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games day @ 2009/09/24 21:02:16


Post by: shrike


can everyone tell me what the latest rumours are?


games day @ 2009/09/24 21:16:35


Post by: Elric of Grans


There was a rumour that this thread will get locked...


games day @ 2009/09/24 21:59:38


Post by: Ozymandias


Well where to begin?

GW decided that Dark Eldar will be the next big thing so you can expect a new Dark Eldar codex in February of next year.

Also, although Squats are gone, there are plans to release the concept as the Demiurge as a stand alone codex. We saw a preview of the models and they were AWESOME!!!!!!!!

For Fantasy, the error that is the Daemons Army Book has been recognized and we should expect to see an updated book. Lots of nerfs all around.

Brettionia will be released but only in French.

Space Hulk was such a huge success that we should see every Specialist Game getting their own Limited Edition release. Next up is GorkaMorka.

Finally, Chaos Space Marines will get a new codex. But instead of a fluff section there's just a picture of Jervis giving the middle finger to HBMC.

That's all for now!


games day @ 2009/09/24 22:03:34


Post by: Flachzange


Ozymandias wrote:
Finally, Chaos Space Marines will get a new codex. But instead of a fluff section there's just a picture of Jervis giving the middle finger to HBMC.



Sigged


games day @ 2009/09/25 04:07:44


Post by: deitpike


you forgot
The Pan Fo will be reviled!


games day @ 2009/09/25 04:36:19


Post by: BrassScorpion


Due to the success of the Overwatch concept in the new Space Hulk and in 2nd edition 40K, it will again appear in the 40K rules when version 6 of 40K is released

On the subject of Games Day UK 2009, GW provided this info today.

I'm more interested in talking about Games Day 2010 events. I've had discussions with a couple different people in GW US about how stripped down and low-budget Games Day events were this year, making them the least spectacular Games Days ever. I've been reassured that the error of turning their premiere product and hobby showcase into an empty shell of its usual self will not happen in 2010. Supposedly, Games Day 2010 will restore Games Day to its usual level of spectacle and excitement.


games day @ 2009/09/26 01:29:58


Post by: JohnHwangDD


You know, if GW wanted to drive more interest at future Games Days, perhaps GW could sell individual bitz...

That would be a nice, new thing for them to do next year!


games day @ 2009/09/26 01:40:53


Post by: Brother SRM


BrassScorpion wrote:
I'm more interested in talking about Games Day 2010 events. I've had discussions with a couple different people in GW US about how stripped down and low-budget Games Day events were this year, making them the least spectacular Games Days ever. I've been reassured that the error of turning their premiere product and hobby showcase into an empty shell of its usual self will not happen in 2010. Supposedly, Games Day 2010 will restore Games Day to its usual level of spectacle and excitement.

I've heard the same and I really hope it's true. Toning things down didn't work for E3, and apparently it didn't work too well for GW. Here's hoping it's back to it's former glory soon.


games day @ 2009/09/26 02:36:13


Post by: Sidstyler


Hopefully for them people are still willing to go after the crap fests that were 2009 Games Days.


games day @ 2009/09/26 02:39:47


Post by: dienekes96


BrassScorpion, I'll need a report telling me how awesome GD2010 was before I consider a ticket again.

GD Balt 2009 was the closest thing to theft I've ever seen, in terms of content versus cost. I'm not doing that again.

Seeing a bunch of pre-release stuff for GDUK reminds me of my first GD (when they treated it like something special hobby-wide), and how pathetic 2009 was in comparison.

Beyond that, great thread. Very useful.


games day @ 2009/09/26 09:25:57


Post by: UltraPrime


Not been to GD for many years, so this may seem a stupid question. Can you buy stuff with a credit card?


games day @ 2009/09/26 09:36:15


Post by: reds8n


Yes you can.

If you're travelling to the event with your local GW store and the coach they hired then you should receive a free novella entitled "Vulkan's shield" by Nick Kyme which is a taster for his Salamander series of books.

Which is pretty good actually so far, first book starts a little clunkily perhaps but hits its stride quickly and has some cool moments in it.


games day @ 2009/09/26 09:59:44


Post by: UltraPrime


reds8n wrote: Yes you can.

If you're travelling to the event with your local GW store and the coach they hired then you should receive a free novella entitled "Vulkan's shield" by Nick Kyme which is a taster for his Salamander series of books.

Which is pretty good actually so far, first book starts a little clunkily perhaps but hits its stride quickly and has some cool moments in it.


Thanks. Not doing coach, driving myself.


games day @ 2009/09/26 17:29:11


Post by: Necros


How could 2009's GD possibly suck? They had a SQUIG CAKE! ya can't beat that...


games day @ 2009/09/26 17:34:39


Post by: reds8n


By "novella" I in fact mean a folded and printed sheet of A4 in fact. Still it seems the next BL open day is 13.2.10.


games day @ 2009/09/26 19:50:13


Post by: BrookM


Here's hoping those idiots have got their new site up by then.


games day @ 2009/09/27 14:07:38


Post by: 1hadhq


So no coverage of GD uk at dakka?


games day @ 2009/09/27 14:11:15


Post by: Bleieskiftarbeider


Tyranid codex has been confirmed for jan 2010. Written by Robin Cruddace.



And the new Lord of Change from FW:




games day @ 2009/09/27 14:20:35


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Soon the the Imperium faces a new thread, one from a quarter they never saw coming.

Prepare for...

Hive Fleet Arbitrary


games day @ 2009/09/27 14:32:21


Post by: 1hadhq



With special characters? ^^



Had to grab this from whineseer ( cause dakka lacks pics of events on the british islands ):




IA 8:

Elysians and orks should be expected.
Not heard of Raven Guard tough.

