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Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 02:48:32


Post by: garret


Well what is it?
1: star war 1-6.
2: stay alive. watch it its kinda good.
some of the classic disney movies.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 02:54:47


Post by: Cheese Elemental


Good question... I'm not sure.

Space Balls and Kung Pow are fairly high on the list, but my favourite film would probably be the Life of Brian.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 03:08:09


Post by: greenskin lynn


hmmmm.

Tremors
Blues Brothers
Transformers the movie(the cartoon)
The Hobbit

those stand out best, at the moment, as movies i'm pretty much always willing to watch


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 03:49:00


Post by: warpcrafter


Lord of the Rings (It's one 12+ hr movie, people!)
South Park, Bigger, Longer and Uncut
Armageddon
The Shining


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 04:00:50


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Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 04:09:30


Post by: djphranq


Cheese Elemental wrote:Good question... I'm not sure.

Space Balls and Kung Pow are fairly high on the list, but my favourite film would probably be the Life of Brian.


Oooo neato choices... especially Life of Brian... loved that one...

I'd say mine is Brazil


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 04:11:14


Post by: Cheese Elemental


My friend finds it ironic that I enjoy Life of Brian when I'm Christian. I don't really see that though, because it isn't insulting anyone.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 04:15:24


Post by: djphranq


Cheese Elemental wrote:My friend finds it ironic that I enjoy Life of Brian when I'm Christian. I don't really see that though, because it isn't insulting anyone.


The jokes seem funnier when you're Christian... I'm Catholic and 'Dogma' is a hoot...


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greenskin lynn wrote:hmmmm.

Tremors
Blues Brothers
Transformers the movie(the cartoon)
The Hobbit

those stand out best, at the moment, as movies i'm pretty much always willing to watch


Awesome choices! Have you seen Tremors 2?


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 04:27:59


Post by: Cheese Elemental


I watched Tremors 4 recently. That was really strange, and the worm things looked really badly animated.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 04:31:12


Post by: Mattlov


Grosse Pointe Blank is my favorite movie of all time. Kingdom of Heaven is up there as well, but that movie is made awesome by the soundtrack.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 04:48:31


Post by: greenskin lynn


i've seen the 4 tremor movies, and a decent number of episodes of the tv show scifi had


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 04:56:01


Post by: BloodofOrks


The Shining
Yojimbo
Pan's Labyrinth
There Will be Blood
Blade Runner


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 04:58:11


Post by: deadratman


Iron Man
Transformers(acting)
Harry Potter and The Goblet of Fire
Harry Potter and The Order of The Phoenix
LOTR:Return of The King


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 05:06:54


Post by: djphranq


BloodofOrks wrote:The Shining
Yojimbo
Pan's Labyrinth
There Will be Blood

Blade Runner


Which one have you seen? The original? I've watched only bits and pieces of the original and the remake but it looks like something I want to check out.

Both great movies. Have you seen some of Akira Kurosawa's other stuff? I like Stray Dog.

These two I still have yet to see but definitely want to check out.


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greenskin lynn wrote:i've seen the 4 tremor movies, and a decent number of episodes of the tv show scifi had


I totally forgot about the TV show... *runs off to youTube it*


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 05:17:58


Post by: BloodofOrks


The original Shining. The Kubrick one. Their is no other as far as I'm concerned. There Will be Blood is highly recommended. I went through a phase a few months ago where I watched it about four times a week.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 05:18:49


Post by: sebster


Can't ever pick just one favourite movie.


Heat
Miller's Crossing
The Big Lebowski
No Country for Old Men
Ghost World
American Splendor
Fight Club
Office Space
The Killer
The Thin Red Line


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 05:19:33


Post by: BloodofOrks


Oh yes, and Fargo. I love Fargo.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 05:26:37


Post by: GoFenris


Dawn of the Dead (Romero)

and

The Seven Samurai - This may seem stereotypical but every time I see it I remember why I love it so much.

Honorable mention:

American Splendor
Shaun of the Dead
The Shawshank Redemption
An American Werewolf in London
Wallace & Grommit The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (This movie never disappoints to make me happy!)


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 05:32:45


Post by: Wrexasaur


djphranq wrote:
Cheese Elemental wrote:Good question... I'm not sure.

Space Balls and Kung Pow are fairly high on the list, but my favourite film would probably be the Life of Brian.


Oooo neato choices... especially Life of Brian... loved that one...

I'd say mine is Brazil


I agree... except for me this is a joke question full of twists and turns, roughly equaling two pages of font 12.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 05:36:42


Post by: Cheese Elemental


GoFenris wrote: Were-Rabbit (This movie never disappoints to make me happy!)

