From the Bell:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/07/gw-40k-rumors-mystery-box.html

Think this is Space Hulk? My thought is a limited ed. of the Blood Bowl game for the Consoles that will include the Blood Bowl board game as well. Could just be talking out of my a$$ though........

I have a feeling I'm gonna be outside the local shop with a big stick at 6AM to find out.

FINALLY!! Trolls in the Pantry will be re-released!!

Oppp sorry mods didnt realize another thread was already started about this. Close or delete if you wish.

This is too stupid. I can't believe they'd doa limited run, no advanced order item with one production run. That makes no damn sense.

Then again, this is GW we're discussing. Hopefully it's Space Hulk!

GO SQUATS!

I think it is a sale.

That is something I have never seen GW do.

I think there's already a thread about this.

Bommas over Da Sulfa Riva!

The other thread has 6.67*10^23 posts (approx) so finding signal in the noise is hard. A new thread is warrented.

We all know in our hearts this is Space Hulk. It will ahve plastic corridors and may beom electronic do-dad which covers the whole 'never did this before' angle.

It will get a limited release to build hype and then go special order to maximise profits.

That would be kinda sweet if it was spacehulk... I would prefer a sale tho >.>

I think all the wargamers would have a heart attack if they saw a 20% off everything bonanza! at all the local GW's lol.

If it's Space Hulk and I miss out, I'm going to hurt someone at GW.

Sea of Chaos!

I'm not a fan of limited edition stuff.

I hope it will be available online because my nearest LGS doesn't have a good stock of GW items and the nearest GW Store is too far away to be worth it.

I seriously doubt it's Space Hulk.

The market for Space Hulk is larger than just those who play 40K.

People who don't play 40K or any tabletop miniature games want Space Hulk because it's a damn solid game. I can't recall the number of times i've seen fans of the 40k universe (who don't actually play 40k) bemoan about the fact Space Hulk is OOP. The boardgame audience wants Space Hulk too, it'd be a shame for them to miss out.

I predict this surprise will be entirely awesome or completely mediocre. No middle ground.

Lagduf wrote:

I predict this surprise will be entirely awesome or completely mediocre. No middle ground.

So the opposite of awesome is mediocre now?

Or is it just that GW cannot possibly produce something below that level?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Or is it just that GW cannot possibly produce something below that level?

Oh no. They can.

I think it's a monstrously stupid idea. For one thing, if it's Space Hulk, there would be long lasting demand for it, so a onetime splash is bad business sense.

Second, surely SH would require extensive plastic molds, so why not keep it in production longer to offset those costs?

Thirdly, by the time the first playtest reviews hit the net, it'll be too late for interested parties to buy the game, so customers would have to purchase the game blind.

So yeah, thanks but no thanks.

Considering the sheer stupidity of GW re-releasing Space Hulk this way, I cannot rule this out.

I'm interested in the 'it's something GW has never done before' line.

If this is true it rules out Space Hulk...

Chimera_Calvin wrote:I'm interested in the 'it's something GW has never done before' line.

If this is true it rules out Space Hulk...

Unless it's battery operated Space Hulk! Lights and automatic sliding doors!

yeah,
A GW Store CreditCard!

The bomb is dropped sounds pretty massive though!
I'd lovefor it to be SpaceHulk.

Panic...

If its a one shot release I'm surelly going to miss it... we dont have GW stores in Portugal and the closest official online store is GW spain that ussually puts (out of stock) on this kind of items.

Hope its not space hulk I would be extremelly pissed if it were

this is a pretty easy and effective way of getting customers and enthusiasts excited. It's not often a company will just keep you in the black until launch day.
In many cases the excitement can blow over, but with the sheer amount of rumors this is stirring up they could keep this going until the end of the year and still sell out on the day.

BoW- John

Maybe they are doing a collectable miniature game in honour of the 'King of Pop'?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Lagduf wrote:

I predict this surprise will be entirely awesome or completely mediocre. No middle ground.

So the opposite of awesome is mediocre now?

Or is it just that GW cannot possibly produce something below that level?

Eh, I just used the wrong word. That's what you get when you just start typing without really thinking about what you are writing.

I'm with the majority who believe it's Space Hulk. Then the "Drop a bomb" line makes me think a Thunderhawk. Either way, I'll probably buy 2...

'it's something GW has never done before'

On the Happy day it is sold-

[Buys a box at the local store, tears it open and... ]

SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE HAPPINESS HAPPINESS
Its a box with ALL the Codexs updated to the same edition!!!!!!!!!

Wow , thanks Game Workshops!!!!!!!!!!

