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Post by: generalgrog
Not wanting to hijack the "awkward moments" thread.
We have all seen hockey, baseball, and basketball fights, has anyone ever witnessed or been party to a fight over our little toy soldier game?
Just curious.
I personallly have never seen it but I have seen dice thrown.
GG
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Yes, I recently gave a chinese burn to a friend when he finally came out and confessed to using a Vulcan He'stan/Sisters combo at a comp against teenagers.
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Post by: Augustus
Well, once, another gamer came up to my miniatures case, said something was cool and took it out to look at it without asking me. I told him thanks but he should ask first before reaching into someones case. He thought he would be smart guy and started touching the piece over and over to be a jack ...
So I punched him the neck, and he stopped.
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
Nah but I have seen minor physical alterations break out in a store
Like when some slow threw a kid out the door was harsh end of
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Post by: ShumaGorath
My group assaults eachother over 40k all the time. Punches, kicks, glares.
It's all in good fun though.
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
hmmmm yea rest assured if anyone punched,kicked,pinched me over warhammer or any associated TCG,RPG, or board related wargame and computer game I would make sure it would be the last alteration they would have for a long time.
because face it......why?
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Post by: Moz
I've heard a lot of physical threats thrown around by socially awkward gamers, but never actually seen it come to blows.
I did encounter a guy who was telling other people at the store that he would 'show (me) what he could do in the parking lot', after he marched his poor tau army *forward* into the maw of my tyranids and quit on turn 2. I imagine that could have been interesting as I've never had a grown man cry on me in a parking lot, but nothing ever happened.
Reminded me a lot of highschool, good times.
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Post by: Old Man Ultramarine
Augustus wrote:Well, once, another gamer came up to my miniatures case, said something was cool and took it out to look at it without asking me. I told him thanks but he should ask first before reaching into someones case. He thought he would be smart guy and started touching the piece over and over to be a jack ...
So I punched him the neck, and he stopped.
Neck Punch FTW, lol.
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
Old Man Ultramarine wrote:Augustus wrote:Well, once, another gamer came up to my miniatures case, said something was cool and took it out to look at it without asking me. I told him thanks but he should ask first before reaching into someones case. He thought he would be smart guy and started touching the piece over and over to be a jack ...
So I punched him the neck, and he stopped.
Neck Punch FTW, lol.
Yea they go down like a Sack of Gak
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Post by: wyomingfox
Neck Punch...What???
The worst arguement I ever saw was in a 4rth edition game where one member used a custom and very large base for a deamon prince. The owner (who was over 40 by the way) of the Deamon Prince got so mad that he took his model and smashed it against the ground by the other player's feet and then stormed off.
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Post by: dodgex1
Apart from that time where I rolled 18 1's and everything went black I came round and everyone else in the shop was dead with a dice stuck in each eye socket I've only ever seen violence one.
Someone picked up, without permission then proceeded to drop a Forgeworld Thunderhawk.
Now the guy was understandably annoyed and demanded the kids dad pay for the damage. The dad agreed until his was told it was the best part of 400quid. Pushing and such ensued. Dad and TH dropping child left. GW Store compensated the lad for his thunderhawk
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
dodgex1 wrote:Apart from that time where I rolled 18 1's and everything went black I came round and everyone else in the shop was dead with a dice stuck in each eye socket I've only ever seen violence one.
Someone picked up, without permission then proceeded to drop a Forgeworld Thunderhawk.
Now the guy was understandably annoyed and demanded the kids dad pay for the damage. The dad agreed until his was told it was the best part of 400quid. Pushing and such ensued. Dad and TH dropping child left. GW Store compensated the lad for his thunderhawk
Now thats why you ask.......some kids are so fething stupid they all assume
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Post by: Augustus
BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:Old Man Ultramarine wrote:Augustus wrote:Well, once, another gamer came up to my miniatures case, said something was cool and took it out to look at it without asking me. I told him thanks but he should ask first before reaching into someones case. He thought he would be smart guy and started touching the piece over and over to be a jack ...
So I punched him the neck, and he stopped.
Neck Punch FTW, lol.
Yea they go down like a Sack of Gak
It certainly lacked discretion, but the guy stopped and didn't think it was funny anymore after choking for a while. I was in my twenties then.
I think today, I would handle it differently but it did happen. I have never seen the guy again, not sure I would even recognize him.
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Post by: wyomingfox
Oh, you struck at his wind pipe...now I get it. Kind of a dangerous move though as if you strike too hard you could break a man's wind pipe.
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Post by: Augustus
generalgrog wrote:Not wanting to hijack the "awkward moments" thread.
We have all seen hockey, baseball, and basketball fights, has anyone ever witnessed or been party to a fight over our little toy soldier game?
Just curious.
I personallly have never seen it but I have seen dice thrown.
GG
I came close another time at the Gladiator years ago. After a variety of issues, my opponent switched some models with plasma pistols from the back to the front of his unit during the shooting phase when they were out of range (in V4) and tried to take the shots. I confronted him and he said, "show me in the rules where it says I can't do that".
I replied, show me in the rules where it says I can't sweep your crap off the table, kick your ass, and fill out the score sheets as me winning and turn them in? My nearby friend told me later he was ready to seperate the two of us, if things went poorly.
Ah, to be young and hot headed again, I don't play in the gladiators anymore.
wyomingfox wrote:...Kind of a dangerous move...
Yea, I would say, stupid probably.
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Post by: the_trooper
Almost...
I was playing a game- My Latd vs. his blood angels. I played horde mutants and a couple basilisks. A couple times during the game I asked him about his coherency as he was trying to avoid the pie plates. I have basic social graces so I know when I am being rude, but this time I was delicate and polite.
After the game, he was all angry telling his club buddies I accused him of cheating and how cheesy I was. I was warned not to go near him because he might get ugly. Really, over a mini game?
Another time I had someone fuming because I asked to check the rules about tank shock and close combat. He tossed the rule book on the ground and stormed off. One of the other gamers try to calm him down to which he replied "Touch me and you'll pull back a nub."
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Post by: generalgrog
the_trooper wrote: "Touch me and you'll pull back a nub."
I'm sorry but that is hilarious...I LOL'd
GG
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Post by: the_trooper
Oh, it was but it's not wise to giggle openly at an angry gamer that has nothing to lose.
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Post by: assultmarine
neck punch: a direct punch to the wind pipe or top of the spine. can kill easyly.
imho i dont whether to congratualate on not killing him or not.
sigh im a red belt in shotokan karate and i have only seen a neck punch once. an ambulance was needed.
me though ive only seen vilonce over toy soliders.
i had my bed broke in a dorm cause i said an ork looked like elton john
assultmarine
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Post by: NinjaPenguin
Ah, I've been hoping for a post like that. Now I get to gloat about my Yoshukai karate black belt.
And I can personally say that Neck Punch pales in comparison to the awesome powers of Neck Nukite.
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Post by: Gaznab
Ok I dunno some of these stories are pretty good but I do believe I have you all beat the following are 3 stories about 3 different gamers that I have had the "pleasure" of dealing with, 2 of them are generally very angry and the other is essentially a poor sport.
A guy I know plays guard and dwarfs and freaks out anytime anything starts to turn against but stuffs it in your face when hes winning. I have been witness to him throwing models and dice. One day he was fuming about how overpowered the lash of submission was and how this 12 year old kid who hasnt had his balls drop yet (hope thats allowed to be said on the forum) is cheap for using it on him that me and my other friend made a song about him it was hilliarious.
One of my other friends was playing bretonnians and had been winning against all of us for a very long time his luck was amazing ( he had been given an army to get him in the game as well as had a list built) and slowly his luck went away and he started to lose because he never adapted to the tactics where as the rest of most assuredly adapted to his tactics. In the end we were finishing up our mighty empires campaign and he was losing badly and half way through his game he got up took all his models and in a gesture of returning them to the person that gave them to him he dumped them all in a pile and walked away. Very much a "I'm going to take my big red ball and go home now" scenario.
Now time for the ultimate in ridiculousness. I was playing my high elves against a friend of mine who is a very angry man has in the past launched a chaos knight across the room imbedding it in the wall and losing the horses head forever.He was playing chaos and as he began losing and the dice gods were not in his favour he got pissed off and launched at point blank range ever single one of his models into a wall.
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
This is kind of scary at the same time how some people rile others up to do this
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Post by: Cygnwulf
Saw a game once, a friend of mine who had recently started playing was playing his Tau against another new guy, who against all advice I and every other person in the store had given him, had chosen Dark Eldar as his first army. around about turn three or so the Eldar guy was getting really ticked that the guys in the store were "Never letting his Warriors take their save" (the fact that he never used cover for them notwithstanding). He got really upset when the AP rules were explained to him for the eighth time, swept all of his guys off the table into a box, grabbed a double fistfull of fire warriors and crushed them in his hands, then stuffed them down the shirt of the Tau player before storming out.
Now, maybe it was a bad thing to do, but someone who was standing near to where I was (who I will not name) May have tripped the eldar guy on his way out the door so that his army got scattered all over the sidewalk outside. Maybe. Possibly.
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Post by: wyomingfox
Gaznab wrote:Ok I dunno some of these stories are pretty good but I do believe I have you all beat the following are 3 stories about 3 different gamers that I have had the "pleasure" of dealing with, 2 of them are generally very angry and the other is essentially a poor sport.
A guy I know plays guard and dwarfs and freaks out anytime anything starts to turn against but stuffs it in your face when hes winning. I have been witness to him throwing models and dice. One day he was fuming about how overpowered the lash of submission was and how this 12 year old kid who hasnt had his balls drop yet (hope thats allowed to be said on the forum) is cheap for using it on him that me and my other friend made a song about him it was hilliarious.
One of my other friends was playing bretonnians and had been winning against all of us for a very long time his luck was amazing ( he had been given an army to get him in the game as well as had a list built) and slowly his luck went away and he started to lose because he never adapted to the tactics where as the rest of most assuredly adapted to his tactics. In the end we were finishing up our mighty empires campaign and he was losing badly and half way through his game he got up took all his models and in a gesture of returning them to the person that gave them to him he dumped them all in a pile and walked away. Very much a "I'm going to take my big red ball and go home now" scenario.
Now time for the ultimate in ridiculousness. I was playing my high elves against a friend of mine who is a very angry man has in the past launched a chaos knight across the room imbedding it in the wall and losing the horses head forever.He was playing chaos and as he began losing and the dice gods were not in his favour he got pissed off and launched at point blank range ever single one of his models into a wall.
Tell me, do they play ANGRY Marines 
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Post by: Kreenshaw
fisticuffs... who still says fisticuffs?
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Post by: generalgrog
As far as I know General Grog does.
You got a problem with that buddy?
You want me to get pugilistic on you?
GG
p.s. the above post was in jest.
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Post by: wyomingfox
generalgrog wrote:As far as I know General Grog does.
