Hi Guys (and Gals if you're actually out there )

Ok, so I hate the GW assassins range.....is hate too strong a statement? actually no, it isn't, but I can't think of a stronger term to phrase my dislike!

So, I want to throw a little competition out there for anyone who feels the same way as me and would like to do something about it.

Basically, I would like to gether some design ideas for a new Assassin model. The design doesn't need to follow the rules for the GW Assassin temples directly, but it should definately be Sci-Fi. I'm not bothered if its male or female, but the if it is going to be female, then, while respecting the female form, lets not have any Bikini killers

I'll let this run until the end of May, at which point I will select the best design!

"WHATS THE PRIZE" I hear you scream!!!

The winning design will be passed on to a sculptor, and actually made into a miniature!!!! The winner will get a copy of the sculpted miniature...so one for me, and one for you! Including the postage costs to where-ever you may be in the world.

So, just post your designs here, and lets see where this crazy ride takes us. Please bear in mind that the winning design WILL be made into a miniature, so include as much information as possible.

Cheers chaps, let the games begin!

Sounds cool!

How do you want us to present the design? Draw it? Design it on the computer?

I think this sounds awesome. I'll have to get working...

would a maya model be ok?

Oops just read it again ><

Hi Guys

I'll leave the format completely up to the designers. What-ever you feel comfortable using as a medium.

The only "restrictions", if you can call them that, are the following:

1. It has to be obviously Sci Fi
2. The designs, no matter what the medium, need to be readily transferable to 3D by a sculptor.

Thats it guys....no stop the yapping, go play already

Will do. When's the deadline?

Cool idea, I am looking forward to watching this go from concept to finished product!

Perhaps it's too much like the current GW miniatures, but I created some possible concept art for the Assassin. Probably not nearly as good as anyone else, but here goes:



Quick clarification, to the left hand side towards the bottom a bit, would be like a jet/jump pack sort of device, for quick escapes and whatnot.

Do you want it to be reflect any certain temple? Or can we make up our own? I have a few ideas that I want to try out, and I'd like to know what you want before I draw anything down.

greenskin lynn wrote:would a maya model be ok?

Huh?

Goliath wrote:

greenskin lynn wrote:would a maya model be ok?

Huh?

Maya's a computer imaging software program.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_(software)

Guys

I don't want to restrict your creative juices by giving you a design brief thats to claustrophobic!

I'm not too concerned with the temple you chose, especially since every miniature that has been created to represent the WH40K temples is in fact, rubbish!

Anyway, enough talk, more pictures...this thread should be like a gallery by now

DELEPHONT: Any limit on number of entries per person?

Sounds interesting. I might give it a whirl.

Meph

No limit on entries, of course not. I'm basically after as many designs as possible to get the best miniature possible made!

Good luck guys.

Delephont: Further clarifications: You mentioned that the "type" of assassin matters not. Is it your intent to have the proposed winning model stand in for any of the assassin models in a 40k game? Should the entries have a GW flavour to them, or can they be totally off the wall?

Wow, you guys have you never heard of design freedom?

Ok, here is the definative design brief, please don't make me write this again, it hurts my brain

1. The design has to be clear and concise, as a miniature will be sculpted deirectly from the design. So not rough sketches, or abstract scrawlings...if the design can not be interpreted directly into sculpted medium, its no good.

2. The miniature has to be clearly "FUTURISTIC", and has to capture the theme of an assassin.

3. The miniature does not have to represent any of the established WH40K temples, but if the designer so choses, it can.

4. There is no limit to the number of designs that are submitted by any one designer, as long as each design respects points 1. to 3.

5. The closing date is the end of may, at which time I will pick the best design, although I reserve the right to close the competition without selecting any of the designs (example: if the only submitted design is of a one eared, viking dwarf, with an axe! )

6. The designer may use any medium or design technique, so long as it adheres to points 1. to 3.

7. Finally; the prize! The winning design, will have his or her design committed to sculpt, paid for by me! The sculptor will produce two of the same sculpt, one will be for my use and the other will go to the winning designer!

(note: no casts will be made of the sculpt, for public sale or other uses without the prior agreement between myself (commissioner) and the designer (commissioned artist), who will both share the rights to the final product. The final product may vary slightly from the actual design, as the sculptor makes the final adjustment from 2D concept to 3D sculpture)

Now, lets start drawing guys! If there is a need for any further clarification of points, please pm me directly, as I would like, if possible, to keep this thread clear for designs only.

