So which miniatures do you think the GW sculpters well and truly up?

To get the ball rolling...

Killa Kan. Maybe it's the mold, but the body halves don't fit, the legs have little or no support...

Lemartes
New White Scar guy
New Salamander guy

Broad Side Battle Suit
Commander + Crises Suits
*Their FW counterpart is waaaaaay beter

agreed Luna. FW have some really nice Tau kit. i think they fit better than the ones GW make, which i have had my boss describe as "constipated chicken suits"
My own worst model is the Cadian Sniper guardsmen. they always cone with bent gun barrels and usually end up bending them again when transporting them.

Still don't get why people don't like the Sorceress. Not to worry though.

For my bet, probably the Catachans. Compared to the original metals, they just aren't all that and a bag of potato chips!

The ENTIRE Dark Eldar line.

Lucius the Eternal
Daemonhosts
Some of the Inquistor Retinue
and
Lucius the Eternal

I was going to go with captain Cortez.

i have to agree about the dark eldar...they're so ****ing ugly that it's a wonder my FLGS sells one DE item /year

Dark Eldar. Bikes are Ok, but the raiders need a little love.
Lucius
Sisters of Battle - all the base sisters, and retributors.
Ratlings. Yes, the new ones. They did not get less ugly.
Doomrider. Why is this still in production?
Cassius
He'stan
kor'sarro khan
Imperial servitors.
Vespids. All of them. That sculptor should be ashamed.

Biovores. Only model to have a ballsack.
All Dark Eldar Excluding Raider/Ravager Chasis, but includeing crew.
Thats all I can think of for now.

wouldn't it be quicker to talk about which sculpts are done well from GW? It would avoid the endless lists!

Mine would have to be hmm the normal catachans they are great for conversiona but boy are they uuuugllly!

Agree with some but, Lemartes? What's wrong with that model?

Remember that the Dark Eldar are getting a complete 50-point facelift when they get redone for 5th ed. I agree that the old DE minis are horrid as sin, but I'm certainly interested in what the new minis will look like.

That said, Catachans are the minis that I feel GW did terribly wrong. They need to tone down the massive roid' arms and offer just a bit more variety on the minis. The Cadians are supposed to be uniform and almost identical. That's their fluff. Catachans are supposed to be 40K's badasses. They need a torso with crossed bandoliers. And a head with a cowboy hat. For survivalist junglefighters, they just feel too generic. And again. Disgusting roid' arms. Big no-go.

For sure, I definitely have high hopes for the new Dark Eldar, although that's not saying much because pretty much anything other than a preschooler's attempt at a clay stickman would be better than the existing models. GW can't do much worse than they have already. I also agree about the catachans, they look like some crazy commissar was half asleep when he signed the forms for the shipping of 25,000 tons of steroids to a certain jungle...

O.O Since when was Ontario part of the States?

They can have Quebec though. That's fine, we won't stop them there

Bat Manuel wrote:Lucius the Eternal
Daemonhosts
Some of the Inquistor Retinue
and
Lucius the Eternal

Pretty much most of my hated models are chaos GW drove me straight away from playing them with all the ass models they released:

1. Possessed marines (all versions)

2. New plague bearers

3. Oblits (all versions)

4. Lucius The crapternal

etc., etc.

I like the new bloodletters, but chaos just has way too many goofy models to ever go back to for me...


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Nightwatch wrote:For sure, I definitely have high hopes for the new Dark Eldar, although that's not saying much because pretty much anything other than a preschooler's attempt at a clay stickman would be better than the existing models.

I hope they all have that "fright wig" hair style like the one DE plastic head had. that would be full of lulz...

oni wrote:The ENTIRE Dark Eldar line.

Nice try, except the Dark Eldar line hasn't been in production since 3E - GW is still trying to unload the overproduction from when they thought the army would sell.

I happen to like the Lucius the Eternal model, and the models for Khan and Vulkan.
But...
Cassius
Killa kan
Deff Dread (construction wise)
dark Eldar
Warriors of Chaos Marauders

I like Khan and the chapter masters but i hate:

Vulkan,
The new emporer's champion,
Sicarius.


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I like Khan and the chapter masters but i hate:

Vulkan,
The new emporer's champion,
Sicarius.

biztheclown wrote:Agree with some but, Lemartes? What's wrong with that model?

When there are inanimate objects on a miniature ( in this case the purity seals and the blood bead decorations)
they are supposed to accentuate the sense of movement of the sculpt.

Assuming it makes some sort of sense that Lemartes sculpt would look better if its mounted on flying base ,
then it still looks like he is caught in a bad case of Xwind. ( hence people joke about wind test tunnel )

Same thing about the salamander guy.

i hate blackmane.
also snikrot.
but the worse is ulrik. whats with that old ass pistol. update it allready.

Oldgrue wrote:
Vespids. All of them. That sculptor should be ashamed.

Ah yes, the Vespids. To be honest, if they just sorted out the wings (insect rather bat) and the heads (should be like the drawing in the Codex, none of that pointy rubbish), I think they would be quite good.

What's wrong with the sorceress? I bought that model...

Anyway:

Dark Eldar, the entire line.
Witch Elves, Dark Riders, Blackguard, Warriors for Dark Elves.
Cold Ones and Terradons for Lizardmen.
Spawn, Plaguebearers, Daemonettes, just about all the new Chaos stuff except for Khorne bloodletters/juggers. Just looks too goofy and cartoonish now, and the daemonettes do look horrible in comparison to the old metals...the new prince kit doesn't look that great either IMO, most of the new heads we've seen make it look like a "special needs" demon.
Vulkan He'stan for Spess Mahreenz. He deserved a much better model than that.
Crisis Suits (really stupid design, make them like Forge Worlds or better please), Broadsides (same), Vespid, Krootox (because it's a bitch to assemble and practically useless in game) and Kroot Hounds (because they cost over $1 a point) for Tau.
Catachans for IG, the metals did look much better. The new command squad kit looks okay, but the regular plastic kit needed to be redone too...
Most of the Tomb Kings line...those horses and skeletons look too damn plain.
Not too impressed with most of the Skaven models, either.

Can't really think of anything else right off the top of my head.

the Commisar with the power axe

Sidstyler wrote:What's wrong with the sorceress? I bought that model...

The smoke. It looks ropey (both literally and metaphorically).

Um, Sid, after that laundry list, what *do* you like?

The pose of this model makes me cry

He's fine, especially as he's one of Jes' original RT/2E Warlock designs.

The smoke. It looks ropey (both literally and metaphorically).

Well, people dislike different things and that's cool. But FWIW I think the smoke is ropey because it's supposed to represent the The Black Horror (aka The Spell Formerly Known As Arnizapal's Black Horror) which IIRC was a black cloud of tentacles that engulfed units and did horrible things only conceived of in nightmares and specialized anime productions.

I like the 'crap Dr Who baddies' look of the Vespids.

New Hellhound, especially when compared to the Forgeworld ones.
Ogryns, not because of the sculpt but because they should have been plastic.

I was going to say, that warlock looks like an old school warlock.
I personally dont think they will screw up the DE when they redo them. I mean, the Eldar just look AWESOME right now, Im sure they will look great once done.

Hmm, minis that are Fugly. I agree Catachans look pretty bad. I used them to make my necromunda gang. They look great if you convert them into something else lol.
Lucious the Eternal looks awesomely bad. The pictures of him in the codex look awesome, but the mini is just YUCK.
I think Abbaddon looks very outdated. Not really a bad mini, just really old and now small.

These Minotaurs were especially hit with Ugly Sticks(TM):

LunaHound wrote:

biztheclown wrote:Agree with some but, Lemartes? What's wrong with that model?

When there are inanimate objects on a miniature ( in this case the purity seals and the blood bead decorations)
they are supposed to accentuate the sense of movement of the sculpt.

Assuming it makes some sort of sense that Lemartes sculpt would look better if its mounted on flying base ,
then it still looks like he is caught in a bad case of Xwind. ( hence people joke about wind test tunnel )

Same thing about the salamander guy.