You got a problem with that buddy?
You want me to get pugilistic on you?
GG
p.s. the above post was in jest.
Which brings us to a related topic...has anyone ever gotten into a fisticuffs over a DakkaDakka thread 
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
loud noises!
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Post by: smiling Assassin
The only time pugilism was demonstrated was once when some wacko in a GW store (I haven't actually been to one for 2 years, still counting) dropped my cousin's newly super-glued Valkyrie. It fell apart, and stuck itself back together again back to front, confusingly strangely.
My cousin asked the guy to pay for the damages, he refused, then when my cousin persisted, he punched him in the stomache and tried to run. Cousin rugby tackles him, he's banned from the store (avast!) and gets kicked in the face by my cousin.
Huzzah!
sA
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
Yea this stupid kid in my store went for someone with a craft knife this = swift ban for life
And this other slow name Steve Rowlands used to threaten to "break" something on someone every day of the week until his threats got him banned.
And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
No end of wackoness in Bristol UK............
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Post by: pakman
BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
I'm speechless.
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
Yea I was a bit......mmmmmmmmmmkay
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Post by: Kreenshaw
pakman wrote:BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
I'm speechless.
Can someone say BioHazard! 
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Post by: wyomingfox
smiling Assassin wrote:The only time pugilism was demonstrated was once when some wacko in a GW store (I haven't actually been to one for 2 years, still counting) dropped my cousin's newly super-glued Valkyrie. It fell apart, and stuck itself back together again back to front, confusingly strangely.
My cousin asked the guy to pay for the damages, he refused, then when my cousin persisted, he punched him in the stomache and tried to run. Cousin rugby tackles him, he's banned from the store (avast!) and gets kicked in the face by my cousin.
Huzzah!
sA
OK, I understand how annoying it is to have butterfingers drop your model or accidently put too much preasure and snap a model in half (happens to my models quite often)... especially when they touch your models without permission.
But in almost every case you can glue said parts back together, green stuff any gaps and repair the paint job. Even in the case of the freak incident of the valkyre being glued wrong, your cousin could have dumped in a pale of Simple Green and a week later the parts would no longer be glued to each other. Given this, I think it is a bit understandable why someone might gasp at paying you $100 when you could repair it for a fraction of the cost.
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Post by: wyomingfox
pakman wrote:BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
I'm speechless.
Good thing for him that FW didn't have the Brass Scorpion available for purchase
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Post by: Clthomps
I can't say that I saw a fist fight over 40k....
But I did witness a brawl over some crab legs at the local Chinese Buffet, although we left just as the police showed up.
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
lol yes I sometimes just want to take some of the more "Hardcore" people aside and rough them up
then send them on their way.....
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Post by: Nydhog
BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
\ mmm/ that is to much metal for just one hand lol
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Post by: Beamo
Many years ago, I had just finished painting a dragon for my Dark Elves. Remember the marauder brand metal dragons?
Anyway, the next day, I was playing a game against someone and this guy I knew came by and just picked up the dragon and walked off with it. I walk after him telling him to give it back. He refuses, to which I persist "Give it!!" (Hey, it's a valid follow-up when you're 12  )
So he just drops it. It shatters everywhere.
He sarcastically says "Ooops!" and turned to walk off, so I punched him repeatedly in the back of the head until he fell down. Store owner remained neutral, oddly, and I went back to playing my game, albeit with a pair of dragon legs and tail on a base.
Good times...
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Post by: tahthing
have you noticed that nobody takes the piss of people reading hardback copies of Lord Of The Rings, or hard back dictionarys?
those hurt like hell!
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Post by: wyomingfox
Huh?
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Post by: tahthing
legal self-defence.
words hurt you know.
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Post by: namegoeshere
Painting a model with blood is stupid, it won't last.
Quick observation, most of these fights are taking place in America. ;P
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Post by: warpcrafter
Where do all these violent gamers come from? One of the gamers in the group I play with is a cop and several of them (I believe but don't know for sure) are former military or trained in martial arts, and I have a history of extremely dirty street fighting. If anybody tried to cause trouble at Tabletop, they would wake up in the hospital of the local jail. I have a record of about half a dozen wins and several hundred losses, and I've never so much as raised my voice at an opponent. It's just not that important. Of course, it seems some people have to make everything about them.
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Post by: generalgrog
warpcrafter wrote: If anybody tried to cause trouble at Tabletop
Ther's only 1 rule of tabletop......you don't talk about tabletop.
GG
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Post by: Kreenshaw
warpcrafter wrote:I have a history of extremely dirty street fighting. If anybody tried to cause trouble at Tabletop, they would wake up in the hospital of the local jail.
ITG much?
PS: warpcrafter I’m just messing with ya!
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Post by: Grunt13
After reading these post I trying to picture some of these people at an anger management meeting.
Hot Head #1 "I am required by my probation to attend these meetings"
Hot Head #2 "I go to biker bars and start fights"
Hot Head Gamer "I threw a hissy fit when a 12 year old moved one of his squads of toys 7 inches, so I threw my toy men, of which I have invested hundreds if not thousands of dollars, on to the ground and stormed off after threatening to karate kick someone"
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Post by: Nofasse 'Eadhunta
I've had my Ghazghkull thrown at me.
They call him killy for a reason.
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Post by: AlfredTheStrange
I've never been witness to such a thing over a wargame. I once came close though when I was playing some french kids at the local club, when they started harasing me for being english.
Though I've never seen it even come close over the game, Or an argument that wasnt quickly resolved with pulling out the rule book.
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Post by: Grandmaster
This is the same post i made on the other thread but it seems to fit here as well!
My son (10) but very good at the game, was playing a guy at our local store who i had not met before. This guy is about 21.
This guys starts telling my son that his farseer must take a test as all the banshees 3 inches in front of him died.
My son tries to explain that the farseer is not attached to the squad. But this guy cuts through him and starts demanding that he takes a test. He then starts shouting at him!!
Im painting in the on the next table, I quietly but firmly ask him to stop talking to my son like that. He now starts having a go at me, shouting and waving his army about!
If the manager of the store had not come over at that point the guy would have ending up on the floor.
Know one bullies a kid in front of me - especially not my son!
Later he came over and asked to look at my models before I could reply his hand was in my case. Lets just say he wont be coming in the store again
This hobby does attract a lot of people who struggle to function in normal society!
Its not always the kids that are at fault!
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Post by: Le Grognard
Kreenshaw wrote:fisticuffs... who still says fisticuffs?
I prefer to challenge my opponents to a contest of Pugilism.
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Post by: Golga
On a side note I have once witnessed fisticuffs over a game of war hammer 40k. This was way back when i use to live in Quebec. Some worker at the local gaming store and a friend of mine (big fellow. needless to say he won the fight and got banned. Never saw him again after that.) Had a 2000 point game going. Now this worker had a chaos army and he armed his aspiring champs with lascannons. After my friend patiently tried to explain it to him 5 times that he could not do this ( I think they had a better bs or something back in those days) Decided to pack up and leave. Now for some reason, mainly the idea that if word got out that he was not using the rules properly and no one would want to play him. This store associate came over and demanded that he finish the game. Needless to say about 5 minutes later he was on the ground with a broken nose and my friend stormed off.
And that is my story.
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Post by: mattyboy22
Anyone who throws models or dice, especially anyone over the age of twenty, should be staying at home playing video games because they are no where near mature enough to be out in public.
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Post by: Vladigar
BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
Seriously WTF?! 
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Post by: Durandal
There is one guy at my local store who is over 30, but must cheat in every game, even against 12 year olds who never played before.
I got stuck in a team battle with said kid who had never played before and had won 1000 pts of guard. Barely knowing the rules, he wanted to charge them forward into the maw of the guy's nob bikers. When I explained that wasn't a good idea and that he should sit back and shoot at them instead, the guy went nuts about how I should let the kid play and not try to teach him the rules or the game.
The guy griped every time I stopped to explain the rules to the kid, and then decided Snikrot had rending and could charge before being placed on the table. When I objected he asked if I wanted to step outside. We were about to throw down when the redshirt broke it up.
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Post by: Liquidwulfe
Kreenshaw wrote:ITG much?
I have a triple black belt in Roshambo.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
God forbid a Chaos player actually cares about the fluff! 
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Post by: J.Black
Liquidwulfe wrote:I have a triple black belt in Roshambo.
LOL
Maybe you should add Tae-Kwon-Crowbar to your repetoire...
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Post by: Greebynog
Nothing on topic to add.
With the blood bezerkers thing though, there was a bloke at my local GW who glued his own teeth to the base of his tomb giant. No kidding.
And with the 'cracker' thing, it's odd, in England, cracker means something that's really good, a varient of cracking. ie. "Did you see that shot? It was a cracker!" "Yeah, he's a cracking batsman"
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Post by: Hollismason
Many years ago during a game of second edition 40k two of my friends got in a physical knock down drag out fight over whether a template covered half a model. Including one of my firends monkeyflipping the other and doing a kip up.
It was like watching a reenactment of a Captain Kirk fight from Star Trek.
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Post by: greenskin lynn
i've never run into a gamer fight, but i have seen a few almost get knifed after making the girl who was always armed rather upset somehow.
on a side note-there have been gamings i've really wanted to smack some sense and social skills into
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:I've had my Ghazghkull thrown at me.
They call him killy for a reason.
No kidding. If his spikes are sharpened and well-pinned, they'll hurt!
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Post by: Cheese Elemental
I saw a really nasty fight at the FLGS recently. I was watching a little tourney, between a 12-year-old kid (playing Spase Marienz, duh), and one of the store staff (these are non-GW guys BTW). The kid tries to say that because Chaos Terminators have power weapons and not power fists as standard, loyalists must as well. Staff member calmly shows him both the Space Marine and spiky Marine codecies, but the kid wouldn't stand for it.
Picking up the hardcover rulebook (a really solid thing, that), he hit the FLGS staff member in the face and broke his nose. Suffice to say the rest of the crowd in the battlebunker weren't happy. We LITERALLY threw him out the door.
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Post by: Jimi Nemesis
There is a guy at my local GW who is known as Taylor, cos he waits for you to get your army out before choosing his list.
He irritates everyone
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Post by: Mattlov
Jimi Nemesis wrote:There is a guy at my local GW who is known as Taylor, cos he waits for you to get your army out before choosing his list.
He irritates everyone
Fake him out. Bring 2 lists, pull out the garbage list, make him choose his, then use your real one.
Or tell the bastard to have a list ready next time. See if he likes it when you do it to him.
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Post by: PanamaG
Augustus wrote:BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:Old Man Ultramarine wrote:Augustus wrote:Well, once, another gamer came up to my miniatures case, said something was cool and took it out to look at it without asking me. I told him thanks but he should ask first before reaching into someones case. He thought he would be smart guy and started touching the piece over and over to be a jack ...
