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Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/09 13:33:43


Post by: tallmantim


FYI - current project view...



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I like the soul grinder model, but despair that - especially for chaos - that these guys all look the same.

Which got me thinking - how could you make a custom one?

I have tried building the bottom part of a soul grinder leg, and have a potential donor piece for the basis of the body - a very old fantasy giant.



He is on a 40mm base and stands about 80mm high.

this would be in scale and provide a very different looking soul grinder - just worries about the amount of green stuffing I would need to do (I am a GS novice) plus whether I could make the dopey looking giant torso and head menacing.

As you may see from the scratch leg, I am playing around with using spue pieces as structure:



Thoughts?

Cheers


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/09 14:42:35


Post by: Paul Atreides


I want to see a little more before I put a real comment on this.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/09 14:58:13


Post by: mcfly


Yeah, you're gonna have to change that model a ton. I mean, the arm with the club will probably be changed, and you might want to beef up the arms, and cut off the nose, but I can see it being done.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/09 15:13:42


Post by: enmitee


i dunno, its quite ambitious of you.

but i'd rather pay 40-50$ to save the effort, more power to you though.



Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/10 12:25:27


Post by: tallmantim


OK

Decided that the old giant just wasn't going to cut it as a menacing demon machine of chaos.

So, moving on decided to have a go at least at making a fully scratch built beasty.

Now, I'll say this early in the piece - this is a modelling project as I enjoy modelling. It won't look anywhere near as good as the original Soul Grinder - that is already an excellent model.

So, built a base for it with tubing, coat hanger, sprue and a hotglue coating:





Looking to create a nurglesque Soul Grinder - hence the glue on the barrel of the phlegm cannon.

Cheers


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/10 12:33:04


Post by: Tomo009


Wow it actually looks like a good skeleton so far.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/11 09:58:24


Post by: tallmantim


OK - now with some milliput on there:





Next up once it's cured a little more is to put some green stuff over the top to smooth it out, add details etc. It is destined to be a fat soul grinder of Nurgle.

So - need to creat a close combat weapon for his left hand, add a close combat weapon to the reaper cannon on the right and create the walker base.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/11 10:01:03


Post by: Deadshane1


Weird.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/11 10:08:07


Post by: Lint


Dang, I was hoping you'd stick with the dopey giant. It would've been interesting. But still, looking good so far.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/11 14:02:31


Post by: tallmantim


OK - started some green stuffing.

First time I've used it for doing more than filling gaps, so having to work it out as I go along.



Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/12 00:30:41


Post by: Lint


Looks like he sneezed all over himself.... Very Nurgle appropriate I'd say.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/12 00:52:47


Post by: tallmantim


Thanks Lint, will try to do some work on making the fat folds look more realistic.

Cheers


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/13 15:13:25


Post by: tallmantim


OK - add a close combat weapon to the reaper cannon:



And created a close combat weapon for the left hand (still needs to be molded in and GS'ed up):



So it's coming along OK overall - still lots of work to do before I get onto the walker part.



Cheers.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/13 18:26:57


Post by: kharndude


that looks ok for right now.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/14 10:42:02


Post by: tallmantim


Top part just about finished - will now move on to the walker platform and legs.



Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/14 10:48:30


Post by: anticitizen013


Coming along quite nicely. I think if you add enough details with GS to completely cover the milliput, it should look excellent. The problem (well not really problem) with Nurgle things, I find, is they have so many diseases if there's any flat/blank spot it almost looks as though its missing something (some exceptions apply, of course). I look forward to seeing more progress!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/14 11:19:31


Post by: P4NC4K3


*Vomits profusely* Nice work


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/14 11:41:58


Post by: littlewood93


Looking good it's really starting to take shape.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/14 12:51:40


Post by: typhus


i cant wait to see what you do with the legs


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/14 15:20:58


Post by: tallmantim


Cheers

I took your suggestion and added some more contagion to him - additional pustules, a demonic face, torn flesh and exposed ribs.



Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/14 15:22:29


Post by: tallmantim


Oh yeah - and you can see I've started work on a concept for the base of the walker.

Cheers


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/14 15:48:53


Post by: typhus


need some shots of his face


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/14 15:56:18


Post by: Golden Eyed Scout


Sweet.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/14 17:35:15


Post by: anticitizen013


Definitely coming along nurgly (see what I did there? )

IMO it still needs more disease, but it's not finished yet so you have time, hehe. The spine thing looks a bit too robotic, which sorta gave me the idea (to give you) to make it so that spine is in fact robotic and a bit that connects the daemon to the legs.

Sorry if that's a poor description as to what I'm thinking, but I haven't slept in many hours... *passes out*


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 03:56:58


Post by: Comrade Amadayeus


it's definately interesting and not bad for a "GS novice" as you so call yourself. But personally i would try to make him more menacing, he kind of looks like he is trying to hug me.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 04:21:40


Post by: KingCracker


I dig it! Ive always liked it better when people say screw buying the real deal Ill make one. Nice so far


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 04:25:36


Post by: Dashofpepper


Cool project man! Keep up the good work!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 04:46:18


Post by: tallmantim


it's definately interesting and not bad for a "GS novice" as you so call yourself.