I wholeheartedly agree! An excellent bit of work from the blokes at Aardman. I liked how they put in all that suggestive language, that really made it more appealing to older viewers IMO, and it was quite refreshing from an otherwise sparkling-clean franchise.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 05:40:03


Post by: djphranq


BloodofOrks wrote:The original Shining. The Kubrick one. Their is no other as far as I'm concerned. There Will be Blood is highly recommended. I went through a phase a few months ago where I watched it about four times a week.


Lol... ever since DVDs I haven't been able to do that for some reason. When I was going to high school and would borrow VHS's from the library I could watch the living spit out of Brazil, Lawrence of Arabia, Predator, Predator 2, and the Star Wars Original Trilogy... Sergio Leone's movies helped me with my Electronics projects during college... now a days though I now just do single viewings... even of my Star Wars DVDs.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 05:41:16


Post by: Wrexasaur


After a bit of thinking, I do have favorite directors (more or less)

Peter Jackson WINS THE GOLD!!! WOOOT!


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 06:07:13


Post by: greenskin lynn


ghost dog- way of the samurai- not sure why, but i rather enjoy the movie


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 06:21:52


Post by: BloodofOrks


djphranq wrote:
BloodofOrks wrote:The original Shining. The Kubrick one. Their is no other as far as I'm concerned. There Will be Blood is highly recommended. I went through a phase a few months ago where I watched it about four times a week.


Lol... ever since DVDs I haven't been able to do that for some reason. When I was going to high school and would borrow VHS's from the library I could watch the living spit out of Brazil, Lawrence of Arabia, Predator, Predator 2, and the Star Wars Original Trilogy... Sergio Leone's movies helped me with my Electronics projects during college... now a days though I now just do single viewings... even of my Star Wars DVDs.


What can I say? I like sensory overload. I listen to super intense music, like unbelievably spicy food; anything that's too intense for most people draws me like a magnet. There Will be Blood keeps me on the edge of my seat if nothing else. Also, it's unfair to other actors that Daniel Day Lewis exists.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 06:30:51


Post by: Manchu


BloodofOrks already mentioned Yojimbo. So I'm not totally convinced that when I say "Hidden Fortress" no one will know what that is. But as for the movies that have had the biggest effect on me: A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi. That's jess how it is.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 08:57:03


Post by: Wrexasaur


Manchu wrote:BloodofOrks already mentioned Yojimbo. So I'm not totally convinced that when I say "Hidden Fortress" no one will know what that is. But as for the movies that have had the biggest effect on me: A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi. That's jess how it is.


KUROSAWAS RAN!!!

BIG, BLOODY RARE, AND RED AS HELL!!!

HELL I TELL YOU!!!


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 08:59:44


Post by: Manchu


Have you seen Kagemusha? I liked that one better than Ran.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 09:02:04


Post by: Wrexasaur


I have seen all of Kurosawas work and by far the ones that stand out for me are:

RAN


-and-

7 Samurai

All others simply fail to stick in my mind.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 09:18:43


Post by: BrookM


Unforgiven and the Wild Bunch as two of the best de-constructive westerns ever in my opinion.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 09:32:44


Post by: MeanGreenStompa


Jaws - the latter part of the film (3 men in a boat) is amazing, Quint remembering the Indianapolis makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

Mixed bag vying for second place:
Bladerunner, Strange Days, Aliens and Ghostbusters.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 10:06:35


Post by: sebster


BrookM wrote:Unforgiven and the Wild Bunch as two of the best de-constructive westerns ever in my opinion.


Ooh, good ones. I'm adding Unforgiven to my list above.

That said, I'd say Unforgiven it isn't a deconstruction (the theme that to protect itself from barbarians civilisation must turn to its own barbarians isn't really deconstructionist, its basically the premise of every great Western).

I have no idea if the same applies to The Wild Bunch, I've never really analysed it. It's just too much damn fun and I think it might be ruined a little by thinking about what its about.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 10:42:10


Post by: BrookM


The Wild Bunch is about the death of the Wild West. The introduction of the auto mobile, a machine gun mowing down hordes of soldiers, William Holden using an automatic pistol instead of a revolver for most of the movie, old men unable to do anything else, even though time has marched on not needing them any more.

As for Unforgiven, next to having stellar performances from Clint, Morgan and Gene, it's oddly about standing up for those with no rights (whores), that old habits don't die and that there are no real good guys. I especially liked the scene by the camp fire where William coldly said "We're just two guys, nothing more" and he said it with such a lack of conviction. Simply stellar.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 12:46:19


Post by: Frazzled


I'm a bit of a movie nut so I have about 5000 but here's some off the top of my head

*Alien
*Star Wars
*Tora Tora Tora
*Long Riders
*LOTR (all three but two towers best)
*Caddyshack/Stripes/Meatballs
*Terminator II
*Saving Private Ryan / Schindler's List (I view them as Spielberg's Ode to WWII)
*The Thing (one and only original black and white)
*Creature from the Black Lagoon
*True Grit/Rooster Cogburn
*Glory
*Seven
*Platoon
*History of the World, Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein



Ran, 7 samurai etc, Unforgiven, are all excellent.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 12:51:27


Post by: Ridcully


Reservoir Dogs is usually the first one that comes to mind, so i'll stick with that.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 14:39:19


Post by: GoFenris


Manchu wrote:Have you seen Kagemusha? I liked that one better than Ran.