Anything about the dropship?





games day @ 2009/09/27 14:34:36


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Warseer has a few pics. It's very Starship Trooper-esque in that it has a cargo-bay for infantry either side of the cockpit.

And then big Land Speeder wings.


games day @ 2009/09/27 14:39:26


Post by: Bleieskiftarbeider


1hadhq wrote:
Anything about the dropship?


Could be this one, but look a little like SM stuff.



Also some Tallern greens:



Demon cavalry:



games day @ 2009/09/27 14:45:01


Post by: 1hadhq


The concept drawings look better than the model.

Flying brick FTW.


games day @ 2009/09/27 14:58:35


Post by: shadowseer92


OMFG YES! GORKAMORKA! , I STILL PLAY IT AND IT'S GUNNA BE UPDATED !


games day @ 2009/09/27 15:16:59


Post by: BrookM


A havy lift variant of the Valkyrie and a new fast attack vehicle.

feth. Yes.


games day @ 2009/09/27 15:27:15


Post by: AgeOfEgos


That looks like a Land Speeder variant to me. The forward wing/spoiler/cockpit. Plus, didn't FW state previously they always wanted to do a proper mid-range flying vehicle for the SM (As the Tempest was considered a failure)? Maybe a 'Scout' Speeder for Tac marines..?

The most exciting thing I've read/seen so far; Tallarn! Finally an excuse to buy those FW rough riders and do an Africa Korp themed IG force;


games day @ 2009/09/27 15:40:18


Post by: Steelmage99


I am going to laugh my behind to bits if Tallarn plastics are released before a generic great-coat guard.


games day @ 2009/09/27 15:56:24


Post by: BrassScorpion


How about the news on a 40K movie!?! Check it out at
http://ultramarinesthemovie.com/


games day @ 2009/09/27 16:57:07


Post by: JOHIRA


Steelmage99 wrote:I am going to laugh my behind to bits if Tallarn plastics are released before a generic great-coat guard.


Tallarn plastics would pretty well guarantee that I start an Imperial Guard army. Great-coat guard wouldn't.


games day @ 2009/09/27 16:59:07


Post by: Necros


Lots of nice stuff on the way can't wait till the new nid pics start popping up FW stuff is great as usual. But I'm most interested in the Ultramarines movie


games day @ 2009/09/27 17:06:19


Post by: BrookM


BrassScorpion wrote:How about the news on a 40K movie!?! Check it out at
http://ultramarinesthemovie.com/
Well, they did Bionicle, so we won't get another episode of Exile Movies drama.


games day @ 2009/09/27 17:09:11


Post by: person person


1hadhq wrote:The concept drawings look better than the model.

Flying brick FTW.


same


games day @ 2009/09/27 17:33:13


Post by: radiohazard


shadowseer92 wrote:OMFG YES! GORKAMORKA! , I STILL PLAY IT AND IT'S GUNNA BE UPDATED !


I'll believe it when a copy is in my hands.


games day @ 2009/09/27 17:57:13


Post by: endtransmission


That mock-up flying thing from the Forge World stand is supposed to be a Marine version of the Valk. The guy also talked about it being used as a boarding craft for ship to ship stuff. He was talking about it ramming through the side of enemy ships so the two pronged pieces at the front pierce the hull, then doors at the ends fold down to let out the Marines.

The other nice thing they had was something called a F.A.V for the Elysians. It was a small, 6 wheeled jeep type thing. It's very nice indeed and I want lots... now please. Sadly he kept hiding it whenever cameras were around... I hope someone somewhere got a shot as all I got was hand.

There were also some interesting tank concept sketches from the Vraks books, but they got rejected at the time for not being DKOK enough. they hoped to go back at some point and look at them again for another regiment. One was kind of boxy with a pop up rocket pod on the back. Again, no pictures were allowed :(


games day @ 2009/09/27 18:06:52


Post by: 1hadhq


endtransmission wrote:

The other nice thing they had was something called a F.A.V for the Elysians. It was a small, 6 wheeled jeep type thing that looked a little bit like a Land Speeder Storm hull. Kinda. It's very nice indeed and I want lots... now please. Sadly he kept hiding it whenever cameras were around... I hope someone somewhere got a shot as all I got was hand.

This?


games day @ 2009/09/27 18:18:28


Post by: BrookM


OH CRAP. That can't be something 40k. It's too perfect.


games day @ 2009/09/27 18:20:28


Post by: endtransmission


That's the one! Excellent, I'm glad someone caught a picture of it. Now I can covet it every day until it gets released


games day @ 2009/09/27 18:21:30


Post by: Brother SRM


Tallarn? What? I'm equally excited and confused.


games day @ 2009/09/27 18:25:30


Post by: BrookM


Well, my Elysians are getting a massive amount of love if that AFV and those passenger models are any indication of what is to come.

And those Tallarn look ace.


games day @ 2009/09/27 18:30:02


Post by: mikhaila


ooooh, Tallarn plastics maybe? excellant.


games day @ 2009/09/27 18:31:21


Post by: BrookM


Judging from the hamminess of those greens, I'd say yes. They aren't as slender and normal looking as other FW sculpts.


games day @ 2009/09/27 18:40:02


Post by: person person


BrookM wrote:OH CRAP. That can't be something 40k. It's too perfect.


Same here, looks like something from GI Joe.

It so AWESOME!!! I WANT!!!


games day @ 2009/09/27 18:47:10


Post by: Farmer


Where are the DE pics,god dammit....


games day @ 2009/09/27 18:56:14


Post by: His Master's Voice


Farmer wrote:Where are the DE pics,god dammit....


