I am an excellent Painter, and converter of figures if you would like your models painted either ones you currently have or new ones you buy from bit kingdom I can help.
For a small Fee Single Figures from
3$ Squads from 8$ Armies from 40$ and up.
Depending on how many items. Choose your colors below and let me know.

All 40 Citadel Color paints,

Sunburst Yellow, Gobling Green,
Golden Yellow, Scorpion Green,
Blazing Orange, Rotting Flesh,
Blood Red, Camo Green,
Red Gore, Catachan Green,
Scab Red, Graveyard Earth,
Dark flesh, Scorched Brown,
Dwarf Flesh, Bestial brown
Elf Flesh, Vermin Brown
Liche Purple, Snakebite Leather,
Warlock Purple, Desert Yellow,
Regal Blue, Bubonic Brown,
Ultramarines Blue, Vomit Brown,
Enchanted Blue, Kommando Khaki,
Shadow grey, Bleached Bone,
Space wolves Grey, Fortress Grey,
Ice Blue, Codex Grey,
Hawk Turquoise, Chaos Black,
Dark Angels Green, Skull White,
Snot Green, 'Ardcoat (Gloss Varnish).

All 18 Foundation paints, including:
Iyanden Darksun, Macharius Solar Orange,
Astronomican Grey. Mechrite Red,
Tau Sept Ochre, Calthan Brown,
Khemri Brown, Tallarn Flesh,
Dheneb Stone, Gretchin Green,
Knarloc Green, Orkhide Shade,
Fenris Grey, Hormagaunt Purple,
Mordian Blue, Chardon Granite,
Necron Abyss, Adeptus Battlegrey,


All eight Citadel Washes, including:
Gryphonne Sepia,Ogryn Flesh,
Baal red, Devlan Mud,
Badab Black, Leviathan Purple,
Asurmen Blue, Thraka Green.

All seven Citadel Color metallic paints, including:
Burnished Gold, Shining Gold,
Dwarf Bronze, Tin Bitz
Boltgun Metal, Chainmail,
Mithril Silver.

More example of my work

It's clear-cut painting, but it's all way too glossy.

Sorry, I wouldn't pay for that service.

one of my orks for all to see

Your paints are really thick, and lack any real detail short of the basecoating. I'd work on what you got before I started charging.

Im interested.

Do you have any reference from past customers
that can vouch for your service though?

Not trying to be nasty, but if you're serious about getting going with this, I would strongly suggest building yourself a lightbox and getting some decent pictures of finished miniatures.

The miniatures you have shown look to be a decent tabletop standard, but the pictures really aren't doing you any favours.

Why does that Rhino look so gritty?

Re why does the rhino look gritty It's my camra because the Rhino is very smooth Sorry for the bad photo

Are you dipping them?

Looks very glossy.

I was wondering what color primer do you use under the rhino, as well as what color did you use for the reds.

Smooth? It's lumpy and probably covered in a dozen layers of paint, that's why it's rough and gritty.

You should consider thinning you paints, and getting a better camera/skills.

Your painting has promise, but you do need to practice more.



^ A commission I did for $3.

All I can say is, good lord.

Again Im not trying to be nasty, but none of what you have posted is something I would pay for. That rhino is terrible and looks like its been repainted a zillion different times.
Heck Ive lost a hand and can paint smoother than that.

So, sorry to not sugar coat it, but don't give up the day job.

@Cyporiean: Thats a very nice model. That's your $3 work? Post some $7 work Cheap Git

Gwar how did you lose a hand?

Ghost in the Darkness wrote:Gwar how did you lose a hand?

Lol well I went and derailed this thread faster than a sack of potato on a rail line haven't I. I didn't so much as loose my painting hand as loose 3 fingers and mangle up the thumb and remaining one pretty bad. Was just a nasty accident. I shan't go further than that (this is an internet forum after all ) but needless to say i used to be right handed. While I slowly slowly am getting better with my left and still cannot write in anything but shaky print with my left, I can still paint better with it than that rhino up there.

i have to say something you might like i like the head you converted at least hes good at using greenstuff.

It's better looking then my POCs, that's for damn sure.
Keep at it, they look good for tabletop standard, and just keep on trying, you'll get where you wanna go with these eventually.

I would be up for it , 8 a squad is cheap to that standard.....but you need people that can bouche for your work

uhm. i wouldn't bay 2 dollars a squad for that paint job. the paint is too thick, causing the texture to be bumpy. and i can't figure out why the models are so glossy without a gloss varnish. which people don't cover the whole model with typically. acrylic paint means water is your friend. and commissioned painters will typically hand paint numbers and chapter logos/squad markings etc.

I am going to have to strongly agree with what everyone else is saying.

You need to thin your paints and do some highlighting and shading.

here is a model that I did on commission for $5


you should work on your skills and come back in a couple of months.