Wrexasaur wrote:I have seen all of Kurosawas work and by far the ones that stand out for me are:

RAN


-and-

7 Samurai

All others simply fail to stick in my mind.


I actually didn't care for Kagemusha that much. Ran is fantastic, better than its source material I think! The Bad Sleep Well I also like very much but you have to stick with it because it is the final scene that makes that film. Stray Dog, a Japanese Film Noir classic and an interesting view of post WWII (right after) Japan. Yojimbo as well, of course. You know, I have yet to see Sanjuro, is it worth it? Hidden Fortress is good but to me it isn't nearly as good as so many of his others. Throne of Blood is good just for the arrow stunts near the end and I saw it quite young so the moving forest freaked me out at first.

Seven Samurai I also saw quite young and it stuck before I ever realized its cinematic significance. If anyone cares, the newer (1-2 years old, I think) DVD release in the black box from Criterion Collection is really worth it. I was skeptical how much they could 'digitally restore' such an old film but I was quite shocked at the improvement over the older DVD. Totally worth it!

You know, I see a few people pick Lord of the Rings. I really think they are marginal at best (I can't be the only one), except possibly The Two Towers, that one stands out. I enjoy them but I think Jackson's earlier stuff is much better and I think his style lends itself much more to comedy horror. For me, Dead Alive is the pinnacle of Peter Jackson.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 15:10:23


Post by: barlio


Top 5 (in no particular order):
*Fight Club
*Dumb & Dumber
*Empire Strikes Back
*Unforgiven
*Pulp Fiction

These are the 5 movies that I think at any point (regarding the situation) I could sit down and watch. Now you have to understand that I have this thing about watching movies. I am very particular because my mind is bear-trap when it comes to unimportant things. If I've seen a movie in the last 6 months to a year I probably won't want to see it again for a while. I just remember lines and the plot so well that I feel it's a waste of time to rewatch it. For me to be willing to view a movie at any point means that they have left an impression on me (not always a good thing).


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 15:12:36


Post by: Roze


True Romance.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 18:37:45


Post by: firebat


Aliens
Alien
Black Hawk Down
Lucky Number Slevin
Wall-e
Dark Knight



Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 20:08:52


Post by: Manchu


GoFenris wrote:I actually didn't care for Kagemusha that much. Ran is fantastic, better than its source material I think! The Bad Sleep Well I also like very much but you have to stick with it because it is the final scene that makes that film. Stray Dog, a Japanese Film Noir classic and an interesting view of post WWII (right after) Japan. Yojimbo as well, of course. You know, I have yet to see Sanjuro, is it worth it? Hidden Fortress is good but to me it isn't nearly as good as so many of his others. Throne of Blood is good just for the arrow stunts near the end and I saw it quite young so the moving forest freaked me out at first.

Seven Samurai is undoubtedly a great film. So is Ran. I like both of them very much. The reason that I like Kurosawa so much is that he is a very sincere humanist. The reason that Hidden Fortress strikes me as so good is because it treats its characters with love and dignity. I like Kagemusha for the same reason. That's a weird thing to say, I know, but maybe it's worth thinking about. Red Beard and Ikiru are great examples of this, too, as is High and Low. Well, I'm not going to write a lecture on Kurosawa here but I would strongly recommend watching these films (or re-watching them, Wrex). And Sanjuro is at least as good as Yojimbo if you like Yojimbo for the right reasons.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 20:16:40


Post by: BrookM


Kurosawa's Ikiru was a strong movie, a completely different direction from his other, best known movies.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 20:19:22


Post by: Manchu


BrookM wrote:Kurosawa's Ikiru was a strong movie, a completely different direction from his other, best known movies.

I always thought of it as paired with Red Beard. Ikiru poses the questions: "How should we treat our fellow human beings?" and Red Beard answers "Like this and for the reason that they are our fellows."


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 20:20:15


Post by: rubiksnoob


Monty python and the holy grail. Followed by Napoleon Dynamite.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 20:30:03


Post by: Axyl


Wow, many great movies here. A couple I enjoyed myself that aren't mentioned here are the Cube series movies which goes as followed:

Cube
Cube 2: Hypercube
Cube Zero

They were definitely some odd movies, but enjoyable in my opinion.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 20:31:39


Post by: gorgon


BrookM wrote:As for Unforgiven, next to having stellar performances from Clint, Morgan and Gene, it's oddly about standing up for those with no rights (whores), that old habits don't die and that there are no real good guys. I especially liked the scene by the camp fire where William coldly said "We're just two guys, nothing more" and he said it with such a lack of conviction. Simply stellar.