Eh, so far we have one (1) picture of new Skaven mins and it's a three up of a model we've seen like 2 months ago. DE? Before GD2010? No way...


games day @ 2009/09/27 19:09:01


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Gonna have to convert up one of those FAV thingies, Orky style!


games day @ 2009/09/27 19:16:40


Post by: Blackadder


Are the new Tallarn from Forgeworld or GW?


games day @ 2009/09/27 19:26:35


Post by: Lordhat


I wanna know what's up with the Ravenguard. A Shadowcaptain other than Shrike? Intriguing.


games day @ 2009/09/27 19:30:44


Post by: Sgt Deadmeat


I love the look of the FAV but I can't help thinking A) that would be a great chassis for a Halftrack and B) I hope they sell those wheels separately so I can use them for scout car conversions. Although that is easily solved by buying one for A and using the spare wheels for B.


games day @ 2009/09/27 19:40:13


Post by: lasgunpacker


1hadhq wrote:
endtransmission wrote:

The other nice thing they had was something called a F.A.V for the Elysians. It was a small, 6 wheeled jeep type thing that looked a little bit like a Land Speeder Storm hull. Kinda. It's very nice indeed and I want lots... now please. Sadly he kept hiding it whenever cameras were around... I hope someone somewhere got a shot as all I got was hand.

This?


hmm, that FAV looks a whole lot like an M-20 made into a dune buggy. So if you want an up armored FAV, just go with this:
.
(1/48 Tamiya model of the M-20, found here: http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=32556)
Will be much cheaper as well.


games day @ 2009/09/27 19:43:08


Post by: cygnnus


I'll second Blackadder's question. Anyone at GDUK have any idea what the deal is with the Tallarn greens? FW? GW? Any word what they're about?

It does occur to me, though, that they never had a Tallarn figure with a flamer back during the original release, so adding one with a couple of new lasgunners as a "collectors" blister might make sense...

Since they're true greens, they wouldn't look to be part of the work on a plastic kit.

And for a FW piece, that Lord of Change looks pretty mediocre. After the other GD's, I was hoping for more. Dragonforge's Vrock would look to be a heck of a lot nicer IMHO.

Vale,

JohnS


games day @ 2009/09/27 19:44:21


Post by: CadianXV


Oooh, I like that FAV of forgeworlds!

Also, anyone get a pic of that monstrous 40k board they made? I didnt get to gamesday and want to see it!


games day @ 2009/09/27 20:09:40


Post by: 1hadhq


Lordhat wrote:I wanna know what's up with the Ravenguard. A Shadowcaptain other than Shrike? Intriguing.


Maybe:


quote -DM- ( warseer ) :

Just had a very intersting conversation with Warwick Kinrade and he said that IA8 will be Raven Guard vs Orks. Raven Guard are going to be attacking an ork infested planet. He did say that it feature prominately the 10th company i.e. the special char will be the capt of the 10th company. He said theme for this book is definately surgical strike as marines should be.

DM


Seems the RG receives FW attention.

Plus:

quote Mathias ( Sonofcorax ) :

We do indeed have our own news, just got back from GD and a little chat with mr Kinrade. He told me that FW will be releasing resin raven guard shoulder pads and a venerable dread.

So
-shoulderpads
-dread
-landspeeder variant
-storm eagle dropship
-shadow captain ?
-scouts ?





games day @ 2009/09/27 20:31:40


Post by: Brother SRM


Blackadder wrote:Are the new Tallarn from Forgeworld or GW?

GW. Forgeworld has more realistic proportions, as you can see from their existing Tallarn range. I think they might just be test sculpts, but GW said they wanted to do all regiments in plastic.
Here's hoping it's a sign of things to come.


games day @ 2009/09/27 20:34:43


Post by: BrookM


Aye, look at the lasguns, they're ugly Kantrael patterns, not the musket like design favoured by FW.


games day @ 2009/09/27 20:41:31


Post by: jp400


FAV= Fast Attack Vehicle

Special Forces and the Navy use em.


games day @ 2009/09/27 20:50:08


Post by: Alpharius


Hurrah!

One of my two favorite chapters is FINALLY going to get the FW treatment.

Of course, this is bad news for the bank account, but still...

A long time coming for one of the Founding Chapters!


games day @ 2009/09/27 20:57:22


Post by: Moopy


Elysians get updated with the new guard codex, but Krieg (their best seller) doesn't? Dang...

Tallarn do look nice.


games day @ 2009/09/27 21:01:13


Post by: Grimstonefire


To put the Tallern in context, they were surrounded by greens of models that have already been released AFAIK. I assumed they were just existing models, but then I doubt GW would store models from so long ago.

They were in the GW model production area, not FW.

Hardly any models were shown that had not been seen before I believe (including the ones in the FW newsletter), for those not entering golden daemon it would certainly not be worth going to now. The buggy and those tallarn things (it seems) are the only things.


games day @ 2009/09/27 21:03:42


Post by: BrookM


Tallarn make sense, they are the only "old" Guard regiment to get a new piece of art on their description page.


games day @ 2009/09/27 21:11:15


Post by: Stormtrooper X


New Tallarn from GW would be awesome. I've always liked the way that army looks. If it's from FW though then they can bite me. I'm not paying that much for guardsmen. Wish we could get more pics of stuff going on though.


games day @ 2009/09/27 21:15:50


Post by: jp400


If they came out in plastic id have to buy some and add these for my Chaos Renegades:
http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=74


games day @ 2009/09/27 21:36:20


Post by: Agamemnon2


Nice to see the Imperium will finally get its first wheeled vehicle. Looks like the Elysian divergent aesthetic will continue, which is just as well.


games day @ 2009/09/27 22:22:58


Post by: marv335


The FAV will be getting a series of different turrets, and there is a 4 wheel one in the works with a gunner as well.
plus a possibility of a drop pallet for it.
Also, Ork Buggies/Wartracks/Skorchas on the horizon.
And in case anyone asks, the Mini Falcon is a broken Scorpion turret.


