Science fiction author Robert Heinlein once wrote, "An armed society is a polite society." I think there's more to the quote than that, but that's all that fits on the t-shirt. His concept is simple: when everyone has a gun, no one is willing to risk gun death by farting uproariously or discussing a woman's bosom. Society then becomes very peaceful and happy and polite.
A society that is forced into politeness through fear really isn’t that ideal at all. Politeness should be a voluntary gesture of goodwill towards your fellow man, not something you do for fear of having your head blown off.
Exactly. We seem to be getting along fine without being armed to the teeth! The difference here is that if you offend someone badly enough, you might end up with a smack in the face. Unpleasant of course - but not deadly.
The issue has never been with being able to own and carry a gun, but in being indescriminate as to who has access to them and how readily available they are.
It may suprise some from outside the UK to learn that anyone over here can legaly own a fire arm, it is just the case that our laws are a lot tighter on, how they are obtained and stored, what they are used for and what type of firearm it is.
I would imagine that the majority of people in any society where firearms are widespread do not carry them for any practical purpose (such as hunting) but because they are concerned that everyone else has them so they should have one too.
People who think that having a gun means others are going to be more polite to you are confusing respect with fear.
We need mandatory military and civil service. Too many kids desperately need a swift kick in the ass in this world of myspace and facebook. Next generation might very well be too distant and lack the basic social skills to be productive citizens and decent human beings. Military/civil training and environments will quickly remedy this as it forces people to work well in team situations.
Not to mention we're too damn fat! You'll get a few birds with this stone.
Here come the British, with their fancy words and their let's talk this out peacefully attitude. This is why you guys lost World War I and II. The real 'Mericans will go over to our side of the thread, and have a real man's conversation while stroking our guns in a manner that is vaguely Freudian. While you Brit fops can sit on your side, which I may mention is much smaller than ours, and talk about chavs and nutella.
*bee tee dubs bought some nutella that gak is off the hook.
avantgarde wrote:Here come the British, with their fancy words and their let's talk this out peacefully attitude. This is why you guys lost World War I and II. The real 'Mericans will go over to our side of the thread, and have a real man's conversation while stroking our guns in a manner that is vaguely Freudian. While you Brit fops can sit on your side, which I may mention is much smaller than ours, and talk about chavs and nutella.
*bee tee dubs bought some nutella that gak is off the hook.
Oh dear how awfuly rude, I shall have to go and discuss this with the Queen over a cup of tea and a fish and chip supper. Meanwhile you can start another war in the jungle you can't finish.
Cane wrote:We need mandatory military and civil service. Too many kids desperately need a swift kick in the ass in this world of myspace and facebook. Next generation might very well be too distant and lack the basic social skills to be productive citizens and decent human beings. Military/civil training and environments will quickly remedy this as it forces people to work well in team situations.
Not to mention we're too damn fat! You'll get a few birds with this stone.
Kids in my area are very social. Everywhere I walk, whether it's Wal-mart or the fabric store with the gf or the grocery store kids are very social toward one another. Most have taken up sign language. It is amazing how apparently flashing gang signs at passers by is supposed to be some form of communication. I think I'm going to start flashing the sign of the Aquilla.
Lots of kids (dare I say most teens) lack social skills as they really aren't taught beyond elementary school. It's as if as soon as they hit junior high they are left to develop them further and or refine them on their own. To transition from elementary to junior high and then to high school is a very big step socially and one that teachers and parents take for granted. I mean hell, there is a lot of social discrimination based on status and parents income and grade level (ie 6th, 7th or 8th) vs elementary and it's even more pronounced in HS and lots of teens choose not to mature socially even though they are maturing grade wise and age wise.
I say take every CURRENT 12-16yo in the country that is physically able and send them off to a Marine Corps style boot camp. Marine corps has the most difficult and strictest boot camp in the US. Teach kids today some discipline because I don't think that many of them get it at home.
Okay, not about guns but I got sidetracked. I don't think everyone owning a gun would make everyone in the world more polite. You would have fethtards trying to pull gak because they would have a gun as well and so would think they'd be able to back up words with action. They could but they also risk getting killed.
LuciusAR wrote:A society that is forced into politeness through fear really isn’t that ideal at all. Politeness should be a voluntary gesture of goodwill towards your fellow man, not something you do for fear of having your head blown off.
Laudable thoughts, but don't represent reality too well in a lot of places.
