Hey guys go check out bell of lost souls they are talking about a plastic trygon
Here is a like to the forge world one http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/trygon.htm
And here is a link to the one in the Apoc book http://s257.photobucket.com/albums/hh207/VoidLord/?action=view¤t=plastictrygon1.jpg
There is some noticeable diff between them the number of ribs, the jaw and the tongue to name a couple

PS that is not my photobuket

Any chance of uploading it to the gallery for those of us at work?

Here you go
plastic trygon?


FW trygon

It's just a conversion you can see that they are obviously the same model.
For example the tail and the scythes these are exactly the same.

Damn you beat me I was gonna post pics.

I saw this at warseer, they are reporting it as confirmed pics of the new plastic kit. They also have some pics on another thread of what is believed to be new plastic building kits that would accompany the planetstrike release. All these releases are rumored to be droping about the same time, I think.

goffnob deffsmakka wrote:It's just a conversion you can see that they are obviously the same model.
For example the tail and the scythes these are exactly the same.

Why would you convert one to have 2 rows of teeth and 13 ribs instead of 12 and not put on the armor on the chest

goffnob deffsmakka wrote:It's just a conversion you can see that they are obviously the same model.
For example the tail and the scythes these are exactly the same.

Uh.. no, you can see that they are obviously NOT the same model.
For example the tail and the scythes these are specifically different.

wilsmire wrote:Hey guys go check out bell of lost souls they are talking about a plastic trygon

I wonder how much it pisses off other sites when the BoLS guys rip off their content and then everyone starts to link to BoLS instead of the original source?

I have no idea. But I dont think they would care or else they would have there sites blocked so you cant read there posts

pixelgeek wrote:

wilsmire wrote:Hey guys go check out bell of lost souls they are talking about a plastic trygon

I wonder how much it pisses off other sites when the BoLS guys rip off their content and then everyone starts to link to BoLS instead of the original source?

I find it pretty funny when some noob posts some comment about "Look what I just saw on BoLS!!1!" in the thread on Warseer (or elsewhere, but usually Warseer) where BoLS got the rumour from... some 10 pages earlier.

The plastic valkryie is nearly identical to the forgeworld one, so why would it be hard to imagine that the trygon would be different? Besides, I see a lot of differences in the two models, and it seems pointless to convert most of them.

Her Majesty's Buxom Commissar wrote:

goffnob deffsmakka wrote:It's just a conversion you can see that they are obviously the same model.
For example the tail and the scythes these are exactly the same.

Uh.. no, you can see that they are obviously NOT the same model.
For example the tail and the scythes these are specifically different.

The tail IS the same it just has a different scythe at the end.

I have a reason to convert them:

DIFFERENT WARGEAR

example:
Head obviously has implant attack
Arms obviously have toxin sacs
Tail probably some kind of special tail end.

wilsmire wrote:
Why would you convert one to have 2 rows of teeth and 13 ribs instead of 12 and not put on the armor on the chest

It could be an earlier version of the forgeworld trygon.

I sorry goffnob deffsmakka I am a dumb ass. Apparently I was wrong since you not only increased the font sized you also put it all in caps. And Oh btw FW has only put out one Trygon. Also I did not know/think that the trygon could take those upgrades

Why doesn't someone just ask Moloch? He's a user here, it's his Paint scheme, and the vast majority of the rest of the nids in that battle are HIS(you can tell between Moloch's and GW's because Moloch's carapaces are black and GW's are bluish), so I assumed the Trygon was his.

And if it's not his, he may know something about it for the reason of he was there.

Jaw distended with significantly larger tongue(classic gw plastic nid characteristic), top arms look like converted Big Scything Talons, Tail scythe at different angle, chest spines look different and are facing different directions, 13 ribs as opposed to 11, no stub claws on tail... there are quite a few differences. I doubt that its a conversion from a FW Trygon, given the difference in number of ribs.

If that is plastic it is amazing and I want one.

The carapace on the tail is definitely different between the two pictures!

BoLS is definitely getting more and more slowed. They're pretty much grasping at anything these days and throwing it out as a rumour.

BrookM wrote:BoLS is definitely getting more and more slowed. They're pretty much grasping at anything these days and throwing it out as a rumour.

Having now checked the Warpshadow Forums:

Moloch wrote:The often-rumoured plastic Trygon is certainly a solid possibility and yes, Hydra, Mr Pink and me might have taken a peak at some parts some time ago.