games day @ 2009/09/27 22:24:01


Post by: BrookM


A turret? Hmm, pity, I really like it like that. Oh well, can't win them all.


games day @ 2009/09/27 23:33:57


Post by: JohnHwangDD



The Elysian FAV looks like a 10-wheel chassis, and I'd be interested to buy it just for the wheels to make conversions from.


games day @ 2009/09/28 04:50:01


Post by: Sidstyler


How disappointing. The most exciting thing to come from the GDUK, supposedly the biggest and best of them all, is a freaking codex cover and an AFV model from FW.


games day @ 2009/09/28 05:06:49


Post by: BrassScorpion


Based on my own experience and all the reports online from Games Day events all over the world, Games Day 2009 as a whole was a huge disappointment compared to virtually any and all previous Games Day events. The philosophy, budget and presentation of Games Day 2009 was just not up to the usual standards of even the most modest earlier Games Day events. Let's hope the reassurances I've had from GW HQ staff that next year will be different turn out to be true.


games day @ 2009/09/28 06:55:52


Post by: Kanluwen


I am freaking LOVING the Elysian FAV. I've been saving and planning out an Elysian army for awhile, and frankly...this is going to push me even more towards an ISA themed Elysian army.

Stormtroopers/Grenadiers mounted in Valkyries with some Veterans and Guardsmen mounted in FAVs being escorted by top cover?

Yes please.


games day @ 2009/09/28 07:19:45


Post by: Panic


BrassScorpion wrote:Based on my own experience and all the reports online from Games Day events all over the world, Games Day 2009 as a whole was a huge disappointment compared to virtually any and all previous Games Day events. The philosophy, budget and presentation of Games Day 2009 was just not up to the usual standards of even the most modest earlier Games Day events. Let's hope the reassurances I've had from GW HQ staff that next year will be different turn out to be true.


yeah,
People expect too much and GW is damned either way...

If they give us release info in advance and save very little for Gamesday
the interwebs crys "worst GD ever!!1!"

Also if they try to keep secrets and make Gamesday big with news:
interwebs says "stop treating us like children and let us know what's on the horizon, we all have armies to planz"

Panic...


games day @ 2009/09/28 07:27:03


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Don't be so wilfully ignorant Panic.

GW's secrecy has gone way beyond crazy with this latest GDUK.

Their 40K seminar was all about Space Wolves, they wouldn't tell anyone if they were going to release the Seekers/Daemon prince, and they basically didn't answer any questions.

There was nothing on their next release (Skaven) at all and their model cabinets were filled with test-sculpts and one-offs that will never be released. The biggest 'new' info was the confirmation of Tyranids next year.

Why not have Skaven on display? All the new models, ready to go, the designer there to answer questions on the design process? Why not get people hyped about the new release at your single biggest event of the year?

Why not sell the Space Wolf Codex at your single biggest event of the year? Because someone might upload as a PDF after the show? Why not put up a giant neon sign that says "We don't trust our customers!".

Can you imagine if everyone rocked up to E3 and all the publishers had games you knew about ready to play, but wouldn't tell you about upcoming games? Or a car show that only had in-production models because all the new ones were over 3 months away? It wouldn't work.

Well neither does this.


games day @ 2009/09/28 08:01:32


Post by: Elric of Grans


Yeah, they should be careful, because it would be terrible if the Codex were floating around as a pdf already...

*cough*


games day @ 2009/09/28 08:11:58


Post by: Kanluwen


Frankly, they need to start having the Codexes available as PDF downloads to begin with.


games day @ 2009/09/28 08:19:15


Post by: Sidstyler


yeah,
People expect too much and GW is damned either way...

If they give us release info in advance and save very little for Gamesday
the interwebs crys "worst GD ever!!1!"


Exactly what info have they given us in advance that supposedly "ruined" the Games Days this year? They haven't shown us ANTYHING before the Games Days, or during them. We have no info, that's the whole fething problem!

Also if they try to keep secrets and make Gamesday big with news:
interwebs says "stop treating us like children and let us know what's on the horizon, we all have armies to planz"


What big news? Is a codex cover "big news" to you? No one knows anything about the book, or what new models are coming with it. That's not "big news".

And speaking of the seekers and DP, I heard they actually took the models away early on because people were taking pics and asking questions, right? Sounds pretty fething stupid to me, why bring them out at all then? They know this is exactly what people pay to see and then they play keep away like a bunch of immature fething pricks.

Let's hope the reassurances I've had from GW HQ staff that next year will be different turn out to be true.


They won't be if they keep up with this nonsensical no-information campaign.


games day @ 2009/09/28 08:37:27


Post by: BrookM


And here's a better shot of it with an Elysian besides it. I am really liking this design more and more:



games day @ 2009/09/28 08:40:32


Post by: Khornholio


How much LOTR stuff was there? I don't play it, but I'm wondering if they are letting it fall by the wayside or are holding on to that elusive hope that there will be Hobbit movies made in the near future.

I've been to two GDs in my life, and from what I've heard this years circuit was really poor compared to previous years. I can't believe they weren't selling bitz.


games day @ 2009/09/28 12:15:18


Post by: reds8n


You all saw the new WD subscribers mini eh ?


..that'll come in handy eh ?

Picked up some info, ALL the staff were very guarded and cagey.

Spoke to Mr. Cruddace about the Guard codex, asked him about squad Serg. weapons, FAQS, and a few bits and bobs.

Then had a long chat with Matt Ward about playtesting, space marine codex, FAQs and all manner of stuff.

ALL the design studio guys were very pleasant and easy to chat to, i really got the impression they would love to talk about everything they are/plan to work on but their management says NOPE to that.

