One of my favorite game intros is the Dawn of War intro movie where it shows Orks and Space Marines facing off...if you haven't seen it, you can find it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFkFo5SBx-g

Where are the plans for a 40k movie? We've got two games, several expansions, a tabletop hobby game, a fantasy MMO...where's the Warhammer 40k movie?

I went to see 1.5 hours of almost nonstop fighting, interspersed with cliches and Imperium mantras. A lot of the Warhammer 40k books offer a decent plot / story / etc, it couldn't be that hard to make a movie with a good story. Hell, the story behind Dawn of War would make a good movie.

Whatcha folks think?

//Discuss

Dashofpepper wrote:
I went to see 1.5 hours of almost nonstop fighting...

Ah, the famous hour and half of brain death. Movies come in pre-cut, pre-assembled, pre-painted deals. There is no imagination in Hollywood anymore. How could you possibly tell a great visual story in 90 minutes? Look at the LotR movies, The Dark Night, etc. etc. Are they 90 minutes? No.

If a Warhammer 40k movies was to be made, they would need to be around 2.5 hours long and be atleast a triology. However, that is why it will never be made [or atleast made, staying true to the epic-ness of 40k].

I would love to see it, but only if it got made the proper way.

And I swear if Uwe Boll ever makes it, I will move to another country.

I agree with Overboss,I think they won't stay true to the original fluff and if it is based on the dawn of war games IT MUST!!!,be the first game as the other two where *@$%*&&!!!!

Heres the thing, in order for there to be a movie made 40k will have to reach a high level of popularity. This IS possible, but alas tabletop gaming is too much of a niche hobby to ever reach the masses. But I am quite optomistic, games like dawn of war 2 have given 40k alot more exposure to the general public, I actually am hearing rumors of a 40k MMO....which would be...insane to say the least. But if you look on the videogame forums there are still alot of people who think world of warcraft was the inspiration that created dawn of war, where we all know its the opposite, so people still are not familiar with our beloved 40k universe. Slowly but surely hardcore gamers will learn and come to appreciate the fluff aspect of 40k...ive seen it happen on the ign.com forums already, people are really curious to understand what 40k is all about, which is great! So i guess it could be the first step to more 40k products that are offered to the masses, which who knows could one day lead to a movie...maybe....

For the non believers, just look at harry potter....i Know thats an extreme example, but the same could happen here.

- a hopefull fluff nut

I'm ok with 2.5 hours+. I just want to see a movie full of Imperium cliches.

Scene:

Inquisitor Harkim looked down at the trembling man and rumbled forth his verdict: "Thought begets heresy. Embrace death now cleansed by the flame of the emperor!" Inquisitor Harkim fires his boltgun into the doomed man, and looks up to see many pairs of narrowed and bloodshot eyes peering angrily at him from the advancing shadows.

Harkim unshouldered his Thunderhammer while drawing an arcane symbol in the air before him. "Come then, chaos filth! For I shall know no fear and shall grant you the compassion of the Imperium!"

Etc etc, fight fight fight...

It would be great to see the Sabbot crusades done on the big screen. Wasn't there talk about a 40K movie about ten years back? What ever happened to that?

warhammer would become a fad if a movie was made so no

The only way 40k would get a lot more exposure, especially with the fluff is for people to play the game more. The only problem with that is that people who don't have a lot of disposable income can't really get into playing.

For example, I am someone who can barely afford to have any money left over from paycheck to paycheck to spend as I see fit. The majority of my army came from the Orks in the AoBR set. That's why I have 70 or so Boyz that haven't been painted yet.

Judging from the fan base from Warhammer Online + DoW2 , its impossible for GW to rake in enough funds to make any decent movie.

Even starcraft will get better chance of a movie.

I wouldn't mind a Starcraft movie either, but it would have to follow the same guidelines that I said about the 40k movie

I don't think that you need huge amounts of disposable income to get into Warhammer. I participate in whatever tournaments that I can; RTTs and such. I tend to do pretty good, so I supplement my army with store credit.

I played in an RTT today and took first place and ended up with $70 of store credit. That got two boxes of stormboyz and another box of boyz.

It simply can't be done, it would be the most brutal movie ever and it would take ages to make (if they wanted to make it good anyhow). It'd simply be too metal for human eyes.

too brutal for human eyes?

Dude, if I got to see orks and space marines chop each other into bits for a few hours in a cinematic venue, I'd get freakin' optical implants if I had to!

Would you want it to be film, cartoon, CGI, etc, what? I'm assuming actors. In which case, could be a good chance to kill off a few... bad actors.

That's all I'm saying.

I believe it had been optioned, but that was a rumor. Honestly I can't believe that GW would ever let their IP get raped by the likes of Uwe Boll.

If they ever made a 40k movie, I wouldn't accept anything less then rated R. Cause if it wasn't restricted then theirs not nearly enough violence and gore... thus instantly crappy movie.

Not a cartoon or CGI (although I could live with well done CGI I suppose), but actors and a film. Maybe with Peter Jackson doing a collaboration with whomever did 300 to bring us a fantastic movie full of blood and gore. =p

I see no viable possibility of a 40K movie, in the current climate.

9.00am, Paramount Studios Executive Offices...

The Pitch:

"OK, right, there are these fanatical warriors who kill without mercy and have no fear of death, driven by raging hatred of all those they deem unbelievers. Determined to annihilate all opposition at any cost, they -"

"Thanks for your time, gentlemen. Security will see you out."

Back in the late 90's early 00' GW was working with a CGI film company on a CG movie based on that Blood Angels comic book. I followed its progress for awhile as they released clips of CGI space ships, dreads, and so on. But I kinda of lost track. To bad they never finished it.

I can't see any reason why they can't make a 40K film, it would easy to base it around the Imperial Guard to make sure that the general masses who are not familiar with 40K can understand and enjoy it. Joe Bloggs would not have any interest in seeing Kroot lead a victory against Char IV for example, only a 40K player would.

It would only then be a matter of adding Marines and other races into the story line to include a diverse plot with each army getting some limelight. Just look at lord of the rings for examples on how it could be done with mixed races allying with each other on both side, elder and Men, orcs an goblins.

The only issue is that the film would therefore be bias to every 40K player that doesn't collect Imperial Guard as the IG will be made to look the hero's. If the film was made with Tau as the lead charactors for example then it would be highly unlikely to get the same interest from the general masses. In short they'd have to make 9 or so films so that each army gets some glory and i REALLY don't see that happening lol

I can't imagine a 40k film having Tau centerpiece.

I'd think Space Marines would be centerpoint, and they'd be standing against Orks. Maybe Orks invading a world that the IG is trying to fight them back while the Space Marines step in to help. Heck, take Dawn of War and turn it into a movie - all the races get introduced (the important ones anyway =p )

I think if you start introducing too many armies, it's all going to be storyline about politics and being allies - not enough focus on war.

You can't just have 1.5 hours of mindless action... that would get so damn boring so fast. It would be like eating an entire container of cake icing... :p

A proper movie would need actual character development and honestly... only the Imperial Guard and possibly Space Marines are going to be able to fit this bill as well as have the audience identify with them.

the first movie would have to do alot. it would have to introduce all the races, xplain the dark age of technology, the horus heresy, chaos , and a ton of the Imperium's history. id have to say it would have to star a space marine chapter(if its blood ravens ill kill myself because they arent a real chapter). and they would prolly have to fight chaos, nids, or maybe orks to draw in an audience whos never ever heard of Warhammer 40k

id love to see the movie based on the IG because nothing says Imperium of Man like millions of guardsmen charging across no-mans-land and shoving their bayonets into the cultists skulking in the opposite tenches, while hundreds of Leman Russ and Basilisks give them covering fire and a titan squashes a bunker by stepping on it and then mowing down the rest with is Vulcan bolter thingy. But nothing will seems as badass to stupid non-players as a SM's killing xenos while taking an obscene amount of damage and not loosing a single man. lol you can tell im a bitter IG player

hopefull, it would bring in many more gamers and dakkaites. the more the merrier.

Dashofpepper wrote:I can't imagine a 40k film having Tau centerpiece.