To which Mr_Pink replied:

Mr_Pink wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about! LALALALA! It's all a miraculous dream! It doesn't exist! Just like plastic Cadians!

Edit: Phil Kelly's Trygon, which is closer to the Apoc Trygon than the FW version, and Moloch has already stated that there are variant heads for the plastic:

Yes Bugs at warpshadow forums with the help of some more "elucidated" members, made these news.

Doesnt piss me off, news are just news... as long as bugs get them first

My hope for the plastic version? That it has enough spikies to replace those that broke off and got themselves lost when I dropped my FW trygon.

Nice! I'm lovign thsi apocalypse love for all races! Of course, I want more for the IG... but be that as it may.

Squiggoth next maybe? Or a Revenant? After the Thunderhawk, of course.

Scottywan82 wrote:Nice! I'm lovign thsi apocalypse love for all races! Of course, I want more for the IG... but be that as it may.

Squiggoth next maybe? Or a Revenant? After the Thunderhawk, of course.

I hope they put out a Revenant/Eldar SHT, Thunderhawk, and something for Chaos before they do a Squiggoth or anything else for orks(other than a sprue for Mek Stompa).

I just want a Thunderbolt. I'm going to buy a DOZEN.

all i can say is that i do not think a plastic trygon is what they will be releasing soon.i reckon the will release something people want more first(ie DE codex, plastic warhound titan) before this, but a plastic version of this would still be very cool. not that i collect tyranids.

I'm doubtful of a Squiggoth... orks already have theirs. It will probably which ever army is done after 'Nids. GW seems to be trying to coincide these larger kits with codex releases. Stompa with Orks, Shadowsword with IG, and Thunderhawks before Space Wolves. If this plastic trygon is proof of anything it supports the rumor saying tyranids maybe out next year. With space hulk sometime this year, I'm not surprised to see it generally surrounded by things that supplement it; Space Wolves (marines) then Tyranids... maybe Tyranids will be the first releases of next year.

I do not collect tyranids, but if this actually is a plastic model(I think it is) then this is setting a great trend and it seems like only a matter of time until more and more APOC models are either made for the first time or converted to plastic. The escalation just keeps going. Exciting times.

It's also mounted on an Oval base, ala the Valkyrie. Perhaps not significant in itself, but probably worth adding to the pot.

I reckon it's either a new FW Version yet to be seen, or indeed a plastic one. Either way, I doubt it's a conversion!

The models are clearly the same... the "plastic one" had just had it's jaw lowered and its tongue extended with putty.

The bumblebee one is best. Love the head design.

jackinthetank wrote:The models are clearly the same... the "plastic one" had just had it's jaw lowered and its tongue extended with putty.

I can assure you it's not the FW Trygon, or at the very least, if it's a conversion of one, very little of the original parts are on that conversion. I own the FW model and comparing mine to the Apoc pic and Phil Kelly's model, they are clearly NOT the same.

Look at it closely there are TONS of tiny differences. They are not the same model.

jackinthetank wrote:The models are clearly the same... the "plastic one" had just had it's jaw lowered and its tongue extended with putty.

It's pretty much confirmed that it is plastic. Any similarities are intentional. There are some differences, an extra rib here and there, some other small things. Just look how close the Valkyrie is to the FW's.

I think it looks different compared to FW one but....

why Trygon?? i realize its a popular model but the variance are still ALL CC related! whats the point?

Give us Heridules or something where we can atleast pick between ranged or CC ....

Well one reason may be that it wouldn't be that hard to adapt the Trygon rules to normal 40k (a la the Valkyrie). Also, as the Trygon is smaller it wouldn't be as big of a risk for GW as releasing a heirodule or other large bio-titan. If it sells well, I'd expect to see other big Nid beasties released in the future.

Ozymandias wrote:Well one reason may be that it wouldn't be that hard to adapt the Trygon rules to normal 40k (a la the Valkyrie). Also, as the Trygon is smaller it wouldn't be as big of a risk for GW as releasing a heirodule or other large bio-titan. If it sells well, I'd expect to see other big Nid beasties released in the future.

I totally agree with you , because after all , Trygon was going to be the FW model for tyranids i would get.