Actually, I suppose it would merely give raise to whole sorts of vigilantes. And all those 'big boys' are going to want to wave their shiny toys around and eventually blow some ones head off.
Let's say two mates get into a drunken scuffle.
1) No guns on either of them. They fight, scrap whatever, before falling down or getting dragged away by other friends. They may choose to ignore each other or may even make up when sober.
2) Both have guns. The end result is either one or both of them dead.
All I thought about was the idea that the wild west was somehow polite? Am I missing something here? Movies or what have you aside, the west with all it's firearms was heavily underpopulated, and there were shootings all the time... anyway though, perrty funny art-eecle right tharrr... I tell ya' whu-hut.
People should be able to own firearms, and as far as I can tell, they will do that whether the government wants them to or not, especially in the freaking U.S. Land of shotguns and cheeseburgers... and Budweiser and fishing too... I like to fish though, but that is okay, because I don't drink Budweiser. Those things make me piss like a horse, and being on a boat while fishing and pissing and farting... well, I kinda like the fishing part to be honest. , I do plenty of pissing and farting either way.
My experience as a teacher in Hackney, the roughest part of London, is that carrying weaponry doesn't make anyone treat you politely. It makes other people treat you like a target.
In the past few years at my school, one (pre-teen) boy has murdered someone, another (early teen) boy has been done on charges that I am not fully aware of, but include drugs and weapon offenses, and, from a conversation I overheard, possibly murder. As a Head of Year, I have managed to avoid permanent exclusion of one boy for carrying weapons, and got him a "managed move" instead, seen another boy narrowly avoid jail due to offenses committed whilst on tag, known at least 4 pupils to be stabbed outside of school. I've now got a pair of thirteen year old boys in my new year group I'll be referring to case workers due to their gang connections.
The last thing any of those kids need anywhere near them is more guns or knives.
On the plus side, I've got at least one boy through school with decent GCSEs, including a C and a B in English and Maths. If he had been chucked out of school (and I probably could have swung it if I had tried) he'd have been on the street and not have extricated himself from the gang nonsense he was well into. If he had walked up to you with his gang to rob you, and you pulled a weapon him, he and his friends would have killed you. Another boy (the boy on tag mentioned above) who I let do his exams in isolation as an alternative to permanent exclusion, actually seemed to cotton to the fact his future was in his own hands just in time, grew up late, but before it was too late. He is now in college, getting a trade and actually speaking like an adult capable of making rational decisions.
Some of the gak people come out with on the internet exposes a massive lack of understanding of the real world.
You don't solve problems by putting weapons in people's hands. You can't protect a potential victim by giving them a weapon. You don't try to make people fear you as a way of controlling them. When you try to prevent someone being aggressive by responding with aggression, it is unlikely you will be successful. They are people who are aggressive "for a living". They'll respond by upping the ante, being more aggressive, and likely making the consequences worse for either you, them, or, most likely, both of you.
Live in the real world, and recognise that when you try to put the fear into someone, they are more likely to be more aggressive, not less.
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Apologies, I WAS joking, but the image didn't link, and I suppose I wasn't clear enough.
No worries man, I won't bug you anymore
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I blame Steven Colbert... for his evil influence on me. I shall never know... never...
Here... this was a fantastic show actually, he still has some serious clout eh?
Ahtman wrote:I thought everyone knew that happiness is a warm gun.
Tell that to John Lennon.
Ba dum tish!
Too soon?
If lennon had a gun, then maybe he would still be alive.
Personally, I like the whole concealed weapons license deal and I like the fact of owning a firearm. Seeing as though I am only 19, handguns are out of the question, rifles are not though and I have a .22 and recently had a mosin-nagant ordered for me($75.95 for a 7.56 without a safety and a bayonet included? Yes Please!)
I will also bring this to the game of guns.
Mandatory Gun Laws Compare that to some other states and etc, that have seen increases in violent crime and in other crimes after gun bans.
Gun Ban Stats I tried to find a non-biased website, but that's impossible in these kinds of issues so I went with the only .org one on this.
No, you can still come here, but now that we know you don't have a weapon then we don't have to be polite towards you. You still have to be polite towards us, after all... we have the guns.
If lennon had a gun, then maybe he would still be alive.
Personally, I like the whole concealed weapons license deal and I like the fact of owning a firearm. Seeing as though I am only 19, handguns are out of the question, rifles are not though and I have a .22 and recently had a mosin-nagant ordered for me($75.95 for a 7.56 without a safety and a bayonet included? Yes Please!)