Just to be different - I support you on this one. There's a LARGE class of people out there that probably want to have painted armies, but don't have the time or ability to paint their own, and don't want to drop the high prices that "artist"-level painters charge. Look at the guys at BrushThrall.com; their stuff is gorgeous, but it's running 200 bucks for a WarJack or infantry squad because it's so good (and that's actually cheap when you consider the time, at a "professional" rate of about $10 US per hour). The CamoSpecs guys who paint BattleTech minis charge around $40-50 per mini.

I've been doing this for about 3 years now - I've got several "quality standards" that I paint my stuff to, and the biggest seller by FAR is the lowest level of painting (that is, basic tabletop standard - each color on the model having a basecoat, wash, and drybrushed highlight layer) because it's cheap and it's a fast turnaround time (I can knock out a squad of IG in about 7 hours of painting - primed model to spraying the matte varnish). Especially right now, while everybody is short cash, if you have to have a painted army and can't or won't do it yourself, taking a qualitative hit on the paintjobs is, for the casual gamer, extremely attractive.

Just because his stuff isn't Golden Demon-worthy doesn't mean he shouldn't be trying to sell the paintjobs. Sure, they could be better, but they're LOADS better than the people who literally dip pieces into paint pots or just leave them primered or grey. He should also make it a point to get better (and use matte varnish!), but he's not stupid for trying this.

I'm with you Swordguy.. the OP is charging the right amount for his level of painting and with time, he will only get better.

He's not charging 50 dollars per model, so he's not going to get rich quickly but he also isn't trying to pass of his ability as something it's not..

Cudos tabletop, I hope you get a few sales from this.

Swordguy wrote:Just to be different - I support you on this one. There's a LARGE class of people out there that probably want to have painted armies, but don't have the time or ability to paint their own, and don't want to drop the high prices that "artist"-level painters charge. Look at the guys at BrushThrall.com; their stuff is gorgeous, but it's running 200 bucks for a WarJack or infantry squad because it's so good (and that's actually cheap when you consider the time, at a "professional" rate of about $10 US per hour). The CamoSpecs guys who paint BattleTech minis charge around $40-50 per mini.

I've been doing this for about 3 years now - I've got several "quality standards" that I paint my stuff to, and the biggest seller by FAR is the lowest level of painting (that is, basic tabletop standard - each color on the model having a basecoat, wash, and drybrushed highlight layer) because it's cheap and it's a fast turnaround time (I can knock out a squad of IG in about 7 hours of painting - primed model to spraying the matte varnish). Especially right now, while everybody is short cash, if you have to have a painted army and can't or won't do it yourself, taking a qualitative hit on the paintjobs is, for the casual gamer, extremely attractive.

Just because his stuff isn't Golden Demon-worthy doesn't mean he shouldn't be trying to sell the paintjobs. Sure, they could be better, but they're LOADS better than the people who literally dip pieces into paint pots or just leave them primered or grey. He should also make it a point to get better (and use matte varnish!), but he's not stupid for trying this.

QFT completely. Everyone has to start somewhere and what better way to practise painting than to offer those who require a painted army for cheap. A lot of people don't even paint their armies nowadays (which hurts my soul) so this is perfect... cheap and they are at least PAINTED.

Good on you, keep it up!

BLARGAG!!! wrote:You need to thin your paints and do some highlighting and shading.

While the thinning the paints comment is fair, the amount of highlighting and shading really comes down to cost.

If you're charging bare minimum prices, than a bare minimum paint-job (basic colours and based) is fair.

hmm... This one deffinetly has me thinking both sides of the argument. I can totally see someone that doesnt have the time or want, to actually paint an army. This is a pretty cheap route to go. Honestly the paint job isnt horrible. He needs to read some simple tips on sprucing those up, but obviously hes wanting to make some type of profit. If he were to of posted those pics as "this is my work" most of you would of at least said not bad, and even gave tips to improve.
Good luck on your venture man, read some of the nasties for the tips and improve. Your pretty close to doing a really good job

Table Top. I have been painting for over 14 years. 5 of those years have been on a professional level. I have painted litterally hundreds of figures for people. That being said, as others have said, you need to start somewhere. I would suggest investing in "How to paint Games-Workshop Figures" Not that you are going to be able to paint like a GD artist or a 'Eavy Metal artist after reading it, but it will give you lots of tips and things to try. It is well worth the $25. Especially if you are going to attempt to have a go at this very time consuming job.

As far as your costs. I charge way too little for what I do, at about $6 per figure you are assured to get a very well blended, highlighted, lined and composed figure. Most places I look at (when I check out the competition) charge around $10-$15 for the level that I paint most of my figures. That being said I also get more work then they do I would dare to imagine. Too much at times my wife complains to me. What I am getting at with this is, know your limits, price accordingly, and know, as we have all told you here, that you will improve.

www.coolminiornot.com/artist/terryanddeidra

Check this out. This is my Cool Mini Page. This will give you an idea of what I am talking about. Gauge what you charge off of this. I am not trying to say that I am ready for the GD competition because I am not. However I have won a few best painted
More what I am trying to show you is compare the work and the cost. Then put your prices accordingly and you will do fine.

