Well, it's about time that they tried something like this. But they'll probably want to market it to a larger crowd (read: kids under 12), so it probably won't be very violent.
Wont be very violent? It has to be violent its friggin WARHAMMER 40k! Is there any clips or shots of the movie yet? Im honestly one that hopes this movie isnt a pile of junk on a dvd. Ill be upset if I buy it and it turns out to be as such
I imagine that this movie will consist of Marysue Calgar killing the avatar and then a bloodthirster and then he'll go choke an avatar to death and then he will go kill a c'tan or two.
Oh dear....now this is where its gonna really hurt
After years of "stealing" from other genres to create the beast we all know as WH40K, just how they are gonna make a movie that won't be directly compared to the things it has taken "inspiration" from is beyond me....
Lets see, Ultramarines vs Nids.....no, that would be Aliens, and just about every spin off from that great concept!
Not to mention, who wants to watch a film thats all about Hur Hurr lets kill everything.....and all the SM cliches that we know and love and accept as part of the game?
There's been amillion threads about a WH40K film, and it wasn't for laughs that people said such a film needed to be about something more than Marines...maybe a film based on Eisenhorn or Ravenor....
They have been handing out flyers for this all day at GDUK. As long as it's better than the live action shorts they did years back it's got to be worth something, right?
Heard about this about a year ago; good to know it's actually being made.
The Bionicle clip has nice visuals, but damn the animation is jerky. Here's hoping they get it to look a bit more natural for this Marine movie.
I'd guess they're fighting Orks for this one. There was talk of a Black Reach tie-in a while ago, which I think would work well. Keeps promoting that box set and two of their most popular ranges, and Orks vs. Marines never gets old to me.
I really can't imagine this being anygood. Sorry to be negative but like many things involving Ultramarines it will probably very shallow. I expect it will just be the heroic space marines kill everything else.
I imagine that this movie will consist of Marysue Calgar killing the avatar and then a bloodthirster and then he'll go choke an avatar to death and then he will go kill a c'tan or two.
lol my thoughts exactly.
Plot: Our hero, the Ultra sick Lord of the Ultra Marines (Ben Afflec) falls for a hot alien chick (Megan Fox). He is torn between his duties to server and protect his chapter and brethren of the Ultra Marines, obey the undying living-half-dead-demi-god-Emperor of mankind ...or hooking up with a really hot alien chick (I mean cmon did you see Transformers? Yeah I'd hit that 2x). Along the way he meets a rag tag bunch of tough but lovable bunch of space marines. Their duty; to protect the human race from the endless kill bad guys ...and to party dudes! Cowabunga!
But, will they be enough to stop the forces of evil.... the immortal Gods of Chaos; the Blood God Khorne (Oprah Winfrey), Lord of decay and sick stuff Nurgle (Rosie O'donell), the Dark lord of pleasure Slaanesh (Madonna) and the god of change Tzeentch (Tom Cruise). Other gods include Star god C'tan (Chris Kattan), the God of war Khaine (Nicolas Cage) and the Laughing God (Jim Carrey).
CAST (as decided by Hollywood)
Marneus "blue" Calgar - Ben Afflec
Knight Captain Kato SICKarius - Matt Daemon
Uriel Ventris and Sgt. Pasanius - Jay and Silent Bob
Master of the Forge - Jessie James from Monster's Garage
Sgt Telion - Terry Bradshaw
Primarch Robateallleax Guilliman - Steven Colbert
The Emperor of Mankind - Ron Jeremy
Horus the Primarch - John Lithgow
Ciaphas Cain - Seth Rogen (uh huh huh huh huh huuh)
OTHER SPACE MARINES:
Salamanders - Chris Rock, Ice-Cube, Kanye West (first guy in movie to die)
Crimson Fist Lord Pedro Kantor - John Leguizamo
Anung Un Rama wrote:Well, it's about time that they tried something like this. But they'll probably want to market it to a larger crowd (read: kids under 12), so it probably won't be very violent.
Not violent? NOT VIOLENT?! THIS - IS - BLACK - REACH!!!!
Seriousl though? How do you think they could even pull off a non-violent 40k movie? Even PG-13 films tend to be PACKED with awesome violence, albeit low on the blood factor, a lot of the time now. Considering this movie would only contain "Animated Sci-Fi" violence and most of that will be non human death I could see this actually being rated PG-13.
I doubt it will be rated though...
Delephont wrote:Oh dear....now this is where its gonna really hurt ... Not to mention, who wants to watch a film thats all about Hur Hurr lets kill everything.....
Um... dude, we play 40k. We all want to see a movie about hurrp-a-durp space marines killing everything.
Well, it can hardly be worse than the Mutant Chronicles film
But seriously, this _could_ be pretty good, if done as CGI motion capture. Pray they don't do it live, coz the first thing they'll discover is that space marine armour is totally impractical to move/act in...
Delephont wrote:Yeah I paint miniatures, doesn't mean I want to see a film about paint drying.....
Paint drying? Not likely. Im with kungfuhustler. EVERYONE loves the opening mini movies of the DOW games. Those are sweet. The new vid for the DOW2 is just ass kicking. Obviously the movie WILL need some kind of story, and I hope its at least decent, with some good fluff.