I'd think Space Marines would be centerpoint, and they'd be standing against Orks. Maybe Orks invading a world that the IG is trying to fight them back while the Space Marines step in to help. Heck, take Dawn of War and turn it into a movie - all the races get introduced (the important ones anyway =p )

Maybe but if it was Impy Guard vs Tau with the Tau being Space Communists essentially it would have made alot of money in the 80's thanks to the cold war and be lauded as a great example of the then current super power relations

But its a shame it would never be done, if it did i've always thought that a trilogy explaining the Horus Heresy would fit the bill nicely, say having told through the eyes of a Farseer, 1st film would be the Battle of Isstvaan 3 when everyone turned traitor, 2nd battle for Isstvan 5 and the imperium being torn apart, 3rd movie the battle for terra. Simple enough, or in fact basing it around the Gaunts Ghosts novels, I mean the books are essentially Sharpe in space, and I think they would crossover into a movie format quite well.

Man, I need to go read the novels or something - I don't know any of this background that you're talking about.

I think it could be successful too; I'd like to see a cross between Dune + Transformers + 300. That would be a heck of a 40k movie.

I say the movie would have to be based around the Horus Heresy, cause that's like the background of the whole universe.

REAPER666 wrote:hopefull, it would bring in many more gamers and dakkaites. the more the merrier.

No, a 40K movie would bring in a lot of idiots who come to Dakka and say "Hi I like 40K" and we'll say "Great! What armies do you play?" and they'll say "WTF? I thought this was a movie discussion thingy?"

Oh and if you want a plot, take IG and 'Nids and rip off Starship Troopers

You can probably tell I am against this movie idea

Ok, since were all tossing ideas around,this is how I see a viable 40k movie (well actuly a triology) being made,and of course each film would have to run at least 2.5 hours.

First film: intro -set in pre-heresy time with the emporer still "alive",this would avoid the need to distigush between CSM & SM to joe public, 3 main armies in the film would be IG, SM and Orkz.
Basicly this would be the film to introduce the public to the "general ideas" behind 40K,fight fight,Dogma of the Imperium,fight fight.
Also in this film (insert appropiate actor here) as Horus would begin to "hear the wispers of chaos".

Second film: The Heresy..title self explanitory, this film would primarily focus on SM & CSM with some IG tossed in (but of course as Chaos rages across the Galaxy most 40k races could get a bit of screen time).
This film could end with A: The opening salvos of the traitors assualt on Terra,thus making the third film a "wraps it up" movie with the final battle between Hourus and the Emporer etc. or B: With the Emporers interment to the Golden Throne,wich would bring us to.

Third film: There is only war...sort of a catch all (and possibly the most difficult film to make,however I would see it from a Imperium in shambles,rebuilding "everything looks pretty bleak..but we fight on" point of view)
This film could show some "new threats" to the Imperium (Nidz?),but basicly would have no "happy ending" just a " The Imperium shall live on" bow out....not a real Hollywood ending,but the only fitting one IMO.
Well,thats my 2 cents,now all thats needed is a brilliant script writer to take the ball and run with it...Oh,and to sell the whole idea to the cinematic powers that be
Film ends with

Well, let's see...
Hollywood has ruined:
Spiderman
Batman (until Nolan saved it)
Transformers
GI Joe (about to, not that it was that good to begin with)
Dragonball (about to)
Bulletproof Monk
Indiana Jones
Star Wars (although Lucas did that to himself)
E.T.
DOOM
...and countless others.

Let's throw WH40K on the pile!

GoFenris wrote:Well, let's see...
Hollywood has ruined:
Spiderman
Batman (until Nolan saved it)
Transformers
GI Joe (about to, not that it was that good to begin with)
Dragonball (about to)
Bulletproof Monk
Indiana Jones
Star Wars (although Lucas did that to himself)
E.T.
DOOM
...and countless others.

Let's throw WH40K on the pile!

While I agree with you that for the most part Hollywood basicly up whatever they get their tentecles on,I see it this way,books,hobbies (40k) etc are the "steak" (for the most part) of enetertainment, Movies are sort of like cheeseburgers,dont expect much ever..but somtimes their amazingly good .

Hourus Heresy The Movie

feth YEAH lol

OverbossGhurzubMoga wrote:And I swear if Uwe Boll ever makes it, I will move to another country.

Ha!

Regisimus wrote:Heres the thing, in order for there to be a movie made 40k will have to reach a high level of popularity.

Quite wrong, the alleged built in audience in existing franchises has little impact on the success of a major studio release.

And don't forget the laughable Inquisitor shorts GW made. I've downloaded Damnatus, but haven't watched it yet (and I mean watch it only, no english subs). But at least it looks better than the GW produced stuff.

I think a 40K movie would be really good as long as it sticks to the history of 40K and doesn't make anything out of preportion or change anything.

A good base would be the horus hersesy like "thoasandtg son" says.
They have the novels, do something with it.
Look at Star wars it worked out, only took 25 years.

I heard a rumour once that BBC was making a CGI version of the novel's. Rumour*

A struggle between man is everything humanity wants.
Son betraying his father.
Pulling his brothers down with him.
Brother fighting brother, and thealien race's join in to cleanup the left overs.
And a great clash at the end.

The old 40K movie i think early 90'ties. was a dissaster.
On youtube you can find some clips from it.
Imperial guard and Space marine's main part.
crappy one-liners and conversations.

greetz typhoon

I think the Warzone movie is a great warning of what happens if you try to make a movie on a budget. A 40K movie will have to be big budget and unlike the LOTR movies, the general public are not even aware of the 40K universe.
LOTR was made because of the massive fan base the books have. Hopefully a combination of the Black Library books and the DOW games will get a movie made because the tabletop game aint going to do it.

cadbren wrote:LOTR was made because of the massive fan base the books have. Hopefully a combination of the Black Library books and the DOW games will get a movie made because the tabletop game aint going to do it.

Books are never made into movie because of their fan base. The studio has to believe in the movie. And what producers decided to believe in changes every month.

http://www.damnatus.com/seite.php?file=info I found a movie but its in german and looks like, as typhoon said, on a budget. Most noticeably is the fact that the entire movie takes place underground by the looks of it.

Damantus actually got cockblocked by GW because of their idiotic IP policy being incompatible with German Law (In a rare case of Rulebook Trumping Codex. GW Says "Yarr We Own All Rights!" and Germany Says "Lol No Wai, dey Haz Ritez!") so its actually illegal for them to show it (to the best of my knowlege, not sure if the situations changed)

But the sad and depressing truth is, a 40k Movie will, if its ever made, be boilded down to Marketable stereotypes and be fluffraeped so hard it wont walk right ever again.

All in All I hope they never do.

If they DID however, I cannot see them making it live action. I would absolutely LOVE to see a Straight to DVD Anime Release, since they need less money to make and can survive and make a profit on a lower target audiance (i.e. Less Fluffraep)

jabbakahut wrote:

OverbossGhurzubMoga wrote:And I swear if Uwe Boll ever makes it, I will move to another country.

Ha!

Regisimus wrote:Heres the thing, in order for there to be a movie made 40k will have to reach a high level of popularity.

Quite wrong, the alleged built in audience in existing franchises has little impact on the success of a major studio release.

And don't forget the laughable Inquisitor shorts GW made. I've downloaded Damnatus, but haven't watched it yet (and I mean watch it only, no english subs). But at least it looks better than the GW produced stuff.

To support jabbakahut's arguement. Godzilla (the 1997 US produced film) is the highest grossing Godzilla movie ever (something like 20x the gross of the next Godzilla film) and a financial success world wide despite it previously (and still) having a niche' fan base. Yet, if you ask just about any Godzilla fan, it is one of the worst Godzilla films ever (if not the worst). A few big hollywood names and a huge promotional budget and the film's a hit despite its true fans. 40K could go the same way with the right team, we'd probably mostly hate it though.

Oh, I'm with you on the Uwe Boll comment, yeuch!

I can see it now, a stylized Space Marine captain in shadow backlit with some Dreadnoughts fighting Orks siloutted in the distance on a ruined city backdrop with the words...

Emmerich / Devlin

Apocalypse

This Summer

See the movie event 40,000 years in the making.

i am slightly bias, but wouldn't a movie based on the Soul Drinkers be a good way to introduce the 40k to the masses? well of course the whole, it is the 41 st millennium, and there is only war, giving a few basic introductions to the factions and then cutting to the first story of the Soul Drinkers boarding the Space Fort in their first story i know it may not be for all, but it is a good story line and i like it, it also introduces plenty of other races, chaos, dark eldar, the IG and the Inquisition and marines, well that's my thoughts, it will be interesting to see what others think

After looking at some videos in DOW 2 its possible to make a full movie and would be amazing.

Gw would have to be 100% ok with it and basically be the director and so would basically kill it.

I reckon there are more people who like 40k than steven segal, so if he can be in movies, so can genestelers.

a hobo wrote:After looking at some videos in DOW 2 its possible to make a full movie and would be amazing.