So I punched him the neck, and he stopped.
Neck Punch FTW, lol.
Yea they go down like a Sack of Gak
It certainly lacked discretion, but the guy stopped and didn't think it was funny anymore after choking for a while. I was in my twenties then.
I think today, I would handle it differently but it did happen. I have never seen the guy again, not sure I would even recognize him.
Nice to see you have matured from your long childhood.....
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Post by: mattyboy22
Skinny little 26 year old who probably couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag says to the ex-navy seal: "Don't make me come across this table at you" We all have a hearty laugh.
Same kid, I helped run the league for the gaming store and a rule we instituted was we used the full scope of missions available (3rd ed) but each player could choose to re-roll the mission once. This was put into place to stop the possibly footslogging army having to run the Gauntlet, etc.
Well I am playing the Altioc Ranger Army and he has a fast Space Marine Army. We roll a mission he doesn't like so he takes his re-roll. We then roll night fight which would basically screw me over. I go to re-roll and he says "If you re-roll that mission I will deck you". I give him the "go ahead and try it" look but I decide it's not worth it and just tell him if he tried to hit me I would lay him out but we'll play the mission for S's & giggles. I still trounced him.
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Post by: Black Blow Fly
If you are so angry you feel like resorting to physical violence it's time to take a step back. The game is part of a hobby and should bring enjoyment into your life. There was only one time I was so angry I felt angry to punch my opponent. It was in the final round of a tournament and we were on one of the top tables. My opponent was cheating so bad that the TO came over to our table and remained there for the last two turns In an attempt to keep my opponent in check. Other players were coming over to watch and told him to stop with the crap he was trying to pull. When the game was over the TO had to total my opponent's victory points I had earned. It was a very close game and won a minor win by the bare minimum, one point away from a draw. My opponent became extremely vocal saying he had been cheated and his little band of followers decided to join in the act. The TO would have none of and stuck with the final outcome. I was ready for my opponent to retaliate but then I realized he was just another big bully. I had to eventually laugh. It was one of those games we are glad rarely ever occurs. Later I was told my opponent joined the military the week following our game and was shipped out of the area. We were all very glad. It is one of those games I will never forget. I have lost my share of the really close ones but I will always be in debt to the TO for stepping in when he did and putting an end to all that monkey business.
G
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Post by: Jack of all games
BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
Just be glad he wasn't playing Slaanesh
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Post by: bravelybravesirrobin
A friend of mine playing at my apartment once punched a hole in my wall when he forgot to assault with his seraphim.
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Post by: the_trooper
Heh, throwing dice is pretty tame. There is another guy at my FLGS that violently threw his dice against the wall. That dude works with kids too.
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Post by: Ratbarf
And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
You would be surprised how common this is, go take a look at the B&C forums for Khorne and you'll find a bunch of players who do something similar. (Me included, I mix it into the red gore paint.)
I once came close though when I was playing some french kids at the local club, when they started harasing me for being english.
Just tell them Montcalm was a (the rude word for heifer) and that Wolfe made them go down faster than a 16 year old on prom night.
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Post by: mattyboy22
Ratbarf wrote:And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
You would be surprised how common this is, go take a look at the B&C forums for Khorne and you'll find a bunch of players who do something similar. (Me included, I mix it into the red gore paint.)
Sorry dude but you need help.
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Post by: Lorgar's_Blessed
mattyboy22 wrote:Ratbarf wrote:And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
You would be surprised how common this is, go take a look at the B&C forums for Khorne and you'll find a bunch of players who do something similar. (Me included, I mix it into the red gore paint.)
Sorry dude but you need help.
While it is a bit weird, you got remember something. Once it's all been sealed, there is no hazard involved. You know have a model you nonestly put your BLOOD, sweat, and tears into. I say  to anyone who is crazy enough to do this.
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Post by: Cryonicleech
Wow. Dude, fist fighting over toy soldiers. Awesome!
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Post by: Augustus
PanamaG wrote:Augustus wrote:I think today, I would handle it differently but it did happen. I have never seen the guy again, not sure I would even recognize him.
Nice to see you have matured from your long childhood.....
Oh no, you misunderstand, now I think I would go for an arm bar, or a wrist lock instead. I have learned so much since then!
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Go for the wrist lock - you can apply a lot more pain compliance, and if they resist, you can break their wrist with far less effort. 
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Post by: assultmarine
ninja penguin you have nothing to gloat about.
shotokan rules deal with or boo a flight to ireland and a hospital bed too.
nothing personal.
assultmarine
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Post by: assultmarine
john as ive said use a good side kick to the stomach.. works in fights at scholl
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Post by: Chimera_Calvin
I was working at GW meadowhall when some chavs decided to disrupt the evening game. I and my colleague both politely asked them to leave. When they refused Bolly stepped out from behind the counter.
His other hobby was powerlifting, he worked as a bouncer to bring in extra cash and had forearms as big as my thighs. The first words out of the kids mouth were "ooh, look who's stepping up to have a go!" At this point I just shook my head as I expected there to be claret everywhere within seconds.
Fortunately for the kid in question his mates had half a brain cell between them and wisely backed off, taking the suicidally inclined one with them.
Ahh, the good old days....
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Never really seen a punch up over a Wargame. I've run into spolit little brats, sure, but I've never seen physical violent inflicted.
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
You loving that Berserker story your going to fething love this...
A girlfriend I had a few years ago loved playing Warhammer 40k and Warhammer I was in heaven a chick who actually played Warhammer but the only thing that riled me was her dick of a ex Boyfriend/fiance/thing now when we were down GW he would always glare stare whisper rile me right up but being the better man i stayed calm played my games tabled my opponents shook their hands painted socialised and basked in a life that was fun.
Then one day this dick who we will call steve walks up and goes I challenge you to Warhammer im like cool sure its a game then he adds for the hand of your girlfriend.
I never laughed so hard i laughed and i laughed and i laughed suffice to say other comments like "I am as secretive as the Dark Angels followed" oh the mirth oh the laughs
oh the barefaced sadness of it all........
But hey all in a days Warhammer i spose lol
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
mattyboy22 wrote:Ratbarf wrote:And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
You would be surprised how common this is, go take a look at the B&C forums for Khorne and you'll find a bunch of players who do something similar. (Me included, I mix it into the red gore paint.)
Sorry dude but you need help.
WHY??? for the love of god GET SOME HELP!
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Post by: generalgrog
This whole concept of painting your models with blood is wierd. But it apparantly is more common than we think, as we had a guy in Florida that painted his Korne army with blood. I think he ended up getting banned, but I could be wrong on that.
GG
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
HMMMMM yes still........
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Post by: two_heads_talking
Yeah, back in the day, a GW manager got his Dark Rider's destroyed in a game, he threw them at the wall..
that was akward, funny and dumb all at the same time.
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Post by: wyomingfox
BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:
And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood. No end of wackoness in Bristol UK............
Ratbarf wrote:And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
You would be surprised how common this is, go take a look at the B&C forums for Khorne and you'll find a bunch of players who do something similar. (Me included, I mix it into the red gore paint.)
generalgrog wrote:This whole concept of painting your models with blood is wierd. But it apparantly is more common than we think, as we had a guy in Florida that painted his Korne army with blood. I think he ended up getting banned, but I could be wrong on that.
GG
I can't even to begin to explain how disturbed I am by this trend . "Trying to get into the spirit of Korne"...you have got to be kidding me. Why would any sane person want to get into the spirit of a God GW portrays as a homicidal serial killer who daylights as a mass butcherer?
Ritalin for the Blood God...please!
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Post by: two_heads_talking
BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:You loving that Berserker story your going to fething love this...
A girlfriend I had a few years ago loved playing Warhammer 40k and Warhammer I was in heaven a chick who actually played Warhammer but the only thing that riled me was her dick of a ex Boyfriend/fiance/thing now when we were down GW he would always glare stare whisper rile me right up but being the better man i stayed calm played my games tabled my opponents shook their hands painted socialised and basked in a life that was fun.
Then one day this dick who we will call steve walks up and goes I challenge you to Warhammer im like cool sure its a game then he adds for the hand of your girlfriend.
I never laughed so hard i laughed and i laughed and i laughed suffice to say other comments like "I am as secretive as the Dark Angels followed" oh the mirth oh the laughs
oh the barefaced sadness of it all........
But hey all in a days Warhammer i spose lol
so, (sarcasm here) You were afraid you'd lose huh? lol 
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Post by: wyomingfox
BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:You loving that Berserker story your going to fething love this...
A girlfriend I had a few years ago loved playing Warhammer 40k and Warhammer I was in heaven a chick who actually played Warhammer but the only thing that riled me was her dick of a ex Boyfriend/fiance/thing now when we were down GW he would always glare stare whisper rile me right up but being the better man i stayed calm played my games tabled my opponents shook their hands painted socialised and basked in a life that was fun.
Then one day this dick who we will call steve walks up and goes I challenge you to Warhammer im like cool sure its a game then he adds for the hand of your girlfriend.
I never laughed so hard i laughed and i laughed and i laughed suffice to say other comments like "I am as secretive as the Dark Angels followed" oh the mirth oh the laughs
oh the barefaced sadness of it all........
But hey all in a days Warhammer i spose lol
I have to ask...how old were you guys at the time
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Post by: Gaznab
wyomingfox wrote:Tell me, do they play ANGRY Marines
Well in order of stories
guy 1 plays imperial guard and dwarfs was starting a tomb kings army and plays khador oh and he cant stand marines
guy 2 no longer plays
guy 3 plays all chaos all the time specifically warriors of chaos and chaos space marines
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Post by: BOSS_PIMPALOTZ
I was 23 he was 23 it was a weird old time may I say
His bleatings were seriously getting on my nerves but to be fair he proberly got into the hobby to cover the fact his dad (who was a pretty mind scarred ex soldier) threw himself off a bridge so all in all i pitied him in the end.
But still he got in pretty deep i mean emmersed himself into to the point that it was his life. I remember him living out of his car at one point no job no benefit just him his paints and his case a pretty sad existance and i took the last thing he gave a damn about off of him so all in all yea sad.
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Post by: frgsinwntr
Moz wrote:I've heard a lot of physical threats thrown around by socially awkward gamers, but never actually seen it come to blows.
I did encounter a guy who was telling other people at the store that he would 'show (me) what he could do in the parking lot', after he marched his poor tau army *forward* into the maw of my tyranids and quit on turn 2. I imagine that could have been interesting as I've never had a grown man cry on me in a parking lot, but nothing ever happened.