Thanks, and once again, good luck!

Quick question, is my submitted picture okay?

Here's my first design. It was for a cybernetic assassin, but never got to be used for anything. It predates the contest, but it's never been used for anything, and has been kept in storage for something like this. I have a few more of these, if you would like to see them.

Only if it has a special rule where they cannot target farseers.

But sounds interesting, may get off my arse and submit something too

If we all really like the winner can we plead/beg/bribe you to sell more copies?

H.B.M.C. wrote:If we all really like the winner can we plead/beg/bribe you to sell more copies?

That would require both the winner and Delephont to agree to production and selling the model.

@ Vladsimpaler

Your submission was fine, keep em coming.

@ Fafnir

Dude, that design is rocking, I could see that in miniature form! If you have more, just keep posting....the more the merrier!

@ H.B.M.C

Nothing is ruled out, especially if there is a large amount of interest. However, the decision to "mass produce" would have to be between the designer and myself in agreement.

Cheers

Delephont wrote:Hi Guys

I'll leave the format completely up to the designers. What-ever you feel comfortable using as a medium.

The only "restrictions", if you can call them that, are the following:

1. It has to be obviously Sci Fi
2. The designs, no matter what the medium, need to be readily transferable to 3D by a sculptor.

Thats it guys....no stop the yapping, go play already

If the sculptor is using a digitizer that shouldn't be a problem and those digitizers have been around for at least 15 years..

-_- I so need a tablet

Ok. I'm in. Where's that darn sketchpad?

This one's completely robotic, and similar to my previous entry, a drawing of something that never got to be used for anything, saved away for something useful.

It was originally supposed to be a mech, hence the interior description of a 'cockpit,' but otherwise, would fit an assassin perfectly.

And yes, the sword is a giant electrical plug.

Fafnir

I'm liking the style of your designs.

This is such a great idea, going to let a couple of my friends know so they can enter.

Delephont, will you chose the winning design or will you do a vote of some sort?

Here is my design for a power close combat assassin!

Here is a second design from me:



The X3-PL "Lurker" is a mecha that can take on a variety of roles. Designed primarily for stealth assassinations of human targets, this is a vicious killing machine. It has also proved to be excellent at infiltration/surveillance work and has also found use as a trap; waiting underground until troops pass which it will quickly rip through.

My last entry:



This should be used to represent a vindicare assassin, just add sniper rifle!

Here a (very) rough sketch of an idea.
basically a member of some assasin cult, who is stripped down to virtually no armor relying on speed and stealth. the legs however are cybernetically inhanced for inclreased agility, and also give the ability to jump extremely high and land safely from extreme falls, as well as enhancing the assasins speed.

EDIT: rough indeeed:
[img=http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4342/proto2.th.jpg]

Technoscream, you a sketchup user too?

or am I sadly mistaken?

I remember using sketchup to design a house once. It's not a horrible program, but I'd never use it to make a robot.

Love 3DSmax though. Technoscream, you should look into trying max out, it's an excellent program.

Anyway, I think I'll draw up one or two more entries, just to get as many ideas out as I can.

EDIT: Another old picture from the annals of the forgotten sketchbook (it's a good thing I save pictures for later).

A more techno ghostly assassin for you. He's less mechanical then the previous entries, but more... creepy. Also, he's supposed to have wires coming out of his back that aren't in this picture. If this design gets nominated, I'll obviously have to draw a few more views of this guy, since his design is a bit complex.

And yes, his right hand is a little screwed up. I drew him when I was kind of half-asleep, so he ended up with two left hands. I tried to fix it as best I could, but his thumb is still... weird. This design ended up leading up to another character's design, which if you want, I can also show you.

You guys who said Sketchup guessed right! I love that program!

Hmm. Decided to ressurect this thread with some more preliminary design sketches.

basically my assasin would represent a cult formed by the adeptus mechanus, made to protect their interests in various ways. Because the inquisition has no monopoly on corruption
(yes, i realize he isn't finished. and the tube thing down the middle is screwed up too.)

anyway, this thread needs to liven up! feel free to ask about the design or comment on it. After all, we all want a mind-blowing miniature in the end.

Nyahahaha... no female assassins yet! I am the first! Trying to bring sexy back to the Officio Assassinorum.