Gw would have to be 100% ok with it and basically be the director and so would basically kill it.

I reckon there are more people who like 40k than steven segal, so if he can be in movies, so can genestelers.

Genestealers were in movies. Alien, Aliens, Alien3, Alien Resurrection, AVP and the dreadful AVP Requiem (was this last one a Uwe Boll movie? I couldn't tell because I couldn't see what was going on.)

AVP Requiem?
I thought that was just 2 hours of Black Screen?

Really, is there any better idea than to just make the Horus Hersey as a movie? Sure the fans know the ending (tell it to the Tolkien fans), but it's really one of the most interesting stories in the 40K 'verse.

GoFenris wrote:Well, let's see...
Hollywood has ruined:
Spiderman
Batman (until Nolan saved it)
Transformers
GI Joe (about to, not that it was that good to begin with)
Dragonball (about to)
Bulletproof Monk
Indiana Jones
Star Wars (although Lucas did that to himself)
E.T.
DOOM
...and countless others.

Let's throw WH40K on the pile!

transformers! are you high? That was an epic movie. Buddy if you didn't like it then you just generally fail at everything.

"And it shall go the same direction as the live-action Super Mario Bros. movie"

thedarkside69 wrote:

GoFenris wrote:Well, let's see...
Hollywood has ruined:
Spiderman
Batman (until Nolan saved it)
Transformers
GI Joe (about to, not that it was that good to begin with)
Dragonball (about to)
Bulletproof Monk
Indiana Jones
Star Wars (although Lucas did that to himself)
E.T.
DOOM
...and countless others.

Let's throw WH40K on the pile!

transformers! are you high? That was an epic movie. Buddy if you didn't like it then you just generally fail at everything.

Ha ha! Now that's funny! To be honest I never liked the Transformers way back in the day so the movie just was the same sillyness with a bigger budget. Hence, just as silly. And what does critique-ing have do to with failing anyway? Weird.

Now Lord of the Rings, there is something Hollywood (or more accurately, Kiwiwood) ruined. Don't believe me? Have you read the books since you've seen the movies? Don't misunderstand, the movies have some fantastic and classic elements to them and the acting was (mostly) superb but as a whole (I'm judging the whole of the movies versus the whole of the books) they do not hold a candle to the books. I still watch the movies but there are whole scenes I just skip completely or I'll get pissed off.

Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:"And it shall go the same direction as the live-action Super Mario Bros. movie"

There was a live action Super Mario Bros.? Oh wait, I get it!!!

Well I am a guy who was brought to the 40K universe by the videogame. I am now entrenched in it and have made it a full-time investment and hobby. I ahve seen a couple short films put out, mostly dealing with the inquisition. I do think there was a possibility of a film but it never reached fruition...one can have faith in the Emperor.

Unless Zack Snyder (or a director just like him) does the 40k movie and gives it the same treatment that he did to 300 and Watchmen, it will be done wrong.

Dakka will hate it almost as a whole, and it will be stupid.

Go ahead, give the job to Micheal Bay if you doubt me.

Deadshane1 wrote:Unless Zack Snyder (or a director just like him) does the 40k movie and gives it the same treatment that he did to 300 and Watchmen, it will be done wrong.

Dakka will hate it almost as a whole, and it will be stupid.

Go ahead, give the job to Micheal Bay if you doubt me.

Fantastic!!! And a Michael Bay snub to boot! Genius! I commend you Sir!

typhus wrote:warhammer would become a fad if a movie was made so no

Agreed...

Deadshane1 wrote:Dakka will hate it almost as a whole, and it will be stupid.

Wow, way to speak for everyone.

The problem with fanboys is that their fanboys. It's not fair to compare multiple interpolations of a fiction through different medium. LotR was an incredible series of films, to whine about the books being better is to show how closed minded someone is.

Although incredibly unlikely in any future, a 40K movie would fail in any fans mind if you have preconceived notions of what it "should" be.

With LOTR i love the books but i still loved the movie, granted it wasnt 100% accurate.

There are alot of people slagging off the movies because of the allready existing high fan base. There will be a high set number of people who would see it plus all the new fans that would be made.

When people say its geeky and wont get enough people to see it, lord of the ring was fairly "geeky" before and look how well that did.

it would have to be a minimum rating of 18 to make a true gore soaked bloodbath that it should be.

a hobo wrote:
it would have to be a minimum rating of 18 to make a true gore soaked bloodbath that it should be.

And that's where the plan goes Tits Up to use my Pure English. GW will never let a Studio do it like this as they will be scared someone will sue them (don't ask why, nor ask if it will even be successful, even false accusations can destroy a company) because they ed up some kids brain or something. And even if Hell Froze over and Hel became a Nice Tropical Beach and they did, there isnt a single movie studio that will do it because it's too "risky" in that it might not be a hit.

The only way it would ever be done is as a Direct to DVD job, which is why I said before It would then have to be a Japanese studio. For those who may not know, Direct to DVD has a different cultural value in Japan. While in the West it is mainly reserved for Poor Quality low budget dealies or Porn, in Japan it is considered something for High Quality and Experimental Films to be made. And Porn.

Now they style I'd love to see it as, if anyone has seen that American Dad episode Dungeons and Wagons, the "Game" Sections look awesome.

Waaaaaaagh! wrote:

a hobo wrote:
it would have to be a minimum rating of 18 to make a true gore soaked bloodbath that it should be.

And that's where the plan goes Tits Up to use my Pure English. GW will never let a Studio do it like this as they will be scared someone will sue them (don't ask why, nor ask if it will even be successful, even false accusations can destroy a company) because they ed up some kids brain or something. And even if Hell Froze over and Hel became a Nice Tropical Beach and they did, there isnt a single movie studio that will do it because it's too "risky" in that it might not be a hit.

Unfortuantley you are correct because some little kid will get to watch it, get traumtised then there parent will blame GW rather than themselfs for getting for them.

I rember we had the intro to the orginal DOW with the orks and blood ravens fighting on the hill playing on the TV. Some parents looked shocked at this "kids" game and that was a realtivley tame video so a full blown 18 movie would have rage at GW.

i like the style of the cutscenes in DOW 2 a mix between cartoon and CGI and i rekon would look amazing as a movie rather tha real flesh and blood actors, if final fantasy gets 2 movies then so should 40K.

a hobo wrote:if final fantasy gets 2 movies then so should 40K.

Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage!

There are no Final Fantasy Movies! Its all a lie! A LIE!!!!

But onto a more proper topic regarding a movie. Lets say, by His Most Holy Divine Intervention of Holiness™ they do make a movie, it Will NOT be about the heresy.

Why?
It's too Human-Centric. For a Sci Fi film to be interesting to the masses, you cant have Humans as Bad Guys, they have to be Demons or Faceless Aliens. As much as a 3-movie-each-7-hours-long-philosophical-epic-detailing-the-Flawed-Nature-of-Man-ranging-from-how-animosity-spreads-into-blind-hatred-to-those-who-were-betrayed-by-those-they-trusted-and-how-even-those-perceived-as-Divine-and-Flawless-can-be-Morally-Blind would be awesome, it just wouldnt happen.

And of course if it did happen I would make HappyJuice in my pants lol.

I just hope they remember to make the Emperor Turkish looking and not some faced American

Waaaaaaagh! wrote:I just hope they remember to make the Emperor Turkish looking and not some faced American

That's interesting, are you saying that just so it's different, or is there some canonical reference?

jabbakahut wrote:

Waaaaaaagh! wrote:I just hope they remember to make the Emperor Turkish looking and not some faced American

That's interesting, are you saying that just so it's different, or is there some canonical reference?

He was born in the Region that Was Turkey in about 80000BC. This Canon (Old Canon but still Canon) See Here

One account of the Emperor's origin goes so far as to say that he had mortal brothers and sisters and details the time and location of his birthplace - eighty thousand years before the forty-first millenium, in the region of Terra then known as Central Anatolia

ye
bring on the movie

40K would much better lend itself to an animated series in the DOW intro style on HBO etc...there is far too much fluff (most of it conflicting at that) to ever be put into a movie in a satisfying way. The problem is if you lose a little you lose a lot IMHO.

Having Tracked down Damantus and Watched it, I have to say its rather damn good, especially since is basically a Student Film ^^,

Waaaaaaagh! wrote:Having Tracked down Damantus and Watched it, I have to say its rather damn good, especially since is basically a Student Film ^^,

How far did Damnatus actually get? I thought they got to rendering a couple of Rhinos and then got hit with the C & D order before any actual rendered 'filming' occurred.