Reminded me a lot of highschool, good times.
haha! Yea... It bugs me when people get pissed over a game... "DUDE! You and me are playing with little plastic dolls! Don't make this any more silly"
Socially awkward is ok... but violent is not :(
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Post by: barlio
I've personally seen one act of violence. Myself and two of my friends were playing a game of M: TG and one of my friends had his girlfriend there. One of my buddies says that his birthday is coming up. My other friend's girlfriend asks him what he wants. In return he says something along the lines that a bj from her would be pretty good. My other friend turns around and punches him in the shoulder. She has a pissed look on her face, and I'm like . The anger over that lasted for about 10 minutes then I think they went and got high because later on everybody was cool.
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Post by: Brother Captain Andrecus
BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:I was 23 he was 23 it was a weird old time may I say
His bleatings were seriously getting on my nerves but to be fair he proberly got into the hobby to cover the fact his dad (who was a pretty mind scarred ex soldier) threw himself off a bridge so all in all i pitied him in the end.
But still he got in pretty deep i mean emmersed himself into to the point that it was his life. I remember him living out of his car at one point no job no benefit just him his paints and his case a pretty sad existance and i took the last thing he gave a damn about off of him so all in all yea sad.
So, wait? You took his girlfriend, but the hobby was his life? IDK, I think unless you took his miniatures away from him, he'd still have one thing, right? Anyway, yah that is pretty sad. I've never really gotten into physical violence over a game per se, but I have over 40k, sorta. There were "yo momma" jokes involved as well. My one friend is an absolute turd about Space Marines. He calls them little girls, says they're too weak to leave their power armor, and insists that they wouldn't be able to stand up without their four extra hearts. The only "fluff" he has ever read regarding Space Marines is the TSOALR archive. Normally, it doesn't bother me all that much, because I'm equally insulting about his beloved Tau. (Who totally stink, by the way!) But one time, he pushes it too far. I said "You wanna step outside?" I said this in jest, and normally he will scandalously flee from any kind of situation that might involve me beating the crap out of him, but this time he said "Yah! I'll bring you down, wiener-dog!" I have no idea why he called me a wiener-dog... I have no resemblance to a dachshund... But anyway. We stood outside and punched each-other lamely for a while. I totally won, but he would give you a different story. It wasn't really a fight so much as a bout of good-natured (mostly) sparring.
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Post by: Trench-Raider
Well, I'm impressed. I honestly expected to see a bunch of examples of the "internet tought guy syndrome" in this thread and a bunch of "ninja/martial artist master wanna be" crap. But there has not been. Color me suprised.
I've been wargaming since the early '80s and I've never seen an actual fist fight over a wargame. I've seen a few shouting matches and some really badly bruised feelings, which is bad enough, but never seen it actually get physical. Oddly enough the worst arguments I ever saw were at ancient tounries with big time prizes. (painted armies, etc) Things can get real touchy when there is that much at stake.
About the closest thing I ever saw was at a WW2 reenactment a number of years ago. One of the reenactors was jumpy and paniced when an "enemy" popped up at close range. He squeezed off a round and shot the guy right in the face with a blank round from his Garand at about five feet! For those who don't know, blanks can still be quite dangerous at close range as they still produce pressure and flame. It didn't injure the victim badly although he did get some burns and suffered some "tatooing"...unburnt gunpower lodged under the skin. However after he stopped the screaming and holding his face, the guy who got shot jumped on the shooter and started to beat the hell out of him. We had to pull him off the other guy. Not that I blamed him for the bad reaction to being shot like that, mind you....
Personally, I pride myself with being pretty even tempered. When I recently lost my cool and snapped at an opponent who was being an argumentative jerk it suprised everyone quite a bit down at the local historical club. But I'm just laid back like that. Outside of work, I've been involved in but one actual fight since High School and that was almost 20 years ago.
(Since the CHL law past in my state I'm almost always packing a loaded handgun in any event, and when you armed like that a responsible person must avoid conflicts and keep an even keel at all times.)
TR
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Post by: tastytaste
I have never hit anyone. I have certainly thrown dice at people before. Always when the rolls do not go my way. This of course only after intoxication.
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Post by: Grunt13
BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:
And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood. No end of wackoness in Bristol UK............
Ratbarf wrote:And the other dude who painted his Berserkers with his own blood.
You would be surprised how common this is, go take a look at the B&C forums for Khorne and you'll find a bunch of players who do something similar. (Me included, I mix it into the red gore paint.)
generalgrog wrote:This whole concept of painting your models with blood is wierd. But it apparantly is more common than we think, as we had a guy in Florida that painted his Korne army with blood. I think he ended up getting banned, but I could be wrong on that.
All right the artist in me has to ask, how does a blood paint job look. I assume its mixed with paint and probably given a varnish coat to cut down the ick factor. Anyone know?
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Post by: Brother Captain Andrecus
Don't know. Wouldn't want to know.
Anybody who paints with their own ichor is messed up.
And I will be the first to admit that there are many wackos on the B&C. I am one. :-D
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
This one time, I was playing this guy's biker nobs with my gray knights. Now, my rolls aren't great this game, but I use tactics pretty skillfully, and soon this guy's losing. I'm pretty happy, because this is the last round of the tournament, and I have a good shot at winning overall (my army won best painted three times in a row).
So, it gets down to the last turn, and I'm trying to kill the last nob with my grand master so I can win the game. It comes down to two invulnerable saves for the nob, he rolls... and fails both.
He gets pissed and declares a do over. I say no, of course, because this guy has already made way too many invulnerable saves. Then, I look at one of the dice and notice something; there are no ones. He added pips to make the ones into fives on half of his dice. When I call him on it he gets scared, and tries to punch me in the face across the table.
I grab his hand as he tries to hit me, and with a hard grip I snap the bones in it. The guy starts crying and whimpering, so I let him go. Then as I turn around to accept my 75$ store credit, he pulls out a knife with his other hand. I spin around and roundhouse kick the guy in the chest. The knife goes flying into the air and I catch it.
Then I hear someone from the doorway yell "nobody messes with the Wrecking Crew", and I see a bunch of gun carrying WC henchmen in ski masks trying to illegally make their member the winner. Thinking quick, I throw the knife at one of them, and he accidentally shoots the the second guy. The third guy shoots at me, but I jump around so he can't hit me, and I throw my gray knight grandmaster at his head. The nemesis force weapon that had entered his brain killed him instantly.
After that I accepted my award, and used the store credit to buy an Assault on Black Reach set for an orphanage.
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Post by: Brother Captain Andrecus
Rotfl.
AoBR for Orphans ought to be a real charity.
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Post by: Neconilis
Orkeosaurus wrote:This one time, I was playing this guy's biker nobs with my gray knights. Now, my rolls aren't great this game, but I use tactics pretty skillfully, and soon this guy's losing. I'm pretty happy, because this is the last round of the tournament, and I have a good shot at winning overall (my army won best painted three times in a row).
So, it gets down to the last turn, and I'm trying to kill the last nob with my grand master so I can win the game. It comes down to two invulnerable saves for the nob, he rolls... and fails both.
He gets pissed and declares a do over. I say no, of course, because this guy has already made way too many invulnerable saves. Then, I look at one of the dice and notice something; there are no ones. He added pips to make the ones into fives on half of his dice. When I call him on it he gets scared, and tries to punch in the face across the table.
I grab his hand as he tries to hit me, and with a hard grip I snap the bones in it. The guy starts crying and whimpering, so I let him go. Then as I turn around to accept my 75$ store credit, he pulls out a knife with his other hand. I spin around and roundhouse kick the guy in the chest. The knife goes flying into the air and I catch it.
Then I hear someone from the doorway yell "nobody messes with the Wrecking Crew", and I see a bunch of gun carrying WC henchmen in ski masks trying to illegally make their member the winner. Thinking quick, I throw the knife at one of them, and he accidentally shoots the the second guy. The third guy shoots at me, but I jump around so he can't hit me, and I throw my gray knight grandmaster at his head. The nemesis force weapon that had entered his brain killed him instantly.
After that I accepted my award, and used the store credit to buy an Assault on Black Reach set for an orphanage.
Brilliant, utterly brilliant, I salute you sir.
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Post by: Grunt13
Well done Orkeosaurus, you made my day.
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Post by: Mattlov
Paint your minis in blood, say you have AIDs and they aren't sealed. I bet no one touches them.
Ridiculous.
The only time I have seen physical violence over 40K involved a guy (now perma-banned from the FLGS) who literally stole two DIFFERENT kids' armies while they were in the store shopping. He put them in a box and took them out to his car.
When confronted by the half dozen of us who watched him do it, his response was classic:
"They left them here so they must want me to have them."
Really? That is some messed up logic right there.
Anyway, Senor FatAss decides we are all trying to make him look bad (it took no effort on our part to do that...) ans says HE will get all of US kicked out of the store for it.
Huh. More fuzzy logic.
So we talk to the store manager and tell him what is going on. FatAss of Failed Logic won't let anyone near his car, and the kids who lost their armies are freaking out over how belligerent the guy is getting. One of the kids can SEE his minis in the car and FatAss tries to punch him.
FatAss is about 30, by the way, kid is no more than 10.
Knowing FatAss like I do, I expected this to happen. I was ready for it. I give him a nice kick to the side of his knee.
I have some pretty sarcastic and quick-witted friends. This became EPIC. Right as I kicked him, one of my friends yells "TIMBER!" as FatAss collapses onto his car, then flops to the ground. I still remember the noise of 350-ish pounds of sweaty man-flesh slapping hot asphalt. Damn weird sound.
Anyway, I get into his car and retrieve the armies in question. FatAss still can't get up, we all walk back inside and call the cops. They know us well enough and we tell them FatAss will be calling them shortly. We never had to speak to the cops at all...
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Post by: G_Model101
I hear if you water down the blood it makes it last longer lol
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Post by: Frazzled
Hollismason wrote:Many years ago during a game of second edition 40k two of my friends got in a physical knock down drag out fight over whether a template covered half a model. Including one of my firends monkeyflipping the other and doing a kip up.
It was like watching a reenactment of a Captain Kirk fight from Star Trek.
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Post by: Frazzled
Trench-Raider wrote:Well, I'm impressed. I honestly expected to see a bunch of examples of the "internet tought guy syndrome" in this thread and a bunch of "ninja/martial artist master wanna be" crap. But there has not been. Color me suprised.
I've been wargaming since the early '80s and I've never seen an actual fist fight over a wargame. I've seen a few shouting matches and some really badly bruised feelings, which is bad enough, but never seen it actually get physical. Oddly enough the worst arguments I ever saw were at ancient tounries with big time prizes. (painted armies, etc) Things can get real touchy when there is that much at stake.
About the closest thing I ever saw was at a WW2 reenactment a number of years ago. One of the reenactors was jumpy and paniced when an "enemy" popped up at close range. He squeezed off a round and shot the guy right in the face with a blank round from his Garand at about five feet! For those who don't know, blanks can still be quite dangerous at close range as they still produce pressure and flame. It didn't injure the victim badly although he did get some burns and suffered some "tatooing"...unburnt gunpower lodged under the skin. However after he stopped the screaming and holding his face, the guy who got shot jumped on the shooter and started to beat the hell out of him. We had to pull him off the other guy. Not that I blamed him for the bad reaction to being shot like that, mind you....