[Looks closer...... ]

BAH, they are all First Edition!!!!!!!

Flagg07 wrote:I'm with the majority who believe it's Space Hulk. Then the "Drop a bomb" line makes me think a Thunderhawk. Either way, I'll probably buy 2...

...and sell them on ebay.

I'll probably miss the release of whatever it is and just log in to Dakka to find out what it was.

yeah,
But limited release is what seems strange, so it can't be something like the thunderhawk...

another LIMITED EDITION SKULZ ADEPTUS MECHANICUS SET!
that would be sweet!

Flagg07 wrote:I'm with the majority who believe it's Space Hulk. Then the "Drop a bomb" line makes me think a Thunderhawk. Either way, I'll probably buy 2...

Um guys we did ALL read the part about board game and not favoring any faction right?

Right?

I wouldn't panic about the limited release, usually that means limited time in shops, then on the website. Either that or the first release will have something, a special box, a collectible thingy, or whatever and then the normal version will come.

My reading comp is reviled...

Well they did say it was something they hadnt done before. so assuming this is true its not Space Hulk.

My guess is a 40K version of Talisman.

Or just simply a letter in a huge box from GW saying we have gone bust, hows that for a surprise

I think its Space Hulk.

with battery operated doodads, (never done before)
Limited release because Space Hulk would require all of their molds to be taken up just to produce the set, which is a huge investment in time, and reduces the number of other minis they can make. So they produce a set number of these board games, hopefully just barely sell out, (cutting cost on storage, and allowing them to sell at a higher price point through high demand and limited supply) then later on produce more when demand rises again.

*Yawn*

I'm old and have disposable income but little time. If you want me to camp out at my local GW to find out what it is I may or may not be interested in, you are going to be sorely disappointed.

Just tell me what it is, how much you want and if I like it you'll get a sale. Playing games will just piss me off.

All will be unveiled soon.

Or leaked.

You guys got to read between the lines "a bomb being dropped at the events". It's obviously a literal bomb meant to kill as many vet gamers as possible so they can revamp the whole 40k line into collectible pre-paints with as little complaint from the community as possible. It's quite brilliant actually enticing all the gamers to the store with the promise of a limited production run.

Or an actual boardgame, whatever.

Hmmm why do I feel Im going to be so disappointed

Might be a Jervis Johnson doll that will speak lies LIES!!

BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:Might be a Jervis Johnson doll that will speak lies LIES!!

"Just roll a D6, LOL!"

I cant wati!!

when will the mystry box be reviled?!!?!?!?!?!!?!?one!?

Or might be a giant Jervis Johnson Dice

"Roll a D6" will be the in built phrase

My bet is a new kind of Supplement or possibly a new army bundle of some sort heres hoping for a upgrade frame for something.

I also wouldnt rule out a new hobby aid of some sort if it is a hobby aid I am going to hang my head in so many degrees of saddness after all how many ways does one need to store his paintbrushes or store his mini's etc etc.

Half of the d6's sides say "I win", the other half say "You win".

Sidstyler wrote:Half of the d6's sides say "I win", the other half say "You win".

It's a sneak preview of 40k, 6th edition!

I don't think it's going to be Space Hulk, since it's apparently something we haven't heard of yet.

Part of me thinks there's been some miscommunication somewhere down the line, and it's not a boxed game at all. If that's the case, I'm guessing it's a rerelease of the RTB01 kit. They've never rereleased a plastic kit that's been out of production for almost 20 years.

Then again, that's just my far too wishful thinking. The idea of it being a 40k version of Talisman doesn't strike me as too strange though. Used to play that game when I was a kid.

Oh God In Heaven... all the people who believe word-for-word what is posted on BoLS. Especially since half of this is wrong... well, half of it is half wrong anyway. Reading all the dumb gak that's been posted all over the net since this "news" item went live makes me weep for the intelligence of Mankind.

Brother SRM wrote:Part of me thinks there's been some miscommunication somewhere down the line

You've got that right. All this stock put in the words of one hapless Warseer pleb who doesn't even know how to spell.

Could it be a re-release of Man'O'War...

even money says on Spacehulk...

or a starter box of Squats maybe?...

just a 70 dollar box of plastic pellets and a "how to mold" book...

BoLS is suffering in the info department. I couldn't help but flinch when they posted the blurb about the Angron conversion and seriously asked the question "is this the new plastic DP kit?" It was featured in the WD three or so months ago.

BrookM wrote:BoLS is suffering in the info department.