A better line is "we all got it comin', kid." Devastating line. I've always viewed Unforgiven as an incredibly violent anti-violence film, and a bit of a mediation on the value of life in parts.

Hard to believe no one (IIRC) mentioned 2001 or The Usual Suspects. Personally I don't think Singer has distinguished himself since, but I can watch TUS again and again even though I'm aware of the twist ending. I recognize you might have to be in the right mood/state to fully enjoy 2001, but I still think it's a masterpiece. It's interesting how 2001's SFX (because they're going for realism and not Spitfires in space) hold up much better than Star Wars later in the decade.

The Great Escape also sucks me in every time it's on TV, which can put me in a bad state the next morning if it comes on at 11 pm or something similar. I dunno if it's one of my fave films ever, but that has to mean something.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 21:53:06


Post by: GoFenris


Manchu wrote:
GoFenris wrote:I actually didn't care for Kagemusha that much. Ran is fantastic, better than its source material I think! The Bad Sleep Well I also like very much but you have to stick with it because it is the final scene that makes that film. Stray Dog, a Japanese Film Noir classic and an interesting view of post WWII (right after) Japan. Yojimbo as well, of course. You know, I have yet to see Sanjuro, is it worth it? Hidden Fortress is good but to me it isn't nearly as good as so many of his others. Throne of Blood is good just for the arrow stunts near the end and I saw it quite young so the moving forest freaked me out at first.

Seven Samurai is undoubtedly a great film. So is Ran. I like both of them very much. The reason that I like Kurosawa so much is that he is a very sincere humanist. The reason that Hidden Fortress strikes me as so good is because it treats its characters with love and dignity. I like Kagemusha for the same reason. That's a weird thing to say, I know, but maybe it's worth thinking about. Red Beard and Ikiru are great examples of this, too, as is High and Low. Well, I'm not going to write a lecture on Kurosawa here but I would strongly recommend watching these films (or re-watching them, Wrex). And Sanjuro is at least as good as Yojimbo if you like Yojimbo for the right reasons.


Yes, High and Low I also liked quite a bit. It's on my shelf and I forgot it and what's worse I actually got the end of that confused with The Bad Sleep Well. It is the final scene of High and Low that defines that whole picture.

I'll have to check out Sanjuro, Ikiru and Red Beard (I did see Red Beard but it was a long, long time ago). Netflix here I come...


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 21:56:02


Post by: Frazzled


gorgon wrote:
BrookM wrote:As for Unforgiven, next to having stellar performances from Clint, Morgan and Gene, it's oddly about standing up for those with no rights (whores), that old habits don't die and that there are no real good guys. I especially liked the scene by the camp fire where William coldly said "We're just two guys, nothing more" and he said it with such a lack of conviction. Simply stellar.


A better line is "we all got it comin', kid." Devastating line. I've always viewed Unforgiven as an incredibly violent anti-violence film, and a bit of a mediation on the value of life in parts.

Hard to believe no one (IIRC) mentioned 2001 or The Usual Suspects. Personally I don't think Singer has distinguished himself since, but I can watch TUS again and again even though I'm aware of the twist ending. I recognize you might have to be in the right mood/state to fully enjoy 2001, but I still think it's a masterpiece. It's interesting how 2001's SFX (because they're going for realism and not Spitfires in space) hold up much better than Star Wars later in the decade.

The Great Escape also sucks me in every time it's on TV, which can put me in a bad state the next morning if it comes on at 11 pm or something similar. I dunno if it's one of my fave films ever, but that has to mean something.


2001 is good but I have to be in the mood and uninterrupted, preferably with a good sound system.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/22 22:07:48


Post by: Necros


Top of my list is Pee Wee's Big Adventure. The best comedy ever made, thanks to Phil Hartman (RIP)

#2 would be Dumb & Dumber

I love all the classic stuff like star wars, indiana jones, lord of the rings, etc.. but those are 2 movies I just never ever tire of seeing


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 00:16:31


Post by: Manchu


Frazzled wrote:2001 is good but I have to be in the mood and uninterrupted, preferably with a good sound system.



What an incredibly overrated snooze fest. And I've heard all the "it was incredible at the time" nonsense. But riddle me this: if 2001 is such a great masterpiece why does it always come down to the special effects? By that standard Michael Bay is as great a director as Kubrick. Give me the The Shining, Dr. Stangelove, or even Paths of Glory--those are good movies. But 2001 . . . at least I didn't fall asleep through Star Trek: Nemesis.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 00:26:03


Post by: warpcrafter


The main problem I have with 2001 is staying awake through it. Man I hate that mellow classical music.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 00:31:47


Post by: Manchu


warpcrafter wrote:The main problem I have with 2001 is staying awake through it. Man I hate that mellow classical music.

