I was reminiscing about my first LGS experience and I remember there being many interruptions for people taking smoke breaks. Is this a common occurrence or was this just a regional thing. Inquiring minds want to know, oblige them. Feel free to justify your response.

I smoke, but during a game I try to time it at a point both of us fancy a quick break, whether to have a cigarette or get a drink.

I don't smoke. It is a ridiculous and foolish habit. It annoys me if others interrupt a game to smoke.

My opponent and I toke before playing; makes the game more enjoyable. As for smoking, I'm not a big fan of fags but imo cell phone interruptions are the worst especially if the guy is leashed by a significant other.

The larger the game the more breaks there likely will be in a casual setting, use the time as you please but get youe ass back in a timely fashion!

CUPCAKES!!!!!!!

How the feth can you afford smokes -and- gw games?

I don't mind if somebody takes a smoke-break during a game, but it needs to be approached like at the typical place of employment. 5-10 mins and only once every 2 hours.

Smoke as much as you want, though I don't. Just don't smoke in crowded areas.

I do smoke, and I do not take break during game.

I dislike when people interrupt a game (cell phone, tlk ing to friends...) often. It ok to quickly answer a call, or to say "Hi" to a relative. But sometimes, people are pushing it...

I'm alright with it in a casual game, but in a tournament, wait until your round is over and then choke down your cancer-fumes.

40k + a smoke = bliss

The 40k crowd at my FLGS is about about 30% smokers. There is a pretty much unwritten rule that when playing one of us there will be a 5-10 minute break at the end of turn 3 to step outside and smoke. It actually allows for a few minutes to rehash strategy and talk about some of the key things that went down or blaring mistakes made in the first half.

EDIT:

Tournaments are a different story. When playing in a tournament I would only break for a smoke if the guy had to go to the bathroom or had an emergency call. Only then if we were a turn or so ahead of the other games going on at the time.

I am much too poor to afford smoking as a habit in addition to GW!

I don't smoke, don't like the idea of dying from cancer.

I used to smoke and then quit and started up the wargames hobby again.

Cigarettes + Warhammer = too many expensive hobbies.

Cancer? That old wive's tale?

I like my lung's. And puffing cloud's of noxious cancer into your face is only acceptable if your rolling Nurgle!!

Yea i don't see how you can afford smoking and plastic krak at the same time....

But otherwise as long as it doesn't interfere with the game i dont mind; a few people at my FLGS smoke and it doesn't interrupt the game so I have no issue with it.

also: CUPCAKES

I don't smoke, and CUPCAKES!

With the price increases on cigarettes, mainly from ever increasing taxes, I don't understand how anyone affords it.

I've mentioned this before, but I see 40k players stop midgame all the time. Sometimes
they're just outside the store just talking crap.

Cupcakes with nicotine would solve any smoking issues gamers might have.

GW is my anti-drug. When you buy GW, how can you afford drugs?

Cane wrote:My opponent and I toke before playing; makes the game more enjoyable.

Also at the halfway point in WFB. Hoots and strategy.

I don't smoke, unlike most of the idiots at school. If I wanted to kill myself, I'd find a good cliff.

Also, cupcakes.

Non-smoker here. 40K would be my costly, addictive habit.

The smokers at my local tourneys are pretty good about limiting it to between games. Most of us are considerate like that.

There's more to smoking than a possibly early death. I don't smoke cigs, but I love a good (or gutter brand) cigar, and if nicotine doesn't make you feel a little bit better than I envy your mental state. It's a filthy disgusting habit, but a good smoke is just terrific.

That said, I'm glad I live in Ohio, where you can't smoke anywhere but you're own home or outside.

When playing casual 40k, smoke breaks are a part of life. At a tournament, have a butt while I deploy, and then deal with your addiction until the game is done. My fat ass can't go get a pizza in the middle of a game, so deal.

Most of us all know each other, and we like to smoke while we play. Since we can't smoke in the store we play at, we'll often take breaks to go out and shoot the shi-breeze and discuss tactics with each other and how the game is going.

It's a social thing.

