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Post by: yani
Not sure if this has been posted but got it in my inbox about 5 mins ago from GW.
The brand spanking new Ironclad
Its cc weapon.
The siesmic Hammer
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Post by: bigtmac68
Well I had not seen it before, looks frakking awesome to me, ill be grabbing 3 for my Vulcan List, thats for sure!
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Post by: warpcrafter
Looks more than a little top-heavy. Bet it's hell in close combat.
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Post by: ph34r
I really dislike the close combat weapons and top mounted missiles. The fists are way too huge, and the missiles look tacked on.
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Post by: Savnock
Now THAT is what a dred should look like. Ace.
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Post by: oni
The email was sent out prematurely. It wasn't supposed to be sent until this Saturday.
...and to be perfectly honest. I don't like it at all. :(
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Post by: Kingsley
Horrendous model IMO-- it looks significantly worse than a normal or even Black Reach Dreadnought, and it'll probably be overpriced as well. On the plus side, this means that I won't be spending extra money on buying these for my army...
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Post by: Boss Salvage
Undecided. Like the fist and the angular slab armor, dislike the 'hammer' and the hunter-killers. Wondering if I'd like it better sans banner, for the stocky-smashy look.
Thanks for the pics!
- Salvage
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Post by: yani
@ Salvage; my pleasure
I think it's bloody awesome, mahoosive armour plates and two gurt big wacky arms. The thingthat lets the mobel down though is those hunter killers they look as if they were tacked on as an afterthought
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Post by: Hulksmash
As long as i can build it without the Hunter Killers i'll be a happy camper.
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Post by: Nofasse 'Eadhunta
Hopefully the HK missiles are an optional add-on to the model, because they look like bunny ears from the front.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
I think it looks pretty good. I won't be using the hunter killers of course, they are a waste of points on a model like that and they look pretty awful tacked on like that.
For being so much more heavilly armored it looks much less stocky then the regular or venerable dreads, something which I like. The regular dread looks almost silly in how stubby its legs are, this thing looks like it could actually traverse some terrain.
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Post by: MrGiggles
I want to loot one!
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Post by: skkipper
nice I like it.
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Post by: Mattlov
The CC weapons are ridiculous. Let me put Twin-linked Lascannons on each arm instead.
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Post by: Sarigar
Great looking model. I can envision one painted up to look battleworn and ready to dish it out.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Mattlov wrote:The CC weapons are ridiculous.
They're better looking then the regular dread close combat weapons.
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Post by: Tizz
Meh, I made my own. So far theres no clues if it includes chainfists or not
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Post by: RogueMarket
I dont like it... its.......
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Post by: Uriels_Flame
Besides the Tau plates on the front, what's the difference between this and the furioso?
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Post by: Agamemnon2
It doesn't even look like the smoke launchers could fire past the HK launchers. The underslung meltagun also looks very awkward and ruins the lines of the left arm.
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Post by: Crablezworth
The missile launcher things on the shoulder pad look really stupid. It doesn't really seem that much more armored than a regular dreadnought.
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Post by: Flachzange
While the missiles do look weird, the rest is pretty cool
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Post by: Caprosmaster
Tizz wrote:Meh, I made my own. So far theres no clues if it includes chainfists or not
the CAD images i;'ve seen indicate a chainfist option, but it might not have made the final cut.
the moedl looks too squat and the seismec hammer is how a seismic 40k hammer would proabaly work, many 'hammers' pummeling the targe, although these ones look more like the thing from eurotrip, no good on slaanesh takns
Caprosmaster
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Post by: cadbren
Maybe the model will come with options like the current dred does. Hope so, the CAD showed a chainfist arm and an arm with several bolters on it. It also showed an underslung flamer and the pics above show a melta so hopefully there is more to this.
The banner is just silly, it's a dred designed to smash through walls etc, how long would a banner pole last?
Would've been nice to have had a different base too.
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Post by: cadbren
Agamemnon2 wrote:It doesn't even look like the smoke launchers could fire past the HK launchers. The underslung meltagun also looks very awkward and ruins the lines of the left arm.
The stormbolter on the right arm looks like it would fire straight into the fist in front of it as well. It's a pity they don't have an engineer or similar to advise on some of the crap designs they come up with. It's not difficult to fix but why can't they produce a model that doesn't require fixing?