Personally, I pride myself with being pretty even tempered. When I recently lost my cool and snapped at an opponent who was being an argumentative jerk it suprised everyone quite a bit down at the local historical club. But I'm just laid back like that. Outside of work, I've been involved in but one actual fight since High School and that was almost 20 years ago..
(Since the CHL law past in my state I'm almost always packing a loaded handgun in any event, and when you armed like that a responsible person must avoid conflicts and keep an even keel at all times.)
TR
Yes indeed. Beware of old guys in Hawaiian shirts. They are either packing and/or have teenagers (years of pent up rage just waiting to jump your ). Even worse they could be lawyers...
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Post by: namegoeshere
BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:I was 23 he was 23 it was a weird old time may I say
His bleatings were seriously getting on my nerves but to be fair he proberly got into the hobby to cover the fact his dad (who was a pretty mind scarred ex soldier) threw himself off a bridge so all in all i pitied him in the end.
But still he got in pretty deep i mean emmersed himself into to the point that it was his life. I remember him living out of his car at one point no job no benefit just him his paints and his case a pretty sad existance and i took the last thing he gave a damn about off of him so all in all yea sad.
I wouldn't have dated his girlfriend if I knew he was in that situation. I would have sympathy for him.
Never seen violence over a game - just sarcasm, and such
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Post by: Alazahr
At least someone appears to have the same rules as I do. Don't touch my gak. Plain and simple. I had a guy once do it... At a tournament... While on the board... He simply walked up and went, "Oh... Nice!" and picked up one of my models.
Another time I almost got into a fight w/ someone I considered a close friend. Over what I don't remember anymore due to the years, but it would have been a one-sided fight. I can easily handle my own now, but at the time I was maybe 19. He was about 30-35 and recently out of the Navy. He was also known for starting bad fights... Just 'cause. He got held back by another friend of ours and he chose to walk away.
This isn't a fight, but I once made an opponent cry at a tournament. It was his first tournament and I'm very competitive; very. Especially at tournaments. I believe it was a 1500pt. tournament and by the time it was done everything of his was off of the board and I lost a single model. (An armor save I failed by 1.) His Dad gave me a scowling look and hugged his kid. Poor guy... (Not really.) I later found out he was in the running to win 3rd and I bumped him out of the tournament. (His second loss.)
-J.
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Post by: Duce
namegoeshere wrote:BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:I was 23 he was 23 it was a weird old time may I say
His bleatings were seriously getting on my nerves but to be fair he proberly got into the hobby to cover the fact his dad (who was a pretty mind scarred ex soldier) threw himself off a bridge so all in all i pitied him in the end.
But still he got in pretty deep i mean emmersed himself into to the point that it was his life. I remember him living out of his car at one point no job no benefit just him his paints and his case a pretty sad existance and i took the last thing he gave a damn about off of him so all in all yea sad.
I wouldn't have dated his girlfriend if I knew he was in that situation. I would have sympathy for him.
Never seen violence over a game - just sarcasm, and such
Not getting at you, but just another angle, maybe the girl saw him in that situation and didnt want to be part of it anymore, its not the poster's fault if shes moved on and decided she likes the poster now over the guy in a bad situation.
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Post by: G_Model101
barlio wrote:I've personally seen one act of violence. Myself and two of my friends were playing a game of M:TG and one of my friends had his girlfriend there. One of my buddies says that his birthday is coming up. My other friend's girlfriend asks him what he wants. In return he says something along the lines that a bj from her would be pretty good. My other friend turns around and punches him in the shoulder. She has a pissed look on her face, and I'm like . The anger over that lasted for about 10 minutes then I think they went and got high because later on everybody was cool.
Magic the gathering= Smooth with the ladies
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Post by: Sidstyler
This thread makes me sad. Can't believe how weird or just downright screwed up some people are. The story about the fat guy stealing models from 10-year-olds is especially disturbing.
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Post by: Brother Captain Andrecus
And the three-hunerd and fifteh pounds of "sweaty man-flesh"?
Disturbing mental image, right there.
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Post by: frgsinwntr
Orkeosaurus wrote:This one time, I was playing this guy's biker nobs with my gray knights. Now, my rolls aren't great this game, but I use tactics pretty skillfully, and soon this guy's losing. I'm pretty happy, because this is the last round of the tournament, and I have a good shot at winning overall (my army won best painted three times in a row).
So, it gets down to the last turn, and I'm trying to kill the last nob with my grand master so I can win the game. It comes down to two invulnerable saves for the nob, he rolls... and fails both.
He gets pissed and declares a do over. I say no, of course, because this guy has already made way too many invulnerable saves. Then, I look at one of the dice and notice something; there are no ones. He added pips to make the ones into fives on half of his dice. When I call him on it he gets scared, and tries to punch me in the face across the table.
I grab his hand as he tries to hit me, and with a hard grip I snap the bones in it. The guy starts crying and whimpering, so I let him go. Then as I turn around to accept my 75$ store credit, he pulls out a knife with his other hand. I spin around and roundhouse kick the guy in the chest. The knife goes flying into the air and I catch it.
Then I hear someone from the doorway yell "nobody messes with the Wrecking Crew", and I see a bunch of gun carrying WC henchmen in ski masks trying to illegally make their member the winner. Thinking quick, I throw the knife at one of them, and he accidentally shoots the the second guy. The third guy shoots at me, but I jump around so he can't hit me, and I throw my gray knight grandmaster at his head. The nemesis force weapon that had entered his brain killed him instantly.
After that I accepted my award, and used the store credit to buy an Assault on Black Reach set for an orphanage.
LIES!!! You know greyknights can't win!
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Post by: Gwar!
Orkeosaurus, you sure I don't know you? You sound just like another Excellently Painted Grey Knights Player I know.
But alas, thou art a Yankke-Doodle, whereas my friend and I are Redcoats of the Crown!
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Post by: tahthing
Orkeosaurus wrote:This one time, I was playing this guy's biker nobs with my gray knights. Now, my rolls aren't great this game, but I use tactics pretty skillfully, and soon this guy's losing. I'm pretty happy, because this is the last round of the tournament, and I have a good shot at winning overall (my army won best painted three times in a row). [b] "my coment: believeable"
So, it gets down to the last turn, and I'm trying to kill the last nob with my grand master so I can win the game. It comes down to two invulnerable saves for the nob, he rolls... and fails both. "my coment:believeable"
He gets pissed and declares a do over. I say no, of course, because this guy has already made way too many invulnerable saves. Then, I look at one of the dice and notice something; there are no ones. He added pips to make the ones into fives on half of his dice. When I call him on it he gets scared, and tries to punch me in the face across the table. "my coment:beleiveable"
I grab his hand as he tries to hit me, and with a hard grip I snap the bones in it. The guy starts crying and whimpering, so I let him go. Then as I turn around to accept my 75$ store credit, he pulls out a knife with his other hand. I spin around and roundhouse kick the guy in the chest. The knife goes flying into the air and I catch it. "my coment:no longer believe the last paragraph and how did you know he pulled a knife out behinf you"
Then I hear someone from the doorway yell "nobody messes with the Wrecking Crew", and I see a bunch of gun carrying WC henchmen in ski masks trying to illegally make their member the winner. Thinking quick, I throw the knife at one of them, and he accidentally shoots the the second guy. The third guy shoots at me, but I jump around so he can't hit me, and I throw my gray knight grandmaster at his head. The nemesis force weapon that had entered his brain killed him instantly. "my coment:im now roleing on the floor laughing at this since its just what so many "internet tough guys" say"
After that I accepted my award, and used the store credit to buy an Assault on Black Reach set for an orphanage."my coment:who buys a assault on black reach for a orpanage when you can give them funding?"
yer after paragraph 4 it decends into bull gak.
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Post by: Gwar!
tahthing wrote:yer after paragraph 4 it decends into bull gak.
Gee, ya think? I think that was the whole point of the post, especially since grey Knights don't win ever
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Post by: Kreenshaw
Orkeosaurus wrote:This one time, I was playing this guy's biker nobs with my gray knights. Now, my rolls aren't great this game, but I use tactics pretty skillfully, and soon this guy's losing. I'm pretty happy, because this is the last round of the tournament, and I have a good shot at winning overall (my army won best painted three times in a row).
So, it gets down to the last turn, and I'm trying to kill the last nob with my grand master so I can win the game. It comes down to two invulnerable saves for the nob, he rolls... and fails both.
He gets pissed and declares a do over. I say no, of course, because this guy has already made way too many invulnerable saves. Then, I look at one of the dice and notice something; there are no ones. He added pips to make the ones into fives on half of his dice. When I call him on it he gets scared, and tries to punch me in the face across the table.
I grab his hand as he tries to hit me, and with a hard grip I snap the bones in it. The guy starts crying and whimpering, so I let him go. Then as I turn around to accept my 75$ store credit, he pulls out a knife with his other hand. I spin around and roundhouse kick the guy in the chest. The knife goes flying into the air and I catch it.
Then I hear someone from the doorway yell "nobody messes with the Wrecking Crew", and I see a bunch of gun carrying WC henchmen in ski masks trying to illegally make their member the winner. Thinking quick, I throw the knife at one of them, and he accidentally shoots the the second guy. The third guy shoots at me, but I jump around so he can't hit me, and I throw my gray knight grandmaster at his head. The nemesis force weapon that had entered his brain killed him instantly.
After that I accepted my award, and used the store credit to buy an Assault on Black Reach set for an orphanage.
Oh for the love of god... coke burns when it shoots up your nose.....
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Post by: skkipper
it hasn't lead to a fight yet.
Being a lash Player at tournaments. It is my right to move the other guys dudes. When he says"don't move my guys", I move them any way. it really throws them off their game. nerd rage kills their game playing ability.
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Post by: Gwar!
skkipper wrote:it hasn't lead to a fight yet.
Being a lash Player at tournaments. It is my right to move the other guys dudes. When he says"don't move my guys", I move them any way. it really throws them off their game. nerd rage kills their game playing ability.
Actually, no, you don't. You can ask your opponent to move them where you like. Touch their models and they are within their rights to smash your hand into a pulp. If you puled that on me I'd call a judge over ASAP, then smash your kneecaps in after the game. All in good fun of course.
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Post by: Vengis
skkipper wrote:it hasn't lead to a fight yet.
Being a lash Player at tournaments. It is my right to move the other guys dudes. When he says"don't move my guys", I move them any way. it really throws them off their game. nerd rage kills their game playing ability.
Are they upset that they're getting lashed, or are they upset that you're touching their models?
It's your right to dictate how to place the models, but you have no right to go touching other people's minis. ESPECIALLY if they say not to.
