With the year end results just out I thought this would be an interesting poll...

I voted for Model/Scult quality.

I do buy lots of GW stuff on a monthly basis but after seeing the two new tanks they've released I'm disappointed by them. Shoddily made, smaller than the older vehicles and missing accessory kits while asking £5 more.

I've been saying since the last price rise, I was okay when they were reasonably overpriced. It's getting a tad silly now. 'A little cheaper' because I was ok with the previous prices, but obviously I'd buy even more if they were significantly cheaper. A new army might do it for me too, but it would depend...

I went for more money because the price doesn't really over concern me it is a good hobby so I am willing to go the extra mile.
The problem with prices is that not enough people buy.

I put "a little cheaper" because I only started playing just before the price rise. The boxes of metals are now only a little overpriced with the exception of Grey Knight Terminators and possibly some others. The plastics are the main offenders, particularly the marines, $55 Australian is pushing it a little too far. I would pay $35 for a box of plastics, the guardsmen are that price. I picked Grey Knights mainly because they're metal, not to mention awesome. At least most of the metals are good value.

If my income somehow doubled ( ) I would increase my miniatures budget from $25 a month to $50 a month, and then it would take a price from of about 25% for me to generate much enthusiasm. Right now, I'm making a unit of flash gitz. The bodies are from Micro Arts studios and the heads/weapons are from Maxmini. Only the arms are from GW, and that's just because they were already in my bitz box. After that, my Ork army is gonna be done for awhile.

20% cheaper than they are now would be reasonable if not a but Utopian.

The main reason I want them to be cheaper, is because the rate they are raising prices and the excuses they use to defend them is borderline appealing to me.

As soon as the "plastic and metal toy soldiers" part starts to take focus in their tactics I will support them.

I would buy more if i could commission models to be made to my specifications. For example, a different titan for the eldar cause the ones they have at the moment aren't very cool. I'd like to design my own then have them add it to the codex.

Not really the point of this poll, but I put Other - cos I just bought some today!

I voted 'if I had more money', because even though the prices sting, I dont think I would buy more than I do now if they were cheaper. Generally it takes me so long to finish units that affording more isnt an issue

That said, it was a difficult choice. The last option should really be 'all of the above'

If they were a little cheaper

Update my damn Dark Eldar already. Make them cheaper for making us Dark Eldar players wait a decade for an update.

Not soo much better sculpt quality, but better fitting with plastic kits.
even with all the tech they use now alot of kits are a pain in the ass to fit together, and tend to need GS'ing to fill gaps.

Also the same with metal models, once again they have huge gaps due to casting, which means using up GS to fill in the crap.

While on the subject, less mould lines please
or atleast better placed once (like for example; not on the horn of the chaos champ, as its a pain to remove due to the horns ribbed effect)

I voted other:-

If the cool fluff from the black libary matched the things being produce at GW, i know its been said before, but , what happened with the chaos codex for example, its so missribale now, the " Possesed " CSM look so rubish and the rules for then are worse. If GW paid more attention to the hobby instead of producing codex's just so they can release some naff new model it would make more sence and encorage older gamers like me to buy more. Obviously they want to encorage new game-ers to the hobby like little kids with rich parents but once they see how GW ripped them off they will be gone, Just keep it consistant and the hobby will benifit from game-ers wanting to continue playing long after there pubes have grown or even started to fall out...

I'll never buy from GW again, its all about e-bay, i'd rather pay for a half chewed second hand SM and convert it into something which matches my idear of a possessed CSM than buy from them teefin' ras GW coreprate sell out's, give them some sausage and make them remember what GW was all about...space and the final fronteer(oops thats star trek)

I voted:
If they were much cheaper.
If I had more Money.
And If I weren't going to Germany this month, causeing me to save for suvineers.

I don't think alot of people realised you could vote for more than one.

I went with the cheaper(s) of course, but also with the out of date armies option.

An Inquisition army(ies) would be my 40k first choice - but the damn things are a decade out of date and all metal. Blech.

Improved production quality would be a small bump too - because I would more readily tackle projects if it didn't mean 3 weeks de-mold-lining stuff.

I put both a little cheaper and a lot cheaper

A little for me because I already buy it at this price point (not for awhile though) and I'd probably buy it more at a slightly cheaper price point.

A put a lot cheaper because I have six friends I have introduced to the game that won't play simply because of the expense.