Hey don't blame the great music that Kubrick ripped off (if you don't know what I mean, look up Gyorgy Ligeti) for his extremely boring sequences and too-long-to-be-eerie-and-so-just-awkward silences. That said, I agree: staying awake through that movie could be a contest.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 00:38:16


Post by: GoFenris


Having read the book 2001 first, I have to agree. The movie moves a bit too slow even though it is a fairly accurate adaptation, despite the change-up on planets. I do somewhat enjoy the movie on its own merits although I don't go out of my way to see it and I believe Kubrick purposely made it somewhat vague. I would argue that most people that do not enjoy it simply don't 'get it' or don't care to. Which is okay because Kubrick isn't one that ever tried to please everyone.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 01:13:39


Post by: NeedleOfInquiry


Das Boot


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 01:18:55


Post by: Manchu


GoFenris wrote:I would argue that most people that do not enjoy it simply don't 'get it' or don't care to.

Oh no, I get it. I gave the whole project the benefit of the doubt. I even read the book--which Clarke wrote, IIRC, at the same time that Kubrick made the film. There simply isn't that much to get and what is there is not very compelling to me.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 01:46:29


Post by: FITZZ


Speaking of Kubrick,I have to add A Clockwork Orange to the favorites list.
Also,the first 3 Romero zombie films (Night,Dawn and Day of the Dead ).
And of course Blade Runner.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 03:59:07


Post by: GoFenris




FITZZ wrote: Speaking of Kubrick,I have to add A Clockwork Orange to the favorites list.
Also,the first 3 Romero zombie films (Night,Dawn and Day of the Dead ).
And of course Blade Runner.


Yeah, I kind of had a clue you'd be into Romero's Zombie films, I don't know why?

Clockwork is a classic as is Dr. Strangelove. The Shining I saw when I was young and I couldn't sit through that stupid bathroom scene. I have since I've grown up but the movie is still creepy to me because of how it made me feel when I was younger. Silly, I know.

As far as Epics, I have a soft spot for Ben Hur (the Wiley version). Typing of Heston, Planet of the Apes is really great as well, I saw it again recently and I always seem to forget how good it is, especially compared to the sequels and re-make.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 04:05:27


Post by: sebster


gorgon wrote:Hard to believe no one (IIRC) mentioned 2001 or The Usual Suspects. Personally I don't think Singer has distinguished himself since, but I can watch TUS again and again even though I'm aware of the twist ending. I recognize you might have to be in the right mood/state to fully enjoy 2001, but I still think it's a masterpiece. It's interesting how 2001's SFX (because they're going for realism and not Spitfires in space) hold up much better than Star Wars later in the decade.


I thought about mentioning 2001, and while it's a magnificent technical and artistic achievement, I couldn't ever say I love it because Kubrick's personal view is ultimately so cruel. Full Metal Jacket, The Shining, A Clockwork Orange, and Dr Strangelove are all just as brilliant, but similarly are films I couldn't say I love in the same way that I love films like Fargo.

I left out The Usual Suspects because I have sieve for a brain. I watched that film about two weeks ago and said then it was one of the best films of all time. Gyaargh. For the record, I think Singer distinguished himself with the first two X-Men films, a difficult property that could easily have ended up utterly inane summer movie filler (watch Singer's X-Men 2 then X-Men 3 immediately after, and you'll see how much difference a top flight directors makes). I thought Valkyrie was a very good film as well.


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Manchu wrote:

What an incredibly overrated snooze fest. And I've heard all the "it was incredible at the time" nonsense. But riddle me this: if 2001 is such a great masterpiece why does it always come down to the special effects? By that standard Michael Bay is as great a director as Kubrick. Give me the The Shining, Dr. Stangelove, or even Paths of Glory--those are good movies. But 2001 . . . at least I didn't fall asleep through Star Trek: Nemesis.


It doesn't just come down to special effects. Effects are obviously important in a film that is largely visual, but the film isn't great because it had great effects. It's great because it is such a unique, powerful look at the concept of progress. It doesn't shy away from the ugly side of progress, it opens with the bones of the failed species, and is quite explicit in saying it was man's violence that put him ahead of the other animals, but it also shows the great achievements we are becoming capable of. Typical of Kubrick, he simply shows all sides of the concept, then invites us to form our own opinion.

But it is definitely slow and the ending is weird and full of immersion destroying symbolism that seemed so popular in the 1970s. And the film is so explicit and singularly focussed on its theme that you better be interested in exploring that idea because there is nothing else going on. So it isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it is one of the great artistic achievements of film.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 04:13:18


Post by: Manchu


sebster wrote:It doesn't just come down to special effects.