YEA done like those with a story line, how could it fail lol. Never seen the WAR video tho, that was pretty sweet. I chuckled when the Orc was smashing that poor human on the stairs
LunaHound wrote:GW really beat Blizzard this time on expanding the franchise .
Not really considering GW is doing a straight to DVD CGI movie produced by a company that doesn't even have a website and Blizzard is doing a full length, live action, major motion picture that is being produced by Legendary Films (300, The Dark Knight, Watchmen). I'd hardly say they're going to expand beyond Blizzard. This does not mean however that I am not excited about the movie. Even if it is Ultramarines.
MeanGreenStompa wrote:If it's made along these lines, but with some attempt at a storyline as well (unleash Abnett...) then I see no reason why it won't be grand.
It's an Ultramarines movie, so I see them getting McNeil to write it.
MeanGreenStompa wrote:If it's made along these lines, but with some attempt at a storyline as well (unleash Abnett...) then I see no reason why it won't be grand.
It's an Ultramarines movie, so I see them getting McNeil to write it.
I certainly hope not. My 6 year old could out write that hack.
Those cut scenes were are awesome, but......they work so well because they are cut scenes....you can only watch a movie and go "wow, arn't these graphics great" for so long....thats why story line is ssooooo important.
A film that is not geared solely towards those that know WH40K intimately will need a story that quickly introduces new comers to the world of WH40K....
This is where I imagine the whole game will come tumbling down....I hope I'm wrong, but seeing how so many cross over films (from Comic, or Toy brands, Transformers, GI-Joe etc) seem to be failing.....
I'm going to remain optomistic. The movie could easily start with a cut-scene much like in the DOW games and then cut into character development, which will hopefully short.
I could see this being a 70 minute non-stop action flick quite easily and I really hope that is the direction they take with this. Where is the best place to introduce an ultramarine? On the battlefield! How do you gain a sense of attachment to the character? By seeing haw well he kills stuff and by the quality of his "one liners"!
If they too this approach to the film it would probably be a hit, but I'm guessing they did not and that is why this will be a straight to dvd release. I am afraid they are going to over explain everything and dillute what could be a great war/action film.
This movie hopefully will not go too far out of it's way to explain the universe of 40k to people who don't know much/anything about it. If the director/producer decide to really show off the awesomeness of 40k then that alone will spark the interest of those who didn't know much about it and perhaps those people will be inspired to go out and discover the 40k universe on their own.
Anung Un Rama wrote:Well, it's about time that they tried something like this. But they'll probably want to market it to a larger crowd (read: kids under 12), so it probably won't be very violent.
Not violent? NOT VIOLENT?! THIS - IS - BLACK - REACH!!!!
Seriousl though? How do you think they could even pull off a non-violent 40k movie? Even PG-13 films tend to be PACKED with awesome violence, albeit low on the blood factor, a lot of the time now. Considering this movie would only contain "Animated Sci-Fi" violence and most of that will be non human death I could see this actually being rated PG-13.
I doubt it will be rated though...
Lets be realistic, a hollywood writer can introduce you to the 40k universe during the opening credits. Ive seen movies do that a million times. You watch for a few minutes PRESTO you know WHY they are here. Simple. There is no reason to dilute the movie with background fluff that only core gamers care to know.
As long as the movie is accurate to the fluff, looks good (which it will cmon) and has a good story Ill be happy and buy the damn thing. Unless GW thinks its worth 40 bucks. Then they can kiss my ass
Blizzard's Warcraft movie will be nothing compared to this, IMO. 40k is far less derivative than WC, which has become Generica: Magic, Swords, and Ridiculous Eyebrows.
Idiots.
But anyway, I still have the first two Bionicle movies on VHS, and they still look awesome and the writing isn't that bad, even though the ending was deus ex machina.
Delephont wrote:
Not to mention, who wants to watch a film thats all about Hur Hurr lets kill everything.....and all the SM cliches that we know and love and accept as part of the game?
Worked for Blackhawk Down. Really though, that movie is basically a unit of Kasrkin Stormtroopers dropping into an Ork city to kill the Warlord before his Waaagh picks up steam, underestimating the opposition, and having to fight their way out of endless hordes of Shoota Boyz.
Looking at that Dawn of War 2 cinematic makes me cringe, and further reinforces my view that anything involving Space Marines will appear totally ridiculous. They run around fighting as reckless individuals before dropping like flies to just a few Eldar, and I'm supposed to believe that these guys have decades (or even centuries) of combat experience, regular training that would make Navy SEALs cry, and armor protection good enough to justify not diving for cover? Gimme a break.
Damnatus did a better job of suspending my disbelief.
Maybe this will turn out like the G.I. Joe movie: I'll see it with my expectations in the gutter, and find myself ever-so-slightly pleased that it's not MADE OF FAIL.
But if it's not a musical, expect G1 transformers level violence, with lots of explosions but endless shots of people missing one another and being knocked out by gunfire (but never killed).
It will start with a day inside the Ultramarine's base, where the Ultramarines (at least 12 main characters, all with wildly different accents and slight differences in colour to tell them apart) are cracking jokes about various trivial things. The old warhorse (with a Southern American drawl) is being picked on by the younger Marines about how he might be passed his prime. Meanwhile, the Marine in the wheelchair is helping to come up with a new idea that is sure to defeat the evil warriors of Chaos!