Why is the "wind" blowing the flame & spear tassles one direction and the cloak the other?
OT,The worst minis in production,hmm,were to start
Ork tankbustas (has anyone really bought this kit?)
Killa kanz & Deffdreads ( design wise)
Cattychanz (Roidanatorz)
DE (hope the resculpts are less silly).

FITZZ wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

Why is the "wind" blowing the flame & spear tassles one direction and the cloak the other?

Maybe he's throwing it... awkwardly.

Chaos Dreadnought- 3 lbs of UGLY!

I LIKE Lucius, he's great if you paint him up right!

New ogryns. The 2nd E ones were waaaaay better. (And thats saying something)
All of the one piece marines. AOBR I think they are?

Tizz wins this thread hands down, and i thought Orc cheerleaders were fugly.

Anything metal that happens to be packaged in a box. Saraphim in particular, as there is IIRC only two poses for the bolt pistol equipped girls.

Specs wrote:
Maybe he's throwing it... awkwardly.

Yes the way his left foot is not fully on the ground , and the cape is flowing that way both accentuate
the movement that he is halting in order to throw the spear like a javelin.

But , the thing circled + the flaming decoration is messing the whole flow up.
Its almost like those 2 parts were never a part of the sculptor's plan , but someone said
"add more blings!" at the last moment.

This guy. It's not that he's a bad model, it's just what he is, and what he should be. When I first saw it, I though "oh, that's a cool Warlock. Spear's a bit big, but ...... That's a FARSEER?"

It's.... it's a freaking chibi!

Malnourished wrote:New ogryns. The 2nd E ones were waaaaay better. (And thats saying something)
All of the one piece marines. AOBR I think they are?

I disagree on BOTH of those. The newer Ogryns are really cool and nicely done. (Iused a bone head for my warboss body)
And for the AOBR they are easily just as nice as a normal SM. The only reason people dont like them is because they werent made to be posed anyother way then standing with the bolter to their chests. Other then that, they look just like other SM in every way

Nurgleboy77 wrote:Chaos Dreadnought- 3 lbs of UGLY!

I LIKE Lucius, he's great if you paint him up right!

The basing and idea behind it is great. the only thing ruining a perfectly good miniature is that Lucius is part of it...

KingCracker wrote:

Malnourished wrote:New ogryns. The 2nd E ones were waaaaay better. (And thats saying something)
All of the one piece marines. AOBR I think they are?

I disagree on BOTH of those. The newer Ogryns are really cool and nicely done. (Iused a bone head for my warboss body)
And for the AOBR they are easily just as nice as a normal SM. The only reason people dont like them is because they werent made to be posed anyother way then standing with the bolter to their chests. Other then that, they look just like other SM in every way

meh. Its a matter of opinion I suppose. I think the ogryns are really out of proportion, and in really bizarre poses...
The only relatively decent looking one it the dude holding his gun in both hands.

And on marines: That is precisely my point; SM don't strike me as the static type. They would flow like water. Or some other liquid with an equal or lesser viscosity.

I know I may draw ire for this but...

I hate the new Badruk model

He reminds me of Space Marine Special characters or Rogue Trader models except in a bad way. I mean I appreciate the 'Captain Morgan' pose but it doesn't work for this model.

Crazy_Carnifex wrote:Biovores. Only model to have a ballsack.

Actually there was a Slayer hero during the Warhammer Chaos things a few years back that, from behind, definitely had visible sack.

Sarrazon wrote:

This guy. It's not that he's a bad model, it's just what he is, and what he should be. When I first saw it, I though "oh, that's a cool Warlock. Spear's a bit big, but ...... That's a FARSEER?"

It's.... it's a freaking chibi!

It looks like either a child dressing up as farseer, or a womble. The angry helmet eyepieces only make it more hillarious.

On-topic-ness:
Metal space marine devestators. The arms fail to glue on, and when they finally fething STAY PUT, the model topples over. Clunk. Nudge the table, clunk. Breathe, clunk. LOOK AT IT FUNNY, clunk. Real space marines would not go 'clunk'.

The plastic ones aren't much better, but are at least plastic and thus lighter.

Cadians are fine models, but my god they're boring to assemble. Boring and time-consuming and fiddly.

Your mom.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Um, Sid, after that laundry list, what *do* you like?

That's not what this thread is about, sir! But fine...

The entire Ork line, minus buggies and trakks which need a new kit as soon as possible.
All the other Tau miniatures.
The Valkyrie, Sentinel, and IG Command.
All the new Dark Elves.
Space Marine Vanguard/Sternguard, the Drop Pod, Terminators, Vindicator, and Land Raider Redeemer.
CSM Terminators, Terminator Lord, Khorne Lord (I bought this model for $4 recently, not bad at all), recut CSM sprues, Defiler, and the Soulgrinder. The possessed are a love/hate for me, they look cartoony but I like some of the bits.
Necron Destroyers and Immortals.
All the WH/DH models, even though they're all metal and ridiculously expensive.
Most of the Eldar line, my favorites being the Dire Avengers, Striking Scorpions, Wraithlord, War Walker, and all the grav tanks. I forgot to add the jetbikes to the list of worst models, god that thing looks old.
Most of the Tyranids too, the Hive Tyrant and Carnifex models are so cool I almost started an army just because of them. Warriors, too.

I don't feel like getting too much into WHF or SG, so I'm stopping there.


As for the sorceress, I don't have a problem I guess since I never really thought that was supposed to be "smoke"...it just looks like a nice, swirly spell effect, and you can even see faces near the base.

Jin wrote:These Minotaurs were especially hit with Ugly Sticks(TM):

EVERY GW Minotaur is AWFUL. I would never put one of theirs on the field for any reason when so many other companies make such amazing versions.


My personal hated minis are Flamers of Tzeentch. I really hope a sculptor wasn't paid to make "a man sized rope of greenstuff with fire on it. Maybe a couple arms, too."

Skorpion wrote: Metal space marine devestators. The arms fail to glue on, and when they finally fething STAY PUT, the model topples over. Clunk. Nudge the table, clunk. Breathe, clunk. LOOK AT IT FUNNY, clunk. Real space marines would not go 'clunk'.

The plastic ones aren't much better, but are at least plastic and thus lighter.

The Metal Devs look good, but they're a pain to build because you need to pin the arms. The models with the low-slung guns (PC, MM, HB) are pretty well-balanced, but the Lascannon's a mess. I think a little more weight in the base would definitely help.

The squared-off plastic PC doesn't look nearly as good as the metal.

personally, while i like the concept of the vampire count army, i hate a good majority of the actual vampire models

only ones that come to mind that i dislike at the moment

LoTR Swan Knights. Stupid models, and not at all fitting for Lord of the rings.

- Warp Spiders have such lousy poses. However, like much of Jes' work on the Eldar from the early 90s, they've held up pretty well.

- Swooping Hawks. Metal figures with huge metal wings to balance on small bases, all balancing on one toe. Doesn't help that their rules suck too, if I recall correctly.

- Tankbustas look kinda wonky, and I'd rather make my own for cheaper.

- I absolutely LOATHE the Abaddon model. So ugly, so static, and so... jeez, he just looks like he was sculpted out of stupid.

- Killa Kans and Deff Dreads. Design is nice, but the fact that they're metal and don't like to fit together hurts.

- Catachan troops. The heavy weapons teams and command squad are great kits; it's a real shame that the regular troop box didn't get updated. They're better than most Dark Eldar kits though.

metallifan wrote:O.O Since when was Ontario part of the States?

They can have Quebec though. That's fine, we won't stop them there

f that s! Quebec pwns your face!

but on topic: As awesome as he is, Kayvaan Shrike. His backpack *looks* ok when it goes on but irt doiesnt fit right, and you can see it if you look really close. The AoBR captaina nnoys me too. there is no way to remove that bloody bolter without cannibalizing half the model. thats why i made a lightning claw for him. If he can't have a pistol and grt an extra attack in CC, i wanna reroll failed wound rolls.

korosarro khan whatever his name, the white scars cpt. he just looks all twisted and awkward.....not to mention he is walking, just plain insulting for one of the best bikers to be made to walk.
vulkan , no tassel on the spear , no flame dragon icon and he is pretty much fixed..... gw needs to run testers by local stores near their sculptors for some input. being a creative sculptor does not make someone tasteful

ot to mention he is walking, just plain insulting for one of the best bikers to be made to walk.