To be fair, this whole "Mystery Box" thing that I'm exasperated with isn't really BoLS's fault. They're just doing the reporting, but I just wish people would read more.

It is BFG the board game with the king of pop as deep space monster.

Her Majesty's Buxom Commissar wrote:

BrookM wrote:BoLS is suffering in the info department.

To be fair, this whole "Mystery Box" thing that I'm exasperated with isn't really BoLS's fault. They're just doing the reporting, but I just wish people would read more.

Its Games Workshop's fault if anybodys still fanning the rumours inferno I myself am going to wait and be blissfully ignorant.

I may try to pry some info next time Im down Workshop...I know what your thinking "good luck" but nobody ever got any prizes for not asking.

Although coming to think of it noone got any for asking either not in this cruel yet enjoyable game of toy soldiers.

Prepainted space marines.

Not a clue, but I be getting one!

Got to love having payday as every day!

Is there a particularly solid released date beyond the rather infirm 'august to september'?

Panic wrote:yeah,
But limited release is what seems strange, so it can't be something like the thunderhawk...

another LIMITED EDITION SKULZ ADEPTUS MECHANICUS SET!
that would be sweet!

I actually am going to be selling some of these. My brother had them. There's the lord with the cape, the servitor, and the tiny man with the book. Then there are 3 magi, but he has CONVERTED them all a little. Can you imagine a child dumb enough to molest these figures!?!? My brother WAS that child.

Brother SRM wrote:Part of me thinks there's been some miscommunication somewhere down the line, and it's not a boxed game at all. If that's the case, I'm guessing it's a rerelease of the RTB01 kit. They've never rereleased a plastic kit that's been out of production for almost 20 years.

See, that's something where this proposed system would make sense. Rereleasing that particular box as a onetime promotional gimmick would be great fun, and they could probably still use the same steel mold (I know companies in East Europe and Asia regularly use plastic models molds from the 60s and 70s, so the technology could probably take it).

Uh...didn't they do a similar thing with Talisman. They announced it would be a limited one time release, sold out, then a year later said they were going to do a limited second time release (which if I recall did not do so well heh). If this is space hulk they are just trying to build excitement just like they did Talisman but they are not announcing exactly what it is, which I think is kinda stupid. However it does have us all saying "wow wonder what GW does" rather than "dang GW sure does suck"....

So - HMBC - do you know what it is?

It's pre-painted starter sets with CLICKY BASES!!! Bwahahaha! The rebirth of MAGE KNIGHT!!! Yuck!

all the metal minis will now be sold as plastics

that doesn't sound too bad...

at least the would be cheaper...

i would like it

It is the UBER BOX .

All 40K and WHFB armies with maximum units in all possible combinations, and an extra 358 pounds worth of random bits. Retail is 10% OVER what this would normally cost.

Codices and Army Books separate, but at a 1% discount if you buy the UBER BOX .

Mattlov wrote:All 40K and WHFB armies with maximum units in all possible combinations, and an extra 358 pounds worth of random bits. Retail is 10% OVER what this would normally cost.

Codices and Army Books separate, but at a 1% discount if you buy the UBER BOX .

Mattlov that's insane and completely unrealistic. There's no way GW would offer a discount!!

Oh, I forgot to mention the 3% increase on package bundling for the codices/army books. Net 2% increase. That's it.

Seriously, could this be Space Hulk? So early, without any hints or leaked pics?

I'm staying tuned for sure.

Greets
Schepp himself

Its not Space Hulk remember its something completely new not ever done before and last time I checked GW has already done Space Hulk.

Maybe they're making the assumption that it's never been done before for the current generation of players.

I mean, as we all know, veteran gamers don't really exist. They're a myth like the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot and non-power-gamer Tournament Gamers.

It has to be Space Hulk, the Amsterdam store crew all shared slowed smiles and knowing looks when it was brought up.

It's a clever idea to get people talking about it.

I don't know why anyone would buy a mystery box except if they thought they could sell it for a profit on eBay.

Unless you are a huge GW fan, there's a majority chance the box will contain something you don't want.

Also, a lot of people want Space Hulk and it would be stupid to make it a limited edition.

Kilkrazy wrote:Also, a lot of people want Space Hulk and it would be stupid to make it a limited edition.

This. Unless they totally mess up with scales droves of people will want to buy SH. Making it a limited release is pure idiocy.

Whats the point in space hulk ive played 2 editions now and yea its okish im not a big fan.

If they did 3D plastic floor plans I may be sold but thats just pipe dreamin.

Kilkrazy wrote:
I don't know why anyone would buy a mystery box except if they thought they could sell it for a profit on eBay.