The Ultramarine's symbol appears on screen, and then flips over to reveal an 8-pointed Chaos star, and we're taken by the home base of the Decepti... Chaosicons... Chaos, where their leader is angry that his latest plans to foil the Ultramarines failed. There are 5 Chaos Marine characters, an evil psychotic leader, his sycophant follower, two 'Warriors' who share personalities and a goofy looking side-kick who always screws up. So the side-kick screws up, and a whole lot of water ends up being dumped on the Chaos Commander. He's about to yell at his side-kick (but cause no actual harm, because violence is wrong kiddies) when he stumbles upon an idea - they can use hydro-electricity to open a rift into the Warp and summon the energy spirits (can't have Daemons in a kids show). And the new device that the Wheelchair Ultramarine invented will be the best way to obtain that energy!!! But the Ultramarine's have to be distracted first so they can sneak into the Ultramarine base and steal it, so he sends out his hopeless side-kick (at the protest of his sycophant follow) to lead the troops into (non-lethal) battle to bring the Ultramarines away from their base.
This works, with every single Ultramarine rolling out (except the Wheelchair Ultramarine, who has to stay behind) to meet the forces of Chaos.
During the battle the stupid Chaos side-kick reveals to Ultramus Prime that their attack is a diversion. The Ultramarines abandon the battle (note that no one has died or even been injured yet - but DAMN have there been a lot of explosions) and head back to base.
Then, in the film's climax, the two warrior Chaos Marines who share the same personality (because writing two distinct Warrior types is so hard...) infiltrate the base and confront Ultrawheels. Ultrawheels, despite his handicap, uses twin bolters to fight off the invading Chaos Marines. He won't kill them mind you, just hold them off long enough for the rest of the Ultramarines to return before the Chaos guys retreat (having taken and caused no casualties).
Then he'll say something along the lines of "Well brothers, it is indeed true that one is never handicapped as long as they have faith in the Emperor!", and the camera will pan back as all the Ultramarine's laugh at the wheelchair Ultramarine's joke (which wasn't a joke).
But if it's not a musical, expect G1 transformers level violence, with lots of explosions but endless shots of people missing one another and being knocked out by gunfire (but never killed).
It will start with a day inside the Ultramarine's base, where the Ultramarines (at least 12 main characters, all with wildly different accents and slight differences in colour to tell them apart) are cracking jokes about various trivial things. The old warhorse (with a Southern American drawl) is being picked on by the younger Marines about how he might be passed his prime. Meanwhile, the Marine in the wheelchair is helping to come up with a new idea that is sure to defeat the evil warriors of Chaos!
The Ultramarine's symbol appears on screen, and then flips over to reveal an 8-pointed Chaos star, and we're taken by the home base of the Decepti... Chaosicons... Chaos, where their leader is angry that his latest plans to foil the Ultramarines failed. There are 5 Chaos Marine characters, an evil psychotic leader, his sycophant follower, two 'Warriors' who share personalities and a goofy looking side-kick who always screws up. So the side-kick screws up, and a whole lot of water ends up being dumped on the Chaos Commander. He's about to yell at his side-kick (but cause no actual harm, because violence is wrong kiddies) when he stumbles upon an idea - they can use hydro-electricity to open a rift into the Warp and summon the energy spirits (can't have Daemons in a kids show). And the new device that the Wheelchair Ultramarine invented will be the best way to obtain that energy!!! But the Ultramarine's have to be distracted first so they can sneak into the Ultramarine base and steal it, so he sends out his hopeless side-kick (at the protest of his sycophant follow) to lead the troops into (non-lethal) battle to bring the Ultramarines away from their base.
This works, with every single Ultramarine rolling out (except the Wheelchair Ultramarine, who has to stay behind) to meet the forces of Chaos.
During the battle the stupid Chaos side-kick reveals to Ultramus Prime that their attack is a diversion. The Ultramarines abandon the battle (note that no one has died or even been injured yet - but DAMN have there been a lot of explosions) and head back to base.
Then, in the film's climax, the two warrior Chaos Marines who share the same personality (because writing two distinct Warrior types is so hard...) infiltrate the base and confront Ultrawheels. Ultrawheels, despite his handicap, uses twin bolters to fight off the invading Chaos Marines. He won't kill them mind you, just hold them off long enough for the rest of the Ultramarines to return before the Chaos guys retreat (having taken and caused no casualties).
Then he'll say something along the lines of "Well brothers, it is indeed true that one is never handicapped as long as they have faith in the Emperor!", and the camera will pan back as all the Ultramarine's laugh at the wheelchair Ultramarine's joke (which wasn't a joke).
Well that saved me 5 bucks. (This movie will probably end up in the bargain bin.)
H.B.M.C. wrote:But if it's not a musical, expect G1 transformers level violence, with lots of explosions but endless shots of people missing one another and being knocked out by gunfire (but never killed).
Unless you count the movie, which kills off quite a bit of both sides.
I'm all for a movie....but......come on.....ULTRAMARINES the movie?
They could use absolutely ANYTHING but they used Ultramarines? Why no something more manlie like, Space Wolves, or, I don't know, Grots?!
I reckon it'll be Ultramarines fighting the Orks and I'm guessing it'll be released to tie in with the release of the Space Marine game next year, which is Ultramarines fighting Orks (see where I'm coming from?).
