The best way to know a opponent is to know what they hate fighting so lets as they say know thy foe
me personally i hate first off terminator armies, carnifexes, lictors, tyrants, land raiders, whirlwinds, bikers, assault squads, terminators, summoned deamons, defilers, berserkers, thousand sons, plauge marines, psykers, fabious bile, battle wagons, kommandoes, nobz, ogryns and just about all imperial tanks what about you
I hate gun lines. They stop your stuff from getting where it needs to go, and if you actually get to their line with something (a daemon prince, maybe?), they tend to bitch about cover saves and what not. No, you should not be able to play the game by sitting still. That MAKES NO SENSE.
TFG who must WAAC.
Even in tournaments, where competition is fierce, there is little more annoying than the TFGWAAC player. You know you are playing this person when...
* Every game phase includes an argument phase.
* When you start to win they will pout and call you names.
* They get over-excited about their toy soldiers
* Move their models a bit more than 6" each.
* Forget their own codex rules when convenient
I used to work in a net cafe where my coworker was so fat he ate food off a plate off his man titties. And he smelled like a dumpster filled with used diapers and burning hair, sitting in a ceptic tank to marinate and mature the scent. The horror!
I hate Battlecannon/S8+ ordnance weaps (is there a ordnance weap thats below S8?). When the battlecannon hits you as a marine, you might as well be guard :( Losing chunks of a squad to a single shoot sucks nuts
I hate fighting against Chaos Daemons beacuse some of them or all of them can come back a life apparently.
As Jihallah said i hate ordance weapons as well.
grr... necrons, they have only one stratagy, move forward and shoot. I have no trouble beating them, as AP 3 str 8+ weapons arn't exactly rare in the IG, but they are so... predictable.
@ Labmouse: Kudos for that... It will never be a fun game facing the TFG
@ Eldar: We have that kind of guy also, but do you have a TFG with BO in your FLGS? I did.... and boy , it was horrible.
Back to the OP's topic, what do I hate? Something that can outmanuver my army. Mech is ridiculous enough, that vehicle is not as easy to destroy, then we have to worry about that same vehicle dance around 12" (at least) every turn on the table.
I'm gonna have to go with Necrons, like Sniper said. They're the most unimaginative and tactically dry race to play, whether you're playing as them or against them. And then when they bring the Nightringer into the mix.... Suddenly I can't win unless I take half of my army as heavy weapons. (Lascannon syndrome... *shudder*)
tau_etheral wrote:The best way to know a opponent is to know what they hate fighting so lets as they say know thy foe
me personally i hate first off terminator armies, carnifexes, lictors, tyrants, land raiders, whirlwinds, bikers, assault squads, terminators, summoned deamons, defilers, berserkers, thousand sons, plauge marines, psykers, fabious bile, battle wagons, kommandoes, nobz, ogryns and just about all imperial tanks what about you
So you hate playing everything?
Warmaster wrote:I hate it when you can smell the guy's bo from across the table, that is what I hate to face.
Hahaha, that is so true! At this FLGS the owner will not let you come in and play unless you have bathed. He told me that he enacted that policy when he could smell guys as soon as they walked in and could even smell them all the way at the front of the store when they were way in the back. When people complained he justified it as protecting other customers and forcing his regulars to have proper people skills by bathing on a regular basis.
Lootas still give me fits, even though they're suppposedly nerfed now. I know I'm supposed to just ignore them, but I always wind up doing stupid things to kill them...
Also I hate facing the fluffy bunny player who thinks his battleforce army is competitive in a tournament. I'm always torn between trying to play weak so that he has fun while being smashed, or just rolling him ruthlessly. I'd much rather face a really tough army.
In casual play, I have no problem with the fluffy bunny.
I hate fighting Orks.
It seems for the past 12 years 90% of my games have been against ork players...
Would you believe I've never played against Tau or Dark Eldar army?
Ive played more games VS SQUATS than Tau and Dark Eldar combined... lol.
played against WH once or twice, and DH a like amount.
Ive only played 5 or so games vs Necrons
maybe 20 vs eldar
same for IG probly 30-40 games vs nids
Chaos Space Marines and Chaos demons ive played against more times than I can count. same with nilla marines/BA/DA/SW/BT
but orks. omg... I went to The Necronomicon this year, and my main goal was to play against some armies Ive never seen before... out of 5 games played 2 of them were vs people that were from my own game store, and 3 of them were ORKS..... (all battlewagon spam orks at that)
I dont have a problem beating orks, Space Wolves laugh at them in close combat, and I play Land Raider heavy.... so yea.