If Chapman HADN'T have had a gun, Lennon would DEFINITELY still be alive.
And dude, what the hell do you need a rifle with a bayonet for? Are you off to Ypres any time soon?
Didn't think so. The above quote is why the idea of living in the US is starting to lose it's appeal for me.
If you want to talk guns, go to the Firing Range over at Something Awful, great bunch of guys and gals who love showing off their stuff and not so nutso about it. Actually quite informative and friendly, even for a wussy non-gun lover like me.
Except for that one guy.. Who names his guns and kisses them. Ugh.
Fifty wrote: If he had walked up to you with his gang to rob you, and you pulled a weapon him, he and his friends would have killed you.
If you pull a handgun and immediately begin engaging targets while moving towards cover, and somehow *still* end up getting killed/maimed.....you're doing it wrong.
I was going to make some other comments but I got distracted at EncylopediaDramatica and forgot everything.
Having worked with guns most of my adult life I can tell you that they are tools and nothing else. Tools of the worst nature. They are heavy, dirty pigs. My humanitarian sensibilities scream out against them. Yet, I still like them and own a few myself. It is a strange dichotomy.
frgsinwntr wrote:Honestly, I plan on owning a gun eventually. But not until i live somewhere I need it. Like north Pocono where there are bears.
Not too many Bears here in NJ
Speaking of NJ, I hate this state. I was telling my mother (who owns a .357 revolver loaded with .38 flat-tipped rounds) about Sig Sauer's Cash for Clunkers program, and that she should consider buying some POS gun at a pawn shop for cheap so she could turn it in for a brand new Sig and get a big discount. She then began to explain all the NJ laws that make that damn near impossible.
I bought all my firearms in Florida: 2 SKS's (one Yugo, one Chinese) and a Bushmaster M4. The process is basically like this:
1. Pick the weapon you want.
2. Do background check (takes about 5 minutes).
3. Do other paperwork for purchase.
4. Come back in 3-5 days (forgot which) to pick up your new instrument of death.
If you get a concealed carry permit (not too difficult according to the gun store guys) there isn't even a waiting period.
Noble713 wrote:I bought all my firearms in Florida: 2 SKS's (one Yugo, one Chinese) and a Bushmaster M4. The process is basically like this:
1. Pick the weapon you want.
2. Do background check (takes about 5 minutes).
3. Do other paperwork for purchase.
4. Come back in 3-5 days (forgot which) to pick up your new instrument of death.
If you get a concealed carry permit (not too difficult according to the gun store guys) there isn't even a waiting period.
I'm pretty sure NOCCW permit allows you to carry an M4 or SKS concealed. Thanks for the laugh, though.
Also, for home defense your mother seems like she knows what she is doing as she has just about the best combination for NOT shooting through the next three houses.
Oh and btw the SKS-es are most likely piles of junk. I traded a pair of boots for one of mine, the boots were better but didn't fit. Some of the Russian ones are up to snuff but those other makes really use inferior parts. Be careful and don't be shy about updated/improving your springs. Especially if you plan for it to get any real use.
I'm pretty sure NOCCW permit allows you to carry an M4 or SKS concealed. Thanks for the laugh, though.
Nor did I say it did. I said it allows you to purchase a weapon same-day, no waiting period. At least in Miami-Dade County, which, along with Broward County (Ft. Lauderdale) probably has the strictest firearms laws in the state.
Also, for home defense your mother seems like she knows what she is doing as she has just about the best combination for NOT shooting through the next three houses.
She also NEVER goes to the range so she probably couldn't hit the broadside of a barn if it came down to it. I keep telling her to get a shotgun but she has other priorities.
My rifles aren't for home defense. If I had to use one in an emergency, all my ammo is hollow point (reduced penetration, very nice vs flesh) and when combined with the rather sturdy cinder block construction of the Florida homes I've lived in, I wasn't too concerned about stray rounds busting open Little Timmy's brainpan two doors down. Not to mention that the small size of my efficiency (5m distances, TOPS) made missing damn near impossible.