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Post by: Flachzange
cadbren wrote:Agamemnon2 wrote:It doesn't even look like the smoke launchers could fire past the HK launchers. The underslung meltagun also looks very awkward and ruins the lines of the left arm.
The stormbolter on the right arm looks like it would fire straight into the fist in front of it as well. It's a pity they don't have an engineer or similar to advise on some of the crap designs they come up with. It's not difficult to fix but why can't they produce a model that doesn't require fixing?
Actually, I think it just looks that way.
If you check pic one, it would seem like it should be firing right through those two ... claws.
However, you are right, the position is kind of dumb ... especially if you can actually twist/turn the full ring of 4 claws into the way of the bolter.
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Post by: Ratbarf
The hammer looks kinda dumb but overall I like it. I will probably switch it out for something else. I also hope that this model comes with all of the missing options from the regular Dread.
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Post by: Snorri Alequaffer
I think it looks a bit on the small side for a "siege dread" still looks neat. Heres wanting them to give you the arm for a hurricane bolter.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
So... is it metal or plastic?
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Post by: Cheese Elemental
What's with its waist? It would be falling over all the time.
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Post by: frgsinwntr
I like it! I'm not a fan of the missiles or the melta or the storm bolter positions... but meh. Conversions : )
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Post by: Le Grognard
Kinda reminding me of the Transformers for some reason. Very robot-suity.
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Post by: Meltdown
i think when i get this model i will replace those missiles with the missile pods off a terminator. i dont like how chunky and useless they look. i'll be buying this just for another dred. and paint it up as a techmarine dread (possibbly with servo arms folded up on its back
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Post by: Dronze
H.B.M.C. wrote:So... is it metal or plastic?
Of all the questions asked and comments made in this thread, this one is the most important, as it is truly the final arbiter of how many people buy the thing.
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Post by: BrookM
The newsletter clearly states that this will be a multi-part plastic kit with all the options from the marine codex.
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Post by: Her Majesty's Buxom Commissar
Caprosmaster wrote:Tizz wrote:Meh, I made my own. So far theres no clues if it includes chainfists or not
the CAD images i;'ve seen indicate a chainfist option, but it might not have made the final cut.
It has the chainfist option. You can see one in the Planetstrike book.
H.B.M.C. wrote:So... is it metal or plastic?
BrookM wrote:The newsletter clearly states that this will be a multi-part plastic kit with all the options from the marine codex.
Yup, it's plastic all right (always was).
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Post by: Danny Internets
Looks kind of gangly with the over-sized limbs. You'd think the extra armor would have made them go with a bulkier look.
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Post by: whitedragon
Love it! The CC weapons can be swapped out for whatever you want, hell it's plastic. Put on the power snippers from the AOBR warbosses you all have laying around, or use the much nicer looking chainfist and don't call it a chainfist. If you aren't using the missiles, mount the melta and storm bolter up there over its shoulders! The "over the shoulder guns" look great, very battletech-like.
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Post by: Polonius
Dronze wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:So... is it metal or plastic?
Of all the questions asked and comments made in this thread, this one is the most important, as it is truly the final arbiter of how many people buy the thing.
It's going to be the same price in metal or plastic, I'm sure.
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Post by: jamsessionein
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only back massagers.
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Post by: Dronze
Polonius wrote:Dronze wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:So... is it metal or plastic?
Of all the questions asked and comments made in this thread, this one is the most important, as it is truly the final arbiter of how many people buy the thing.
It's going to be the same price in metal or plastic, I'm sure.
Who said anything about price? After the plastic AoBR dread, I refuse to buy another dread in metal ever again, as it's no longer needed... and I hate metal models with a passion.
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Post by: Polonius
Dronze wrote:Polonius wrote:Dronze wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:So... is it metal or plastic?
Of all the questions asked and comments made in this thread, this one is the most important, as it is truly the final arbiter of how many people buy the thing.
It's going to be the same price in metal or plastic, I'm sure.
Who said anything about price? After the plastic AoBR dread, I refuse to buy another dread in metal ever again, as it's no longer needed... and I hate metal models with a passion.
That's all I use. Metal models cost more at retail, but after a while, they enter the second hand market, and that's where I do my business. You can strip and repaint metal models all day long, but the plastic kits are harder to strip and almost impossible to break down.
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Post by: anticitizen013
I think this model looks really cool! *considers Ironclad spam*
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Post by: DarthDiggler
When is it coming out? I like the missiles. I've been toying with an Ironclad spam list that all have 2 HK missiles for the first turn, 12 HK missile, alpha strike. If IG armor 12 lists take off, it might be worth investing.