But if people are considering purchasing multiple trygons for example i think have them all CC related would be boring
and might hurt the sales

( pose looks static , it would be ok for tanks yes, but not for organisms imo )

LunaHound wrote:

Ozymandias wrote:Well one reason may be that it wouldn't be that hard to adapt the Trygon rules to normal 40k (a la the Valkyrie). Also, as the Trygon is smaller it wouldn't be as big of a risk for GW as releasing a heirodule or other large bio-titan. If it sells well, I'd expect to see other big Nid beasties released in the future.

I totally agree with you , because after all , Trygon was going to be the FW model for tyranids i would get.

But if people are considering purchasing multiple trygons for example i think have them all CC related would be boring
and might hurt the sales

( pose looks static , it would be ok for tanks yes, but not for organisms imo )

The Trygon has a short ranged shooting attack(at least currently). However, if it uses it, it doesn't get it Invulnerable Save.

Trygons have always been CC Monsters, ever since their inception in Space Marine Hive War.

They are shock troops. They don't need long ranged firepower, because they come out from underground and tear into your rear lines....

LunaHound wrote:
I think it looks different compared to FW one but....

why Trygon?? i realize its a popular model but the variance are still ALL CC related! whats the point?

Give us Heridules or something where we can atleast pick between ranged or CC ....

I seriously see this as being in the Tyranid codex getting downgraded from Gargantuan to an extra tough monstrous creature. That a true superheavy like the Heridule might be in the works. Simply put size/strength/ability the Trygon as it is doesn't really match up to the other super heavies done so far or rumored. Then again GW may just see it as a larger risk than the previous superheavies and opt to do it as a $60 kit instead of the larger $95 ones.

aka_mythos wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
I think it looks different compared to FW one but....

why Trygon?? i realize its a popular model but the variance are still ALL CC related! whats the point?

Give us Heridules or something where we can atleast pick between ranged or CC ....

I seriously see this as being in the Tyranid codex getting downgraded from Gargantuan to an extra tough monstrous creature. That a true superheavy like the Heridule might be in the works. Simply put size/strength/ability the Trygon as it is doesn't really match up to the other super heavies done so far or rumored. Then again GW may just see it as a larger risk than the previous superheavies and opt to do it as a $60 kit instead of the larger $95 ones.

Yes, the play it safe route GW chose to go with.

Makes you wonder why dont they just take a deep breath and go for a design thats not dependent on FW's creativity.

A new Tyranid super heavy that have both ranged and cc options thats not done by FW yet.
I mean seriously, the only "cool" stuff seem to come from FW . why is it like that? Are the GW design team just not as talented?

I would rather go to BOLS for rumors than Warseer any day, and I don't care if they give them credit or not. What I really want if a plastic Warhound.

warpcrafter wrote:I would rather go to BOLS for rumors than Warseer any day, and I don't care if they give them credit or not. What I really want if a plastic Warhound.

And they'll do that as soon as they do a plastic thunderhawk. Likely never.

warpcrafter wrote:I would rather go to BOLS for rumors than Warseer any day, and I don't care if they give them credit or not.

As others have put it, BoLS is good in a way for getting the headlines for rumours. But to continue the analogy, the real story lies in the link to wherever they got the information from (when they provide a link). Unfortunately, like with real news/papers, you then have to wade through a lot of crap to uncover the details/truth.

Just like in real life, if you only read the headlines you're not getting the full story.

LunaHound wrote:
Yes, the play it safe route GW chose to go with.

Makes you wonder why dont they just take a deep breath and go for a design thats not dependent on FW's creativity.

A new Tyranid super heavy that have both ranged and cc options thats not done by FW yet.
I mean seriously, the only "cool" stuff seem to come from FW . why is it like that? Are the GW design team just not as talented?

The design work is already done. So all GW has to do is translate the FW design into a plastic sprue. That's a lot easier than doing the design AND doing the sprue construction. I don't think it's a question of talent, rather one of convenience. I mean, hell, if you got a great design already sitting there, might as well make it into a plastic kit!

aka_mythos wrote:I seriously see this as being in the Tyranid codex getting downgraded from Gargantuan to an extra tough monstrous creature.

Why? They didn't do that for the Baneblade, Shadowsword or Stompa? What do you base this on?

Um... the Valkyrie?