They went "Gold" As in 100% utterly finished. It was only then GW pulled the Plug

they make films from books..... and anyone whos been in a GWS recently will have seen the mountain of novels they try n get you to buy... so im sure itll be in the pipeline somewhere....

Waaaaaaagh! wrote:They went "Gold" As in 100% utterly finished. It was only then GW pulled the Plug

So how's the plot fo this glorified sudent film?

Waaaaaaagh! wrote:He was born in the Region that Was Turkey in about 80000BC. This Canon (Old Canon but still Canon)

It's from the Realm of Chaos books. I've heard the story about the mass suicide of psychers resulting in the birth of the emporer, but the figure of 80,000 years ago I don't like. Seems like what I've read recently pointed it more twoards years 3K-4K. I think everything works better if you keep 40K in the future beyond real historical scrutiny.

I know someone mentioned it but WH40K + 300...

I am all for it but, does anybody remember the D&D movie... yeah....

Knowing hollywood though, they would screw it up and make every 40k fan asplode in the theatres.

Fattimus_maximus wrote:I am all for it but, does anybody remember the D&D movie... yeah....

Good point. And that is why it shouldn't be made. At least until someone with a unique vision options it and gives it the LotR treatment.

jabbakahut wrote:Good point. And that is why it shouldn't be made. At least until someone with a unique vision options it and gives it the LotR treatment.

Your 100% right there, only way to do the story justice

Just get THQ to make it the same quality as the DoW 1 intro and youre good . That was so epically awesome.

The second and third wars of Armagedon might make a good movie/ movies

Actually, I'm not sure which idea I would like more, a series of movies done as well as LotR, or a TV series of the production value as BSG on a network like HBO where it can be violent.

I have to go with the HBO angle! Even a short run series would probably end up better than one or two movies.

Ewwww a D&D movie. -vomits everywhere-

Hhhmmm. I'm always deeply suspicious of talk of a 40K movie. I honestly think it would end up like the D&D or Mutant Chronicle films.

Most successful war movies usually have a strong philosophical and sometimes Anti War message which is at odds with 40Ks background. Even if told from the guardsman point of view I imagine most 40k fans would started spitting teeth if the characters started questioning the morality of constantly waging war and the evil regime for which they fight. Conversely the average move goes will spit teeth if they don't!

A film which basically says 'War is Ace' before showing 2 hours of cheap visual thrills will have little to offer the average movie goer. Just as the black library books which may well be fun for the 40k enthusiast will be seen as little more than childish war porn by anyone else.

Movie already exists. It's called Starship Troopers.

LuciusAR wrote:...Most successful war movies usually have a strong philosophical and sometimes Anti War message which is at odds with 40Ks background....

Yeah, I agree, the more I think about this idea the more I'm inclined to think a 40K movie will never work(at least not a good one). War is illogical and destructive. It works for a game specifically because the gamers need a reason to fight and continue to fight. It is a persisitant gaming enviroment. A wide spread movie (e.g. one that must appeal to the masses) would have to have this anti-war sentiment at the very least, being viewed from the eyes of the common Imperial man or woman paying the price of that constant warfare. An HBO show may be able to better interpret these ideas (the 40K constant war ones, that is) and find it's niche' audience away from meddlesome Hollywood producers that have ruined so many artistic interpretations before. Just my thoughts on it.

*Deep Voice

In a world where there is only war...

as long as it not blood raven or ultramarien im on bord but if its ether ill kill some one

The way i see it, in order for any sort of move to be good, it will have to be the following:

A Series, not a Movie:
there is just far, far too much stuff to fit into a single movie.

Animated, not Live Action:
As sad as I am that it will never be Traditionally Animated, I would prefer CGI to live action any day. Live Action is too expensive and limiting.

A movie about the Heresy Would be Fail:
Why? because "For a Sci Fi film to be interesting to the masses, you cant have Humans as Bad Guys, they have to be Demons or Faceless Aliens. As much as a 3-movie-each-7-hours-long-philosophical-epic-detailing-the-Flawed-Nature-of-Man-ranging-from-how-animosity-spreads-into-blind-hatred-to-those-who-were-betrayed-by-those-they-trusted-and-how-even-those-perceived-as-Divine-and-Flawless-can-be-Morally-Blind would be awesome, it just wouldn't happen."

From an IG perspective it could work.
At it's core IG fight because if they don't mankind will be wiped out. The fight is coming whether they want it or not. The xenos destroy or enslave, the mutant destroys, etc. etc. So they fight to survive. Why? So more will be born to continue the fight and so on and so forth endlessly. It's circular but what must be.

Intro into IG fighting traitor guard leaving the audience to decide which of the two is 'good'. Then drop in SM and Chaos to ramp it up visually and to show the extremes of both viewpoints. Maybe even partway through toss in a third faction. Now it's a three way standoff. No good guys per se (dark and morally ambigous w/ no real heroes- Hollywood loves that crap) just survivors.

I'd like to see a movie done of the book 'Fifteen Hours'

That should be good for 90 minutes.

Or maybe 'Scourge the Heretic' ... that one book that came out when Dark Heresy came out... That could be a good 2 hours.

The only problem is that both lack Space Marines and I would think that would be a staple for a 40k movie.

OverbossGhurzubMoga wrote:I know someone mentioned it but WH40K + 300...

Neato

Waaaaaaagh! wrote:There are no Final Fantasy Movies!

lolwut

I would really like to see the Eisenhorn books turned movie. But at the same time I don't cause it would never live up to my imagination.

they wont put orks as the bad guy because there to lord of the ringy but traitor guard or eldar would be good

freefire13 wrote:they wont put orks as the bad guy because there to lord of the ringy but traitor guard or eldar would be good

I dont really agree that Orkz would be unaceptable "bad guys" due to LOTR,I belive that most people who would know the difrence between 40K Orkz and LOTR Orcs will,of course know the difrence,and the general population,who for the most part have little to no idea about such things will for the most part simply view Orkz in a "Wow lots of big green dudes with axes,cool,pass the rasinettes." mentality.
IMO (as I stated waaaaaaaay back at the begining of this thread) A three part film concerning the Hourus heresy would seem to be the most viable story to translate to "the big screen",although I do tend to belive that for the most part fans of 40k the game would not care for any "hollywood" interpetation in general.

3 Films? Not enough, unless they are 7 hour epics. There is just Far too much material to cover. laugh all you want, but other than the Dungeons and Dragons Multiverse, 40k is the most highly detailed and rich mythos there is.

A Much better situation I think would be a Series straight to DVD, much in the way OVA's are done in Japan.

This has the advantage of being able to not leave anything out, as they are not constrained by the limits of a cinematic release (I mean, you know how much it took to convince the to let LotR run as long as it did? And even then they had to cut out 1/4 of the stuff, as evidenced by the existence of Directors Cuts) or broadcast timeslots. This means the Director and Writers can actually do a good job and not have to worry about "omg will movie goers get this" because they will be able to tailor for the people who will actually buy/give a flying toss about it, which are the fans.

And I also agree Holywood should stay as far away from any adaptation as possible. What we want is an Independent Animation Studio to do it, western or eastern there are pros and cons to both. That way it will be done right.

I definatly agree with you GWAR concerning having a straight to DVD series,particuliry being done via independent animators.
IMO it would be infinatly more desierable to see the 40k univeres brought to life in this manner than to see it hacked and sterlized for mass consumption .

Gwar! wrote:... but other than the Dungeons and Dragons Multiverse, 40k is the most highly detailed and rich mythos there is.

I like how you just made up a fact.

jabbakahut wrote:

Gwar! wrote:... but other than the Dungeons and Dragons Multiverse, 40k is the most highly detailed and rich mythos there is.

I like how you just made up a fact.

Oh yeah? How did I make up a fact? Ok, perhaps I should have said "one of the most highly detailed and rich mythos there is." Happy now?

How about we have a straight to DvD thing like the Animatrix. Different animators, different stories. Short clips, maybe up to 30 mins long for a clip.

Sounds good to me.

Dreadwinter wrote:How about we have a straight to DvD thing like the Animatrix. Different animators, different stories. Short clips, maybe up to 30 mins long for a clip.

Sounds good to me.

As long as it was just a collection of short stories and nothing regarding major "events" then yes, that's a nice idea. Anything Major like the Great Crusade or the Heresy would have to be done by a single studio.