The M4 was to help me retain some semblance of marksmanship skills as we only qualified annually in the National Guard. The Yugo SKS (1st weapon purchased) was just for plinking, and while it lacks a chrome-lined barrel that hasn't been a problem when mated with non-corrosive ammo. It's in pretty decent condition; I drove over to their warehouse and hand-picked it from their racks (they even had rifles of all types just piled up in corners in the office, it was crazy). Plus the folding bayonet means it retains some use as a spear during the eventual Zombie Apocalypse. The Norinco SKS is a little crummy (pawn shop purchase), but I bought it specifically to mod like crazy. Telescoping stock with rails, vertical foregrip, detachable mags (the decent plastic Tapco ones), replacement gas piston and gas tube. For ~$350 total you basically get an AK with a smaller mag capacity (20 vs 30 rounds), but with the ability to mount accessories. I'd like to add a reflex sight as I DESPISE the AK/SKS sights, but I just can't justify putting a $500 Eotech on a $350 clunker that I rarely use.
*sighs wistfully* Now I'm stuck trying to buy airsoft guns from Hong Kong to get my Tactikool fix. :(
Plus your mother probably won't have to train to hit anything if (hopefully never) she does have to fire a shot, it will probably be under two meters anyway. The sound alone should send most anyone running. Those that wouldn't run, she probably wouldn't have a chance to fire against anyway.
One last thing. 7.62x39 Ball ammo is infinitely cheaper. You can snip the tip about an eighth inch down for pretty much the same effect (even better glancing and shattering off of those block walls for creating shrapnel) and you will save a bundle. Of course it is illegal...
Noble713 wrote:I bought all my firearms in Florida: 2 SKS's (one Yugo, one Chinese) and a Bushmaster M4. The process is basically like this:
1. Pick the weapon you want.
2. Do background check (takes about 5 minutes).
3. Do other paperwork for purchase.
4. Come back in 3-5 days (forgot which) to pick up your new instrument of death.
If you get a concealed carry permit (not too difficult according to the gun store guys) there isn't even a waiting period.
I'm pretty sure NOCCW permit allows you to carry an M4 or SKS concealed. Thanks for the laugh, though.
Also, for home defense your mother seems like she knows what she is doing as she has just about the best combination for NOT shooting through the next three houses.
Oh and btw the SKS-es are most likely piles of junk. I traded a pair of boots for one of mine, the boots were better but didn't fit. Some of the Russian ones are up to snuff but those other makes really use inferior parts. Be careful and don't be shy about updated/improving your springs. Especially if you plan for it to get any real use.
I was going to say you need something larger post hurricane, or for the inevitable Zombiepocalypse. Come on people, think pro-actively here.
SKS's can be decent, but the junk ratio is high. They are excellent for cheap plinkers to have fun with.
Oh! Zombie Apocolypse weapons are a WHOLE different deal.
I give you the GREATEST anti Zombie rifle EVER! Behold...
1.) Plentiful cheap ammo that reloads easily!
2.) Light, well constructed Weapon!
3.) Proven in combat!
4.) Still being produced in even lighter and stronger composites instead of wood!
5.) Easy on the maintenance!
If you don't know what this rifle is by simply looking at it, then you don't deserve one!
Are you referring to the slug?
Accuracy. I'd much prefer a half decent rifle if you're looking to throw slugs downrange. Cheaper ammo as well, depending on what you're shooting. Plus if you're getting on in life scoped rifles are the bomb. You can get rifles from .22LR all the way up to something capable of shooting a moose. I'm looking at another .22LR rifle and proper cscope up for She Who Must Be Obeyed and Genghis Connie, as I've been told I'm being remiss in not teaching her to shoot a rifle yet (that was an interesting conversation).
Now you can put a scope on a shotgun. I've seen that advertsied, but frankly that marks you as a dork of the recreational shooting world. Its like the numbnut I saw once who took an HK submachine gun, converted it to .22 long rifle (a child's or target round) and was trying to shoot it at the 7 yard line. We were embarassed FOR him.
Frazzled wrote:...Now you can put a scope on a shotgun. I've seen that advertsied, but frankly that marks you as a dork of the recreational shooting world. Its like the numbnut I saw once who took an HK submachine gun, converted it to .22 long rifle (a child's or target round) and was trying to shoot it at the 7 yard line. We were embarassed FOR him.
That was probably way too much information.
Yeah, but SO worth the ride!
Oh, and I prefer the wood as well for your same "cricket bat" reasons!
Kilkrazy wrote:My point was that by carrying a shotgun you don't have to carry a rifle as well.
If something big comes along (Zombie waterbuffalo, for example) you wait for it to get in range and splat it with a slug.