Nice inking. Thing is, whenever I see a futuristic chick, I can't help but think of Ghost in the Shell. Of course, that's not a bad thing, it was a wonderful movie, but its a slightly unsettling feeling.

Keezus's post pretty well puts my to shame.

anyway, another submission: the inquisitor's pet freak

Here's another portfolio piece for you. He has probably the scariest face the imperium would ever see, and damn, he probably uses it well.

wow Fafnir all ur assasins have a very Fewter look to them , me like o_o

Well, they're all works that either were originally for use in my portfolio, or for projects that either never got started, or were dumped. I just figured that they're still all some really nice designs that deserve to be given life somehow.

But... um... what does fewter mean?

Fewture models , they are famous for incredible resins , now n.american have commissioned them
to make lots of n.american stuff ( mainly movies and comics )

Well guys, sorry for not being more active on my own thread! It was, shall we say, a busy weekend

I can tell you all now, there are some obvious contenders for the win right here already!!

@ Fafnir

Dude, you are knocking out some amazing concepts, I really like the look and feel of your designs. My only worry, is that the concepts don't have enough detailed views for direct handover to a sculptor. That means that if one of your concepts were chosen, and you accepted (of course) you'd have to get to work producing more views etc.

Don't take this too personally, everyone is currently making that mistake. This is the difference between a stunning illustration and a model design.

@ Keezus

Your female assassin is a top contender as well, I like the style of the design and the content. The character would be at home in many different settings (Infinity, WH40K, etc) and that adds to her appeal. The design isn't too cluttered, and you've maintained the "humanity" of the figure. I could see that design getting produced by someone like Werner Klocke....in short, it would rock!

@ Technoscream

Funnily enough, I love the snake idea. Its clean, simple, and gets the point across. Its also nothing like what I imagined for this "contest" so it really blind-sided me to see that. Excellent stuff.

@ Fiendcracker

Hmm, again, interesting concepts. I like the idea of a Mechanicus assassin....I never thought of that, and I'm sure the Mechanicus has its fair share of dirty work that needs doing! I'm not sure what to make of the Inquisitors pet? I could see someting like that spawning from the minds of the Forge World staff it would look amazing in resin! However, I'm wondering if its a step too far outside the realm of stealthy assassin.....more like a henchman, hired muscle, mutant type affair.

@ Everyone

I want to thank everyone who has taken part so far, and posted they're designs and sketches. If I had the money, looking at the designs that are there, I'd probably go for more than one of these designs, and who knows, with the artists permission, maybe more than one could be produced over time.

Please keep the designs coming, and please feel free to throw in any fluff that helps to describe your ideas (not mandatory, of course!)

Thanks again guys. Great work!

keezus wrote:

Nyahahaha... no female assassins yet! I am the first! Trying to bring sexy back to the Officio Assassinorum.

should she have hair?

Hair just gets in the way fool.
Hair can get grabbed or tangled while retreating.

hair is bad m'kay?

Delephont wrote:
@ Fafnir

Dude, you are knocking out some amazing concepts, I really like the look and feel of your designs. My only worry, is that the concepts don't have enough detailed views for direct handover to a sculptor. That means that if one of your concepts were chosen, and you accepted (of course) you'd have to get to work producing more views etc.

I'd be more then happy to do other views of my designs, and were any of them chosen, I'd begin drawing alternate views of the selected design right away. I'd do it from the get go, but quite frankly, the designs I've submitted are quite complex and require a lot of work to get right, I just want to make sure that what I'm doing is what will be used before I do any of it.

If you want to see the quality of my final blueprints, here's a blueprint to final model comparison, and how they translate:




Of course, those aren't for entry in the contest. Unless you really wanted them to. However, if you did, I would have to retain full rights to the design and model, since I intend to use them on future projects, as oppossed to the 50/50 that you suggest. This is just an example of my blueprint work. Not really fitting of the idea of an assassin either.

Don't take this too personally, everyone is currently making that mistake. This is the difference between a stunning illustration and a model design.

No worries. For what I want to do with my (hopefully) future career, I need to be able to do both, and I need the practice for that.

I think I have a serious shot to win this one!

I'm not sure whether that's funny or insulting.

Then again, most things that are funny are likely to offend some people, so I will admit that it's not horrible, and some slight lulz were had. Although it was overall quite lame.

Dude, if you couldn't tell that was a joke, you need to adjust your sense of humor.

If you need the ego stroking which it seems you do, I think you art is great, and not lame at all.