Another thing that I do that you may want to try is this:
Offer to paint for free. What I mean is I offer to paint (for a new customer) the first units command for free.
What I do is this, I have them send it, I paint it, and send it back, if they like it then they can send the rest to be painted, if they do not then they have lost nothing. You on the other hand have only lost 3 hours of work, and potentially have another customer. Consider it advertising. Eitherway you are painting and getting better.

I hope that this helps, if not, well, I was trying.

Back to painting......

Terry

I think for the prices he mentioned, this is a hell of a deal. Consider my life (why not, I am awesome): I work 4 jobs, am finishing doctoral coursework, and have a newborn at home. My 40k time is limited to Saturday afternoons, if I'm LUCKY, and that's just to play--painting minis, even if I was good at it (I am not), is something there's just no time for.

I realize there's a professional pride thing here, as everybody's pulling out their own paintbrushes to see whose is bigger. However, the first thing I did when I saw those photos and prices was check out bitkingdom and pondering future purchases; at these prices, and with my schedule, this sounds like a sweet arrangement!

Jesus!, how much of a paintjob are people you expecting for 3 (three) US dollars!

Though, with prices like that I would be suspicious of a scammer. I'm not pointing fingers here, I'm just sayin' I would need more re-assurance before I sent off my mini's.

Personally, I think these models look great for the price. And to be honest, some of my models look about the same. As mentioned, we're talking $3 a model or more. I painted one of my models last night - and just to paint the primary color took almost an hour.

This guy offers a great service for a great price. Those that want pro-quality will pay more, but those that just want an army painted and ready to play can't go wrong with this guy. At least for your rank-and-file grunts, right?

EDIT: I took a second look at his work. Some of it is REALLY GOOD! I mean, I'd be proud to put it on my table. I think some of this work has photographed better than others is all.

Fond of this one in particular:

Paintedfigs offer a much better paintjob for $3. It's not spectacular, but at least they thin their paints.

Hell, I offer a better paint job for $4 a model (granted its and extra dollar a fig, but you get a shaded and highlighted fig for that extra dollar, and I can crack them out like nobodies business).

Blargag but can you do 8 per squad ? the offer is 3 per model or 8 a squad. I just think is too cheap to be true and would like someone to vouch for him before i invest. and offering your service in someone else thread is kind of highjacking him. Blargag if you want to offer your services i would be interested in seeing you post a thread with your rates and work on it though. i am with some of the other posters , i don't have the time or skills and want to put something on the table other then primer troops with painted guns. granted i am new and just starting but i can already tell i do not like the painting part of the game.

In all rights he is doing real well. He is at least a 4 on a 1to10 scale 10 being god like. That said he paints better then me. Id pay his prices............if i had the cash. Im with others though when it comes to references. I need solid proof my troops are coming home, with no one left behind. I think his biggest problem is not paint jobs its picture taking. Im a pro and its all about lighting and close ups.

if i am going to pay any sort of price for painting. ON TOP of the ridiculous price for the models... i sure as hell be getting a better paint job than that. even for 8 bucks per squad.

While I wouldn't let someone else paint my miniatures simply because I don't want my army to be painted by anyone other than myself, I would direct some of my locals to your service.

I grind my teeth seeing unpainted or black primed models at the local tourneys (the main reason I don't participate is my own army isn't finished) and those boys could use an affordable, reliable service.

You might want to ask some of the pro painters here for some advice on business practices for things like shipping and terms of payment, how to prepare for expected and unexpected delays, problem customers and so on.

Gwar! wrote:Paintedfigs offer a much better paintjob for $3. It's not spectacular, but at least they thin their paints.

The dude's in Sri Lanka, so $3 is a good chunk of change, comparatively, and shipping rates there and back are harsh; you're really looking at about $5 per infantry fig.

http://paintedfigs.com/howsocheap.html

Seriously. We paint out of Sri Lanka, and everything here is a whole lot cheaper than in the West. The average monthly income here is just $128. In the capital Colombo, it's up to just $210.

Expecting any Western Painter to compete against that is stupid.



OP: you DO need to work on your photos...and badly. Try here:

Mini Photography: Backdrop
Mini Photography: Lighting
Mini Photography: Camera

So what? And they also have a Shipping hub in the US, so you pay US to US shipping rates and no more.

C'mon guys cut the guy some slack. He is offering a service. Either you want to use or you don't.

Tearing him down for what he is offering not only makes you look like a jackass, but potentially any lurkers or members will think twice about posting with their services. That makes us all look bad as members of dakka <steps down>

Currently nothing on ebay from ya.

phiasco wrote:if i am going to pay any sort of price for painting. ON TOP of the ridiculous price for the models... i sure as hell be getting a better paint job than that. even for 8 bucks per squad.