If you're thinking about true multi-purpose then a good rifle is more well suited to that task anyway. Something like a SOCOM or SOCOM II, solid rifle with one of the greatest rifle rounds EVER produced, the 7.62 x 51 or .308 Win. Of course if you want the newly dubbed (thanks to Frazzled) "Cricket Bat Effect" go for the full blown M14, although the thing weighs a ton (but isn't that the point?).
Kilkrazy wrote:My point was that by carrying a shotgun you don't have to carry a rifle as well.
If something big comes along (Zombie waterbuffalo, for example) you wait for it to get in range and splat it with a slug.
If you're thinking about true multi-purpose then a good rifle is more well suited to that task anyway. Something like a SOCOM or SOCOM II, solid rifle with one of the greatest rifle rounds EVER produced, the 7.62 x 51 or .308 Win. Of course if you want the newly dubbed (thanks to Frazzled) "Cricket Bat Effect" go for the full blown M14, although the thing weighs a ton (but isn't that the point?).
A rifle isn't very good for shooting game birds unless you are Hunter Quatermain.
True that. As noted it depends on what you're using it for. A slug thrower is not accurate.
I've had experts say if you're talking zombiepocalypse you need an AK-47 (not 74). Due to the same reasons as the IG has lasguns: practically indestructible, the average smithy can fix it if it does break, and most chance of getting ammunition worldwide.
I normally carry it with 2.5" 000Buck. Each round has 4 pellets so pretty good stopping power.
Whatya mean? That is a fine weapon for the post-apocalyptic zombies infested world! Just because most pistols have an effective range of 50meter+/- and TV/Movies would lead you to believe pistols are often used in gun fights between 10-100 meters doesn't mean it's true! The truth is most pistol fire is exchanged at very close range (0-10 meters if IIRC). When zombies get too close making your AK, M4 or Socom 16 impractical, you whip this baby out and handle that business. This pistol is pure win for several reasons...
1.) Buckshot in a pistol = Hell yes for scrambling brains!
2.) Different round types usable in one pistol, which is very important for post-apocalyptia.
3.) Revolvers are very simple devices so you don't have to worry about worn out or relaxed clip springs from ammo stored too long in them.
All, jokin- uh I mean practicality aside, that is a very nice handgun.
At 10 yards+ the penetration is only around 5", not enough to be considered a good defensive load but I figure if I need to ever draw on someone outside my house I'd be within 2-3 yards so the pattern isn't really that bad, it's about 2" between pellets at 10 yards, haven't tried it closer.
I have .45 hollows in my house I load in there at night instead just in case as I see myself being further away from a intruder than someone trying to steal my wallet or carjack me.
I got a good lead on a .44 Taurus for really cheap, thinking of using that for home defense.
I love the Taurus guns. Nothing but good things I hear about them and not even as close to pricy as a Kimber. A buddy of mine spent $2k on a custom engraved Kimber .45. Eek.
Fateweaver wrote:At 10 yards+ the penetration is only around 5", not enough to be considered a good defensive load but I figure if I need to ever draw on someone outside my house I'd be within 2-3 yards so the pattern isn't really that bad, it's about 2" between pellets at 10 yards, haven't tried it closer.
I have .45 hollows in my house I load in there at night instead just in case as I see myself being further away from a intruder than someone trying to steal my wallet or carjack me.
I got a good lead on a .44 Taurus for really cheap, thinking of using that for home defense.
I love the Taurus guns. Nothing but good things I hear about them and not even as close to pricy as a Kimber. A buddy of mine spent $2k on a custom engraved Kimber .45. Eek.
.44 for home defense!?!?! You want to shoot the neighbors, don't you? Go for .44 mag so you can shoot the neighbor's neighbors too! May I suggest a nice .45 ACP Revolver. I believe S&W makes them, they store forever to fire when ready and you'll drop anyone in your home without killing the neighbors.
Albatross wrote:I love how this has gone from 'Every American Should Own A Gun' to 'AAAARRGHH! ZOMBIES!'
Automatically Appended Next Post: p.s. check out my avatar - that's me being a Zombie. An feeling the much-vaunted 'cricket-bat effect'.
You got the "Cricket Bat Effect" in its purest form! Nice!
Noble713 wrote:I bought all my firearms in Florida: 2 SKS's (one Yugo, one Chinese) and a Bushmaster M4. The process is basically like this:
1. Pick the weapon you want.
2. Do background check (takes about 5 minutes).
3. Do other paperwork for purchase.
4. Come back in 3-5 days (forgot which) to pick up your new instrument of death.
If you get a concealed carry permit (not too difficult according to the gun store guys) there isn't even a waiting period.