I put much cheaper because I think the models are simply to expensive for what they do and I think it takes to long for a prospective player to build an army someone would want to play against.

I need more MUNNY!!!!

I voted for other, the nearest GW store is a few hundred miles from home.

I'm there with the rest of you on the money. The prices just keep going up and up while average income keeps falling and falling. I also feel like I've been completely abandoned as a xenos player and the other armies I like I'll never buy until there's a new codex and I know they'll actually be supported. Isn't it sad when you have to think that way with a hobby as small as this?

Money is the biggest issue with 40k

Sooo it sums down to cheaper prices and we would all want to buy more.

I would if I had more money and/or if there were an official GW kroot dex. I love them, but playing with the Kompletely Kroot dex has obvious problems such as tourneys and players that aren't cool with 3rd party rules.

I would totally play Dark Eldar if they had a new codex and it was possible to buy the minis at my CLGS

I'm wanting more options to be packaged with the boxes/blisters... if a unit can take combi-flamers... include combi-flamers

new models for old armies and more 3rd party lines.
looking at the moment at forgeworld avatar,if price is right.
but at the moment im ebaying it for oop eldar for variety.

I went for other mainly because its a combination of things.

The price doesn't bother me at all, I knew it was this expensive when I got involved and I still don't bat an eyelid when I walk into a GW or whatever and drop £100 in the till for some elf cavalry a tank and a dragon thats never bothered me.

I would like to see a faster turnaround on updating older army books I mean Wood Elves are pretty much the Space Wolves of WFB, 6th came out we had to wait till pretty much 7th edition for the Wood Elf Army book to come out, I mean you look to take WFB in keeping with GW's 5 year game life span theoretically next year WFB is due for an update, yet they still need to re do these army books: Wood Elves, Tomb Kings, Beast of Chaos, Skaven, Ogre Kingdoms and Brettonians thats 6 Army Books that still need updating because compared to the new army books they just suck. New models don't bother me (I prefer alot of sculpts from 4th/5th ed Fantasy and 2nd ed 40k to some of the newer ones) its just the lack of support for an army that isnt space marines. Then of course theres the new expansions that keep getting released for 40k taking up alot of the design teams time PLanetstrike cool idea, but it will be like CoD once the honeymoon period is over it will fade into the background and not be played to any great degree (at least from exp) Nids, Tau, Skaven these are all popular armies and definately need a new update soon if not now (please no one mention Dark Eldar).

There is also the issue of the quality of the product lately, if im paying £20 - 30 for a unit I don't want mouldlines the size of Calcutta on the models, if the casting technology has come along as far as GW like to brag about then surely something could be done to minimise this? I mean for the sake of 5 minutes with a laser and viola its done...still thats another one for another day.

I chose for cheaper, more money, new updates to armies, and improvement in casting. Not because I think GW stuff is too expensive, or has bad sculpts, but just because if it was cheaper, or had better sculpts than normal, I'd buy a ton more.

Also, when GW creates new games, they may as well put my name on the pre-order list during development.

I'd buy more if I had the fethin' time to paint them.

I do buy from third parties (that have something like a 20% discount) so I would definately buy more from GW if their prices were even slightly lower. Having more money would be good too

If third party models were easier to obtain for someone without a credit card/doesn't live in Britain/lives in a place where Forgeworld doesn't do stands

I put slightly cheaper because I remember when a regiment/squad was £12, went up to £15, ok fine I'll live with that, now at £18, its just daft, If they bring it down to £15 I'll buy plenty more, also the boxs of 10 for empire, IG and orks in the 10 man, £12 boxes...£24 for 20 guys, considering there was a time when for £15 you could get 24 skinks, ridiculus.

oh and before I go, even with this ridiculusness, I was O.K. because I could get on webstores for the old, acceptable, £15 (I'd be in heaven if I got 20% off £15) but then they put tac marines up to £20 where the feth do get off GW?!?!?! and still I'm a sucker because I just turn around and say "well it's only £16 at discount" but its the principal

Much lower prices, heh, who wouldn't buy more if they didn't cost as much?

These prices and the rate at which they increase are killing me.

If the game they were created for didn't suck. It wouldn't hurt to make them a little cheaper.