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Post by: Gundam-Mecha
Looks like a Tau Broadside Battle suit. The feet and torso in particular.
I much prefer Jes Goodwins "regular" plastic Dreadnought design, and or any of the FW dreads.
This one is very unbalanced and over the top, just for the sake of bigger = better.
It provides some great oportunities for conversions though, I wouldn't build it as it is from the box though.
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Post by: Death By Monkeys
whitedragon wrote:Love it! The CC weapons can be swapped out for whatever you want, hell it's plastic. Put on the power snippers from the AOBR warbosses you all have laying around, or use the much nicer looking chainfist and don't call it a chainfist. If you aren't using the missiles, mount the melta and storm bolter up there over its shoulders! The "over the shoulder guns" look great, very battletech-like.
You hit the nail on the head, whitedragon. That's exactly the reason I like it - it reminds me of weird, awkward Battletech/Robotech mechs. (Hm....now, why hadn't I thought of a Space Marine chapter painted up in Skull Squadron colors...black and white with yellow accents?)
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Post by: - Human
Danny Internets wrote:Looks kind of gangly with the over-sized limbs. You'd think the extra armor would have made them go with a bulkier look.
I agree. Overall I don't like this model very much at all... maybe it's due to the longer limbs, but one way or another it doesn't look any sturdier or bulkier than a normal dreadnought. I hate the seismic hammer, and the HK missiles are very poorly designed on there. I hope it comes with many more options to make up for what the normal dreadnought lacks.
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Post by: BrookM
Her Majesty's Buxom Commissar wrote:Caprosmaster wrote:Tizz wrote:Meh, I made my own. So far theres no clues if it includes chainfists or not
the CAD images i;'ve seen indicate a chainfist option, but it might not have made the final cut.
It has the chainfist option. You can see one in the Planetstrike book.
H.B.M.C. wrote:So... is it metal or plastic?
BrookM wrote:The newsletter clearly states that this will be a multi-part plastic kit with all the options from the marine codex.
Yup, it's plastic all right (always was).
Thanks for quoting me Panzer Madchen, bewbs seem to catch the attention of the lads around here more than regular posts.
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Post by: Portal Wargaming
Really liked the CAD designs I saw a while back but now I've seen it painted I'm not so sure!!!! Not a fan of the missiles or the close combat weapon but like the leg armour and hammer!!! Will have to see if this grows on me!
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Post by: KaloranSLC
WANT! That's very close to what I envisioned as the seismic hammer.
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Post by: gennadius
i kinda like it except for the weird position of the smoke launchers on top.
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Post by: Frazzled
Why are they calling a badly done oil well drill bit a seismic hammer?
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Post by: Nerf_IG
Frazzled wrote:Why are they calling a badly done oil well drill bit a seismic hammer?
At least now I have a piece to use in my diorama of a group of rag-tag IG engineers who were sent to an Ork Rok to drill to its core and plant a melta charge before it slams into some planet.
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Post by: Scottywan82
Nerf_IG wrote:Frazzled wrote:Why are they calling a badly done oil well drill bit a seismic hammer?
At least now I have a piece to use in my diorama of a group of rag-tag IG engineers who were sent to an Ork Rok to drill to its core and plant a melta charge before it slams into some planet.
That's actually a way cool idea.
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Post by: Dronze
I think a swap for the FW siege drill would make this thing look amazing, particularly in a "counts as" situation....
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Post by: Railguns
I remember seeing the CAD and being disappointed then too. I like the plating and the profile(sans the missile ears) but there are so many design stupidities here. Why not have some sort of observational scopes on the top of the dread on a rotating base so the thing can actually see more than 30 degrees in front of it? Why can't the meltagun be incorporated into the close combat weapon like Hurons flamer? That thing is going to get knocked off or squashed the instant the dread gets into a fight with something. The seismic hammer looks like a drill bit, not a hammer. I was desperately hoping for Big-O style piston fist, but the obvious (and cool, somewhat believable option did not happen.) The same that went for the melta goes for the bolter. You don't attach a gun to the business end of a smashy bit without at least trying to incorporate it in such a way that it won't get smashed. The legs are better, but they still need to be longer, especially to compensate for such huge feet.
THAT SAID, I still like things about this model, but there were a huge amount of missed opportunities that were replaced with bad decisions.