And how could you possibly think that was insulting? As if I thought mine was in any way better than yours or any of the other awesome art that people have posted? Come on buddy, have a little more self confidence, geez! Mine is meant to be stupid!

I am still laughing at my own stupid picture, at least that is someone!

Reecius wrote:Dude, if you couldn't tell that was a joke, you need to adjust your sense of humor.

The thing is, jokes are supposed to be funny.

If you need the ego stroking which it seems you do, I think you art is great, and not lame at all.

And how could you possibly think that was insulting? As if I thought mine was in any way better than yours or any of the other awesome art that people have posted? Come on buddy, have a little more self confidence, geez! Mine is meant to be stupid!

Stupid isn't always funny. It's also a matter of taste. The thing about a joke is that it needs to be legitimatly funny, and when it's not, it's nothing more then an insult. I understand that it's a joke, and I understand where it's coming from, but it was made in poor taste.

Simply put, unfunny joke is unfunny. I'm not saying that your joke was legitimatly offensive. It was just lame.

Hahaha, holy crap, you are mad.

Well you know what, I apologize. You are a very good artist, and I am not, which I thought would be obvious by my very bad two minute microsoft paint assassin. I didn't think there was any way anyone would take that thing seriously!

How this offends you still bewilders me but obviously this competition means a lot to you and I had no intentions of uspeting anyone. I had hoped to brighten some peoples' day as they scrolled thorugh the great pictures then came to my crappy one and busted out laughing.

I still think its really funny, but you obviously do not. So again, sorry to upset you, that was not the intention.

Good luck in the competition.

typhus wrote:

keezus wrote:

Nyahahaha... no female assassins yet! I am the first! Trying to bring sexy back to the Officio Assassinorum.

should she have hair?

I think the idea of a female sniper would be based around the fact that she wouldn't let her femininity get in the way of combat effectiveness. I think the model could also feature breasts that have been held down with banding, or whatever.

One point: I think the armor plating should be on the opposite leg, since that's the leg that's going to be "forward" in a kneeling firing stance. I think having that side of her chest and shoulder also be armored would add to the "realism" factor as well.

Trouble is, you have to be a really good sculptor (better than GW's, anyway) to pull of a face that's good looking and is obviously a woman without hair. I mean, we do want her to be good looking, right?

Anyway, Fafnir and Reecius, your argument is really stupid. I don't really even quite know how that got heated, but it shouldn't have. Reecius, I thought your drawing was hilarious, and shouldn't have sparked any debate besides one about whether the "I just spat X on my keyboard" meme is still funny. Fafnir, I thought your art was really good, although slightly less after your lame post about Reecius's art.

But let's move along, shall we?

Reecius wrote:Dude, if you couldn't tell that was a joke, you need to adjust your sense of humor.

If you need the ego stroking which it seems you do, I think you art is great, and not lame at all.

And how could you possibly think that was insulting? As if I thought mine was in any way better than yours or any of the other awesome art that people have posted? Come on buddy, have a little more self confidence, geez! Mine is meant to be stupid!

I am still laughing at my own stupid picture, at least that is someone!

For what it's worth I appreciated it =)

See now I want a little ninja dude with a knife and an AK.

a laser AK at that!

anyway, got the final rendition of the Mechanis assassin:

Thanks, I am glad someone got a chuckle out of it!

But seriously, you guys are all very good artists, and I have enjoyed watching the entries come in.

@ Reecius

I did realise you were joking, and on a thread like this, public domain, its clear that at some point, someone was going to do what you did. I think the down side with that type of thing, if you can call it a downside, is that some people are taking this rather more seriously (me included) so its bound to rub some poeple up the wrong way.

Imagine how the formula 1 drivers would feel if they're tearing around the track trying to win the drivers championship, and then, popping out the pit lanes comes a Nissan Bluebird....just for laughs! Its not a case of people having a lack humour, they're just focused on achieving a different goal, as opposed to "having a laugh".....in the end, no harm done.

Anyway, the subject has been given enough air time, so I shall move on.

@ Fiendcracker

I really like that Mechanicus assassin. I actually think something like that would, like the female assassin, and the work being submitted by Fafnir, would achieve a great crossover and still be "current" for WH40K. I'm surprised GW haven't considered this themselves......

@ Willydstyle

I like the suggestions you made about the female Assassin, I think that those additions would make the character even more edgy and would certainly make the figure a very desirable piece! The attention to detail, which admittedly, I missed, and I'm talking about the leg armour location, would make this figure a sure fire hit.....now, is the artist willing to make those mods?