Someone explain to GW how to read a Laffer Curve and maybe they'll roll back prices a bit. (Laffer Curve is a bell-shaped price to earnings curve showing that increasing price brings in more money to a certain point where it then shows a decrease in earnings as the price rises above that point)

I pretty much clicked every box except "never". I get enjoyment out of my figures, I'll buy more if they don't change anything, but I'll also buy more if they lower prices, improve quality, make more games, etc.


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Deuce11 wrote:Someone explain to GW how to read a Laffer Curve and maybe they'll roll back prices a bit. (Laffer Curve is a bell-shaped price to earnings curve showing that increasing price brings in more money to a certain point where it then shows a decrease in earnings as the price rises above that point)

Hey, let's derail the thread!

Seriously - you're some random guy on the internet. You have no data on GW's inner financials. They're a publicly traded company with a corporate board of directors, and professional business folk setting prices. You really think they don't know about Laffer Curves? Maybe they've already accounted for it, and the current price is already at the sweet spot.

I echo the opinion that a box of minis needs to account for all of the weapons options that are available to the unit that is contained within the box. Consideration of the manner in which those weapons would commonly be used would also be a plus.

For example, let us pretend that I want to make a Nobz squad, and I have a handful of vanilla Nobz from Assault on Black Reach. To make an effective Nobz squad, I need Big Choppas, Power Klaws, Shoota/Skorcha Kombi-Weapons, and a Waaagh! Banner. I go online to check the contents of the Nobz boxed set. It contains no Waaagh! Banner, and all of the Kombi-Weapons are sculpted to be two-handed. If I want a Waaagh! Banner, I will need to make one. If I want individual Nobz to carry both Power Klaws and Kombi-Weapons, I will need to do conversions. Considering I have a handful of vanilla Nobz and a full box of bitz for conversions already, I don't need to purchase that Nobz boxed set. When a gamer is assembling an army that consists of hundreds of models, time becomes very, very valuable. The primary incentive for me to purchase that set would have been to save me time and effort by providing me the options I need without resorting to conversions.

That is just one example. I do not doubt that there are countless others.

I went for much cheaper, 35 pounds for a rulebook, which is something you need to play the game is just rediclous

BTW, where can you get 20% off?

If I had more money...lol

i put other cus i buy somthing almost every other week

Redbeard wrote:I pretty much clicked every box except "never". I get enjoyment out of my figures, I'll buy more if they don't change anything, but I'll also buy more if they lower prices, improve quality, make more games, etc.


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Deuce11 wrote:Someone explain to GW how to read a Laffer Curve and maybe they'll roll back prices a bit. (Laffer Curve is a bell-shaped price to earnings curve showing that increasing price brings in more money to a certain point where it then shows a decrease in earnings as the price rises above that point)

Hey, let's derail the thread!

Seriously - you're some random guy on the internet. You have no data on GW's inner financials. They're a publicly traded company with a corporate board of directors, and professional business folk setting prices. You really think they don't know about Laffer Curves? Maybe they've already accounted for it, and the current price is already at the sweet spot.

Oh they've blown way past any conceivable sweet spot to the land of make-believe. Just because they might possibly have 'professional business folk' doesn't mean they aren't a bunch of bloodsucking corporate weasels.

I don't have any particular need or desire to buy any more stuff.

I have plenty enough minis to play pretty much whatever I like, and more than enough unpainted / unbuilt stuff to keep me busy for the foreseeable future.

However, if something catches my eye, is reasonably-priced, and is within my budget, I'll get it.

I would buy more GW if they were all PLASTIC! More room for conversions. Lighter to carry. Will not wound opponent on tantrum throws of a 6-up.

I'm London based and used to get them delivered but the postal strike is a nightmare. A new store opened up in Waterloo and is offering 25% off for the next couple of weeks so I'm going to be taking full advantage! Might finally be able to finish off my new Necron force

I said if they released new models/ if they lowered the price/ if I had more money, but I know if I walk past the shop I usually black out and when I come to I've spent all my life savings

I put 'other', that being. I would buy more stuff, if they updated everything, rules/minis/background more frequently and consistently. I want more of everything, plus newer stuff (after all the old stuff is out), faster.

Boo yiz!!

Cheaper, more money and if old armies are updated is what I think.

Other.

I cannot say I will definitely buy more GW in the future. I also cannot say that I will definitely become god-emperor either. It infers that there is no other option.

I may buy some. I may find a better looking alternate model from someone else.
I may even stop playing 40k (again). There are some newer skirmish games that are taking my fancy.

