Railguns wrote:

Not to disrespect the OP, but would it be a good idea to have a stickied "The Upcoming Release Schedule, As We Know It" topic that updates when we find these things out, so that we don't have to have new release schedule questions every week?

Well, whilst reading another post 'Railguns' came up with the popular idea of creating a release schedule for all to look at and for people to update when they know something relevant. So, as no-one else decided to make aforementioned release schedule post I figured I'd do it, so here it is:

So basically update this post when you know extra information about the release schedule...

thanks...

here is the release schedule as I know it (after gathering info off the response's in the thread - I'm being "most convenient" by doing this apparently so...). I will try to update this when ever I remember etc. (probably weekly or less!)

- IG Heroes, Sept, then:
- Space Wolves, Oct, then:
- Skaven, Nov, then:
- Tyranids, January

strong likely-hood of:
-Beasts of Chaos, Q1 2010
-Necrons, Q1 2011
-Blood Angels, 2010
-Dark Eldar, 2009/2010

thanx dude i love ig

and i love people saying thanks!

Thanks.

IG Heroes: Are these the Special Character Gunny and CPT models or something else entirely?

just Harker and Straken, who will be out this weekend, and then straight on to Space Puppies (as far as i know)...

we know of the clanrats for skaven, but i haven't seen anything else leaked for the fuzzy buggers yet...

cheers
jah

As I write this I also have a separate window/tab with an article on the games-workshop site by Adam Troke, who is talking about the new Skaven coming out in november so...

the article says:

This November, the Skaven are being set loose, with a 112-page army book packed full of detailed background, lavish artwork and all the rules you'll need to unleash the Skaven on the battlefield. Of course, there's also a dazzling array of fantastic new miniatures on their way too, including stunning multi-part plastic kits and finely detailed metal miniatures.

As we know it:
Oct: Space Wolves
Nov: Skaven.

As we are fairly sure:
Feb: Tyranids.
Mar: Beasts of Chaos.

As are heavily rumoured:
2010: Blood Angels, Tomb Kings, Fantasy Battle Summer Campaign (models for everyone), Dark Eldar.

Two new IG tank commanders are supposed to be released this month along with three old ones as announced in the WD.

jah-joshua wrote:we know of the clanrats for skaven, but i haven't seen anything else leaked for the fuzzy buggers yet...

Box of 20 clanrats/slaves.
Box of 20 plastic stormvermin
New Doomwheel model
New Plague Furnace/screaming bell/war machine kit
Few odd metal characters-- sniktch ( sp ?) gets a new mini.


Beasts of chaos ARE after Skaven fantasy wise. I'd think that people shouldn't have too many beefs with stuff planned for that hopefully.

I've heard nothing about Blood Angels and I'll be suprised to see Dark Eldar before this time next year.

The rest sound about right though.

Well done.

Elric of Grans wrote:As we know it:
Oct: Space Wolves
Nov: Skaven.

As we are fairly sure:
Feb: Tyranids.
Mar: Beasts of Chaos.

As are heavily rumoured:
2010: Blood Angels, Tomb Kings, Fantasy Battle Summer Campaign (models for everyone), Dark Eldar.

sweet the blood angel dex is garbage.

Blood angels rumor was fueled by Space Hulk. But i do think it will be the next space marine codex, and since GW like to release a space marine codex about every year, then BA is the one thats needs to most help.

Blood Angels, Black Templars and Grey Knights are all rumoured to be currently in development (on the Marine front). I would suggest Grey Knights of Blood Angels are probably both before Black Templars, but the rumours swing closer to Blood Angels (sadly).

Any word on Damien the Daemon Prince?


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Blood ANgels don't need a codex! Just use Ultramarines with Shrike!

Lost and Damned need a codex! Lost and damned! Lost and DAMNED!

Blood ANgels don't need a codex! Just use Ultramarines with Shrike!

Lost and Damned need a codex! Lost and damned! Lost and DAMNED!