@ Fafnir

I figured that the designs could be elaborated on, if needs be, I guess I was just making sure as opposed to simply assuming (hoping) that would be the case

I had no idea this is your intended career path, so good luck on all counts!

Delephont wrote:@ Willydstyle: I like the suggestions you made about the female Assassin, I think that those additions would make the character even more edgy and would certainly make the figure a very desirable piece! The attention to detail, which admittedly, I missed, and I'm talking about the leg armour location, would make this figure a sure fire hit.....now, is the artist willing to make those mods?

The single armored leg was intended to accomodate kneeling. In my mind, I decided that resting the elbow of the firing arm on the raised knee might aid stability in the event that the bipod could not be used. However, as I have no experience operating fire-arms, I will have to defer to others with more experience - Swapping it to the other leg if the design is chosen is no biggie.

Delephont wrote:
I'm surprised GW haven't considered this themselves......

Vindicare Assasin reporting... Never know what hit them

@ Lunahound

Is that your work? I hope that didn't come across as patronising, as it surely wasn't intended to be....but then, where have you been hiding this?

Its....brilliant. Ok, its simple, but thats also what I love about it! The design is fresh, clear, it looks proffessional....too pro. I hope this isn't a joke and its scanned in from GW or something

I like the two head options (that would translate to sculpt! ) well done...excellent work.

@Delephont no its not mine.

I wont be able to do anything similar to that till
i get tablet of some sort.

All i know is he go to 4chan alot on weekends and take on drawing requests ( free, and he finishes them in 30 mins or less ). He refer to himself as "Drawfag" er sorry but thats what he calls himself.

*Edit he is mostly known for his active work such as: "40k version of slowpoke ( yes pokemon lol " and " Love can bloom ( story of Vindicare assasin + Taldeer , infact she is the one in my siggy ) "

Ha ha....#yoda like voice inside my head# "trust your instincts, always, to the right design, they will lead you!"

@ Lunahound

No worries, that design would have been a contender, definately up there with my favorites....however, alas, it will never be

Delephont wrote:

I had no idea this is your intended career path, so good luck on all counts!

Well, character design for videogames, hopefully. Although, I wouldn't mind working in film or commercials, although my designs are obviously focussed more towards games.

Also, Delephont, as for Luna's posted design, perhaps you could try and contact drawfag on 4chan... if you're willing to risk losing your sanity on there.

Drawfag is a general term for artists who take requests on 4chan....

...just the thought of 4chan makes me shudder.

Fiendcrackar! wrote:Drawfag is a general term for artists who take requests on 4chan....

...just the thought of 4chan makes me shudder.

so i herd you leik mudkipz...

Eversor with Neural Gauntlet



@Fafnir: If you're gunning to be an illustrator / designer - best of luck. If you got in, you'd be living my dream. Unfortunately, reality punched me in the face and I gave up on that dream years ago.

@Luna: Tablets are cheap, if you're not picky about getting the best. You can pick up an entry level one for the cost of a superheavy! I have an old Graphire, but I don't use it.

-edit- I know the right elbow is totally screwed up. I inked the wrong lines and wasn't able to fix it.

keezus wrote:
@Fafnir: If you're gunning to be an illustrator / designer - best of luck. If you got in, you'd be living my dream. Unfortunately, reality punched me in the face and I gave up on that dream years ago.

Well, could you inform me why and reality punched you in the face? I'd like to know so I could have the best chance possible. I mean, I'd consider your drawings at the very least comparable if my own, and much more refined, with some great inking, so I'd like to know what setbacks you faced.

Keezus can i play with your assasin in photoshop?

keezus wrote:

Delephont wrote:@ Willydstyle: I like the suggestions you made about the female Assassin, I think that those additions would make the character even more edgy and would certainly make the figure a very desirable piece! The attention to detail, which admittedly, I missed, and I'm talking about the leg armour location, would make this figure a sure fire hit.....now, is the artist willing to make those mods?

The single armored leg was intended to accomodate kneeling. In my mind, I decided that resting the elbow of the firing arm on the raised knee might aid stability in the event that the bipod could not be used. However, as I have no experience operating fire-arms, I will have to defer to others with more experience - Swapping it to the other leg if the design is chosen is no biggie.