The word I have heard is that he's in two pieces so you can mount his upper torso on a bike. Which explains why he's holding his sword so high up.

Don't like the Abaddon model.
as well as the chaos marauders.

I give you the Wood Elf

Manstagbull!

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:I give you the Wood Elf

Manstagbull!

Ooh, good call Gonads

Just note this thread has surpassed it's "Best GW miniatures in production" counterpart in a shorter period of time. Could it be that we like grumbling about GW more than we like praising their efforts.

More like GW's minis have raised the bar, so what was OK is now bad.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:I give you the Wood Elf

Manstagbull!

I'd say it looks more like a half stag, half man-bull....


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OOO, and that post and reference to South Park becomes #1000 for me!

Doesn't Nagash always win these threads?



Personally my most hated sculpts are the SKoDA:



In themselves they are OK, but alongside the rest of the LotR range they look completely out of place. Back in 2003/4 they were a total buzzkill for me on the model collecting front because they were so "Warhammery".

Osbad wrote:Doesn't Nagash always win these threads?

I kind of like the Nagash miniature, maybe for nostalgia reasons. The secret war between himself and the skaven is some of the best background fluff in Fantasy.

Flashman - are you a 'Saint'??

Btw i like the new salamander guy.

Jin wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:I give you the Wood Elf

Manstagbull!

I'd say it looks more like a half stag, half man-bull....


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Do You See it?... There!... And There!... See! I Told You It was Real!

On Topic: That miniature is uuuggglly

athba wrote:Flashman - are you a 'Saint'??

I follow them and go to the odd match, but wouldn't call myself a die-hard fan

For the benefit of non-UK Dakka members, Athba is referring to Southampton Football Club, nicknamed the Saints and in severe danger becoming one of the first football league clubs to go up in smoke because of finance issues. There is/was a very fierce rivalry between Saints and Portsmouth Football Club (I've been to these matches and it's not pretty!) and I expect Athba is about to have a dig.

Correct Athba?

This guy is a lucky bastard

Osbad wrote:Doesn't Nagash always win these threads?

No he doesnt, he's everyones favourite happy as hell Lord of Death.

Purely because if I was that evil and that hard, i'm pretty sure i'd be happy too.

We're supposed to pick models CURRENTLY in production, right?

I think that rules out the all time worst model (Nagash) and some of the close runner ups (Crimson Fist Capt. Cortez?).

That Wood Elf model seems like it might be a 'winner' here...

A strigoi vampire with 'special needs'

I hate that special canadian sgt.Mainly because i cant get it
also the pose look weird.

Maybe you're just angry because he defeated you in the World Heavy Weight Title Match at Wrestlemania and now wears the Championship belt ALL the time, taunting you, reminding you of your defeat...maybe?

It does look a bit 'rushed' or 'unfinished' though...

Nah, he's disco-dancin' like in Saturday Night Fever!

Ogre Kingdom Scrap Launcher. It's flimsy, poorly designed, and the instructions make it more confusing.

If we're just talking about build ease, a month ago, we could have nominated the metal Steam Tank...

Brother SRM wrote:- Warp Spiders have such lousy poses. However, like much of Jes' work on the Eldar from the early 90s, they've held up pretty well.

- Swooping Hawks. Metal figures with huge metal wings to balance on small bases, all balancing on one toe. Doesn't help that their rules suck too, if I recall correctly.

- Tankbustas look kinda wonky, and I'd rather make my own for cheaper.

- I absolutely LOATHE the Abaddon model. So ugly, so static, and so... jeez, he just looks like he was sculpted out of stupid.

- Killa Kans and Deff Dreads. Design is nice, but the fact that they're metal and don't like to fit together hurts.

- Catachan troops. The heavy weapons teams and command squad are great kits; it's a real shame that the regular troop box didn't get updated. They're better than most Dark Eldar kits though.

I demand a Flash Animation starring all the aforementioned Characters in your Dawn of Awesome style!

garret wrote:I hate that special canadian sgt.Mainly because i cant get it
also the pose look weird.

*Smuggles Garret the SE Sergeant*
The old 2nd Ed Landraiders. The whole "Cube on treads" look... Yeugh...

The Ork Wartrakk is the ugliest piece of junk I have every laid eyes on. I refuse to field them out of pure hate of this model.

I have one of those. Half of it is decorateing the Base of my Godfex.

Nagash is still in production:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1150093&prodId=prod1140299


He can be yours for the low low price of $24.75 (actually, that's kinda cheap for a large model).

Ozymandias wrote:Nagash is still in production:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1150093&prodId=prod1140299


He can be yours for the low low price of $24.75 (actually, that's kinda cheap for a large model).

Dear God, I guess it does win after all!

I think it makes a better Cortez than his actual model.

If they weren't $15 a throw, disco Marines would be a fun diorama.

If you want to branch into construction nightmares:

Gnoblar Scrap Launcher
Penitent Engine
Metal Steam Tank

Collectively my three most hated models to build. Ugly is a whole different list... generally anytime GW tries to sculpt females, they're beyond heinous. Ridiculous barbie proportions (to inspire nerdlust, of course) coupled with horribly man-like faces.

Mattlov wrote:EVERY GW Minotaur is AWFUL.

I dunno, the Blood Bowl Mino is almost halfway decent, at least a shade above the standard models. But you're right, there are other companies out there that produce some incredible Minotaur models.

oni wrote:The ENTIRE Dark Eldar line.

Agreed !

Teek wrote:generally anytime GW tries to sculpt females, they're beyond heinous. Ridiculous barbie proportions (to inspire nerdlust, of course) coupled with horribly man-like faces.

I dunno, GW produces the odd bint worthy of attention. Can't fathom why they took this one out of production.

EDIT - Scratch that, she's still available to mail order.

Here however is a truly god awful model. First take a miniature that didn't really need an update and then replace it with this gak. GW, what the were you thinking?!

EDIT - I should say that the Unicorn is the target of my ire.

Oblits, they just don't know what to do with them, how to do them properly, they look gak.

That recently produced line of Dark Elf lords... especially the one with breasts... the male one.. with enormous breasts... terrible.

Dark Eldar, if they still count, especially that female special character with guns coming out of her hands.

Old plastic steeds, especially boars and wolves, wtf, why haven't these been upgraded yet?!?

Vespids - the suck with awful rules, if they aren't selling why make em at all?

Gargoyles still look bad.

Definately agree on the morgana le fay model and several of the dark and high elf casters and that beefy looking reindeer for wElves.

Hrm, are those with the exposed nipples male or female?

Flashman wrote:

Osbad wrote:Doesn't Nagash always win these threads?

I kind of like the Nagash miniature, maybe for nostalgia reasons. The secret war between himself and the skaven is some of the best background fluff in Fantasy.

+1 to the fluff part.

Greets
Schepp himself

I just don't think it looks right:

You know, that's not the guy's actual face, but rather the skin of one of his victims.

I know, I just don't like the model. The annoying thing is that I can't think why!

holme118 wrote:I just don't think it looks right:

What actually astonishes me with the Dark Eldar Archons is that the one they didn't release is even worse.

http://collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/3/3a/Unreleased_-_Dark_Eldar_Archon_with_splinter_pistol.jpg

Eyes... Melted... the AGONY...

holme118 wrote:I know, I just don't like the model. The annoying thing is that I can't think why!

Perhaps its the giganto claw on the tiny arm?

If the Dark Eldar were currently being produced, they'd "win" this contest, hands down...

oni wrote:The ENTIRE Dark Eldar line.

This. The only appealing minis are the Incubi, and even they are clunky and lack definition.

Flashman wrote:I dunno, GW produces the odd bint worthy of attention. Can't fathom why they took this one out of production.

EDIT - Scratch that, she's still available to mail order.

Note that she was updated to make the version on the right:


GW added a cape, hair extensions, and expanded the rod into a staff.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Skorpion wrote: Metal space marine devestators. The arms fail to glue on, and when they finally fething STAY PUT, the model topples over. Clunk. Nudge the table, clunk. Breathe, clunk. LOOK AT IT FUNNY, clunk. Real space marines would not go 'clunk'.