The Governator Council wrote:@ Halo, what are you talking about....... /sigh
Well what I am talking about is one of my friends collects Chaos Daemons and he showed me his codex showing that rule so ummm yeah that`s what I`m talking about.
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Book of Saint Lucius: NEVER intended to have the crushingly awesome effects it does now!
The Entire Ork Codex (Random Units, Dumb Fiction, MOB rule and BS2)
Sisters of Battle (because of faith points rules magic solutions for everything... and the book)
The whole "Vanilla Space Marine Character" concept special 'army' powers should have drawbacks and requirements, and cross chapter chars is in bad taste.
..OH AND!!!
INCOSISTENT UNITS!
How many types of rhinos are there now? How many versions of assault cannon, and machine spirit? It's the same thing, it ought to have the same rules!
Also the way special characters are done in 5e. It's not that they're unfair or unbalanced, but it feels sort if lame that EVERY SINGLE ELDAR STRIKE FORCE is led by Eldrad. And apparently the Salamanders can never, ever go into battle without Vulkan leading them personally. And so on.
The Governator Council wrote:@ Halo, what are you talking about....... /sigh
Well what I am talking about is one of my friends collects Chaos Daemons and he showed me his codex showing that rule so ummm yeah that`s what I`m talking about.
Except they don't HAVE that rule, which one are you taking about, feel no pain? Lots of armies have that. WBB? Only necrons have that? Bionics, or Iron Will? CD don't have that.
I first off hate waac armies but i just wanted to say in the 20 hours this post has been made its at two pages so thank you guys. on with the hate thread
Gotta say I hate Godzilla nid lists and Seer councils. The Seer council is just such a no-brain unit. If they're lucky enough, the unit is utterly invincible, and there's nothing they can't kill. Best I can do is have lots of small weak units and hope they can't get their points back [which is illogical now, since they never have to, and can just get kill points and contest objectives, laughing at your feeble attempts to kill them].
Nidzilla I hate because it requires so much to kill each MC. A tank you can get lucky with a meltagun and blow it up with one shot - that will NEVER happen to a MC. And when I had to invest two 10-man squads with 2 meltas each, 2 combi-meltaguns from rhinos, and a 10-man squad with 2 plasmaguns to take TWO wounds off a flyrant, I was pretty annoyed. It couldn't have been allowed to live, and in soaking so much firepower utterly ruined my plans for that turn - the game was downhill after that and I had to squeeze out the win by the skin of my teeth [my immobilized weaponless contesting rhino, that is].
If I am playing my marine bikes, I hate fighting a horde army.
Elaborate please, it seems to me bike armies would be among the best horde fighters, with 2 special weapons and twin-linked bolters, plus mobility only eldar can match, and no army, let along footsloggers, can match.
When using my necrons, any form of terminator just ruins my day. They shrug off anything and then they continue to wipe a squad a turn. Necrons just dont have the low ap guns to do it.
white_kid wrote:When using my necrons, any form of terminator just ruins my day. They shrug off anything and then they continue to wipe a squad a turn. Necrons just dont have the low ap guns to do it.
Indeed, I completely agree! (They also have NO HOPE in melee, and not enough volume of fire either!)
Land raiders. I could only force a tie last tournament against a GK player who castled in a pair of land raiders... at the 1000 point limit I just couldn't get enough high Str weapons to puncture it (and horrible dice rolling didn't help either). To make things worse, the machine spirit allowed two vehicles to target 4 separate targets, so even my footsloggers were not safe from the fusillade of fire... He would just pop off lascannon shots at my chimmies or russes and then use the h.bolters to hose my footsloggers.
As for myself, I hate it when there is no challange in the game. I've played 13 year olds at the LGS tournament (random opponent) and tabled them in 3 rounds. Not something to gloat about or be proud of, but for me there's no fun in a game like that.
youp thats what im talking about feel no pain. My blood angels space marine have it, the Death company only. Feel no pain is great thanks for correcting me Canonness Rory. =]
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Elaborate please, it seems to me bike armies would be among the best horde fighters, with 2 special weapons and twin-linked bolters, plus mobility only eldar can match, and no army, let along footsloggers, can match.
A few reasons.
* My bike army has lots of meltas, multi-meltas, and plasmas. I could trade out to be more effective when facing horde, but I don't tool my list to be specific opponents.