The current BA codex is a cheap joke that GW made. And ultramarines with shrike dont have dante or mephiston or corbulo or tycho or lamartes or death company or furioso or ball pred of assault squads as troops........or or or or or or or or. Space wolves make the BA codex useless...

Just use the Chaos Codex to rep Blood Angels.

Duh!

And IG for Tau! Yeah!!!!!!

Anything on my Orcs and Goblins?

Would it be possible to collate the changes at the end of the week and change the original post of this thread to show it so it wouldn't be necessary to read through the thread? That would be the most convenient. (Thanks for doing this)

So with Space wolves, Nids, Blood Angles and Templars, and even grey knights getting a rework, have Necrons been put on the backburner? ANy new word on them? or have they really been bumped back 2 more years?

He who has been seen, cannot be unseen. I see you, extrenm(54).

I'm looking forward to the new Beasts stuff. Maybe a split between Gors and Ungors.(?) Beside the schedule, are there any rumours for this army that have found their way onto the internet?

Necron are also in the works. They were started after Grey Knights, but before Black Templars/Blood Angels. That does not mean the release will go in that order --- some armies need more work than others --- but they are on the way. Necron will be late 2010, at the earliest; first half of 2011 is a more realistic estimate. Sisters are also known to be in the works, and they were started before Grey Knights, but there has been less said about them than any of the others.

reds8n wrote:
Few odd metal characters-- sniktch ( sp ?) gets a new mini.

One of the few ancient GW miniatures that most certainly does not need an update

Mention of a Summer Fantasy Campaign sounds cool (must finish Empire army).

Liquidice281 wrote:

Blood ANgels don't need a codex!

The current BA codex is a cheap joke that GW made.

It's cheap, but it's better than the UM. It's also the only Marine Codex with JPs as Troops.

If people are right and the Tau get a new release some time in the next 18 months, then I suspect Brettonia to be before then.

Dark eldar so need a new codex. Not that their units are poor but they could do with abit more background info like the other races imo. New units would be a bonus aswell (just for diversity). A new nid codex would be cool but if i had to choose between which would be released i'd select dark eldar because the poor souls need abit of a pickup. I mean, they must be feeling left out!

@ Elric- Do you have any links to substantiate DH in the works? Not calling you out or anything. You're just the only person I've seen to say they are currently being worked on.

I think there's a lot of wishlisting after Feb (Nids)

Where did the rumor about BA coming out in 2010 come from? Space Hulk? That's barely convincing to me.

I imagine the Blood Angels rumour was a result of Space Hulk, the fact they need a new codex really quite badly and that there are currently no other Space Marines codices on the go and they would be the next logical one i reckons...
Its all rumour so far though, however it is a likely and very believable rumour so...

There's also a post that GW has pulled BA stuff from shops and the ordering system. That's usually a sign.

Which is ridiculous since anyone can make a perfectly good BA force using Shrike and UMs.

Actually last week my local GW store got an email saying that they wont be recieving any new tyranid boxes or battleforces. The race is very popular there and its the only reason i can see for them to stop supplying tyranids. Also blood angels have been direct order at my store since it opened 3 years ago..

On the other note, the blackshirt at the store said he would bet a pretty penny on necrons since their the most broken army in the game ( i havn't seen a necron army play in 8 months)

And kid stope saying you can make blood angels with shrike!! you get no DC no assault squads as troops, no baal preds, no furioso dreds, and no dante!

Well, that makes sense, doesn't it? "Tyranids are pretty popular here and sell very well, so we should STOP SELLING THEM!"

If only they'd do that with Marines.

Anyway, I doubt it has much to do with your store in particular, since you can't buy Tyranid codices/battleforces online, either.

Sidstyler wrote:Well, that makes sense, doesn't it? "Tyranids are pretty popular here and sell very well, so we should STOP SELLING THEM!"

I think it was redsun who said not long ago that GW sometimes seems to have a great fear of making money. Situations like this really highlight that.

Flagg07 wrote:@ Elric- Do you have any links to substantiate DH in the works? Not calling you out or anything. You're just the only person I've seen to say they are currently being worked on.