Thanks - second time I'm using green stuff - first time was for a couple of tiny bits on my scratch deff dread. That effort was abysmal as far as effect went and decided not to do any more.

I watched a couple of youtubes and listened to some advice on here and picked up a couple of things that make it much easier:

1. Use vaseline. I rub a bit onto my fingers (very lightly) when I start on it, that was it doesn't stick to me.

2. Get some tools - I bought a three tool set from my FLGS which is plenty.

3. Something I picked up myself - smear some vaseline thinly on paper and use this as your work area. You can rub a flat part on the paper to make it nice and smooth, and work on flat parts cutting them up etc on there and you can lift them back off. Just need to be careful that you will be able to stick it to the model later.

4. Overlaying. As you can see from my first GS effort on this thread, I put some final details on there as my first pieces. These should have been done last after I had completed all the other stuff. Additionally, it's cool to layer detail, such as the rib cage with torn flesh above (IMO anyway) - work out what you want to do and plan the moves required. This piece has been a bit chaotic as I've been learning as I go along.

Cheers


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 12:27:02


Post by: tallmantim


Anticitizen

Thanks for the constructive advice.

Went through and ripped off the spine part and replaced it as below (as well as adding a lot more detail):





Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 12:33:29


Post by: tallmantim


Typhus

Here is the pic of the face as it stands:



Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 13:13:52


Post by: anticitizen013


That spine now looks freakin awesome. That's exactly what I was getting at! Also I noticed more details on his back which also looks very gross (in a good way, of course).

The tongue looks good so far, but personally I dont like his nose and mouth. I'm thinking instead of a giant nose, perhaps make it slits like a snake (a solid example of this is a picture of my good friend Lucius the Eternal in the Chaos Codex). Perhaps even make his mouth like the Lucius picture as well? I know teeth are very hard to do, but you seem to have been able to grasp the concept of GS quite well so it shouldnt be too much of a problem. His eyes, while both are well done individually, look sorta off place (which may be what you were going for). If you dont want to change his eyes, I noticed a bit of a burst pustule on the top of his head, you could add another eye in there and then his mis-matched face would look even more daemonically delicious. My final bit of criticism on his head is that the shape is too round, and doesn't really fit with the whole amorphous blob feeling that Nurgle things have. For more ideas, I'd suggest checking out the old and new GUO heads, as well as the FW one.

So yeah those are just my own little quirks, but to be perfectly honest it is very good how it stands. I'm especially impressed with the spine (and pleased you used that idea!) Use those ideas if you like... just be sure to take more pictures! Awesome work, keep it up. Can't wait to see more!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 13:31:50


Post by: tallmantim


Thanks Anticitizen

Great to get some solid feedback.

I'm thinking of ditching the nose as yeah - it didn't look quite right. The face sort of reminds of an owl bear for anyone who has played D&D.

Thinking maybe if I ditched the nose, put in some slits like a skull or snake and added another eyeball just above. And yes - I wanted the eyes off kilter to try and make him uglier (symetry is one of the hallmarks of beauty).

Now, onto the walker...

Keen on feedback for this, mocked up a leg:



The platform I am using is round with 6 legs spread out radially (so no front or back to the base). LOL - in hindsight I should have made it 7!

This is just a mock up glued together - does the idea look sound? Two claws on each leg would be holding it up. I also need it to be reasonably robust, as the beasty on top is getting quite heavy now!

Thanks for your help everyone - much appreciated.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 14:01:53


Post by: anticitizen013


Now that you mentioned having 7 legs, you clearly have to do it, haha. If you look at the most glorious Chaos Star, it obviously has 8 points. If you remove the front/top point you will be left with 7 (durrr) and you'll have a perfect spot for enemies to get eaten. Behold my mad photoshop skillz for the legs:



I don't know if you'll like that idea, but at least it will have 7 legs! (and in turn plenty of support)


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 16:58:04


Post by: Emrab


All Im gonna say is I can wait to see it finished.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 20:52:34


Post by: (´,,,´)


actually i would have liked that bosy wich had only hotglue, it would have been something very unique, ofcourse it would have needed some GS


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 21:57:12


Post by: aunshova


Harlequin Baby!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/15 23:13:45


Post by: FearPeteySodes


Cool so far, gotta second the losing the nose bit though.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 00:50:49


Post by: tallmantim


anticitizen013 wrote:Now that you mentioned having 7 legs, you clearly have to do it, haha. If you look at the most glorious Chaos Star, it obviously has 8 points. If you remove the front/top point you will be left with 7 (durrr) and you'll have a perfect spot for enemies to get eaten. Behold my mad photoshop skillz for the legs:

I don't know if you'll like that idea, but at least it will have 7 legs! (and in turn plenty of support)


Thanks AC,

I think I will go through and create a 7 legged walker, although I'm thinking that I'll make it with 7 legs spread around it.