Oh, and about the cancer:
A) If the smoking kills me before the other cancers chasing down my family tree do I will be IMPRESSED.
B) Where else are you going to get your Vitamin N, huh!?

I don't smoke, but it wouldnt bother me if my opponent wanted to break for it.

It depends really, if i play someone who doesent smoke then ill hold off all game, but if im playing another smoker im more than happy to take a mid game smoke break


Before anyone starts on the whole "smoking causes cancer" thing ill call that up as BS.
A friend of mine has just been told after a test that he has it, this is a healthy person who has never smoked, done drugs and never drank in his life (maybe the odd xmas or Bday drink)

Also on another note, anyone here who simply says its a dumb habit, people who smoke are fools: too fething right, more than likely it was the worsed mistake of my life and i regret it alot, as does everyone who smokes, for anyone here who is pondering the idea: dont bother, its a waste of your life.

Nope. Never Smoked. Never Will. And for the Cup Cakes...

CUPCAKES FOR THE CUPCAKE GOD!!!!!

(Cant believe nobody said that yet.)

I smoke a huge cigar and wear a giant hat, to help me with my morale checks.

Shotgun wrote:How the feth can you afford smokes -and- gw games?

Better question - how does that guy up top afford POT -and- GW?

I smoked from 13 to 32, gave up last year and have finally reached the stage now where I can get drunk and now not look to smoke. I had given up at 28 and it was being in the pub, drinking, that made me lose willpower and smoke again. I've now not smoked for 1 year and pretty happy about it.

That said, my 2 most common 40k opponents both smoke and I've no objection to it whilst playing as long as a window is open nearby. I hated hypocritical holier than thou exsmokers when I was a smoker and I'm not going to lecture folks now I've quit, I especially hate that weak little cough they do around someone smoking.

I had 19 years of smoking, loved it for the most part, when I realised it was leaving me breathless when I ran, I finally quit because I had chosen to do it, rather than feeling I ought to. I also found following the smoking ban in pubs that I was smoking alot less anyway.

malfred wrote:I've mentioned this before, but I see 40k players stop midgame all the time. Sometimes
they're just outside the store just taking a crap.

At least, that's how I first read your post.


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@MGS - with the money you save by not smoking, are you buying more minis?

Well all but 2 of our gaming group smoke so we just light up once in the store. We don't take breaks, we just smoke inside (as long as the owner isn't about).

If he is then we all just hold off since it would be a royal pain to go down 4 floors for a break.

I smoke,but if playing in a non-smoking situation ,I wait,sooner or later my opponent will A. want a smoke themself or B. want a quick break.
If it's a home game,light 'em up.

I do not smoke tobacco and have not gamed with anyone who does. If I were to, I would respect their lifestyle choice and allow them a reasonable amount breaks in the game much like bathroom breaks

I leave when its my opponents movement phase and go take a smoke. I am very trusting this is even in tournaments.

JD21290 wrote:Before anyone starts on the whole "smoking causes cancer" thing ill call that up as BS.

Are you really that stupid? Honestly?

Or perhaps not stupid, just painfully ignorant. The way you mentioned your friend makes that seem likeliest. You see, cancer doesn't just happen to people who do unhealthy things. It occurs when something goes catastrophically wrong with the cells in your body. Sometimes it happens to three year olds. Sometimes it happens to people who follow such a healthy regime that you'd expect them to live to two hundred? Why? Because like your friend, they were the ones who lost on that .0000001 lottery of cell division going haywire and their bodies not being able to stop it. What raises that chance up into whole numbers? Spending years introducing toxic gak into your body, like, say, the components of cigarette smoke.

So, learned something?

I no longer smoke and am very glad I quit. There are some smokers at my FLGS including both the owners. It doesn't bother me when they go out for a smoke.

Bookwrack wrote:

JD21290 wrote:Before anyone starts on the whole "smoking causes cancer" thing ill call that up as BS.

Are you really that stupid? Honestly?