Check Warseer or Bolter and Chainsword; this is pretty old news. Phil Kelly confirmed at a Games Day earlier this year he was working on them after finishing Space Wolves. He also dropped the hint that he will be giving them Jump Packs.

EDIT: added quote.

Elric of Grans wrote:

Flagg07 wrote:@ Elric- Do you have any links to substantiate DH in the works? Not calling you out or anything. You're just the only person I've seen to say they are currently being worked on.

Check Warseer or Bolter and Chainsword; this is pretty old news. Phil Kelly confirmed at a Games Day earlier this year he was working on them after finishing Space Wolves. He also dropped the hint that he will be giving them Jump Packs.

EDIT: added quote.

JP on GK?!?! *drools*
i hope your right ive been playing DH since i started and they really need a new codex

extrenm(54) wrote:So with Space wolves, Nids, Blood Angles and Templars, and even grey knights getting a rework, have Necrons been put on the backburner? ANy new word on them? or have they really been bumped back 2 more years?

Templars DO NOT need a new dex, tbf they don't need any kind of dex, they're just background, the most they need is to be one of four lists in a campain book, only problem is that GW tends to stop supporting campain books.....

So are necrons really on the back burner till 2011?

tiekwando wrote:So are necrons really on the back burner till 2011?

Jeez! thats -ed up! necrons need a new dex as bad as DH if not more! It makes no sense to me that they would redo nids before crons. it seems like we just got a new nids dex. The only out of date rule i can think of is thornback. DE need a faccelift pretty bad too. Much more so than nids.

There is solid mention of Beasts of Chaos in this months White Dwarf.

Side panel mentions the studio singing 'if you go down to the woods today'. Teaser in the same vein as the ones on Space Wolves and Skaven. So I would guess maybe January/February?

Thanks Mad Doc, appreciate the update, I'll add it to the original post...

Oooooh does this mean that the new White Dwarf is out?

Not yet, but we staff get a free copy every month.

awww jammy bugger! and I collect Space Wolves and everything!

Is not a bad issue either.

Lots on Space Wolves, new stuff for LotR (mainly Easterlings) and an article I am yet to read about the application of Special Characters in Fantasy.

MDG,
Do they show the SW Terminator sprue by any chance?

Nope, but there is a breakdown of the Wolf Pack sprues.

Later on, they have an article about the Studio's favourite Terrain pieces, including a rather nifty Skaven Warlock's Tower, which they promise to go into more in the next issue.....Quite looking forward to that, as apart from the contraption on the top, it all looks fairly straight forward.

Thanks, MDG. Good to hear about Beasts of Chaos getting teased for (what I would assume to be) January.

Are all the studio's favourite terrain pieces made from Official Games Workshop Terrain?

And really, there's an article talking up special characters? What a freakin' surprise.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Just use the Chaos Codex to rep Blood Angels.

Duh!

On a serious note, looking forward to what they are doing with Tyranids, my wife hasn't played them in months due to the codex not preforming against my CSM, now Orks.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Just use the Chaos Codex to rep Blood Angels.

Duh!

On a serious note, looking forward to what they are doing with Tyranids, my wife hasn't played them in months due to the codex not preforming against my CSM, now Orks.

ROFL!!!! OMFG! WIZARDS PRINT THIS CARD NOW!! im gonna wet me'self!

I have a feeling that the release shedule beyond beasts may become more clear after games day UK (1 week away)...

Templars was such a bad idea for a dex.. Its the last thing the game needed.. IE more stuff theyll never update in a timely manner

Actually, from a models standpoint, properly Knightly Space Marines are a concept well overdue.

I really like Black templars, my favorite SM army by far. but seeing as they just gave us SW, they can stick BT on the back burner for a bit. Crons and DE and inq deserve a new codex more.

I agree.. My objection is due to GWs inability to produce books fast enough

Kirasu wrote:Templars was such a bad idea for a dex.. Its the last thing the game needed.. IE more stuff theyll never update in a timely manner

The Black Templar Codex is perfect example of perceived sales driving the Codex design process and the design lag within the dev team. Templars were powerful in Codex: Armageddon.