If you remember when they had the earthquake and they sold all the bitz by the
bulk in order to start over, people ordered sacks and sacks of the stuff not knowing
what they would get.

BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:Whats the point in space hulk ive played 2 editions now and yea its okish im not a big fan.

Just goes to show the enduring atmosphere and imagery of Aliens. Deep down inside,
everyone wants to be Ripley, Hudson, or Hicks.

Heh Yea but thats Aliens...we're talking a rehash of Space Hulk of which id feel pretty short changed by as this whole thing claims to be something never done before.

malfred wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:
I don't know why anyone would buy a mystery box except if they thought they could sell it for a profit on eBay.

If you remember when they had the earthquake and they sold all the bitz by the
bulk in order to start over, people ordered sacks and sacks of the stuff not knowing
what they would get.

.

I don't remember that, however people would have known they were getting bitz. Any keen modeller can find uses for bitz.

In this case we are being told it is a mystery boardgame which doesn't belong to any existing faction.

If it's a WHFB I'm not interested, so there's a 50% chance I won't want what's in the box.

Could this be Chaos in the Old World?

malfred wrote:

Just goes to show the enduring atmosphere and imagery of Aliens. Deep down inside,
everyone wants to be Ripley, Hudson, or Hicks.

I wanted to be the fragile yet endearing member of the group. Mostly.

Kilkrazy wrote:

malfred wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:
I don't know why anyone would buy a mystery box except if they thought they could sell it for a profit on eBay.

If you remember when they had the earthquake and they sold all the bitz by the
bulk in order to start over, people ordered sacks and sacks of the stuff not knowing
what they would get.

.

I don't remember that, however people would have known they were getting bitz. Any keen modeller can find uses for bitz.

In this case we are being told it is a mystery boardgame which doesn't belong to any existing faction.

If it's a WHFB I'm not interested, so there's a 50% chance I won't want what's in the box.

It was ALL their bitz.

Warmaster, Fantasy, anything that was in the catalog.

I seem to recall people logging in to complain that they got Warmaster.

AgeofEgos: You need a cutesy nickname to go with that picture. Let's go with maggot.

Maybe its a Jervis Johnson Miniature standing aloft on heaps of loyal hobbist bodies with two nudie witch elves dancing around with blood covered daggers in front of a emmense resin altar of Khaine.

So far, I'd have to lean toward this being marketing genius (okay, not genius, but reasonably smart) based on how some gamers are twisting themselves into knots trying to ascertain the identity of something that's so obviously Space Hulk.

Seriously, what would the interest level be if they just came out and announced a SH re-release? This mystery box thing has even those who'd otherwise be lukewarm or apathetic about SH at least a little curious.

IMO, the limited release rumor is something that's being dropped in order to create even more of a feeding frenzy for the thing. That's just a simple scarcity tactic. It might be true that it's a limited first run. But if it's worth their while, they'll do another run.

Space Hulk silly idea....they've had two releases already of Space Hulk I would have credited them with some genius not to go and rehash a old title.

Unless they did it with 3D floorplans and various add ons and the such then really I couldnt care two hoots this is one hobbist who wont be queueing up from 7am to get his hands on something he's owned twice before.

But thats just me.

Maybe it's a small bottle of Jes Goodwin sperm. That way we can create a loyal army of sculpting gods and create all the models we want. That would be awesome.

Sucks to be limited though, but Jes not Sly Marbo so I understand that he cannot supply us 24/7.

Greets
Schepp himself

bols wrote:So the plot thickens folks. In a highly unusual marketing move, word is starting to dribble out of GW of a totally secret product that will be unveiled in stores in August. It is described as something totally new and unheard of, that will be a limited run. The current rumors swirling about are:

-Product announcement on 15-16th August, with a ship date in September.

-August/september they are selling a box set for around £50. (@$70 USD)

-It is a completely stand alone set that is not related to any race.

-It is something that GW has never done before.

-Some local stores are only getting one shipment; when that sells out it will no longer be available.

-You can't advance order it. You have to be there on the day to get it.

-It is not Planetary Empires.

-It is a board game.

-Very limited GW people know what it is. Blueshirts have indicated what they know and the Blackshirts avoid questions.

-Likely to be 40K related, but not definitely confirmed

Remember the BoLS article shared RUMORS about the mystery box. None of those "guidelines" are, or should be, considered entirely trustworthy. You could remove one or two of the guidelines and Space Hulk is perfectly reasonable.

