack for it a bit... anyone have any suggestions on the process?
I started with two small spheres of ProCreate, and glued them to the model where the middle or so of each breast was supposed to be. I then put my sculpting tool, ever so gently, on ball in the middle of the upper third and pulled it to the ribcage just below the existing breast. The next 45 minutes were spent getting them even and spread left to right properly, as well as yelling at my cat, who, having multiple mammaries herself, apparently thought she had a lot to add to the process.

As to Zagstruck, she does actually have cloth straps over her jibblies, strange considering the rest of the model line. I suppose I could scrape them off and resmooth out the area, but they are pretty thick. My original thought was to just have the tail of the daemonic symbiote on her weapon poking at them a little just to suggest "dirty", but maybe removing them completely is the best bet.
Also, I am thinking less "delicate sword" and more "heavy Slaaneshi icon shaped saber". I might make some demos tonight and see what you think. Gotta do the claws on her feet too...


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/23 18:15:12


Post by: JonnyDelta


I'm so confused right now.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/23 18:21:31


Post by: Wehrkind


Why? We are just talkin' 'bout shaft.

:-D


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/24 01:32:16


Post by: Boss Salvage


Wait, you're getting rid of her robo-feet? Cause they're pretty legit ... But I guess Zaggy does have power-feet or whatever, S8 not quite fitting those grippers she's got right now. On Ms. Z's tatas I was mostly giving a hard time, straps are acceptable - unfortunate, but acceptable.

Making me wonder how to get more boobs in my chaos marine army. I do have 12 lovely Diaz demonettes, but that's feeling pretty conservative in comparison! Me and the lads have been talking about doing something crazy for our next fantasy army build up league, and the idea has been tossed around about doing a LOT of not-quite-brettonian brettonia armies. I've got some grisly demon knight ideas kicking around, and damsels would be a good candidate for boobtasm ...

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/24 04:13:17


Post by: scarab


Wow! Still lots of wild cool stuff going on Wehr. Love the tentacled thingamabob!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2009/09/24 13:25:41


Post by: Wehrkind


Scarab: Thanks man I have been struggling a bit with it, just because vehicles are always difficult to mod for me, and it is a lot of sculpting as opposed to the more PC spackling I call sculpting on models. It is good to hear the efforts are looking good to those more talented! (Or at least not revolting )

Salvage: Oh no, she will retain the robo feet, in fact that's one of the reasons I picked the model. I am just going to add some metal claws to them to make them look a little more like power klaws/angry feet. I am still a little disappointed about her clothing... I guess she took all the other girl's stuff and decided to wear it herself?
As to your chaos ladz, you ought to add a greater daemon or something similar. For maximum bewbz you could do it like siamese twins, two giant daemonette torsos with one set of legs. You can probably find a 54mm chick torso or something... somehere... Or possibly get a 54mm female dollie and sculpt your eyes out. I will see if I can track some down other than the reaper ones (which are fairly nice.)


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Edit: Bronze Age has some 54mm dollies that might work, as well as a pile of nekkid women. Apparently in their world, women can buy clothes or guns, BUT NOT BOTH!http://www.bronzeagemin.com/miniatures_html/25MM/GENERICS/Female%20generics/32Generic-females-1.htm


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/23 22:25:46


Post by: Wehrkind


So, yea, it has been a really long time since I updated. Between my natural laziness and the long holiday rush, I just haven't gotten much gaming or painting in.
However, now I need to be studying for my GREs, which means I am VERY interested in getting other gak done!

So, most importantly, in Lost and the Orky world, I got some good games in the past couple of weeks, with one 2000 pointer with Boss Salvage over the past weekend. It was a great game, with a big bloody smash-up in the middle of the field over three objectives that ended in a draw. All my lads performed admirably, with two exceptions.
1) Zagstruck did jack. The storm bitches came in late, and drifted out of charge range on the DS. Next turn they got smashed down by a defiler they couldn't hurt because Zaggy only has a PK on the charge. Great...
2) Zog'Wort peaked early, turning Salvages one and only HQ, a mighty Tizz warlord into a little blue Squig, and then proceeding to accomplish nothing the rest of the game. So, while technically making his points back, he really underperformed as well.
Picture of Thousand Sons after finding out they have adopted a slavering beast (just before they threw him in front of a tank.)


Decision: Those two have got to go.

So pulling Zaggy in favor of a Nob with PK and Zoggy leaves me with ~160 points or so. After playing around, I decided that meant 10 points for Cybork on the boss, and a big mek with shokk attack gun and 12 ablative gretchin to sit with on an objective.

So, that decided, I feverishly got to work building them!

Mek in progress:



I am going for sort of a fallen mechanicus fellow, with hood and robe and mechy parts. Largely I am happy with him so far, but making the servo arm that connects his backpack to his gun has been a big pain. Otherwise he is coming along nicely I think.