* TL bolters alone are not enough to kill 150 orks.
* Horde armies can blob over the objectives, preventing me from getting even withing 6" to contest.
* Part of the power of bike armies is to move to where the enemy is not, horde players can cover half the board. This does not help in getting objectives.
Jihallah wrote:I used to work in a net cafe where my coworker was so fat he ate food off a plate off his man titties. And he smelled like a dumpster filled with used diapers and burning hair, sitting in a ceptic tank to marinate and mature the scent. The horror!
Wait... Nurgle worked at a net cafe?
I hate to verse Tyranids. The reason why I'm going to start a new army that will be fun no matter how badly they smash it
I hate it when people quote the rules from your Codex verbatim with a smug look on their face as if they have just unravelled the mysteries of the universe instead of saving you ten seconds of page flicking. Oh and people who can't understand this game is played for fun.
Ed, the converse is that I hate to play against people who need to look at their codex all the time... especially multiple times for the same exact rules.
so yea, i'll quote their rules for them. because it bores me to have to wait while they look up their own armies rules.
Horst wrote:Ed, the converse is that I hate to play against people who need to look at their codex all the time... especially multiple times for the same exact rules.
so yea, i'll quote their rules for them. because it bores me to have to wait while they look up their own armies rules.
I completly agree that is highly annoying and I have no objection to people that tell you the rule to help you out because that is what experience is all about its these ****s you like to show everyone how great they are by knowing the stats of every unit in the game and say it in the sort of way that leaves you imagiing they added 'A deamon prince is WS 7 you stupid ignorant pathetic excuse for a human being.'
As a real life Army Officer that pi55es me right off.
I hate it when people quote the rules from your Codex verbatim with a smug look on their face as if they have just unravelled the mysteries of the universe instead of saving you ten seconds of page flicking. Oh and people who can't understand this game is played for fun.
Agreed, insufferable know-it-alls can kill a good gaming session.
I dont hate armies and/or units caus i find that my "hates" change drastically depending on the army i play, my horde orks are very nervous when theres news of a Russ executioner on the board, and my mech Tau utterly hate attack bikes with multy meltas, i myself dont mind either.
i do however HATE annoying players, especially (being 20 years old) the type that looks down upon younger people, i actually know a guy who tells people younger than him to "shut up" and gives them a reason thats usually on the lines of "Ive been here longer than you, OF COURSE i know better" or in case of the local online forums "im admin, what you think doesnt matter".
I also hate people who play "fluffy bunny" armies and get shocked by the fact that they were beaten by tournament proved armies. Its gotten so bad that in my local shop the tournament sequence has been split in two, one that allows any legal army, and one that bans armies that are considered "hard stuff", funny fact is that it does not only matter how the army is set up, it also matters who plays it, as was evident during the last tournament.
Another thing that annoys me is sore loosers, they dont bother me as such, but they definitely get on my nerves, the type that goes:
"Urgh, of course my army lost, i suck, Imperial guard suck, they CANT win, its just how it is, THEY-CANT-WIN"
you get the picture
Jihallah wrote:I used to work in a net cafe where my coworker was so fat he ate food off a plate off his man titties. And he smelled like a dumpster filled with used diapers and burning hair, sitting in a ceptic tank to marinate and mature the scent. The horror!
Wait... Nurgle worked at a net cafe?
Nurgle was a mere blight upon this creature. It was horrific. His nickname at one point was "Her slithering sliding ladyship Funkahontas" (the slithering sliding bit was snake references... he was a lieing git )
I see alot of hate for people who aren't familiar with their codex...as someone who got back into the hobby recently, sorry :( but hey, at least i know where 1) the summaries are and 2) where the fecking index is. Looking up rules is annoying, but don't flick through that fat son of a bitch rulebook when theres a fecking index that tells you the exact page you're looking for!
Cut and paste army lists, I can deal with the WAAC guy, he have a cut and paste army, and tries to clame its his own invention? hold me back! Im gonna jump him!!
Nightbringer. The next time my friend brings him I SWEAR IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR I WILL SMASH THAT MODEL INTO TINY PIECES.
I also dislike 2+ save Carnifexes, 2+ save Hive Tyrants and Genestealers.
GeneralRetreat wrote:My nightmares are made up of Genestealers being fired out of Railguns.
that made me laff. You win the internet.
twomas rox wrote:and for some reason i can never get rid of Dreadnaughts... My rolls seem to go against me each time i shoot at one.