The only other ideas I had (regarding the box) is that it is an Imperial Citizen's Game (40k Talisman), an Ordo Xenos Monster Hunter Adventure game, or a 40k version of Warhammer Quest.

Holy crap what if it is Warhammer 40k Quest? Electronic Portcullises (sp), light up gantry ways, etc...

What about a boardgame based on the Horus Heresy?

malfred wrote:

If you remember when they had the earthquake and they sold all the bitz by the
bulk in order to start over, people ordered sacks and sacks of the stuff not knowing
what they would get.

.

We got 5 pounds of Warmaster Skeletons.

Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Or still scowl at the memory.




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BOSS_PIMPALOTZ wrote:Space Hulk silly idea....they've had two releases already of Space Hulk I would have credited them with some genius not to go and rehash a old title.

Welcome to the Games Workshop Hobby!

They're still rehashing special characters from Rogue Trader.

Right. I have a suspicion as to what it is....

£20 says it's a Special Edition of Space Hulk with 3D Corridors being splash released ahead of a 2D Corridor set.

Regardless, I'm bagging two if I can! And panic not Dakka, seeing as I'm an all round nice guy, if it's half decent, I'd be happy to flog one on at cost plus P&P. Unless it's 3D Space Hulk in which case I'll keep both and you lot can get knotted

What if it is a Sprue Sale? Maybe you get $140+ of random sprues. Something for everybody. True it's not a board game, but it is something they have never done before, would justify the 'limited edition' statis, and would explain why it is being shipped in limited quantities.

My money is still on Space Hulk though.

But its supposed to be "SOMETHING NEVER DONE BEFORE" its a screaming contridiction to think its Space Hulk.

"SOMETHING NEVER DONE BEFORE" leaves a lot of room for interpretation. They (whoever they are) could mean that one aspect has never been done before, or that every aspect has never been done before. By even suggesting "SOMETHING NEVER DONE BEFORE" they are being misleading. If it involves rolling dice, well that has been done before, if it involves miniatures, that has been done before, if it involves the 40k universe, OMG it has been done before.

I think we are taking the "SOMETHING NEVER DONE BEFORE" a little too literally. That is why I think it is a rehash of an older game like Space Hulk. Just new and improved with fancy new things that have never been tried before in a miniatures game before (electronic doors, lights, etc...).

The price is probably somewhat high for the cost of the production pieces. $70 leaves a lot of room for the imagination. If it is a boardgame then you can do a lot with a $70 price tag. Look at Descent, Talisman, or any of the original prices for the Specialty Game Range.

It is the first wave releases of WHFB Apocalypse.

Or perhaps they licensed the "Settlers of Catan" line and we will get "Settlers of Cadia" which is all Chaos invasion and killing instead of trade and building.

Actually, that might be fun...

Oh arr.

Spoke to my local 'Shirt today about it. He has absolutely no idea what it is, but they find out August 17th when it comes up for preorder.

He reckons it's some kind of Boardgame, given the price.

Two things I've heard from a fairly reliable source- 54mm and Ork...
Mick

I'm getting two even moar!

54mm is the scale of Inquisitor.

BrookM wrote:54mm is the scale of Inquisitor.

It's an Inquisitor scale Grot.

Could be a revival of one of their ancient board games with large scale miniatures that they used to sell in blisters. A bit farfetched though.

For those of you thinking you are going to be popping into your store for a 'mystery box' - it's ANNOUNCED in August for SALE in September.

If they announcing it as a Mystery box then GW has officially gone bonkers. They would have finally stooped to the depths of shock value.

Its probably the resin indomitable fortress, either way though once the sucker is popped open or leaked that will either make you want it or not.

Personally I dont really give a crap because Canada wont see it since when anything like this comes by we get the yanks leftovers.

Mick A wrote:Two things I've heard from a fairly reliable source- 54mm and Ork...

Orkquisitor ???

GorkaMorka in 54mm??

The mind boggles.

54mm and Ork?

Count me out. I don't want a game that isn't compatible with 40K (ie. not on the same scale).

And I have to say that I side with Yahtzee when it comes to hype like this - it's more likely to make me suspicious than excited.

BrookM wrote:It has to be Space Hulk, the Amsterdam store crew all shared slowed smiles and knowing looks when it was brought up.

Being in Amsterdam, I'm sure that there's other reasons why they could all be sharing that particular look...

Alpharius wrote:

BrookM wrote:It has to be Space Hulk, the Amsterdam store crew all shared slowed smiles and knowing looks when it was brought up.

Being in Amsterdam, I'm sure that there's other reasons why they could all be sharing that particular look...