When you're kneeling to fire a long-gun (prone is the most stable position, but a kneel can be set up quickly, and you can get up quickly, it's more convenient) you're more concerned about stabilizing the barrel than the trigger, so the elbow of the hand stabilizing the barrel is resting on your forward knee, your rear knee is on the ground, and your trigger-hand elbow is tucked in as close to your side as possible. Inhale deeply, exhale half a breath, then squeeze. The bipod would be used when the sniper has enough time to set up a prone position. But in the kneeling position I just described, the leg opposite the trigger-hand-side is the leg that is forward and exposed to your target, so it makes the most sense to armor that one!

...well then... maybe she's left handed! NYAAAAH!

But the rifle has a right-handed scope mounted on it and she's holding it in her right hand

@Luna: Please do, by all means!

@Fafnir: First off, it is not my intent to on your aspirations with my post of doom and gloom, as the situation is markedly different now than it was back when I was looking to do the art thing. Here's a summary of the differences:

1. The video game market was not nearly as developed. This was back in the heyday of sprite based graphics and the Super Nintendo was king and the PS1 was just beginning to move in on its turf. As such, there wasn't the same sort of call for concept work in video games as there is now. I was more focused on comics. Image Comics were approaching their peak and people were feverishly buying up any gak they were putting out.
2. Anime had not gained widespread acceptance and was still very fringe. People drawing with a Japanese influenced style were looked at as huge nerds with an "unmarketable artstyle". Little did they know that we were merely ahead of our time!
3. There was no developed educational path for this profession. The best you could do was take fine art or commercial design.
4. The internet was in its infancy, so self-taught blokes like myself couldn't share/steal techniques from others.

I also attended a bunch of medium to medium-large conventions and did the portfolio thing. This was an eye opener, as there were literally hordes of other people doing the same thing. Judging by the level of the competition, I -knew- I wouldn't hire me, not without a lot of training. I had (and still have) a lot of weaknessess. I can't do colour work. My posing is generally weak, and my application of posture, while mechanically sound, is unnatural. I am bad when forced to redraw the same thing over and over, as I have trouble staying on model. Even -with- a lot of training, there was no guarantee that I'd be employed, and if I was employed, there was no guarantee that I'd have job security. So, basically, I was faced with the decision whether to take a chance and stake it all on a fine art / commercial design career path, or take the safe path, and get a professional degree. I took the professional degree. To this day, I do feel some regret over the path not taken. Considering how much I've improved through observation and self-refinement of my craft on an informal basis over the last 10+ years (I was much more rubbish when I was forced to make that fateful decision), sometimes I wonder what might have been if I actually had some training.

I'll leave you with the following quote by Calvin Coolidge: "Press on: nothing in the world can take the place of perseverance. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent."

Well if it's any consolation, I like your assassin best, and have merely been putting my input in to make a good design ever-so-slightly better

What exactly is 4Chan? is this a website, whenever I do a websearch I get porn .....which isn't a bad thing necessarily, just not what I'm looking for right now!

Delephont wrote:What exactly is 4Chan? is this a website, whenever I do a websearch I get porn .....which isn't a bad thing necessarily, just not what I'm looking for right now!

IF YOU DONT KNOW KEEP IT THAT WAY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

ALSO I LIEK MUDKIPS!

4chan is an 'image board': essentially a forum but with a lot more focus on posting images. It has sections for a lot of different categories: General, Video games, Tabletop gaming, etc. It also has a lot of adult material.

That's the nice unbiased description. Personally, I've looked at 4chan and it's the ultimate manifestation of Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap. The 'good stuff' that occasionally gets reposted here seems to be buried under piles of poorly done motivational posters, lolcats, and miscellaneous garbage. The regulars have a strange sense of entitlement: They tend to be quite unwilling to set any limits on what is acceptable to make fun of and seem to enjoy offending people. They (either specific sections or the entire thing) have been called "the cancer that is destroying the internet."

On the plus side they tend to annoy scientologists, which is kind of amusing and deserved.

Delephont wrote:What exactly is 4Chan? is this a website, whenever I do a websearch I get porn .....which isn't a bad thing necessarily, just not what I'm looking for right now!

It is a horrible, horrible web board filled with ADD riddled, gramatically broken, webspeak posts, terrible internet memes and lots of questionable material (IMO, 98% of 4chan is NSFW). Just think of it as a completely no-holds-barred, crack fueled OT board split into basic categories constrained by little to no moderation. Yes. A very scary place indeed.