I am going to remain cautiously optimistic about this. Although not an Ultramarines player I can't deny that Space Marines are the coolest think about 40K and although there are chapters with more character (Wolves, Dark/Blood Angels) it should be good to see Space Marines kicking ass. I'm setting my expectation bar as the intro CGI from the first DOW game. I still think this is pretty cool (although it was surpassed by DOW 2 CGI) and I'd be happy for a 70 minute battle scene like that. If it does look like Bionicle though I'll cry .
As long as it doesn't turn into "the blu spase mahrien on the blue biek" >_>
I'm hoping they don't do stuff like the stories in the Codex, but it's Ultramarines. I can see Calgar puching a hole through the Avatar and CSM regretting nailing dead Ultramarines to their tanks.
C'mon people lets be positive. How cool were the intros to the two DOW games? So if the film is at least as good as those then it should be worth the price of a dvd.
Wont you find it in your hearts to give Ultramarines a chance .
Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:I'm all for a movie....but......come on.....ULTRAMARINES the movie?
They could use absolutely ANYTHING but they used Ultramarines? Why no something more manlie like, Space Wolves, or, I don't know, Grots?!
I still wan't a horus heresy movie series
Ultramarines are the poster boys for the franchise, though I agree another chapter would be better.
People bitching because it's "Ultramarines" need to learn to STFU and stop whining.
They're the poster boy for the entire game and possibly the universe.
They're the closest thing 40k has to a "good guy". Yes I know they're not really completely and truly "good guys", but movies like having that kind of distinction between good and evil.
All they need to do is have it be an action fest and it could be entertaining enough to justify the purchase of the DVD.
Hmm...it will be filled with really bad acting, some random killing, Space Marines as good guys and that's about it. But then again, I guess we would be asking too much if we want depth and such for a film about plastic toy soldiers...
I am in no way surprised that it's an ultramarines flick, what else would they lead into movies with? Blood angels? Valhallan 597th? Uriel saves the day? This is a logical move for all involved and if it is a success we can probably expect lots of gakky sequels.
However, If I had run of the show...
How awesome would a Minotaurs movie be? A battle cruiser patrolling around the eye of terror is confronted by an alpha legion warship that it must stop. Fierce space battles, dozens of evil marines named Alfarious and their rumored 2nd primarch, teleporting terminator squads dealing death on both ships, leading to the two cruisers crash landing on Cadia where the final battle takes place! This setting can quickly explain: The eye of terror, space travel, terminators vs. standard space marines, Imperial guard, and all sorts of other minutia without going out of it's way to do so... And you get awesome space battles!!!
i look on this as abad thing for gw. they shouldn't do t. i say this because it will be exactly the same as when they made LOTR, loads of people go and see it in cinemas, really enjoy it, then go to GW and say " oh i saw that film!" and buy some 40k. initially this will be a good thing with loads of sales, but they are only doing it coz they saw the film and are not actually interested in the hobby all that much. then the fuss will die down, these people wil Soon get bored and then stop doing 40k, which will lead to a downturn and all in all attract less customers (people get bored say bad things) and overall gw will make a loss. also for the months where people actually come into stires the gaming community will be distilled by unenthusiastic video morons.
walker90234 wrote:i look on this as abad thing for gw. they shouldn't do t. i say this because it will be exactly the same as when they made LOTR, loads of people go and see it in cinemas, really enjoy it, then go to GW and say " oh i saw that film!" and buy some 40k. initially this will be a good thing with loads of sales, but they are only doing it coz they saw the film and are not actually interested in the hobby all that much. then the fuss will die down, these people wil Soon get bored and then stop doing 40k, which will lead to a downturn and all in all attract less customers (people get bored say bad things) and overall gw will make a loss. also for the months where people actually come into stires the gaming community will be distilled by unenthusiastic video morons.
I'm sorry but honestly....that was painful to read.
They could do the fall of the 1st company. Honestly, the Ultramarines do have flavor and good fluff. I think most people just bash on them because A) They get a lot of attention and thier Xeno army doesn't get as much, B) They get a lot of attention and thier Space Marine chapter doesn't, or C) They just like to complain about every thing they see on the internetz because it seemed like he thing to do at the time. This could be an awesome movie. Yes, it could fail in a most epic way, but it could really succed as well.
walker90234 wrote:i look on this as abad thing for gw. they shouldn't do t. i say this because it will be exactly the same as when they made LOTR, loads of people go and see it in cinemas, really enjoy it, then go to GW and say " oh i saw that film!" and buy some 40k. initially this will be a good thing with loads of sales, but they are only doing it coz they saw the film and are not actually interested in the hobby all that much. then the fuss will die down, these people wil Soon get bored and then stop doing 40k, which will lead to a downturn and all in all attract less customers (people get bored say bad things) and overall gw will make a loss. also for the months where people actually come into stires the gaming community will be distilled by unenthusiastic video morons.
I'll be happy when their armies turn up on craigslist for cheap.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This could be completely smurf and I wouldn't give a damn, finally some full motion 40k slaying.
We can only hope. That way, after hearing that particular style of British accent for 70 minutes, people will finally get it through their heads that he's actually saying "Space" and not "Spehss".
Chief has my money for the movie. I can imagine Matt Daemon yelling his name in every scene as well.
