I am pulling the trigger and doing this project. I was torn between doing a pre-heresy army or a 300 movie inspired army, and I also recently was intrigued by the 28mm "true scale" marines....So I am doing all in one. Also, I have resin Greek tiled bases, and I am using earth magnets for weapon/arm swaps. I plan on 11 termies, 20 tacticals, 10 air assualt, 3 dreadnoughts, and 7 (scratch built true scale for 28mm marines) drop pods. The dreads will also b e highly converted to be correctly scaled as well, gaing about an inch in height. The bits I decided on are High Elf spears, high elf swords, dwarf shields (icons removed), chaos knight helmeted heads (horns removed), and some bear heads of chaos marauders, and several various capes from WH lines. All icons will be removed, studded shoulder pads will be used, and chest armor of tacticals will be "green stuffed" to pre-heresy style (like red scorpions). The tacticals and assualt will be about 1/2" taller, termies about 3/4" taller, and width & girth will also increase by 2mm to 4mm....I did several test models, and they look really good so far!

Any advice or pics that I can see to help me?

If you show what you've done so far, we might be able to help better.

Beork

I'm also going to be reposing them to more dynamic action poses & also adding gun bursts on some too.....My wife and I will paint these up to 8+ out of 10 scale for each mini too.....My wife is a pro artist and we typically get $50 to $100 to paint a single miniature.....

With the dreds I think you'd have to completely redo the bodies and shoulders as they're currently undersized. A truescale dred would need to be at least twice as big as the current one. A space marine should be able to fit into the compartment in the middle of the dred where the little window is.

If you compare the current models you'll see that the dred is only about half the size it should be, the same way that a truescale rhino model would be about the size of a Land raider.

I'd imagine a truescale dred would have smaller firing weapons in comparison but larger ammo hoppers.

But as said before, pics are always nice.

I'm not sure but true scale Dreads would not be able to stand at all, much less punch something while shooting an assault cannon.

This seems pretty cool. Try to get some models converted up so we can see. As inspiration, here's a 54mm Space Marine Spartan

i was going to do the same thing...

a 300 inspired army.

go for Chaos Marauder heads - chop off the horns, add horse hair...

i took a marine body and filed it down and then sculpted (badly) armor to look like Dante (blood angels), also cut the boots and GS'd some toes in...

Marauder arms work well... especially if you're doing truescale marines... that leaves the oversized cloaks, shields and spears.

check out scribor's spartan marines i cant remember his web address but hes on CMON or if you just google "scribor marines" it should pull it up.

Here is a link to give you an idea of what I hope to accomplish

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=31681

The posted pics here are NOT mine, they are Elusive71

I'll actually add 2mm under foot, in shin, in thigh, 4mm in waist, and 2mm on neck for 12mm extra height and 2mm on left and right shoulders for 4mm extra width, and 2mm in chest thickness....(on tacticals)...

Termies will have about 16mm extra height, 8mm extra width and 2mm extra thickness in chest...

Dread will be 1.5x bigger.....

Dakkadood wrote:I'm not sure but true scale Dreads would not be able to stand at all, much less punch something while shooting an assault cannon.

Why wouldn't they be able to stand?

A good source of inspiration for you might be to check out scibors page. He has several squads that look similar to what you are going for(liek scifi model 41, and scifi team 10). It's just plain inspirational actually.

http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,galerry.php

Meph

cadbren wrote:

Dakkadood wrote:I'm not sure but true scale Dreads would not be able to stand at all, much less punch something while shooting an assault cannon.

Why wouldn't they be able to stand?

I think Dakkadood is suggesting it's way too top heavy.........

krazynadechukr2 wrote:

cadbren wrote:

Dakkadood wrote:I'm not sure but true scale Dreads would not be able to stand at all, much less punch something while shooting an assault cannon.

Why wouldn't they be able to stand?

way too top heavy.........

so you're basically implying that if i dreadnought existed in real life, it wouldn't be able to function? :S

with the way im looking at them and there proportions i can see this being the case sadly. eather that or there would have to be some reahter funky counterbalance thing going on inside it.

but then again thinking about it its in space and alot of the places the gravity would diffre, meaning that diffrent planets would hve diffrent pulls as such, so its hard to say, but i feel safe saing no. sorry,

Well, you can generally figure dreads to go on the same proportions as a human. We're plenty heavy, but we make it work because we have light bones and a strong lower body. All you've gotta do is be able to support the upper body, which the Mechanicus clearly already succeeds at with power armor.