Which was already changed for Apoc, and then translated into regular rules. Moreover, the Valk isn't a Super-Heavy (or creater equiv), something that the Trygon is.

everyone seems to be forgetting that they had the prototypes for the plastic stompa in THE FIRST APOCALYPSE BOOK. that was a long time away from the actual release. even if they do plan to release a plastic trygon, it will be in a long time, and we will probably have lots of models that are even more impressive being made into plastic by that time. so yes, it is almost certainally going to be made into plastic, but not for a long time.

bottbott wrote:everyone seems to be forgetting that they had the prototypes for the plastic stompa in THE FIRST APOCALYPSE BOOK. that was a long time away from the actual release. even if they do plan to release a plastic trygon, it will be in a long time, and we will probably have lots of models that are even more impressive being made into plastic by that time. so yes, it is almost certainally going to be made into plastic, but not for a long time.

Bottbott, the picture of this supposedly plastic Trygon(the black and red one) is FROM the first Apocalypse book, so the time frame is the same as that of the already released Stompa.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Which was already changed for Apoc, and then translated into regular rules. Moreover, the Valk isn't a Super-Heavy (or creater equiv), something that the Trygon is.

That's awfully nitpicky. The valkyrie is a FW model that had rules unsuitable for normal 40k that were brought in line with the new Codex: IG. I don't think it's a stretch to say that the Trygon (a FW model with rules unsuitable for normal 40k) might get the same treatment.

Platuan4th wrote:Why doesn't someone just ask Moloch? He's a user here, it's his Paint scheme, and the vast majority of the rest of the nids in that battle are HIS(you can tell between Moloch's and GW's because Moloch's carapaces are black and GW's are bluish), so I assumed the Trygon was his.

And if it's not his, he may know something about it for the reason of he was there.

Sorry, for obvious reasons I couldn`t possibly comment. I remember that this particular beast was slain rather tragically by the Assault Marines and their Sergeant`s power first though...

Wow Ozymandias, I just got your reference...

Anyways, I don't see they the wouldn't stick it in the Tyranid codex. They are supposed to be the kings of all things big and pointy, this is just taking it to an all new level. (and anyways, it doesn't look bigger or even as big, as the plastic Mumak from LotR)

Moloch wrote:
Sorry, for obvious reasons I couldn`t possibly comment. I remember that this particular beast was slain rather tragically by the Assault Marines and their Sergeant`s power first though...

I have my answer if it is plastic or a conversion

Ratbarf wrote:Wow Ozymandias, I just got your reference...

Quoi?

wilsmire wrote:

Moloch wrote:
Sorry, for obvious reasons I couldn`t possibly comment. I remember that this particular beast was slain rather tragically by the Assault Marines and their Sergeant`s power first though...

I have my answer if it is plastic or a conversion

Quoi?

Quoi?

Is that not a reference to Ozymandias (the pic and name) from The Watchmen?

PS: I've read the poem to in English class, I just thought the pic was a picture of old Aquaman or something.

ShumaGorath wrote:And they'll do that as soon as they do a plastic thunderhawk. Likely never.

Really if you say so.

You're an evil man Brimstone.

You gotta admit Brim was shooting fish in a barrel with that one.

Ratbarf wrote:

Quoi?

Is that not a reference to Ozymandias (the pic and name) from The Watchmen?

PS: I've read the poem to in English class, I just thought the pic was a picture of old Aquaman or something.

What?!? My avatar is from the Watchmen comic?! Why didn't anyone tell me!

And the quote in my sig is from some poem you say?


I just think it's a coincidence.

Hahaha, I was waiting for someone to ask you if you avatar was from the movie. Read more books people, especially ones with pictures in them!

Oh, and actually on topic, the plastic trygon looks sweet, and if the plastic T-Hawk comes with planetstriek, as we have heard little whispers about, sweet titties that will be a happy day!

I have more than a company, they just need a super heavy to round them out!

Okay, the following is purely hypothetical, but bare with me for a second:

- as far as I know the Trygon is one of the "smaller" Gargantuan Creatures. And judging from the pic it's still "lower" than a Monolith.
- Apperantly there is a new 'Nid Codex on the way, but as usual, GW needs some sort of shiney new unit/model to get everyone's attention. And at this point, I seriously doubt that we'll get a new Tyrant, 'Fex or Lictor.
- There's a supplement on the way which focuses on attacker vs. defender and the Trygon is known to dig tunnels for the bugs to crawl through!

Just my 2 cents.

Reecius wrote:sweet titties that will be a happy day!

