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Post by: jmurph
GWUUUHHHH???? 
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Post by: Shotgun
My guess.
Death Hag.
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Post by: ThunderChild
Either a woman, as it has the appropriate gaps in the chest plate, or it's a man undergoing HRT treatment. I'm going with the former 
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Post by: Hammerziet
GWUUUHHHH???? Indeed.
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Post by: P4NC4K3
the moral of the story is that DE are bad and no-one should talk to them in the playground
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Post by: avantgarde
There's only way to resolve this conundrum in the style of GW, that is to add more boobs.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
And this is why GW only makes rail thin whores with enormous breasts for female models. The moment they don't the fanbases gender issues arise.
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Post by: MagickalMemories
Either that, ShumaGorath, or the OP was thrown off my the amazingly masculine features of the face, hands and legs.
Eric
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Post by: stonefox
Man with gynecomastia.
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Post by: stonefox
ShumaGorath wrote:And this is why GW only makes rail thin whores with enormous breasts for female models. Because their fanbase only knows of girls in porn form.
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Post by: chaplaingrabthar
It's a Hag
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
It's a Trap!
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
ShumaGorath wrote:And this is why GW only makes rail thin whores with enormous breasts for female models. The moment they don't the fanbases gender issues arise.
Which is different from all other Fantasy ranges how?
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Post by: AzurePhoenix
Most of the features are forgiveable... but the man face is just hideous.
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Post by: Platuan4th
AzurePhoenix wrote:Most of the features are forgiveable... but the man face is just hideous.
I think the man face is quite forgivable considering how many male GW Elves have woman face issues.
I think androgyny and checking under the hood is a problem you have to live with if you're talking about elf sex.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
stonefox wrote:ShumaGorath wrote:And this is why GW only makes rail thin whores with enormous breasts for female models. Because their fanbase only knows of girls in porn form.
Stonefox. A bizarre array of focusing mirrors and lenses turning my phrases into even more accurate clones of themselves (in human form). I applaud you sir.
Which is different from all other Fantasy ranges how?
Did I say it was?
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Post by: Schepp himself
I always thought that Elves or Eldar should have skinny and fit women and that the elven men should be well trained but not pumped up, "drahtig" as you say in german.
Sticking boobs on a man doesn't make a good female model.
Greets
Schepp himself
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Schepp himself wrote:"drahtig" as you say in german.
In this case, the word I'd use to describe it would be "Scheiße".
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Please keep Gary Morley away from elf sculpting.
This along with the rest of the dreadlords just released is a nasty looking model.
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Post by: Cyporiean
this brings up a good point, has anyone found a female in the High Elf range?
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Post by: jmurph
Hrm. Long lost sisters(?)
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Post by: Joyous_Oblivion
Its a Gary Morley sculpt, how can we not complain about it? How he still has a job with GWs sculpting team baffles my brain...
If anything he should be sculpting Chaos and orcs/orks. He cannot do the fine features of elves, and his hands all look like like large human style hands.
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Post by: Osbad
Joyous_Oblivion wrote:Its a Gary Morley sculpt, how can we not complain about it? How he still has a job with GWs sculpting team baffles my brain...
He left GW last year. Sadly some of his sculpts were still in the pipeline though.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
jmurph wrote:Hrm. Long lost sisters(?)
long lost buttaface!
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Post by: Delephont
This only goes to show that no one on the games workshop team knows anything about female structure!
I don't think the lack of appreciation for this figure has anything to do with a typical gamers knowledge of the porn industry!!
More likely its the case that most modern gamers have actually slept with a girl to realise that the thing shown at the top of the page can only be classed as a woman in his worst nightmares!
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Post by: Hordini
It is pretty horrible. I hate the pose, even if it didn't look so unfeminine.
And thanks Schepp, "drahtig" is a new one. Please feel free to post more German.
Neues Wort: abnötigen
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Proppa dark elf.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
This only goes to show that no one on the games workshop team knows anything about female structure!