Or perhaps not stupid, just painfully ignorant. The way you mentioned your friend makes that seem likeliest. You see, cancer doesn't just happen to people who do unhealthy things. It occurs when something goes catastrophically wrong with the cells in your body. Sometimes it happens to three year olds. Sometimes it happens to people who follow such a healthy regime that you'd expect them to live to two hundred? Why? Because like your friend, they were the ones who lost on that .0000001 lottery of cell division going haywire and their bodies not being able to stop it. What raises that chance up into whole numbers? Spending years introducing toxic gak into your body, like, say, the components of cigarette smoke.

So, learned something?

Using your post, I have all the evidence needed to say that smoking is not a cause of cancer. It may help it by damaging the body to cause a regrowth of cells that could go out of control, but it won't cause it.

Back on topic: the shop I play at is roughly 75% smokers, and even during casual games, they only go out to smoke in between games. I really don't mind it too much, doesn't get in the way of anything.

If you smoke, take a break, like 5-10 mins ONCE maybe twice in a game and go outside, I don't smoke and my lungs don't want to taste your fumes.

Most of the people I've gamed with over the years have been non-smokers, so it doesn't affect me much.

1. Say what you want about it not actually causing cancer, with all the crap they throw in those things it can't be good for you.

2. Don't care if you wanna smoke, just please don't stand there and blow it in my face, can't stand the smell.

CrashUSAR wrote:Using your post, I have all the evidence needed to say that smoking is not a cause of cancer. It may help it by damaging the body to cause a regrowth of cells that could go out of control, but it won't cause it.

Oh please, don't be obtuse. My post doesn't constitute the entire body of research on the subject, merely a simplified explanation to someone who has no idea how it works. If you're going to do YMDC about it, fine: An extremely elevated number of people who have no other predisposition for lung cancer but are long time smokers develop it. Ipso facto, smoking causes cancer.

We set the table up on the porch. It makes it better, with the sunlight, fresh air, mosquitoes and taking a drag as necessary.

JohnHwangDD wrote:
@MGS - with the money you save by not smoking, are you buying more minis?

I mainly smoked hand rolled tobacco smuggled illegally into the country from mainland Europe (I was living in a major fishing town until a couple of years ago), so it was never very expensive. The money I save by not smoking isn't really all that much, certainly not enough to buy a GW mini with...

Wait, people are actually contesting that smoking causes cancer?
HILARIOUS!

I don't mix cigarettes with being sober.
I don't mix Warhammer with booze (although I am dying to see if it is truly a beer and pretzels game but the flgs wouldn't be too pleased with that)

plus none of my opponent smoke, come to think about it. I had never even thought of anyone mixing the habits.

MeanGreenStompa wrote: I especially hate that weak little cough they do around someone smoking.

no offense intended to you but i love doing that around smokers, especially around the people outside shopping areas..

the trick is you gotta make it sound painful.

I don't care how hot a girl is, if I see her smoking she becomes instantly unattractive to me.

It's not a big problem where i play. You either smoke, or play. Nothing between that.

That's cool, Da Boss, I'll hit it for you.

Godspeed sir, godspeed.

I don't smoke, but i don't really have a problem with the few opponents at my club who take smoking breaks. It gives me a chance to watch how the other peoples' games are going.

Surely no one still believes smoking doesn't cause cancer. I find the highly graphic images on all packs in Australia to be very disturbing.

Da Boss wrote:I don't care how hot a girl is, if I see her smoking she becomes instantly unattractive to me.

QFT. You wouldn't believe how many of the nice-looking (but frankly stupid) girls in my school sneak out of class to smoke on the beach. Teachers aren't on duty around that area at recess and lunch, so they always get away with it.

Da Boss wrote:I don't care how hot a girl is, if I see her smoking she becomes instantly unattractive to me.

If / when a hot girl stops smoking, she'll usually gain a lot of weight and become unattractive.

Advice: stay away from long-term stuff with girls who smoke.

But they're a lot of fun in the short term if you can stand the smell of stale smoke...

Game wise, I don't mind taking a break mid game if my opponant wants to smoke/deal with the spouse/pinch a deuce or whatever. Usually casual 2000k+ games at the house require it anyway, and it lets me get a drink or use the bathroom.
It does get annoying when is every 30 minutes though. I personally think that agreeing to a game is agreeing to pay attention and focus on the game for 2-3 hours. Not being able to commit to that is sort of a deal breaker for me, with minor exception.