EDIT for failing at grammer
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Post by: konversionz
It looks pants, gw need to produce new things instead of rehashing old models!
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Plastic I would assume. Was spotted on CAD stuff, and I can't think of a vehicle made recently that was metal, not since the Venerable Dread.
I quite like it. Very Marine like in the single purposeness of it. It's not here the look good. It's here to stomp you and your girly buildings in a tiny splutchy pancake type shape.
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Post by: keezus
1. Take a great plastic model and make it sub-par in its codex.
2. Modify that great plastic model in to a blinged up disproportionate monstrosity.
3. ???
4. Profit!
This is only -slightly- less ugly than the metal Venerable dreadnought they put out. The worst part about it is how weedy its shoulders and hips look after they grotesquely oversized everything else. The limbs are far too detailed, the sarcophagus is way too bare of details, and the shoulder mounted gear is just silly looking. If it wasn't so much better than pretty much every other dreadnought in the game, it'd probably be another huge non-seller like his fugly infantry brothers, the Catachans.
I award this model 3 Fails out of 4!
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Post by: Belphegor
new dread = weak sauce
Looks like I'll be converting a FW dread.
*sigh*
and buying warmachine Kador bits
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Post by: Grunt_For_Christ
It'll probably look better anyways...
At first glance I thought the HK's were either spotlights or hello kitty eyes. It seems like they're trying to mimic warmachine with those giant arms though. To me it doesn't look like a new sculpt, just a hacked up job of an old model.
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Post by: Dronze
keezus wrote:1. Take a great plastic model and make it sub-par in its codex.
2. Modify that great plastic model in to a blinged up disproportionate monstrosity.
3. ???
4. Profit!
This is only -slightly- less ugly than the metal Venerable dreadnought they put out. The worst part about it is how weedy its shoulders and hips look after they grotesquely oversized everything else. The limbs are far too detailed, the sarcophagus is way too bare of details, and the shoulder mounted gear is just silly looking. If it wasn't so much better than pretty much every other dreadnought in the game, it'd probably be another huge non-seller like his fugly infantry brothers, the Catachans.
I award this model 3 Fails out of 4!
Note: With minimal trimming, you can fit the LC turrets from the baneblade kit over the plastic dread's arm pegs, and they actually come out looking pretty nice... since the kit is, itself, in plastic, It shouldn't be a problem to convert these things into something severely awesome-looking with minimal work.
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Post by: Grunt_For_Christ
That's a very good point. It doesn't take much to make ugly plastic look decent.
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Post by: Grandmaster
I like it, in fact i like it a lot more than I thought i would!
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Post by: LiterateWolf
Doesn't look great but isn't too bad either. With some conversion, it can be really good to field.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
BrookM wrote:The newsletter clearly states that this will be a multi-part plastic kit with all the options from the marine codex.
All the options for the Ironclad, or all the options for the Dread ( TL-Autocannons, Plasma Cannons, etc.)?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
All the Ironclad options I'd expect.
Minus the odd one or two which usually annotate GW's definition of 'all'
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Post by: LunaHound
LiterateWolf wrote:Doesn't look great but isn't too bad either. With some conversion, it can be really good to field.
If you want to convert off an expensive new kit, might as well as converting if off AOBR ones.
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Post by: cadbren
LunaHound wrote:LiterateWolf wrote:Doesn't look great but isn't too bad either. With some conversion, it can be really good to field.
If you want to convert off an expensive new kit, might as well as converting if off AOBR ones.
I've got two of the AOBR ones and while they're nice enough, the boxed plastic one is much better. At least if you buy one siege dred you'll have the arms for converting an AOBR dred into a second siege dred and sell your AOBR arms off to someone making a card dred.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
I think it looks more lightweight than the standard dred. It looks 'stripped down' IMO and the front armour does seem tau-esque.
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Post by: Meltdown
i wouldnt field it as an ironclad at all, keep the arms and get a FW body. Like i said before it would suit being a techmarine dread far more easily. At least it is plastic tho. i wont complain about that.
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Post by: BrookM
H.B.M.C. wrote:BrookM wrote:The newsletter clearly states that this will be a multi-part plastic kit with all the options from the marine codex.
All the options for the Ironclad, or all the options for the Dread ( TL-Autocannons, Plasma Cannons, etc.)?
The Ironclad of course, the regular Dread can rot for all they care.
