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Post by: Thor665
Greetings and welcome to all concerned. First off, if you are not a player in this game please Do not post in this thread! If you are interested in becomeing part of this game of Genestealer check out the Registration Thread
and/or keep your eyes open, as if this first game is successful I'll undoubtedly host more.
Okay FOR THE PLAYERS! Your roles have been sent to you via PM. All roles were decided by me via a few dice rolls and were completely random. I will verify that there is at least one pro-town role (like an Inquisitor or Doctor) and that there are two Genestealers in your midst.
Rules
Votes
1) Votes must be in bold, if you do not bold your vote it will not be counted. This is a good vote - Vote: Gwar! this is a not good vote - Vote:Gwar!.
2) Please unvote if necessary before casting a new vote, it makes counting them much easier. (you are allowed to unvote as many times as you wish during a day cycle, so feel free to keep shifting your vote around as your suspicions shift)
3) Lynching will require a simple majority of votes. Once a player has reached the necessary majority, their pleas are useless and any attempts to unvote will be unheeded. Thus, as soon as any player has a majority vote that player will be lynched and all subsequent voting does not count. Feel free to post other thoughts while waiting for the lynch scene if you desire. With 7 alive 4 votes are required to lynch. With 3 alive, 2 votes would be required. Ect. ect.
4) You may vote: no lynch. If No Lynch is the majority votes at any time then the day will end with no lynch and move on to the night phase.
5) Vote counts will be tabulated and posted by me at semi-regular intervals or when requested.
Deadlines
1) Since this is the first game of Genestealer for at least the bulk of the players I will be enforcing a fixed three week day deadline. All nights have a 72 hour deadline. Deadlines will be counted from the Moderator (my) story posts that will initiate each day and night phase.
2) At the three week deadline lynching will require the same number of votes as usual, if this number is not reached the day will end 'no lynch'.
3) If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. I will not wait for you. If you do not submit a choice to me then nothing will happen... at all... not even a little bit.
Posting
1) The game is not to be discussed outside the thread unless your role specifically states that you may do so – and then only at night. Honor system is in effect.
2) Once your death scene has been posted, you’re dead. Stop typing. A single “Bah, you fools!” type post is allowable, but no more please.
3) No small or invisible text. Don’t edit/delete previously submitted posts either. Going back and editing a post may be grounds for disqualification from the game based on my whim.
4) Don’t quote any PMs from me. If you do, I will be most unhappy.
5) If you anticipate being unavailable for more than 3 days, please post a notice to that effect in the thread. Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate – don’t leave us hanging.
6) Game Mods are human (allegedly), if I make a mistake please PM me I will rectify the mistake as soon as I can.
7) Please bold anything you want me to see.. Also, please try to avoid bolding anything else to ensure I DO see the ones I need to.
Prods aka 'That guy hasn't posted in a while'
1)A player will get prodded if they have been inactive for three days.
2)Weekends count as one day. (ie If your last post is on a Thursday you will not be prodded till the Monday following)
3) If you do not pick up your prod/post in game within 72 hours of it being sent I will start to look for a replacement.
4) Please post in game if you are going to be unavailable for more than 48 hours.
Misc
Remember, it’s a game and it’s supposed to be fun. Be nice to your fellow players.
If you have a problem in game please PM me to discuss it.
The rules etc can and will be edited at any point if I deem it necessary.
Breaking the rules can be bad for your health, I reserve the right to modkill for serious/repeated naughtiness.
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First Story Post - start of Day 1 - start of three week timer
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Planetary Governor Soonto B. Deadicus had been lax in his defenses and the Genestealer cult had been allowed to grow unchecked within the lower levels of the Hive. When the PDF forces had turned traitor almost simultaneously all order had broken down and it was every man for himself. In a matter of hours the Hive appears to have fallen and the death toll must be in the millions. The seven of you and the planetary governor managed to make it to one of his security bunkers and seal the door.