And... CHAOS HOBBITS!



Just crypt ghoul heads on Gretchin bodies, but I like the effect. Unfortunately the gretchin box comes with 3 guys with molded on heads, so I cut down the ears and noses a little. It sort of looks iffy though, so I suspect I will be acquiring 3-5 more headless grots to mod up. I also am iffy about the giant revolvers... hopefully when painted they look a little better.

You can kind of see in the big picture the runt herd in the background. I am working on sort of a black leather S&M mask for him, which I figure fits his theme well. I almost went with a clown face, but that would just be too creepy.

Also, in storm bitch news, after slaving away practicing painting skin tones, I am about ready to take the plunge and rip into them. so, in two weeks or so, there will be bitches storming in full paint! (and not much else.)


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/23 23:14:37


Post by: Boss Salvage


*chaos facepalm*

In other news, I'm happy to hear you're going with a shokk attak, which is a really bizarre weapon in its own book! The DarkMech dude looks quite promising, and the hobbitses will absorb bullets nicely

Good luck on the stormbitches!

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/24 01:49:18


Post by: Wehrkind


Quick update: Chaos Hobbits with paint!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/24 02:04:59


Post by: Teek


Wow, the kitbash on the Grots/Hobbits (Grobbits?) is deceptively simple, but has a fantastic final look! Kudos!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/24 02:46:09


Post by: The Good Green


The chaos hobbits are great. This army is wonderful. I don't know that I've ever seen something count as the Orks codex... plenty of gobos counting as (other), but never counts as gobos.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/24 09:33:20


Post by: Shaman


This thread rules.

Let me say I like the Ogre as the nob.

All your stuff is looking great. Really unique army.

Back to studying I go.. *sniffle*


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/24 13:01:17


Post by: Llamahead


You my dear boy are a twisted genius and I couldn't help but grin at the Storm Bitches with Zagstrukk. Stiletto Heels from Above! Yowch.....


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/24 14:02:12


Post by: abhorsen950


Great stuff.
There looking really cool.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/24 14:22:11


Post by: walker90234


wow!
permission to use the crypt ghoulds with gas masks?


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/24 16:44:49


Post by: Anung Un Rama


Nice conversions! It's actually the second time I see such a combination of parts. I don't remeber who it was, but there's a guy posting here who put zombie heads on Gnoblar bodies to use them as ratling snipers in a traitor guard army. Though your concept is also pretty cool. I might steal that for my traitor guard army as a conscript unit.

The fallen mechanicus looks promising. I might steal that idea as well.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/24 20:32:30


Post by: Wehrkind


Teek: Thanks man. I am glad it turned out as well as it did. Super easy, and still has a fairly creepy asthetic. Those ghoul kits are so handy

The Good Green: Thanks! I really recommend trying something similar out with Chaos lads and traitor guard and the like. The army plays out so nicely, and is just a lot of fun in general. You can't do everything you could do with CSM or IG, but you can come really close in most cases, and CSM with 3 attacks and 2 wounds base is just awesome

Shaman, Llamahead, abhorsen950: Thanks, glad you lads enjoy it

Walker90234: Knock yourself out. They are Pig Iron heads. Also, I can't take credit for creating them. Tinfoil here turned me onto the idea. he has a great blog floating around here somewhere.

Anung: Thanks, glad you approve! I think I will have the mek together tonight (after I buckle down and study some myself) so I will be looking for your comments and suggestions. That goes for all of you Only having my wife and myself for criticism leads me down some weird paths.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/24 21:36:40


Post by: Anung Un Rama


Well, if you want some construcitive critisism:
The gun looks cool but it's still mostly a Tau Melta. You should do something about the middle and/or the back part of the gun. The tank on the downside looks good, but it still screams Greatet Good to me. A few wires from the gun to his back pakc would be a good start. Maybe a omnissia oder Chaos icon to cover it up.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/31 18:29:43


Post by: walker90234


where do you get the gasmasks?


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/01/31 19:02:13


Post by: Empchild


Just went through this thread and I utterly LOVE it. It's a great idea with tons of cool conversions, and I say Kudos to you for it!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/02/01 02:34:43


Post by: kestral


Outstanding all around. You've really done a great job at putting together varied but recognizable groups of figures. Looking forward to seeing the storm girlz as well - and the Chobbits are great! Their proportions are much better than one would expect.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/22 23:26:49


Post by: Wehrkind


Ok, I disappeared for nearly 2 months. Sorry about that. Some real world stuff with work and other bits has really left me drained, and I did very little painting or building. What I did do is as follows:

Baddies: The mek got some paint, along with Boss Snikrot and the remaining burna kommando:



They are still pretty far from done, with the burna being closest and the mek being pretty far. I would like to note that the angle of the camera makes Snikky's hand look a bit bigger than it actually is, but not a lot. I do wish I could put him on a 40mm base though like the mek. He looks kind of silly on the little one there.