I'm currently content with the prices of Games-Workshop models and modeling equipment.

The expensive models are a status icon and much more respectable costing a fair amount. If everyone who played warhammer could get a large, 3000-5000 point army overnight where would the respect in that be?

If my money was more abundant or more worth more I would buy more minis in general. If GW was still producing their older models I would buy those. I know I can get some of them here and there, but I haven't had very good luck with ebay. What with being out-bid or having the cost of the mini raised beyond the benefit of having it (shipping and washing and waiting and the price).

Mostly tho, it's the money. I would buy more minis, all of the ones I wanted in fact, if I had the money to. Whether that means the figures are cheap or my money is greater in quantity and/or value makes no difference.

For what its relevance still is, the Laffer curve models tax revenue. It has nothing to do with Games Workshop's pricing.

Other:

I will buy more stuff when I learn to paint faster. I simply have too much stuff collected with no time to paint it.

Most everyone pointed out they're broke. Lack of money definately curbs enthusiasm to buy. So I can definately agree with cheaper models.

Because of inflation in prices, newer people are deterred from even starting wargaming, save for the elite/obsessed. Wouldn't the game be more enjoyable if everyone could play? Just a thought.

Generally i dont mind buying them but some models are too expensive to form a decent-size unit or not worth there money.

Yes dark elf war hydra im looking at you!! Waste of £35. It's only got one head.

The only thing between me and the world's largest WE army is $$$

Also, Warhawh riders are $20 each??? You need 3 for the minimum unit size so just for the minimum you need to spend 60 bucks!!! I still want them really bad and am still saving for them

Other- A majority of the pieces i want are metal and are hard to convert. The metal figures limit the individuality of the model so i wish they were plastic so i could make them more unique. For example, if the eldar army wasn't 80% metal pieces I would play them.


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Dedrith wrote:I'm currently content with the prices of Games-Workshop models and modeling equipment.

The expensive models are a status icon and much more respectable costing a fair amount. If everyone who played warhammer could get a large, 3000-5000 point army overnight where would the respect in that be?

I don't put much respect on what you have but more on how you use it. Just because you have the money to buy the better piece it doesn't make you a good wargamer. No, respect goes to those who can take on the Dark Angels Death Wing with an army of nothing but gretchen not to the player who bought the Marneus Calgar with the diamond encrusted codpiece (however, respect goes to the person who converts that).

Mine is a matter of time.
I've decided not to buy more until I finish to paint what I have (and that's a lot of work)
When I was young I have time, but no money.
Now I have money, but no time.

I voted for cheaper. When i started wargaming, 1 landraider costed 70 bucks. Almost 2 years later IT COSTS 88?! This is in Norway, 1$=5 Nok

More money+ A little cheaper= Buy more

Keep forgetting the square ones are multi-choice! Needing more money and the products being cheaper are nearly the same anyway.

TIME! I just need more time. There's hardly any reason to buy new miniatures if I don't really have the time to construct/convert/paint/play with the minis I have at this time. Though I admit there are moments of weakness........

Right now i feel GW is marketing the horde armies and not selling them in large boxes. I dont mind playing $120 for a battle force but i want to get a lot of plastic for that money. To play nids and have squads of 30 gants is only 150 pts and that would cost $90 to buy the small boxes. Swarm armies should be able to get their basic troops dirt cheap. Atleast 15 boys or gants in a box

Hi LegoBurner!

I picked 'Other' too, because I will buy more GW miniatures even without them doing anything different at all.

---Be blessed!
Frankie

I'd buy more if the rules were better written, more complete and better balanced. Hire GWAR to rules lawyer everything afterwords, add in some player feedback for balance issues and change their edition/army book cycle to something that I can look forward instead of loathe. Maybe even become more transparent and communicative with the hobby as a whole. Oh... and maybe stop thinking that Wargaming = Warhammer and acknowledge the other companies out there that make games that fit player's better then GW games

Right now, I am buying minimal items for two reasons: money and fear of a new codex. The first being self-explanatory, I play Dark Angels and I fear that some of my minis would be rendered obsolete or needing modification. I am trying to build an army with a minimum of redundant or unused models.

One thing that would make me more willing to buy would be if boxes came with more misc bits, if the tac marine box came with 2 plasma guns / melta guns / powerfists or swords id be much more willing to buy them instead of get them through classifieds.