NSFW? Thats a tame description.

4chan is NSFAWELENTWSLITF (Not Safe For Anyone Who Ever Lived Eever Nor Those Who Shall Live In The Future)

Reecius - As with Neconilis - I also appreciated your humor. Still laughing even though I have to go back and do ever so exciting environmental work.

4chan... is filled with people like... ME! ( well i go there often )

but ... seriousely i see it as "human's display of their true nature"

which is indeed pretty ugly.

Bad things aside there are lots of nice sections.

/a/ = anime
/c/ = all things cute
/ck/ = food and cooking ( yes they can cook o_o)
/tg/ = filled with mostly 40k , or RPG people
/m/= mecha

Areas to avoid:

/B/ = This is where on the news they say "4chan is the anus of internet"
the people that goes to /b/ is proud to be the anus and will do their best
to keep it that way. They post variety of pictures that covers almost every type
of fear there are, and can easily traumatize you. ( well traumatized me before, cant you tell? o_o.... )

Hey Keezus, do you use a drawling tablet for your illistrations?

Seems like most art is done on computers and tablets, or at least professionally done art is.

Reecius wrote:

Contest is closed! WE HAVE A WINNAH!

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

Here is another idea- a full assassin android. The only thing I am really iffy about is the head.


What's scarier then a ninja? a robotic space ninja, that's what!

Fiendcrackar! wrote:Here is another idea- a full assassin android. The only thing I am really iffy about is the head.


What's scarier then a ninja? a robotic space ninja, that's what!

Reminds me of that assassin droid from one of the N64 starwars games.

Fiendcrackar! wrote:Hey Keezus, do you use a drawling tablet for your illistrations?

I'm an oldschool pen and paper guy. I haven't been able to overcome the disconnect with a tablet where I'm not actually looking at the stylus, but viewing the screen.

You know guys, I'm liking alot of the stuff thats coming out....but I gotta say, the one thats really sticking in my mind is the female Assassin from Keezus.

@ Keezus

I liked you second offering as well, the Eversor assassin, lets just say it blows away the G-Dub version!! I'd love to see a more simple version of a female assassin though....now I'm not saying I'd like you to copy the picture that Lunahound posted, because that would be an insult to your own style and work, but I wonder if you could capture that simplicity without losing that edginess you zapped us with in the first sketch?

So, I take it Delephont wants an assassin with a womanly touch?

Well, I've been wanting to draw something in a similar vein to Ghost in the Shell for a while...

Perhaps naked with stealth cloaks lol. Or maybe not.

@ Fafnir

LOL....no not necessarily, although WH40K is in serious need of a womans touch one of the main reasons that Keezus's style sticks out is because of the clarity and boldness of his designs. They give you a one hit, clear impression of what the final product could look like, while fulfilling the brief.

Your designs look great, but at the moment, they don't leave an imprint on my mind probably simply due to the fact that they don't jump out of the screen at me. Maybe if you could find the time to darken in those lines, maybe get them on screen a bit clearer rather than a scan from your sketch book, this might help me see the rich potential that I think is contained in the designs......but of course thats your call.

I only have one on hand right now that I can actually darken, if I get a pen. Not very good at inking though. Anyway, I'll see what I can do.

I really like how this one turned out, though Keezus' is still probably better.

heres my entry......


















you never see an assasin....... XD

Oooh very clever.

heh heh heh

keezus wrote:Eversor with Neural Gauntlet

I give the win to this for the time. Simple, no-nonsense design, nothing crazy to add to being detected, an elegant pistol and a face smashing fist if needed. Very nice.

I love that Eversor, but IMHO the pistol could use a tad bit o work. Dont get me wrong, that Eversor looks totally badass. The pistol looks like it came from Buck Rodgers tho. It just feels...off.

Another reason why I like Keezus' Vindicare better is the Inquisition symbol on the shoulderpad. The eversor is missing any detail that would really tie it into the 40k universe.

Well, thing is that assassins shouldn't be able to be traced. Especially someone like the Eversor, who's likely to leave a body(or... the smouldering remains of one) behind in more dangerous missions. To have an assassin who couldn't be traced is very important.

Fafnir wrote:Well, thing is that assassins shouldn't be able to be traced. Especially someone like the Eversor, who's likely to leave a body(or... the smouldering remains of one) behind in more dangerous missions. To have an assassin who couldn't be traced is very important.