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Post by: keezus
LunaHound wrote:If you want to convert off an expensive new kit, might as well as converting if off AOBR ones.
EXALT!
If one is replacing the Ironclad kits' oversized Popeye arms with the ridiculously huge weapon mounts, and his giant cartoon feet, then what is the point of buying the kit over a Black Reach cheapie!
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Post by: diablarist
that is awefull. and isnt it ment to have some kinda frag launcher on the front?
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Post by: ShumaGorath
ITT, people don't realize how ridiculous and unworkable the regular dread design is (it can barely move, and it's arms don't make sense), and how much of an improvement the legs and arms are on this new models.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Let's be honest Shummy, DoW did a pretty good job of taking what is a very clunky and illogical design and making it 'work' (as best as they could).
Honestly I don't mind this new Iconclad. The fact that it is all plastic makes it very attractive to someone who loves conversions, especially if it comes with all the Ironclad options. With any luck Forge World will make an alternate side Hurricane Bolter mount so I can have a dread with twin banks of Bolters (useless, yes, but damn that'd look cool!).
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Post by: Arthas367
Well thats a big let down i was actually hoping for a Huge destructive looking thunder hammer not just another ornate DCCW
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Post by: jmurph
Yeah, the Seismic Hammer is a disappointment. I was hoping for mega Thunder Hammer. The feet are also really weird. I don't like the tau-esque lines, either. On the upside, it indicates a conversion won't have to do much. Add a bit of sarcophagus armor and a armor codpiece/tabard and you're there. Heck, they didn't even obscure the harness wiring on the sarcophagus!
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Post by: Wehrkind
I am pretty bummed about this too. I don't know what I was expecting body and armor wise, but I really wanted the seismic hammer to be either a piston driven, pneumatic penetration device of some sort, or a dreadnought sized thunderhammer with a bec-de-corbin. I didn't really expect a weapon that looks like you need to hold it in place while it gradually works its way in. That and the melta gun looks really awkward compared to the old Furisio version.
I might still buy one, since I sometimes like models better in person, but I am not as exceited as I was previously.
... I need to make a thunderhammer/storm shield dread. That would kick ass.
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Post by: generalgrog
Big dissapointment for me. I'm just going to convert some AOBR dreads.
GG
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Post by: JD21290
Love the ironclad
may have to make a small ironclad spam army now
they actually look like they can move about.
also, those HK missiles better not be fixed in place :K
they will get used as bitz.
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Post by: cadbren
jmurph wrote:Yeah, the Seismic Hammer is a disappointment. I was hoping for mega Thunder Hammer. The feet are also really weird. I don't like the tau-esque lines, either. On the upside, it indicates a conversion won't have to do much. Add a bit of sarcophagus armor and a armor codpiece/tabard and you're there. Heck, they didn't even obscure the harness wiring on the sarcophagus!
The smaller wires have received armoured coverings but I guess they should all have been covered.
The seismic hammer does at least look like it's designed to destroy things through vibration rather than hulk smash but a drill bit would have been better I reckon.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I think that when most of us thought 'Seismic Hammer' we were thinking "Big Freaking Hammer" and not "Pneumatic Impact Hammer".
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Post by: LunaHound
Its almost impossible for GW to make a decent iron clad imo without changing the structure beneath.
I mean it was already a box . How do you give more armor to a box without making it more boxy!
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Post by: jmurph
Wehrkind wrote:
... I need to make a thunderhammer/storm shield dread. That would kick ass.
This is a fantastic idea! I am totally stealing it. It would be clear at first glance that it is better armored, the shield works as a DCCW, etc. Brilliant!
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Post by: BrookM
H.B.M.C. wrote:I think that when most of us thought 'Seismic Hammer' we were thinking "Big Freaking Hammer" and not "Pneumatic Impact Hammer".
Big O came to mind when I first read about seismic hammers on Dreadnoughts.
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Post by: Jayden63
Not impressed. The only think I like about it is the arms. The body just looks too weedy to be AV13.
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Post by: Axyl
Nice of em to make a model for the Ironclad, but I already convert a black reach dread.
I'm actually curious if it actually comes with TWO heavy flamers for both arms.
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Post by: Feldmarshal Goehring
I don't know if I am just so used to looking at the normal dreads, or if this Ironclad model really looks bad.
I don't really like it now, but I may like it after I play against some guy with 3 them smashing away at my army and fully painted.
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Post by: lasgunpacker
so... marines have THREE plastic dreads, and Chaos has zero? Seems about right.