The bean-counters no doubt saw this, so an entire Codex was commissioned for them including a whole new upgrade sprue, plus an expensive 'let's try to be like Forge World' sprue with vehicle doors for Rhinos and Land Raiders.

Graham McNeil then writes the Codex, but it's not as unbalanced as the Armageddon version, and it makes some pretty large rules changes, often the complete opposite of the previous list. Moreover, it's 4th Ed now, not 3rd, so the power that they once had has changed anyway, so the army the bean counters wanted to keep selling (3rd Ed Templars) doesn't even exist any more!

End result? The Codex is essentially a flop, GW puts loads of money into making a Land Raider and Rhino door sprue (something they haven't done since, instead going with the far more sensible icons to stick on doors) and McNeil's gets canned as a Codex writer and now writes BL books only.

Is it any wonder this one hasn't been updated yet?

HBMC:

You spend WAY too much time thinking 40k

Yeah, Beasts are first quarter. Tomb Kings are the most probable to come out after them. There are vague rumours of Bretonnia after that, though I am calling `wish-listing' on these. Then again, I said Nids were wish-listing three months ago...

Necron are an outside chance for last quarter of 2010, but they only started them about four months ago, and an average Codex take 18-24 months to go from `we will do this' to `we are in your White Dwarf, emptying your wallet'. Plan on them for first quarter 2011 and if they come earlier, you will be pleasantly surprised. Besides, we all know someone will have to be bumped up so that Dark Eldar's `next year' can be pushed to 2011

Liquidice281 wrote:

And kid stope saying you can make blood angels with shrike!! you get no DC no assault squads as troops, no baal preds, no furioso dreads, and no dante!

For Death Company just use Legion of the Darned, for Dante use Shrike and for Assualt Squads just use FA assualt squads and Vanguard. You get 6 JP units that way. Really this ain't rocket science.

But as HBMC pointed out the Chaos dex might be better.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Actually, from a models standpoint, properly Knightly Space Marines are a concept well overdue.

I think from a models standpoint, BTs look exactly like every other SM army.
Grey Knights are much more properly knightly imo, and they are actually distinguishable from regular SMs.

Not with the wrist bolters, they're not. Templars have the nice tabards and Mk.2 helms - they're awesome.

If you combined Dark Angels as seen in concept art, Grey Knights, and Black Templars, you would get an awesome army.

One thing I can tell you is that there will supposedly be new "gifty" type items in December as there has been for the past few years. However, I have not had a good tip on what those items are yet. Last year we got the bags for carrying hobby supplies and figure cases. Does anyone have a good lead on what specialty items they'll be releasing this coming December?

BrassScorpion wrote:Last year we got the bags for carrying hobby supplies and figure cases.

And weren't they useful. Super-expensive bags to carry your other bags in. The guy in marketing who came up with that probably got a raise, right alongside the guy who thought up the citadel paint pallet and the citadel water cup.

In light of that I'm putting my money on the Citadel Painting Chair and the Realm of Painting Painting Board, hard plastic 6 piece board that costs AUD$400 and is a great painting and cutting surface.

I didn't buy the carry bags from last year either. They look cool, but it's not something I really needed at all. I already have the Apocalypse backpack, a cooler item for my taste. I am still interested in seeing what they came up with for this year.

BrassScorpion wrote:I didn't buy the carry bags from last year either.

I don't imagine a lot of people did. Pretty ridiculous cost for a backpack if you ask me, and with a stupid tactical arrow on it. I'd rather have one of those $40 ones from The War Store, something that isn't quite so obviously a gamer bag.

All I'm looking forward to right now are new Stormtrooper models and Bastogne

H.B.M.C. wrote:the citadel water cup

WTF?! really? really?!