This movie will be van damme lame like streetfighter the live action movie was. The only positive is the use of CGI where this wasn't available for our poor french action hero.
I would love to hear ringo starr as the voice of the main ultramarine.
Stormtrooper X wrote:Honestly, the Ultramarines do have flavor and good fluff. I think most people just bash on them because A) They get a lot of attention and thier Xeno army doesn't get as much, B) They get a lot of attention and thier Space Marine chapter doesn't, or C) They just like to complain about every thing they see on the internetz because it seemed like he thing to do at the time. This could be an awesome movie. Yes, it could fail in a most epic way, but it could really succed as well.
Personally, I don't like the Ultramarines because until the last book they just looked aweful. Call them Ultramarines all you want, but ultramarin is simply not a good color for power-armorerd space warriors.
BeefyG wrote:I would love to hear ringo starr as the voice of the main ultramarine.
We'll call him Thomas shall we?
"It was morning on the Island of... Ultramar?"
You're my hero, btw. That brought back all sorts of great Liverpudlian-narrated memories!
DoW
Thomas the Ultramarine was sitting in the Chapel-Barracks, cleaning his bolter. "Are you going to purge any heretics today?" asked Percy the Salamander.
"Yes," said Thomas. "The Fat Chaplain is going to take us to Sodorus IV to destroy the mutant hordes!"
"That's great!" said Percy. "I'm going to fight the xenos scum with James the Blood Angel and Forgefather Henry!"
I like how in books and stuff, space marines are the epic sauce and oh your sword cant pierce my armor and your gun cant do nuffin against meh! but in DOW trailers, its like HAHA SHOT THE CHEST DEAD MARINE! I dont understand... why is book armour epix and screen armour all terrible... Is this just me being dumb or is it true?
Well, in DoW trailers, the Marines are fighting powerful enemies. In the original trailer, they get swarmed by Orks, in Dark Crusade, they get taken by surprise by the Necrons getting back up, and in DoW II they're fighting elite Eldar forces. I only counted three Marines dying in that trailer; one gets sniped by a Ranger, one gets stabbed by a Howling Banshee with a power weapon, and the last to die gets fried by the Farseer's psychic lightning.
Eh... I suppose though... Even if they were "elite" eldar... the marines are the emperors "finest" right? Im not sure... Even in some books marines crush the most intense foes
Cheese Elemental wrote:Well, in DoW trailers, the Marines are fighting powerful enemies. In the original trailer, they charged out of cover, uphill, to get into close combat with Orks, in Dark Crusade they get taken by surprise by the Necrons getting back up, and in DoW II they're fighting elite Eldar forces.
Fixed it for ya! Silly Blood Angels!
Now where's that despair poster when you need it...
DoW
EDIT: I think I would actually really enjoy a full length CG movie in the DoW II style. I'm a sucker for CG (loved Spirits Within and Advent Children) and the technology to make it look more and more real is getting better every day (Beowulf was pretty crazy realistic in parts). I vote they have the Sergeant's voice (from the DoW II trailer) as the main Ultramarine hero dood. That or The Tick, of course.
Cheese Elemental wrote:Thomas the Ultramarine was sitting in the Chapel-Barracks, cleaning his bolter. "Are you going to purge any heretics today?" asked Percy the Salamander.
"Yes," said Thomas. "The Fat Chaplain is going to take us to Sodorus IV to destroy the mutant hordes!"
"That's great!" said Percy. "I'm going to fight the xenos scum with James the Blood Angel and Forgefather Henry!"
WIN.
Someone model this, with the fat chaplin with top hat.
We can only hope. That way, after hearing that particular style of British accent for 70 minutes, people will finally get it through their heads that he's actually saying "Space" and not "Spehss".
I was listening to the accent for Boreal (because you're worth it), it's not British, it sounds like Jurgen Prochnow's accent (Duke Leto in the Lynch Dune) so perhaps german/dutch voice accent.
I love the tactical critical appraisal of the Dawn of War intro movie. Yes, it does not make sense to leave cover to charge into combat with a CQB oriented foe. Nor is it sense that it is the year 40,000. Orks are nonsensical. Superhuman gene clones of the sons of a god-emperor are nonsensical.
Having said that, the marine dude does place his flag on top of the hill, so in game terms that's FTW. Maybe that's why some people suck at DOW? Base building instead of point grabbing.
Anywho, I imagine the budget of this movie will partly determine how good it is: CGI is fairly expensive still. Straight to DVD is not convincing, but then what movie company would put 40K on the big screen?
i like the idea of it being cgibut i dont think it shuld be the smurfs.
'normal' humans would have been better,like inquisitors, assasins,titans
or even aless famous marine chapter
I think I would actually really enjoy a full length CG movie in the DoW II style. I'm a sucker for CG (loved Spirits Within and Advent Children) and the technology to make it look more and more real is getting better every day (Beowulf was pretty crazy realistic in parts). I vote they have the Sergeant's voice (from the DoW II trailer) as the main Ultramarine hero dood. That or The Tick, of course.
I agree Spirits Within and Advent Children were awesome!
Spirits within was completely seperate from any of the FF games, which was a good thing in my opinion. I loved it, it was a good quality piece of cyber punk.
I really liked Advent children too (especially the fight scenes on the motorcycles), but I prefered Spirits Within.