"Well, lads," sighed the portly Soonto, "looks like we might be in for a bit of a long haul. Not to worry though, these walls are secure and I have plenty of food, and more importantly copious amounts of alcohol, to see us through the wait. I sent a message out to request aid from any nearby Imperial units and all we have to do now is kick back, relax, and await rescue." He laughed heartily as he scooped up a bottle of potent alcohol and retired to his room. The rest of you ate what food you could manage after such a horrific day and settled in for an uneasy slumber.
In the morning it came as quite a shock to find that Soonto B. Deadicus was now dead - torn apart in his room which was now a bloody mess. The remaining seven of you investigate his body, and even the most simplistic amongst you is able to recognize that the governor had been assaulted and killed by two people working in concert. Clearly there are two Genestealer sympathizers amongst you!
You each back off from the others, placing your backs to the walls as you eye each other. Rescue is coming soon, but your odds of surviving in this bunker with two of the others out to kill you seems a slim hope at best. No, your only chance is to figure out who the accursed mutants are and deal with them in an official Imperium sanctioned manner; purging with fire.
It is Day 1, and with 7 people there are a required 4 votes to lynch a suspect.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
"In the bleak and savage future our enemy walks among us. And they're not open to negotiation."
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Post by: Lord-Loss
'And So It Begins'
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
Not Soonto! He owed me thirty credits!
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Post by: Manchu
Well, I guess that means Soonto wasn't a genestealer. Just a moron. Still, why do you think he was killed before any of us?
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Manchu wrote:Well, I guess that means Soonto wasn't a genestealer. Just a moron. Still, why do you think he was killed before any of us?
Probaly cause he was a moron, no-one likes a moron.
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Post by: Gwar!
I never liked Soonto anyway. Still, we do seem to have a small problem...
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Gwar! wrote:I never liked Soonto anyway. Still, we do seem to have a small problem...
Yes, just a small problem. The lack of marmite is far more serious then the two killers.
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Post by: Demogerg
I think "small" is underestimating it.
Faith in the Emperor will see us through.
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Post by: Manchu
Well, there's nothing for it. I'm having a glass of his amasec.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Gwar! wrote:I never liked Soonto
Oh really...
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Post by: Gwar!
Orkeosaurus wrote:Gwar! wrote:I never liked Soonto
Oh really...
Don't give me that, I don't think anyone actually liked him!
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Post by: Demogerg
I did, he was terrible at poker.
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Post by: Manchu
He was a traitor to the Imperium to have let our world fall into such depravity. I'm surprised he didn't try to kill all of us, as well.
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Post by: Demogerg
Manchu wrote:He was a traitor to the Imperium to have let our world fall into such depravity. I'm surprised he didn't try to kill all of us, as well.
Harsh words for the fallen, he brought you in here with us to be saved from the scourging outside these walls.
You might want to bite your tongue, lest someone think you are one of the murderous genestealer sympathizers.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Demogerg wrote:I did, he was terrible at poker.
It must have almost been like you could read his mind...
WITCH!
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Post by: Manchu
Demogerg wrote:Harsh words for the fallen, he brought you in here with us to be saved from the scourging outside these walls.
But we're clearly not safe, and that's apparently his fault as well. The trouble is, none of us will mourn the dog. Any loyal, Emperor-fearing citizen would see him shot for his failures before the Throne. And the xenos-tainted scum wanted him ripped apart just because--proof of alien stupidity since Soonto was clearly their greatest ally.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Manchu wrote:And the xenos-tainted scum wanted him ripped apart just because--proof of alien stupidity since Soonto was clearly their greatest ally.
Hmm. So it was important to you that the governor died. And you want everyone here to think that the monsters that walk among us are stupid and non-threatening.
I hope for your sake this merely a set of unfavorable coincidences.
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Post by: Manchu
Orkeosaurus wrote:And you want everyone here to think that the monsters that walk among us are stupid and non-threatening.