Gwar! wrote:

Dreadwinter wrote:How about we have a straight to DvD thing like the Animatrix. Different animators, different stories. Short clips, maybe up to 30 mins long for a clip.

Sounds good to me.

As long as it was just a collection of short stories and nothing regarding major "events" then yes, that's a nice idea. Anything Major like the Great Crusade or the Heresy would have to be done by a single studio.

That seems like the best probable outcome. The animatrix was really good, and by using a mix of animators, the style isn't locked down and can be seen with multiple interpretations.

Apocalypse please!!!

I would just LOVE to see the Yarrik and Ghazkull duke it out on screen!

Also, if Orks are in the movie as the main enemy, it has to be CGI, if Tyranids are the main foe then live action is good.

Dakkadood wrote:Also, if Orks are in the movie as the main enemy, it has to be CGI, if Tyranids are the main foe then live action is good.

Either option is terribad. CGI just looks aweful, and Live action is too expensive.

Soul Drinkers movie.
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djphranq wrote:I'd like to see a movie done of the book 'Fifteen Hours'

That should be good for 90 minutes.

QFT that book was small, and very well written, the end was bitter sweet but it held true to the dark 40k setting of war and death, a movie based on this book that followed closely to the writing would be amazing

I would concur on either of the last 2 poets. Fifteen hours was a cool story and could be done really well as a Saving Private Ryan type of SciFi. The Souldrinkers could be good but it would need a little work. The steady mutations that occur, the betrayal of the AM. They may legalize marijuana in the States before a W40K movie comes out...

If they include orks in a movie I really think it will attract people to our hobby. Orks are really cool, their funny and badass at the same time! They are also completely different then lotr orks and when people see the movie they would see the difference. A good idea IMO would be SM vs Orks and incorporate CSM and a bloodthirster in there somewhere...

Sarpedon_702 wrote:I would concur on either of the last 2 poets. Fifteen hours was a cool story and could be done really well as a Saving Private Ryan type of SciFi. The Souldrinkers could be good but it would need a little work. The steady mutations that occur, the betrayal of the AM. They may legalize marijuana in the States before a W40K movie comes out...

-cough-

California passed Proposition 215 in 1996, later renamed the Compassionate Use Act, which would protect anyone from criminal prosecution if recommended by a doctor to use marijuana as relief from some critical illnesses such as cancer, anorexia, AIDS, and glaucoma. In early 2009, California state representative Tom Ammiano introduced a bill, titled Marijuana Control, Regulation, and Education Act, to legalize, regulate, and tax the recreational use of cannabis in California.

I know it's not all the States, but still

Make some mindless action for the masses, and a fluffify it for the gamers, win-win?

Packeteer wrote:Make some mindless action for the masses, and a fluffify it for the gamers, win-win?

Based on this mentality, I would normally tell you to go die now...

But that's just because I like to watch movies that are complex, gripping, and carry a plot line that takes a bit of thought to follow. The fact of the matter is that, if you make this as a straight to DVD, given the mentality and movie culture in the US, it loses any credibility it would have as anything but a hacky release that would be doomed to be shown on the SciFi channel every day for about a month and a half before being relegated to the dollar store bargain bin, never making it's initial investment back.

On the flip side, if they just make it a 90 minute popcorn flick (pronounced "*censored* pile of *explicit* *censored*"), then you end up alienating your core customer base for the material that spawned an abomination of that scale. It would make money, but, in the end, it ends up hurting the bottom line for GW, as it would attract very few people to the game, and a few people would walk away from the game altogether based solely on principle.

For anyone that needs a shortened version of my opinion on the matter:

The Transformers movie sucked. Movies like the Transformers movie suck. It's not that movies like these shouldn't be made, as we all consume crap on some level (Hey, how many people here like Twinkies?), it's that you won't be able to do the IP justice one way or the other.

2-2.5hr movie set in a hive about a chaos cell trying to subvert the local population in anticipation of a chaos invasion force. Imperial guard or PDF with help from the inquisition fight to save the hive until marines and others arrive to save the day at the end. Maybe have one or two marines arrive early to help out.
Whatever they do has to have human interest in it somewhere.

Well economic woes may stir enough for the states to legalize marijuana and then regulate it as alcohol and tobacoo are. The proposed tax revenue would top 100 billion over 10 years.

The simple reason marijuana isn't legal was based on timber interests and racism...Thanks Mr. William Randolph Hearst.

If they did it via Hollywood, then they would appease the masses, and alienate the gamers, but get the gamers back by making 40k models cheap- lets go Hollywood

Huffy wrote:If they did it via Hollywood, then they would appease the masses, and alienate the gamers, but get the gamers back by making 40k models cheap- lets go Hollywood

If we are speculating at the actuality of a movie, and not the possibility-the gamers make no difference to the movie. The 40K community is not such that could support a movie by themselves, more so I barely think the 40K community would make any dent in the film if none of them went-a complete boycot. The movie would have to reach for a broader audience.

If they did do a movie that used the same imagery, then imagine all the cheap knock off toys that would come out and make perfect statues and other terrain pieces for the table top.

cadbren wrote:If they did do a movie that used the same imagery, then imagine all the cheap knock off toys that would come out and make perfect statues and other terrain pieces for the table top.

QFT.

Bring it on, I dont care if the movie is a horrible terribad rehashed ruined piece of fluff with bad CGI graphics.

I will still play 40k, all my friends will still play 40k, and we MIGHT get a couple more friends to play too.

The few people who would stop playing 40k based on principle or disgust need to just lighten up.

I'm all for it.

Dronze wrote:

Packeteer wrote:Make some mindless action for the masses, and a fluffify it for the gamers, win-win?

*Speech about The Masses vs. The Hardcore*

I have to disagree, a competent enough film team can create a movie that satisfies "everyone" I think the best way to create a movie like this is to make it like a novel, the novels have an entertaining plot, loads of action, and stay true to the game. Get someone like Graham McNeil to write it up, so eberyone be happeh <- Smiley Chaos

McNeil? We should be so lucky. If a 40k Movie is ever made we will get C.S. Goto to write it, it will be directed by Uwe Boll and star Keanu Reeves and Arnold Schwarzenegger as a SPESS MAHRINES.

On a Positive note, who thinks Kevin Conroy would make an awesome SPESS MAHRINE?

NinjaPenguin wrote:

Waaaaaaagh! wrote:There are no Final Fantasy Movies!

lolwut

What's up with blond guys wearing sunglasses? I mean other people wear them too. I definitely think that Uwe Boll should egt another shot at this whole movie making thing.

I don't know if it's been brought up yet, but I don't think Space Marines would make for a very engaging characters. It's kind of tough to relate to a seven foot genetically engineered killing machine screaming for 2 hours. As much as I appreciated what Zach Snyder did with 300, I thought screaming Spartans got pretty ridiculous very quickly.

I was always of the opinion that the Gaunts Ghost series had the most potential, and would be the most feasible budget wise. Best bet would be for SciFi/HBO/Showtime to option a Mini-Series a la Battlestar Galactica and make it into a series if it was popular enough. But that's just me.

ratmkith wrote:I don't know if it's been brought up yet, but I don't think Space Marines would make for a very engaging characters. It's kind of tough to relate to a seven foot genetically engineered killing machine screaming for 2 hours. As much as I appreciated what Zach Snyder did with 300, I thought screaming Spartans got pretty ridiculous very quickly.

I was always of the opinion that the Gaunts Ghost series had the most potential, and would be the most feasible budget wise. Best bet would be for SciFi/HBO/Showtime to option a Mini-Series a la Battlestar Galactica and make it into a series if it was popular enough. But that's just me.

I dont think so, ive started reading the soul drinkers omnibus and i feel for them, they were betrayed by imperium, then the Inquisition guys went after them because there scared of rogue SM and nothing happens to everyone else (im not done reading yet)

And a more important question would GW even allow a movie 40k related to be made? and if they did im sure they would want to control a lot of its production. Which could deter interest of people wanting to make a 40k movie

If they ever do make a 40k movie it probably be one of these two ways:

1. Make a movie like 300 or something like that to get the mainstream audiences attention and hopefully draw them into 40k [the fluff atleast].
or
2. Make a good storyline LOTR type film based either on a major 40k event [horous heresy] or create one of their own [dawn of war] and draw them in that way.

Personally I wouldnt mind either of them, but if they do make a 40k movie then it shouldnt lose the plot about 40k and put in other random crap out of nowhere. Stick to what is true, otherwise when it is released the mainstream audience will interpret that movie as what 40k is all about, which I for one do not want to happen. But it would be awesome to see a 40k movie released especially if it like the dawn of war intro's [the original and/or dawn of war 2].