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Post by: MarvinGayeIsMyDaddy
I thought GW put in the fire frenzy rule so people would never complain about the lack of a plastic Chaos Dread?
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Post by: Ghaz
There's a better pic of the Ironclad on Warseer from Games Day Baltimore.
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Post by: dashrendar
is that hard to actually post the pic instead of the link?
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Post by: Ghaz
dashrendar wrote:is that hard to actually post the pic instead of the link?
It's not my bandwidth to post, thank you.
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Post by: Cato S.
When is that coming out!!!!! I want on now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! INFO please
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
In a month or so, when Planet Strike comes out.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
I only dislike the Hunter Killers and the Melta hanging off the bottom of the Hammer, everything else looks fine.
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Post by: Sidstyler
Ghaz wrote:dashrendar wrote:is that hard to actually post the pic instead of the link?
It's not my bandwidth to post, thank you.
http://www.photobucket.com
It's free.
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Post by: Ghaz
So? Is clicking a link too much work? Next time, I won't bother posting it at all if people don't like the fact that I posted a link instead of a pic.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Sounds like someone doesn't know how to use the image tags and is trying to mask it  .
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Post by: JediRaptor
Sadly, that Pic made me decide that its nothing but FW dreds for me from now on....
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Post by: Jayden63
I like the DCCW, it looks beefy. The rest is firmly Meh. AOBR dreads with a little extra bulk will be just fine.
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Post by: Hollismason
Seismic hammer is rather phallic.
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Post by: lord marcus
ph34r wrote:I really dislike the close combat weapons and top mounted missiles. The fists are way too huge, and the missiles look tacked on.
of course the fists are huge....its built for a siege man! they gotta have something big and heavy to break doors down.
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Post by: Cato S.
yani wrote:Not sure if this has been posted but got it in my inbox about 5 mins ago from GW.
The brand spanking new Ironclad
Its cc weapon.
The siesmic Hammer
I dont care what anyone says this is the dang s**t i love this thing any else good coming from the planet strike??
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Post by: UltraPrime
Ghaz wrote:So? Is clicking a link too much work? Next time, I won't bother posting it at all if people don't like the fact that I posted a link instead of a pic.
Alot of people, myself included, don't want to click a link to another site. I come here for my news, and that should be enough. There is nothing wrong with that, so chill bud.
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Post by: zedsdead
i wasnt too impressed by the pic... however seeing it in person ive changed my mind. Ill be getting at least 2 of these now.
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Post by: Cypher871
Hmmmmm, I gotta say, I am not overly impressed with the model...in fact , I think some of the site regulars conversions are far better. Some of this may be because of the angle the picture has been taken at...the one in the Games Day pic looks a little better. To my mind the model does not look 'armoured' enough for the role it is meant to play and as others have already said, the auxiliary weapon placements on the arms don't really work...better to have them underslung on the bottom of the sarcophagus same as a MKIV Dread.
I had envisioned the seismic hammer to be a piston driven item as well...I have fond memories of a really tacky 80's film called 'Robot Jox' where the Russians and Americans were slugging it out in huge bipedal war machines...the Russian bot has a piston driven fist and it knocks the heck outta the American one...really cool scene...ahem, I digress!
The CC arm is too oversized for my liking, they would have been better going with the Furioso design. All the other options are just that I guess...options. GW, in the pursuit of stream-lining their business are to release ALL kits with ALL options I believe, starting with the IG Sentinals, so I guess the kit will come with a full option spread.
I may buy this kit purely for the optional bitz but, like many others will probably convert an AOBR dready or take a FW model...the standard MKIV looks almost made for the role IMO.
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Post by: Vodka619
My guardians of the covenant will be overjoyed to have 2 of these bad boys guarding the gastes to hell
Might also get 1 for the sand tigers ( CSM) to play with
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Post by: smiling Assassin
Eugh, horrible. Another fugly SM figure, 'grats GW!
sA
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Post by: BioRebel
*prays to the emperor that the Ironclad and Vulkan models launch at the same time so he can build his first tourney army.*
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Post by: ShumaGorath
 Yeah they are basically the same for armor.
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Post by: barlio
I think the size of the hammer and dccw is putting people off. It has the extra armor up front, but it needs some more. It's armor 13 on the sides so it should be beefier on the sides.
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Post by: gamefreak
well I dont play Space Marines, but it looks great.