I have the exact opposite problem. My dreadnoughts never stay on the table.... Top of turn 1: opponent going first,
"I shoot these lootas at your venerable dread...."
"2 hits, 1 pen, roll your obscure save.... "
"nope, only rolled a 3"
"6! its gone....."
"reroll that"
"6! its still gone!"
"Dammut!"
If the type of player is included in this thread, then I hate the condescending "old schooler" that mysteriously quotes rules that don't sound right... so when we look them up he goes "oh that must have been from a previous edition."
This player is also a master at "forgetting" to bring up rules until it serves his purpose (oh, I forgot to roll FnP for those guys that were with the Mad Dok, I'll do that now ok?) and then that player gets pissed when you tell him that too bad, its too late. He then goes on to rules lawyer at every opportunity and all you can do is grin and bear it... while marking a big fat 0 on his sportsmanship score.
Right now its 9 killa Kans + Dread in 1000pt game... that usually is hard for me to kill without specializing, especially since he also likes to field the 100+ ork shooting army half the time.
Mech. I really, REALLY hate mech to be honest. The constant need to stuff heavy weapons into anything possible is so damn AGGRIVATING. In terms of relative hate, my hate for mech is little compared to hate for things in the real world. It is just a game after all.
crazypsyko666 wrote:Mech. I really, REALLY hate mech to be honest.
Build an army designed to tool mech into the dirt. I started a biker marine army for that purpose.
It's amazing how much better you feel facing mech when your army is bristling with meltas.
crazypsyko666 wrote:Mech. I really, REALLY hate mech to be honest.
Build an army designed to tool mech into the dirt. I started a biker marine army for that purpose.
It's amazing how much better you feel facing mech when your army is bristling with meltas.
The problem is money. It's something that a teenager doesn't have much of.
34 Hours and it is at three pages. congrats. but speaking of my thread dont you hate nid armys with like 6 carnifexes... i mean seriously they should cost more
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also crasy psycho im a teenager to. try mowing lawns. i get 50.00 a yard and i do four yards a week. just freindly advice.
tau_etheral wrote:34 Hours and it is at three pages. congrats. but speaking of my thread dont you hate nid armys with like 6 carnifexes... i mean seriously they should cost more
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also crasy psycho im a teenager to. try mowing lawns. i get 50.00 a yard and i do four yards a week. just freindly advice.
Every prick in my city wouldn't trust a kid with sharp motorized objects for even a second. NO ONE touches each others lawns. It's ridiculous. Lol!
I wish there were nice old laidies who paid $50 for a lawn when I was your age!
I used to hate mechdar and 'nidzilla in 4th ed, and now that 750 point WTF spacewolf HQ squad. With 3 runepreists, and a million saves of funes, talismans, balms, banners, indipendent wound allocation, yes, I know that the army as a whole suffers from such a goofy Uber-squad, but I simply can't stop thinking about it!
Hi its the nid player at my club well back when I went 6 months without playing anyone else. He can only play 2000 points because that is exactly what he has and if we play anything else he'll have to write a list and drop some stuff!!! heck I went to a tournament just to play someone else 6 people including me and second game I just happen to fight him and while its not nidzilla I hav'nt seen him lose except his when I was having an entirely different battle and winning and he just added 2000 points of nids to my opponents army and I had used an anti MEQ army (I have so much stuff I usually make a list when I know what I am fighting does'nt work but anyway) and the worst thing is the only time I have seen him smile is when we got a massive apoc game going all my chaos all my orks and his nids against basicly everything else there and he realised he could have more upgrades than he normally does and so had a 3000 point army instead
Please excuse any spelling/grammer mistakes I cannot write properly to save my life
I hate . . . not much. Special characters because of the fluff; IF I field a special character it will be with their rules but my own name/background/etc. Maybe I'll learn to hate more once I've played more.
Tau. I can't get my marines to kill them before they get shot down. And my DP's aren't helping that much. I think I'll slap some wings on them next time
Orks annoy me.
I don't hate facing them per se, but they just annoy me because it takes absolutely no skill to make a good army and even if you suck you can still win because of the point and click nature of the codex.
And that's pretty much it. I don't enjoy playing against them, either.
GeneralRetreat wrote:I hate to face myself in the mirror every time I drop another $100 on plastic army mens.
LOL! QFT
My family call them my "dolls" or "plastic toys" and it's made even more belittling the fact that over here most of the GW stuff is only sold in Toyworld....next to the Lego and My Little Ponies....