I'll be happy to overcharge you for a better than average paint job, read 7 on a scale of 10.. I fyou are still interested in that, please feel free to pm me..

(oh yeah forgot the devil smile for a bit o' sarcasm)

If you don't Like his painting or Prices then don't post! Especially if you have not used his service.

Its rude to insult a person that is trying to offer a service . While you may not like what he has to offer, you can show that respectfully by not partaking of it.


I love this here:

Paintedfigs offer a much better paintjob for $3. It's not spectacular, but at least they thin their paints.

When is it ok to post an add for a competitor on someones forum?

How is being Honest and not sugarcoating it being rude?

It seems people today have skin of ricepaper and any sort of truthful criticism is considered rude and bad.

Wait what? Competitor? Dakka have a painting Service? Why was I not informed?! And its ok to tell people they can get a much better service for the same price. It's called "helping people to not get ripped off"

Gwar! wrote:How is being Honest and not sugarcoating it being rude?

It seems people today have skin of ricepaper and any sort of truthful criticism is considered rude and bad.

Wait what? Competitor? Dakka have a painting Service? Why was I not informed?! And its ok to tell people they can get a much better service for the same price. It's called "helping people to not get ripped off"

People are allowed to get ripped off all they want to. The question is though, is this a ripoff?

OP has a few things going for him:

1. A cheap price.
2. No overseas shipping. Doesn't matter if Sri Lanka has a US hub, it still take time to go across the pond, deal with Customs problems, or any other number of problems.
3. No backlog that is mentioned) due to other project demands.

This means you can get minis painted cheap and fast. That is ALL he is advertising. For $3 a fig or $8 a squad those are more than good enough paintjobs.

Need to find out the definition of "squad" though. Technically 32 Termagants is one squad for me...

Wow yeah lay him some slack..he is jsut offering a service, dont reply if you dont want it..dont go and break him down by throwing insults like other people are better or whatever. there are a lot of lazy guys out there who would love this cheap service ..so lay off.

As someone with a painting service (http://www.bkarmypainting.com), I've hesitated to post in this thread for fear of appearing to have sour grapes. Best of luck to this guy, but I'll only say two things:

#1 - You get what you pay for. Not just in quality of painting, but also in terms of service. I charge competitive prices, but since I specialize in armies, I can do so because of economies of scale and technique. I also have to cover my own overhead, subsidize my shipping costs, pay taxes, etc. With a price point that low, I honestly don't see how the individual is making a profit. And if the painter's not mainting a profit, it can be a challenge to stay in business.

#2 - References are always nice. It's helped me that I'm somewhat well known here and in other places, and blogging the creation of my Chaos Daemons for GT Chicago last fall also helped establish my bona fides as someone able to paint minis to a good tabletop standard in a reasonable amount of time.

Centurian99 wrote:As someone with a painting service (www.bkarmypainting.com), I've hesitated to post in this thread for fear of appearing to have sour grapes. The only thing I'll say is that you get what you pay for.

OMG Sour Grapes RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

Clthomps wrote:(snippity snip)


I love this here:

Paintedfigs offer a much better paintjob for $3. It's not spectacular, but at least they thin their paints.

When is it ok to post an add for a competitor on someones forum?

I know it might not be a rule on Dakka, but on most forums, if someone is selling something and another person hi-jacks the thread to sell the same thing, it's considered bush league at best and piss poor at the very least. If one wants to post up about their own services, they should nut up and do it in another thread..

So, to answer your question Clthomps, I'd say it isn't ok and pretty low brow for someone to have don't that..

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:It's better looking then my POCs, that's for damn sure.
Keep at it, they look good for tabletop standard, and just keep on trying, you'll get where you wanna go with these eventually.

Thank you for your support I will be posting some of my best stuff soon

I said I would post some new Pictures and Here they are I hope all of you enjoy. Thank you to all who support me in what I am trying to Do.

The previous photos were the first time I had painted blood angels and they were for my son So they were not my best here are a few more photos of my work.

terryanddeidra, can you check your PMs!

Thanks

Your painting needs a friend. That friend could be Devlan Mud wash. Try it out to get some shading.

Your projects show promise. Keep it going.

there not actually that bad

Swordguy wrote:Just to be different - I support you on this one. There's a LARGE class of people out there that probably want to have painted armies, but don't have the time or ability to paint their own, and don't want to drop the high prices that "artist"-level painters charge.

First and above all else, welcome home Swordguy.

Now I have to reiterate the comments of most other people here that the paintjob is too thick, but I also agree with Swordguy: someone will buy them.

Here are my hints for you. Note that rather than give flat advice I have offered little directional steps that will of themselves steer you in the right direction.

1. Thin down your paint, a lot. It is all very well telling you this but without the hows and whys it is useless information.