Great Unclean One wrote:I need to watch it, is Advent any good? Spirits was very cool indeed, what's the storyline of Advent?
Advent Children continues where the game FF7 left off, IIRC, or else it might coincide with the latter part of the game and diverts from the original story towards the end.
Either way it's the FF7 world and it rules. If you liked Spirits Within you'll like Advent Children much, much more. Gorgeous CG, memorable characters, amazing fight scenes, beautiful music and brilliant story make it too good to miss.
If you've never played the game, however, you will be a little confused. Not so much that it ruins the movie, but it would be kinda like watching The Return of the King without seeing the first two movies or reading the books. Definitely some WTF moments but in no way unwatchable.
Great Unclean One wrote:I need to watch it, is Advent any good? Spirits was very cool indeed, what's the storyline of Advent?
Advent Children continues where the game FF7 left off, IIRC, or else it might coincide with the latter part of the game and diverts from the original story towards the end.
DoW
Advent Children actually startes 2 years after the end of the game
Great Unclean One wrote:I need to watch it, is Advent any good? Spirits was very cool indeed, what's the storyline of Advent?
Advent Children continues where the game FF7 left off, IIRC, or else it might coincide with the latter part of the game and diverts from the original story towards the end.
DoW
Advent Children actually startes 2 years after the end of the game
Well there you have it. I still stand by the rest of my post though.
I've not played any FF game, but I still enjoyed Advent Children. The intro to the film tells you enough to understand (sort of) what is going on. Plus FF7 is so much in the popular culture (who wouldn't recognize a picture of Cloud now, even if his name escaped you) that you can piece together who is who.
Back on topic though, I have re-watched the trailer for the Space Marine game and the CGI (not gameplay footage) is pretty good. Maybe that will be the standard for the CGI of the film. I find myself getting more and more optimistc about the movie the more I think about it. The Ultramarines in the CGI trailer look awsome, so why not in the film? I just hope some screenshots and/or concept art leak out soon.
I imagine that this movie will consist of Marysue Calgar killing the avatar and then a bloodthirster and then he'll go choke an avatar to death and then he will go kill a c'tan or two.
lol my thoughts exactly.
Plot: Our hero, the Ultra sick Lord of the Ultra Marines (Ben Afflec) falls for a hot alien chick (Megan Fox). He is torn between his duties to server and protect his chapter and brethren of the Ultra Marines, obey the undying living-half-dead-demi-god-Emperor of mankind ...or hooking up with a really hot alien chick (I mean cmon did you see Transformers? Yeah I'd hit that 2x). Along the way he meets a rag tag bunch of tough but lovable bunch of space marines. Their duty; to protect the human race from the endless kill bad guys ...and to party dudes! Cowabunga!
But, will they be enough to stop the forces of evil.... the immortal Gods of Chaos; the Blood God Khorne (Oprah Winfrey), Lord of decay and sick stuff Nurgle (Rosie O'donell), the Dark lord of pleasure Slaanesh (Madonna) and the god of change Tzeentch (Tom Cruise). Other gods include Star god C'tan (Chris Kattan), the God of war Khaine (Nicolas Cage) and the Laughing God (Jim Carrey).
CAST (as decided by Hollywood)
Marneus "blue" Calgar - Ben Afflec
Knight Captain Kato SICKarius - Matt Daemon
Uriel Ventris and Sgt. Pasanius - Jay and Silent Bob
Master of the Forge - Jessie James from Monster's Garage
Sgt Telion - Terry Bradshaw
Primarch Robateallleax Guilliman - Steven Colbert
The Emperor of Mankind - Ron Jeremy
Horus the Primarch - John Lithgow
Ciaphas Cain - Seth Rogen (uh huh huh huh huh huuh)
OTHER SPACE MARINES:
Salamanders - Chris Rock, Ice-Cube, Kanye West (first guy in movie to die)
Crimson Fist Lord Pedro Kantor - John Leguizamo
OMFG best movie Evar!
Spoiler:
There will be a sequel
I sort of feel sick now... only because if... Hollywood made a 40k movie... it would be almost identical to this description. With the exception of John Lithgow, I can't help but think this would be terrible.
Great Unclean One wrote:...what's the storyline of Advent?
It's incomprehensible.
To say the least...I liked FF7, but honestly I hated Advent Children.
It looked good, sure, but made no fething sense whatsoever, and I have a sneaking suspicion the entire thing was nothing more than a lame excuse to do a big CGI battle between Cloud and Sephiroth, and make money off of it somehow. All they really have to do is re-release FF7 with pretty graphics, that's really all any die-hard fanboy wants. All these sequels and prequels and other attempts to milk the franchise are doing more harm than good in my opinion.
Sidstyler wrote:
All they really have to do is re-release FF7 with pretty graphics, that's really all any die-hard fanboy wants. All these sequels and prequels and other attempts to milk the franchise are doing more harm than good in my opinion.
They originally were supposed to re-release it for PS3 (which I would have bought just to play it ) without changing any story line at all, just upping the graphics... Then retracted it and said it was just a preview to advertise the ps3... LAME!
Sidstyler wrote:All they really have to do is re-release FF7 with pretty graphics, that's really all any die-hard fanboy wants. All these sequels and prequels and other attempts to milk the franchise are doing more harm than good in my opinion.