I might concur. Perhaps use Space Marines as secondary characters, or even a single Death Watch or Grey Knight Marine...

In one of the Ghost books, the Astartes were kind of a distant thing, where they did their job, left, and left the Guard to clean up. It kind of lent a vague, supernatural image to them.

As opposed to 300, something along the lines of the Riddick series would leave enough gloom in a 40k film.

ZF-

Take the most Grimdark Film you can think of, and then mate it with AvP, that's how dark you need to get to make a good 40k Movie.

Gwar! wrote:Take the most Grimdark Film you can think of, and then mate it with AvP, that's how dark you need to get to make a good 40k Movie.

-50 Credability (entertainment) for Gwar for referencing the spin-off of the right series of films....

But at least you had the right vein of films (almost...).

Give the project to Ridley Scott and let the man run with it. At least he'd be able to get it right.

if i would every create a movie of warhammer 40k movie it would be about the imperial guards perspective - i imagine the war for armageddon the whole movie is about one squad surviving against countless waves of orks and when they are slowly losing there squads number the space marines come down from the sky devastating the orks a regaining the morale for the squadron charging for there positions and fighting the orks, the movie ends when yarrick duels with ghazghull as an epic 5-10minute scene, when this is happening the sqaudron is fighting a winning battle and when the orks leave it opens a cliffhanger for the 2nd war of armageddon as seeing the orks in the jungle. with the graphics seen today (the lastest star trek) this is easily possible and would seriously be badass. the combat would be similar towards 'Saving private Ryan' but instead more 40k and huge badass titans!

I think a good way to make a warhammer 40k movie would be to introduce people to the fluff/history. Start off with how all this war began, how and why the imperium was formed etc. That way people watching the movie wouldnt be confused as hell about what was going on. The challenge would be doing this and still making it interesting to watch.

I disagree, movies are generally better when you don't get into the back story, case and point is the original star wars, they started in the middle of the story. There is way too much back story to explain it all. LotR did a good job with their 10 minute introduction, something like that might work.

Alright, first 10 minutes=formation of imperium+horus heresy
then the movie will be based on a major war like armageddon, but not a black crusade, but the movie needs orks in it, cause everyone will love orks

I think we should be talking more about the actors in this film! I definatly want Patrick Stewart in this, as well as Sean Connery! I think that guy who did the motion effects for Gollum in LOTR and King Kong in the Peter jackson film should do the motion for the orks, he is brilliant at bodily acting and just deepen his voice and he could do a great ork voice! Ron Perlman should also play an IG commissar (spelling error, I'm sure of it) and get Angelina Jolie to play an eldar Giggity

Ron Perlman is a good call. I don't think the orks should talk, in fact nobody should speak English except the Imperium, everybody else should be subtitled, but not the orks, they just make noise and seem to communicate.

jabbakahut wrote:Ron Perlman is a good call. I don't think the orks should talk, in fact nobody should speak English except the Imperium, everybody else should be subtitled, but not the orks, they just make noise and seem to communicate.

Mixed feelings about this one...

I agree that talking orks would be sort of a letdown to the traditional alien stereotype, but Orks are just so damn funny (in a dark way); at least have them say WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh come on, how can we not have orks speaking in London Accents!

Gwar! wrote:Oh come on, how can we not have orks speaking in London Accents!

That make me think of Arcanum.

Gwar! wrote:Oh come on, how can we not have orks speaking in London Accents!

Not just London; Cockney! Cock it up with Cockney!

Oh! And they could do it like they did in Hunt for Red October. The Russians start the movie speaking Russian. Because they're Russians. But, early on, there is a close up of Sean Connery's mouth, and as we pull back, English is coming out of his mouth. It's the director's way of saying, "Yes, Russians speak Russian, but we know you hate to read subtitles." They could do that for the Orks.

Phonate wrote:

Gwar! wrote:Oh come on, how can we not have orks speaking in London Accents!

Not just London; Cockney! Cock it up with Cockney!

Oh! And they could do it like they did in Hunt for Red October. The Russians start the movie speaking Russian. Because they're Russians. But, early on, there is a close up of Sean Connery's mouth, and as we pull back, English is coming out of his mouth. It's the director's way of saying, "Yes, Russians speak Russian, but we know you hate to read subtitles." They could do that for the Orks.

Well, considering they will need subtitles even if they DO speak English, it wont make a difference

Plus a Movie with orks but without a Ear Splitting WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! will be an upset. And another thing, if they have the orks actually saying "Waaaaaaa!" I'll be very upset. Its meant to be a more bestial roar than a word.

Def to da humies!

You have to have something like that if orks are being used.

Inquisitor.... made me die a little on the inside :(

Omg, Spess Wolf Terminators in Inquisitor? :(

Re: Live Action

I think Chronicles of Riddick had a perfect visual style, and is the closest we've gotten to a Grimdark Gothic Sci-Fi movie, which isn't surprising since Vin Diesel is a big-time gaming nerd.

Let's be honest, this is a pretty decent approximation of Space Marines in power armor:


Plus you could make live-action Orks by mixing good make-up like this guy from Galaxy Quest:


with the gait (Orcs) and scale tricks (Hobbits) used from LOTR.


Of course, Riddick did rather poorly at the box office, so a gore-filled grimdark gothic sci-fi movie that's rated R would pretty much only appeal to us nerds, and subsequently not turn a profit.

It needs one essential thing to be an epic movie:

-Chuck Norris as Marbo

on a serious note: with technology today i strongly believe it is capable to create a digital simulation of the WH40k universe as we know it ( i mean if you have looked at the star trek/transformers detail is epic ).

i reckon live action is the only way to go, completely cgi (monster inc.) or anime would fail alot in that setting

in terms of movies, the lotr style 3 epically long movies would be awesome as it would provide enough of an incentive to get people to research it if they felt strongly enough about it, and then they could make an HBO series to continue on from the movie, but with a different story, gaunt's ghosts would work well

Edward089 wrote:i reckon live action is the only way to go, completely cgi (monster inc.) or anime would fail alot in that setting

in terms of movies, the lotr style 3 epically long movies would be awesome as it would provide enough of an incentive to get people to research it if they felt strongly enough about it, and then they could make an HBO series to continue on from the movie, but with a different story, gaunt's ghosts would work well

Yes, and if you look at LotR, notice how muich money was spent on them...

Now compare it to a Crappy B Movie (which is about what the budget would be)...


Yeeeeeah Id rather cut off my own testicles with a Haddock than watch a Live Action WH40k movie.

Now having a animated 40k movie with the main character styled on Vin Diesel and Voiced by him (and Perhaps a Samuel L Jackson Voice too, we all know how he loves to do gakky B movies), would be epic win and cake

Cheese Elemental's recipe for a game-movie:
1) Take video game or tabletop game.
2) Find famous director.
3) Ask him not to direct the film, and find someone really obscure instead.
4) ???
5) PROFIT!!!

Paul Anderson would love to do it. I have to admit, he did manage to pull off Resident Evil pretty well.

And it should be CGI, ala the Dawn of War II intro.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Cheese Elemental's recipe for a game-movie:
1) Take video game or tabletop game.
2) Find famous director.
3) Ask him not to direct the film, and find Uwe Boll
4) ???
5) (Negative) PROFIT!!!

The real life formula Holywood seem to use

Not to grimdark,people might not want to see it.

oggers wrote:Not to grimdark,people might not want to see it.

This is 40k, it has to be even more grimdark than AvP!

If they ever do a 40k, which they wont, It has be gothic and dark. With a feel similar to 300 to get the main stream involved. CGI would be a must less the power armour might be quite hceesy looking and the orks end up looking like Bane from batman and robin!!! Anyways id love to see a 40k movie and the time might be right. We nerds have gotten bombarded with great movies the last few years so why not.

I just watched Damnatus last night (apparently it was "leaked", you can find it on torrents with English subtitles). It's surprisingly good, and suffers only from abysmal special effects. Good plot, decent acting, and true to the Grimdark 40k background. Even the costumes are pretty good.

Noble713 wrote:I just watched Damnatus last night (apparently it was "leaked", you can find it on torrents with English subtitles). It's surprisingly good, and suffers only from abysmal special effects. Good plot, decent acting, and true to the Grimdark 40k background. Even the costumes are pretty good.

Yeah, its a real shame GW had to kill it officialy (something to do with German Copyright laws that forbid the "giving up" of ownership or something. Translated to normal people language it means: "ZOMG if we ever want to sell this we have to PAY THEM? Sod that!")