You realise that is a game?.. lol.

Plus they are in the 41st millenium.. any stablisation issues or any other problems that would have occurred when designing them would have been fixed and perfected loooong ago. =)

I'm interested to see what the dread will look like in scale.. they are meant to be huge.. almost 3 times that of a marine..

as interesting as your theory is i would have a tendancy to attempt yo proove you wrong, but with allr eligious matters i have found that tryin is disvantagious to both partys....

so i shall let you beleave what you will,

haha , so make a full size marine , and then make a 3 times bigger dread ???

That is .... HUUUUGE ! ! ! !

back on track,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i was thinking of doing spears with bolters on it like custodes................any opinions?

dread will be 2 inches taller and 1 inch wider and half inch thicker......rhino conversion is bases of land raider model...............

krazynadechukr2 wrote:

cadbren wrote:

Dakkadood wrote:I'm not sure but true scale Dreads would not be able to stand at all, much less punch something while shooting an assault cannon.

Why wouldn't they be able to stand?

way too top heavy.........

What do you base that on? No one knows the relative weight distribution in a dred. Look at a duck, it looks top heavy, its shape requires it to waddle, but it doesn't fall over every five minutes. I assume you think the current dred is top heavy too?

krazynadechukr2 wrote:back on track,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i was thinking of doing spears with bolters on it like custodes................any opinions?

The Grey Knights have guantlet mounted stormbolters, maybe you could give your Spartiates guantlet mounted bolters and keep the force weapon looking as much like a spear as possible.

I liked the Spartan picture that I saw so far. More pics as the project progresses, I hope?

Okay, so the concept & plan of this project is this:
1. convert all space marines to a true 28mm scale
2. convert them to a mk5 style armor
3. add a spartan / 300 flare
4. use all gw bits & green stuff
5. use earth magnets to make weapons easy to swap
6. add a nickle size slug under bases to add weight
7. add names on the bases (I have small white decal letters)
8. use resin Greek tile style bases
9. repose all to dynamic poses (no repeats of poses)
10. use bolter flashes, cotton (smoke), paint glowing effects for weapons...
11. paint each mini to an 8+ scale or better
12. use real red cloth for capes
13. convert weapons to pre-heresy look
14. scrape off all icons (skulls, wings, etc) for clean "old" look

True Scale portion - Tacticals & Assualt marines - there is a 2mm thick plasti-card that I will add to base of foot, in shin, in thigh, and then I will fill in the cavity of the chest part that conects to waist portion. That waist portion will be built up to be flat. That will add 4mm. Then I will fill up neck cavity too, to raise head 2mm. That'll raise marine 12mm. The chest will have a 2mm part added between front and back, and the shoulders will have a 2mm addition too. So they will be 2mm thicker & 4mm wider... The termies will have 2mm under foot, 4mm on shin, 6mm on thighs (and thighs thickened too), waist/torso connection like tacticals, and neck cavity filled too. That'll raise termies 18mm, and 4mm in thickness, & 8mm in width....Dreads will have "hips widened by 1", legs extended by 1", and arms will go out 6mm each, the body part will have width & height & girth extended by 4mm too....arms of marines will be extended by 2mm too....

Pre-heresy style armour - scraping off all icons, adding studs on left shoulder pad, shin guards, the added waist/torso height will be covered by green stuff and look like the Red Scorpions styled armour, but with abs....

Spartan look - chaos whf helmets (with horns removed), bear heads from several lines, spears from high elf, swords from high elfs, gold armor, red capes, green stuff beards made, the Chapter Master will have a crest on helmet, and sgts too....the bolters will be on the spears like custodes....round shields on left arm (dwarf shields with icons gone)....Some helmets will be tipped back with face showing...

Poses - I like the Nurgle chaos sorcerer posr from forgeworld so one will be like this and with that raised hand will be holding severed daemon head, several other poses have been sketched out too.....