I agree with you about re-releasing FF7, I honestly don't understand why they don't.
(Then again, I don't get why GW doesn't hire 1 guy to browse through a site like Dakka for a few days and then write up a full rules clarification document...)
As far as sequels/prequels go, I did enjoy Crisis Core. But that may have been because I was playing it in the desert and there wasn't much else to do. Who knows?
Sidstyler wrote:To say the least...I liked FF7, but honestly I hated Advent Children.
I've never played through FF7, and although I know the basic plot I watched the 're-cap' thing that was on the Advent Children DVD. Even with that the damned movie made no sense.
I would play a re-done FF7 with pretty 3D graphics though.
The pitfall they also do no want to fall in is the whole 'Aliens style movie' thing..
It would be nice for them to showcase a little of every major army in the 40k universe
I can see it now....The Ultramrines are getting there behinds handed to them by the Tyranid force, the marines outnumbered one hundred to one and loosing fast, then in a distant engine noise can be seen on the horizon getting closer a formation of bikes can be seen with what looks like small dwarf like creatures atop of them, HOORAH the Squats have come to save the Ultramrines! the Ultramrines go back home in pure shame..
Symbio Joe wrote:No matter how this movie will be someone will have to send Anung Un Rama and me the uncut version.
Well, considering how that thing usually goes, it'll probably take months to reach us as a proper DVD release anyway. And it will of course be cut, I have no doubt about that.
Sidstyler wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Great Unclean One wrote:...what's the storyline of Advent?
It's incomprehensible.
I recently re-watched Advent Children again. The fight scenes are still awesome, but even if you know the plot of FF7, the movie doesn't make a lot of sense. It still looks brilliant though.
It looked good, sure, but made no fething sense whatsoever, and I have a sneaking suspicion the entire thing was nothing more than a lame excuse to do a big CGI battle between Cloud and Sephiroth, and make money off of it somehow.
You say that, like it's a bad thing.
Well, anyway, SquareEnix made remakes of FF3 and 4 for DS and a remake of FF6 for GBA, so FF7 just has to be next.
IF ITS FETHING SM VS ORKS THEN IM GONNA THROW MA SHOES AT THE STUDIO THEIR MAKING THIS AT, chaos vs sm id like WITH SOME GOD DAM FLUFFY FLUFF MC FLUFF STORY TOIT NOT SOME GAK SPEESH MAREEHNS FIGHT FOR THE EPRAH AND WILL DIE TRYING, OHNOES WE MIGHT NOT WIN BUT HEYYY WERE SPEESH MAREEHNS EEEY BEERS ALLROUND FOR THE EMPRAAA , ok got all that out of my system, well i really hope it has some researched top notch ben counter style story to it or along hte lines of some kick ass black library author not some gak script writer who has alot of money
seriously this can go rather REALLY BAD or pretty good. might i add for it to be good it must have some OOOOh aahhh and cliche quotes like "the emperor protects" and some epic charge "for the emperor"
physcosamatic wrote:IF ITS FETHING SM VS ORKS THEN IM GONNA THROW MA SHOES AT THE STUDIO THEIR MAKING THIS AT, chaos vs sm id like WITH SOME GOD DAM FLUFFY FLUFF MC FLUFF STORY TOIT NOT SOME GAK SPEESH MAREEHNS FIGHT FOR THE EPRAH AND WILL DIE TRYING, OHNOES WE MIGHT NOT WIN BUT HEYYY WERE SPEESH MAREEHNS EEEY BEERS ALLROUND FOR THE EMPRAAA , ok got all that out of my system, well i really hope it has some researched top notch ben counter style story to it or along hte lines of some kick ass black library author not some gak script writer who has alot of money
If the hype doesnt absolutly crush them, this could end up being quite enjoyable. I just hope they dont make it gore-free, that would be a big letdown to any black-library readers.
Great Unclean One wrote:...what's the storyline of Advent?
It's incomprehensible.
I recently re-watched Advent Children again. The fight scenes are still awesome, but even if you know the plot of FF7, the movie doesn't make a lot of sense. It still looks brilliant though.
It looked good, sure, but made no fething sense whatsoever, and I have a sneaking suspicion the entire thing was nothing more than a lame excuse to do a big CGI battle between Cloud and Sephiroth, and make money off of it somehow.
You say that, like it's a bad thing.
Well, anyway, SquareEnix made remakes of FF3 and 4 for DS and a remake of FF6 for GBA, so FF7 just has to be next.
I found the story line rather easy to follow (Ive seen it many times though) but I also played the game... I liked the story line too!
And sadly unless they are changing theyre minds AGAIN! then ff7 is just staying without a remake and that video I posted a while back was just a promo for playstation3 (originally the video didnt say promo and stuff on it so they got everyone excited! WHY?!?!?!)
Bascilica wrote:If the hype doesnt absolutly crush them, this could end up being quite enjoyable. I just hope they dont make it gore-free, that would be a big letdown to any black-library readers.
It will most likely be gore free..GW will have to cater to the young uns..