As to women smoking, I gotta agree it is a big turn off in general. A little smoking here and there is acceptable (and sometimes that second hand lip tingle from making out with a girl with nicotine residue is sexy) but it isn't a long term sort of thing as John pointed out. They either quit and get fat, or don't quit and look like Clint Eastwood at 40. Best case scenario they take good care of their skin, but still have a smokey stink and stained teeth.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Da Boss wrote:I don't care how hot a girl is, if I see her smoking she becomes instantly unattractive to me.

If / when a hot girl stops smoking, she'll usually gain a lot of weight and become unattractive.

Advice: stay away from long-term stuff with girls who smoke.

But they're a lot of fun in the short term if you can stand the smell of stale smoke...

I think in this line of work, we're lucky if they can stand the smell of the gamer.

Stench of the gamer.
But yeah, it's the smell and taste that disgust me.

Wehrkind wrote:As to women smoking, I gotta agree it is a big turn off in general. A little smoking here and there is acceptable (and sometimes that second hand lip tingle from making out with a girl with nicotine residue is sexy) but it isn't a long term sort of thing as John pointed out. They either quit and get fat, or don't quit and look like Clint Eastwood at 40. Best case scenario they take good care of their skin, but still have a smokey stink and stained teeth.

Tho in Cali, a lot of girls also tan year round.

I think a lot of them are going to have skin like saddlebag leathers when they get old.

Wanna have fun with a smoker? I ask smokers this all the time, and have never gotten anything resembling an intelligent answer in return:

"When your house is on fire, what are you supposed to do? Get out of the house, and STAY OUT OF THE SMOKE. The smoke can KILL YOU. Why would you then WILLINGLY light something on fire to INHALE SMOKE?"

*Enjoy stupid expression on target face*

Mattlov wrote:Wanna have fun with a smoker? I ask smokers this all the time, and have never gotten anything resembling an intelligent answer in return:

"When your house is on fire, what are you supposed to do? Get out of the house, and STAY OUT OF THE SMOKE. The smoke can KILL YOU. Why would you then WILLINGLY light something on fire to INHALE SMOKE?"

*Enjoy stupid expression on target face*

By that logic, we shouldn't drink water. If you end up in water, you will drown. Why would anyone willingly risk drowning?

Mattlov wrote:Wanna have fun with a smoker? I ask smokers this all the time, and have never gotten anything resembling an intelligent answer in return:

"When your house is on fire, what are you supposed to do? Get out of the house, and STAY OUT OF THE SMOKE. The smoke can KILL YOU. Why would you then WILLINGLY light something on fire to INHALE SMOKE?"

*Enjoy stupid expression on target face*

Well,that's a bit extreme,the chemicales I inhale when I smoke are far less toxic than what I would be inhaling in your average house fire,if not I would have died ages ago,not that I'm saying my smoking habbit is healthy mind you,I just find with every cigarette I light the urge to beat someone into a quivering pulp goes away for a while.

JD21290 wrote:It depends really, if i play someone who doesent smoke then ill hold off all game, but if im playing another smoker im more than happy to take a mid game smoke break


Before anyone starts on the whole "smoking causes cancer" thing ill call that up as BS.
A friend of mine has just been told after a test that he has it, this is a healthy person who has never smoked, done drugs and never drank in his life (maybe the odd xmas or Bday drink)

Also on another note, anyone here who simply says its a dumb habit, people who smoke are fools: too fething right, more than likely it was the worsed mistake of my life and i regret it alot, as does everyone who smokes, for anyone here who is pondering the idea: dont bother, its a waste of your life.

I think that says pretty much exactly what I was going to say.

Protip: Whether you smoke or not you will die. Even if you never get a single whiff of smoke, you are still going to die. I don't advocate doing it for a lot of reasons, but because it (might) kill you isn't one of them.