Toss up for me between a little and much cheaper.

I plan on buying a new army in 6 months or so, (due to life, bills and more important purchases. I really hope they have some cheaper plastic for characters. They should make a set like commander of the watch but in plastic.

Without a doubt GW miniatures are some of the most overpriced items in the game market and frankly the quality does not warrant the cost.

Especially given the move to plastics, the prices should have at worst be about 10% less and have held steayd for years and realistically should have been 20% less. Their marketing and pricing strategies are fairly absurd and reflect their stock price performance.

This is a company in desperate need of new management.

-If GW wrote rules that worked and protected my investment in future editions.
Even then, I would be hesitant to get certain infantry since the lack of undercuts in that styrene is so obvious on some of them, and I would have to pick an army with a low skull count.

I voted -If they were much cheaper- because quite frankly, I think their prices are a bit on the loony bin side. Now you can argue that the modelers, sculptors, creators, etc. Must get a cut, but when the day comes that a box of termies is $75 or even $100 is the day that I will just stop buying. (Well, actually probably if they even hit $60 )

I'd buy more if:
They were a little cheaper
They were a lot cheaper (would prefer this, but a little cheaper is still good)
If I had more money
If older armies were updated significantly
If production quality was better
If they sculpts were better (This and prod. quality are minor, most sculpts are okay, some are dire, though)

Others:
If I had time to paint them
If I could paint
If they came with the options they could take instead of requiring additional bitz orders to outfit several squads.
If my GW was open more and longer
If I had more time to play

I am not too worried about the price since 90% of my GW miniatures are purchased online outside of the GW stores/website. I would happily spend a few hundred on new Tau Crisis Suits were someone to sculpt/produce them.

i voted for a little cheaper but we need to remember gw is a buissness that will try and make the biggest profit they can and to be fair they make some of the best models in the world YAY GW

I don't really have a problem with the prices. I voted 'other'. I'd buy more if I could get the ones I have painted!

Im only about to spend $300 a year so i get as much as i can

If they had better quality, lower prices, and if I had a gakload of money. Huh, I didn't notice the price hike on some of the models 'till now.

CSM pack when I bought 'em = $35.00
CSM pack now = $37.50

a little cheaper! I think its outrageous to base the price of the model on its value in the game!

Personally I think the quality of GW models are impeccable, thats why this is the only Wargame I play!

If they where cheaper and if they had more models.

I'd buy more if I had time to paint the ones I already have..

Other: If specialist games were re-released.

If they were cheaper, for sure.

PS, I like how the 3 highest reasons involve money. Who knew?

Combination of having more money and the kits being significantly cheaper.Surely cheaper = more stuff sold.

GW is top of the line for model sculpts - even without greenstuff and plastic card, GW models are easy to pose and some (EVERY SINGLE DARK ELDAR MODEL) approach art-level degrees of awesomeness.

That being said, GW does need to reign in the prices.

If they cost much cheaper. Why do they keep putting the price up!!!??? AUD $62 for 10 man Space Marine Tactical squad! That equals out to roughly 40 pounds/46 euros/ US $65!

Personally i've said both a little and a lot cheaper, I understand that they need to make money same as everyone else, but it seems that even after they've released their money saving plastic models (the new finecast series), the prices have gone up not down like they said they would. (Swapping to plastic will pass the savings onto the customers...)

The big reason tho is the number of times i got models and want to try all the different accessories (I know need to get magnets), but its frustrating when you have enough arms, bodies and heads to make 5 new people from 2 boxes, yet theres a distinctive lack of legs to be found.

Finally it always strikes me that the lowest price models that are single models, you pay maybe double that and you get around quadruple the number of things to paint, so the lower the number of models isnt proportionate to a lower price.

Anyway, as a painter I find that GW has a varied lot, some things are ok buys and others are terrible. Best buys they have are the army or theme boxes (Black reach etc...), but as for the lower tier stuff I feel prices now are nearly unjustifiable.

I think they should drop the price of the bog standard stuff and keep the snazzies as they are. Theres always enough people who want the really cool stuff and would pay highish prices for it, plus having a lower price on the lower tier sets would mean more people could afford to start playing/painting.

Apologies for the minor rant

TQ.

If I had money (no job) I would still not buy any at these prices.

I still don't understand why a crisis suit costs $30 CAN! $15 to $20 would be fine, I would pay that but not $30.

and on top of that I just started a year ago so, I have a very small army to play with.