The plastic ones aren't much better, but are at least plastic and thus lighter.

The Metal Devs look good, but they're a pain to build because you need to pin the arms. The models with the low-slung guns (PC, MM, HB) are pretty well-balanced, but the Lascannon's a mess. I think a little more weight in the base would definitely help.

The squared-off plastic PC doesn't look nearly as good as the metal.

I always glue 1p coins to the underside of my more topheavy models. Works great for devastators.

As for most hated models, Im surprised no one has mentioned the new Daemonettes.
Theyre ugly. The 4th ed ones were awesome, but now GW seem to have taken a step backwards with the whole 'hag with crab claws' approach.

As people have mentioned, Dark Eldar, although I think that might be unfair, because the models are so dated. They looked good at the time. I also dislike the new hive tyrant, again, seems to be a step backwards to me. I was really into the whole 'alien queen' vibe the last one had going on.

hmm, & the new bloodletters aswell. Admittedly I like them more now than I did when I first saw them, but I still think they look a bit weedy compared to the 4th ed bloodletters.

SamG123 wrote:The pose of this model makes me cry

I turned that guy into a base playing bone singer. I altered the spear into a base and replaced the gun hand with one of the old Eldar plastic power fists. With that pose and those conversions, he looks like he's rockin' out.


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holme118 wrote:I just don't think it looks right:

I call that guy Opera man. He looks like he's going for a high note.

I wonder Which part is more oversized: The Fist, the Helmet or the Shoulderpads?

in 40k there is no such thing as oversized.

holme118 wrote:I just don't think it looks right:

I gotta say this model as well.
Its always, ALWAYS bothered me.

Sgt Rinehart wrote:Killa Kan. Maybe it's the mold, but the body halves don't fit, the legs have little or no support...

I bought six of these. Having to file and scrape away for twenty hot, sweaty minutes per model just to make the two halves fit together is not my idea of money well-spent. And the legs won't stick on unless you threaten them with an angle grinder.

Keyasa wrote:

Sgt Rinehart wrote:Killa Kan. Maybe it's the mold, but the body halves don't fit, the legs have little or no support...

I bought six of these. Having to file and scrape away for twenty hot, sweaty minutes per model just to make the two halves fit together is not my idea of money well-spent. And the legs won't stick on unless you threaten them with an angle grinder.

Deffinently agree w the crappy Killa Kans, but I love the unit in-game, so I did this.

a plastic spacemarine dreadnaught + 2 Killa Kans + a couple extra guns = an awsome Deaf Dread (kan arms) and two neat, and easy to build Killa Kans w 1 dreadnaught arm and one other gun each.

LunaHound wrote:
Lemartes
New White Scar guy
New Salamander guy

Khan and Vulkan have to be the best character models to come out in a long time... What are you smoking?

Dark Eldar line and a few of the limited edition sculps for Space Marines. "Angry shaking powerfist" LAWL

Backdraft005 wrote:

Khan and Vulkan have to be the best character models to come out in a long time... What are you smoking?

Dark Eldar line and a few of the limited edition sculps for Space Marines. "Angry shaking powerfist" LAWL

I like bits of Vulkan, my main issue with him is the glued on heavy flamer, but you can clip that off to fix it, as with the with bits blowing in the wrong direction.

Khan just doesn't really strike me as a White Scar, since when did they start carrying standard broadswords rather than Mongol influenced ones.

I dislike all of the Old Terminator Models you can Direct Order, and the Wolf Guard Models.

somecallmeJack wrote:
I always glue 1p coins to the underside of my more topheavy models. Works great for devastators.

They still insist on toppling over and breaking. Plastic ones are a bit less detailed, but SO MUCH LIGHTER.

To be honest, I really haven't had so much trouble with the metal Devs - a little extra weight, and they're good. They might roll down steeper slopes and inclines, but if you pin, they won't break.

I'm also going to have to go with the entire Ork BFG line. They just look like crap, more so than they're suppose to.

The Khorne Berserkers

That old Brettonian damsel really is a great model. I never actually saw how the new one is built on the old sculpt until now, and i still like the elegance and simplicity of the old one better.

While there are many horrible models, i really scratch my head at when some of the good models are replaced with bad ones.

For example: replacing the High Elf Shadow Warriors (which were new sculpts, whilst White Lions and Swordmasters are still coping with 5th edition sculpts) and replacing the lovely 'sexy' daemonettes.

My most hated one is the Space pope (esp his guard)

Omg it's like some creepy old guy is in his weelchail showing off his male blowup dolls!

Trasvi wrote:

The worst GW minis wood have to be the daemonettes and plaguebearers

I was unaware GW made minis outta wood.

Space Pope FTW.

Emperors Faithful wrote:Space Pope FTW.

I dunno, his rules are rubbish, but worst model in production?

Bat Manuel wrote:Lucius the Eternal
Daemonhosts
Some of the Inquistor Retinue
and
Lucius the Eternal

WHAT they're all awesome!

Maybe it's just the name, but personally I think the Space Pope and his guard look hilarious. I doubt I'd buy them, but I certainly wouldn't call them the worst minis. The funniest, maybe, but not the worst.

Backdraft005 wrote:
Khan and Vulkan have to be the best character models to come out in a long time... What are you smoking?

Dark Eldar line and a few of the limited edition sculps for Space Marines. "Angry shaking powerfist" LAWL

Please note the angle of the hand on that spear, based on that angle there is only one reasonable assumption of motion: he is lifting the spear about to throw it at an enemy, however, the purity seal on the spear implys that the spear is moving downwards, try the motion yourself, palm up, hand out, thrusting forwards... no. it doesnt work. his cloak is flowing freely to the models left side, but the flames on his iron halo are going to the right. wtf? the tacked on flamer under his hand? I am sorry, but that is also terribad.

I saw this one Beautiful vulkan conversion that was pretty simple but amazingly effective, ill see if i can find it again.

######EDIT* found it http://eek107.blogspot.com/2009/01/conversion-tutorial-vulkan-hestan.html


bad style choices and butt-ugly models are fine, crazy proportions are ok, its all subjective anyways.
but blatent technical pose problems? comeon.

Well, the ribbons on the spear at least are probably the easiest problem to fix in the history of miniatures gaming. One snip and you never have to worry about it again.

It wouldn't be too hard to get rid of the flames, either. You could also simply cut off the whole Iron Halo, and give him a new one.

Or chop it off and turn it around.

The white scars bike conversion pack and captain. horrible conversion pack

Fallenbourne wrote:The white scars bike conversion pack and captain. horrible conversion pack

Hey! What was wrong with it? It was decent. Not great mind you, but decent!

The vindicare holding rifle and pistol.

Doomrider, He's still in production after all.

Sirius42 wrote:Doomrider, He's still in production after all.

Doomrider is awesome

Backdraft005 wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
Lemartes
New White Scar guy
New Salamander guy

Khan and Vulkan have to be the best character models to come out in a long time... What are you smoking?

Dark Eldar line and a few of the limited edition sculps for Space Marines. "Angry shaking powerfist" LAWL

I am smoking your face after cooking it on Vulkans built in backpack BBQ... thing. Another shrimp on the barbie Vulkan?


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Demogerg wrote:

Backdraft005 wrote:
Khan and Vulkan have to be the best character models to come out in a long time... What are you smoking?

Dark Eldar line and a few of the limited edition sculps for Space Marines. "Angry shaking powerfist" LAWL

Please note the angle of the hand on that spear, based on that angle there is only one reasonable assumption of motion: he is lifting the spear about to throw it at an enemy, however, the purity seal on the spear implys that the spear is moving downwards, try the motion yourself, palm up, hand out, thrusting forwards... no. it doesnt work. his cloak is flowing freely to the models left side, but the flames on his iron halo are going to the right. wtf? the tacked on flamer under his hand? I am sorry, but that is also terribad.

I saw this one Beautiful vulkan conversion that was pretty simple but amazingly effective, ill see if i can find it again.