QFT, also, I now love the phrase sweet titties.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

aka_mythos wrote:I seriously see this as being in the Tyranid codex getting downgraded from Gargantuan to an extra tough monstrous creature.

Why? They didn't do that for the Baneblade, Shadowsword or Stompa? What do you base this on?

Because its smaller than either of those. Because its overpriced at just under 300pts. Because unlike Baneblade, Shadowsword, or stompa it isn't remotely overpowered and game misbalancing.

The tyranids have always lacked something analogous to a vehicle. GW slowly crept up the size of the Carnifex partially to deal with that void despite the fact that previously existing vehicle sized creatures existed. They did that because they didn't have the ability to make anything that size that was so organic. Now they do, now they can. I only believe they'd down grade it for the codex to keep it in the convention of the main rule book. A codified version og the Trygon would probably come in at 250pts and be the equivalent to being their Landraider or their monolith. You could maybe force it and squeeze a malanthrope out of the kit with the right bits. Even with bits for both the kit would never come near the $95USD mark that GW's been shooting for as a price goal. The model at best hits the $60 based on its size, they'd have to give you two to a box to make it make sense.

I personally believe that a Heirodule is more equivalent in size and power to a baneblade. If GW is trying to present each army with something relatively even with each other this is the prime candidate because of its generally equal footing, its equal size, and offers the most variety of possible variants off of one model. In much the same way that GW did many variants on the baneblade chasis, things like the Malefactor, Harusepex, and Dactylis could be incoporated into a Heirodule model with different heads and arms alot more easily then onto the Trygon.

The trygon is just a weaker candidate for a Tyranid superheavy kit relative to other options.

Ozymandias wrote:

Ratbarf wrote:

Quoi?

Is that not a reference to Ozymandias (the pic and name) from The Watchmen?
PS: I've read the poem to in English class, I just thought the pic was a picture of old Aquaman or something.

What?!? My avatar is from the Watchmen comic?! Why didn't anyone tell me!
And the quote in my sig is from some poem you say?
I just think it's a coincidence.

*face palm*

As someone who owns one of these bad boys Im a little miffed they are making a plastic one lol.

Really though gamewise its not that good. You can make a better CC Carni that is cheaper, and stays locked in combat. I know people are gonna say but wait it can assault outta DS, but its doesnt stay locked in combat hence it dies to shooting in the next round.

All of the Tyr Gar arent really that good (superflea aside). They can only make their points back by killin something in 1 round worth their cost.

Right now the Trygon cant really do that...what costs 300+ pts that they can kill in one round?

Now now, no reason to get all sarcastic and the like.

We are talking about a book where a main character has a glowing radioactive penis.

aka_mythos wrote:Because its smaller than either of those.

Not by a huge margin. And certainly the size of the model shouldn't be an absolute for the purposes of determining rules.

aka_mythos wrote:Because its overpriced at just under 300pts.

Don't disagree there. It's a straight FW copy and they're always over priced. And its stats are pathetic.

aka_mythos wrote:Because unlike Baneblade, Shadowsword, or stompa it isn't remotely overpowered and game misbalancing.

Overpowered? Ignoring Strength D, which cannot be balanced, super-heavies aren't overpowered and game misbalancing. A Baneblade goes down in a turn to some Termies with Chainfists. I've used Macharius' extensivley and they're not worth the resin they're made out of (do look cool though).

People are afraid of Super-Heavies on an irrational level. The Baneblade is easily 200 points overcosted (thanks to FW), and keep in mind that it was 600+ points before it got itself a 10" blast marker. The Shadowsword suffers from 'one gun' syndrome in that once its main gun is gone it's a lump of nothingness (some HB's... wow...). The Stompa I won't comment on as I've not used one nor faced one, so I can't claim anything here. But the rest? Super-Heavies are 40% walk and 60% talk.

H.B.M.C. wrote:People are afraid of Super-Heavies on an irrational level. The Baneblade is easily 200 points overcosted (thanks to FW), and keep in mind that it was 600+ points before it got itself a 10" blast marker. The Shadowsword suffers from 'one gun' syndrome in that once its main gun is gone it's a lump of nothingness (some HB's... wow...). The Stompa I won't comment on as I've not used one nor faced one, so I can't claim anything here. But the rest? Super-Heavies are 40% walk and 60% talk.