Weapons - bolters & such are on spears, but heavier weapons will be made to look like rogue trader era/per - heresy look

Dynamic - gun bursts (they make those now in blisters, forgot who), blood trailing off swinging spear, jumping through air, etc....several planned out....

Play - Once done, I'll play test as Reg Marines, Black Templars, Khorne, etc...to see what works best....

Here are a few pics to give you some ideas of where I am going

Wow, I looked on the net and found perfect examples of what I intend to do....

That painted one looks really good. Almost more natural than the actual space marine beside it.

Subscribed. I'm excited to watch this project unfold. Stuff like this is the reason I finally joined these forums.

you might have use for these aswell...

http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=53

Looks liek you got the insperation good luck !

Very cool I did the same thing with my Daemon Prince because I thought he looked to hunched over.

This is what I am talking about! Wow!

Eventually I'll do a true size 28mm rhino & even landraider!

dude you have some nice blood effect on those mini's and also love the scratched helm+blood of the space marine and their size

gennadius wrote:dude you have some nice blood effect on those mini's and also love the scratched helm+blood of the space marine and their size

Those are not my minis...They are another member of DakkaDakka.....They are beautiful though, and are inspirational in my project.....

That rhino looks great! Two things that could be improved on that design are: wider tracks and the hatches being further apart. One of the annoying things about the current model is that it's very difficult to model the hatches open without them fouling on anything mounted on the neighbouring hatch.

The hatches could do with being bigger too, a marine in power armour would never fit through the current hatches and the crew models not surprisingly don't fit, they just sit on top of them.

Some pose concepts I am going to do -

One of the space marines is going to be holding a tau (devilfish commander mini with binocs) in his extended right hand, by the neck. The binocs will be removed, and the tau's hands will be clasped on the marines wrist. The marine's left arm will be down at his side, holding the spear (with bolter on it like Custodes). The Spartan helmet will be on his head, but tilted back so the marine's face is looking at the tau's face. The tau will be blue/grey skinned and white clothes/armour (good contrast to the gold & red spartans). Also the size of the marine (true scale) will really be obviuos if Tau are used on several of the bases...

Another pose is a marine who has swung his spear/bolter. The right arm is at a 45 degree downward angle, grasping the spear mid section. There is a trail of blue blood (tau blood) arcing off the blade...The left arm is out to the side, straight out horizontal holding shield...A little toothbrush flicker of blue blood will be on the Spartan Space marine....(I chose blue blood for contrast with the gold & red on the marines, so don't go all "fluff correcting").

Another marine will be doing the classic kick with the foot (like in 300 near the pit), crushing the face of a Tau warrior...

The dread will actually be in a swinging pose, with legs reposed, and the close combat arm will be swinging up and out to the left at 45 degree angle. There will be 3 tau crushed and flying off his arm, blue blood splattered on arm of dread....

One of the assualt marines, flying through the air (on reg base with clear flying stem), will be legs bent at knee back, both hands holding sword over head (like in 300 movie with the arm cut off the ambassador)....

Another marine will be kinda crouched, with spear bolter straight out, left arm holding shield in front of him (like a classic warrior pose)....

Another marine will be running (similar to lmtd edition marine running with hammer), but about to throw his spear/bolter...

One marine will be posed like chaos nurgle sorcerer from forgeworld, holding 3 kroot heads in the air, with helmet tilted back showing marine face...splattered with lime greenish blood from kroot....

Another assualt marine, flying in air, will have skewered a vespid in mid air combat....

One marine will be swinging his spear/bolter like a baseball bat, grasping it at the lower 1/3, and a tau will be cut in two parts...

(I am brain storming here...)

If you have any pose suggestions, please tell me!

I hear lots of poses, now I want to see lots of models! ;-)

Sounds wicked dude, can't wait!

krazynadechukr2 wrote:I'll actually add 2mm under foot, in shin, in thigh, 4mm in waist, and 2mm on neck for 12mm extra height and 2mm on left and right shoulders for 4mm extra width, and 2mm in chest thickness....(on tacticals)...

Termies will have about 16mm extra height, 8mm extra width and 2mm extra thickness in chest...