Are you saying that the xenos threat is anything but a slavering tide of mindless, filthy violence? Do you honestly believe that those things can think and plan like divine humanity? I detect a shade of sympathy for the alien in your attempt to cast doubt on my fidelity to the Emperor and I pray it is merely passing naivete instead of something more . . . sinister. As to the traitor Soonto, we all know what his fate would have been if His Divine Majesty's wrath had caught up to him before one of you did. And whoever among you it is, we will find out. You stupid, gene-twisted scum will slip up sooner or later.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Manchu wrote:Are you saying that the xenos threat is anything but a slavering tide of mindless, filthy violence? Do you honestly believe that those things can think and plan like divine humanity? I detect a shade of sympathy for the alien in your attempt to cast doubt on my fidelity to the Emperor and I pray it is merely passing naivete instead of something more . . . sinister.
The insidious nature of the alien goes beyond thinking in the traditional sense; take the Eldar, for example. They're too stupid to see our manifest destiny, but the pulsating lumps of neurons in their skulls allow them to build spindly ships that attack our navy before fleeing back to their decaying masters.
I've fought Orks on Palgine VI, and they don't need to be able to speak even basic Gothic correctly to plague our species.
Do you think our priests and lords are fools? Do you think they have conjured up a threat encroaching on humanity in a fit of hysteria?
These are dangerous enemies. They walk among us. They plot against us. They seek undermine our our cities, our temples, our forgeworlds; our way of life and our destined dominion over the stars. Don't think for a second that we can let our guard down. Assuming you don't know everything that I've said and more about the Genestealer, and simply wish for others to be misled.
As to the traitor Soonto, we all know what his fate would have been if His Divine Majesty's wrath had caught up to him before one of you did. And whoever among you it is, we will find out. You stupid, gene-twisted scum will slip up sooner or later.
The price of survival is eternal vigilance.
The price of salvation is eternal sacrifice.
We won't stop these disgusting creatures without both. I know of the alien and I know the threat they pose. I know of humanity, and I know that in the darkest hour we still may triumph. I have met my enemy. It's an abomination.
Ave Imperator.
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Post by: Gwar!
-Watches quietly at the heated exchange with his back to the wall, keeping a close eye on everyone else in the room-
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Post by: Manchu
Orkeosaurus wrote:Assuming you don't know everything that I've said and more about the Genestealer, and simply wish for others to be misled.
You do seem to know an awful lot . . . All I know is that the xenos may take my life or even this system but that the Emperor's glorious armies will burn them all off of the face of every world they besmirch with their vile presence. One way or another, the traitors in this room will die. I'd just prefer it was at my hands.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Well, as I said, I stared down the Green Tide and lived on Palgine. I killed 2 Grots and I think I might have hit an Ork but I couldn't tell because I was closing my eyes and screaming.
And trust me, even among on a planet with Orks there were wretched traitors, hoping to appease the monsters. I once found a whole town of people, with green paint smeared on their faces. They were singing and dancing, hoping that their worship of the greenskins would save them. It was disgusting. Men, women, children; everyone was part of the debauchery. They had a huge feast of food and wine set out, so that when the Orkish masters came they could give them their food, and drink, and shelter, and women (I think; I can't remember if Orks have ding dongs).
We left no one. It wasn't too hard, they were weak and slovenly, having resigned themselves to prostitution before the Orks or death at their hands. We set up some heavy stubbers along the roads out of the town and had patrols around the wooded edges of the city. The special weapon squad did great - flamers - they torched most of the town themselves. Wood houses and party tents, all deathtraps. I just had a lasgun, but I still killed about a dozen of them myself. Of course, they begged for mercy and pretended to be faithful to the Emperor when they saw us. I didn't fall for it. I bayoneted a 14 year old girl, and I have never regretted doing my duty.
There were rumors later on of their being some sort of fertility festival on the planet at that time of year. That's groxshit as far as I'm concerned. They were covered in green paint, come on.
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Post by: Manchu
Well, as a soldier, how long do you think we have before the guard rescues us and cleanses this world?
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Meh your all Heretics to me.
/sips from whiskey glass
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Post by: Manchu
If we're all heretics to you and at least most of us are loyal citizens, that makes you the real heretic!