I am kind of jealous of the Space Marines. When was the last time the Necrons had a new mini sculpted? 3rd Edition?
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Post by: Hollismason
Does no one else think it looks like its carrying a sex toy seriously.
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Post by: cadbren
Of cource having a right arm ccw now means that furioso type dreds can be fielded by those less proficient at converting and without needing to buy from FW for those that have difficulty buying from overseas.
It also gives if nothing else, another sacophagus variation for a normal dred. This just has heaps of conversion possibilities.
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Post by: cadbren
lasgunpacker wrote:so... marines have THREE plastic dreads, and Chaos has zero? Seems about right.
All it takes to make a dred chaos is to paint chaos symbols on it. If chaos players want more then most should have access to the chaos vehicle accessory sprue which gives them spikes etc.
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Post by: Wannabe Writer
I love the arms especially the extra big fist arm, but I'm still undecided about the 'Tau-esque' armour plate design. The melta doesn't look too bad, just perhaps shorten the space between it and the fist, or mount it elsewere as has already been mentioned. On the whole I really like this model although the hunter killer missiles look awful, they definately wont be being put on my Ironclad.
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Post by: BioRebel
Is there an official launch date? Also I've heard they plan on releasing a few other models at the same time as the ironclad.
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Post by: Frazzled
ShumaGorath wrote:
Yeah they are basically the same for armor.
Thats a good comparison Shuma.
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Post by: N1NJ4
But check out that codpiece! That's where the old Dread is lacking.
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Post by: BrookM
The ironclad also has bigger feet and what appears to be more angular shin armour. Plus if nitpicking, something the old crotches around here love, some of the cables going into the sarcophagus are armoured.
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Post by: cadbren
Does that loin cloth thing just hang down or is it attached to the bit between the legs? Hopefully the former if that dred is going to be able to twist at the waist.
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Post by: Cheese Elemental
So is GW charging a fortune for this, or don't we have to rely on other stores for our model?
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Post by: Cato S.
ok i got a question is it metal or plastic?
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Post by: BrookM
Multi-part plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Kit.
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Post by: Nofasse 'Eadhunta
BrookM wrote:Multi-part plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Plastic. Kit.
(Metal).
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Post by: Thorgut
Looks sort of like an evolution of the Dreadnought design rather than a variation but I'm glad we have both.
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Post by: Feldmarshal Goehring
There is certainly nothing wrong with options and variants.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
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Post by: Elliotminorkid
It is pretty cool but i have to agree with 'yani' here as those bits near the head do look like they were chucked on after the rest had been designed and stuff, really hope its plastic too.
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Post by: Cypher871
Yes, this model IS plastic.
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Post by: punkisntdeadyet
not a fan.
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Post by: Demogerg
Cypher871 wrote:
I had envisioned the seismic hammer to be a piston driven item as well...I have fond memories of a really tacky 80's film called 'ROBOT JOX' where the Russians and Americans were slugging it out in huge bipedal war machines...the Russian bot has a piston driven fist and it knocks the heck outta the American one...really cool scene...ahem, I digress!
Best Movie Evar! Srsly!
the main character was an illiterate American, the tech guy was asian, and the Russian was overly brutal.... so awesomely cheesy
everyone needs to see this film, two words "Crotch Chainsaw"
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Post by: Urban Guard
itll be a good base 4 conversions
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Post by: CENArtDamage
I always felt a seismic hammer would be so much cooler as something like this...
Excuse the aweful paint job, I can't do thin clean highlights to save my life.
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Post by: Ciaphas-Cain
THATS what a hammer should be
Am i the only one who enjoys where the HK missiles are, i think they suit the model very well...
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Post by: Cypher871
Demogerg wrote:Cypher871 wrote:
I had envisioned the seismic hammer to be a piston driven item as well...I have fond memories of a really tacky 80's film called 'ROBOT JOX' where the Russians and Americans were slugging it out in huge bipedal war machines...the Russian bot has a piston driven fist and it knocks the heck outta the American one...really cool scene...ahem, I digress!
Best Movie Evar! Srsly!
the main character was an illiterate American, the tech guy was asian, and the Russian was overly brutal.... so awesomely cheesy
everyone needs to see this film, two words "Crotch Chainsaw"
Ahh Demogerg, a fellow film buff...if ever a movie needed releasing on DVD, this is it! Crotch chainsaw indeed...Classic!!! Love your Avatar...brings back memories lol.
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