Don't smoke (also CUPCAEKS!!), but I've never had a big problem with my opponents smoking. I have played addicts before, however, who feel the need to light up after every fething turn. Which wouldn't be a problem if they could smoke at the table, but jetting off for 5-10 minutes each turn makes the game just drag.

Gets on my last nerve, and I won't play someone so damn extreme again.

Polonius wrote:

Mattlov wrote:Wanna have fun with a smoker? I ask smokers this all the time, and have never gotten anything resembling an intelligent answer in return:

"When your house is on fire, what are you supposed to do? Get out of the house, and STAY OUT OF THE SMOKE. The smoke can KILL YOU. Why would you then WILLINGLY light something on fire to INHALE SMOKE?"

*Enjoy stupid expression on target face*

By that logic, we shouldn't drink water. If you end up in water, you will drown. Why would anyone willingly risk drowning?

No, by that logic you shouldn't BREATHE water. NOT drinking water will kill you too, it just takes a little longer.

In the end, it doesn't matter. Being healthy is simply dying at a slightly slower rate. Life is terminal in all known cases.

Gutteridge wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote: I especially hate that weak little cough they do around someone smoking.

no offense intended to you but i love doing that around smokers, especially around the people outside shopping areas..

the trick is you gotta make it sound painful.

LOL around my group it just makes you sound weak, and triggers the attack reflex.... you get covered in exhaled cigarette smoke until you and your pathetic little cough go away. ESPECIALLY if you're outside..... take a fething walk away from the designated smoking area.


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Mattlov wrote:Wanna have fun with a smoker? I ask smokers this all the time, and have never gotten anything resembling an intelligent answer in return:

"When your house is on fire, what are you supposed to do? Get out of the house, and STAY OUT OF THE SMOKE. The smoke can KILL YOU. Why would you then WILLINGLY light something on fire to INHALE SMOKE?"

*Enjoy stupid expression on target face*

In return, I ask you good sir:

"When the dog is obviously foul tempered and known to bite, why would you tease it?"

"I normally like to poke bears, and that dog is much smaller than the bear I usually poke."

Bookwrack wrote:Oh please, don't be obtuse. My post doesn't constitute the entire body of research on the subject, merely a simplified explanation to someone who has no idea how it works. If you're going to do YMDC about it, fine: An extremely elevated number of people who have no other predisposition for lung cancer but are long time smokers develop it. Ipso facto, smoking causes cancer.

Very excellent word usage.

Are you...
A) a doctor?
B) a frequent watcher of The Shawshank Redemption?
C) an owner of a Word-of-the-Day Calander?


BTW, really do like the post. I wish I could see the face of some of the people reading it, checking a Dictionary or Wiki at every third word

Lordhat wrote:"When the dog is obviously foul tempered and known to bite, why would you tease it?"

Because people are idiots.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Wehrkind wrote:As to women smoking, I gotta agree it is a big turn off in general. A little smoking here and there is acceptable (and sometimes that second hand lip tingle from making out with a girl with nicotine residue is sexy) but it isn't a long term sort of thing as John pointed out. They either quit and get fat, or don't quit and look like Clint Eastwood at 40. Best case scenario they take good care of their skin, but still have a smokey stink and stained teeth.

Tho in Cali, a lot of girls also tan year round.

I think a lot of them are going to have skin like saddlebag leathers when they get old.

So... Saddle up?

Hey, it's the Wild, Wild West!

JediRaptor wrote:

Bookwrack wrote:Oh please, don't be obtuse. My post doesn't constitute the entire body of research on the subject, merely a simplified explanation to someone who has no idea how it works. If you're going to do YMDC about it, fine: An extremely elevated number of people who have no other predisposition for lung cancer but are long time smokers develop it. Ipso facto, smoking causes cancer.

Very excellent word usage.

Are you...
A) a doctor?
B) a frequent watcher of The Shawshank Redemption?
C) an owner of a Word-of-the-Day Calander?


BTW, really do like the post. I wish I could see the face of some of the people reading it, checking a Dictionary or Wiki at every third word

Actually I think he was using the technical terms for two things.
A) Lending weight to his arguement as its hard to argue with scientific or flowery language.
and B) (to use the vernacular) 'Getting one over' his opponent as it makes it appear that in contrast to him the other guy knows little.