This is because I like the idea of the engine part not having a facing as such, 7 legs for Nurgle and to provide stability (as I said, it's getting heavy!)

Cheers for the effort.

aunshova wrote:Harlequin Baby!


???

(´,,,´) wrote:actually i would have liked that bosy wich had only hotglue, it would have been something very unique, ofcourse it would have needed some GS


Well, he's got a soul of hot glue at least!

;-)

FearPeteySodes wrote:Cool so far, gotta second the losing the nose bit though.


Yeah - beaky is going to go if I get time tonight.

Thinking of maybe like a skull's nose with skin rotted away from it:



Any opinions on the shape of the leg (I know that it's a poor photo, but have tried to adjust it enough that you can see the concept).



Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 01:02:10


Post by: sev07


Well to start off with i thought you were crazy and it looked gak.

But i didnt realise you were so good at modellin and now it's startin to look fukin awesome.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 01:06:18


Post by: sev07


By the way the nose idea wud b good aswell.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 01:17:34


Post by: Budda 09


i agree with sev, at first i thort you wer mad, but you really have a special talent with modelling n this soulgrinder is starting to look freaking awesome, i look forward to seeing some more


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 02:03:11


Post by: anticitizen013


I can just imagine this beastly monstrosity clunking across the battlefield vomiting on everything. Which gave me another idea... once you do create the legs (more on my 'vision' in a second ) you should have them dripping with pus/ooze. Practise making tendrils of goo with the glue gun for a disgusting effect (once you get a droplet, blow on it so it cools as such).

So, for the legs, your idea thus far is spot on, but I think the 'knees' should rise above the central hub of legs. That will give it a spindly yet creepy look to it. The alternative is obviously to make them beefy and monstrous, both would look awesome, IMO.

If you "skull-erize" the face as you suggested, I think that will look a lot better


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 03:15:15


Post by: tallmantim


sev07 wrote:By the way the nose idea wud b good aswell.


Cheers Sev - yep - will lose the beaky nose...

Budda 09 wrote:i agree with sev, at first i thort you wer mad, but you really have a special talent with modelling n this soulgrinder is starting to look freaking awesome, i look forward to seeing some more


Thanks - this is a good project to learn GS technique on as you can be gross without being exact.

anticitizen013 wrote:I can just imagine this beastly monstrosity clunking across the battlefield vomiting on everything. Which gave me another idea... once you do create the legs (more on my 'vision' in a second ) you should have them dripping with pus/ooze. Practise making tendrils of goo with the glue gun for a disgusting effect (once you get a droplet, blow on it so it cools as such).

So, for the legs, your idea thus far is spot on, but I think the 'knees' should rise above the central hub of legs. That will give it a spindly yet creepy look to it. The alternative is obviously to make them beefy and monstrous, both would look awesome, IMO.

If you "skull-erize" the face as you suggested, I think that will look a lot better


I like the idea of the spindly legs coming above - would give it a 7 legged arachnid sort of feel.

Thoughts on this sort of look?



The body looking at it again would probably be a little smaller than this view comparatively - but this sort of idea.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 04:09:18


Post by: anticitizen013


That looks pretty solid for sure. That pic is a good representation of how it will look. I like how the legs have 2 points of connection instead of just 1. Diseased robo arachnids are cool... hah.

Keep it up, man, I'm getting antsy, I want to see more (and I'm sure everyone else does too).


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 11:05:02


Post by: goffnob deffsmakka


I think I'm going to puke!

Which is good because its nurgle, All hail father nurgle!













Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 11:15:50


Post by: Budda 09


once again, i cant wait to see this finished model, i would be shaking in my boots if i saw this diseased arachnid clonking towards me on a battlefield


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 12:45:35


Post by: tallmantim


OK - it's time for Face Off!



OK - removed the ears, tongue, mouth and nose.



Then drilled in a little where the nose and third eye goes:



Then built it back up again, including adding a much better set of jowls (will probably add another layer with the mouth when it's dried tomorrow).



Also, added some tendons/muscles to the claw:



Thanks for all the feedback guys. As you can see, quite happy to take onboard constructive ideas or advice! Keep it coming.

Cheers

Tim


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 13:48:54


Post by: Budda 09


Looking much better than last time, you certainly have a thing with green stuff, all i can do is little poor blob things


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 19:14:34


Post by: anticitizen013


Awesome man!

I was actually going to mention that it's nice that someone is using the ideas the community is presenting, and not just dismissing them (which I suppose is perfectly fine too ). Can't wait to see the face/mouth/thing take shape. Nice other eye

Have you thought of a colour scheme for him yet? There's a picture of a model I converted in my gallery (link in a second), and I think that sort of eye colour would look good with whatever grossness you select for the rest of the body. I used browns, yellows and greens, all stemming from a central point which then turned into a single black dot for the pupil.