######EDIT* found it http://eek107.blogspot.com/2009/01/conversion-tutorial-vulkan-hestan.html


bad style choices and butt-ugly models are fine, crazy proportions are ok, its all subjective anyways.
but blatent technical pose problems? comeon.

Yes, either that or you can just scratch build something else that looks equally cool, on top of which you don't have to support GW's "special" design team.


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Flashman wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:Space Pope FTW.

I dunno, his rules are rubbish, but worst model in production?

Agreed, although he could hardly be any sillier. THE WRATH OF ... well, of the Tau I suppose.

It's still on the GW website (for $2475) so it's still in production

The very worst model in Games Workshop histor is...

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Nagash!

chaplaingrabthar wrote:It's still on the GW website (for $2475) so it's still in production

The very worst model in Games Workshop histor is...

*drum roll*



Nagash!

If you scratch the surface you will notice he is made out of pure gold though. Either gold or chocolate, it really depends on how much you believe.

chaplaingrabthar wrote:It's still on the GW website (for $2475) so it's still in production

The very worst model in Games Workshop histor is...

*drum roll*



Nagash!

You mean 24.75$ right?

chaplaingrabthar wrote:It's still on the GW website (for $2475) so it's still in production

Nagash!

$2.5k USD?

I knew GW was doing price increases, but that seems a bit excessive for a single model.

For that kind of cash, I can afford to be serviced for a month in Thailand, airfare included!

Yeah, I missed decimal point, but that atrocity is still overpriced at $2.475 or even $0.2475

Yes... now to the chocolate.

Wrexasaur wrote:Yes... now to the chocolate.

Certainly!

Without a doubt, Nagash. His backstory was friggin' brillaint and I hope they bring him back as a character-- but he NEEDS a new model.

You know, I bet you could model Nagash off of the deceiver model...greenstuff a robe, do a headswap, etc

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I think you get the point.

Has the model for Vulkan been released yet? I thought it would be funny if it turns out the halo on his back was just glued on wrong...though if it's all one piece that's a little harder to explain.

It's still a pretty bad model, though. I thought it was okay at first, but the more I look at it the more I hate it. He doesn't look anything at all like his art, and that's usually not a bad thing since Snikrot looked much better, but not in this case. His flamer looked cooler, he had the old stormtrooper-looking helmet, his spear was cooler, his armor looked all segmented and cool like a Techmarine...I'm not really sure what they were thinking.

combatmedic wrote:The Ork Wartrakk is the ugliest piece of junk I have every laid eyes on. I refuse to field them out of pure hate of this model.

This I have to whole heartly agree with! I bought a warbuggy yesterday just to see what the kit was like. OMFG! The copyright on the model was 1996 and it looked like it. The Orks just looked like the metal fat IG Officers they use to sell. A kit that should only take maybe an hour to clean and put together took four hours because I had to modernize the model with current Orks move the motor. The Wartrakk model is even worse that the buggy.

I'm going to put in my vote for worst ever GW model as....


Oh, on a random note, Nagash reminds me of Santa.

Sgt Rinehart wrote:Killa Kan. Maybe it's the mold, but the body halves don't fit, the legs have little or no support...

I thought it was just me. Yeah I had to do a good bit of work to get those models to come together. It also would have been nice if the legs had pins built into them because as it stands pinning is mantatory unless you wanna hold the model together forever.

The model looks good IMO. I love the killa kan look, but the kit itself is frustrating.

+1 vote for Killa Kans.

orks need a plastic killa kan kit bad. In the very least it would be nice to get some KMBs and Zookas without having to convert them. Though mixing them in with my current kan brigade will throw me off. It would be wierd to have a light kan model. The metal kans are pretty heavy.

I like Nagash.

Howard A Treesong wrote:I like Nagash.

Yes, I like Nagash too. You kids weren't around when he was first released, so you're not feeling the nostalgia factor. Anyway, as this is my thread, I hereby ban any further nominations of Nagash

I WAS around when Nagash was first released. paid GBP9.99 for him from GW Oxford, and he does indeed suck as a model, especially as the illustration of him in the contemporaneous Warhammer Armies: Undead book was utterly fantastic. Then they let Morley sculpt Nagash as his first multi-part metal mini and that thing was the result.

chaplaingrabthar, consider this your first warning. Worship at the Altar of Morley or go elsewhere please.

(intended as humour )

Yeah. I'm more of an Arch-Goodwinite myself. Also, and I'm sure this is heretical, but I don't care for Bian Nelson styled Orc/Ork models. I liked the goofy cartoony ones better.

chaplaingrabthar wrote:Yeah. I'm more of an Arch-Goodwinite myself. Also, and I'm sure this is heretical, but I don't care for Bian Nelson styled Orc/Ork models. I liked the goofy cartoony ones better.

Flashman is speechless (but is obviously still able to type)

EDIT - about the unfathomable dislike of Brian Nelson Orks, not the practising of Goodwinism (which is perfectly acceptable).

chaplaingrabthar wrote:I don't care for Bian Nelson styled Orc/Ork models. I liked the goofy cartoony ones better.

Repent heretic!

phillosmaster wrote:

chaplaingrabthar wrote:I don't care for Bian Nelson styled Orc/Ork models. I liked the goofy cartoony ones better.

Repent heretic!

No, I fear there is no hope for this fellow. Summon the Ordo... what would be the right branch of the inquisition for heresy against pretty damn amazing Ork sculpting.

I can't say the DE models look bad just because they happen to be my second or possibly first favorite army, but all I have to say is they definitely need an update on those metal models.


Worst model - The vampire counts fell bats. Just look at those flying pigs!

I'm suprised noone has mentioned it yet:

The worst model currently in production in my view is The Soulgrinder. The new plastic deamonettes are also not easy on the eye either.

The SM Thunderfire Cannon also looks awful. Its not even the gun that bothers me, but the techmarine who operates it looks even worse.

I actually like that Nagash model btw..

Oshunai wrote:I'm suprised noone has mentioned it yet:

The worst model currently in production in my view is The Soulgrinder. The new plastic deamonettes are also not easy on the eye either.

The SM Thunderfire Cannon also looks awful. Its not even the gun that bothers me, but the techmarine who operates it looks even worse.

I actually like that Nagash model btw..

I fancy the TFC and its operator. It really doesnt look that bad, though it was a small pain to assemble, and not plastic like the instructions lead you to believe.

Man, I almost feel bad for actually liking Nagash. When not painted like a scary clown he's pretty cool.

I'm gonna go ahead and nominate all the Greater Daemons. Except the Lord of Change, he's cool. The rest look... just terrible. Especially the Great Unclean One.

AlexCage wrote:Man, I almost feel bad for actually liking Nagash. When not painted like a scary clown he's pretty cool.

I'm gonna go ahead and nominate all the Greater Daemons. Except the Lord of Change, he's cool. The rest look... just terrible. Especially the Great Unclean One.

Yes, seconded, especially the Great Unclean One, but then that's because Nurgle is essentially a stupid idea, news flash

Sick+Fat != Tough

So a Giant Fat Demon with lots of pimples, even well painted, looks more like, well, a reject from the Biggest Looser instead of a Wargod's Avatar.

I've noticed they still have Slick Devlan from Inquisitor in production..

The Great Unclean One looked fine until they made that alternate head. What were they thinking? At least the original had a *face*, the newer one...well I don't know what to make of it. Actually the second Bloodthirster head wasn't up to much either.

meh im sorta fond of the greater demons i like em.
but the new daemonetts are hideous! not that i demand big bewbs on every model but isnt slaanesh supposed to be the hole god of lust thing???
i dislike the 4 foot head bloodletters too i like the satanic goats better
and to finish my rant. GOD THE KANZ KIT SUCKED TO MAKE AND THE SOULD GRINDER WAS A PAIN THE !@# TOO!

sry if i was too "angry"

The Keeper of Secrets model is pretty good, aside from the new head.

The second Bloodthirster head is an improvement over the original IMO. The KOS and GUO, not so much. I liked the Bull Head/Big Face that they had.

I'd say metal Possessed, but they're out of production. I'd say all Dark Eldar besides Incubi and Scourges, but that's a given. I'd say 'Gary Morley', but that's like saying "water is wet".