Yes, it usually does. But appreciate your attempt to defend it on different terms.

sebster wrote:But it is definitely slow and the ending is weird and full of immersion destroying symbolism that seemed so popular in the 1970s. And the film is so explicit and singularly focussed on its theme that you better be interested in exploring that idea because there is nothing else going on. So it isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it is one of the great artistic achievements of film.

Nah, it's really not. I know that's what everyone's heard (and so it's what everyone says) but it really is not that great of a film. It doesn't even explore that interesting of an idea. Perhaps the idea was more captivating in 1968--but who gives a crap? Herbert Spencer was everyone's favorite philosopher in the 1860s but who knows anything about him now? IMO, and let me make this clear that it is my opinion and doesn't have to be yours, this film has survived on hype alone since the seventies.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 04:27:08


Post by: GoFenris


Manchu wrote:
sebster wrote:It doesn't just come down to special effects.

Yes, it usually does. But appreciate your attempt to defend it on different terms.


I have to disagree on this. Many of the 'better' examples of fantasy and more importantly, Science Fiction have rudimentary special effects yet superior writing. Doctor Who (the old series) is a great example of this. Part Sci-Fi, part fairy tale but all (well most of it) horribly low budget and often cheesy but it often asks some great questions.

Manchu wrote:...IMO, and let me make this clear that it is my opinion and doesn't have to be yours, this film has survived on hype alone since the seventies.


This is a great bit and true of SO many movies. It is how we remember them which leads to why we seek them out. I love Godzilla movies, even the newer ones, but they are all cheesy on some level. But they make me feel, "something I have not felt since...." Well, you get my point.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 04:33:58


Post by: sebster


Manchu wrote:Nah, it's really not. I know that's what everyone's heard (and so it's what everyone says) but it really is not that great of a film. It doesn't even explore that interesting of an idea. Perhaps the idea was more captivating in 1968--but who gives a crap? Herbert Spencer was everyone's favorite philosopher in the 1860s but who knows anything about him now? IMO, and let me make this clear that it is my opinion and doesn't have to be yours, this film has survived on hype alone since the seventies.


Thing is, as a 13 or 14 year old, sitting there watching 2001 I was seeing a study on something I'd never really considered before (I knew about monkeys evolving into people and man heading into space but I'd never really thought that it's all really the same thing, and never thought about exactly what that thing is and what it really means). Or something, my summary there ends up sounding fairly banal, but that's another part of why 2001 is such an achievement... it's rare that film becomes the definitive exploration of an issue, to the point where the best start to discussing the concept isn't to summarise part of the movie, to watch the movie. So much of what it says is hard to put into words.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 04:46:30


Post by: Manchu


GoFenris wrote:But they make me feel, "something I have not felt since...." Well, you get my point.

You, sir, are awesome and get your point with what I feel must be the greatest accuracy.

sebster wrote:it's rare that film becomes the definitive exploration of an issue, to the point where the best start to discussing the concept isn't to summarise part of the movie, to watch the movie. So much of what it says is hard to put into words.

Okay: I'm not saying that the film has no merit. I simply don't think it deserves the amount of praise it constantly gets. It's not even as good as Blade Runner, for heaven's sake, but you don't hear people talking about Blade Runner as a major masterpiece of film. (Nor should they. It's good. It's just not that good.) Sometimes an incoherent book or film is actually just bad rather than "important."


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 04:49:26


Post by: Cheese Elemental


I'm going to stir up a shitstorm here and say that the Resident Evil movies are pretty damn good in my opinion.

It's not like they're any worse than Romero's zombie films.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 04:54:57


Post by: GoFenris


Cheese Elemental wrote:I'm going to stir up a shitstorm here and say that the Resident Evil movies are pretty damn good in my opinion.

It's not like they're any worse than Romero's zombie films.


Yikes! Apples and oranges, or more accurately, Applebees and McDonalds is about all I'm going to say about this. I smell a trap and I'm going to resist any further pull from that alluring bait.



Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:02:28


Post by: Manchu


Yeah, I'm not touching that, either. Sorry Cheese, but this is a smile and nod politely situation.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:03:55


Post by: sebster


Cheese Elemental wrote:I'm going to stir up a shitstorm here and say that the Resident Evil movies are pretty damn good in my opinion.


Nothing wrong with that. People can like whatever they want to like. This is 'favourite movie' and not 'good movies', so it is about the movies you like, not the movies that are actually good.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:05:11


Post by: garret


I like Syfy original movies.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:07:19


Post by: Manchu


What do the people think about Serenity?