Make sure to gloss varnish some bits of it for added effect!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 21:42:19


Post by: aunshova


God that third picture down of the face is horrifying, in a kind of nurgly good way. Again, harlequin baby. Goggle it at your own risk. I dare not provide links.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 21:52:43


Post by: Corpsesarefun


aunshova i hate you, i just googled harlequin baby and now im scarred for life. thanks alot


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 21:59:18


Post by: aunshova


Hello and welcome to the internet, enjoy your stay.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/16 22:31:58


Post by: tallmantim


anticitizen013 wrote:Awesome man!

I was actually going to mention that it's nice that someone is using the ideas the community is presenting, and not just dismissing them (which I suppose is perfectly fine too ). Can't wait to see the face/mouth/thing take shape. Nice other eye

Have you thought of a colour scheme for him yet? There's a picture of a model I converted in my gallery (link in a second), and I think that sort of eye colour would look good with whatever grossness you select for the rest of the body. I used browns, yellows and greens, all stemming from a central point which then turned into a single black dot for the pupil.

Make sure to gloss varnish some bits of it for added effect!


Thanks for that - looks very cool.

I really like that eye. My thoughts right now are to paint the two "normal" eyes as having cataracts and paint the third eye demonically. Was thinking a cats eye or red, but really like the effect of that one.

Looking to create a regular rotting flesh look with black necrosis.

aunshova wrote:God that third picture down of the face is horrifying, in a kind of nurgly good way. Again, harlequin baby. Goggle it at your own risk. I dare not provide links.


OK - at work so looked it up on google images on my phone. Those are some lovely Harelquin Baby Blankets!

corpsesarefun wrote:aunshova i hate you, i just googled harlequin baby and now im scarred for life. thanks alot


More disturbing are the other hits you get for it in Google images - like someone's pic for their myspace page!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 09:28:04


Post by: tallmantim


Hi all

Opinions on this for the mouth?



Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 09:29:16


Post by: tallmantim


And also, although I would model the tongue better than shown here, tongue or no tongue (as the bishop said to the actress...)

Thanks


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 10:00:43


Post by: anticitizen013


If you could make the tongue more dynamic (sorta like flicking out in the air or some such) that would increase its awesomeness by 59%! Do it!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 10:56:09


Post by: Corpsesarefun


the tongue ruins that sculpt for me :(
either dont have a tongue (IMO the best option for that mouth) or have a flicky dynamic tongue.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 11:19:04


Post by: typhus


spawn bits are ur friend


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 11:26:29


Post by: blinky


I'll agree and say that it does not need a tounge, it makes it look to goofy almost. What you have at the moment is great. If you make any change, I think lots of wiry tongues could be cool, with one thicker one of composite tendrils

Also, aunshova, I hate you. At least I went on wikipedia not google images... :O


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 12:09:16


Post by: tallmantim


LOL

Yeah - tried a thin tongue picking his nose and it looked smeg.

So, raided the toothpick holder:



and then added in the teeth, another jowl, gums and detailing.





LOL

The sort of face only a mother could love!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 12:24:50


Post by: Corpsesarefun


disgustingly awesome


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 12:51:23


Post by: enmitee


wow tallmantim, this is great, from the start i was rather doubtful. but now, i must say, this is awesome.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 14:27:22


Post by: Budda 09


much better than the old face, keep it up


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 17:42:58


Post by: mcfly


Holy crap dude, its awesome! I'm so glad you didn't use that giant. It is gonna be the coolest soul grinder ever.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 20:18:56


Post by: anticitizen013


Who needs a tongue when you have teeth? Lookin snazzy!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 20:46:43


Post by: typhus


mouth looks awesome


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/17 23:30:23


Post by: TheBigBadPanda


That is absolutely disgusting in a for nurgle very, very good way. I cant wait to see the finished result!!!


Firts post! Yay!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/18 01:06:20


Post by: Kaile_Bloodhammer


Nice and Nurgley. I think I caught something just from looking at it. wait....



*Vomits in corner*


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/18 14:15:14


Post by: tallmantim


Hi all

Started rework on the base to make it 7 legged.

So, mocked up first in cardboard:



Looks like a Dalek, so cut it down a little:



Then cut the required shape into 1mm plasticard and taped it up with cellotape:



Put in some milliput to hold it steady:



But had to use a protractor for the first time since about 1987:



And also cut out an underside for it:



An unexciting update I know!



Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/18 17:44:01


Post by: anticitizen013


Pro...tractor? What is this infernal device you speak of!?

Methinks the bottom half of the daemon needs to be gross-ified. Other than that, it's coming together very nicely. The face is really especially awesome.

Have you decided on how you want to detail the legs yet?