Recipe for successful 40k movie: Start with 300, take out spartans, replace with ultramarines, minimum length of 2 hours, and. . . BAM 40k movie!

Persians are not worthy Opponents for Ultramarines.It needs to be an Army Of Avatars, or Greater Daemons, and each ultramarine kills 708 of them each before breakfast

Damnatus?
How do I find it?

The Internets. A Certain Lagoon of Scandinavian Knaves might help

Huh?

You must go to the 'buccaneer lagoon' wink wink nudge nudge and they will give you a 'torrent' of information.




I think that the best possible 40k movie might be 2nd War of Armageddon. Epic battles, pathos, tragedy, huge armies of orks, SoB Space Marines, IG...

GW wouldn't know how to make a good movie.

Most of the studios wouldn't know how to handle it. They'd give it to a genre producer/diretor and make a ham-fisted stab at it. Most of them wouldn't know a space marine from their posterior sphincter.

Moving to another country if the movie was made by Uwe Boll wouldn't help unless that country has forbidden his movies to be shown (and then you wouldn't see a lot more movies as well)

I hate Zack Snyder.
But I liked Watchmen.

If there were to be a 40k movie, I wouldn't want to see it as a 300 styled gorefest. I wouldn't mind seeing the Horus Heresy done up, or the Battle of Rynn's World, or hell the Damocles Gulf Crusade would even be an interesting way to start off the movie franchise.

Or maybe the 13th Black Crusade, who knows!
There's quite a few instances where we've had multiple armies converging for battle, and we could go from there.

Lucas Arts.

sugna the repairible wrote:Lucas Arts.

Are you suggesting Lucas Arts should do a 40k film? or saying Lucas Arts would be the company that would not know a space marine from a prolapsed prostate?
"Posterior sphicnter"..misquoted Chromedog.

FITZZ wrote:

sugna the repairible wrote:Lucas Arts.

Are you suggesting Lucas Arts should do a 40k film? or saying Lucas Arts would be the company that would not know a space marine from a prolapsed prostate?
"Posterior sphicnter"..misquoted Chromedog.

Neither are Mutually Exclusive sadly.

I bet Weta Workshop could knock it out of the park.

Gwar! wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

sugna the repairible wrote:Lucas Arts.

Are you suggesting Lucas Arts should do a 40k film? or saying Lucas Arts would be the company that would not know a space marine from a prolapsed prostate?
"Posterior sphicnter"..misquoted Chromedog.

Neither are Mutually Exclusive sadly.

QFT ,

I meant get lucas to do it or get the people who did hellboy+the makers of the LotR to work together on it or all three.

kged wrote:I see no viable possibility of a 40K movie, in the current climate.

9.00am, Paramount Studios Executive Offices...

The Pitch:

"OK, right, there are these fanatical warriors who kill without mercy and have no fear of death, driven by raging hatred of all those they deem unbelievers. Determined to annihilate all opposition at any cost, they -"

"Thanks for your time, gentlemen. Security will see you out."

You must not have seen movies like Daddy Day Camp.

We could get micheal bay to do it. . . . it would consist of massive explosions, transforming robots. . .er... i mean marines

BaronIveagh wrote:I think that the best possible 40k movie might be 2nd War of Armageddon. Epic battles, pathos, tragedy, huge armies of orks, SoB Space Marines, IG...

Yup, Armageddon is just waiting to be turned into a Movie.

I can really see the movie follow a regular Guardsmen (perhaps even a Whitestripe), starting with a flashback/dream about the previous invasion only to be interrupted by the shouts of the Sarge (ORKS!!!!!!).
After some some glorious battle we are introduced to some of the heroes , mainly Commissar Yarrick; We then see the entire company hold the hive from the Waaagh and culminate with the Yarrick/Ugulhard duel after which the SPESS MARINES arrive and the movie changes partially the focus on them (say the last 30 minutes of the movie or so) so that people can get close enough to them to set them up for movie #2 (space marines movie).

The whole army feeling would probably be easier to pull off at the box office than the elite uberhuman spess marines, and once hooked up, people will follow when they are introduced.

Yeah...

If they did something like an Armageddon movie to test the possible future, then follow it up with a high budget HH trilogy, that would be sweet!

Oh yeah good guy versions of every one of the legions!

Dakkadood wrote:

BaronIveagh wrote:I think that the best possible 40k movie might be 2nd War of Armageddon. Epic battles, pathos, tragedy, huge armies of orks, SoB Space Marines, IG...

Yup, Armageddon is just waiting to be turned into a Movie.

I can really see the movie follow a regular Guardsmen (perhaps even a Whitestripe), starting with a flashback/dream about the previous invasion only to be interrupted by the shouts of the Sarge (ORKS!!!!!!).
After some some glorious battle we are introduced to some of the heroes , mainly Commissar Yarrick; We then see the entire company hold the hive from the Waaagh and culminate with the Yarrick/Ugulhard duel after which the SPESS MARINES arrive and the movie changes partially the focus on them (say the last 30 minutes of the movie or so) so that people can get close enough to them to set them up for movie #2 (space marines movie).

The whole army feeling would probably be easier to pull off at the box office than the elite uberhuman spess marines, and once hooked up, people will follow when they are introduced.

Yeah...

We'll follow it with Hive Fleet Behemoth. Now for the Epic Struggle at the polar fortress. Let's show those Starship Trooper script writers and photographers how it's done.

Then either 3rd War for Armegeddon or Damocles Gulf Crusade.

Gaunts Ghosts

ah imagine a 40k movie and bet thing is you don't have to build or paint them ^^

My question is if there was a movie, (we all know it would star the Ultramarines) who would best fit the roles?

Thought about it while bored at work and here were some thoughts.

Marneus Calgar = Sean Connery. Beause he has that wise leader type look.

Space marine squad = any badass from previous action flicks, examples: gerrard butler, dolph lundgren, the rock etc. etc.

Screaming space marine sergeant = Sammuel L Jackson. Because a) he will be in any movie he can, including this one. b)hes almost always yelling and c) i can already picture the scene "i want these motherfething nids off this motherfething planet"

anyone else?

SonofTerra wrote:My question is if there was a movie, (we all know it would star the Ultramarines) who would best fit the roles?

Thought about it while bored at work and here were some thoughts.

Marneus Calgar = Sean Connery. Beause he has that wise leader type look.

Space marine squad = any badass from previous action flicks, examples: gerrard butler, dolph lundgren, the rock etc. etc.

Screaming space marine sergeant = Sammuel L Jackson. Because a) he will be in any movie he can, including this one. b)hes almost always yelling and c) i can already picture the scene "i want these motherfething nids off this motherfething planet"

anyone else?

What a way to make a high budge B movie. Sean Connery retired years ago (besides that he is like almost 80), Sam Jackson seems like a far fetch for any serious movie after Snakes on a Pain. It would be best left to British unknown (in the US at least) actors.

Plus they could do all the Ork's foices!
Yay!

jabbakahut wrote:

SonofTerra wrote:My question is if there was a movie, (we all know it would star the Ultramarines) who would best fit the roles?

Thought about it while bored at work and here were some thoughts.

Marneus Calgar = Sean Connery. Beause he has that wise leader type look.

Space marine squad = any badass from previous action flicks, examples: gerrard butler, dolph lundgren, the rock etc. etc.

Screaming space marine sergeant = Sammuel L Jackson. Because a) he will be in any movie he can, including this one. b)hes almost always yelling and c) i can already picture the scene "i want these motherfething nids off this motherfething planet"

anyone else?

What a way to make a high budge B movie. Sean Connery retired years ago (besides that he is like almost 80), Sam Jackson seems like a far fetch for any serious movie after Snakes on a Pain. It would be best left to British unknown (in the US at least) actors.

Yeah... alas Sean dosn't amkes movies like Highlander anymore...

I dunno, I could see as a cameo joke having Jackson saying something like that. But it'd have to be a Commisar Cain movie at that point.

No, we want Perter Jackson and Stephen Spielberg on this one. I want the first 20 min of Saving Private Ryan meets Helms Deep. And that's probably half the movie right there, actually...

sugna the repairible wrote:Lucas Arts.

Nooooooo!!!

Okay, I skipped from 3-6 so I apologize to anyone whoalready said this.