Dread will be 1.5x bigger.....

Haven't seen those pictures for awhile. I had posted some updated pictures somewhere a couple years ago of where I had increased the height even more by adding spacers exactly where you've illustrated. The finished product was very imposing.
Looking forward to seeing your progress!

Not to hijack, but I gotta say that when I first posted pics of my biggerized marines back in November 2003, I figured people would just think I was an OCD nutcase. But the fact that people took the idea and ran with it (and often improved on it) makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Mostly because I realize we're all OCD nutcases. Having since bought a house, my modeling has been on hold for the last few years. I've got a project in the works however - Biggerized Marines scaled to work with the (more properly proportioned) AT-43 figs I use for Imperial Guard. Never did like GW's too-big heads and stubby bodies.

Also, each mini has own logo on shield that matches their right shoulder pad!

Many people have suggested a true scales 28mm space marine army may look odd when played against other GW armies....What do you think?

Well, they are the saviors of mankind, so why not allow for them to look weird against other GW armies? Besides, truescale makes them look more... imposing. So is this not a good look for those who are meant to strike fear into the hearts of the enemies of the Imperium?

@Krazynadechukr2:

I wish you well on this project of yours. I am glad to see one of my true scales on the first page as inspiration and with all the work Shas'el Tael, Migsula, Apologist and Synapse among others doing really great true scale work as well is making me want to get back to my marines. Currently I am stuck as to what chapter I should do!?!

True scales rock, don't let anyone tell you different. I will keep mine on the normal marine bases, just so people cannot claim I am using modeling to take advantage in game. Plus true scaling puts you at a disadvantage with the new LOS rules.

Essentially do what will make you the happiest in the end. Do what will keep you in the project for the long haul. Don't settle and don't compromise.

I hope to see some work soon as your concept sketch is really cool and quite inspiring.

Okay. I started some test model..

I realize all I need is 2mm under the feet, 4mm in the thighs, and 2mm in the waist for the termies to be a tad taller. I am using an easy substitute for plasti-card. There are 8.5x11 sheets of stiff foam like sheets at Walmart for 33 cents. Cutting with scissors and exacto knife is simple. Once super glue is added, they are hard as rock. I use them to extend the height and width. 2mm extra on each shoulder too, and the shoulder guards too. Anyway, these pics are at the roughest stages. There is alot of work to do on this model.

Dremeling and filing off all the icons is next. I will remove the attempt of a crest on top, and add the traditional banner on pole. I'll thin out the thighs, smooth out the abs, and have a nice round shield...Removing flash too.

The six-pack is a bit cliche for my tastes, but he's one bad-ass looking marine to be fair

Awesome stuff, those are some scary ass marines

You know, you're making me think I should have gone true-scale on my movie marines project. Good looking stuff.

This project truly is madness...

sorry i had to say it

lol the six pack on the termi just looks like...well odd unless you can smooth it better into the armor

Please stop arguing you two (three), you are embarrassing yourselves over a misunderstanding and it's only going downhill from there. If you wish to continue this little flame war, take it to PMs so as to not derail this thread; by posting comments such as the one above you are disrespecting both the OP and the dakka community who are trying to discuss something rather nifty here.

I like the test model, krazynadechukr2, but I would definitely like to know what your plans are for that six-pac, and, yes, it looks far too robust.

Make sure this foam stuff you've found at Walmart will not dissolve when spray painting it, I've had that happen to myself with some foam products.

Chaos helms are definitely a good way to go. You might want to consider adding a few "enhancements" to the helms, like optical-reader looking bits and wires (perhaps take a look at some of the more Tau-esque stuff).

One thing that has always somewhat deterred me from the idea of doing a truescale marine is the hands. The hands will look to tiny, I've always thought to myself, and big hands would look rather badass. I can't really tell from your picture, but what do you think? Unfortunately I cannot think of any models with larger hands that one can cannibalize for conversions.

dreadnought power arms ?( lol )

Well , he can use looots of green stuff

Yeah, I do plan on smoothing down the abs. I just bought the dremel today. I also will be making the armor on all look like it is years and decades old for realism. I have already removed the silly attempt of a crest, and am placing a banner on the top. Since it is Greek/Spartan themed, and I am reading the Brothers of the Snake novel, I will make these Iron Snakes! I ordered more bits from TheWarstor, and one IS will be holding severed daemon head (instead of kroot as planned). I will stiill have a marine holding the tau by the neck, that way the size of the marines will be very obvious. I will use 8 mounted chaos marauder helmeted heads in my assualt force of 10. Sgts will have side to side crests. I'll be working on this for the next 30 days. As an contractor witht the military, I'll be spending the next month living in a hotel, with just this project to do! Keep up the comments and suggestions please.