Well, the Red Light district is several blocks away and the staff has a strict policy of only hiring non-smoking straight laces, so they've got be struck by the slow.

It is a Games Workshop store Brook. I don't think any of them were ever 'struck' by the slow. It came along with them.

BrookM wrote:

Alpharius wrote:

BrookM wrote:It has to be Space Hulk, the Amsterdam store crew all shared slowed smiles and knowing looks when it was brought up.

Being in Amsterdam, I'm sure that there's other reasons why they could all be sharing that particular look...

Well, the Red Light district is several blocks away and the staff has a strict policy of only hiring non-smoking straight laces, so they've got be struck by the slow.

H.B.M.C wrote:It is a Games Workshop store Brook. I don't think any of them were ever 'struck' by the slow. It came along with them.

There's a high chance youalready know this but you guys are awesome.

Greets
Schepp himself

Ravenous D wrote:If they announcing it as a Mystery box then GW has officially gone bonkers. They would have finally stooped to the depths of shock value.

Its probably the resin indomitable fortress, either way though once the sucker is popped open or leaked that will either make you want it or not.

Personally I dont really give a crap because Canada wont see it since when anything like this comes by we get the yanks leftovers.

Funny you should mention that! Sought a little clarification from my local Manager today. Now, pinch of salt on hand for this as ever, though kudos to Ramon for being the first to confess this is only what he's been told, and may not be accurate at all!

It is up for pre-order as of the 17th of August, when all will be revealed. So until we can order it, it's a mystery. As soon as it hits the Website, we'll know what we are ordering.

Personally, I suspect we might be seeing a splash re-release of Warhammer Quest. No real reason for this like!

Maybe it's an Imperial Guard deserter kit.

Depending on how you read those clues, it could be Space Hulk. Really hoping it's not something inquisitor scale, even if it is orks.

I'm thinking that Mad Doc has the right of it - the 3D terrain for space hulk will be limited to this first wave, then whatever after will be cardstock terrain.

If it's some crazy stand-along board game, then I'm down for that too.

Christ I should just start selling black boxes on Ebay that say GW mystery box and see how many suckers I can get.

People used to do that with Yugioh cards. "When someone wins this acution, I'll roll a 6 sided die. If it comes up 5 or 6, I'l send the super awesome mega thing everyone wants, if it's 3 or 4 I'll send the second most awesome thing everyone wants, and if it's 1 or 2, I'll send 10 super rare cards!" Of course anyone bidding found it to always be 10 of the crappiest super rares available. It's probably a GW version of Chainmail. Why? Because noone asked for it.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:It is up for pre-order as of the 17th of August, when all will be reviled.

FYT

You are swan to secrecy!

Maybe it's a LE of Space Hulk with models for Space Corridors and Industrial Towers? To compete with that other company that makes them?

I doubt it is a new game or such since FFG seems to be doing those.

I'm guessing a 54mm ork trophy of somesort. Like those goofy vinyl marines from some years ago.

IIRC, FFG have the license for non-miniature based games. GW retained the rights to the ones where the Mini's are an integral part of the game?

yeah,
Replica weapons...? which would bore me...
Limited Ed. Clothing?

Something like DarkFuture, but set inside the 40k universe?

'The bomb is dropped' kinda still means it's something we will want....
SpaceHulk is the only option, or am I blind to other ideas by my want!

Panic...

Everyone knows that it's going to be a set of microscope slides...

with pieces of Jervis' head on it....



(A guy can dream, can't he?)

yeah,
'The bomb is dropped' a realm of battle board tile that's one big crater...

Panic...

Actually its grab bags full of items nobody has wanted for years or have been sitting in the bitz boxes and they cant get rid of. They have never done it before, its not race specific, and it will be filled with old Inquisitor stuff, WFB, 40K necrumunda, etc... Hurry and get your before they are gone!!!!

Inquisitor and Necromunda stuff I can dig, if it's piles of unsold DE on the other hand..

I'm telling yeah, it's going to be Warhammer 40k Quest and it is going to be frick-en SWEET!

Doesn't Talisman use minis? Would Space Hulk be a mini game or a board game? Hard to tell.

Talisman uses minis, but it's not integral to the game such as BB or SH. Black Industrie's version came with cardboard cutouts so they weren't too interested in pushing the hobby aspect.

GrimTeef wrote:I'm thinking that Mad Doc has the right of it - the 3D terrain for space hulk will be limited to this first wave, then whatever after will be cardstock terrain.

Well, that would make absolutely no sense at all. Seems worth a try...