Sword wielding barbarian women don't have the curves the average super model does. The models face is even somewhat feminine (if craggy). This is all more about the standard of beauty in models rather than realistic female proportions. Wide hips and large thighs don't make you a dude, they just mean you have wide hips and large thighs.  The models problem is that it doesn't conform to the physically malformed standard of beauty seen in most "warrior women". Killkrazys "elf", other than having broken thighs has the same damn problem most female models in this industry have. The thighs are as thick or thicker then the torso itself. Hot yes, but not really human.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Osbad wrote:
I wouldn't crawl over her to get to you.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
ShumaGorath wrote:
This only goes to show that no one on the games workshop team knows anything about female structure!
Sword wielding barbarian women don't have the curves the average super model does. The models face is even somewhat feminine (if craggy). This is all more about the standard of beauty in models rather than realistic female proportions. Wide hips and large thighs don't make you a dude, they just mean you have wide hips and large thighs.
http://www.latinoreview.com/images/user/chun-li.jpg
The models problem is that it doesn't conform to the physically malformed standard of beauty seen in most "warrior women". Killkrazys "elf", other than having broken thighs has the same damn problem most female models in this industry have. The thighs are as thick or thicker then the torso itself. Hot yes, but not really human.
To be fair though, Dark Elves aren't human.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Which is why it's a bad ELF model, not a bad female model. Elves are supposed to be lithe and curvy (yet skinnier then the model you posted). They are also supposed to be sharply featured in the face.
It's a bad portrayal of an elf, but its one of the best female warrior models I've seen GW produce.
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Post by: jmurph
Since when is the miniature industry about "realistic" anything? I thought they were supposed to sculpt toy soldiers that look cool. Like metal Conans and chainmail bikini models and fire breathing Trogdors.
Berserkers with their junk hanging out would be more "realistic". Doesn't mean we need the Chaos marauder peen legion. Maybe warrior women would be all fugly and scary. Doesn't mean we need dark elf she-men.
Elves should look graceful and feminine. The men should look like women, not vice versa. That's for orcs! Don't they know their fantasy stereotypes? NERDRAGE!!!!
Srsly.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
It's another Trap!
What's next? Amanda Lepore?
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Since when is the miniature industry about "realistic" anything? I thought they were supposed to sculpt toy soldiers that look cool. Like metal Conans and chainmail bikini models and fire breathing Trogdors.
Rule of cool wasn't what this thread was about though. Personally I don't mind seeing a female warrior figure that doesn't look like a cheerleader with a sword it couldn't possibly hold. It makes the setting more convincing for me.
Rob liefield anatomy was supposed to die with him.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Rob Liefeld died? Yes!
...
crap, no.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
jmurph wrote:Since when is the miniature industry about "realistic" anything? I thought they were supposed to sculpt toy soldiers that look cool. Like metal Conans and chainmail bikini models and fire breathing Trogdors.
Berserkers with their junk hanging out would be more "realistic". Doesn't mean we need the Chaos marauder peen legion. Maybe warrior women would be all fugly and scary. Doesn't mean we need dark elf she-men.
Elves should look graceful and feminine. The men should look like women, not vice versa. That's for orcs! Don't they know their fantasy stereotypes? NERDRAGE!!!!
Srsly.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Nice one.
Too bad the run is over.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Maybe he'll do one for The Hobbit.
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Post by: Platuan4th
ShumaGorath wrote:Rob liefield anatomy was supposed to die with him.
If GW followed Rob Liefeld's school of anatomy, none of their models would have feet.
Or if they did have feet, they'd all be pointy and every woman would walk en pointe.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
That DMoTR page is the greatest. Many props.
"He should have named you 'Leggo of My Ass,' because you're going to be saying that to me a lot."
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Post by: Miguelsan
Once I read a semi-erotic web story about how male elves were very much into gay sex and how female elves adopted manly clothes, cut their hair and bind their breast to be noticed by the guys.
Now I`m sure the guys in charge of the WHFB elf lines read the same thing.
M.
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Post by: Hordini
I actually don't buy very many female models, because I think the way they portray women is absolutely ridiculous. Most of them just look fake, really. I think it's really refreshing to see a well-proportioned female miniature, partially because so many look, as ShumaGorath said, like cheerleaders carrying swords they couldn't possibly lift.