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Post by: Gwar!
I am assuming he is referring to people getting annoyed about touching their models, since being upset over being lashed is pretty silly, especially at a tournament.
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Post by: Demogerg
Regarding Bloody Khorn armies, ive known 1 person who painted a few models with some of his blood, but he actually was not that much into the game.
At a gaming store i used to go to i heard that another guy did this as well, but he was banned for general douchbaggery.
Ive never seen any fisticuffs over a tabletop, board, or card game though... and ive been involved with this hobby alone for more than a decade.
I can definately see some people doing stuff they regret afterwards.
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Post by: Gwar!
Oh I remember now, back when I was just a young lad in the early days of 3rd, I was watching a couple of guys play a game of 2nd edition and one guy brought his super broken Wolf Guard Cyclone Launcher List.
Fisticuffs ensued.
For those young Whipper-snappers who cont know why, its the equivalent of someone bringing 3 Lash Princes and it being totally Legal </Hyperbole>
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Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable
I've had blood drop onto some berserkers after a hobby knife incident. Didn't really stay though.
Not a fight, but at a Yugioh tournament I was in, there was a kid a table over playing one of the then Top 3 players in Texas. He apparently got beat pretty badly and got up to walk away, walking out the front door of the convention center. Someone then noticed the large puddle in his chair. He literally got the piss beat out of him
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Post by: Gwar!
Wow, over Yu-Gi-Oh?
Firstly, WTF is a grown man doing playing Yu-Gi-Oh? He should grow up and play Magic ffs.
Secondly, WHAT THE FETH IS A GROWN MAN DOING PLAYING YU-Gi-OH 
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Post by: wyomingfox
Gwar! wrote:Wow, over Yu-Gi-Oh?
Firstly, WTF is a grown man doing playing Yu-Gi-Oh? He should grow up and play Magic ffs.
Secondly, WHAT THE FETH IS A GROWN MAN DOING PLAYING YU-Gi-OH
I think the key word is KID.
On the other hand, when I was in Grad school, I knew of a 33 year old guy who played Yu-Gi-Oh all the time and had a huge selection. He also watched the cartoon on the TV and played the game on the PS2. Of course he also had a Big Plush Simba from the Lion King. When my room mate got sick, this guy gave him his...Simba to... borrow till he felt better.
You just can't make this stuff up.
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Post by: Demogerg
Gwar! wrote:Wow, over Yu-Gi-Oh?
Firstly, WTF is a grown man doing playing Yu-Gi-Oh? He should grow up and play Magic ffs.
Secondly, WHAT THE FETH IS A GROWN MAN DOING PLAYING YU-Gi-OH
did he mention it was a grown man, or a kid?
*EDIT* beaten to the punch!
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Post by: two_heads_talking
Here's the thing, if you are asked not to touch someting and you do, and you end up with broken fingers, don't look stupid at the guy that just did it.. He did warn you.
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Post by: Gwar!
I can only assume it was a grown man as 12 year olds rarely fit the profile "Top 3 Players In Texas", especially in the relm of creepy-nerds-who-play-CHILDRENS-CARD-GAMES! (A Cookie if you get the reference )
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Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable
"Oh Black Luster Soldier, noone must know of our forbidden love"
I played Yu-Gi-OH! for a good while. I Top 8ed twice and I'm 23. It really doesn't bug me, and in some ways is a superior game to Magic. The differences are minor and technical.
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Post by: Reecius
Pokeman, the lowest of the low! They used to bug us to give them money in the old FLGS, so annoying.
I almost got into a fight with a guy playing 40K, I am ashamed to admit. He was being so unbelievably obstinate over every little minor thing, which caused me to start acting like an ass too and things just escalated. Fingers were in faces, voices were raised, blood pressure sky rocketed. Once the verbal insults started flying I thought it was going to go down for sure.
Then, thankfully, I took a deep breath, realized I was being as much of an A-hole as the other guy was and sucked it up, apologized for my wrongs and we decided to just end the game instead of continuing something neither of us was enjoying.
Other than that though, my games are usually all laughs or jokes, or just quiet intensity broken by bouts of expletives when I throw a crappy handfuls of dice on the table!
Being nice goes a long way to making a game more enjoyable. Nitpicking stuff just makes it less fun. Save that stuff for a tournament, in a pick up game just give your opponent the benefit of the doubt and enjoy the game.
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Post by: Gwar!
Yes apart from the fact Magic is far more mature and is a much better system and doesn't have the need to add 65 zeros onto the end of everything to make it seem cool.
Not to mention its the Original and best TCG ;P
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Post by: wyomingfox
Gwar! wrote:Yes apart from the fact Magic is far more mature and is a much better system and doesn't have the need to add 65 zeros onto the end of everything to make it seem cool.
Not to mention its the Original and best TCG ;P
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Post by: Corpsesarefun
Gwar! wrote:I can only assume it was a grown man as 12 year olds rarely fit the profile "Top 3 Players In Texas", especially in the relm of creepy-nerds-who-play-CHILDRENS-CARD-GAMES! (A Cookie if you get the reference )
YuGiOh Abridged FTW!
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Post by: Nydhog
Gwar! wrote:Yes apart from the fact Magic is far more mature and is a much better system and doesn't have the need to add 65 zeros onto the end of everything to make it seem cool.
Not to mention its the Original and best TCG ;P
Original isn't always better. For instance, Slutman was the original GWAR singer and sucked. Brockie is far superior.
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Post by: Gwar!
LIES! VIVA LA SLUTMAN!
But seriously, MTG is by far one of, if not THE, best TGC system around. The only one (imo) that comes even close is the VS. System, but I haven't played much of it so I cant really say. </Epic MTG nerdgasm>
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Post by: Toastix
A Nerf gun fight broke out in my FLGS last weekend. Till they shot over some models that I just finished painting. All in all it was pretty funny.
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Post by: Nydhog
Gwar! wrote:LIES! VIVA LA SLUTMAN!
But seriously, MTG is by far one of, if not THE, best TGC system around. The only one (imo) that comes even close is the VS. System, but I haven't played much of it so I cant really say. </Epic MTG nerdgasm>
Before I adress that statement, I actually get to hangout with the GWAR guys fairly often. One of my bandmates is best friends with Brockie, Derks, and Smoot. He lived with Dave and Derks for a little bit very recently till he had to move back because his dad died. Good guys. Really smart, nice, and polite and great musicians.
ANYWAY, Yes its a GREAT CCG and a GREAT system but some people may prefer others. I enjoy Yugi-oh as it is a different card game style. Personal preference.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Chimera_Calvin wrote:I was working at GW meadowhall when some chavs decided to disrupt the evening game.
"chavs"? "chaps"?
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Gwar! wrote:skkipper wrote:Being a lash Player at tournaments. It is my right to move the other guys dudes. When he says"don't move my guys", I move them any way.
Actually, no, you don't. You can ask your opponent to move them where you like. Touch their models and they are within their rights to smash your hand into a pulp. If you puled that on me I'd call a judge over ASAP, then smash your kneecaps in after the game.
All in good fun of course.
Amen.
I'll move my models, not my opponent.
Lash is NOT a license for people to paw their opponent's minis.
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Post by: Gwar!
JohnHwangDD wrote:Chimera_Calvin wrote:I was working at GW meadowhall when some chavs decided to disrupt the evening game.
"chavs"? "chaps"?
Chav is a deliciously British term meaning pretty much anyone nowadays who is under the age of 23. I kid I kid, it only applies to inner city scum The closest Yanky term I can translate it into would be "Trailer trash" or "white trash"
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Oh, thanks for the British to English translation.
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Post by: Mattlov
You should try saltine crackers out the nose... 
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Post by: Gwar!
JohnHwangDD wrote:Oh, thanks for the British to English translation.
Shush you. We speak English, you speak Bastard Child Colonial. But we already have a thread somewhere for English to American Translations somewhere, so I shan't clutter this one any more.
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Post by: skkipper
JohnHwangDD wrote:Gwar! wrote:skkipper wrote:Being a lash Player at tournaments. It is my right to move the other guys dudes. When he says"don't move my guys", I move them any way.
Actually, no, you don't. You can ask your opponent to move them where you like. Touch their models and they are within their rights to smash your hand into a pulp. If you puled that on me I'd call a judge over ASAP, then smash your kneecaps in after the game.
All in good fun of course.
Amen.
I'll move my models, not my opponent.
Lash is NOT a license for people to paw their opponent's minis.
I would love to have somebody try to hurt me. there is a certain respect for mini's that a very pretty but we are playing a game and I am moving your guys. it would really suck for the table to get tipped on accident.
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Post by: Gwar!
No, you are telling me where to move my guys. I think everyone here will agree that if you touch our models without our permission, you get a crowbar to the knees.
And tip the table all you want, all it will mean is the judge bans you and you get a chop across the windpipe "accidentally"
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Post by: Frazzled
skkipper wrote:
I would love to have somebody try to hurt me. there is a certain respect for mini's that a very pretty but we are playing a game and I am moving your guys. it would really suck for the table to get tipped on accident.
Um no, you're not.
Unless you're family or one of two guys I've known for years, you do not touch my minis without permission. EVER.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
The rules in the chaos codex do not overturn the property rights of the model's owner.
You have no more right to start messing with people models than anyone else. Your lash prince doesn't enter into it, hate to tell ya.
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Post by: skkipper
Orkeosaurus wrote:The rules in the chaos codex do not overturn the property rights of the model's owner.
You have no more right to start messing with people models than anyone else. Your lash prince doesn't enter into it, hate to tell ya.
your right you have the right to pick up your guys and quit, until then here is some cheese to go with the whine. heck I might even go get me some cheetos to aid in palming your dolls.
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Post by: Gwar!
Um, no. We have the right to call the TO or Judge and have them DQ your ass.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
skkipper wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:I'll move my models, not my opponent.
Lash is NOT a license for people to paw their opponent's minis.
I would love to have somebody try to hurt me. there is a certain respect for mini's that a very pretty but we are playing a game and I am moving your guys. it would really suck for the table to get tipped on accident.
Yeah? [ITG] And I guess it would suck even more for me to shove that table leg up your ass after I stomp your face into the ground. On accident. [/ITG]
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Post by: Frazzled
I think you fail to understand the gravity of the situation. That can only be fixed in this manner
Yeah?
And I guess it would suck even more for me to shove that table leg up your ass after I stomp your face into the ground.
On accident.
The Above quote in no way can be considered legal practice. One should always consult an attorney before shoving a table leg up the ass of someone trying to touch their mini. Results may vary by state. 
I need to get too work don't I...
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Post by: Gwar!
I think this is more appropriate:
@skkipper:
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Post by: Frazzled
Modquisition on:
This thread has been reported. Let us remember the Dakka Rule #1, and further remember, nerd rage, while incredibly funny inevitably leads to images of Mussolini and Barney, together again.
ok seriously, everyone play nice here or be smitten by the hammer O Dakka.
