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Post by: warsmith pyrus
I'm wondering do you think that any of the characters that have dissapeared or was written out and you would either like to see them back or just explain why you liked the character.
Personaly for me it would have to be cypher the fallen angel.The reason I like him so much was his fluff (or the lack of it  ) but the rules he had were also godd and the model is still for sale on the GW website  (and I think he looks really cool the way he is posed)
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Post by: arinnoor
Bel'Akor the Dark Master. He is still a really cool model. He makes anual apperiances across where I play as daemon princes of different kinds. Now if only he had his rules back.
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Post by: The10thnazgul
Captain Cortez, A badass among badasses
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Post by: halonachos
I would go with cypher as well. I wanted to stick him with an IG army and use him against Death watch termies. To think I would've gone to the chaos side for just 1 guy.
But I couldn't get both his pack and sword to stick so I removed his pack and tried to get rid of the stub on his back that you attached the pack to.
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Post by: Deadshane1
Captain Invictus.
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Post by: Demogerg
Bjorn the Fell Handed
10,000 years old and still kickin ass
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Post by: Alpharius
Demogerg wrote:Bjorn the Fell Handed
10,000 years old and still kickin ass
Well, he probably WILL be reintroduced sometime this year, most likely...
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Post by: The Watcher
I dunno about old charachters, but I WOULD like to see a 'Horus Heresy' suppliment for apocalypse, complete with the primarchs as Legendary Units. That would be both awesome and broken.
But mostly awesome
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Post by: The Watcher
But the. Sniper/Rambo dode from the old Catachan codex was freakin sauce.
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Post by: The Watcher
But the. Sniper/Rambo dode from the old Catachan codex was freakin sauce.
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Post by: The Watcher
But the. Sniper/Rambo dode from the old Catachan codex was freakin sauce.
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Post by: JD21290
old one eye
red terror
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Post by: Elessar
If they count, Harlequin Solitaires!!!!!
Otherwise, everyone's favourite Grot, Makari, and the Ravager of Piscina, Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub, are up there with Cypher at the top of the list. Tho, having played since 2nd Ed, I can think of loads that either were, or should have been, special characters not present in the modern codexes...although I hear Al'Rahem and Chenkov are returning to the IG at least
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Post by: Alpharius
The Watcher wrote:I dunno about old charachters, but I WOULD like to see a 'Horus Heresy' suppliment for apocalypse, complete with the primarchs as Legendary Units. That would be both awesome and broken.
But mostly awesome
Sure!
Me too!
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Post by: Gwar!
JD21290 wrote:old one eye
red terror
I thought they had special rules? You can get them on the games Workshop websi... -Quiet Phuft of a Silenced Pistol-
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Post by: wilsmire
The Watcher wrote:But the. Sniper/Rambo dode from the old Catachan codex was freakin sauce.
From the IG talk he is coming back. But I would like to see Cypher and Asmodi come back around
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Post by: Commisar Wolfie
Definetly cypher. Im building up a choas fallen angels army and it would be sweet to have him in there. otherwise i will keep using his model as my chaos lord
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Nazdreg.
Should have been in the codex, we need a special warboss besides Ghazy.
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Post by: Gwar!
Orkeosaurus wrote:Nazdreg.
Should have been in the codex, we need a special warboss besides Ghazy.
Whats Wazdakka then? A daffodil?
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Gwar! wrote:Orkeosaurus wrote:Nazdreg.
Should have been in the codex, we need a special warboss besides Ghazy.
Whats Wazdakka then? A daffodil?
A Big Mek.
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Post by: Gwar!
Shush you.
It's funny actually. He's the same Strength as a Big Mek, but the same Toughness as a Warboss.
The Mind Boggles.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Even more boggling: Zogwort has Warboss toughness, but less Strength than a regular Warphead.
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Post by: Gwar!
And less ballistic skill rabble rabble! In reality, its because he is blind, and also to prevent him re-rolling to wound with his poisoned attacks against S5 models on the charge. Interesting thought on Frazzle and Zzap though. The Weirdboy Power Rules say he hits automatically, but the rules for BS 0 says they miss automatically. Since the rules in the codex do not mention it overriding that (its all well and good hitting automatically, but if you cannot ever actually hit anyway, it doesn't help) does that mean 3/6 weirdboy powers are bad/useless for Zogwort to roll on?