That said, I disagree about this mini here. I don't think this model looks very feminine to me, but I think it's primarily the face. The proportions wouldn't be that bad if the face wasn't so horrible (although I do think they could be better). I do agree that it would still be un-elfish though, and would fit better as a female barbarian type, but that would require some other aesthetic changes, obviously. I don't care for the pose either though, as I said before. The way she's holding the sword in her right hand just looks stupid to me.
Das Wort: umsonst
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Post by: Sidstyler
I don't really see what's wrong with the model, personally. I've contemplated buying it for my own DE army.
The ONLY possible problem I see is the face, and I think that's just how it's painted, without having seen the model. It looks like she's wearing paint or some kind of mask and I can't make out many features at all. :\
...well it's obviously not a mask...maybe just a lot of eyeliner...
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Am I missing something, or is this thread just about a hag being ugly?
Because that's kind of what a hag is, isn't it?
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Post by: krusty
Hordini wrote:Most of them just look fake, really.
...omg...
wait...
let me get this straight...
the models im buying for my fantasy board games dont look like the real life version?
SINCE WHEN?!
i always knew that orcs forehead should be bigger...
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Post by: Hordini
Orkeosaurus wrote:Am I missing something, or is this thread just about a hag being ugly?
Because that's kind of what a hag is, isn't it?
Okay. Okay.
You are right. For me though, when I think "hag," a model that looks a bit older comes to mind.
Das Wort:
Der Tacho(meter)
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Hordini wrote:Okay. Okay.
You are right. For me though, when I think "hag," a model that looks a bit older comes to mind.
Didn't mean to be rude, I just don't know much about dark elves, or what a Death Hag's supposed to look like.
I agree on the looking older thing. This model looks like it wasn't supposed to be as ugly as it is. 
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Post by: Typeline
Kilkrazy wrote:
First I was like: ....
But then I lol'd!
Does GW employ any female sculpters? I'm fairly certain that if they did they could just get the women to prevent such horrible monstrosities from leaving the sculpting stage looking like men.
I have no idea why I think women could better sculpt female pieces though.
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Post by: frgsinwntr
that model makes me think of this...
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Poor photoshop?
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Post by: Hordini
krusty wrote:Hordini wrote:Most of them just look fake, really.
...omg...
wait...
let me get this straight...
the models im buying for my fantasy board games dont look like the real life version?
SINCE WHEN?!
O rly? Ja, I noe itz too much to ask for well-proportioned models. It is a fantasy game, write?! ITS FANTUSY N00B!!! Proportions don't matter!!! LOL!!!!1!
Oh, and Orkeosaurus, I didn't think you were being rude, I got what you were saying. I was just sort of channeling Tacobake for a minute, I think. Plus I like bolding words sometimes. Where has be been lately anyway? I miss that dude already.
Das Wort:
Das Größenverhältnis
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Post by: Hordini
Oh, I meant to post this too. Also, I'm pretty sure Taco is still here, I'm just being silly.
You suck at Photoshop
Das Wort:
ringen
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Post by: malfred
In before lock?
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
All we need is a link to 4chan, and we're done!
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Post by: Hordini
That's totally unrealistic Malfred. He doesn't look like a real Dark Elf at all.
Das Wort:
vorziehen
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Post by: malfred
I'm not taking that bait.
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Post by: Lordhat
Kilkrazy wrote:jmurph wrote:Since when is the miniature industry about "realistic" anything? I thought they were supposed to sculpt toy soldiers that look cool. Like metal Conans and chainmail bikini models and fire breathing Trogdors.
Berserkers with their junk hanging out would be more "realistic". Doesn't mean we need the Chaos marauder peen legion. Maybe warrior women would be all fugly and scary. Doesn't mean we need dark elf she-men.
Elves should look graceful and feminine. The men should look like women, not vice versa. That's for orcs! Don't they know their fantasy stereotypes? NERDRAGE!!!!
Srsly.
I wants more! Where can I find more?
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
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Post by: Lordhat
THANKS!
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Post by: Platuan4th
Typeline wrote:Does GW employ any female sculpters?
They do if Trish Morrison still works there, but she only sculpts monsters, I think.