To help you here on the next project use a white undercoat and wash it with heavily thinned down chaos black. You get black crevasses but a lighter surface easier to paint over. Later once your thick paint habit is broken move back to black undercoat if you like, or stay with white. You might also find this makes your jobs go quciker, due to having few layers giving you better return for your time investment.

2. Also remember that paint costs money, thick coats dont go very far. Especially as you leave a lot of paint on the palette, especially with mixing. Adding water cuts your costs and makes your job more viable.

To help you with this use the correct palette, you might already but if you dont get an artists palette with lots of little depressions into which you can dab paint before blending or thinning. Get ones with small depressions, not a watercolours palette or you will be steered into wastage.

3. Buy a scrapbook and keep a painting log.

This is so important especially as you get better and get more work. I am no way near a pro painter and paint very irregulary so my painting log is doubly important. When I paint a mini I write down what I did, what colours I used, what I blended with what, and how dilute I made the paint. This way if I pick up another squad for a completed army I can replicate the orginal work with a minimum of discrepancy; often many many years later.
For you this is doubly important as you can then budget your materials. Last thing you want is to get a commission for a large army, and buy too much of the wrong paint, its worse than too little of the right paint - unless you are in a real hurry. As you want to do a budget service cutting your costs must be a premium.

Now the painting log becomes of absolute importance if you get return customers. After all once someone buys from you and is happy with your work that person is more likely to rebuy from you. The re-purchase might not always be a new army, but could well be an extension to an existing one. Remembering what you did becomes extra important here, especially with regards to keeping basing uniform. Informing your customers that you keep a permenant painting log so that if they extend their army you can paint to match is a good selling point and can be seen as good customer service and will encourage return custom which is what you really want. Also print out relevant details of your painting log for customers so they can repair or add to their miniatures themselves.

4. Dont do eyes, yet.

Large monsters excepted. At your level of painting quality a flesh wash shadow is quite sufficient. If this looks odd add a little dark brown to the wash.

5. Improve your basing standards.

This is easy to do, anyone can base neratly if they know how, so for minis for sale there is little excuse for sloppy basing. For a start avoid grey bases, they look really dirty, doubly so on camera. Your Moria troll wasnt so bad, but the grey base made it look crap, likewise with your Fellowship models. While on those models; you need a strong inkwash over the grey rubble to give it definition.
Now what base colouirs to use: keep to goblin green, black or bestial brown. Only use goblin green if you give the base an even flock coating, also when on that subject if you give a base an even grass covering use flock not static grass. Static grass looks much better as clumps on a base than as a cover. Compare your winged Nazgul to the mounted Theoden figure, your Nazgul has a cool base, Theoden's base frankly sucks. Had you used flock he would have looked better, though don't mix flock and static grass bases in your work. Also do tidy up the rim of the base clearing away bits of flock or sand. GW has a painting guide book that tells you all the points just covered.

6. Conversions.

Now let us play to your strengths, your paintjobs leave a lot to be desired (by pro-paint standards) but the green stuff beard you posted was very good. You might actually want to start with unpainted conversions. Also if you are building an army for sale do do one or two conversions in it. Non-special character miniatures especially. Your customers will be happy to have a space marine commander that is unique, it becomes their army commander. But dont go overboard time is money and conversions take time.
Though then again as stated you might want to reimage yourself as a converter of models who sells unpainted converted squads and vehicles, in which case that would be all you do.

7. Think about your pricing structure.

As noted if you charge $8 a squad it means you charge the same for a squad of five marines or fifty conscripts. As this is business you need to quantify. I would recommend offering a different lower rate for single colours armoured models like Eldar guardians and space marines and a seperate higher rate for larger models and multi-coloured units like Bretonnian knights.

Edited for clarity

You're doing great! Keep up the good work. You might think about making a photo box. It's not hard to make and it does wonders for show men pics. Your level of detail is great, I was wondering what's your painting process?

Adding to orlanth , i use a large white ceramic tile to mix my paints on and keep them from drying as the surface stays cold.... better then a palate for me. but i am horrible at painting, also i made a few wet pallets....i forgot where i found the walk through, but is useful to keep those colors you mixed and liked from drying out. another tip is add a little organic thinner(the type that don't smell bad) if you are slow like me it will keep it from drying too quick on the mini while you are trying to spread it to the right places and do that shade effect. all that being said i like your details and color choices, you paint by far better than i do.

I find this thread hilarious.

Gwar! wrote:How is being Honest and not sugarcoating it being rude?

Because no one asked your socially awkward nerd ass what you thought. The guy just posted that he would like to paint for something for people and everyone flies off the handle thinking they know THE SECRETZ OF EVERYTHING LISTENZ TO MEZ!!!!11! I feel sorry for your teachers in school I bet you go to the nurse every day with a sore shoulder.

HEY GIYZ 1 TYME I PAINTED DIS 4 FIVE DOLLA!!!!