I dont like people who rub it in when they win, or who roll amazingly wel game afer game, but thats more jealously than anything . Also, if someone knows nothing about their codex, especially if they have been playing for a while, it irritates me.
The 'Uber Shooty' army, who amazingly manage to steer clear of charging mobs of Boys, Nobz and Warbosses, and who time and time again get you in close combat despite been elfin pansies...
I don't hate anything but my Speed Freaks hate all Space Marines on principle. They really hate Termies, and really, really, hate the THSS wrecking crews in their oh so precious LRs.
I, however do think SS are underpriced. 'Course if the maddok's made 'em, I'd take them
EasyE wrote:My friend who uses an outdated Blood Angels codex, and ends up with half a dozen free assault marines.
I don't know what the pros say about the Blood Angels, but my local friend who resurrected his BA's just recently is finding the codex quite lacking. It may just be his lack of models to spam certain things with.
And you don't get the DC for free. If you compare the inflated other squad costs, the price of the DC models has to be included. They also force an HQ selection if you don't want them to be stupid.
my peeves are people who don't have or bring their rulebooks/codexes and i have to quote their codex rules for them from the store borrowed codex(and core book too)
in addition to them not calculating their army points in some visible way
I hate Ninja-Crisis suits working in tandem with Broadsides, flocking bustards chew through my footslogging slugga boyz all the time with their Dance Dance RAILGUN tactics. Add in Stealth Suits there too.
Also hate that the specific Tau player I'm talking about is such a smug bastard about the fact that only the orks he kills down to the last (never had a single thing alive in the final turn) have gotten more than 3 wounds on his whole army.
The only Space Marine player in our group hates Slugga Boyz with a passion, as these humble 6pt orks have ruined so many battles, including one notorious event where one 21 strong slugga mob wiped out 2 tactical squads, chaplain, razorback and assault marines in 4.5 turns...
We all hate him for being so horribly easy to beat (ie kiting his vindicator so it never shot in 4 turns).
I hate our only CSM player (not personally, just when 40k or D and D is involved), he's fluffy bunny up the god-damned-wahzoo. Fields Daemon prince 2 obliterators and 2X5 man CSM squads and wonders why he keeps folding when the DP takes the guaranteed crap load of fire.
Never paints his models, all second-hand off ebay, painted so he's got Iron Warriors, World Eaters, abaddon and a few Nightlords.
Worst of all he's the opposite of a sore loser; taking so many horrible losses and keeps sitting there grinning and is in no way motivated to improve his playing style or at least take something that competitive players recommend and use it appropriately. I sound bad ranting like this about him, but honest to god it is so infuriating to see someone so happy despite near-constant failure.
I also hate LRPunishers, LR-nillas and all tanks LR in general.
I've got another one. People who don't read the god damn f*cking rules. It's hard enough for a generally new player like myself to remember them all for ME, but now I need to remember them for EVERYONE?? Not fair.
waaagh!orksrocks wrote:Hi its the nid player at my club well back when I went 6 months without playing anyone else. He can only play 2000 points because that is exactly what he has and if we play anything else he'll have to write a list and drop some stuff!!! heck I went to a tournament just to play someone else 6 people including me and second game I just happen to fight him and while its not nidzilla I hav'nt seen him lose except his when I was having an entirely different battle and winning and he just added 2000 points of nids to my opponents army and I had used an anti MEQ army (I have so much stuff I usually make a list when I know what I am fighting does'nt work but anyway) and the worst thing is the only time I have seen him smile is when we got a massive apoc game going all my chaos all my orks and his nids against basicly everything else there and he realised he could have more upgrades than he normally does and so had a 3000 point army instead
Please excuse any spelling/grammer mistakes I cannot write properly to save my life
We've got a sad ass like that in my home town. He never smiles or has a laugh, soooooo super serious.
Eyclonus wrote:The only Space Marine player in our group hates Slugga Boyz with a passion, as these humble 6pt orks have ruined so many battles, including one notorious event where one 21 strong slugga mob wiped out 2 tactical squads, chaplain, razorback and assault marines in 4.5 turns...
Who would have thought a Hate Thread would bring such a warm feeling to my heart
That particular battle involved the nob wrecking his Razorback in the first turn, before he even had a turn (small board), actually the nob pretty much took out most of them. Then again he isn't to cunning in his plans, like using combat squads on the tactical units and charging orks instead of making sweet, sweet love to those ap5 bolters....
Tell me about it a guy i played at my local 
on with the hate thread
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