His Master's Voice wrote:

GrimTeef wrote:I'm thinking that Mad Doc has the right of it - the 3D terrain for space hulk will be limited to this first wave, then whatever after will be cardstock terrain.

Well, that would make absolutely no sense at all. Seems worth a try...

Generally expansions see a drop-off from the original product. If SH sells 100,000, SH Expansion 1 would be doing great to sell 90,000, likely to only sell 50,000... There's people that buy it, play it once, and never look at it again, people that love it but just can't afford a copy, extra sets bought if the bits are useful for 40k, etc.

Justifying molds might be difficult. (Although I think if they can make the molds dual-purpose for Space Hulk and CoD/Planetstrike it'd be a win-win.

Plastic molds have to run some mileage as far as I understood it. So why run a limited number on them?

Greets
Schepp himself

yeah,
That's a good point and probabily rules out space hulk...
unless their going to release resin minitures...

PAnic...

Panic wrote:yeah,
'The bomb is dropped' a realm of battle board tile that's one big crater...

Isn't the RoB board a giant pit already?

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Panic wrote:yeah,
'The bomb is dropped' a realm of battle board tile that's one big crater...

Isn't the RoB board a giant pit already?

Kind of a valley.

Personally, the notion that it is "OMG LIMITED EDITION!!!1" would lead me to rule out anything plastic.

Plastic molds are so damned expensive, if GW were to invest in one they'd be sure as hell planning to use it until it can't be used anymore.

If they were going to invest in a set of molds to make 3D Space Hulk corridors, you can be damn sure that it wouldn't be limited edition.

The RoB crater tile is actually a pretty good guess!!

Thinking of this via GW logic, the invest a lot of money in plastic terrain boards that end up not selling due to the price so how do you get rid of them (without making a big loss)?

Answer- let all the GW fanatics know there is something going to be released that is so hush, hush no one is allowed to say what it is and its going to be very limited edition. If you want one you have to pre-order it in August for a Sept release. People pre-order not knowing what it is but not caring as its going to be fantastic what ever it is and its a very limited run.

What you get is a limited edition 2'x2' terrain board that if you want to use you need to fork out for the set they cant shift. No good trying to sell it on e-bay or anything as only people who have bought the original set would want one so its a very limited market, plus they probably have it already as they pre-ordered it anyway...

GW's problem solved, they get rid of the terrain sets they couldnt shift before and made a packet from all of us gullible fanatics...

Mick

Mick A wrote:If you want one you have to pre-order it in August for a Sept release. People pre-order not knowing what it is but not caring as its going to be fantastic what ever it is and its a very limited run.

Of course you won't be pre-ordering without knowing what it is. What a stupid idea.

Actually, the Realm of Battle has been selling quite well from what I've been told and what I've read.

Oh arr, and it seems this may not be as big as people are making out. Local Manager isn't long back from a meeting at Lenton, where they were all informed that the leaks in the Studio had been plugged up, and as from that day, everyone, employees included, will only find out about products when they go up for Pre-order.

And Mick A, earlier I did confirm that when it's up for Pre-Order, we will know what it is. Double and even treble checked with my local Manager about that one!

Eh, people are slow on the whole catching up and using some common sense when it comes to wild rumours.

Fishboy wrote:Actually its grab bags full of items nobody has wanted for years or have been sitting in the bitz boxes and they cant get rid of. They have never done it before, its not race specific, and it will be filled with old Inquisitor stuff, WFB, 40K necrumunda, etc... Hurry and get your before they are gone!!!!

They did the grab bag thing before. People got warmaster stuff in those bags as well as the rest.

yep I also think the realm of battle is doing ok too.. I just ordered one Also when I was emailing gw about the planetstrike sets I asked if the ones with boards were different than the realm of battle and the guy said no it's the same board, but they have been hearing that new squares will be released eventually but he didn't have any more info than that. I don't think they'd be planning to expand it if it wasn't selling. I just wish they'd sell the squares separately now, I bet a lot would get them to expand the board they have or even just to buy 1 piece to use as a tourney display board

Ultraprime- read the last sentence of my post, you'll see I include myself...
The boards might be selling but not as well as they expected through the pre-release interest and pre-orders before the last minute price hike. Two guys from the local club and myself were going to get them at the original price but none of us did once the price went up...
Mick

If it is a giant crater, I'm going to be pissed and probably just try to fill it up with...

I've got it. Space Marine bobble heads in 28mm scale. Other races to follow - except DE as no shelf room in the stores for them.

Geraldo Rivera will reveal it to be...an empty vault.