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:08:24


Post by: Cheese Elemental


You mean the ones that the SciFi channel itself makes? I never liked them, they seem to be low-budget affairs with corny writing mostly.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:10:22


Post by: garret


That why i like them.
Oh and now it SyFY. fething morans


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:13:36


Post by: Cheese Elemental


It's still called Sci-Fi over here.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:15:47


Post by: GoFenris


garret wrote:I like Syfy original movies.


Another, yikes! Although I admit I watch a lot of them looking for that rare gem like Dog Soldiers (Although not technically produced by SciFi/SyFy) but am rarely surprised. Their was one about a frozen mammoth with a sentient bacteria, I think, with Summer Glau that was entertaining. I can't remember the title.

Manchu wrote:What do the people think about Serenity?


I like it quite a bit. One of the more interesting and realistic villains in a while. Paced well, good action, continued the show's arc and even brought some things full circle. Also added some solid Science Fiction elements regarding Miranda. From a story telling standpoint I think its excellent! Whedon has a knack for making simple ideas much better. Not high art but certainly a few cuts above the average. (I was introduced to the show from this movie, I saw this and thought I should give the show a try)


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:17:18


Post by: garret


Lucky. Do to confusion with there name they decided to change it.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:18:16


Post by: Manchu


GoFenris wrote: One of the more interesting and realistic villains in a while.

While agree with everything you said, I think this point is really important. The Agent was the best villain I've seen for a long, long time.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:19:19


Post by: Cheese Elemental


I haven't seen any of Uwe Boll's movies. Why is he regarded as a bad director? What's wrong with his movies?

For the record, I thought the new Dawn of the Dead was awful. It was just an excuse to see people get killed in nasty ways. It's almost as bad as Saw.


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Oh, by the way, has anybody seen Hatchet? I know I might sound like a hypocrite for recommending a movie about watching people die in gruesome ways, but I think it's a nice bit of meat for the slasher genre until some genius director gets off his arse and makes a new Nightmare on Elm Street.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:27:25


Post by: GoFenris


Cheese Elemental wrote:I haven't seen any of Uwe Boll's movies. Why is he regarded as a bad director? What's wrong with his movies?

For the record, I thought the new Dawn of the Dead was awful. It was just an excuse to see people get killed in nasty ways. It's almost as bad as Saw.



Uwe Boll admits to slapping together crap at the lowest possible price and putting it out there for a few bucks. That's enough for me to stay away. While Roger Corman did essentially much of the same thing, the difference is Roger Corman gave a lot of future cinema talent a chance when no one else would and some of Corman's are classics in their own right. (i.e. Little Shop of Horrors, Death Race 2000, etc.) I have yet to see any of Boll's movies as worth a crap.

Your second Dawn of the Dead comment also smells of trap. Actually one of the funny things about the original Dawn and Day was to kill people in unique and interesting ways. I actually do like (not love) the remake. The first five minutes or so I felt were VERY effective.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:30:11


Post by: Cheese Elemental


I'm not trolling here. I didn't like the new Dawn of the Dead for that reason is all.

I agree, however, that the start of the film was very good, with the zombified girl and the woman fleeing from the house with a zombie hot on her heels.

Speaking of flesh-eaters, how do you find Black Sheep? I feel that it put a nice spin on the mindless mutant zombie theme.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:31:24


Post by: sebster


Manchu wrote:What do the people think about Serenity?


The people or the geeks? Because you're on a website for geeks asking about what the people thought.

For the record, most people thought it pretty average, while geek opinion ranged from meh to awesome. My own geek opinion was somewhere closer to meh, it felt like a TV show concept rammed into a big budget movie.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:35:57


Post by: GoFenris


Cheese Elemental wrote:I'm not trolling here. I didn't like the new Dawn of the Dead for that reason is all.

I agree, however, that the start of the film was very good, with the zombified girl and the woman fleeing from the house with a zombie hot on her heels.

Speaking of flesh-eaters, how do you find Black Sheep? I feel that it put a nice spin on the mindless mutant zombie theme.


You know, I haven't caught that one yet.

sebster wrote:
Manchu wrote:What do the people think about Serenity?


...it felt like a TV show concept rammed into a big budget movie.


I kind of agree on this but I liked it quite a bit. Yeah, I know, I'm a nerd, I admit it.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:36:02


Post by: Manchu


sebster wrote:The people or the geeks? Because you're on a website for geeks asking about what the people thought.

I'm asking my people, our people, the people who would know.

I notice the Watchmen has yet to come up yet.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:38:27


Post by: Cheese Elemental


GoFenris wrote:
Cheese Elemental wrote:I'm not trolling here. I didn't like the new Dawn of the Dead for that reason is all.

I agree, however, that the start of the film was very good, with the zombified girl and the woman fleeing from the house with a zombie hot on her heels.

Speaking of flesh-eaters, how do you find Black Sheep? I feel that it put a nice spin on the mindless mutant zombie theme.


You know, I haven't caught that one yet.