That said I totally agree with the points he makes. There is Scientific and statistical evidence for smoking increasing the risk of cancer where as the other side has to rely on that old favourite of the ignorant Anecdotel evidence. Woooooo. So your Grandpa/Aunty Mable smoked all their life and ended up dying peacefully at 80. Good for her. He/she is a statistical minority. The thing is, as was explained pretty well by Bookwrack, cancer is a risk. Smoking has been linked to increasing that risk.

Aside from that I fully support freedom of choice and even recognise that smoking can in certain situations be a way of reliving stress and pain as well as a social tool.

Wooo for the amount of hypocrasy in this post

For some reason asians think its cool to smoke . So it went something like this:
me: why are you smoking? does it taste good?
friend: no , makes me look cool
me: but i dont think you are cool at all
friend: ... try one , its chocolate cigar
me: ...... real chocolate taste better , less expensive , and doesnt give cancer.

Smoke breaks bother me less than cell converations.

I like smoked salmon alot though

LunaHound wrote:I like smoked salmon alot though

Salmon is for wusses, try some good lobster instead.

Cheese Elemental wrote:

LunaHound wrote:I like smoked salmon alot though

Salmon is for wusses, try some good lobster instead.

No , this is smoking thread, thus smoked salmon.
Lobster is for wusses , try lobster sashimi instead , while it still moves ( i have , but too mean so just once )

it makes me happy that my serious thread about cupcakes has worked..

Also I smoke, but I wouldn't interrrupt a game to do it. But when I play in my garage, me and my friend smoke when its the other guys turn..

ALSO if someone interuppts the game Ill go smoke.


EDIT yes smoking is bad so is cola grog and junk food.. yet you never see such demonising of these things. Also to the guy that coughs ppainfully , I dont get it, why would I care if your coughing?

GUILT makes you die.

LunaHound wrote:
For some reason asians think its cool to smoke .

I love stereotypes!

I don't smoke, but I don't mind if my opponent asks for a quick smoke break. I'll just grab a drink and plan out my next turn.

Lobster sashimi? That sounds... gooey.

I am surprised at how many non-smokers there are in here.

A lot of people will be too young to smoke yet, myself included, but if my opponent asked I wouldn't have any problem with it. They're not my lungs.

Never had the issue at my place. But if it does come up i'd want them to take it outside for a break.

I don't really have a problem with smoking at all, but honestly, "I'm going to die anyway" is a horrible way to excuse it.

Like I said though, I don't give a gak, so long as you're honest about it and admit that you just like smoking that's good enough for me, but I don't want to hear bs like "We're all gonna die anyway so why not?"

MinMax wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
For some reason asians think its cool to smoke .

I love stereotypes!

Perhaps, but you may want to ask about Luna's ethnicity...

Smoking is cool. It's just too much like hard work for some people. Bunch of quitters...

Only one of the guys in our group smokes, and does so outside, so it doesn't affect the rest of us.

Lets sum up the thread so we can move on the topic...


"I call BS on all of the smoking/cancer statistics"

"But there is scientific proof that smoking increases your chances for getting cancer. Not only that, even if you don't get cancer you will suffer long-term effects in the form of heart disease, emphysema and other ailments."

"Whatever, I had one healthy friend that had a heart attack anyways. Ran every day. Uncle Frank however, drinks a gallon of Pabst every night and smokes two packs a day...still kicking"

"Well, anecdotal evidence isn't really a good basis to form ideas on. Statistics clearly show that those instances are a great minority when compared to the risk factors mentioned before."

"Well, you keep your statistics. I'm going to live life and not worry about increasing our decreasing my percentage of dying by bits....why walk outdoors!? It's dangerous!"

"True but there is a line you cross where the statistics move from 'Asteroid falling on my head' to realistic risks...I mean why not do crack cocaine and bang hookers? It's just a statistical risk."

"Well it makes me feel good, so the small risk is worth it."

"Actually, you've trained your body to feel bad when you don't get it. That would go away however and isn't worth the risk."