DIZ GUY IS SUCH A RIP!!!!!!!!

Get over yourselves.

You get what you pay for at the end of the day. Infact in most cases the painter comes out of a commission learning a hell of a lot but ends up getting below min wage...which doesn't pay the bills. $3! I'd have to charge that for cleaning the mould lines! I hope you get tons of work although i would back-up what folk say about getting a light tent...and thinning the paints
Happy painting! *dives for cover*

loved your models especially the ent and the balrog. But wasn't very fond of gandalf to be perfectly honest because the face needs depth.

If he gets vouchers , i will use his service for sure. Even thinking of sending him a tester squad and posting pictures after .....But my picture taking skills ranks up there with my unicorn hunting skills.

Orlanth wrote:

Swordguy wrote:Just to be different - I support you on this one. There's a LARGE class of people out there that probably want to have painted armies, but don't have the time or ability to paint their own, and don't want to drop the high prices that "artist"-level painters charge.

First and above all else, welcome home Swordguy.

*waves*

Been a while, yeah?

Hello again I wanted to say something.

I wanted to start a painting service, because of the (FACT) that after my Accident I was put on Disability and I know that I have the time to do so plus I love to put Detail into Everything I see and do, For the most part I Paint Old School, but I am willing to learn any and All new Techniques that are out there. I Just recently painted the Blood Angels, I did it in three days for my 18 year old son, who needed them for a the Christmas canned food drive Battle Force game. I have been Painting Minis for over 25 yrs and I have made money on doing so for many other people, 40k is a new paint style for me and so I will do my best to insure that what you want, you get!
Thank You to All who gave me feedback I will try harder to make the 40k better than what you have seen so far.
P.S. for the most part I airbrush most of my minis, my son started the tank and I finished it, it was done with a Tank Brush.

Donald

Tabletop -

you got a decent price for the paint job.

keep it up.



Others are just trying to help you improve a bit.

but its all good.

For all of you who got upset that people called you out for being rude in this thread:

Read This.

Suck it up.

tabletopgames43 wrote:Hello again I wanted to say something.

I wanted to start a painting service, because of the (FACT) that after my Accident I was put on Disability and I know that I have the time to do so plus I love to put Detail into Everything I see and do, For the most part I Paint Old School, but I am willing to learn any and All new Techniques that are out there. I Just recently painted the Blood Angels, I did it in three days for my 18 year old son, who needed them for a the Christmas canned food drive Battle Force game. I have been Painting Minis for over 25 yrs and I have made money on doing so for many other people, 40k is a new paint style for me and so I will do my best to insure that what you want, you get!
Thank You to All who gave me feedback I will try harder to make the 40k better than what you have seen so far.
P.S. for the most part I airbrush most of my minis, my son started the tank and I finished it, it was done with a Tank Brush.

Donald

Donald don't take the comments too personally. Most of us wish you well and would encourage you in what you do, even most of those who have given you hard critique. It is just that some dont have the maturity to articulate critique properly. I do not think anyone here has of yet told you to stop trying, only given you different degrees of quality of encouragement to get better at what you do.

I 2nd orlanth. Your doing a real good job. You just have to remember that no matter what you do your going to have critics. I wish you well and hope you make millions. Hopefully i will have some cash to spend on your service soon so pm me with your details.

i used to do the ebay thing advertised as pro painted, and most of what I got was garbage. I've started painting 6 months ago, so I'm no expert so, I don't have an artists eye if you will. With that said, I want to see everyone elses armies. I've seen little examples of their work but a lot of crap talking. The fact of the matter is, most of you don't paint your crap this doesn't apply to everyone, but I've played enough games to know, most people don't have completely painted armies, and are talking trash because you're on a forum where you can hide behind your computer and feel good about yourselves. Only a few of you actually gave positive contructive criticism like Orlanth did.

I actually want to use his service , i sent him a pm asking about sending him a tester squad and waiting on the reply. i love his banners, and his paint stile reminds me of that painter that cut off his ear that painted in a method i believe is called impasto. like i said , once i get it back i will post pictures but my cam skills are like my unicorn hunting skills ....none existent. although i have seen a Pegasus.

Tell it like it is brother coachnitro. only half my army is painted. That counts for 150 out of 300. So i suck at painting they look like 5th grade work."hey mom like my doodles."

You LOTR stuffs reminds me alot of my early paintings, keep at it, you'll get better.



Out of curiosity, are your banners hand painted or some sort of transfer?

Most of my banners are hand painted by looking at pictures I can get almost any banner picture and make transfer is you wish Thank you again

Best of luck. Ultimately, people will vote with their wallets and you just have to find your niche in the grand scheme of things.

For the price I think it's great, and as someone who is horrible at painting you'll likely be hearing from me sometime in the future as well.

I will be sending him a squad this week to try his service. As a Tyranid player, his costs are too low for me too completely dismiss.