Why? The Imperium uses the Officio Assasinorum as a tool of fear to keep the nobility in line. When someone is obviously assassinated, they WANT people to know who did it, and when they're used as part of a military campaign (as would be when an assassin is on a 40k battlefield) I don't think they'd care much.

I can see imperial assassins as indoctrinated super psychos who wouldn't be able to think without saying a prayer over their lucky aquilla belt buckle and counting out a string of prayers on their holy inquisition rosary, etc.

The way the imperium deals with things I think they want everyone to know who punched the targets ticket. Keep that fear and intimidation as a deterrent tactic chugging along it's imperial course. So in the case of an eversor they would want the explosion to leave as many bits that say "the inquisition marked this target for death" as they could.

On the other hand, each inquisitor is given some freedom as to how they protect and purge, so it makes perfect sense that some would use stealth assassins that would not reveal their agenda, even in death. The kind that don't want anyone to know the inquisition was involved, just let them think it was a random act of violence. I'm sure the imperium is rife with internal conflict among government officials, business and planatary organizations, etc., including the use of assassins. So your interpretation sounds equally reasonable/good. Either way, I like your eversor better as a basic assassin model.

Anyway, I have my submission finished, just need to scan it at work tomorrow so I can throw it up here. I did a different take on a callidus.

Great entries from everyone so far. It's a nice take to see the different ideas and concepts that have come up.

Meph

There are some nice minis by other manufacturers that make good assassins for 40k (if your store or local club isn't dead-set against you committing the gaming heresy of using non-GW minis).

The karakuri for the Yu-jing faction of Infinity by Corvus Belli are very nice for anthropomorphic bots.

There are a few other designs that are also quite useful.

Well, I think the Credit Crunch beating blank sheet by IRpurple automatically wins my vote. I imagine the miniature will be cheap as chips to make....and in this case, if anyone wants a copy just let me know, I'll send you one!

@ Chromedog

Oh yes, there are loads of Infinity miniatures that would make a super assassin, and other brands as well. However, I wanted to keep the door open for using this anywhere, any place, any time....which means, it needs to be scratch built and therefore beyond the evil pointing GW finger.

As for the obvious Inquisition markings. Well, theres a few things there, technically, according to GW I.P the sculptor would be breaking the law by sculpting that symbol onto the shoulder pad, or anywhere on any chosen entry, so even though the graphic shows the symbol, the actual piece would come without it.

@ Vladsimpaler

Nice entry, interesting pose, and idea.

Reecius wrote:I think I have a serious shot to win this one!

you can all start blaming reecius again. This is just insultingly funny i had to laugh!

EDIT: omg, reecius has competition with IRPurple's work.

Here is my entry.
The neural shredder would have to be on her hip(out of sight in this pic). The hair and the icon would probobly have to move slighty due to casting requirements as well.

Appearently my assasin was so dead killy that it killed off the entire thread ...

I think it's the bulge in your Lady Assassins Pants that killed it off. But yeah, +1 for Bumpage and Update wanted from OP Plz!

Hmmm .. it didn't look that way when I drew it but now that you say that it kind of does look like a bulge ... damn inquisition gave me a shemalassassin. DOH!

I'm kind of sick, but I think I'll get to work penning in one of my submissions today or tomorrow.

Wasn't this supposed to be over in May? Or has Delephont jumped ship on the competition?

Update:

Hi Peeps.

No I haven't jumped ship on this, but my "sculptor" has. All this means is that I need to find a new sculptor and quick smart....

The "comp" was supposed to run until the end of May, so there is still time to show what you got. Plus I'm gonna need that time to find a replacement sculptor....so if anyone knows of a reliable, and cost effective sculptor then please let me know.

EDIT:
TADA! Here we go, the penned product. Not very good at penning, but it should give a better idea of how it actually looks.



Oh, scanner's dirty because my sister's a pig. Can't do much about that.

@ Fafnir

Thats a nice piece of art. I really like the concept. Its a complete departure from what I actually had in mind, by that I mean, there is little "humanity" in this concept.....which is not necessarily a bad thing.

Mattlov wrote:

keezus wrote:Eversor with Neural Gauntlet

I give the win to this for the time. Simple, no-nonsense design, nothing crazy to add to being detected, an elegant pistol and a face smashing fist if needed. Very nice.

i must say i give that 4 a win its a great design (fafnir in second )