The irrational fear part is certainly true. I've gotten some hilarious reactions out of people when I've played with two Malcadors and a Baneblade. They often fall short of the mark as far as effectiveness goes, though to be fair, I've had two or three spectacular successes. I'm not sure if I'd go as far as to say the Baneblade should be 300 pts, but the Malcador Defender, at least, at 315, is overcosted by a margin of ca. 100 points.

I've put down my all Super-Heavies in a single game before - 3 Baneblades, a Hellhammer, Stormblade and a single Macharius (I would have had three if not for FW's 8-month shipping process). Backing me up was a pair of Revenant Titans. Half of them were gone by the bottom of turn three, most of them to Terminator Chainfists. I'm mored worried about 30-40 Terminators hitting my lines in a game of Apoc than I am 10 Super-heavies firing downrange at me. My Arty Corps (4 Bassy, 3 Manticore, 2 Griffon, 1 Bombard) caused more damage than all the Super-Heavies combined. And the Baneblade's worth about 450 (not 300). 400 for its lesser cousins.

The Malcador is terribly overcosted. Well armed, especially compared to the Macharius (more on that in a sec), but its slowness and armour makes it a liability. Factor in 5th Ed's rules for HTH attacks vs Rear Armour and you've got yourself a real liability there.

The Macharius is worse from a game perspective. A single big gun, and seconday weapons that are worse than a standard Russ, for more than twice the cost of a Russ. Two Russes put out more firepower and are arguably harder to kill for less points.

But that's Warwick fault - Mr. Copypasta couldn't wouldn't know decent rules if they came up and bit him in the face.

Hm. I see that in the new codex, a LR Demolisher with three HBs is 175. So, how should a Malcador Defender with a Demolisher cannon plus seven HBs be priced?

The figure of 215 I suggested might be a bit aggressive, but it's in the right general ballpark. Considering the Malcador chassis has 1 point less AV on front and sides, and that the superheavy status isn't that much of an additional protection from early destruction, especially by CC units. As a whole, I think Warwick is overrating structure points.

Hm, I think I should start a new thread about this.

EDIT: I did: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/234491.page

H.B.M.C. wrote:

aka_mythos wrote:Because its smaller than either of those.

Not by a huge margin. And certainly the size of the model shouldn't be an absolute for the purposes of determining rules.

It does when you consider the context of what I was saying, that relative to a the other large models GW is doing for other armies its tiny and GW won't be able to get a $95USD for it.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

aka_mythos wrote:Because unlike Baneblade, Shadowsword, or stompa it isn't remotely overpowered and game misbalancing.

Overpowered? Ignoring Strength D, which cannot be balanced, super-heavies aren't overpowered and game misbalancing. A Baneblade goes down in a turn to some Termies with Chainfists. I've used Macharius' extensivley and they're not worth the resin they're made out of (do look cool though).

It is overpowered and game misbalancing in a standard sized 40k game. That is what we were talking about. You know downgrading it to be on par to a 40k vehicle rather than a superheavy; to make it usable in a standard game in such a way as to not require apocalypse. So obviously I'm not talking about how its used in Apocalypse.

I was just saying to in all likelihood to keep stuff simple it'd be easier to downgrade it so it could follow the standard rules and fit a standard game.

Here is an easier break down:
Reasons it should be in 40k (and not just apocalypse):
-Aside from shoehorned carnifex, Nid's never got their "vehicle" sized models or rules in their codex.
-It has limited rules and point values that are generally in keeping with the scope of 40k scaled game.

Reasons it should be downgraded:
-Already one of the weakest of the Nid superheavies, it stands little to lose in becoming a "monstrous creature" with added abilities.
-To keep in a standard game it needs to have rules covered by the standard rulebook without requiring more than a paragraph to explain its special rules.

Even if the size is soso, its still boring to see same stike a pose , same 3 pairs of scyth!



hi im a trygon cat!

I would love a plastic Trygon kit.
I have had so many conversion ideas for the model, but don't have the confidence/skill to convert resin. Plastic would be a lot easier. I also really like the model and despite it's lackluster rules (as has been pointed out in this thread) it is still a really cool model to field on the table.

I suspect a plastic trygon will have a couple of different limbs and heads to choose from.

If it is in the new Nid codex (can't wait for that since Nids is the only army I have) I wonder if it will be like tanks in the new IG codex, or indeed Biovores/Zoanthropes in the current Nid codex, and 1-3 can be taken as a single HS choice.

Alitte OT ,

but i was wondering if there is any case in the past where mass warhammer fans ( example dakka ) sign petition for creating new game units?