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/18 17:55:23


Post by: ojk9


Nice - very... Chaos-y


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/18 21:10:54


Post by: tallmantim


anticitizen013 wrote:Pro...tractor? What is this infernal device you speak of!?

Methinks the bottom half of the daemon needs to be gross-ified. Other than that, it's coming together very nicely. The face is really especially awesome.

Have you decided on how you want to detail the legs yet?


Thinking of having some clockwork showing on the underbody and some pistons shoving through into his flesh.

On the legs, thinking of having more sinew and tendons as the actuators for the joints. I'll see how bulky I want the legs when I've got them on there.

Cheers


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/19 17:53:39


Post by: Budda 09


still looking great, i like the ideas for the legs


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/19 18:40:54


Post by: WaaaaghLord


anticitizen013 wrote:Pro...tractor? What is this infernal device you speak of!?


its a tractor for none ameture farmers....

this is looking good so far. will be following closely


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/19 18:46:34


Post by: littlewood93


WOW, this looking great i especially like the spine and face good job keep it up.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/19 18:54:22


Post by: namegoeshere


Urgh! Awesome! Urgh!

Man-tits is a nice touch


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/20 14:39:19


Post by: tallmantim


OK - progressed the walker base - drilled through the milliput and corners, which was actually harder than I thought it would be.

He now looks happy in his home...



Nice and symetrical from the top:


Mock up again of the walker leg - with two claws:




Or a single one?


Not sure about the legs - maybe it should just taper down to a stabbing point... might have a play around.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/20 14:58:47


Post by: mcfly


Awwwww, he looks so happy.
I think that the leg is either a little too long or too skinny.
But otherwise its looking great!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/20 15:02:16


Post by: tallmantim


mcfly wrote:Awwwww, he looks so happy.
I think that the leg is either a little too long or too skinny.
But otherwise its looking great!


Hi - trying to get an arachnid sort of feel to the base with scuttling legs, but haven't really hit on anything yet that really works especially well...

Still thinking...


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/20 15:29:40


Post by: crapconversionist


How about an upturned V shape? By putting the knee/ leg joint higher up and making the soulgrinder lower to the ground kinda giving a more arachnid feel.

Or why not have a large scenic base? and have it cligning to a ruined building or rock or something? A web made of glue on a wire frae might be strange (allthought might not fit in well with the idea of it being a chaos spawny)



Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/22 09:12:18


Post by: tallmantim


Hi all,

OK - full mock up with spider legs:



and top view:



View of a partially detailed leg (still need to GS it if I decide to go on with it):



I think if I go with these legs, I might have to add some strutts to bulk up the leg connections to the walker body...


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/22 12:19:51


Post by: Paul Atreides


It is very impressive really.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/22 12:43:30


Post by: WaaaaghLord


thats ace

was sceptical at first seeing the leg, but you've converted me. hopefully not into a soulgrinder though...


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/22 13:47:39


Post by: anticitizen013


Those legs are really cool. Definitely portrays the arachnid-esque feel. Though they look too long in that picture. Either that or they just have too much of a running leg, if you will (meaning they are very long with no bend). Perhaps if you broke the leg up into 3 sections instead of 2, that would help, IMO.

It might also just be the angle... or I could be dreaming


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/22 13:57:40


Post by: Corpsesarefun


his legs are way too long... he couldnt reach anything with his claw :(


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/22 19:34:22


Post by: Budda 09


the legs look really (arachnidy? :S) still looking fab


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/24 07:43:44


Post by: tallmantim


OK worked a little more on this, creating some gubbins to go underneath:



Here is a scale shot for how it looks for scale right now:



Note - this will be used in-game, however I am attempting to make it look cool first and match the current soul grinder a distant second. It has greater line of sight than the regular one, however deepstriking and getting cover will be more of a problem.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/24 12:50:37


Post by: tallmantim


Having a muck around creating the 7 faces of pestilence that will be around the strut housings:



Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/24 13:17:42


Post by: Budda 09


awesome


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/24 16:42:31


Post by: Spiff


Holy Schnikies! It's Mojo from the X-Men comics. (...after going on a diet)


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/24 16:52:15


Post by: Ifalna


I can't believe how much this has come together in such a short time, seriously, wow.

The only thing I can think of adding to up the gross factor is a larger intestinal spill along the front, maybe a nice rip from the uppser side down. You could leave some of the guts trailing onto the walker.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/25 03:51:35


Post by: KingCracker


I think this project is REALLY going nicely. It looks a TAD tasll but hey thats something you can deal wiith when killing things.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/25 04:05:49


Post by: tallmantim


Thanks for the comments all...

tasll


???


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/26 14:06:44


Post by: tallmantim


OK - made another couple of faces of pestilence - I'm thinking of painting these brass with verdigris when it comes to painting.

Also added some tendons to the legs, and mocked up an exhaust stack from the centre of the panel - one would be on each panel.