"Well, my Uncle Frank...."

Repeat ad nauseum

About the time most took up smoking I took up wargaming I could afford one or the other and decided to take the more lasting less bodily damaging one. Oddly enough I find I either spend on booze or toy soldiers and lately I've cut back a lot on booze!

I used to smoke pretty heavily particularly when playing. That was in the 80s when smoking was a lot more common than now. I gave it up for health reasons and found out how irritating to the eyes the smoke of other players is.

I don't think any available public venue in the UK could legally allow smoking inside, but you could smoke in a private house if the owner allowed it.

I smoke, but I go out of my way to insure I don't bother others with it. It's part of the social terrain in California, riots can break out if you smoke in the wrong places.

When playing warhamms, I usually only take one break during games unless I'm playing apocalypse, in which case I go during opponents movement phase.

What's funny is I recently switched to an E-cig, I got a bad-ass prodigy with all the trimmings, and it's still not enough for the smoking crowd. It doesn't smell, there's no smoke what so ever, and I still go outside to use it even though I'm just exhaling water vapor. People still feel they have the right to tell me its bad for me, and use it as an excuse to feel superior, even though I am not harming or bothering them in any way. (even my clothes don't stink anymore.)

I would like to point out to all the non-smokers that when you tell smokers its bad for them, you NEVER sound like your concerned for the smokers health. With the exception of close friends and family, non-smokers bitching about my smoking are just telling me they're better than me, In their not-so-humble opinion.

Non-smokers complaining is not without its merits though. The second someone launches into their own personal tirade about how awful I am for smoking, it lets me know they are a person who feels they should have dominion over me, and gives me the ability to react accordingly.

I don't smoke either. One of the reasons is that I'm underaged (well that doesn't seem to be problem if you watch at the other teens), because I don't want to, my gaming club doesn't allow smoking (smokers get banned or something like that, because it's designed for 13-22 years old) and mainly because I wouldn't have money on my dear minis. Which would you rather have, 4 box (or whatever those 20 cigarette things are called) or one 30 euros costing box of minis?

I never said that smoking won't increase the chances of getting cancer, I just said that smoking is not a sure-fire way to get cancer. There's only four direct causes of cancer, and smoking is one of them...however you can throw this statement out if you please as I can only recall two of them off the top of my head...

For the record, I totally agree it's terrible for your health and I've known plenty of smokers with and without health complications.

Back when I played more, the group I played with followed the "Respect the Rules of the Home" approach :

At my place, we played in the garage, so the ruling was "Puff & Play", whilst a friend's mother hated people smoking in the house, so the rule was "Smoke-Break outside at mid-point, and for the post game analysis". We never smoked in public arenas though, at GW or FLGSs for example, but that was before the current legislation.

As for the Smoking=Cancer debate, my own position is that smoking MAY be a catalyst, but is NOT a sole cause.

Either way, it is something I indulge in, but do not encourage in others. To my kids, I express it as "learn from my mistake and don't start"

As for the idiots who try to guilt me with their feeble cough, give up. As long as I smoke in an area where it is within the law I'm within my rights. If you don't want to breathe it, walk away because I have as much right to stand there as you.

LordHat : I salute your group's "smoke-em-out" policy to those idoits, perhaps it might just kill them off !

I'm not a smoker, but I don't mind allowing my opponents to take a smoke break. Gives me time to look the table over good and game-plan. And I agree with people that it their body and they can do whatever they want to it.

BTW smoking causes cancer because of the chemicals and additives in the smoke and tar. Tar, is the cancer-causing agent in cigarette smoke. Tar is made up of thousands of chemicals, and I'm pretty sure about 40 of them are PROVEN, without a doubt, to cause cancer. Same stuff happens with chewing tobacco, I'll bet that none of you have seen a man with no lower jaw.

Never smoked a cigarette, never will.

Outside of a timed/tourney game all sorts of random breaks come up. And during one, none of them do.

kirsanth wrote:Never smoked a cigarette, never will.

But you want to be one of the cool kids don't you?