..so..Telion does not grant stealth to the rest of the unit and Vulkan's master crafting doesn't apply to allies/etc. I beseeched him to add these to the FAQ..guess we'll see. They have a very odd view of FAQs and errata, for example he viewed the Telion granting the ability to the squad and similar as deliberate misreading of the rules and, apparently, they don't feel this is in their remit to "fix".

Extraordinary. I think I, and the gents stood next to me ear wigging, were genuinely struck dumb at that/some of the responses.

more thoughts and things later.

[Thumb - gd0919.jpg]


games day @ 2009/09/28 12:29:42


Post by: BrookM


So what was the gits reply on squad sergeant weapons? "Uh oh spaghettio!"


games day @ 2009/09/28 12:50:00


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Probably something along the lines of:

"They could take Lasguns in the last Codex? Never knew that..."


games day @ 2009/09/28 13:00:25


Post by: reds8n


Well...along the lines of :

In the GW/40k setting, Sergs./squad leaders typically ( in the Imperium at least) have different weapon payloads/configurations, this is viewed as part of the "vision" of the setting, at least with regards to the Imperium.

...and....Robin had a long chat with....people.....at GW..and the majority of the metal/special serg models aren't modelled with lasguns....so..the rest is history.


Long story short : suits and accountants said so.

Robin is sound though, very interesting and enthusiastic to speak to.


games day @ 2009/09/28 13:01:26


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Money-men said don't allow Lasguns?

Sorry, I don't buy that. I don't believe the money-men would have cared either way.

They just forgot.


games day @ 2009/09/28 13:06:48


Post by: Da Boss


Yeah, gotta say, that makes very little sense. I mean, they've not released many ork nobs with shootas either, but they put the option in the codex anyway.

The corporate culture at GW is fascinating.


games day @ 2009/09/28 13:39:48


Post by: Kilkrazy


JohnHwangDD wrote:
The Elysian FAV looks like a 10-wheel chassis, and I'd be interested to buy it just for the wheels to make conversions from.


Trumpeter make LAV wheel upgrade kits.



Unfortunately it is £1 a wheel.

http://www.ask-models.com/shop/trumpeter/upgrade-sets/trumpeter-1/35-lav-series-8x8-tyres-325/85/r16-xml/prod_1922.html

It may be cheaper in the USA.


games day @ 2009/09/28 13:42:09


Post by: warboss


secrecy bad. atv good! we're one step closer to halo imperial guard UNSC marines now that we'll have a warthog equivalent!


games day @ 2009/09/28 13:51:40


Post by: Cheese Elemental


Killkrazy: That pic link doesn't work.

On-topic: This has got me excited. Not everything I hoped for, but plastic Tallarn, the Elysian vehicle, FW Raven Guard, and new Tyranids made my day.


games day @ 2009/09/28 13:54:25


Post by: reds8n


Cheese Elemental wrote:but plastic Tallarn, .


Don't think so, pretty certain those are old/practise sculpts.


games day @ 2009/09/28 13:57:12


Post by: aka_mythos


I think its ashame that the most exciting stuff to come out of GDUK was from FW. Just going to show they're more in touch with rule of cool and know how to excite us.

I didn't see it before here, but someone on warseer snapped a picture of the Index for IA:8. Based on the index someone snapped a shot of we have quite a bit in the book... http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3986518&postcount=59

Elysian ATV, Heavy Lift Valkyrie, and an updated list.
Raven Guard... variant Land Speeders, Storm Eagle Drop Ship, and somethings for scouts... oh and a special character, my bet is a scout company captian.
Orks... Goffs, Evil Sunz, and Deathskullz all seem to be represented... possibility for full lists?





games day @ 2009/09/28 14:00:49


Post by: Cheese Elemental


reds8n wrote:
Cheese Elemental wrote:but plastic Tallarn, .


Don't think so, pretty certain those are old/practise sculpts.

I remain optimistic.


games day @ 2009/09/28 14:18:19


Post by: Her Majesty's Buxom Commissar


Cheese Elemental wrote:
reds8n wrote:Don't think so, pretty certain those are old/practise sculpts.

I remain optimistic.

Your optimism is misplaced. Not only are they test sculpts, but there is no way they would be released in plastic anyway as GW don't produce plastics from 1:1 greens. All GW plastics these days are done via direct CAD or three-up sculpting.


games day @ 2009/09/28 14:18:20


Post by: covenant84


Does anyone know if forgeworld will be releasing another masterclass book? Last years was really good.


games day @ 2009/09/28 14:33:01


Post by: aka_mythos


Her Majesty's Buxom Commissar wrote:
Cheese Elemental wrote:
reds8n wrote:Don't think so, pretty certain those are old/practise sculpts.

I remain optimistic.

Your optimism is misplaced. Not only are they test sculpts, but there is no way they would be released in plastic anyway as GW don't produce plastics from 1:1 greens. All GW plastics these days are done via direct CAD or three-up sculpting.
I think the reason to hold out hope is that GW... I mean Jervis has voiced interest in producing for plastic guard regiments... though its a ways off. I think these are more of a prelude to that sentiment. Maybe the way these test sculpts turned out is why they're considering revisiting the other regiments.


games day @ 2009/09/28 14:52:26


Post by: Her Majesty's Buxom Commissar


aka_mythos wrote:I think the reason to hold out hope is that GW... I mean Jervis has voiced interest in producing for plastic guard regiments... though its a ways off. I think these are more of a prelude to that sentiment. Maybe the way these test sculpts turned out is why they're considering revisiting the other regiments.