Very nice work. You're crazy as hell for doing it but I'm sure that it will all be worthwhile once you put it on the table. What a difference a few millimeters makes.

artyboy wrote: What a difference a few millimeters makes.

That's what she said!

Heyohhhh!

He just got told!

On a different note, a month or two ago I thought about doing something like this (minus the abs) but I decided to go with some Gears of War Space Marines.

But good work. I'll be watching this. I suggest putting capes on them.

Oh snap!!! And yeah, Mr. Bombadidaloo, I have also struggled to find non teeny hands for my marines, granted termy hands are slightly, and I mean SLIGHTLY larger, but havent found any GOOD replacements,... yet...

lets put it this way :

Maybe the Spartan is handicaped !

The one model with abs will be the only model with abs, it will be the chapter master....he will have a storm bolter wounted on shield too.....He will be gold armoured as well, where as the others will be steel....white and red shoulders and blue snakes on left, and greek paintings on right (see decals above)....

The old sm arms sprue has hands that are larger than the current ones. That's the sprue that came with the heresy pattern bolter which had a small stock at the back of it. Might be able to find some on ebay if you're looking for larger sm hands.

I am not worried about the hands...These minis are about 10-15% larger only.....

progress report

termies are now 8mm taller and 6mm wider
tacticals and assault are 4mm taller and 4mm wider
scouts stayed same size

now i have to get spears and capes and sheilds done......

Looking good so far man. Keep it up

It looks good, but I would greenstuff the chest on the big guy, to help the abs not stick out as much.

my best suggestion is to look at the emporor's custodees whitch have a verry greek look to them

alot of work left..............

progress report......

here are my 2 sgts from troop squads.....the severed daemon head & choking tau minis as originally planned!

Awesome!

librarian and scout conversions......

why such small pics 'O-o;

Looking good man. Im digging this project alot. Love the tau choking sgt.

gameandwatch wrote:why such small pics 'O-o;

phone camera......I am on the road and livin' in a hotel......

really nice models there! Where did you get the heads from? they look great!

Woohoo! Keep them coming.

love the daemon head guy and theone choking the tau. did something similar with my chaos.

acullen626 wrote:really nice models there! Where did you get the heads from? they look great!

Everything is GW bits.
Chaos knight heads, chaos marauder heads, chaos marauder horsemen heads, high elf spears, ogre gut plates will be shields....xacto knife, dremel, file, green stuff.....

I'm liking what Im seeing, besides the picture size. Get a better camera next time you travel! Anyway, that's all well, but the daemon head mr. sergeant is holding reminds me quite a bit of that yeti thing on Hoth in Star Wars

I thought the exact same thing

Looking good though keep up the good work !

Gretar

lol it reminded me of those like woppas or what ev too lol! I have an idea for the larger hands although, honestly its not necessary: You could get power fists or something, they may be overly large but they could represent extreme gauntlets. You could also try puting like 1 or 2 mm of card in the middle of the hands... although, once again, they are fine the way they are.. i coult NEVER get this into a project (except maybe my Boas)


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Wait what happened to the real red cloth and the spear/bolters?For the most part its only bolters and swords...

After a week, I have finished my 50 man marine spartan army....The conversions are done, the true scaling is done, most of the green stuff has been done. I need to trim up the minis flashing and green stuff trimming though. Then prime. Then paint. Then flock & seal. The only thing left is building the drop pod model. I'll add the new ironclad dread model to the army when that comes out.

Two termies are on dead wolves (homage to 300 again).

The one assualt flamer has flame on tip of flamer, it was a head plume on one of the chaos marauder helmeted heads I used....