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Post by: Quintinus
Doomrider!
Duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh Doomrider!
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Post by: Gwar!
I have been summoned! I shall carve my enemies in the name of.... Oh Shi.... I rolled a 1.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Gwar! wrote:Interesting thought on Frazzle and Zzap though. The Weirdboy Power Rules say he hits automatically, but the rules for BS 0 says they miss automatically. Since the rules in the codex do not mention it overriding that (its all well and good hitting automatically, but if you cannot ever actually hit anyway, it doesn't help) does that mean 3/6 weirdboy powers are bad/useless for Zogwort to roll on?
Eh? It hits automatically. That, by definition, cancels out missing automatically, as something cannot both hit and miss at the same time.
(Also, he's probably S3 because he's old and lazy. Too much squiggin, not enough krumpin.)
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Post by: Gwar!
Orkeosaurus wrote:Gwar! wrote:Interesting thought on Frazzle and Zzap though. The Weirdboy Power Rules say he hits automatically, but the rules for BS 0 says they miss automatically. Since the rules in the codex do not mention it overriding that (its all well and good hitting automatically, but if you cannot ever actually hit anyway, it doesn't help) does that mean 3/6 weirdboy powers are bad/useless for Zogwort to roll on?
Eh? It hits automatically. That, by definition, cancels out missing automatically, as something cannot both hit and miss at the same time.
(Also, he's probably S3 because he's old and lazy. Too much squiggin, not enough krumpin.)
Thats one way of looking at it. I have a horrible feeling that my view on it is being skewed by my Magic: The Gathering playing (ya see, the second most important rule is if an effect says "you can do this" and another says "you can't do this" the "can't" always wins) but yeah, I suppose the effects still work regardless of BS0. And I already told you why he's S3, lrn2read n00b
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Gwar! wrote:And I already told you why he's S3, lrn2read n00b 
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Post by: He Who Stood
I want grizmund in the new codex, but alas no.
though Lord Solar Macharius would be awesome too
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
Agreed,lord solar Macharius would be cool but yet somehow I think we won't see him.
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Post by: He Who Stood
No, we wont. which really sucks. you'd think that if you retook more planets thatn any three commanders since the emporer himself walked the stars you'd be guaranteed a cool model and place in every codex
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Maybe he's too cool for the codex.
Like a primarch.
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Post by: General Mayhem
Moriar the chosen (Blood Angels Death Company Dreadnought) D6+2 Attacks (D6 +3 on the charge), 2D6+Strength (6) AP against vehicles, ignores crew shaken and stunned. Where is Moriar in the new (admitedly free but so rubbish you would not want to use it) Blood Angels Codex?
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Post by: NinjaPenguin
JD21290 wrote:old one eye
red terror
This. And maybe a new unique 'nid.
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Post by: Gwar!
Orkeosaurus wrote:Maybe he's too cool for the codex. Like a primarch.
Lord Solar Points: 0 No Statline. He's so awesome nothing can ever hurt him. At the beginning of the first player turn, roll 5D6. On a result of 5 or more you win the game automatically.
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Post by: Llamahead
Nork Deddog because the "Medikit is in the Character Sur" and also Makari just cos. (Actually Makari is the only Special character I've got painted).
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Post by: Paul Atreides
Makari and nazdreg. Those are all I can think of now.
And then there is always Yarlen fireblade. Yes I know I spelt it wrong.
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Post by: KingCracker
Gwar! wrote:Orkeosaurus wrote:Maybe he's too cool for the codex.
Like a primarch.
Lord Solar Points: 0
No Statline. He's so awesome nothing can ever hurt him.
At the beginning of the first player turn, roll 5D6. On a result of 5 or more you win the game automatically.
LMAO That sounds like something dumb I tell people I play before a game. Oooohhhh the memories
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Post by: Elessar
Njall Stormcaller. He was ignominously dropped, wasn't he? Don't have 'current' Wolves Codex, so I'm not sure, but I don't remember seeing him. Are Stumper Muckstart and Mogul Kamir in the new IG codex? Actually, forget Stumper, nobody cares abot Ratlings. Wolf Guards Durfast of Mordrak and Ranulf would be cool - pushing Land Raiders into lava streams to get across is pretty high on the Nork Deddog scale of practicality!
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Post by: CaptainRavenclaw
I'm looking forward to new IG special characters. Yarrick is cool and all, but what about some diversity!!