While it is true GW are planning plastic Regiments, and that they are a LONG ways off, it can be dangerous reading things into trainee test sculpts. What's interesting (or not) is that Tallarn were not one of the Regments specifically named when Jervis talked of doing plastic Regiments for Guard.


games day @ 2009/09/28 14:55:22


Post by: Agamemnon2


I think the current GW method has a lot of problems, one of the major one is them deciding that since they can't show off new stuff in the cases, they'll put a bunch of test sculpts there. This leads to disappointed fans, endless false rumors and the like. Just recall how many times we had to quash the "look, new DE haemonculi!" rumor

And if GW is worried about rumors affecting their sales, fake ones do it just as convincingly as real ones.

Also, I quite like the !Squat.


games day @ 2009/09/28 15:02:33


Post by: aka_mythos


Her Majesty's Buxom Commissar wrote:
aka_mythos wrote:I think the reason to hold out hope is that GW... I mean Jervis has voiced interest in producing for plastic guard regiments... though its a ways off. I think these are more of a prelude to that sentiment. Maybe the way these test sculpts turned out is why they're considering revisiting the other regiments.

While it is true GW are planning plastic Regiments, and that they are a LONG ways off, it can be dangerous reading things into trainee test sculpts. What's interesting (or not) is that Tallarn were not one of the Regments specifically named when Jervis talked of doing plastic Regiments for Guard.
That is true... but one could read in to that as... if you're already redoing them, why mention "planning" to redo them when you've planned and moved along? Or Tallarn could have slipped his mind. Or he omitted them because they are being done and due to the 3 month window GW loves so much these days, he purposefully omitted. I'm not saying that this is the case but its all possibilities.

I'm not saying GW is rational, but if they were... their logical choice for plastic regiments would next be Tallarn and Vallhallans since both have special characters; unlike mordians/praetorians, steel legions, etc.


games day @ 2009/09/28 15:14:35


Post by: Her Majesty's Buxom Commissar


Agamemnon2 wrote:I think the current GW method has a lot of problems, one of the major one is them deciding that since they can't show off new stuff in the cases, they'll put a bunch of test sculpts there. This leads to disappointed fans, endless false rumors and the like. Just recall how many times we had to quash the "look, new DE haemonculi!" rumor

GW have "always" had test sculpts and miscellaneous greens in their Design Studio display cabinets, particularly at events in the UK. It is quite literally a showcase of what they do at the Studio. The problem is people (on the internet) can't seem to recognise them as test sculpts. There's usually a big card with the sculptor's name right next to the models which sometimes gets cropped in photos or people see test sculpts in isolation without any explanation... like on BOLS. People have to stop and think and not just take things at face value.

aka_mythos wrote:That is true... but one could read in to that as... if you're already redoing them, why mention "planning" to redo them when you've planned and moved along? Or Tallarn could have slipped his mind. Or he omitted them because they are being done and due to the 3 month window GW loves so much these days, he purposefully omitted. I'm not saying that this is the case but its all possibilities.

I think that's a liiiittle bit too much reading things into it that aren't there. I mean, fair enough points all, but just a bit of a long bow personally.


games day @ 2009/09/28 15:14:38


Post by: LuigiX


reds8n wrote: You all saw the new WD subscribers mini eh ?


..that'll come in handy eh ?



Are they seriously issueing a squat with WD subscriptions, or is this a joke? Either way, it's pretty funny.


games day @ 2009/09/28 15:18:37


Post by: BrassScorpion


Yes, the new White Dwarf subscription model of the White Dwarf character, Grombrindal, is sculpted as a 40K adeptus-type tech dwarf and long ago those were indeed part of the Squat model range.


games day @ 2009/09/28 15:20:16


Post by: aka_mythos


Her Majesty's Buxom Commissar wrote:
aka_mythos wrote:That is true... but one could read in to that as... if you're already redoing them, why mention "planning" to redo them when you've planned and moved along? Or Tallarn could have slipped his mind. Or he omitted them because they are being done and due to the 3 month window GW loves so much these days, he purposefully omitted. I'm not saying that this is the case but its all possibilities.

I think that's a liiiittle bit too much reading things into it that aren't there. I mean, fair enough points all, but just a bit of a long bow personally.
I agree it reads into it a bit much... but it does beg the question why they were omited if they have a special character that puts them more to the forefront. I think if GW had less interest in Tallarn than other regiments we would have seen Alraheim replaced with say Gaunt for Tanith.


games day @ 2009/09/28 15:36:28


Post by: fynn


But dont forget, that FW are producing a range of tallarn mini's, so dont get your hopes up that gw will start doing plastics just yet.
and just in case, heres a link to em
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/TALLARN.html


games day @ 2009/09/28 15:40:11


Post by: BrookM


Those FW Tallarn haven't been updated in years.


games day @ 2009/09/28 16:16:51


Post by: GrimTeef


Gorkamorka re-release? Is that a joke? I didn't think they'd ever seriously remake that game. I'd love it if they did, and the minis would probably be incredible if Space Hulk is any indication, but it seems doubtful... Unless the IP and copyright of Gorkamorka is in danger soon...


games day @ 2009/09/28 16:26:45


Post by: Agamemnon2


Yes, it's a joke.


games day @ 2009/09/28 16:45:09


Post by: Necros


I don't think it would should be all that difficult to put together new plastic guard armies. All they gotta do is an infantry box, command box and 1 sprue for heavy weapon gunners and use the same old weapon sprue as cadians and catachans. they could even do metals for the command if they wanna. And maybe toss in 1-2 metal tank commanders too.

They could even get away with mordians or steel legion using cadian chest & legs with just a different arm/gun/head sprue


games day @ 2009/09/28 16:49:38


Post by: JohnHwangDD


Kilkrazy wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:The Elysian FAV looks like a 10-wheel chassis, and I'd be interested to buy it just for the wheels to make conversions from.