Oh well back to DoW .

I think GW minis are amazing, and I love buying them and painting them regardless of the game, (even though I do play it as well)

I just wish that...
1) I had more money and
2) the models were cheaper

(10 space marines for about $35 and 10 orks for $20 is ridiculous)

I would definitely buy more GW miniatures if their attitude towards gamers, hobbyists and people in general was improved.

My answer isn't in the choices: I already buy more than I can paint *g* I wouldn't mind the stuff being cheaper, though, of course.

I think the models are way to expensive. Also GW seems to only update armys they like instead of just up dating all of them.

I would buy more if my wife would let me.

Voted never - The only thing that could get me to buy more minis would be if I suddenly somehow got a lot more free time on my hands. I hate having unpainted and unassembled models lying around (damnit, they deserve to be painted!), and I already have enough models to last me a year or two of painting, since I at most have time to paint about 1k-1,5k pts worth of models every year.

......if they were 50-60% cheaper and reflected the true cost of manufacture ;o)

The options don't totally cover my opinion so...

I would definitely buy more GW miniatures if: They were cheaper, not made in finecast and had well written rules.

If they licenced Elric models I could probably give them a little leniency in all three areas.

If you compare the prices to general inflation in other areas, (atleast not here in sweden), the price increase actually isn't that bad...

I have no issues with the expense of the models, it's the terrain prices that piss me off... I mean, you want HOW much for three trees now?????!

I don' buy more than I have time to paint, which means atm, I won't br buying anything 'crpt the occasional paint pot untill after christmas, and for the first two quarters of nex year, I allready know what to buy. Snikrot, if he comes out in finecast, same with the kommando box, a box of grots, and three killa kans... After that, my 2k army is complete, and I'll start making some units to mix it up a bit, mainly using bits. Might spend a little on e-bay, if I find aobr boys for a steal, as I allready have shootas and shoota arms enugh to make a platoon or two...

Terrain though, I'd buy alot more if it was cheaper.

So yeah, I'm an "other".
//Calle

I'd buy them if I had more money and it was cheaper... or if I could at least buy them from online retailers :(

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I voted for more money , I've spent over £500!

LESS METAL! I HATE metal models! theyre so unpractical and basicly just a reason to put a high price. With finecast, it should have lowered the price but instead its even more expensive!


RAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

drive the prices down and i would be super complied to buy more miniatures

For me it's definitely if I had more money. The prices don't really bother me, I get 20% off because it's a staff perk of where I work, but in my 5 weeks of gaming I've spent easily £250+

I build scale military models, and my closet is full of untouched kits.

I also build/play 40K, and I grudging buy new kits (still building my first IG army) only when I near completing what I have. There is no stockpile, no kits that may never be used or traded.

Others: Need GW to support their Specialist games

Other:

1.) Start treating customers with a modicum of respect instead of viewing young players as ATMs and older players as contemptible pests.

2.) More reasonable prices. Offering the same model kits but reducing the price by about 10% would be a good start.

3.) More support for Specialist Games (IE, any support at all).

Of course the ludicrous pricing plays a big part, but minis are simply expensive. I can get over that, I just wouldn't buy as much. Beyond that, 8th Ed killed WHFB around here and the latest codex took my Tyranid army out back and shot it. Then stabbed it. Then spat on it for good measure.

RatBot wrote:Other:

1.) Start treating customers with a modicum of respect instead of viewing young players as ATMs and older players as contemptible pests.

2.) More reasonable prices. Offering the same model kits but reducing the price by about 10% would be a good start.

3.) More support for Specialist Games (IE, any support at all).

I totally agree with number 1. I went to my local GW store, I hadn't been for years and year, and I vaguely knew what I wanted but was willing to open my wallet for stuff that I can't get in either the place I work, or the other GW stockist in town. Soon as I started looking around the manager came over, tried obviously to up sell. I wanted scenery for a diorama, namely the Sanctum Imperialis but he was like "but the Shrine of Aquila would look better", I spent £60 and soon as he had my money, that was it, no more interest, like when I wanted tips on how to do armour highlighting etc he gave me a two second 'talk' and tried fobbing me off as soon as another customer walked in

I won't be going back again, I'd rather just order online and take advantage of the free postage

I would buy more if I had more money. I don't have much of a problem with prices.

lower prices, more updates, bigger battalions/battleforce sets(as well as standard because this gak is PITIFUL); it feel i get my moneys worth simply for the work i will put into it & time consumed by DAMN FGW made a mistake showing me whatr they used to sell units as. Not sure why Plaguemarines got linked to an old Empire battalion but ok; its bigger than the current one i tell you that much. Also 10 bucks cheaper.