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Post by: Billybobdozer
Well at least the Wood Elves look like women.
Except for the Dryads. They're giant PMSing woodland walking tampons of doom.
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Post by: malfred
Billybobdozer wrote:Well at least the Wood Elves look like women.
Except for the Dryads. They're giant PMSing woodland walking tampons of doom.
That would explain my paint job.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
This thread has class.
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
Maybe the guys at GW where lazy had to come up with a new model and said "Hell,I need a break from this place!Lets stick boobs on a random dark elf call it a women and call it a week!"
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
I think this proves my point:
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Post by: LunaHound
Hordini wrote:I actually don't buy very many female models, because I think the way they portray women is absolutely ridiculous. Most of them just look fake, really. I think it's really refreshing to see a well-proportioned female miniature, partially because so many look, as ShumaGorath said, like cheerleaders carrying swords they couldn't possibly lift.
That said, I disagree about this mini here. I don't think this model looks very feminine to me, but I think it's primarily the face. The proportions wouldn't be that bad if the face wasn't so horrible (although I do think they could be better). I do agree that it would still be un-elfish though, and would fit better as a female barbarian type, but that would require some other aesthetic changes, obviously. I don't care for the pose either though, as I said before. The way she's holding the sword in her right hand just looks stupid to me.
Das Wort: umsonst
Im not sure why you think the women portrayed are any more ridiculous then the male sculpts . Both gender sculpted have over all: muscular / fine toned shape
I mean its rare for the main troops ( minus fluff characters ) to be fat flabby or scrawny right? Maybe just an ideal figure is what they are aiming for?
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Post by: Kilkrazy
malfred wrote:
In before lock?
Wow! That guy has three arms. Good Indian deity cosplay!
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Post by: Miguelsan
Those links are false, a lie, pie, if there were a sculptor in the world with the ability to sculpt proportioned females he or she would be working for GW...no
M.
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Post by: Wehrkind
Malfred... I hate you. So hard...
I seriously heaved bile into my mouth after absorbing that picture.
You are a bad little man.
Edit: Oh... right, the topic. Forgot about that.
I really think part of GW's issues with females arises from their "heroic 28mm" style. Oversized weapons, hands and heads make for poor looking females, so they oversize other stylistic elements usually. The result looks more like a bad post op tranny than an actual human with two X chromosomes. This isn't universally true, but seems to be a common theme with GW, just as oversized hips and breasts along with a terrifically short torso seems to be a theme with many mini companies.
Personally, I wish GW would get back a little more towards a true scale like they did with the LotR figures. Maybe not all the way, since bolters look cool after all, but I think the old Catachans, Chaos Marauders and many of the Sisters of Battle are good examples of how their over the top style can fail them.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
If you put some true scale miniatures next to GW heroic figures, it looks grotesque.
At first you think the true scale minis have all got anorexia, then you realise the GW figures are all on massive doses of steroids and human growth hormone.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Here's a proper lady.
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Post by: LunaHound
Anyone ever heard of Sandra Larue Garrity ?
Best female / horse sculptor in the world.
And yes, GW can learn alot from her.
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Post by: chaplaingrabthar
LunaHound wrote:
Anyone ever heard of Sandra Larue Garrity ?
Best female / horse sculptor in the world.
So with those areas of expertise she'd be phenomenal at sculpting Cmilla Parker-Bowles & Sarah Jessica Parker then?
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Post by: Arctik_Firangi
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Post by: Miguelsan
Err... SoB new releases?
M.
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Post by: LunaHound
chaplaingrabthar wrote:LunaHound wrote:
Anyone ever heard of Sandra Larue Garrity ?
Best female / horse sculptor in the world.
So with those areas of expertise she'd be phenomenal at sculpting Cmilla Parker-Bowles & Sarah Jessica Parker then?
dunno who they are, but Sandra sculpts for Reaper minis. Feel free to look the sculpts up
pics will speak better then words.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Arctik_Firangi wrote:
would
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Post by: Steelmage99
Wood?
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Post by: malfred
I'm so turned on right now.
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Post by: stonefox
I would with wood.