Why the hell would i pay money for something i can use a yogurt cup for? or my buddies beer he wasnt watching well enough? or a milk jug cut in half or an old jar? any other concievable water container?! I can see "citadel oxygen" coming someday: use it to survive while you paint your minitures! (contains about 75% nitrogen) only 65$ a must have for any wargammer! (only available in some areas). Accept no substitutes, it its not citadel, dont breath it!

The Amaaaaaaazing sellingpoint of the Citadel Cup is how well it meshes with the new colourcodes on the brushes. Now you can leave you brushes in the water and still recognize the right brush when you need it.

Us normal people will still use a regular coffecup for our brushes and use the time-honored tradition of looking at our brushes when telling them apart.

All I know is, whoever came up with a citadel water cup, should get a raise! I want 1! and I want the incredibly original mixing plate!

Spiff Wrote:

All I'm looking forward to right now are new Stormtrooper models and Bastogne

I haven't anything about either of these, I can't imagine any new stormtroopers with how cool the Kasrkin look, I reckon GW will be finished with the IG for a while...


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Chickenlegs! wrote:I haven't anything about either of these, I can't imagine any new stormtroopers with how cool the Kasrkin look, I reckon GW will be finished with the IG for a while...

We saw a preview of plastic Storm Troopers last year, hence why people are talking about them. We also know there are more IG items coming over the next six months, just not what they are.

aaah cool, apologies for my incorrect assumption, I look forward to seeing how they look...

It appears 2010 will be a year in which Games Workshop puts a lot of resources into revamping and reintroducing Warhammer Fantasy Battle. There's a good possibility of a new version of the rules, which would also mean a new starter set and probably a lot of other supporting products as well.

I bet December will be a number of small second and third wave items. Nothing big and special, but probably worth while.

December 2009 will be the usual gift oriented items as they have done for the past few years.

From http://www.gamingfigures.com/
"Coming Soon.
Posted: 05 October 2009
We all know that November sees the release of the new Skaven army book and new range of figures.

But did you also know that Games Workshop are planning some Warhammer 40000 releases and re-releases.

Re-releases include: The Imperial Sector(£48.95), The Imperial Strongpoint(£53.85) and the Space Marine Megaforce(£97.85 contents as yet unknown).

New release include: Ork Megaforce(£97.85 contents unknown) and the Fortress of Redemption(£58.70).

Yes folks, GW are releasing the Dark Angels Fortress as pictured in the Planetstrike codex.

Warhammer releases include the Empire Brigade and a Orc & Goblin Brigade(£97.85 each)

The release date for the above items has been confirmed as the 28th November. All prices shown above are Games Workshop RRP's. These models will be in the advanced order section as soon as we have confirmation of quantities available to us."

"Fortress of Redemption" - confirmed then?

Nice!

Elric of Grans wrote:

Chickenlegs! wrote:I haven't anything about either of these, I can't imagine any new stormtroopers with how cool the Kasrkin look, I reckon GW will be finished with the IG for a while...

We saw a preview of plastic Storm Troopers last year, hence why people are talking about them. We also know there are more IG items coming over the next six months, just not what they are.

No, we saw what people assumed were Storm Troopers. Last time I checked, the IG ST can not have Shotguns which the preview models did (and other options ST can't take). If they are still coming out, the models are more likely vet squads.

You're ignoring the fact that Inquisitorial Stormtroopers can take shotguns... this may be a consiquence of that or GW maybe assuming the shotgun will be used to make the squad veterans, giving the kit multiple utilities.

Man, shotgun Stormies and the Fortress of Redemption... please, please, a thousand times PLEASE!
I would choke on my own drool.
I hope they rerelease the Imperial Sector too. That CoD set was really cool, and I had been meaning to pick up a few more, and was worried the warstore might run out at some distant point.

@Elric of Grans
I have been told that Tomb Kings are not coming out in 2010.

This frees up 3 quarters for a warhammer army or two. My guess at this point is that either Bretonnians or Ogres will be redone next year, not both. This will leave the remaining 3 armies to be redone in 2011, with a slot in the schedule for a new army next year some time.

2010 may be a Fantasy heavy year, possibly with a new rule book and starter set.