I just found out, the box doesn't have any models in it, it's a small box that just has a dvd in it and the dvd as a trailer for the new 40k movie based on the Eisenhorn trilogy. Stars Russel Crowe as eisenhorn, megan fox as Bequin, robin williams as maxilla and Ashton Kutcher as cherubael.

Maybe it's a boat.

malfred wrote:Geraldo Rivera will reveal it to be...an empty vault.

But not before hyping the gak out of it and firing a lasgun at paper targets.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Oh arr, and it seems this may not be as big as people are making out. Local Manager isn't long back from a meeting at Lenton, where they were all informed that the leaks in the Studio had been plugged up, and as from that day, everyone, employees included, will only find out about products when they go up for Pre-order.

Wow, that just sucks monkey nether regions. A shame really, buzz helps. Keeping things under wraps just means I can not care longer.


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malfred wrote:

They did the grab bag thing before. People got warmaster stuff in those bags as well as the rest.

Yeah I would never buy another grab bag worth of stuff after a crap load of warmaster....

The Amsterdam store had grab bags of old stuff they no longer needed. You'd basically pay $25 for a bunch of cannibalized sprues with the best stuff cut out.




Though this makes me wonder what the August WD issue will preview.

I wouldn't of minded a Warmaster grab bag as long as it had enough to do an army...
Mick

BrookM wrote:The Amsterdam store had grab bags of old stuff they no longer needed. You'd basically pay $25 for a bunch of cannibalized sprues with the best stuff cut out.

Oh, that would be hysterical.

No, honestly, I don't really care about the "mystery box". Personally I find it insulting that GW insists on playing games like this and treating me like an idiot.

If they can't be arsed to tell me about their products, then I can't be arsed to waste the money on them.

yeah,
But you will buy them when released...
we all will.

Not knowing every release that's coming is kinda exciting.

PAnic...

Don't discount anything in plastic jsut becuase they are mentioning limited run.

For example: they could do a limited "run" in the tranparent green plastic, and then repackage it with the unlimited run being in regular grey plastic.

They could sell Space Hulk with a nifty limited plastic storage case, and them turn out a million regular space hulks in card board boxes.

"Limited Runs" are usually just a marketing ploy to build up consumer interest.

Dal'yth Dude wrote:Doesn't Talisman use minis? Would Space Hulk be a mini game or a board game? Hard to tell.

The current version of Talisman does not come with miniatures. Talisman comes with cardboard stand-up tokens to represent the characters. FFG addressed this issue by saying that minis are not what they do and that they were leaving it to players to use whatever brilliant GW miniatures they wanted in place of the card tokens as desired.

So I am just going to put it out there and gamble. I place all my bets that the limited release is the Dark Angels building in Planetstrike. The indomitable fortress I believe its called. So that is again another conspiracy theory of mine.

BrassScorpion wrote:

Dal'yth Dude wrote:Doesn't Talisman use minis? Would Space Hulk be a mini game or a board game? Hard to tell.

The current version of Talisman does not come with miniatures. Talisman comes with cardboard stand-up tokens to represent the characters. FFG addressed this issue by saying that minis are not what they do and that they were leaving it to players to use whatever brilliant GW miniatures they wanted in place of the card tokens as desired.

The new updated one comes with minis and there was a upgrade pack for them who bought the first one without them.

[quote=wraith[cs]]Maybe it's a boat.

It could be SH with 3D terrain if GW ordered it from the same factory that made the blastscape...

VoidLord wrote:So I am just going to put it out there and gamble. I place all my bets that the limited release is the Dark Angels building in Planetstrike. The indomitable fortress I believe its called. So that is again another conspiracy theory of mine.

QFT.

I really hope it is, as I aim to have the most bitching collection of Planetstrike terrain!

And on the matter of Splash Releases....there are splash releases, and then there are Splash Releases.

One good example would be the Exorcist. A splash release in stores but still very much available online.

So it could be following that model, where there are a few of whatever it turns out to be shipped out to stores for release day, and after that it will only be available from Direct Sales.

OR, it could be one of the things they tend to do limited runs on, and only really sell at Chrimbo, ala the Rules Cases, the Basing Kits etc.

My money is probably on the latter, for what it's worth.

The new updated one comes with minis and there was a upgrade pack for them who bought the first one without them.

I hadn't heard this news before, thanks. However, I'm quite annoyed at the idea that I just bought this expensive game about a year ago and when it didn't sell as well as expected, FFG upgraded the components and now I'm supposed to spend more money to bring it up to the quality it should have had in the first place. Grrr.

Ifirk it comes with all the chars and 4 toads.