Earlier in my absence I was working on this, which burned me out on pink so hard I haven't gotten back to her, but she is about 80% done. 80% done, and completely unrelated to this army...


A very nice model to put together and paint, and very good customer service (I had some problems with missing bits and they fixed it quickly.) Soda Pop Minis are good folks with nice products.

Finally, perhaps it was because I was lacking about half a roof on my house, I felt compelled to paint up my Fortress of Redemption, which is nearly large enough to house my two cats. Very WIP so far, and reminding me why I hate painting buildings and large vehicles, but coming along.


So, micro update. I might still add some more cables to the ad-mek guy, but otherwise I think he just needs more paint.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/23 15:19:39


Post by: Boss Salvage


DarkMech is looking nice, though I'm most looking forward to seeing Snik further along and from better angles. Is his one arm supposed to be some grafted on mutie arm? Hence the odd flesh tone in this shot?

Nice progress on the FoR, but holy crap that soda pop mini is kicking butt! Beautiful bright colors against your trademark grimdark basing scheme = win

Though I do want to put a plasma round through that bunny's idiot grin and jolly little dance

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/23 18:58:18


Post by: Wehrkind


Salvage: Glad you like the mek and all. I am hoping the paint is camoflaging the sourches of bits some.

As per request, here are some more angles, both of Snik and the Mek.





Snikky's arm is supposed to be being slowly possessed by a Khornate demon, his flesh becoming more and more corrupted and... bloodlettery... with every kill. I was kind of thinking of Princess Monoke, where Ashitaka's arm gets possessed by some manner of hate demon and gets more scarred yet powerful as he gets angry and time passes. That, and the Police were probably playing on the radio...

Every corpse you make
Every head you take
Every bone you break
Every skin you flay
I'm possessin you


Yes... I know... I will go report to my regimental commisar for punishment.

Also yes, 1000 times yes, that Soda Pop mini is great. A little intimidating, especially painting SO MANY LAYERS of a light color, but the model is not overly detailed, yet very finely detailed, so it isn't too nuts but still gives great results. It is pretty exhausting though, and Mayla herself is so finely detailed I have to wait till I get just enough sleep and am in just the right state of mind to really do her justice, otherwise I make more mistakes than progress. Still, LOVE the model, and I might pick up the other two as painting pieces.

Here's more pics of that.





I am glad you like the mix of pretty pink glitter princess and grimdark. I was thinking that the very delicate "Ew I don't want to touch this anymore than I need to" look of the right hand just supporting weight with one finger reminded me so much of Angela in a similar position that it worked out nicely. Sort of the robot trying to avoid getting dirty if at all possible, whether the driver cares or not.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/23 19:56:41


Post by: Llamahead


You know given this is a Chaos army I'd be tempted to use her as a freaky scary Chaos Dreadnaught. The colours just make me think Daemon Engine of Slaanesh......


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/23 19:59:07


Post by: Wehrkind


Hehe that is a little tempting, running her as a Deff Dread in the force, or maybe Ghazzy. My worry though is that it is a fairly delicate model, with all the little flanges and the limbs themslelves being fairly delicately attached. I really think she is just going to be a show piece, maybe entered into a contest but otherwise living in a glass box.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/24 03:00:49


Post by: Boss Salvage


<3 for that last shot man, like whoa

Cheers on all the other angles, caught some stuff I had missed on the mech (helpy arm snaking around the side!) and confirmed that Snikky is about as strange a mongoloid killer as I remembered him being. Not that that's a bad thing, nicely justified by your fluff

Back to Mayla, she really makes me want to commit to the Infinity force I've been kicking around for a solid year now. But I think I'm doing Mordheim this summer instead, so a bunch of orcs that cost $ and take no time will be beating out the $$$ & time-sink of a gang of hot cyber chicks

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/24 03:08:03


Post by: DictatorGames


Candy and Cola does catch my eye


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/24 03:10:33


Post by: Boss Salvage


DictatorGames wrote:something a bit more. . . . manly. . . than giant cutsey thong billboards with guns....

*shaking his sarcophagus helm so hard right now*

(A+ for 'thong billboards' though )

- Salvage


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/24 04:07:23


Post by: Wehrkind


*L* There's a lot of detail... back there...

It is a shame 40k doesn't have a tapping mechanic, with dat ass...

Glad you are dealing with Snikky. I didn't get a lot more this evening other than powering through the base wing coats and purple stockings/sleeves on 11 Stormbitches before my back told me I was done. Needs more sleep, this little servant of chaos does...