I'm pretty sure NOCCW permit allows you to carry an M4 or SKS concealed. Thanks for the laugh, though.
If you can manage it (say, a trench coat) the CCW here will let you conceal whatever you like.
GoFenris wrote:Oh! Zombie Apocolypse weapons are a WHOLE different deal.
I give you the GREATEST anti Zombie rifle EVER! Behold...
1.) Plentiful cheap ammo that reloads easily!
2.) Light, well constructed Weapon!
3.) Proven in combat!
4.) Still being produced in even lighter and stronger composites instead of wood!
5.) Easy on the maintenance!
If you don't know what this rifle is by simply looking at it, then you don't deserve one!
If we assume that the kind of zombies that would take over America are the slow shambling type, then what you really want is a weapon which would cause an inelastic collision with the zombie.
For example, a high power rifle will most likely shoot right through the zombie hardly changing its momentum at all, where as a shotgun loaded with bird shot would change greatly reduce the velocity of the zombie for a moment allowing you to escape.
if you want the math behind this i can add that later, but I didn't want to bore you guys : )
If we assume that the kind of zombies that would take over America are the slow shambling type, then what you really want is a weapon which would cause an inelastic collision with the zombie.
For example, a high power rifle will most likely shoot right through the zombie hardly changing its momentum at all, where as a shotgun loaded with bird shot would change greatly reduce the velocity of the zombie for a moment allowing you to escape.
if you want the math behind this i can add that later, but I didn't want to bore you guys : )
Fair argument. I amend my statement to say: ...the greatest anti-Romero zombie, rifle in the world for its one-shot-one-kill capacity and used famously by Robert Joy's character in Land of the Dead.
Fateweaver wrote:At 10 yards+ the penetration is only around 5", not enough to be considered a good defensive load but I figure if I need to ever draw on someone outside my house I'd be within 2-3 yards so the pattern isn't really that bad, it's about 2" between pellets at 10 yards, haven't tried it closer.
I have .45 hollows in my house I load in there at night instead just in case as I see myself being further away from a intruder than someone trying to steal my wallet or carjack me.
I got a good lead on a .44 Taurus for really cheap, thinking of using that for home defense.
I love the Taurus guns. Nothing but good things I hear about them and not even as close to pricy as a Kimber. A buddy of mine spent $2k on a custom engraved Kimber .45. Eek.
Yea but a Kimber is dead sexy! I hate stripping 1911 frames though. At least it beats RUger .22 pistols which require a mallet (WTF!).
JEB_Stuart wrote:I am just gonna stick with old faithful....
Yeah but every pull of the trigger is about $15 dollars a second or $900 dollars a minute!!! Nice idea but impractical if your not a bloated, decadent government.
Fifty wrote: If he had walked up to you with his gang to rob you, and you pulled a weapon him, he and his friends would have killed you.
If you pull a handgun and immediately begin engaging targets while moving towards cover, and somehow *still* end up getting killed/maimed.....you're doing it wrong.
I was going to make some other comments but I got distracted at EncylopediaDramatica and forgot everything.
That sort of assumes that most people know how to "do it right". I kind of doubt that.
It also assumes that a desirable to way to deal with a group of potentially unpleasant people moving towards you is to start shooting first and ask questions later.
The earlier implication was that having a gun would prevent them targetting you in the first place. Your reaction seems to be to start shooting anyone who in a group that is approaching you that looks like they might, just might, be about to rob you.
If you feel I am being overly dramatic, so be it, but I work in an Inner City school, with known gang members, others who have committed violent crimes and others who will go on to commit violent crimes unless someone can stop them. I feel entitled to have strong opinions about this.
If you feel I am being overly dramatic, so be it, but I work in an Inner City school, with known gang members, others who have committed violent crimes and others who will go on to commit violent crimes unless someone can stop them. I feel entitled to have strong opinions about this.
JEB_Stuart wrote:I am just gonna stick with old faithful....
Yeah but every pull of the trigger is about $15 dollars a second or $900 dollars a minute!!! Nice idea but impractical if your not a bloated, decadent government.
Meh, once the zombie apocalypse comes, money doesn't matter anymore. Soooo I can spend all I want! Given the possibility of this plan failing, I am running as fast as I can to a Bass Pro Shop, or a Cabella's. Let us see how this supposed zombie hoard fares then!