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Post by: Maj. Tom
Aun'shi, Mostly for his fluff (and his basic philosophy therein), but also because he has a kickass double sword/staff thing. Hes way more of an "inspiring presence" than some old fart on a grav-toilet.
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Post by: Ironhide
Wasn't there a DA vet scout SGT character in the 3rd edition codex? Vet Sgt Namaan, or something like that?
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Post by: Elessar
Ironhide wrote:Wasn't there a DA vet scout SGT character in the 3rd edition codex? Vet Sgt Namaan, or something like that?
Yeah, pretty sure he died during Ghazkhull n Nazdreg's invasion of Piscina...he gave his squad some sort of silenced bolt pistol I think? Probably best represented by making their pistols Pinning weapons now...although I imagine they wouldn't be much more useful...perhaps regular bolters, except then why not take a Sniper Rifle instead? Since the overwatch mechanic is being tested in Apoc, perhaps they could make Naaman a datasheet, with Pinning, Overwatching Bolters? That'd be pretty cool
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Post by: cadbren
Roboute Guilliman as an HQ choice for any codex marine force over 3000 pts. It would also make for interesting fluff to have him and Ventris debate military dogma.
If he did come back would he take over from Calgar or would he assume some role within the Adeptus Terra, maybe the High Council itself?
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Post by: n3koj1n
Characters I'd like to see?
Captain Cortez tops my list.
Love to see updated rules for Space Wolves, but only because I <3 Ragnar Blackmane.
But yeah, Cortez. He's the win.
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Post by: warsmith pyrus
I'm glad to see there was a good interest taken in this thread,keep the post comin'
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Post by: Brother Bartius
Bring back Eldrad. He's not around in enough Eldar armies as it stands.
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Post by: The Angry Commissar
the Blood Angels death company dreadnought, Moriar. i played him in 1 game by accident, and he survived 6 meltabombs (he was immobilized, but still 6!!!!)
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Post by: Exarch_Nektel
They should bring back Iyanna. Coolest invulsave ever.
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Post by: covenant84
Makari - I'd go back to the green skins for this little fella!
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Post by: Superscope
Hmmm.... hard to say what to bring back, cus i mainly play Tau.
I think they shouldn't just "abandon" some characters. Perhaps they should have a updated datasheet for them on the GW website?
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Post by: ixlar
wilsmire wrote:But I would like to see Cypher and Asmodi come back around
Yes yes yes yes. Both, please. I am still trying to get my hands on a Asmodi figure in good condition. He just looks so frickin' cool.
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Post by: warsmith pyrus
even if they don't bring back Doomrider they should at least finish his fluff I mean someone that awesome doesn't dissappear.
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Post by: Elessar
Can I suggest Arhra the Fallen Phoenix? Does he count as returning when he never had rules?
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Post by: Darksword
Who was that one Tau Ethereal? He seemed like a cool guy, eh led Tau instead of directing them, and doesn't afraid of anything.
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Post by: typhus
i agree doooomrider
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Post by: Ironhide
Darksword wrote:Who was that one Tau Ethereal? He seemed like a cool guy, eh led Tau instead of directing them, and doesn't afraid of anything.
Aun'Shi
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Post by: Tacobake
Exarch_Nektel wrote:They should bring back Iyanna. Coolest invulsave ever.
I like her and the Vyper guy although we have Yriel now.
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Post by: Nofasse 'Eadhunta
The Watcher wrote:But the. Sniper/Rambo dode from the old Catachan codex was freakin sauce.
He is back, he is now called Guardsman Marbo.
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Post by: Reecius
Solitaire all the way! Those guys were just so sick.
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Post by: The Watcher
Cool beans on Marbo. Why doesn't GW just publish a book of nothing but special characters, and release models to go with? I trhink something like that would sell like hotcakes. Or crack in the hood.
Can't wait to see the new Marbo statline/ fig. That dude smoked 7 Gray Knight termies by himself once, back when I was playing with codez catachans; he's a complete badass! Tho I only modeled a hand and a pistlo coming out of a base cobered with foliage.... Hopefully the model kicks.
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Post by: Nofasse 'Eadhunta
Awesome! A novel all about Calgar!
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Post by: garret
Njal stormcaller
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Post by: Shaman
doom rider pick is win
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Post by: Agemann1
Captain Agemann. (If he ever was released.)