And if somehow the service is NOT worth it, I can hide them in the horde. But I don't expect that to be the issue.

Your hand-painted banners are awesome, what kind of price do you ask for such banners!

I also agree with Orlanth. You will find your nitch, and you will excell I am sure. Do not take to heart what some have said here. If you do you will never continue, and will not get any better. You have promise as I told you earlier, and via PM. Keep it up, and remember this is ultimately for fun, and if you can make a few extra bucks doing what you would do anyway, well then more power to you.

Yep, the comments did seam harsh and not very constructive. Your services are really cheap and I'm sure that once you get a grounding in your style you will get lots of work. Neaten up your work a little and there's no reason why you should get more per mini (time is money unless your doing this as a hobby that pays its way) . Since your running a budget painting service maybe you should check out 'Army painter' if you haven't already. Best of luck!
Happy painting!

I noticed this thread a few days ago when you just had the Blood Angels posted, and i was on the fence about what sort of comment to leave, so i kept my mouth shut so i wouldn't sound like an ass. after seeing the LOTR work i can say that for the price, this is an excellent service. at this price point it will fill a niche, and i hope this works out for you.

one thing that did catch my attention though, is the fire on the balrog, check out this website

http://hot-lead.org/advance/fire_theory.htm

good luck!

I feel that if your own business is doing so badly that you have to stamp your own pics and links over someone else's thread, you're probably not someone I'd want to buy from.

It's an average paint job, at an average price. Quid pro quo?

Hello again I thought I would Let all of You know that I have 4 People who are going to test My service. They have agreed that when they get there Product back they would vouch for Me If they like what they Get. Again Thank you for all the suggestions and support on how to impove my painting skills. Thank you.

Hello, again Thank you for all who has responded to my thread. I Promised more Photos of new work and I thined out the paint. I would like to know how this looks compaired to my previous work. Thank you Dakka Dakka Fans. Donald.

Some nice clean work there. Keep at it. It seems your next step would be attention to detail. Such as highlighting, etc. Oh, and don't forget to file off that flash on the that ork!

Thank you did not notice it before will pay more attitions to detail

Donald , I love it. I am going to send you my command squad like i said once i get the scouts back.....how did you like my standard bearer , ugliest mofo in the army. also got some other stuff i like you to do but i can talk to you about that later.....again wow, i loved your paint jobs before , but the new ones are sure to get those sitting on the fence.

Now this is what I am talking about.

Really good. Being an Orc Painter I can tell you that you may want to spend just a few more minutes on the flesh. It is really easy to get a great contrast and depth with green skins.

Try this:
Dark Angels Green base coat.
Snot Green highlights
Goblin Green Highlights
Then wash with a thin coat of Devlin Mud. Whalla....instand greenskin killa!!!

Again much better.

rodfarruguia wrote:If he gets vouchers , i will use his service for sure. Even thinking of sending him a tester squad and posting pictures after .....But my picture taking skills ranks up there with my unicorn hunting skills.

Now that is FUNNY

Just wanted to say that I read the whole thread and you've really improved one heck of a great deal since you started off.

I'm no pro painter but I'm up there touching pro I guess (I'm pretty much top when it comes to tabletop standard but lack the skills of proper real good looking highlights as well as tiny details) and I can honestly say that youre about to get there soon as well (seeing your latest ork creation)...

It was real nice to see how you took the tips offered and showed tat you want (and can) paint better as opposed to the normal forum guy who would simply whine back in his own thread, making him look like a 5 year old arguing with his dad

I wish you the best of luck wth your ventures and hope you'll get it to where you want it to be

hey mate you got me interested.

your not the BEST painter ever but your alright and you do a good tabletop standard. Your improving fast! I see you use inks on the deffkopta.

ok. down to business questions:

1. have you got any contacts I can talk to about your commisions?

2. If i do go for you what speed do you work at?

3.will i have to pay P&P and if so how much?

4. do you have a showcase standard?

Ty

Ghost in the Darkness wrote:Gwar how did you lose a hand?

He fed it to the World Maggot.

Yeah, and what are your prices on tanks? Also, do you paint Guard, 'cause your 8 bucks a squad is an awesome deal! I'll just wait for some pics of your latest guys (the 4 testers) before I contact you. Btw, how do I contact you? Also, how fast do you paint?


-A.

Big improvement already, I would not be ashamed to add that deffkopta to my army. Well done.

Paint is thinned even and the inking was handled well, I would have to look at it a long time to find fault - the only thing that immediately came to mind is the lack of highlighting, but you can get away with that with orks and I suspect was a deliberate ommission. I didnt notice the flash on the orks arm until prompted.

Now orks are relatively simple to paint though. So next we need to see a lighter coloured human(ish) figure so we can take your painting skill to the next level and see where you are at. Something like a good faction LoTR figure or Empire or Guard miniature will give us a good indication.