And for feth sake open a hobby center in Gransd Prairie or Arlington. I don't want to drive all the way to Grapevine mills, pick up a model and get treated like a pest by some two bit ass behind the counter, drive back through Arlington and Dallas to get back home. Not worth the gas, not worth the stress, and the AC in my truck is broken so i am NOT going to spend an hour and a half in that giant armored tank my dad calls a dodge just so i can pick up a box of mdoels that may have melted by the time i get home.

Seriously; OPEN A STORE IN MY ZIPCODE! And no don't just refer me to lonestar comics. Hate the bitch that is always running the store i live closest to. I may be a craven ass hole but at least my job is not in customer service. Besides i hate driving through Dallas. its ot, boring, lot of time on the highway, and did i mention its usually an hour trip IN 100* HEAT!

Want my money? Lower prices, maybe up the unit counts, make the books cheaper & sell fluff-free copies, open a store that won't crucify me for gas money just to drive to. Serious about the first and last items. feth the others just make them a few bucks cheaper & open a store i can easily reach.

Cheaper. I see no reason not to, they have an international fanbase of a million hobbyists, the least they can do is lower the price by 5$. Price is ridiculous for what you get.

I'm in the area of, if their cheaper and if I had the money. With a game and sets of miniatures as popular as GW and with such a monopoly as they have I figured they would relax a bit and give some deals. They may be awesome miniatures but the price hikes are ridiculous.

Other: if the fluff quality was improved- at the moment there's too much inconsistency and plot armour used.
Also, if they were a little cheaper and if old armies were updated.

I voted for if they were cheaper and if I had more money now because it's 30 for a squad of guardsmen.
Other: I wish I had more money and that they kept it when it was 35 for 2 squads of guardsmen and the Battleforce had the Leman Russ instead of a Sentinel and command squad (Although it was still like 35 for a squad of Space Marines so I really shouldn't complain).

Once i finish my unpainted pile

The problem is that GW thinks that they can raise prices because they are so popular, but they're scaring away new customers because of their prices and the people how are still buying (little bit at a time) are getting so infuriated by the prices and disregard of customers, not to mention that their customer base is growing ever smaller because they can't get new customers and they can't hold on to old ones. Their pretty much starving them-selfs of business because they're so greedy.
If they thought to lower their prices by even 10% (or 30%, that would be nice) They could get more customers.

Just my two cents.

If 3rd party conversion bits were embraced by GW, even if is only on a non-compete level of compatible variant products

if GW was not cutting the throat of FLGS's by restricting stock to direct only... I would totally order more sisters stuff but they wont let me order it though my FLGS, screw that I can have my FLGS get conversion bits from a 3rd party instead.

If GW went back to cycling rules with updates via chapter approved via .pdf or even campaign books... also less damn unplayable planetstrike/cityofdeff/bobsagetry... apoc is fine but should be a >3k unlock

on that topic, cant we just drop the bi-polar beta house of forgeworld and just absorb them already... they make cool stuff and lets let them take the red wig off already and join the family.

after all that, sure thing

If they were a little cheaper
If they were much cheaper (gw have to stick with the times if companies can sell 60 better quality models for £20)
If I had more money
If new armies come out (and not more stupid pathetic space marines)
If old armies were updated significantly (and properly by decent writers, not matt ward or JJ)
If production quality was improved (seriously mold lines and flash are pathetic these days, and the quality is awful)
If model/sculpt quality was improved
If there were more third party producers (forgeworld, ultraforge, pig iron, etc)
If new game systems came out (40k + fantasy = BOOOOORING)
Other (write in) (CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT DIDN'T MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE AN ASSAULT VICTIM)

Honsetly, it wouldn't take much of a price drop for me to buy more minatures. Some of these $18 finecast models being $15 would be the push to buy a little more.

If I had a source of income then I would buy more.