The 10 man assualt squad is cool, and I may play test it as a unit of sternguard with jump packs and 7 thunder hammers with storm shields...over a 500 pt unit!

Altogether I have 11 thunderhammers & storm shields, 5 termies with lightning claws, 2 power swords, 1 power fist, and 1 force weapon....nice close combat force....

I'll paint them all bronze with red capes, and there is black (wolf) fur on some capes too. The inside portion of the shoulder pads (raised border remains bronze) will be white and individual greek motifs will be painted. Minis with shields will also have their shoulder motif painted on the shield to match. The left shoulder will have the greek delta symbol painted in red with white background too. Gun encasements are going to be red. Power wepons will be glowing a whitish light blue.

cool. can you show pics of the best ones?

Awesome speed and work, but I think your greenstuffing needs a little work. The original terminator test model you posted had very rough looking greenstuff, despite the rest of the model looking fantastic.

Also, you should probably look into either purchasing some commercial shields such as the ones found here: http://www.crocodilegames.com/secure/list_items.asp?CatID=30&SubID=53&pageHeading=Items%20-%20Miniatures%20-%20Olympus From what I'm able to make out, your shields look very irregular and uneven. Again, this is in comparison to the great work you've done with the rest of the models.

Don't take my comment as an insult to your skills. Mass producing so many well converted and posed truescale marines in such a short time is a feat, and you have pulled it off very well. The true test however, is to make sure that your quality is consistent throughout, or the crappy bits WILL stand out like a sore thumb when all is said and done.

I understand completely. I'll be filing and trimming up the green stuff work I have done. Stay tuned for pics.......

started painting....the shield & banner will have a blue greek style border and a greek motif in the center that match....

Wow! How did you finish so many so Fast!?

It is very inspirational to see someone have an idea, nurture it, and then go for it and see it on to completion

The GS on his thighs is not as noticable now that it's painted, very nice! And his abdomen looks really good with the cloth draped across!!

I couldn't tell how you "biggerized" your marines in the WIP pics. Did you cut their thighs as you'd originally planned, or just add it to the waist / chest? Whatever you did, they look excellent

One constructive criticism- you may need to thin down the white a lot and do several coats to get it all the way there. I know you said you'd just started, but since it's going over a darker color it won't look as nice as the rest unless it's done in several thin coats! (you're probably doing this already )

Excellent start to the painting and can't wait to see all of 'em done up! What a wonderfully themed army

Do you have Photoshop? Have you thought about working on the fotos, making them brown-reddish-miller-style?

The quickness is due to the fact that I am on the road and living in a hotel...

The paint job is the base coat, and I will thin down next few coats....

Unfortunately the pics are from my phones camera and this laptop of mine does not have any art programs...

stay tuned for more

firstly how does living on the road make it faster and second why are you in the road? ignore my young'un curiosity if you want.

I am a contractor with the military and from 3pm to 10pm I am in the hotel with nothing to do but assemble & paint minis.....I am in Santa Maria at the moment....

awesome.

librarian conversion WIP......

Excellent work with the highlighting and glow effects. I'm loving how you turned this from an idea right through to production. Wish I had that kinda willpower, keep it up!

Nice work. I appreciate your attention to detail. I know some people that wouldn't mind a contractor like you

The paint is looking pretty good, but it lacks any dimension. I know it is a current WIP, just remember not t skimp on the dry-brushing and washes. Dry-brush is probably the easiest way to make convincing metal.

VERY spartan if I may say so btw.

Good ideas mate.

Here's my first attempt at truescaling:

There are two avenues to take when true scaling. one, like I did, is to take the actual models and enlarge them a bit. I leave the scouts the size they are, I add 3mm under assault & tacticals feet, 3mm on assualt & tacticals waist, and add 3mm between each arms & the chest on assault & tacticals to widen them, the terminators get 3mm under foot & waist too, but also 6mm added to thigh....This is fast and effective, and on the game table they are larger then other SMs, but not overly larger...