Oh man, do I pity anyone who hasn't seen it. It manages to be serious and just as creepy as any zombie movie while generating a lot of hilarity just from its absurd concept of killer sheep.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:40:21


Post by: GoFenris


Manchu wrote:I notice the Watchmen has yet to come up yet.


That's because for me...

a.) I need to see it again and give it some time to 'settle' as it were before putting it anywhere near classic status IMO.

b.) Snyder was really F-ing ambitious making this one as a third movie and he used too much of the same visual style he had already used in 300.

I remember liking it but the truth is, until everything is added in the way Snyder originally intended (i.e. the Tales of the Black Freighter bits which Fox is withholding to drive up DVD/Blu-Ray sales) I can't even begin to have an opinion on it.

It certainly not a traditional story with classical characters.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:46:29


Post by: garret


Cheese Elemental wrote:Speaking of flesh-eaters, how do you find Black Sheep? I feel that it put a nice spin on the mindless mutant zombie theme.

Do you mean the one with the shhep that bitr you you turn into one and the guy who feths a sheep.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:48:22


Post by: Manchu


I just watched the Director's Cut today without having seen the theatrical release. I think it was good, definitely a step up from that god-awful movie 300, and closer to the comic (oops--graphic novel) than I expected. But I should say that while I thought the graphic novel was good, I have no inclination to worship it as the most important thing to ever happen to comics.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:52:46


Post by: GoFenris


Manchu wrote:...I have no inclination to worship it (Watchmen) as the most important thing to ever happen to comics.


Yeah, I hear that a lot as well. I don't think that either. I think I can understand that those that did read it when it came out marveled at it as it was a deconstruction of their beloved genre. To read it years later, it doesn't carry the same impact.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 05:52:50


Post by: Cheese Elemental


garret wrote:
Cheese Elemental wrote:Speaking of flesh-eaters, how do you find Black Sheep? I feel that it put a nice spin on the mindless mutant zombie theme.

Do you mean the one with the shhep that bitr you you turn into one and the guy who feths a sheep.

Yeah, that's it.


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For those interested, here's a clip from the movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHiNLx-CKeY&feature=related
I strongly recommend skipping this scene if you've got a weak stomach; parts of it are extremely gory, if funny. Gory as in, guts getting eaten and limbs getting torn off.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 06:50:16


Post by: Roze


i didn't like the re-make, but i love the origional.

Drag me to Hell has to be anohter of my Fave movies!


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 07:32:52


Post by: BrookM


They Live is a good cult classic.

Die Hard is still a great movie and to me the pinacle of 80's action movies.

Watchmen isn't that great now that I've seen it on DVD. I try very hard to like it but I can't.

Oh and there's Steamboy, I recently watched it again, a marvellous movie for the steampunk amongst us.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/23 12:10:36


Post by: Frazzled


Manchu wrote:What do the people think about Serenity?


Good film. Love the writing. I'm awaiting the series set SWMBO procured for my anniversary present. Two more days.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/24 09:01:19


Post by: Wrexasaur


In terms of Martial arts flicks, two of my favorites are Ong-Bak and Kung-fu Hustle. Both are simply epic.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/24 09:03:42


Post by: Manchu


BrookM wrote:Watchmen isn't that great now that I've seen it on DVD. I try very hard to like it but I can't.

Did you see the theatrical release of director's cut? I only saw director's cut and like it very much. Also, did you read the comic?

Frazzled wrote:Good film. Love the writing. I'm awaiting the series set SWMBO procured for my anniversary present. Two more days.

Dammit, Frazz, even I'm excited about your anniversary now.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/25 07:44:24


Post by: karnaeya


serenity was good..

the agent was cool.

My favorite movie would still be gladiator even though I havent seen it in a long time.


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/26 19:57:37


Post by: FITZZ


Cheese Elemental wrote:
GoFenris wrote:
Cheese Elemental wrote:I'm not trolling here. I didn't like the new Dawn of the Dead for that reason is all.

I agree, however, that the start of the film was very good, with the zombified girl and the woman fleeing from the house with a zombie hot on her heels.

Speaking of flesh-eaters, how do you find Black Sheep? I feel that it put a nice spin on the mindless mutant zombie theme.


You know, I haven't caught that one yet.

Oh man, do I pity anyone who hasn't seen it. It manages to be serious and just as creepy as any zombie movie while generating a lot of hilarity just from its absurd concept of killer sheep.

I have to admit it Cheese,when your right your right,I just saw Black Sheep last night for the first time and I loved it,great blend of horror and comedy .


Favorite movie. @ 2009/07/26 20:02:56


Post by: Mad Rabbit


Black Sheep was awesome, even if a certain scene made me clutch a certain part of my body in fear. Not that I have provoked any sheep in that way, but still. The image was stirring.