Found that boiling water is effective for the removal of surface hot glue - looking to create the legs as clear metal with tendons and perhaps the occasional boil rather than slime covered.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/26 19:03:59


Post by: anticitizen013


Those faces are a good idea... I'm rather fond of them.

I just started my Defiler and so far I've got the upper jaw almost complete... but fitting it all together is going to be a pain in the ass... bleh!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/26 20:37:32


Post by: fatal_GRACE


This looks amazing. I can't wait to see how it turns out! I'll be watching this thread very closely from now on.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/27 05:09:50


Post by: greenskin lynn


i've really enjoyed watching this come together, adn can't wait to see it finished


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/28 09:29:16


Post by: tallmantim


Hi all,

Finished the 7 faces of pestilence...

Doc



Sneezy



Bashful



Happy



Sleepy



Grumpy



Dopey





Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/02/28 09:38:45


Post by: Nailz94


that looks very cool.
with the level of ur conversion skills thats gonna turn out great!

Nailz94


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/01 09:08:44


Post by: Savnock


Wowowow. The 7 faces of Pestilence take it to a whole new level.

Something that intricately converted (and that much bigger than an ordinary Grinder) deserves a special datasheet when played in Apoc. Or just use it as a Stompa.

This has come so far. Awesome.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/01 13:18:18


Post by: tallmantim


Hi

Had some thoughts about creating infested casualties as Nurgle bases.

Had a play around tonight at making a nurgling and setting up a marine...





Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/01 22:10:43


Post by: Excommunicate Traitoris


this is looking very cool. Can't wait to see the finished product


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/01 22:58:49


Post by: Budda 09


awesome


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/04 13:58:43


Post by: tallmantim


Some more Nurglings...







Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/04 16:09:53


Post by: The Thousandth Son


This'll look really cool when it's done.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/05 00:14:35


Post by: Aqualung


I have to say this is pretty wicked, from the onset I was wary, but this is really turning out very nice! I, like many others, am looking forward to seeing the final product.


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/05 12:48:21


Post by: tallmantim


FYI, I used a template/mold to make the faces all roughly the same size and shape and then added separate detail for each, so it was quite quick to create the faces:



Now have the Nurgling base ready for undercoating:



Decided on just 3 and trying out a swamp base look for a nurgle army - see how it comes out!

Cheers


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/05 13:00:26


Post by: phillpowell


should look cool. water effects works great with the washes mixed in....also once you have mat sealed the base you can go over the 'swamp' with a gloss ard coat to make it shiny and slimey

phill


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/05 13:15:49


Post by: tallmantim


I'm thinking of red scorpians as the basis for "hosting" my Nurgle army - I think the red would work well with it...

Thoughts?


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/05 13:23:39


Post by: Budda 09


awesome!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/05 13:27:18


Post by: sev07


IT WOULD BE CRAP COS RED SCORPIONS ARE ACTUALLY BLACK AND YELLOW. I KNOW I COLLECT THEM!!

Use Ultramarines Instead!!


Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/12 12:47:24


Post by: tallmantim


OK - time for an update on the Soul Grinder!

Have nearly completed the build...

Mounted in the grinder - note have added horns to the top of the legs, girders underneath and connection points to help with the monster/machine view:


An imperial guardsman's eye view just before death:


Overhead:


The gubbins underneath - note the waste exhausts and a magnet mounting for a future upgrade weapon:


Still left to do:

  • Milliput into the inside of the machine to join together the two pieces better.

  • Put some cogs inside the back of the unit.

  • Greenstuff up the connection points


  • That will pretty much see it finished - then onto painting!


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/12 21:16:27


    Post by: Budda 09


    still looking great!


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/12 22:30:07


    Post by: pcon426


    pretty good


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/14 15:46:19


    Post by: tallmantim


    OK - test paint tonight of a plague bearer to try out what I'm going to do on the Soul Grinder now it is ready for paint...





    Thoughts? I think this could look good on a large monster, but happy to take advice.

    Also started work on the nurgling base - decided to use Blood Angels as my Nurgle "seed" army:



    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/14 21:41:11


    Post by: namegoeshere


    I'm sort of used to it in green now...
    Keep up the good work


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/15 13:49:00


    Post by: tallmantim


    Started painting the beast in earnest now...

    Base coats:





    And the current look after some washes etc:





    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/15 14:47:00


    Post by: typhus


    very eh pink?


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/15 14:51:36


    Post by: namegoeshere


    The top half is good.
    But the bottom half looks unfinished/ lacking details.
    Sorry it is really awesome otherwise though


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/15 20:52:19


    Post by: tallmantim


    typhus wrote:very eh pink?




    Not quite so pink in person - purple washes over light green.

    namegoeshere wrote:The top half is good.
    But the bottom half looks unfinished/ lacking details.
    Sorry it is really awesome otherwise though


    LOL - I have only done a couple of sections of the bottom half - it is a large model to do it all at once!