Fair points regarding the minigun and perhaps I was WAY to much in the "reality" dimension but even still, 40,000 rounds to kill a few hundred zombies is just lousy math. What about the other 5.85 billion?
I think we all need guns to protect ourselves from Glenn Beck... crazy donkey-puncher... YOU ABUSER OF FROGS!!! , man... I feel bad for that frog though.
TBH, I didn't even see the frog go into the water... but as the saying goes, when you need to bring your metaphors to life... and start boiling frogs... it is safe to say that your point is quite... tasteless. Who said hey... let's boil some damn frogs, that will show them how serious this really is. Man... the frogmanity.
GoFenris wrote:Fair points regarding the minigun and perhaps I was WAY to much in the "reality" dimension but even still, 40,000 rounds to kill a few hundred zombies is just lousy math. What about the other 5.85 billion?
Of course it would be fun though, hee hee
Flame thrower. Its much cheaper, easier to find fuel for, and nothing says loving like WOOSH!!!
Plus flames have been proven to work on everything: zombies, vampires, low level demons, ghouls, King Kong, even ALIEN and the Thing.
Flame throwers: for people who really want to set you on fire, but are too lazy to walk over to do it.
But in the zombie survival guide, all a flamethrower does is create a zombie that is on fire and wants to eat your brains, I would prefer a zombie that is not on fire and wants to eat my brains. Sure it will eventually burn away the zombie, but if he's close enough you're fethed. Also, big back pack that is heavy so you can't run.
@The fellow who asks why I want a bayonet:
I just do, my dad has an S.K.S with a bayonet so I see it only natural to also own a bayonet, its also a bargain seeing as though the local gunshop had them for $125 and no accessories included.
Its like going to an auto dealer and looking at two cars. Car A is 15,000 and has power windows, Car B is 30,000 and has manual windows. Power windows are unnecessary, but good to have, just like bayonets.
Why do I want a rifle, because its an older Russian Rifle, Model 1891/30 and was issued to russian infantry during WW2. The best part is, the russian government decided to take all of the old ones and restore them just in case WW3 broke out, so its in nice condition.
For Frazz and other gun lovers I post a neat little Surplus Supplier website.
Guns Here
halonachos wrote:But in the zombie survival guide, all a flamethrower does is create a zombie that is on fire and wants to eat your brains, I would prefer a zombie that is not on fire and wants to eat my brains. Sure it will eventually burn away the zombie, but if he's close enough you're fethed. Also, big back pack that is heavy so you can't run.
@The fellow who asks why I want a bayonet:
I just do, my dad has an S.K.S with a bayonet so I see it only natural to also own a bayonet, its also a bargain seeing as though the local gunshop had them for $125 and no accessories included.
Its like going to an auto dealer and looking at two cars. Car A is 15,000 and has power windows, Car B is 30,000 and has manual windows. Power windows are unnecessary, but good to have, just like bayonets.
Why do I want a rifle, because its an older Russian Rifle, Model 1891/30 and was issued to russian infantry during WW2. The best part is, the russian government decided to take all of the old ones and restore them just in case WW3 broke out, so its in nice condition.
For Frazz and other gun lovers I post a neat little Surplus Supplier website.
Guns Here
I wipe my butt with the Zombie survival guide. Hollywood has foreseen the disease, and proclaimed the flamer is da cure.
Nothing beats the ex for killing zombies. If a zombie apoc ever comes I'll find her and tie her to me to keep zombies at bay. Trust me when I say not even the living dead would want to be anywhere near her.
Wrexasaur wrote:I think we all need guns to protect ourselves from Glenn Beck... crazy donkey-puncher... YOU ABUSER OF FROGS!!! , man... I feel bad for that frog though.
TBH, I didn't even see the frog go into the water... but as the saying goes, when you need to bring your metaphors to life... and start boiling frogs... it is safe to say that your point is quite... tasteless. Who said hey... let's boil some damn frogs, that will show them how serious this really is. Man... the frogmanity.
Okay... now that I am done laughing... here is the whole plan revealed. Tricky Glenn... very tricky .
Shut the piehole indeed... shut it nice and good. Wait... is that cranberry? What kind of pie is a cranberry pie... this is terrible... why am I eating this...
ROFL 
The above quote is why the idea of living in the US is starting to lose it's appeal for me.
But yea you're often right. 
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