I just hope they get something even half-decent actually out (remember that blood angels movie that never finished). I'm not getting my hopes up as it's just a straight-to-dvd title, but it could be a fun watch. *shrug*
I'm expecting a violence level at least on par with 300, anything less and i'd be disappointed. Visually if it equals or betters the DOW2 trailer i'd be happy. Story wise, it has to be smurf nids (i hope) because everyone else requires a degree of explaining wheras nids are just hungry beasties, I wouldnt say no to the battle for macragge, with the whole 1st company dying etc, it'd be cool and still allow gw to blow smoke up ultrasmurfs asses
Yeah fingers crossed its a good job and gains some momentum, the 40k universe/lore/fluff has such incredible possibilities.
Quite surprised GW havent looked at doing something like this before on a decent scale, I think it could be a real runner if done well and marketed properly.
Ratius wrote:Yeah fingers crossed its a good job and gains some momentum, the 40k universe/lore/fluff has such incredible possibilities.
Quite surprised GW havent looked at doing something like this before on a decent scale, I think it could be a real runner if done well and marketed properly.
GW has been approached in the past by big film names regarding turning 40K and Fantasy into movies. Peter Jackson came to GW after LOTR to discuss the possibility of making Warhammer Fantasy into a film, backed by New Line cinema. However GW are notoriously strict in controlling their IP. I heard the reason they declined Peter Jackson's proposal was because New Line cinema wanted the rights to the merchandise from the film (ie: action figures, books, soundtrack, assorted nick-nacks etc...), but GW basicaly said that Warhammer (and all it's characters/imagery) is their IP and they would retian sole rights (and therefore profits) from any movie merchandise. Unsurprisingly New Line then pulled out, since as much as the cost of cinema tickets would get some money to New Line, a lot of the money made off the back of a film is from the merchandise. It's a shame because as long as GW maintain this attitude (as understandable as it is that they want to protect their IP) it will mean in all likelyhood we'll never see a 'proper' live action movie of either game system. With this CGI film they'll just be paying the makers a flat fee and they'll also take a % of the DVD sales, but as it's a straight to DVD film I doubt there'll be any merchandise to fight over. Plus the makers of the CGI are a small company so probably couldn't fight for the rights to merchandise.
Still, it's good to see any kind of professional GW movie. No longer will we have to sit through the intros to the computer games and wish for a film.
I want blood. Gruesome horrible blood. This is the dark dank future. But I know that it will be PG-13. So it will be a "little" bloody but not the disemboweling awesomeocity that 40K demands.
RxGhost wrote:If the movie is anything on par with the Space Marine game coming out, we should be in for a treat. Have you seen the cinema sequences for that?
In terms of what, background or animation?
Because the animation would be cool. If it's the same "Space Marines kill 10,000 year old Chaos veterans as if they are fighting teddy bears" then I will not watch it.
I would love a well written and scripted movie. I would love an epic confrontation of galactic proportion. But what I want, what I really need is WAR. Massed bolter fire. Orks or nids ripping marines in two. Orbital strikes. Space combat. Drop pod assualts of entire companies. Chainswords going through people. Feth story, I'd watch days of that and never tire. Then there's the potential for duels and last stands and intrigue and it just gets better. I need to write for these guys one day. Thats the dream...ahem
i have to diagree. it needs good story to explain to anyone who dosnt fully understand the 4ok universe(if anyone does at all, that is)
action is good but you need a healthy balance of fluff and guts
cadian512 wrote:i have to diagree. it needs good story to explain to anyone who dosnt fully understand the 4ok universe(if anyone does at all, that is)
action is good but you need a healthy balance of fluff and guts
Not really, especially if your core audience is already fans.
FF7: Advent Children was pretty good in this regard.
Of all things...... Why the ultramarines? F**** sake. Not a great deal of plot flexibilty there. Xenos, bang. Heretic, bang. For the emperor, bang. mutant, bang.
Could get samey, should havve done it about something like rogue traders or inquisitor. much more intresting and less corny. KEEP THE DE OUT.
i dont think a 70 minute film would do the WH40k universe justice, it should be like lord of the rings where every movie is like 12 hours long, or something...
and every race should have an adequate amount of screen time where they are introduced, they fight, and either die or claim victory. I would hate it if the space marines won every battle in the movie, even though i am an avid space marine player, i mean wouldnt it be refreshing if the good guys got kicked around at the climax of the movie? and it should be ultra violent like what saving private ryan did for ww2 movies, i mean hundreds of millions of troops go to war they dont leave with just a black eye....
I've just seen the butchering trailer of another book I like, the Darren Shan film trailer looks AWFUL! They look like they have butchered it and now my hopes for the 40k film have just gone down like a lead balloon, why make the film crap WHY?!?!?
I shivered in fear when I got to know they were going to put Darren Shan onto the movie screen. I thought for myself: WHY do you hate me SO much, God?
And if I'm correct, this "70min. Smurf movie" will be CGI-Final Fantasy; The Spirit Within good with such a bad plot it will make the remains of the Emperor turn to dust and get blown away by his own fart.
This screams disappointment to me...
Yeah I'd hit that 2x). Along the way he meets a rag tag bunch of tough but lovable bunch of space marines. Their duty; to 
(Oprah Winfrey), Lord of decay and sick stuff Nurgle 
(Rosie O'donell), the Dark lord of pleasure Slaanesh 
(Madonna) and the god of change Tzeentch 
(Tom Cruise). Other gods include Star god C'tan (Chris Kattan), the God of war Khaine (Nicolas Cage) and the Laughing God (Jim Carrey).
but in no way unwatchable.
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