    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/15 22:28:10


    Post by: Budda 09


    looking good, used to it being green now


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/16 04:01:59


    Post by: Lord Kaesar II


    rather creepy, but also rather awesome. good thing you're going for a nurgle grinder XP


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/16 04:18:50


    Post by: tallmantim


    @Budda_09 - Cheers; I plan to add a green ink wash to it tonight (following a white glaze) as well as some brown - so should tone down the pinkness a little, although it's not as pink as it looks here in person.

    @Lord Kaesar II - LOL - originally when I was making it my daughter asked if she could take it to show and tell (she's 9). We have since agreed that it is not appropriate for a grade 4 class - which means it must be on the right track for Papa Nurgle!



    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/16 05:54:12


    Post by: DarkHound


    How did you get that rusted copper-ish effect on the faces on the bottom half? I've been trying to learn that for a good week now.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/16 07:28:15


    Post by: goffnob deffsmakka


    Love it!
    When do you think you are going to be finished with painting?


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/16 09:03:56


    Post by: tallmantim


    DarkHound wrote:How did you get that rusted copper-ish effect on the faces on the bottom half? I've been trying to learn that for a good week now.


    Hey - Tin bitz base over black. Heavy wash with hawk turquoise lighted up. Heavy drybrush of tin bitz over the top, lighter drybrush of brazen brass, final drybrush across the top side of shining gold.

    goffnob deffsmakka wrote:Love it!
    When do you think you are going to be finished with painting?


    Probably finish it by the end of the weekend.

    Thanks for the comments - always good to get feedback to keep you motivated!


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/16 10:30:48


    Post by: PanzerSmurf


    That thing is sooo sick looking... Great job!


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/16 13:37:37


    Post by: tallmantim


    My again...

    Getting the top body done...





    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/16 13:43:57


    Post by: - Human


    Whoah! That's a very creepy and unique looking model. It'll looks great in a nurgle army. That weird CC weapon looks pretty badass.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/17 14:13:09


    Post by: tallmantim


    Thanks Human...

    Updated - base coat on legs, upper body nearly finished although the photos made the colour completely wrong - must be from photographing on a black background? (yes, that is black marble, not brown!)

    Updated cannon, vein lines



    Base colour for legs:



    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/17 15:00:38


    Post by: jammy


    can i just say i love wat you have done so far but the legs just doesnt look right.
    it might be because there to long .. i dunno they just dont look right

    but anyway love it so far


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/17 15:41:27


    Post by: mcfly


    Looking pretty freaky, like a Nurgle should. This is an extraordinary model!


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/17 18:04:29


    Post by: namegoeshere


    The lower part looks like it needs more building, it's too simple at the moment.
    Grey and Red is an awesome zombie color scheme


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/17 21:54:19


    Post by: fatal_GRACE


    It looks fantastic so far. I look forward to seeing the finished product.

    I envy your use of brazen brass. Now that GW has discontinued the color, I am having a helluva time finding an alternative.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/17 22:33:04


    Post by: tallmantim


    jammy wrote:can i just say i love wat you have done so far but the legs just doesnt look right.
    it might be because there to long .. i dunno they just dont look right

    but anyway love it so far

    namegoeshere wrote:The lower part looks like it needs more building, it's too simple at the moment.
    Grey and Red is an awesome zombie color scheme


    The lower part will have more depth when I do the aging/weathering and the sides will have some insignia from the daemon-looted Blood Angels rhino it comes from.

    Too late for any changes though! LOL - you have to move on at some time and just finish it, otherwise you could tweak and rebuild forever.

    mcfly wrote:Looking pretty freaky, like a Nurgle should. This is an extraordinary model!


    Thanks! I can feel the guiding hand of Papa Nurgle at times...

    fatal_GRACE wrote:It looks fantastic so far. I look forward to seeing the finished product.

    I envy your use of brazen brass. Now that GW has discontinued the color, I am having a helluva time finding an alternative.


    Have you considered the Valego paints? They are apparently very good and match the Citadel options. I got this one from ebay and it's obviously old stock as it is quite dry inside.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/19 14:13:56


    Post by: tallmantim


    Working on the legs now:



    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/19 16:33:08


    Post by: fatal_GRACE


    tallmantim wrote:

    Have you considered the Valego paints? They are apparently very good and match the Citadel options. I got this one from ebay and it's obviously old stock as it is quite dry inside.


    Yes, I have. I try to avoid buying paints online, though, and none of the FLGS around here stock Vallejo. I'm still looking around, though.

    Also, that leg is looking great. It feels a little too clean, though. If you weren't already going to, you should dirty it up with washes/what-have-you.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/21 06:37:53


    Post by: tallmantim


    Weathering on the panels:

    New camera today to play around with, so with high ISO without a flash



    And with a flash...