Trumpeter make LAV wheel upgrade kits.

Unfortunately it is £1 a wheel.

$2 per wheel is what it worked out to buying a LAV for the "face" detail. The problem is that RL wheels are too narrow for a good look, whereas the GW wheels look chunkier. Depends on the price & bitz I guess.
____

reds8n wrote:
Cheese Elemental wrote:but plastic Tallarn, .

Don't think so, pretty certain those are old/practise sculpts.

That sucks.

Not that I really need more Tallarn, but still..


games day @ 2009/09/28 18:02:32


Post by: Ozymandias


GrimTeef wrote:Gorkamorka re-release? Is that a joke? I didn't think they'd ever seriously remake that game. I'd love it if they did, and the minis would probably be incredible if Space Hulk is any indication, but it seems doubtful... Unless the IP and copyright of Gorkamorka is in danger soon...


It's totally a joke. But my rumor about the Chaos codex is pure fact.


games day @ 2009/09/28 18:22:51


Post by: Fishboy


I find it funny how much faith people put in a conversation with Jervis when just last month he boldly lied to people faces when he said the "secret" coming out in 2 weeks was not going to be Space Hulk. There is much he can not say so dont put much faith in anything he or the company voices!!


games day @ 2009/09/28 18:34:05


Post by: BrookM


NDA's are more powerful than ever before over at GW.


games day @ 2009/09/28 20:49:59


Post by: Alpharius


So, apparently they could have "done Squats right" then?


games day @ 2009/09/28 20:57:11


Post by: JohnHwangDD


GW can do anything, if they choose to.

The problem for many of us players is that GW chooses NOT to.


games day @ 2009/09/28 21:05:40


Post by: Kilkrazy


The tyres on my 1/35th scale LAV150 are 10mm thick.


games day @ 2009/09/28 21:53:22


Post by: Grimstonefire


I was standing next to a guy that was discussing the LAV in some detail. Unfortunately I'm not a 40k player and have no real interest, Only things I vaguely remember overhearing were mentions of some sort of plasma weapon for a turret option. Possibly tracks as well?

Only things I learned from FW at games day were that the rumour that they could be making armies for warhammer races/ empires that don't currently have them is a real possibility. The GW developers were unusually silent on Chaos Dwarfs, considering last year all I got was a 'we'll do them eventually' answer as standard...

Also that Mark Bedford had some sketches of a rather bland nurgle herald (fantasy), but didn't say when it would be done.


games day @ 2009/09/28 22:28:23


Post by: The Power Cosmic


So that's really all we got from the UK gamesday: A pic of the 'nid codex and an Ultramarine movie (with no shots of the actual movie, btw)? So GW decides that for it's biggest, most important gamesday to treat fans to that?!

WTF?


games day @ 2009/09/28 22:35:53


Post by: Khornholio




I'm stoked about the first new Squat model to be made in, what 18 years.


games day @ 2009/09/28 22:50:58


Post by: Leggy


How would one get hold of that squat model, exactly?


games day @ 2009/09/28 23:12:03


Post by: Warlord Imp


order a years subscription of White Dwarf starting November I beleive. Confirm with GW first before you subscribe.


games day @ 2009/09/28 23:13:49


Post by: temprus


Alpharius wrote:So, apparently they could have "done Squats right" then?
Looks like a Dwarf in a flight suit, so no, I would say they were honest about not being able to do Squats right. I wish they would try though, I would collect a decent looking "Squat Retcon" army. I hope the Goblin is a separate bit too, at least I have a shot at that happening.

Leggy, you have to be a current subscriber or get a subscription, then you have the privilege to buy one starting November 1st. It is not free unless they changed their policy again.


games day @ 2009/09/29 01:57:24


Post by: BrassScorpion


I had some Squats from the Rogue Trader days, plastics and metal Chaos Squats. They were fun, but trust me, you're not missing that much and there are plenty of other cooler models available to collect. I sold my unused Squats years ago to a friend and the painted ones went a few years ago at the early GW in-store flea markets for customers (Bizarre Bazaar).


games day @ 2009/09/29 02:27:34


Post by: bhsman


The Power Cosmic wrote:So that's really all we got from the UK gamesday: A pic of the 'nid codex and an Ultramarine movie (with no shots of the actual movie, btw)? So GW decides that for it's biggest, most important gamesday to treat fans to that?!

WTF?


-Tyranid codex officially confirmed for January as well as the codex cover revealed, something that took a lot longer with Space Wolves to confirm
-Plastics of the new Steeds of Slaanesh and Daemon Prince plastic kits
-Loads of new FW information, particularly awesome for Raven Guard, Elysian IG, and Ork players
-New WD model
-40k movie

I mean, yea, if all you cared about was rumors this would seem paltry if not already loads better than the last few GDs, but they're also about the gaming events and Golden Daemon and such.


games day @ 2009/09/29 03:05:39


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Little bit of a repost here, but it's very apropos:

Wouldn't it just be easier for GW to preview their own books and upcoming releases rather than hiding them awa all the time?

Maybe they could do it at some big once-a-year event like a games... day or something. I dunno. You come up with a good name. But at these 'Games Days' they could have the whole new range on display, painted perfectly, to show off what the new kits could do - maybe even run demo games with the new Army Books/Codices, offer advanced release kits as prizes, that sort've thing. They could use theses 'Games Days' to have Q&A's with the writers of their books, giving us an incite into the design process and why certain decisions could be made, and even brief looks into the future of the rules with what great new stuff they've got coming up for us. They could show off upcoming models and collector's pieces at these 'Games Days' as well, and give all the attendees something to go home and tell their friends about, so everyone gets all buzzed about the upcoming releases.

I think I might write to GW about this 'Games Day' idea and... oh wait...