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/24 10:02:25


Post by: Halsfield


Just read through all 4 pages. Really love the entire army idea, the painting, modeling, and every little detail you put into this. I've been playing chaos since the 90's but I've always leaned more towards iron warriors/night lords. However, I just finished reading dark apostle (word bearer's book) and everything you've done fits right into your army(they turned the populace of a world into brainwashed cultists/slaves with gas-masks/etc).

Keep it up!


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/24 10:32:34


Post by: Anung Un Rama


Those are pretty cool. Full of character. I like them all.

btw.: the original Snikrot does come with a 40mm base, so there's nothing holding you from doing that yourself.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/24 13:21:05


Post by: Wehrkind


Halsfield: Really? I will have to pick that up then and scrape some ideas out of it.
Glad you like the look of the army too. I really need to get the vehicles together and ready so I can revile these fellows to the world, or at least the FLGSs

Anung Un Rama: Snikky does come on a 40mm? Sexy... I will have to rebuild one for him quick. The fact he overhangs by nearly another 20mm makes the 25mm base sort of pointless. He pretty much wraps his arms around AoBR marines when in b2b as it is...

Also, are you finding the components of the Shokk Attakk gun a little less recognizable? That was your concern earlier and I am hoping I covered it enough with paint and some bits to conceal it some.

Thanks for the comments guys! Keep the C&C coming; it worries me when my only feedback is my own head.
Plus, if I get a little extra crazy and work on the superheavy I will post some pics of that. Because every army with half built vehicles needs a superheavy...


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/24 14:07:07


Post by: Anung Un Rama


You're right, I said that. Looks much better now.


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/26 09:34:54


Post by: Halsfield


Wehrkind wrote:Halsfield: Really? I will have to pick that up then and scrape some ideas out of it.
Glad you like the look of the army too. I really need to get the vehicles together and ready so I can revile these fellows to the world, or at least the FLGSs


*possible very minor spoilers below, no important story/plot spoilers just descriptions of word bearer tactics and equipment*

I'm just starting the second book, but the sheer amount of details I never knew about the word bearers/space marines in general is pretty astonishing. Of course most of it probably isn't 100% canon, but it is a great starting point for details that make an army like this great.

For instance their use of khantankas (sacrificial blades that are built by each word bearer himself as his own personal blade, ie each blade is unique, one is curved and serrated with runes, another is very sleek and ashen, another decoration-less and more like a small broadsword, etc). They corrupted citizens of the planet to chaos through the use of "discords" (floating robot/bionic/daemon creatures that blared tempting words/screams/etc day and night). The slaves at one point were in high atmospheres working so they brought about these horrible tentacled boxes that rammed into the slaves' mouths and acted like gas masks but changed their voices to a daemonic language. They actually saved some of the citizens of the planet from certain death just to make them into slaves. They also chained them to defilers/other possessed war machines that dragged them into battle as living cannon fodder.

One of the dark apostles used flying tzeentch mantas as a living shield around him. He had smaller mantas(bass/fish sized) flowing/weaving around his body to take small arms fire and devour anything that got close and had larger(man-sized) mantas to rip apart bigger enemies and take larger hits for him. He also rode a disc of tzeentch =p. Was interesting to see their actual use of daemons in a way other than "go kill this"

Another neat portrayal was that of the kathartes (another name for a fury, but these were summoned through the consumption of live slaves). In the "real" material world they were skinless horrific things. In the immaterium they were beautiful alluring women with angel wings. Thought it was neat that these horrible creatures appeared angelic in the warp.

The description of the possessed csm burias changed my whole perspective of the unit. They portrayed the possessed as being regular marines most of the time that could "bring forth" their daemon when needed (nearly werewolf-like) to gain speed, stealth, improved hearing/sight/smell, durability(taking many deadly shots that then healed over), and cunning. I had figured them as little more than slightly thinking daemons that didn't need summoning, but this gave them a lot more depth and control.

Through all of this you feel yourself pulling for the word bearers and the side of chaos. It was pretty strange actually but it made for a really great read that made me yearn for my old word bearers army that I sold >_< (also had a small alpha legion squad and some iron warriors vehicles/troops).

Let's see those vehicles! No time for reading! Work work work ! =p


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/26 11:11:12


Post by: TaintedMess


Halsfield wrote:However, I just finished reading dark apostle (word bearer's book) and everything you've done fits right into your army(they turned the populace of a world into brainwashed cultists/slaves with gas-masks/etc).


I read Dark Apostle and its 2 sequels not all that long ago there ace some of the best BL books I've read in a while the techpreist in them is what sparked my Dark mechanicus army.

there's definitely some nice info in them concerning the world bearer's


Traitors of Sanctus Fornax (The Lost and the Orky) Update 03/22/10 @ 2010/03/26 15:43:46


Post by: Lord of Kaith


Some great painting here. Keep at it.