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Post by: jmurph
They would be totally awesome female marauders! Or male marauders depending on how Slaanesh was feeling that day.
And they could drag around pretty boy HE slaves around on chains. Too much?
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Post by: Platuan4th
chaplaingrabthar wrote:LunaHound wrote:
Anyone ever heard of Sandra Larue Garrity ?
Best female / horse sculptor in the world.
So with those areas of expertise she'd be phenomenal at sculpting Cmilla Parker-Bowles & Sarah Jessica Parker then?
Zing!
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Post by: Delephont
Well, obviously for most of the guys here the subject is a bit digital....either its a cheerleader or a she-man with a chin to base jump off of.
What about some of the top dancers out there, and if you think they're not strong then you have no idea! Top martial artists, 100m runners, gymnasts...the list goes on. These women have super fitness, great stamina, awesome strength and absolutley gorgeous bodies....could they lift a sword? yeah, and they could hurt you with it as well.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Pound for pound, sure.
But put that 4'10" 90# gymnast against a 6'4" 400# linebacker in heavy armor and see what happens. If she doesn't get a golden BB to a vital spot, all he needs to do is bash her, and she's out. Give him any sort of reach weapon (zweihander / polearm), and his reach advantage is insurmountable.
That is why martial arts contests are weight classed.
Sure, a flyweight is quick, but he has no chance against a heavyweight.
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Post by: stonefox
This is why GW games need more characters like these:
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Post by: fullheadofhair
Miguelsan wrote:Once I read a semi-erotic web story about how male elves were very much into gay sex
M.
ummmm ... not exactly your every day bathroom reading material.
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Post by: Delephont
JohnHwangDD wrote:Pound for pound, sure.
But put that 4'10" 90# gymnast against a 6'4" 400# linebacker in heavy armor and see what happens. If she doesn't get a golden BB to a vital spot, all he needs to do is bash her, and she's out. Give him any sort of reach weapon (zweihander / polearm), and his reach advantage is insurmountable.
That is why martial arts contests are weight classed.
Sure, a flyweight is quick, but he has no chance against a heavyweight.
Yes, but you've picked the smallest female against (arguably) the biggest average male......in the case of mortal combat she'd have to rely on superior fighting ability and agility to overcome him.....believe it or not, martial arts especially the internal styles, we're developed to cope with these occasions, amoungst other things.
But I digress. My point was not about pitting a against b, I'm just trying to give you a different perspective.....that in fact a woman can be at the top of her game, don armour, weild a sword (usefully) and still be able to get you moving in the pant department.
If you want to see well sculpted females in armour, with guns, swords etc then look at the stuff coming out of Enigma miniatures, Helldorado doesn't shy away from decent female action heroine sculpts, Infinity has a wide range of females brilliantly sculpted and of course check out the range from Dark Slave, Tales of War or Tale Revision series.....I wouldn't class these scuplts as cheerleaders or She-ra on steriods.....just well proportioned and convincing female sculpts.
GW needs to stick to wide legged Space Marines and impossibly posed male sculpts....its the best they can manage and we forgive them for it....are there better female miniatures out there? well, thats a choice you have to make.
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Post by: skavenfreak
All we need is a link to 4chan, and we're done!
Rules 1 and 2 plox...
Yo Dawg! We heard you liked traps, so we put a trap in a trap, so you can game WHILE you fap!
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Post by: Black Blow Fly
Dolly Parton meets Chavez.
* shudders *
G
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Post by: mcfly
Yeah, the models from GW are so manly. I don't know why they don't try to fix it though. I mean, WHFB has princesses and stuff and they need to be dainty. Has anyone ever told them all this stuff?
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Post by: two_heads_talking
MagickalMemories wrote:Either that, ShumaGorath, or the OP was thrown off my the amazingly masculine features of the face, hands and legs.
Eric
What? you people have never seen a woman who looks like a man in real life? Or a man that looks like a woman? It's not an original concept here.. Although froma modeling standpoint that model is FUGLY!!
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Post by: stonefox
But can't you see? We warhams players and our socially awkward propensity towards the opposite sex, absolutely demand beautiful women with FFFFFF cups. Oh Janet if only there was a miniature form of you I'd,
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