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Post by: Brother Captain Andrecus
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I've had blood drop onto some berserkers after a hobby knife incident. Didn't really stay though.
I've had blood drop onto my keyboard after having my idiot pet reptile mistake my thumb for food. Almost the same thing, right? Also, playing against a Lash-user is bad enough. But if said Lash-user actually moves my models without permission? That's not acceptable. It's "I move my models where you tell me to," not "you move my models for me." *Edited to avoid hammer o' Dakka*
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Post by: Trench-Raider
Unless you're family or one of two guys I've known for years, you do not touch my minis without permission. EVER.
Quoted for truth as the kiddies say.....
You want to get a very dirty look and a snide/rude comment from ol' Trenchie? Go pick up his models without first asking. That's one of my big time pet peves.
Just last week I had to get on to a player who really should have known better. I put my stuff down on a table at the LGS and turned my back for a few minutes to talk to someone. I turn back around and what do I see? Someone who had picked up one of my old RT drednaughts from an open box and had walked halfway across the shop to show it to someone else. I about had a stroke.
TR
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
skkipper wrote:Orkeosaurus wrote:The rules in the chaos codex do not overturn the property rights of the model's owner.
You have no more right to start messing with people models than anyone else. Your lash prince doesn't enter into it, hate to tell ya.
your right you have the right to pick up your guys and quit, until then here is some cheese to go with the whine. heck I might even go get me some cheetos to aid in palming your dolls.
Don't throw a fit because you don't understand that the law supercedes your toy soldier rules.
I can put just as many Cheetos on your dolls as you can on mine, and the big pink dolls in your army don't mean gak.
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Post by: Frazzled
Been there (trenchie comment)
OT is that image photoshopped, it lokos like his wrist is broken and flapping loose. Thats disconcerting actually.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Frazzled wrote:I think you fail to understand the gravity of the situation.
Huh?
I thought everyone understood that we were playing a game of "who can post the best ITG response"...
No?
Pfft.
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Post by: Gwar!
Trench-Raider wrote:I put my stuff down on a table at the LGS and turned my back for a few minutes to talk to someone. I turn back around and what do I see? Someone who had picked up one of my old RT drednaughts from an open box and had walked halfway across the shop to show it to someone else. I about had a stroke.
TR
And aren't you in a state where they have concealed weapon licences? These people should know better. Taking bets now, Trenchie vs Skkiper. I put $100 on trenchie in the Gameroom with the Assault Rifle.
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Post by: Brother Captain Andrecus
Yah. They shouldn't mess with ol Trenchie! Specially cuz he's packin' heat!
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Post by: generalgrog
Speaking of concealed weapons, there was a guy that got in an argument at a tourney, and told the guy he was arguing with that he had a gun in his car. Hows that for intimidation!
By the way said guy is banned from many stores in the local area.
GG
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Post by: Frazzled
JohnHwangDD wrote:Frazzled wrote:I think you fail to understand the gravity of the situation.
Huh?
I thought everyone understood that we were playing a game of "who can post the best ITG response"...
No?
Pfft.
Well, one just camp drop in Mussolini without an intro now can one.
Did you see the edit with your note, I liked that.
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Post by: Brother Captain Andrecus
I don't get the Mussolini-Barney thing though? What's that supposed to mean?
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Post by: Frazzled
generalgrog wrote:Speaking of concealed weapons, there was a guy that got in an argument at a tourney, and told the guy he was arguing with that he had a gun in his car. Hows that for intimidation!
By the way said guy is banned from many stores in the local area.
GG
1. Gun in car means the guy with the IWB holster is going to win the argument, just saying...
Modquisition on-no bets of members in a shootout in a store unless it involves something humorous such as GW spray guns. Now THAT would be humorous.
I don't get the Mussolini-Barney thing though? What's that supposed to mean?
It means its Friday and I am an hour away from the long drive to see mi familia.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Frazzled wrote:OT is that image photoshopped, it lokos like his wrist is broken and flapping loose. Thats disconcerting actually.
I think it's shopped. I can tell by the pixels, and from having seen quite a shops in my time.
It might be a shop of the original "No U!" picture, where he was pointing and had more of an angry look.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Frazzled wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:Frazzled wrote:I think you fail to understand the gravity of the situation.
Huh?
I thought everyone understood that we were playing a game of "who can post the best ITG response"...
No?
Pfft.
Well, one just camp drop in Mussolini without an intro now can one.
Too true!
Frazzled wrote:
Did you see the edit with your note, I liked that.
Thanks! 
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Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable
How is Magic better? Seriously, justify it. And Just because Rush came before Dream Theater doesn't mean they're better. Yu-Gi-Oh! manages to avoid the crap related to having a resource-based system while also giving tons more flexibility. My 8-drop equivalents can come out first turn if I want, or I can make sure you never draw a card. Magic is so... limiting. Even the best tourney deck with the most mana acceleration will eventually Mulligan down to a few cards to get a land. I'm not saying one is better than the other, I think both have merit. Magic ain't flawless and with an interest in game design as a hobby of mine, I don't think Magic is anything all that fancy (not trying to pull authority, just saying I have interest).
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Post by: Gwar!
And how the hell is a game where just because you go first I never get to draw a card is fun?
At least in MTG that is restricted to Vintage which is a) not very Popular (Standard is the staple for tournaments) b) Hard to get into anyway.
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Post by: Sidstyler
Before I adress that statement, I actually get to hangout with the GWAR guys fairly often. One of my bandmates is best friends with Brockie, Derks, and Smoot. He lived with Dave and Derks for a little bit very recently till he had to move back because his dad died. Good guys. Really smart, nice, and polite and great musicians.
Wait a minute, GWAR? Nice guys? POLITE?
@skkipper: LMAO, way to fail! This thread has been filled with nothing but jokes about Internet Tough Guy syndrome, and here you come waltzing in, claiming that it's your god-given right to be an donkey-cave and disrespect other people's property, and threaten violence against those who refuse.
That's a good way to ensure you never get a game outside a tournament. I know I'd never play you.
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Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable
Gwar! wrote:And how the hell is a game where just because you go first I never get to draw a card is fun?
At least in MTG that is restricted to Vintage which is a) not very Popular (Standard is the staple for tournaments) b) Hard to get into anyway.
a) In Traditional (no ban list) it's very possible but also isn't by any stretch the most popular. In Standard it's very difficult to accomplish and requires a good build and can't just happen in one turn. I'm just using that as an example of what you can go for; your straight Aggro deck could eat my lunch long before I can do anything like that. b) That statement is impossibly subjective. Magic isn't hard to get into? So I can just pop a starter deck out and go to town on someone? Oh, you mean EVERY card game has a few decks that beat all the others in any given format?
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Post by: Gwar!
No, you don't understand.
"No Ban List" is not vintage, that's standard. Vintage has a Restricted List that restricts a lot of the older broken cards to 1 per deck. Legacy has a Banlist, and Extended is the last 7 years of Magic Cards.
Vintage and Legacy Staples are very expensive as they are out of print.
Standard is the Latest Core Set and last 2 Major Blocks, and has a lot more balanced cards. Yes of course there are decks that are "better" than others, but that's the same in ANY game, even in Warhammer (Lash > Grey Knights)
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Post by: Kreenshaw
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
b) That statement is impossibly subjective. Magic isn't hard to get into? So I can just pop a starter deck out and go to town on someone
\\\\Sarcasm on\\\\\
Sweet just let me get out my box of dual lands and I'll play your starter deck
\\\\\Sarcasm off\\\\
Magic is so easy to get into.....if you have a platinum card that mommy and daddy pay off for you!
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Post by: Gwar!
Kreenshaw wrote:Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
b) That statement is impossibly subjective. Magic isn't hard to get into? So I can just pop a starter deck out and go to town on someone
Sarcasm on////// Sweet just let me get out my box of dual lands and I'll play your starter deck
Only dual lands? N00b. My manaless Ichorid will eat you for breakfast! You should at least have a playset of Duals, Fetches and Mishra lands. Otherwise you are not worth my time
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Post by: Cannerus_The_Unbearable
I understand perfectly. And "banning" anything that's pre-Tenth edition is the same as a ban list even if they say it's not. It's not fun for a large fraction of my collectio nto be useless every few years, rather than a small broken fraction. I'm willing to call it even if you admit Yu-Gi-Oh! is a legitimate game.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
@Cannerus: Why is this here?
Magic works precisely *because* it has, and uses, a resource mechanic at its core. That's how the game was designed, so that there would be some buildup to force a game resolution.
Also, the idea that a well-designed deck would have to mulligan down to less than 4 cards to get a mana is nonsense, but the odds of this happening are miniscule in the extreme. Again, that's the point of doing deck design and testing, so you avoid these kinds of things as any sort of regular problem...
Anyhow, there's nothing wrong with Yugioh per se, it's different and that's fine.
But to hold Magic to a "flawless" standard is silly. Magic is an excellent game, and far better than nearly anything else which has come out since 1993.
____
So Magic has various formats that are time sequenced? So what? If you can't / won't play vintage, nobody forces you.
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Post by: Gwar!
Cann, play legacy Then. All it bans is the Broken old cards from Alpha, Beta and Urzas. But other than a very few number of cards, everything is legal to play.
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Post by: Brother Captain Andrecus
Magic the Gathering, I take it, has something to do with gamer fisticuffs?
If so, please, by all means, continue! This is most amusing.
P.S.Itisnotamusingstopityouarewayofftopicnowplzkthxbai!
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Gwar: "Legacy" is Type 1.5, right?
I thought that they Banned more than Type 1 ("Vintage").
Type 1 Bans only about a dozen cards total, of which the bulk are Ante Cards (to conform to US gambling laws), which haven't been created for more than a decade. The overwhelming majority of the cards printed are valid, although some are Restricted to 1 per deck.
Type 1.5 Bans a whopping (heh) 64 cards, including most of the "strong" stuff which might be restricted.
Considering the sheer number of Magic cards printed (over ten thousand), that the list of "problem" cards is well under a hundred isn't too bad, given that Legacy / Vintage card pools still number over 10,000 unique cards to play with...
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Post by: Gwar!
T1 is vintage, here they only ban Ante and "Physical" Cards like Chaos Orb, but they restrict a lot of powerful cards. Other than that, no Card is "banned".
T1.5 is Legacy, rather than restrict the problem (aka broken) cards, they just outright ban them. The great thing here is that (unlike GW) they errata their older cards so that they can be used, and even have every single card ever made free to view on-line. Not only that, but they review their Banned/Restricted Lists ever 3 months and issue new errata every 3 months.
If WotC can do that to 10k+ Cards every 3 months, how hard is it for GW to do it ONCE and update all the codex's at once?