I think that GW's quality has always been high overall and better than most of their peer companies, but I am currently unemployed and I know of others who have had to stop purchasing models because they needed to save money for food and rent, so... if I had more money, aye. I mean, I'm at home now, and the hobby space isn't especially convenient so I don't get much done anyway, but if I had proper hobby space and some moolah, I'd be building a Guard army right fekcin' now. And I'd be green-stuffing them all to have Magneto helmets and they'd all have heavier armour and specially-woven scarves to keep the dust and storms of their home world out of their faces and everything, and I'd have a different numeral system from their seperatist-ass culture and they'd have tanks and chimeras and everything to protect them from the ridiculous GK rape-fest that's happening everywhere and I'd have a Sisters of Battle army alongside because they kick man-butt with their Girl Power and they'd be all 'Oooh, you Genestealers want to penetrate us with your implants, well look what my good friend Mr. Bolter to the face has to say about that.' and I'd have more things for my Dark Elves, and I'd have another Hydra and some more Witch Elves and Executuioners and Black Guard and some Dark Riders and Harpies to pounce of the defenders of Ulthuan because they suck, and I'd have my full 3-chapter force of Space Marines, one shooty, one assaulty and one tanky, and I'd have Eldar to spam fire dragons and war walkers and fire prisms and dire avengers with and I'd have an Empire army with their ridiculous cheap-but-effective artillery and all-heavy calvary 1+ armour army...
If I had more money, is what I'm basically getting at here...

definetely if they were a but cheaper considering wargaming isn't a cheap hobby to start with...

I put other - after playing Malifaux I've come to respect more GWs model quality (although imagination leaves a lot to be desired)

My reason for other is - I would buy more if the armies were more balanced, rather than AotM being stronger than the previous months

If they made us pay as much as the yanks or the poms I'd more than gladly buy some every month or 2.

I WANT MY PLASTIC SISTERS!

Not any more for me, I have much more interesting and varied games with historical games, that actually are decent games instead of having gimmick just to make you buy a certain army.

Games Workshop is just one big gimmick now.

Honestly, when people don't complain about the price, they are usually from Europe who basically gets the prime deal for miniature wargaming from games workshop. The prices start to get unreasonable for plastic in Canada, then even more outrageous in Austrailia (props to all you players from australia and new zealand) I'm looking at the price differences between countries, and how GW is shutting down wayland or other websites that try to balance the price difference. I believe it is a discrimination of sorts and somewhat unfair.
I've introduced warhammer 40k to my friends, but their main reply is "it's too much money for bunch of plastic" and sometimes I do agree; the kits are missing parts that we should have (as a GK player, autocannon bits are only found in Forgeworld). Seriously, if they want to give us the option, give us the parts. 3rd line companies should be where we go to 'beautify' our models, not get necessary parts to complete an army.
I honestly think that at such times of recession, raising the price on models and putting on unreasonable price tags is not going to promote people to buy them, but make some of the existing players step away from stores and switch over to more viable options rather than play GW games.

We all know what sucks about GW. I clicked all of those.

I said more money. Not really to much of an issue for me since I buy so few at a time. I also put other because there wasn't a re-release for games they had. I would love to see necromunda updated!

Can someone tell me, why is it all so expensive? I'm a teen and I have to buy it all myself. May start a new topic on this....

I just want Games Workshop to make it easier for beginners to start the hobby.

I am a returning 40k player collecting Grey Knights... To prepare my game it costs ALOT!


I want to walk in the shop (new starter) be able to buy all the appropriate tools, Paints, Base kits and some of my army at the SAME time.

Heres my problem
1. It's going to be big investment so it's scary.
2. If i could rate the basing kits I bought I would rate them 1/10 (being older now I would made a serious complaint back in the day)
3. Instant Mold - Encourage people to use this as it makes Basing more accesible i.e. Instant mold part of Imperialis Sanctum (I don't want to have limits in a sci-fi game)

So here's my solution
1. Make a Basic Kit and a Professional (upgrade kit) - Simply putting all the paints into a big box and selling it slightly cheaper is silly. Using stages and upgrade kits makes it more accesible.
2. Never buy at your local store - Do your research and find it cheaper - theres plenty of support online.
3. Instant mold in games workshop.

For me it's the money. If they reduced their prices somewhat I'm sure I would buy a lot more. It would be much easier to justify spending £30 on a few things rather than one and due to that I would spend more.

Voted for much cheaper, its not a high cost hobby per se, however the profit margins on a box of Termies has got to be huge.