So I'll go with the Chaos Ogres, Trolls and Minotaurs. They look fuggin' fugly!

Dark eldar , Just Dark eldar

+1 to new daemonettes and the Vindicare holding a pistol and a rifle like he's posing for a photo op.

the Dark Eldar plastics arent at all bad, but the other miniatures from their faction are....the new Daemonettes are awful, so is the current great unclean one...

I am almost positive I have read somewhere either here or on another site that the nagash model was made to look terrible on purpose as a bet.

Flashman wrote:

phillosmaster wrote:

chaplaingrabthar wrote:I don't care for Bian Nelson styled Orc/Ork models. I liked the goofy cartoony ones better.

Repent heretic!

No, I fear there is no hope for this fellow. Summon the Ordo... what would be the right branch of the inquisition for heresy against pretty damn amazing Ork sculpting.

No, I recognise the sculpting is great and the Nelson look is the GW Ork look these days, I just preferred them when they were soccer hooligans in space instead of hulking behemoths

meh i like both the new and the old orks the old ones make me chuckle and t he new ones make me think boy is he angry. but it got screwed up when there productions of both at once and it just looked funky

I don't know if they are in production, or if they are just trying to dump them off on punters, but:

Chaos Ogres.

Chaos Furies (saw them in a GW yesterday)

Any cartoony halfling whether from Bloodbowl, Mordheim or whatever. The LOTR ones are swish.

Ok, I cant belive you guys have forgotten him...the SM's Mk1 Veteran Sergeant. Seriously whats wrong with that guys head? (sorry for the lack of incriminating photo)

Im also gunna have to go with the entire DE line.

And (bad english I know) my final one would have to be the new Hive tyrant, why does a 12ft tall eating machine have a sword when every other monster in that guys army has sything talons?

Probably just a throwback to the old tyrant model, but I think it's awesome. Helps get rid of the stereotypical "Alien" look, also.

All the vampires in VC
Black knights in vc
blood knights, uglier than the ugliest knight, and five times as expensive to boot.
fell bats

beastmen..

Harpies

90% of the tomb kings range.

Skaven clanrats & ogres..

Ogre kingdoms.. what a neat trick, making an army out of TFG .. aka comic-guy from simpsons.

anything and everything nurgle except typhus and pickelhaube helmets.

Mr banana fingers. aka archon of the dark eldar.
Wyches.. all the right elements, but all in the wrong place.
warp beasts, cool in theory.. horrible in reality.


Any greater daemon made by GW except the current tzeentch one.

furies .. the bastard children of a varghulf and a fell bat.

new daemonettes


etc.

I just realized how dumb the daemonhost looks. I mean yea its a dude possessed by a daemon, but come on... LOOK AT IT!

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1140004&prodId=prod1080169

(dont feel like copying the image and hosting it somewhere)

Lemartes, Dante, Corbulo.

combatmedic wrote:I just realized how dumb the daemonhost looks. I mean yea its a dude possessed by a daemon, but come on... LOOK AT IT!

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1140004&prodId=prod1080169

(dont feel like copying the image and hosting it somewhere)

Well, this one does look like junk. Kinda ike they taped his mouth shut as well. The Inquisitor one though is ace


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wuestenfux wrote:Lemartes, Dante, Corbulo.

I second this! And Ill add Mephiston.
While I like the characters themselves, I despise the models.

How can people not like the nurgle models?

When it comes to nurglings-in my opinion, fething easily.

I dislike the new bloodletters, & the new GUO's head, & the new KOS head.

but as Ive stated many a time, the new Daemonettes take the prize for ugliness in my book.

Ogres are pretty stupid aswell, but everything pales compared to the new daemonettes.

I mean wtf. Small fighting cocks.

Personally, i think that the GW Bloodthirster is horrible. (but the FW version is AWESOME!!)

Ensis Ferrae wrote:Personally, i think that the GW Bloodthirster is horrible. (but the FW version is AWESOME!!)

I think the FW Bloodthirster is hideous. The normal one looks much better IMO.

dark elf warriors, lemartes, dark eldar everything.

Dark Elf Warriors? They look not bad, do they?

Yeah, the Dark Eldar models basically suck.

What? There's nothing wrong with Dark Elf Warriors, they look nice and militaristic while still having that Elven look.

If you guys and girls hate the modles so much WHY DO YOU PLAY?

Wait so you like the dark elf models and not the forgeworld bloodthirster wtf cheese elemental???

Sternguard_rock wrote:If you guys and girls hate the modles so much WHY DO YOU PLAY?

This thread was intended as a wry counterpoint to one entitled "Best GW miniatures currently in production" (or something similar). No one will argue that some of GWs sculpting is second to none (see the new Space Hulk minis), but they can also produce some absolute stinkers.

Sternguard_rock wrote:If you guys and girls hate the modles so much WHY DO YOU PLAY?

I think the GeeWizz is a bloody horrible car, that is not going to stop me from driving though...

typhus wrote:Wait so you like the dark elf models and not the forgeworld bloodthirster wtf cheese elemental???

Yes. I disagree with you, HURR DURR. Dark Elf models are really good. These aren't Dark Eldar models, they're the Fantasy equivalent. Much, much better.

Cheese Elemental wrote:

typhus wrote:Wait so you like the dark elf models and not the forgeworld bloodthirster wtf cheese elemental???

Yes. I disagree with you, HURR DURR. Dark Elf models are really good. These aren't Dark Eldar models, they're the Fantasy equivalent. Much, much better.

I know lol how stupid do you think i am

wuestenfux wrote:Dark Elf Warriors? They look not bad, do they?

Only if you've never seen the predecessor models from WFB5. The older, metal models had far more visual presensce in their shoulders and chests, rather than being narrow-chested and girly-skirted.

Sorry, I just think these ratling guys are hideous models ! And I love the original ones !

JohnHwangDD wrote:

wuestenfux wrote:Dark Elf Warriors? They look not bad, do they?

Only if you've never seen the predecessor models from WFB5. The older, metal models had far more visual presensce in their shoulders and chests, rather than being narrow-chested and girly-skirted.

They're elves. What did you expect, Rambo clones? Elves have always been about sissy guys who favour speed over strength.

Lol?

WarhammerTabletop wrote: Lol?

thats just incase you want a guy whos way to stubby, buff, skavenish and overly accessorized...
JUST INCASE...

Trasvi wrote:That old Brettonian damsel really is a great model. I never actually saw how the new one is built on the old sculpt until now, and i still like the elegance and simplicity of the old one better.

While there are many horrible models, i really scratch my head at when some of the good models are replaced with bad ones.

For example: replacing the High Elf Shadow Warriors (which were new sculpts, whilst White Lions and Swordmasters are still coping with 5th edition sculpts) and replacing the lovely 'sexy' daemonettes.

My most hated one is the Space pope (esp his guard)

thats not the space pope. this is the space pope.

The Tryptich of Doom!?


AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

I read throught this thread, trying to avoid the inevitable Nagash and Dark Eldar funnies and thinking about which miniature I'd nominate. But then I got to Warhammer Tabletop's nomination, and I really can't top it. A truly awful model.

A word in defence of the Killer Kanz, since a few people have mentioned them. While they are a bit unpredictable when it comes to assembly (depending on the quality of the casting), they are actually perfectly good looking models. Most Ork players don't want them redesigned, they just want them available in plastic. I don't think they deserve to be part of a 'worst minatures' list.

I hate some of the Ork boyz sets because the detail is really bad with some of them. My friend got some Ork boyz and he showed me what it looked like and you could not see the detail on the fingers and arms.

metallifan wrote:O.O Since when was Ontario part of the States?

They can have Quebec though. That's fine, we won't stop them there

Nobody shall take quebec out of canada
That´s like chilean triying to get mendoza
and the worst mini are definetely old space marine vets andassault guardians with no helmet. Well in fack every non helmeted model(except orks) is the ugliest ever

maximus wrote:

My eyes are burniiiiiing! Take it away!