Movie idea. Follows an ignorant boy chosen from agriculture world drafted to become a psyker. Through this you can introduce the world to everybody while showing how grim it is, and how curropting the warp is. He struggles with chaos trying to turn him while learning his powers. Eventually he overcomes some Chaos dude in the end while avoiding dark eldar pirates, orks raids on his home planet, and realizing how screwed up the imperium is, all the while just wanting to go back home and be a farm boy.

Personally i hate the idea of a 40k movie, it would turn our niche hobby into a fad that every 6-10 year old baffoon would want his parents to buy for him.

Forums would be overrun, FLGS would be swarmed and there would be no stock left for the true players to buy...

Basicly the worst parts of the bible.

When I read the HH novels, I always play the scene out in my head, and I can't help but imagine certain characters as certain actors. SO (at risk of running the thread straight into new and frightening territory) who would feature? Startting with Horus Rising, here's who I have so far -

Karkasky : Ian Holm
Sinderman : Ian McKellan
Loken : Christian Bale
Abaddon : Robert Carlisle (cause no man gets angry better than the Carlisle)
Torgaddon : Brendan Gleeson
Aximand : Vin Deasil (i know he's a total dough-ball, but c'mon, he busted his wee acting chops off in Saving Private Ryan)

I am at a loss as to the others :p Primarchs are a bit of a tough one, although Hugo Weaving should defo be one :p

I don't think that a WH40k movie should have any famous actors at all. I like the animation they did in the original dawn of war intro. They should make a movie entirely like that. It allows for essentially anything you would want, as opposed to an actor's limits, make-up, expensive props etc.

I second that motion, NO FAMOUS PEOPLE ALLOWED

Also the animation would allow for more ridiculous pieces of weaponry(SAG)

jab4962 wrote:I don't think that a WH40k movie should have any famous actors at all. I like the animation they did in the original dawn of war intro. They should make a movie entirely like that. It allows for essentially anything you would want, as opposed to an actor's limits, make-up, expensive props etc.

I agree with this, I think it's probably be the most effective way to conquer the vastness of the universe and it's lore...

the only thing that's dissuading me from this train of thought is waiting to see what Jim Cameron's done with Avatar...maybe, just maybe a WH40K film could be made as he's made Avatar?

Another thing i've just gotta put in tho...Clancy Brown would totally RULE as Horus in a HH film!!! Especially with that gruff voice from the Highlander days LOL!

I think practically, 40k's best bet would be the Horus Heresy. If it started in the 41st millennium there would be quite a bit of willing suspension of disbelief required. If the story was started from the beginning (and the story would have to be humans, No one would want to watch a bunch of aliens beat up humans without us winning in the end) it would make sense. I agree with the trilogy or quadrilogy idea, but it would have to be one from the beginning to prevent another matrix reloaded from happening.

If they made a trilogy, Horus Heresy only. If it were to become a quadrilogy, Horus Heresy, and the last movie about it in shambles, and the universe struggling to keep itself alive. NO GOOD ENDINGS!!!! I WANT THIS TO BE A DARK AND SOMEWHAT DEPRESSING MOVE!!!!

RobDA wrote:Another thing i've just gotta put in tho...Clancy Brown would totally RULE as Horus in a HH film!!! Especially with that gruff voice from the Highlander days LOL!

That is one of the best ideas to come out of this thread!

If they got lazy, they could just make FireWarrior into a movie.



If they do make a 40k movie, they have to get Celldweller to make the music for it.

jabbakahut wrote:

RobDA wrote:Another thing i've just gotta put in tho...Clancy Brown would totally RULE as Horus in a HH film!!! Especially with that gruff voice from the Highlander days LOL!

That is one of the best ideas to come out of this thread!

Hey thanx man :-)

If they did make a 40k movie i would see it. But, as a word of advice, I suggest that nobody get their hopes up too high. The producers might stay true to the fluff, but knowing Hollywood they probably won't. But its possible that they may make a movie, because at E3 this year Relic announced the making of a space marine game that looks decent, and hopefully this leads down the path to a cinematic story.

P.S. If it involved the Primarchs, that would be funny if they had Hugh Jackman play Leman Russ. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

I really hope Hollywood never get the rights or anything...they'll screw the lore right up...it doesn't need any arty touches or anything it needs to be gritty, massive and overwhelmingly moody... if it were to go to hollywood it would get swarmed with that annoying 'sheen' that they seem to coat everything with...

There are modern exceptions...but the overall track record is not favoured...and they should not be allowed to use a franchise as big and reputable as WH40K to 'prove' they can do anything other than big, colourful and corny lol

If you let say Jim Cameron do it, I have every confidence that he'd nail it...but the input of complete WH40K 'hacks' is the most important step...and making sure you get that really bloody, moody vibe about it...I mean it's the 31st Millenium and before...

'In the grim darkness of the far future...there is only war' - they don't say that for poo's and giggles ;-)

Attcually my brother is planning on making a movie and he studies film. He May make a IG movie though. But he needs it improved by GW

I like this, I too study film and have a variety of Storyboard forms of scenes I want to make next year on my film course.

Altho I do not know how feasible it is going to be I intend to make quite a job of it...

What doesn your brother have planned? Or can't you say?

Cheers

I apologize if this point has been raised before, but I'm afraid I am just to fethin lazy to read through 7 pages of thread to see if my point has been raised and then smashed to pieces already.

The Star Trek movie is a great model for what the Warhammer movie should be.

-ducks as dakkites start throwing things at him-

Here's why: The Star trek movie did two things. First, it used the relatively unknown backstory of a famous character (Kirk) and had enough crazy CGI, action, and hot multi-racial chicks to lure in Trekies, and those who looked upon Startrek as the lowest form of Geekiness imaginable.

So this is what it means for the movie.

1) it can NOT focus on Horus, because we've learned pretty much everything there is to know about the fether and those of us who aren't just tired of his angst know enough about him will never be satisfied with any rendition of him.

2) It mus focus on an ambiguous chapter of some famous character (again, not Horus! No one would be satisfied with any Horus that GW could give us... just face it ). This means that it'll be satisfying to those of us who have always wondered about tht one guy who did that one thing and then subsequently flew off into the sunset, never to be hear from again. It also introduces a character with a defined place in the wonderful world of Warhammer 40k which would hopefully draw potential fans of the movie who are strangers to our nerdy ways.

Further, it must NOT be about Space Marines. People would not relate to them. IG or Inquisition would be about it, really.

Terra Unification Wars would work a treat I feel

I like the idea of a WH40k movie about IG or Inquisition, because fans could relate to the characters. But I still think there should be space marines *but*, they should not play a significant role. Suggestion, if there were a few batlefiesld focusing on Ig or whatever, and you see some SM's of in the distance or one goes of a killing spree for a few seconds and then gets his head blown off, etc. Again, nothing significant.

RobDA wrote: Terra Unification Wars would work a treat I feel

I strongly second this.

Techno Barbarians are WAAAAAAYYYY cooler than SpezMarenes

The earth as it was during those times is a great setting- familiar enough to be relatable (and believable) but still massively different.

Cool factions like the Roma would add interest that - 'then we drop podded in and owned face' - would not

You could have regular human protagonists, and still get plenty of OMGWTFBBQ moments when a proto-space marine squad shows up in Thunderer armor and starts boltering everything

The emperor would be waaay easier to develop as a character in this context than if you started w/ the crusade

You can just leave a lot of stuff unexplained in this context and you can't if you skip to the great crusade. People couldn't be expected to just accept that there are giant superhumans led by angellic men in robot suits flying around the galaxy killing aliens for a god, who isn't, won't admit he is, but sort of is divine.

Whereas a Terra unification war movie could (and should) set up like the first Mad Max. You don't really know why everything is screwed up, which really makes everything that much more menacing.

Silverthorne wrote:

RobDA wrote: Terra Unification Wars would work a treat I feel

I strongly second this.

You could have regular human protagonists, and still get plenty of OMGWTFBBQ moments when a proto-space marine squad shows up in Thunderer armor and starts boltering everything

The emperor would be waaay easier to develop as a character in this context than if you started w/ the crusade


I agree, altho I think it'd be really cool if the story centered in on, like you say the human protagonists and a MArine maybe....always keeping the Emperor as a 'mentioned' part of the narrative, but ultimately a massive mystery...until say the end of this gargantuan 4hr film when you get a glimpse of him (not full face) maybe congratulating one of the Thunder Warriors on their successes.

I think it's really important with that sort of character to build it up and not disclose too much too soon.

Ultimately the central characters to the narrative would remain parts of the warring factions on Terra......I think the film would be awesome if it were titled 'Terra'.

That way the fanboys would know, the general public would be quite curious.