Based on that, I was speculating with a friend last night about what two armies would or should be included in the new WHFB starter set most likely coming next year. Battle For Skull Pass is a good set, but Goblins and Dwarfs are probably not the best or most iconic choices to sell Fantasy Battle to brand new customers. It didn't take us long to arrive at the conclusion that Bretonnians and Chaos Warriors would be the best choices for new, simple starter set plastics. Here are some reasons:
1) They are both human based armies which are generally more popular in pure sales volume, especially with beginners.
2) Bretonnians are an icon of good with their knights in shining armor and the other, Chaos, is a twisted, menacing flip side of that. Both are archetypes of what fantasy games are all about, especially Warhammer. Visually, these models explain themselves at a glance, making it easier to understand for the prospective beginners and therefore easier to sell for GW staff. Both armies are fairly easy to understand. I don't mean their rules, though that is also true. I mean the armies themselves. For prospective new fantasy game customers it can sometimes be difficult to understand the underlying concepts behind the models and associated games. These armies are easy to understand at a glance as visually they are Knights and Evil Knights, something not too hard to grasp for complete novices to the hobby. The ability to describe these armies in simplistic terms without much knowledge of underlying myth and legend makes them easy to market to people unfamiliar with fantasy literature or games.

The problem with Brets & Chaos is that you can't get as many models in the box.

Still, good suggestion!


Now how about Brets vs Skaven???

!) GW likes to stuff a lotta models into those boxes to make at least 1 good item in their inventory
2) they like some ranged warfare to show sides of both types of combat

I would think it would be skaven (there new) and empire
somewhat fluffy yet generic enough

but im still hoping for some oddball O&G stuff to come out the doomwheel keeps looking like a pumpwagon as of late

Some of you need to frequent other forums.

Those ST greens were never confirmed or denied as 3ups for new minis. They could have been test sculpts for a new sculptor for all anyone knows, like the recent Tallarn greens are. Also, I think it was Phil from GW, said at GDUK that new ST's will not be coming out for at least another year.

One from Warseer -

First reports back from Games Day UK indicate that both Phil Kelly and Robin Cruddace apparently said there will be no new Storm Troopers for a while longer (not for another year at least was the gist) but they did not deny that the project was under way.

There are others out there with similar lines from the same GW people.

The Fortress is in the Christmas pricing catalog.

Maybe Imperial Guard Stormtroopers were going to get Shotguns, maybe they were on the same line of omitted text as Meltabombs.

George Spiggott wrote:Maybe Imperial Guard Stormtroopers were going to get Shotguns, maybe they were on the same line of omitted text as Meltabombs.

OTOH, Robin managed to deny IG Sergeants the ability to be armed with Lasguns, and add a line that they're always armed with LP&CCW...

Not to be a reiteration of threads long discussed, discussed again, mused over, seated on the shelf, gathered dust, rehashed, refurbished, retired, brought out of retirement, brought up again, and again, signed off on, stamped, double stamped, triple stamped, filed, buried in top soil, stirred with peat moss, made to grow daisies, decomposed, exumed, displayed, dated, reread, ignored and rising from the grave, but....

WHEN THE HELL ARE THE FRIGIN DAEMONS GOING TO GET ALL OF THEIR FRIGIN MODELS, I AM TIRED OF READING "EARLY NEXT YEAR" IN THREADS FROM FRIGIN OCT 2008.

Well... finally got that off my chest, whew.

BrassScorpion wrote:Re-releases include: The Imperial Sector(£48.95)...

Ah good, that'll mean Maelstrom will get them again

BrassScorpion wrote:... and the Fortress of Redemption(£58.70).

W00tX0r!!!!!!!

Ygds wrote:Not to be a reiteration of threads long discussed, discussed again, mused over, seated on the shelf, gathered dust, rehashed, refurbished, retired, brought out of retirement, brought up again, and again, signed off on, stamped, double stamped, triple stamped, filed, buried in top soil, stirred with peat moss, made to grow daisies, decomposed, exumed, displayed, dated, reread, ignored and rising from the grave, but....