You took the second approach some do, and are converting a terminator model to look like a tactical. This approach will be more difficult to intagrate scouts into the army, and assault, and especially termies. You'll need to almost scratch build a termie to be correct scale next to this guy. It's nice work though.

here is a progress report......

cool minis you have there
keep up the good work

lolz , i thought this whasnt gonna happen , but you sir , proved me wrong ! I love the minis and think i might give it a go and use it as a chapter master of mine

Gretar

Ps. Could you make a list of everything you used for it ? Fx : How many grams of GS ? How importand is it too have and knive ? etc etc.

The beauty of this true scale is that it was easy! I bought two sheets of 8.5"x11" cloth like foam sheets that are 2.5mm thick. I super glued this under the feet of all tactical, assualt, and terminators. You will need an xacto knife to trim around the feet. Once these "heightened" feet are glued to the base, the flock will hide the odd shoe "lifts" on the mini. Then I made a small round circle foam peice to be glued into the cavity of the tacticals, termies, and assualt marines torsos. That was superglued in and atached to legs/waist part. So the tacticals and assualt have gained 5mm in height! With the termies, you do need to cut their thighs in half, and add 2 layers (5mm) of the foam. Superglue that too. The superglue is soaked into the foam and the foam becoms rock hard and does not melt when spray painted. On the termies, once the thigh extensions are in place, use green stuff to thicken the thighs and hide the foam. On all minis also add a small round 2.5mm foam between the arm and torso, this widens them to 5mm total! Very little fuss or muss, very little green stuff, Use dremel or file to smooth out!

What is the fluff behind greek spartan are they a lost legion or you just made them up with no fluff in mind(which i think is just fine) I want to know because i am a big fluff nutter.

Kogwar wrote:What is the fluff behind greek spartan are they a lost legion or you just made them up with no fluff in mind(which i think is just fine) I want to know because i am a big fluff nutter.

Actually I read IRON SNAKES and between that and 300, I made this army....


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Once this is all done and painted (this week) I'll post a ton of pics....I plan on selling this too (I am getting into AT-43) for $320 (including codex & supplies & 40k novel)........

army progress.....

oooooo cool guys.

Why I do say, you're a rather quick worker. It would probably take me somewhere from 2 to 4 years getting around to building an army that size, let alone make it truescale.

You're selling! What a bummer :-/ since these guys look awesome!

But it's good for someone else You'll have to give them tips on your style so that they can enlarge the army a bit (or they could just add vehicles to up it to 2000 or 2250)

Great stuff

I enjoy the challenge of making up unique armies...I do not play often or have time to play...Besides I am liking this new game called Secrets of the Third Reich, AE_WWII, and AT-43 (only because I found a store that is selling each and every box for $10, regardless of original price).......I'll try to get better pics up, but if anyone is interested, amke an offer before I post it on ebay....

The only issues I see with these shots is that the new scale Tactical Marine has exaggerated shoulders and chest which really make the legs look flimsy. Give him lightning claws and he'll look like a monkey.

Using Terminator armor as a basis for an upscaled Tactical Marine keeps the hips and legs more proportional to the chest and shoulders.

Heya Krazy, this would be a much better fit for the P&M Blogs section! Going to send it that way...NOW! ^_^

Breotan wrote:The only issues I see with these shots is that the new scale Tactical Marine has exaggerated shoulders and chest which really make the legs look flimsy. Give him lightning claws and he'll look like a monkey.

Using Terminator armor as a basis for an upscaled Tactical Marine keeps the hips and legs more proportional to the chest and shoulders.

that pick is bad angle, there is a bolter straped to his back making his profile larger

more pics

I know you've mentioned what's actually in the force, but have you calculated what army points you've created?

A quick mock-up may entice those who may be wanting to buy and give an idea of what you have created!

Thanks.

I would also like a price list I probably would spend 30 times more than needed without one of those

Gretar

Ps. Cant wait for the pics to show up ...