LunaHound wrote:hi im a trygon cat!

Longtrygon is long?

*Edit sorry dont want to go off topic ><

OK, this is just peeing me off.

A few months ago I say to myself, "Self! a small skink army would be fun, maybe just 1000 pts for fun little games". So I buy some skinks. Then all the sudden "OMG new army book" and now I'm pushing 2000 pts of half-built models.

Then "OMG New guard stuff!!" nuff said.

And now a plastic trygon that I will not in any way shape or form be able to resist buying.

I guess I'm just not allowed to have money :( But at least my army men will always love me no matter how poor I get.

plastic trygon? ill take 10
ok, they arent the best for the points, but they look great, and for people that have never faced them it scares the gak out of them.
if my 3 scare someone then i need more!

from the pics i can see quite a few small differences, not that blatant, but they can be seen.
for all those who say it looks close to the FW one so it must be, look at the new plastic valk

Platuan4th wrote:

jackinthetank wrote:The models are clearly the same... the "plastic one" had just had it's jaw lowered and its tongue extended with putty.

I can assure you it's not the FW Trygon, or at the very least, if it's a conversion of one, very little of the original parts are on that conversion. I own the FW model and comparing mine to the Apoc pic and Phil Kelly's model, they are clearly NOT the same.

Once again I am misunderstood. The new plastic model looks the same as the FW one without taking into account small details. However I believe in the process of pre-casting the designer has taken the FW model and extended the tongue and had it's jaw lowered. Then the designer would have added some more intricate details.

Yeah but we all thought the plastic Valk was the FW one when we first saw photos, it was those tiny little details that distinguished the 2.

Ratbarf wrote:Now now, no reason to get all sarcastic and the like.

We are talking about a book where a main character has a glowing radioactive penis.

I'm just teasin ya. Nothing but love* for my brother Dark Angel.


*Manly, brotherly love.... Hey, just cause we play Dark Angels doesn't mean... Nevermind.

Ozymandias wrote:I'm just teasin ya. Nothing but love* for my brother Dark Angel.


*Manly, brotherly love.... Hey, just cause we play Dark Angels doesn't mean... Nevermind.

Shh... They must never know the secret we keep hidden in our dres... er, robes! Yeah, they're robes! Not Dresses in anyway, but manly, monkly robes!

Monks? Like the ones who spend years leaving in solitary training to fight with their "bare hands".

Man, I love OotS.

Its all good in da hood yo!

or the DA version

Its all <<Censored Rhyme>> on the rock yo!

OT, a Trygon horde of all the same basic pose I think would be really rather repetive, I hope they do give the option for at least leaning it over somewhay as the current pose is lack lustre in my opinion. Too static for the vision I have of a Trygon, more of a giant snake lizard thing that moves with blinding speed than something that looks like it got charmed out of a box by a demented Charmer...

If you can think of a better way to make a legless snake stand up right other than having it perched on its coiled tail, please enlighten us.

Well if you wanted to make it more varied, you'd split the elongated portion of the body into three parts, the part that connects to the torso, the tail, the part in between. You could then have an extra middle and tail section, that can trade out.

I don't think lack of varied poses is going to be an issue for me, since I'll only have the money to afford one (unless the plastic kit is less than £40), but I always had the idea of modelling one in the standard pose, one bursting forth from underground and another coiled around a tank crushing it like a boa constrictor.

I want to see a Warhound with a Trygon draped over its neck ala Jake "The Snake" Roberts.

Don't forget the crack pipe and smelly trousers.

I like the "crushed tank" idea. A dreadnought would work nice too I guess.

everyones forgetting a key point here when they say it looks single pose.
GS + decent knife = infinate poses

im all for a plastic trygon, will give me a reason to expand the nids without waiting ages for FW to deliver (possibly the wrong models again aswell)

I've had loads of conversion ideas for Trygons, but I daren't try to convert the resin model as it's too expensive to replace if I make a mess of it. I really hope this rumor is true because I would be able to convert a plastic Trygon. Already been thinking of the boa constrictor conversion, having it crushing a Rhino. Been watching the thread about making flames from glue so could even have a bash at having the Rhino exploding! (what I lack in actual skill I make up for in ambition ).

Wannabe Writer wrote:(what I lack in actual skill I make up for in ambition ).