Crap.


games day @ 2009/09/29 05:10:08


Post by: Makaleth


Well,
we can hope that the feedback from the Gamesday will be taken on,

That's a major event for them,
they really should take note of the new direction and whether people enjoyed it more or less.

We can only hope.


games day @ 2009/09/29 11:39:58


Post by: Sidstyler


Well we're screwed then I guess, since we all know how well GW listens to feedback.


games day @ 2009/09/29 13:25:55


Post by: bhsman


H.B.M.C. wrote:Little bit of a repost here, but it's very apropos:

Wouldn't it just be easier for GW to preview their own books and upcoming releases rather than hiding them awa all the time?

Maybe they could do it at some big once-a-year event like a games... day or something. I dunno. You come up with a good name. But at these 'Games Days' they could have the whole new range on display, painted perfectly, to show off what the new kits could do - maybe even run demo games with the new Army Books/Codices, offer advanced release kits as prizes, that sort've thing. They could use theses 'Games Days' to have Q&A's with the writers of their books, giving us an incite into the design process and why certain decisions could be made, and even brief looks into the future of the rules with what great new stuff they've got coming up for us. They could show off upcoming models and collector's pieces at these 'Games Days' as well, and give all the attendees something to go home and tell their friends about, so everyone gets all buzzed about the upcoming releases.

I think I might write to GW about this 'Games Day' idea and... oh wait...

Crap.


Yes. Gamesday. A day for gaming. If you want more confirmation of rumours you should inquire about a Rumourday. Until then, if you keep trying to talk with your tongue in your cheek so much you're liable to bite it off.


games day @ 2009/09/29 17:06:14


Post by: Panic


yeah,
RumourDay sounds awesome.
But you know there will be interweb complaints about the lack of games going on...

Panic...


games day @ 2009/09/29 17:27:00


Post by: Platuan4th


Panic wrote:RumourDay


Wasn't that kind of the original point of the Studio Open Day?


games day @ 2009/09/29 20:37:59


Post by: BrookM


Only Studio Open Day is about as open as the panties of a nun.


games day @ 2009/09/29 20:39:18


Post by: Platuan4th


BrookM wrote:Only Studio Open Day is about as open as the panties of a nun.


Well, there was this one time...


games day @ 2009/09/29 20:46:34


Post by: combatmedic


If they would just take a page from blizzard in terms of what they show off, announce, and demo, maybe GD would be worth going to.

But then it would give Jarvis a reason to make a 4 hour speech on how special characters are important.


games day @ 2009/09/29 20:50:47


Post by: JohnHwangDD


BrookM wrote:Only Studio Open Day is about as open as the panties of a nun.

That depends - is she dressed like a Catholic choirboy?


games day @ 2009/09/29 21:29:45


Post by: Scottywan82


I've got a great idea. Let's get off topic AND be really offensive!


games day @ 2009/09/29 22:28:29


Post by: BrookM


Talking about penguins is offensive? Tapdancing Christ on a life raft you guys are sensitive..


games day @ 2009/09/29 22:41:10


Post by: carmachu


Agamemnon2 wrote:I think the current GW method has a lot of problems, one of the major one is them deciding that since they can't show off new stuff in the cases, they'll put a bunch of test sculpts there. This leads to disappointed fans, endless false rumors and the like. Just recall how many times we had to quash the "look, new DE haemonculi!" rumor

And if GW is worried about rumors affecting their sales, fake ones do it just as convincingly as real ones.



The problem is their policy of 3 month window and hiding stuff IS affecting sales too I bet. I cant be the only one that just doesnt give a crap about whats coming up, becuase of all the secrecy. I'd rather work on stuff that I know is out then worry about whats coming.


games day @ 2009/09/30 01:51:35


Post by: Hollismason


The seven dwarfs decide to go on vacation and visiti the vatican while there they meet the pope and Doc decides to ask him some questions

"Pope are there any midget nuns in america? " Doc Says

" No there are not Doc" Saysthe pope
"are there any midget nuns in europe?" doc asks
" No Doc none in Europe" the pope says

" WEll are there any midget nuns in all of the world?" asks doc

" No i dont think there are" the pope says

At this time the dwarfs immediately start singing

" DOPEY fethed A PENGUIN, DOPE fethed A PENGUINE"


games day @ 2009/10/01 18:23:09


Post by: Shepherd23


-Tyranid codex officially confirmed for January as well as the codex cover revealed, something that took a lot longer with Space Wolves to confirm
-Plastics of the new Steeds of Slaanesh and Daemon Prince plastic kits
-Loads of new FW information, particularly awesome for Raven Guard, Elysian IG, and Ork players
-New WD model
-40k movie

I mean, yea, if all you cared about was rumors this would seem paltry if not already loads better than the last few GDs, but they're also about the gaming events and Golden Daemon and such.



I think that the biggest reason that EVERYONE is complaining is that Gamesday this year had a definite downturn in expectations from all previous years. I was a Baltimore GD last year and I saw new FW, Dark Elves codex AND minis and all kinds of other new stuff. This year we got a squig cake that was not even done for GW, but was commissioned by the creators of Warhammer online. That is really sad considering that the company is right there in Baltimore and has existed for years before they became nationally known with the TV show. The GD UK had more info on release stuff for both FW and GW and even that was lackluster. The seminars for both where basically a couple of guys standing up front saying "We are going to release some stuff over the next few years." and "No comment." If they could have been half as informative as they where last year that would have been better than the nothing they gave this year. And last year was pretty lame compared to previous years.

I have never understood the attitude that GW takes with practically everything and it truly does make you wonder how they have maintained the fan base that they have considering how they treat the people that buy their products. I cannot think of any other company that treats customers the way GW does and still exists.