The catachan guys! They're so ugly that.. I can't even make up something.. They're good converting material for chaos though

I really don't mind a few ugly miniatures in an army...as long as it's not the entire army like Catachans. You can hide, paint nice, or convert even the worst mini. They aren't that big.

My fugly secret is that I think the worst GW miniatures have always been their line of marine/guard tanks. Top billing goes to the Leman Russ. I have to accept the Russ as part of the game, but I have never seen one (No matter how nicely painted) that didn't make me cringe (Or laugh because of how silly it looks).

I don't have as much of an issue with their bigger tanks, chimera, or NEW rhino. No GOOD tank design in the bunch, but not double baggers like the Lemon Rust. (As a pal says, when all you have is lemons, make a guard army out of it...)

Jain Zar, Howling Banshee pheonix lord, destroyed my soul when I first saw her. Everything from her slowed pointed toes to her overdone head of hair to her RIDICULOUS facial expression makes me want to burn the sculptor. And such a great ruleset too...

/twitch.

Jain Zar is an ancient model. It and the other Phoenix Lords brought a level of detail and awesome that had never been seen back then, her movement and pose was something really unique. The hair and mask are all part of the same Helmet btw... And any attempt to burn the sainted Jes Goodwin will result in me visiting your house in the wee small hours and laying a chocolate egg in your slippers as an unpleasant surprise for your waking moments...

For me it has to be the Grotz and Runtherd, the molds on them were terrible and made painting a complete pain..

Think Wahammer Tabletop won the thread with that Catachan Commander. I remember thinking when it was released "I am never ever buying that model".

Skaven: The current clan rat model, soon to be replaced with a marginal improvement.

Chaos: The current spawn model, it would be nice if they stood up.

Dark Eldar: Warriors... the incubi look cool, but the warriors really blow.

Got to agree with the Killa Kans - SOOOO much green stuff and filing to fix the gaps

I am almost positive I have read a story of how Nagash was created as a joke.

And any attempt to burn the sainted Jes Goodwin will result in me visiting your house in the wee small hours and laying a chocolate egg in your slippers as an unpleasant surprise for your waking moments...

You mean like those Cadbury creme eggs? I like those.

A pet hate of mine is the chaos dreadnought,it doesn't look great,weighs a ton and if not based properly it will fall over.

That's strange. I have 4 of them and have never had a problem with them falling over. In fact they stand up nicely even without the base. I agree they are in need of a facelift, but work well as a base for conversions.

Wolfgang wrote:For me it has to be the Grotz and Runtherd, the molds on them were terrible and made painting a complete pain..

If you are referring to the new models then I have to both agree and disagree
The quality of casting on mine was very good, there were virtually no mold lines.

However the actual grots have very little in the way of muscular detail.

well, just about every chaos special character (mainly kharn the betrayer), the chaos dreadnought, and the entire dark eldar line.

Ahriman and Fabius B are both good models, Abbadon is just out of scale nowadays due to scale creep.

Fabius was screwed by the pumpkin-head minion models.

Yeah, those 'supasoldier' space marines are fugly, but Bile himself is a really nice model. I also like the Tyrant of Badab bloke. I do hate the Lucius one tho, that sucks balls.

Goliath wrote:
However the actual grots have very little in the way of muscular detail.

That's because weedy runts don't have any muscles

chaplaingrabthar wrote:I WAS around when Nagash was first released. paid GBP9.99 for him from GW Oxford, and he does indeed suck as a model, especially as the illustration of him in the contemporaneous Warhammer Armies: Undead book was utterly fantastic. Then they let Morley sculpt Nagash as his first multi-part metal mini and that thing was the result.

Ha! I got the same mini from the same store

I ended up using his staff for my SoB Cannonness (several years later), his head for nothing and his body for an Inquisitor scale conversion.

My vote for ugliest GW miniature? It's kind of a cheat, but I don't think they've done a decent dragon since the Great Spined Dragon (a truly brilliant sculpt).

This lack of decent dragons is typified by the ugly-ass Wyvern rider

M.

They kept screwing up dragons due to that crapass 'S' shape they gave them to make them all fit on a monster base (actually most of that big range of older dragons were gak looking as well, especially the oddly shaped 'lava dragon'). I always bought Grenadier dragons and smirked when the GW store guys would shout at me from bringing them to the shop, shortly before everyone made a fuss about how good they looked.

The new wyvern is a nice model with some movement to it, it's a step in the right direction, but when you consider some of the dragons out there, GW does seem to miss the boat.

All the dwarfs that come in the Battle for Skull Pass.

ELDAR...all of them

cadian512 wrote:DARK ELDAR...all of them

FYP.

Seriously, you don't like Jes Goodwin's Eldar models? I have Jes' Eldrad & Warlocks, along with Jes' Aspects & Harlies. They're all great models, even though they date back over a decade.

If cadian is who i think he is, he dislikes Eldar because they serve his cadians their a*** on a regular basis

I'm amazed the Beast of Nurgle hasn't been mentioned yet. It doesn't even look like what it's supposed to be. It looks like an odd-shaped rock. It's got lumps and angles all over it in strange places. Its made of corners for feth's sake. Far and away the worst recent GW mini. There's just no excuse these days for ruining a perfectly good creature design with such a terrible sculpt.

Runners up: Dark Eldar of course, Abadon the Despoiler (needs an update). And, wait for it, this will be controversial: most space marines. They just clearly don't require much effort from the sculpters. The end result isn't bad, just lazy.

I gotta defend the new daemonettes -yeah they're not as elegant as the former ones, but I prefer that. They bridge the gap between the Rogue trader style minis and the 3rd edition ones. Still sort of pretty, but monstrous at the same time. They fit the fluff nicely. Daft that they're censored though.

I absolutely HATE the current Tyranid Tyrant Guard, both their look and their current functions. I refuse to use them. I'll stick with the previous version, no matter how much others hated them.

Really? I have one of the older ones, as well as one of the new ones, and I like the new ones better. I just didn't like the whole 2 fused hands = a shield... I think thay might have got the idea across a little better with the idea of this small tank next to the tyrant.... that and it's a hell of a lot easier to build... I found the arm slots for the old Guard were absolutely brutal to get the arms to stay... I don't know how many times I've have to fix it

hell cannon...the model looks awesome but oh for the love of god it is horribly made, no piece fits...not a one

statu wrote:If cadian is who i think he is, he dislikes Eldar because they serve his cadians their a*** on a regular basis

wat he said... saught of...not realy....
my guard own and you know it

SargesSquad wrote:Really? I have one of the older ones, as well as one of the new ones, and I like the new ones better. I just didn't like the whole 2 fused hands = a shield... I think thay might have got the idea across a little better with the idea of this small tank next to the tyrant.... that and it's a hell of a lot easier to build... I found the arm slots for the old Guard were absolutely brutal to get the arms to stay... I don't know how many times I've have to fix it

You're right about how hard it was to build/fix them. That applies to a lot of the metal Tyranids, not to mention a lot of other GW minis. Best to pin them and have the metal glue handy.

I didn't have a problem with the two hands = shield, it was the same kind of thing as two hands = venom cannon. I just think the idea of a guard that actually functions like a real guard, not a guard DOG, let alone a BLIND guard dog, was a better idea. And the idea of SM DNA being used to create humanoid TG's.

That may be a minority view here but that's how I saw it.

Totally see where you're coming from Lord; I just feel like the new look is like a bad guy with his attack dogs... just on defense.

Not argument on this, the current edition Biovore, complete with testys and *richard*. I hate pretty much everything Tomb Kings. The previous edition of terradons was way better and the cold ones should look like the Dark Elves Type.
And opinions don't count if you hate them coz you suck against 'em.

I say this is the worst model so far that I have seen made.

I am of the opinion that the 7th edition Empire State Troops are garbage.

M.

The assault on black reach deffkoptas, good to look at, but poorly designed, they don't fit together properly

That's coz they only fit with glue, rubber bands and a whole lot of modelling putty.

Got that right...

I agree. I have a couple of the AoBR deffkoptas. Spent way more time than I would have wanted cleaning up some of the models.

However, don't you kind of get what you're paying for? Don't get me wrong, AoBR is still a great deal, but that many models for that small a price.... you've got to figure GW had to cut corners in a couple of spots to come out with a profit margin...