WHEN THE HELL ARE THE FRIGIN DAEMONS GOING TO GET ALL OF THEIR FRIGIN MODELS, I AM TIRED OF READING "EARLY NEXT YEAR" IN THREADS FROM FRIGIN OCT 2008.

Well... finally got that off my chest, whew.

Maybe with Chaos Wave 2?
Oh, wait minute ...

Ygds wrote:
Not to be a reiteration of threads long discussed, discussed again, mused over, seated on the shelf, gathered dust, rehashed, refurbished, retired, brought out of retirement, brought up again, and again, signed off on, stamped, double stamped, triple stamped, filed, buried in top soil, stirred with peat moss, made to grow daisies, decomposed, exumed, displayed, dated, reread, ignored and rising from the grave, but....

WHEN THE HELL ARE THE FRIGIN DAEMONS GOING TO GET ALL OF THEIR FRIGIN MODELS, I AM TIRED OF READING "EARLY NEXT YEAR" IN THREADS FROM FRIGIN OCT 2008.

Well... finally got that off my chest, whew.


Maybe with Chaos Wave 2?
Oh, wait minute ...

Are you telling me it is not happening now!!! If so I am writing at least 100 letters to pester them, starting a petition, and going on a hunger strike to protest the taunting injustice. Well... probably not, but I would if this were not just a hobby, probably fortunate I have much larger things to worry about.

What about a super Heavy for other races in APOC like eldar, marines, nids and such its dumb only making the IG and Ork super heavys i think. Anyone have news on that?

Based on comments made by the GW Studio earlier this year and given the trend of the past two years, it seems likely there will be at least another large kit or two coming in 2010 for Apocalypse, but there have been no good hints or leaks as to what specifically those might be, just speculation so far. The only thing even close to a meaty rumor is talk of a plastic Trygon. Whether that's real or not, personally, I'm hoping for more than that later in the year after Tyranids, something physically larger, regardless of which army it might be for.

BrassScorpion wrote:Based on comments made by the GW Studio earlier this year and given the trend of the past two years, it seems likely there will be at least another large kit or two coming in 2010 for Apocalypse.

Well, the top two pics have been Warhound & Thunderhawk for quite some time, with the Eldar Scorpion / Cobra as a dark horse.

From a market stand point a Warhound would be for the win... but from the stand point of representing each army is a characteristic way it falls flat. Warhounds are effectively the super heavies of a portion of the Imperiums forces that aren't represented in the game, adeptus titanicus. Its only slightly better than if GW had decided to do an Ork Submarine instead of a Stompa. It'd be really cool, but it doesn't fit in any sort of meaningful way.

Thunderhawks for all the different Space Marines is the most straight forward and would cover the most forces; Chaos, Space Marines, Dark Angel, Blood Angel, Space Wolves, Black Templars, Grey Knights, and Sisters of Battles.... and thats before any "konversions" or Inquisitorial requisition for Guard. That would only leave the need for Eldar, Dark Eldar, Tau, Daemons, and Necrons; less than half of the armies.

As much as I'd like a plastic Warhound or Thunderhawk, I think that Eldar and Nids need to get some loving first. Cobra superheavy and Trygon ftw?

So ya the new Skaven codex next month can't wait! suppose to come in to the FLGS today or tommorow.

The Angry Commissar wrote:

sweet the blood angel dex is garbage.

And I know its an old post but have you never played the current blood angels? They are by no means bad! Every battle is a blood bath they are actually really good.

While I think the Trygon is a great addition, I cannont help but feel they'd be short changed. The Imperium gets a baneblade almost 5 or 6 times larger (by volume) than a Leman Russ... but Nids only get a trygon, which fits on the same base as and is similar in size to Carnifex. If Nid's can get a real gargantuan creature like a heirodule, exocrine, haruspex, or malefactor as different variants of one big model, I think it'd be more significant.

For Eldar, I really think something like a Nightwing or Revenant would be more appropriate than a Eldar attempt at a baneblade.