Hi Tabletop,

The Deth Kopta looks fantastic! 40k is definitely a style thing, and I was shocked when I recently took a painting class at the local store how easy it was to make things look like you're used to seeing ONCE you know the method they're using.

40k painting seems to like a lot of heavy shading in the recesses, but it's just a simple wash that does the trick, and it definitely looks like you've done that on this recent model!

More advanced calls for highlighting, but I wouldn't expect that at the price you're listing.

I'm very tempted by your services! This most recent model really rocks! I look forward to seeing what people post when they get their squads back from you.

One thing- I'd suggest starting a new thread! I, too, read the whole thing, and there was a lot to wade through at the beginning. I'd post a new thread with this latest pic, and invite those who you're painting for to post the pics of what you do for them there.

As you can see you're creating quite a stir and getting a lot of attention, which for a miniature painter is a Great thing and you may have my business, too, after seeing a few of the things you're doing for these first 4 folks.

Great, keep us posted

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jonny you miss the point , you cant beat his price for what he is doing. i doubt you would take everyone going to Donald for the same price.

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Hi AEMM,

You might want to edit out your post and put it in the Painting and Modelling forum, since normally people looking for comments on their painting start their own thread and put it in there

This is more of an ad for a painting service, so it's not the best place to get feedback on your painting. And even if it was, you'd need your own thread

I'll look for it in the P&M forum and give you a comment there!

People who do commisions should really stop posting on this thread. If you have comments you should PM TableTop as a courtese.

As Business Manager for my company, nothing upsets me more than when I am exhibiting at a trade show and my competitors come up to MY booth and try to sell prospects on thier products. When that happens I go out of my way to make sure that my competitors get booted from the show.

In other words...Get your own booth! Get your own thread!

Hello I just wanted to say Thank You too you ALL! you are helping me a great deal with my painting, my understanding of how much you enjoy your minis and for all of the information shared by you. DAKKA DAKKA is the best forum I have ever been on, and I Feel that I have made a lot of new friends! AGAIN THANKS!!!

Definitely improving dude. A couple of humble critiques;

Go back and highlight twice after a wash. A good recipe to follow is;

Base color
Wash
Highlight 1
Highlight 2

So to do metal;

Base color -- boltgun
Black wash
Highlight with 50/50 boltgun/silver
Light highlight with silver


This recipe pretty much works on anything (Metal, leather, red, whatever), just change the colors accordingly. You can add further washes/highlights to add further depth or 'blackline'. Take the new wash (black), get your brush saturated and follow the lines of the metal where they meet, this will add further depth. Also, keep in mind the primer you use will drastically effect the overall 'brightness' of a model Black primer is good at hiding areas not painted and giving natural depth but it also darkens the model considerably. Not a bad thing if it's your goal but don't be afraid to use grey primer and wash areas dark as you see fit.

Last thing, the brazen brass parts (Mufflers, flamers, etc). You will be doing many of those, so I thought I would share my recipe;

Brazen brass
Devlan Mud wash (I farking love this wash)
Highlight brazen brass
Drybrush end of muffler/flamer with some black (Or use a Tamiya weathering stick)
Mix a bit of brazen brass with white (90% brass here ,just a touch of white) in the middle of the brass. VERY light highlight. This gives it that white/burnt brass look.


Good luck!

Well, I sent tabletop my army and he is working on it! Will post results after I get it back, along with what I already have painted.

I am a little giddy about this, having had an unpainted army for almost a year, and being out of the hobby for 7 years before that... it will feel good to field a fully painted force after all this time

I also have a unit of Hormagaunts in his hands. I will also post when they make it back to me!

I got a peep at my units , my standard bearer from 1978 ......I thought nothing could resuscitate it, it was so ugly. but what i was shown was a miracle....is amazing all things consider. i will post a picture if Donald doesn't.

Please visit our new thread called
The New Thread for "Finally a Painting Service That is affortable" for new photos and updates Thank you all and have fun gaming

cant find it.
link please

Here you go

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/237733.page

Everybody post on the new one!!! This one's a little too long

Good stuff TTG43! Glad you're taking comments with a grain of salt. You already heard the tips said before this post so I wont dove tail it. But keep doing what you do! Cant beat the $8 squad deal.

And all you painters rating yourselves 1-10 lemme give you the LB Scale of Paint Domination, and calculate your numbers again.

1. Unknown

10. Yellow one from CMON

Yellow one gives you something to work toward eh? Yeah I wanted to throw all my paint stuff away after seeing this.

I think the eldar one may be done with an airbrush, or at least with paint transferring layer by layer. Personally i want to get things on the table fast not 500 points a year.

I believe it's all freehand. He's just got hands gifted by the gods. And if he could airbrush that accurate and consistent he would be on the cover of all airbrush, custom automotive, and motorcycle magazine at least 1 month while gaining grants from all over to get him schooled as a surgeon. Not saying that skill is impossible but it also would NOT go unnoticed.