A NEW CHALLENGER HAS APPEARED!

The head on that wolf is awful! If you cover it up, the model's not bad.

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, a puppy!

It looks like hes going :

OH A BONE , A BONE , CAN I FETCH ?

And his eyes ? My god , what are they feeding them ? Shrooms ?

I'm trying to figure out why, of all the weapons to use while mounted, he chose the ones with the least reach? And how does he get down without hurting the 'wolf'.

How does he even get up there?

That's easily the stupidest model in recent GW history, both from a concept standpoint and an execution standpoint.

Just showed my GF the SW Wolf Rider and she instantly commented that it looks like a WoW mount, perhaps appealing to the WoW kids might have provided the motivation for the bizarre proportions.

I feel like such a loser for the amount of laughs this thread has given me, especially the stuff on the DE archon, classic.

Now ive seen they can be fielded in 40k, I'd like to add chaos furies.

I bought a pack and binned them about 2 days later



They make me shudder :|

I can't believe the hate on the new deaaeeaemonettes, I think they look great at least. The bloodletters look good but definately too spindly, need to be more like skulltaker.

The IG rough riders also have to be in here, always detested those models, eueugh

gretar wrote:It looks like hes going :

OH A BONE , A BONE , CAN I FETCH ?

And his eyes ? My god , what are they feeding them ? Shrooms ?

that one gave me a good rofl

I like the Furies because they're ugly. And because I have to justify owning 30 of the damned things.

The current plastic Daemons all suffer from nostalgiaitis. The spindly Bloodletters are fine, but I prefer the big beefy ones from the previous edition. The previous Daemonettes are incredible, so in comparison the new ones are just gak.

Alright, so this one is Forgeworld rather than GW, but I figured that was still allowed....

I present, the 'Plague Ogryn'.



I mean, look at it! It's just a pile of dog doo. you could pretty much just look down the back of your sofa, find some random bits of crud, slap some GS on it, smooth it a bit and you'd have this model. And they charge you almost £15 for it! Ludicrous.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I'm trying to figure out why, of all the weapons to use while mounted, he chose the ones with the least reach? And how does he get down without hurting the 'wolf'.

Well, to be honest mounted swordsmen were intended to slash near the heads of their foes. If he's just swinging his lighting claws as such, that's fairly effective.

I'm the one person on the planet who likes that model.

The worse model out right now is the Exosist tank. I have to shave parts and green stuff so much to get that top to fit right.

Having just put a Lord of Change together (again), I'd nomimate that for purely being a pain to put together. There's way too much weight standing on a very small area (one foot, which itself is two parts), as one leg is in the air. The staff only fits in one or two positions because of the wings, and you'd have to use Green Stuff to fill the gap between the wings. It's tough to pin the problem parts too, with them being so thin.

As far as sculpts though, the Dark Eldar Lord that was mentioned is awful (even though the face is someone else's skin, he looks ridiculous with the huge shoulders and claw). That new SW guy riding the wolf is horrendous too.

Sort of on-topic: Anyone who's built Chaos Raptors (the newer style ones)- do they balance ok? They look really ubstable when I look at them on GW's site.

I forgot how crummy the old Chaos Furies were. The bowling team from Hell!

What about the old old harpies then, the unicorn flying monkey squadron... fething hideous.

InyokaMadoda wrote:Alright, so this one is Forgeworld rather than GW, but I figured that was still allowed....

I present, the 'Plague Ogryn'.



I mean, look at it! It's just a pile of dog doo. you could pretty much just look down the back of your sofa, find some random bits of crud, slap some GS on it, smooth it a bit and you'd have this model. And they charge you almost £15 for it! Ludicrous.

It's not that bad. I mean, it's supposed to look blobby and disgusting, and it does. It's fairly well sculpted, even if the end result is hideous.

captain.gordino wrote:
It's not that bad. I mean, it's supposed to look blobby and disgusting, and it does. It's fairly well sculpted, even if the end result is hideous.

Not that bad? Do you have eyes? It's abhorrent! And not in a good way. It's not that well sculpted - compare it to their other demon work, or some of the other infantry sized models. This really is just quick, easy, sloppy modelling.

Sorry, but this is just pure gak.

RAR!!!!

To be honest, I don't care about Lemartes - he's an easy model to replace with a plastic conversion.

DD, i think the origional BA chappy with a pack would look better
But the current jump chappy they have is too good to pass up lol

The Dark Eldar Archon, definitely. Mostly because of that horrible face. He would look silly if he had a regular face, but with that stretched skin he looks hideous, and not in the good "look at me i've evil" way, more like the "If you don't look at me closely enough it looks like I am just a giant head attached to a 25mm base"

Sidstyler wrote:A NEW CHALLENGER HAS APPEARED!

Every time I see that model, I instantly break out laughing. I can't wait to see the first crappy 12-y-o paint job on that.

H.B.M.C. wrote:RAR!!!!

I laughed so hard at this...mostly because it looks better that way!

Here HBMC i turned its size into avatar and siggy ,

hope you use it or i will be sad :<

InyokaMadoda wrote:This really is just quick, easy, sloppy modelling.

And his foot....no, his FEET look backwards in that picture.

Iron_Chaos_Brute wrote:

Sidstyler wrote:A NEW CHALLENGER HAS APPEARED!

Every time I see that model, I instantly break out laughing. I can't wait to see the first crappy 12-y-o paint job on that.

H.B.M.C. wrote:RAR!!!!

I laughed so hard at this...mostly because it looks better that way!

Not that I'm a bad painter, but anything I put on that will make it look better. But the second pic can't get better. Pure Genious

Marine on epic mount: Good Idea
Silly face for the mount: Very bad idea
Space Wolf on Wolf: To many furry jokes so bad idea

H.B.M.C. wrote:RAR!!!!

I laughed so hard it still hurts.

It's definitely got a "DERP?" face on it.

Still, the rest of the model looks fine. It's just the eyes.

The entire Dark Elf range.
The entire Dark Eldar range except Vect.
Catachans.
Necron Immortals.
Chaos Marauders.
Ork Wartrak and Warbuggy.
Most of the LOTR range. The dwarves were kool though.
Lizardmen.
That Battle Sister Tank with a church organ on it. What were you thinking GW?
The new Ogryns.
Tau battlesuits - too inanimate.

My favourite models have to include:

The Ork range.
The Eldar are quite good - I still like the Wraithguard.
Space Wolves.
Guard are ok.

Man, every time I see that Space Wolves character, I crack up laughing. My first thought was "wouldn't a 7-8ft tall dude in Power Armour just break the wolf's back when he sat on it?" Then I realised how hilarious the wolf itself looks. Ridiculous model.

Dark Eldar without a doubt

I think we need to direct some canis hate onto something else

Mick Hucknall enters the world of 40k



There is one thing I like about this model, the claw. The chunky stance and completely un-space wolfy face, pretty bad imo

wow... just wow are they even trying anymore?

radiohazard wrote:The entire Dark Eldar range except Vect.

You, sir, are smoking something if you honestly think the Incubi are bad models.

Platuan4th wrote:

radiohazard wrote:The entire Dark Eldar range except Vect.

You, sir, are smoking something if you honestly think the Incubi are bad models.

He's obviously smoking something anyway as some of the Dark Elf Models (The new Cold One Knights and Black Ark Corsairs for example) are actually really good looking.

Actually, besides the monkey hand Dark Elf warriors, the entire line looks fantastic in my opinion.

Adash wrote:I think we need to direct some canis hate onto something else

Mick Hucknall enters the world of 40k



There is one thing I like about this model, the claw. The chunky stance and completely un-space wolfy face, pretty bad imo

Sorry this guy doesn't hold a candle to Canis. his only real sin IMO is the ridiculously sized claw. I mean that thing would have him walking around like he always needed a V8.

As for the face there are classic SW models with goofy hair.

The Giant Claw is awesome.

He's sayin' "You need a STRONG pimp hand!"

Wraithlordmechanic wrote:

Adash wrote:
As for the face there are classic SW models with goofy hair.

And we hated them too.