    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/03/21 10:03:20


    Post by: goffnob deffsmakka


    Looks good


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/04/02 13:42:17


    Post by: tallmantim


    Close to getting painting done now and it is now one part...






    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/04/02 13:58:49


    Post by: jackinthetank


    Looks pretty good now.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/04/02 14:42:00


    Post by: blessed be thy emperor


    It Looks Good, just maybe do something more with the legs, Looks a little Nid Like to me.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/04/02 16:32:55


    Post by: mcfly


    It looks really good, but im suprised the legs can even hold it up. The things a beast!


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/04/02 21:30:12


    Post by: anticitizen013


    I go away to the desert and come back to see this thing painted. Outstanding work my friend! Looks positively disgusting. Excellent choice of colours on the skin too. I'm highly impressed


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/05/10 08:09:19


    Post by: tallmantim


    Thanks guys

    Did the finishing touches to it today - added matt coat, glossed the fleshy/mucousy bits etc.

    Shown here with a plaguebearer for scale...







    And completed the base for my plaguebearer too...

    Happy with the swampy water effect.





    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/05/10 08:29:01


    Post by: Lord Kaesar II


    Eww.... Your big Nurgle machine is very sufficiently gross, especially with that snot cannon (hey, that's what it looks like to me). Keep up the .... "good" work


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/05/10 11:57:14


    Post by: tallmantim


    blessed be thy emperor wrote:It Looks Good, just maybe do something more with the legs, Looks a little Nid Like to me.


    Hi - I wanted it to be different to the current grinder - more sort of arachnid in the leg department so Nid like is OK to me.

    mcfly wrote:It looks really good, but im suprised the legs can even hold it up. The things a beast!


    I ran a core of wire throught the legs, so it actually is a very stable and sturdy piece. I would not like to drop it from table height, but will stand up to normal use fine.

    anticitizen013 wrote:I go away to the desert and come back to see this thing painted. Outstanding work my friend! Looks positively disgusting. Excellent choice of colours on the skin too. I'm highly impressed


    Thanks AC

    And also thankyou for your advice and assistance early - helped set the course for this...

    Lord Kaesar II wrote:Eww.... Your big Nurgle machine is very sufficiently gross, especially with that snot cannon (hey, that's what it looks like to me). Keep up the .... "good" work


    Cheers - I like the idea of a snot cannon for nurgle rather than a simple "harvester" cannon...

    Thanks for the feedback guys.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/05/10 23:59:31


    Post by: Wrexasaur


    Great thread. Your model really matured, and I enjoyed watching it grow.

    I do agree that the legs clash with the rest of the model. The quickest way to change it would be making the whole thing shorter.
    Seeing it's height in the picture next to the dread, I have to say that is HUGE. It looks like it's near titan size, most definitely bigger
    than a wraithlord (or carnifex). I actually preferred the model when it was still pink, I think the bluish-gray almost looks like it's punching
    the bronze faces. The faces were my favorite touch besides the final teeth you cam up with. I was hoping to see a screaming
    mutant rabbit like face, with more of an open mouth, now it's along the lines of a mutant spider-mole thing.

    Continuing the bronze theme from the faces to the legs would pull the whole model together. Highlighting crevices (on the legs) with a bronze-green will
    help balance the overall tone of the model. The whole base looks like a drybrush layer or two would pull all the colors together.



    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/05/24 09:27:00


    Post by: tallmantim


    Finished my custom nurgling base...







    The idea was that the marine had been struck down by a plague sword, killed him by infestation which then sprouted nurglings from the corpse.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/05/24 11:19:54


    Post by: Kanii


    Thats looks awesome, love the one in the helmet


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/05/24 11:22:24


    Post by: Cheese Elemental


    Nice. It's almost as good as the Slaaneshi Soulgrinder with a huge stark erection.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/05/24 11:23:18


    Post by: Ifalna


    Those nurglings are fantastic, cute in an absolutely repuslive way, haha!

    Looks amazing so far


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/05/25 09:23:41


    Post by: tallmantim


    Thanks for the feedback guys...

    Much appreciated...


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/06/04 06:29:38


    Post by: deadly chicken


    looks like my sister, on a good day!


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/06/04 09:25:23


    Post by: Goodge


    can i make a suggestion? maybe make some nurgly looking leg armour plates for the Legs? just a suggestion...

    the nurgles on the space marine is classic.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/06/06 12:40:31


    Post by: oggers


    Nurglings look quite cute.........in a disturbing way.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/06/18 12:26:12


    Post by: blood_pact


    Nice sculpting



    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/06/18 17:31:54


    Post by: Corpsesarefun


    This reaaally needs to be moved to the P&M forum i only just noticed its in the wrong place.


    Scratch/custom soul grinder - Nurgle army WIP @ 2009/06/19 02:03:45


    Post by: tallmantim


    I sent through a request for it to go to the P&M blog area but it ended up here...

    <shrugs>