1500 pt list HQ 1 Chapter Master Leonidas, terminator armour, thunder hammer (spear conversion) & storm shield. 195 pts. HQ 2 Librarian with terminator armour & force weapon. Null Zone. 125 pts. ELITES Elite 1 - 8 Terminators, 5 lightning claws & 3 thunder hammers (spears) with storm shields. 320 pts. TROOPS Troop 1 - 10 marines, melta gun, missile launcher, Sgt Eurytus has power sword and plasma pistol, drop pod. 235 pts. Troop 2 - 10 marines, plasma gun, missile launcher, Sgt Aristodemus has power sword, and plasma pistol. 210 pts. Troops 3 - 10 scouts, 5 snipers, 4 bolters & a heavy bolter, sgt has homer. 165 pts. FAST Fast 1 - 10 Assualt Marines, Sgt Herodotus has power fist & plasma pistol, 2 flamers, 7 bolt pistols in unit, & close combat weapons (spears), melta bomb. 255 pts. (Add a land raider & dreadnought (neither included in this auction) and this army is 2,000 points!)


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gretar wrote:I would also like a price list I probably would spend 30 times more than needed without one of those

Gretar

Ps. Cant wait for the pics to show up ...

Price list? What I bought & it cost?

2 boxes of termies 50.00 x2, 2 boxes of assualt 25.00 x2, 2 boxes of tacticals 35.00 x2, 1 drop pod 35, 2 boxes of scouts 25.00 x2, (=305 +tax = $332.45).......then black primer 15.00, brush set 15, paints 30, green stuff 8, matte finish 10, gloss finish 5, grass 10, bits order 60, xacto knife 5, glues 5....(163 + tax = $177.67).....so a total of $510.12.....

Oh, codex 30.00 & misc supplies another 5.00.....

so $545.00+

Everything will be included in a sale plus 2 GW novels and bits.....

here are yet more pics.............

Very , very nice , i would lovo to have that army...

*Tries to sclupt but failes miserably , never takes up a brush again*

FOR SALE OR TRADE[u]

Here is a wonderful 1500 point, fully painted, fully converted, true scaled (enlarged) space marines with a Spartan 300 (movie theme). This is a one of a kind army!

You get
10 terminators,
20 tacticals,
10 assault,
10 scouts,
2 beacons,
1 drop pod,
1 codex,
1 telion scout sgt unpainted,
1 novel Iron Snakes (Greek themed space marine chapter),
several paints,
brushes,
glues,
xacto knife,
grass flock,
bits,
wd magazine,
and whatever I have GW related....

here is more info & pics

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/po ... 39225.page

here is the list- 1500 pt list HQ 1 Chapter Master Leonidas, terminator armour, thunder hammer (spear conversion) & storm shield. 195 pts. HQ 2 Librarian with terminator armour & force weapon. Null Zone. 125 pts. ELITES Elite 1 - 8 Terminators, 5 lightning claws & 3 thunder hammers (spears) with storm shields. 320 pts. TROOPS Troop 1 - 10 marines, melta gun, missile launcher, Sgt Eurytus has power sword and plasma pistol, drop pod. 235 pts. Troop 2 - 10 marines, plasma gun, missile launcher, Sgt Aristodemus has power sword, and plasma pistol. 210 pts. Troops 3 - 10 scouts, 5 snipers, 4 bolters & a heavy bolter, sgt has homer. 165 pts. FAST Fast 1 - 10 Assualt Marines, Sgt Herodotus has power fist & plasma pistol, 2 flamers, 7 bolt pistols in unit, & close combat weapons (spears), melta bomb. 255 pts. (Add a land raider & dreadnought (neither included in this auction) and this army is 2,000 points!)

Many of these minis have been dynamically reposed. The sgt is grasping a Tau by the throat, another sgt is holding a severed deamon head, and so on. Power weapons are glowing. Every mini has had some conversion. They are painted bronze, with dark red capes, many have spears, some have shields, they are blood splattered, and many more details! Also they have been matte sealed! All heads have been replaced with greek style helmets (from chaos wfb line).

I spent $500+ on the minis, bits, supplies, etc.... I will deal with USA only.

MAKE OFFER

this is sparta?

sale pending

sold in July for $600.00.....Now onto Space Hulk & Blood Angels!

krazynadechukr2 wrote:Wow, I looked on the net and found perfect examples of what I intend to do....

Thanks for reminding me to get these guys back from my local store!

I think you could save yourself some hassel with the shields by picking up some of the 6th edition warhammer empire spearmen, they had round shields that you could use (after removing the lion faces). Try ebay.

Cheers,

Dante