I always enjoy hearing teens/underage smokers make far reaching life decisions and proclaim wisdom with little life experience. If I had a dollar for each person I went to High School with that was 'never going to smoke' and than ended up smoking, I'd have enough for a carton of cigarettes.

I am 32. A bit past worrying about the cool kids.

Not enough options here. You need another that says, "Yes, but only when it won't interrupt games." I am a smoker and I would only go out for a smoke during a game if it wouldn't inconvenience the opponent. Most often, this occurrs only in multi-player games (ex: 3v3 or more) or Apoc where my hopping out for 5 minutes won't affect anyone or anything. Like, in the opponent's movement phase.



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I quit smoking and have since grown very disgusted by the smell of cigarette smoke. I feel it very disrespectful of other players that do not smoke if you smoke during play. Even after a smoke break, the smell still exudes from your clothes. So, I say no smoking especially in a gaming environment where children are often present.

kirsanth wrote:
I am 32. A bit past worrying about the cool kids.

What made you think that was to you? I just thought you should be one of the cool kids. You become Asain (apparently), get an 89 Camaro, and a wife beater once you do.

I enjoy my smoky treats but when i game i game from start to finish. The smoke can wait till after the game. I chew gum or put snus in to help control any cravings i may have/

Warlord Imp wrote:I quit smoking and have since grown very disgusted by the smell of cigarette smoke. I feel it very disrespectful of other players that do not smoke if you smoke during play. Even after a smoke break, the smell still exudes from your clothes. So, I say no smoking especially in a gaming environment where children are often present.

So because the smell of smoke has personal connotations with you, I'm now being disrespectful when I even just WALK around you? I ask because it seems you don't even want us smoking BEFORE we play you. You mention children, so let me just go ahead and ask, what are the health risks for smelling someone who smoked five minutes ago? What "third hand smoke" studies are you citing here, specifically? If you didn't mean anything about a health risk for the kids, why did you mention them? How are smokers hurting children by being around them after they have smoked?

If you want to start a discussion about smells you don't care for in a gaming store, I'm all for it. Just let us smokers take stabs at the non-bathers and too-much-aftershave gamers to level the playing field, I'd love to act holier-than-tho for once.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I smoked from 13 to 32, gave up last year and have finally reached the stage now where I can get drunk and now not look to smoke. I had given up at 28 and it was being in the pub, drinking, that made me lose willpower and smoke again. I've now not smoked for 1 year and pretty happy about it.

That said, my 2 most common 40k opponents both smoke and I've no objection to it whilst playing as long as a window is open nearby. I hated hypocritical holier than thou exsmokers when I was a smoker and I'm not going to lecture folks now I've quit, I especially hate that weak little cough they do around someone smoking.

I had 19 years of smoking, loved it for the most part, when I realised it was leaving me breathless when I ran, I finally quit because I had chosen to do it, rather than feeling I ought to. I also found following the smoking ban in pubs that I was smoking alot less anyway.

Pretty much my story, I started at 11. Hehe, I had to quit drinking before I quit smoking, and I couldn't drink for a couple of years because I knew I would get loaded and start smoking again. It's been a few years, and I'm back to getting sloshed and loving it!

With the money I saved in the first month and a half of quitting smoking, I went on a trip to California. 2.5 packs a day of Marlboros. Ridiculous.

Never will I be convinced to smoke, but I guess that if I would let them smoke as long as it is at the end of a his/her turn. After all the game takes a lot of standing and concentration, so a little five minute break to gather my thoughts and observe the table while they are outside is enjoyable.

Like most things in a game store there is a polite way to do it and an impolite way.

ahtmans got a point.

I remeber at work a girl gave always harped on my smoking.. 6 months later I caught her smoking..

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When playing casual 40k, smoke breaks are a part of life. At a tournament, have a butt while I deploy, and then deal with your addiction until the game is done. My fat ass can't go get a pizza in the middle of a game, so deal.

There aren't many smokers at my FLGS so I don't have to deal with it. Usually smokers wait until the game is over.

Cane wrote:My opponent and I toke before playing; makes the game more enjoyable.

Same here. However it usually makes the game take longer.