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Post by: Goliath
Chaplain Xavier, I really like the model for some reason.
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Post by: ArbitorIan
Stumper Muckstart!!
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Post by: halonachos
I would like to see ciaphis cain made as a character.
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Post by: jack1995
Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:Awesome! A novel all about Calgar!
I really hope you are being sarcastic...
I think all the characters from gaunts ghosts.
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Post by: lordofthedead
Col. Shafer and Lt. Kage
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Post by: Marshal2Crusaders
Sigismund
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Post by: firebat
Doom Rider.
x1000000000
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Post by: Manchu
I'd like to see a Horus Heresy sourcebook
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Post by: Food Store Hero
I'm gonna go with Gaunt's Ghosts and Shaeffer's Last Chancers as groups. Also Cypher, Asmodai,.... and ah hell.. DOOM-ROYDAH'!
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Post by: Manchu
oh yeah, and of course
IYANNA!!!
although the resulting butthurt for DE players would be unimaginable
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Post by: Exarch_Nektel
Fireheart.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
The Warlock chick of Iyanden.
Also, of course, the EMPRAH!!!
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Post by: Manchu
If emprah returns, game is finished.
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Post by: Exarch_Nektel
Manchu wrote:If emprah returns, game is finished.
QFT
The cosmic Golden Toilet can't be beaten.
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Post by: Elessar
Kal Jericho.
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Post by: Dashofpepper
If Tyranids aren't going to get their own special characters, they should totally bring back Red terror and one eye.
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Post by: Lord of battles
The Watcher wrote:Why doesn't GW just publish a book of nothing but special characters, and release models to go with? I think something like that would sell like hotcakes. Or crack in the hood.
Ya and a character for every chaos legion giving them new legion rules like say Kharn gives +1 strength to all World Eaters models, and a new eldar saim-hann special character that gives all guardians a jetbike for free.
SWEEEEEET
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Post by: dirkthe1
thrud-in 40k.
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Post by: Jarran
Deff Dread red Edition wrote:Agreed,lord solar Macharius would be cool but yet somehow I think we won't see him.
Yeah i want him back too, since he "died mysteriously" they could always "revive him mysteriously" tbh though he needs to come back...
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Nah, Macharius would kind of be overkill. Only suited to be at the head of Apoc matches. But he's more likely to be dirrecting 20 of those Apoc matches than actually joining one. Being the Master Strategist he is.
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Post by: Golden Eyed Scout
Doom Rider.
HE DOES COCAINE!!!!!!
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Post by: hawkeye
DOOM RID
oh nevermind I rolled a 1.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Doom Rider model looks crap.
I think that chick on Iyanden, the spiritseer should be back.
Also, mabye a Wraithlord/guard character?
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Post by: ghosty
i wanna see tyranid characters back! like:
the big bad red terror (as a trygorn would be hot sauce)
the big bad old one eye (if anyone says "but you can make him with carnie kit ill kill em) -in model form thats huuge
and a gensetealer patriach (called stevie wonder)
these will never happen but....
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Post by: Dreadwinter
Doomrider
Cypher
Moriar
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Post by: Elessar
Emperors Faithful wrote:Nah, Macharius would kind of be overkill. Only suited to be at the head of Apoc matches. But he's more likely to be dirrecting 20 of those Apoc matches than actually joining one. Being the Master Strategist he is.
Crrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddddddddd!
Macharius would be nice to have in Apoc, in all seriousness. He'd be all liek, pick any 5 assets, free. Yep, any 5. Not even just Imperial, just 5. Win.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
AND, both him and his retinue could be mounted in an Emperor Class titan for free.
=WINWIN!!!
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Post by: Elessar
And his retinue is an entire regiment of Stormtroopers, for 10 points.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
=WINWINWIN!!! (big smile)
Also, he never loses. Even if his army is utterly anihilated, dead-or-not Macharius' fleet blows the crap out of the planet, so the best you can hope for is a draw.
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Post by: tobi-nid-guy
I know he has never had a model but
HORUS!  !  !  !  !  !
I mean who wouldnt want to feild him in a chaos army.
He almost killed the empra.
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Post by: The Angry Commissar
i want to see Moriar the Death Company Dred come back for the BA.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Yeah, or at least a Death Company carachter akin to Kharn who, no matter how hard he tries, never EVER dies!
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