QFT

@ HBMC

I was thinking more along the lines of the Elvish Stardragon if you wanted to make the pose less static you could easily use that kind of base, especially if the stuff is plastic.

You mean the dragon that's launching itself off of a rock? That means that where ever the Dragon goes, it always brings that rock with it.

I hate models that have terrain built into their base. It's no different to someone basing a Guard HW team behind a low wall - they're in 'cover' but they're not in cover, so they have to go into cover to get cover, so they're technically hiding behind a wall that's behind a wall... I hate that.

Scenic bases are one thing, having terrain features are a required element of your base is another.

FWIW, I think these pics are of the FW model, lightly converted.

A plastic Trygon would be cool if I were a Nid player.

Well seeing how the person who painted the Trygon you are referring to has implied very strongly that it's plastic I'm gonna say that you are wrong.

But I do agree that a plastic Trygon is cool for Nid players.

Slightly converted?

Who 'slightly converts' a solid piece of resin to remove a rib?

People who collect an utterly ridiculous amount of tanks?

For the trygon because its plastic it can have a wide variety of poses and doesn't simply have to be launching itself off of a rock or the like, for another good version of a large plastic model there are the Ringwraiths, and they use a peice of terrain to make them stand rather striaght up instead of coiled like the trygon.

Plastic Trygon = wet dream for Schepp himself

sorry that I didn't add anything to the thread.

Greets
Schepp himself

H.B.M.C. wrote:Slightly converted?

Who 'slightly converts' a solid piece of resin to remove a rib?

Ratbarf wrote:People who collect an utterly ridiculous amount of tanks?

EXALT!

This rumor would halfway excite me into 40k again, even. But I've already got the resin trygon.

Nice to see they are doing this, though. The guy who stole my hivefleet's name as his screen name should not be so coy and should just admit that he's seen, touched, even licked the plastic kit!

H.B.M.C. wrote:Slightly converted?

Who 'slightly converts' a solid piece of resin to remove a rib?

The hive mind obviously decided to create a female version

Aww, come on Brimstone. You know something, just spit it out already

Ratbarf wrote:People who collect an utterly ridiculous amount of tanks?

How is that even related?

Anung Un Rama wrote:EXALT!

O...k?

Hey man, one of the vets who used to hang out at the local military museaum died about a year ago or so and when they went into his basement they found over 2700 plastic model airplanes tanks and ships.

I could see someone with that kind of dedication doing this just to have something different.

Though admittedly my jibe was indeed aimed at your rather legendarily obese tank collection, don't get me wrong. I love that kind of stuff I do personally think that it is a plastic Trygon, but you kind of walked into that one.

Still not seeing it. My comment was related to an earlier one where soemone found it absurd that someone would go to the effort of converting a Trygon to simply remove a rib?

What that has to do with owning 135 vehicles I do not know...

The hive mind obviously decided to create a female version

or the trygon is going Mr manson style ..... shudder the thought.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Still not seeing it. My comment was related to an earlier one where soemone found it absurd that someone would go to the effort of converting a Trygon to simply remove a rib?

What that has to do with owning 135 vehicles I do not know...

135 vehicles?! Do you get your own line on the GW Oz financial statements?

Wow thats got to be the first time I've seen bugswarm post in.......hell I don't remember. I don't even remember the last time Mauleed posted. Come back, the 3 of us still here miss you !

But seriously, that isn't a resin conversion.

oz, i take it you havent seen pics of his army?
a sea of silver and grey




i agree with HBMC though, some of the change seem pointless, who the feth carves a rib out of a trygon because they are bored?

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Ratbarf wrote:People who collect an utterly ridiculous amount of tanks?

How is that even related?

Anung Un Rama wrote:EXALT!

O...k?

I assumed Rat Barf talked about that someone hast to be seriously invested in the hobby to do something like that. The same kinda guy who also might have waaay to many tanks.

On a completly unreleated note, how many Leman Russes do you own H.?

30... or 31 if you count the Bombard.

I rest my case.

Brimstone wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Slightly converted?

Who 'slightly converts' a solid piece of resin to remove a rib?

The hive mind obviously decided to create a female version

Hahaha, that was a good one! I guess that means the Tyranids are no longer innocent!

hehe quite amusing every thread HBMC post in always end up with info on how many tanks he has.
But how does one stay committed to army long enough to expand it to that size ? I mean if its LordCastellan where he bought it all together it sort of make sense.