The answer is "Not very but they are greedy gaks."
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Keep in mind that WotC is a rules company, not a minis company. If GW ever became a rules company, I suppose they'd change their focus accordingly.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Gwar! Being familiar with Magic the Gathering, can you tell me if anyone anywhere actually found a useful, erm, use, for Arcance Spyglass?
Closest my group came to was scraping melted chocolate off the backseat of my car!
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Post by: Nofasse 'Eadhunta
This is a thread about fighting over Warhammer. Not a thread about whether Magick: The Fethering is better than You-Gay-Hoe or other Trade Your Card Games.
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Post by: anticitizen013
Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:This is a thread about fighting over Warhammer. Not a thread about whether Magick: The Fethering is better than You-Gay-Hoe or other Trade Your Card Games.
I was literally just about to say that... I thought I clicked on the wrong thread, hahah.
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Post by: Gwar!
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Gwar! Being familiar with Magic the Gathering, can you tell me if anyone anywhere actually found a useful, erm, use, for Arcance Spyglass?
Closest my group came to was scraping melted chocolate off the backseat of my car!
A coaster is as far as I got. best card ever is Spellbook however
Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:This is a thread about fighting over Warhammer. Not a thread about whether Magick: The Fethering is better than You-Gay-Hoe or other Trade Your Card Games.
Shush you, this is what is called a thread derailment, as soon as someone has another story about fighting over warhammer, we'll go back on track. Until then:
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Post by: skkipper
Sidstyler wrote:
@skkipper: LMAO, way to fail! This thread has been filled with nothing but jokes about Internet Tough Guy syndrome, and here you come waltzing in, claiming that it's your god-given right to be an donkey-cave and disrespect other people's property, and threaten violence against those who refuse.
That's a good way to ensure you never get a game outside a tournament. I know I'd never play you.
I never threatened violence. I just said the way I play could lead to violence. which would lead to assault charges but read it how you will.
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Post by: Gwar!
Assault charges?
"Excuse me officer, I am glad you came. This man was attempting to steal my stuff, so I confronted him, at which point he struck me. I, In self defence, struck him back with reasonable force and seem to have knocked him unconscious. I am sure you will find the rest of the room to corroborate my story."
Hell in the Nutjob land that is the US I wouldn't even have to justify it, you touch me and I can kill you in "self defence" no problem.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
@Gwar: to be fair, he just didn't clarify that any assault charges would be levied against him.
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Post by: dameanone
Gwar! wrote:Assault charges?
"Excuse me officer, I am glad you came. This man was attempting to steal my stuff, so I confronted him, at which point he struck me. I, In self defence, struck him back with reasonable force and seem to have knocked him unconscious. I am sure you will find the rest of the room to corroborate my story."
Hell in the Nutjob land that is the US I wouldn't even have to justify it, you touch me and I can kill you in "self defence" no problem.
Yup and go to prison for manslaughter or murder possibly.
But I agree with you Gwar, if someone feels their playing style could lead to assault charges wth are you doing in public?
On topic I would never ever get into a physical fight with someone over Warhammer. I would only defend myself from said attack. I guess the area I grew up in West Philadelphia, has taught me to not start fights unless you are willing to take the chance of getting shot/stabbed/gang beaten. Hell I was 13 when some kid got cut with a boxcutter in school over freaking Pokemon!!
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Post by: Gwar!
dameanone wrote:
Yup and go to prison for manslaughter or murder possibly.
Yes, because America ISN'T the land where people get off scot free for killing teens because the were looking at them funny... oh wait. In the UK you kill someone trying to kill YOU you get strung up big time. In the US I doubt they would give a toss. But anyway, I digress. I am not saying I would kick Skkipers ass if he touched my models, far from it. I'd call a judge/ TO and get him DQ'd. If he threw the first punch however, I would most certainly retaliate.
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Post by: dameanone
While there are a shocking amount of cases in which people do get off scot free for killing someone, there are many many instances of people shooting in true self defense and going to jail or having charges brought against them.
The way you say it makes it seem as if we run around playing cowboys and indians. To phrase it with this terminology is erroneous.
However, (and without getting too far into it) a problem we face in the U.S. is the shocking rate at which a persons race is factored into these gun related incidents. This trend is something we experience at a much higher rate as opposed to other nations.
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Post by: Gwar!
Still, Id much rather take my chances as a Well spoken White guy in the US than in the UK. I mean, seriously, in the UK if you are black/Asian you can get away with anything because if the police make even a single mistake the whole case gets thrown out because of "racism".
Of course if you are Arab you just get detained for 3 months without charge before the Americans "borrow" you.
Oh God-Emperor how the hell did this thread get so derailed
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Post by: dameanone
Who knows but your spot on man! Hell here if your black you can get shot for looking funny at a cop.
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Post by: ph34r
Gwar! wrote:Oh God-Emperor how the hell did this thread get so derailed
It seems to be due to some asshat named "Gwar!"
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Post by: Gwar!
ph34r wrote:Gwar! wrote:Oh God-Emperor how the hell did this thread get so derailed
It seems to be due to some asshat named "Gwar!"
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
skkipper wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:Gwar! wrote:skkipper wrote:Being a lash Player at tournaments. It is my right to move the other guys dudes. When he says"don't move my guys", I move them any way.
Actually, no, you don't. You can ask your opponent to move them where you like. Touch their models and they are within their rights to smash your hand into a pulp. If you puled that on me I'd call a judge over ASAP, then smash your kneecaps in after the game. All in good fun of course.
Amen. I'll move my models, not my opponent. Lash is NOT a license for people to paw their opponent's minis.
I would love to have somebody try to hurt me. there is a certain respect for mini's that a very pretty but we are playing a game and I am moving your guys. it would really suck for the table to get tipped on accident.
Have you ever actually been kicked in the nuts before? Because having an older Brother, and thus having been podded more times than I care to recant, I can tell you the following.... 1. It REALLY hurts. 2. You're cack all use for the next 5-10 minutes. 3. Whilst you're being cack all use for the next 5-10 minutes, you're a sitting Duck for the more violently inclined to finish off your brief humiliation with style, panache, and few more stomps on the pills whilst they're at it. Never say you'd like someone to try to hurt you. Invariably, especially in a pub, someone will ovehear and frankly delight in giving you a damned good panelling. And this may not be a pub, and the people here are unlikely to hunt you down to fulfil your ferverent wish. But, and it's a big but, we will think you're a knob. Probably forever. And nobody really wants to be on their death bed, regretting a foolish statement of Interweb Tough Guy proportions, because they know out there, somewhere, are still a handful of people who read aforementioned silly statement, and still think you're a knob.
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Post by: Sidstyler
skkipper wrote:I never threatened violence.
You just hinted at it so vaguely that it was practically a threat but you could claim otherwise when called on it.
And now you bring up assault charges, really? If someone did punch you in the face I'd say it's your own damn fault. You willfully disrespect your opponent's wishes and seem to take pride in the fact that you're an donkey-cave, you deliberately try to get people to react negatively to your "playing style", and then have the balls to say you'll press charges if they do? If it were me having to deal with you I personally would just pack up my models and leave, I wouldn't go ITG and threaten to beat you for touching my stuff after I told you to stop, but really if it ever happened in the first place then I think you should bend over and accept what you were clearly asking for, rather than running off and crying to mommy/the cops.
If people don't want you touching their gak, then don't fething touch their gak. Why is that so hard to understand? I very nearly got into it with a guy at work once because he wouldn't stop throwing food and garbage at my new (to me) car after I confronted him the first time and asked him to stop because I didn't like having my property disrespected like that. Apparently some people just think everything's a god-damned joke and can't comprehend why anyone wouldn't find their behavior charming and hilarious, so he kept doing it and telling me to "lighten up and laugh about it".
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Post by: JD21290
Modquisition on-no bets of members in a shootout in a store unless it involves something humorous such as GW spray guns. Now THAT would be humorous.
So concealed mini chainsaw fights are out of the question? :(
would be kinda like a mini gears of war
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
It's not a shootout if chainsaws are used. Usually.
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Post by: Nerf_IG
I installed a Picatinny rail system on my spray gun so I could attach my official GW Markerlight on top. This has come in handy countless times, since every Warhams player knows sometimes you just have to "go loud" on some kids who are grabbing your toy tanks.
In case that doesn't work, I've installed several firecrackers with remote detonators inside each of my Russes and Chimeras. If one of those little imps manages to make off with my stuff, I can blow the tanks to pieces from a distance of up to 275 yards (confirmed range, possibly up to 350). If I can't have it, nobody can. It also makes Apoc. games much more exciting when your Baneblade goes down and you roll a six. No need to roll for the explosion radius OR remove the models affected!
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
skkipper wrote:I never threatened violence.
So tables just happen to flip over for no good reason when you're around? Riight... If that's the world you live in, feel free to make the rounds at Dakka - lots of "accidents" can occur... ____ PS I could care less about you, but it's really hard for us to respect your ITG persona when you pussy out like that.
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Post by: AgeOfEgos
Orkeosaurus wrote:It's not a shootout if chainsaws are used. Usually.
Quite right
I play 40k 2v2 with this guy. I never have rule debates.
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Post by: Gwar!
I play with this guy:
I also never have rule debates.
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Post by: JD21290
where the feth do all these random ass pics come from? lol
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Post by: Nerf_IG
JD21290 wrote:where the feth do all these random ass pics come from? lol
The dark and terrifying place that is The Internet.
To be more specific it's usually some webcomic or 4chan/ SA/other "humor" websites
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Post by: JD21290
yea, but why the feth is there so many random things like this?
wheres the chainsaw koalas?
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Koalas are technically a marsupial.
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Post by: JD21290
didnt say they were any different, just wondering why there arent any
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Well, a bear can easily survive chainsaw augmentation, and be all the deadlier for it.
With a marsupial that's just not a realistic option. When you go to a zoo, how many koalas, or kangaroos have chainsaw-based limbs? Few, if any. It simply does not work, physiologically. It's like trying to splice pig and elephant DNA or something.
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Post by: wyomingfox
Chainsaws are a bit too big for the little buggers...they prefer the lightweight hand axe
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
IBFTL!
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Post by: Nofasse 'Eadhunta
Gwar! wrote:Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Gwar! Being familiar with Magic the Gathering, can you tell me if anyone anywhere actually found a useful, erm, use, for Arcance Spyglass?
Closest my group came to was scraping melted chocolate off the backseat of my car!
A coaster is as far as I got. best card ever is Spellbook however
Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:This is a thread about fighting over Warhammer. Not a thread about whether Magick: The Fethering is better than You-Gay-Hoe or other Trade Your Card Games.
Shush you, this is what is called a thread derailment, as soon as someone has another story about fighting over warhammer, we'll go back on track. Until then:
Or lack thereof
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Post by: yakface
This thread has gotten quite off topic, and therefore is being locked.
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