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Manchu wrote:If we're all heretics to you and at least most of us are loyal citizens, that makes you the real heretic!
How Dare You Question MY Loyalty To The God Emporer!
I Was Implying That You Will Never Be As Loyal to the God Emporer As Me!
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Manchu wrote:Well, as a soldier, how long do you think we have before the guard rescues us and cleanses this world?
Cleanses this world? Probably not too long. A couple of years, maybe. We were always really good at the cleansing part.
For the rescue part, are we counting the abolition of our immortal sins through death in service to the Emperor as a rescue?
Lord_Loss wrote:MY Loyalty To The God Emporer!
"God Emporer"? And just what is a "God Emporer"? Some sort of Genestealer king who spells his title similar to that of the God Emperor of Mankind?
 I am most suspicious, now.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Im a simple citizen of The Imperium of Mankind.
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
Lord-Loss wrote:Im a simple citizen of The Imperium of Mankind.
Or are you? You're very willing to accuse us of heresy!
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Valhallan42nd wrote:Lord-Loss wrote:Im a simple citizen of The Imperium of Mankind. Or are you? You're very willing to accuse us of heresy! Just cause two people killed Soonto, it doesnt mean there aint any more! Watch your backs friends as we do not know how many foul traitors are with us.
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
How did you know it was two people? You must be one of them!
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Post by: Manchu
Orkeosaurus wrote:For the rescue part, are we counting the abolition of our immortal sins through death in service to the Emperor as a rescue?
Yes, I meant when our remains would be found, bony fingers still grappling with the alien scum, and be properly interred by a priest of His Divine Majesty.
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Post by: Manchu
Valhallan42nd wrote:How did you know it was two people? You must be one of them! Thor665 wrote:The remaining seven of you investigate his body, and even the most simplistic amongst you is able to recognize that the governor had been assaulted and killed by two people working in concert. Clearly there are two Genestealer sympathizers amongst you!
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Valhallan42nd wrote:How did you know it was two people? You must be one of them! 'Simplistic amongst us able to recognize that the governor had been assaulted and killed by two people working in concert.'
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
My mind is closed like a fortress with it's gates barred and locked, so I'm not too bright, but shouldn't there be a 7th person/monster here?
Who's ducking us?
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Post by: Manchu
jwelvis629, I believe
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Post by: Thor665
Page Two Vote Accounting
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0 - Voting
0 - Vote No Lynch
7 - Not Voting (manchu, Gwar!, Orkeosaurus, Lord-Loss, jwelvis629, Vahalla42nd, Demogerg)
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Just a friendly bit of accounting from me for you guys. I'll try to post one of these up every even numbered page or so just to help keep track of who is voting for whom. Since people can keep changing their votes as much as they like a semi-regular vote tally can help people keep track of who is closest to the hangman's noose (or I suppose in this case a quick dousing in promethium).
At the moment there has been a fair bit of chatter but apparently not enough for anyone to feel it's worthwhile to cast even a random vote yet, so at the moment it currently stands at no votes cast. It is still 4 votes for a Lynch. (you guys also all win my nomination for best role-playing in a game of Mafia I've ever seen)
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
Lord-Loss wrote:Valhallan42nd wrote:How did you know it was two people? You must be one of them!
'Simplistic amongst us able to recognize that the governor had been assaulted and killed by two people working in concert.'
Maybe I'm assuming you're all simpler than me.
Or maybe I missed that part.
Either way, we need to figure this out. Someone did this. We're sealed in here. It has to be one of us at least... Who receives the Emperor's Grace?
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Post by: Manchu
:points to (vote: Orkeosaurus):
I'm having trouble believing his story, maybe because it's so colorful.
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
At least Orkeosaurus has a story!
That one, Gwar!, isn't saying anything! And what kind of person has an click at the end of their name anyway? I'll tell you who: an xenos traitor! (vote:gwar!)
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Post by: Demogerg
Valhallan has been quick to point fingers to heresy.
vote:Valhallan42nd
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Post by: Manchu
((Wow, we really only need the merest nudge, eh?))
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
:  oints to Soonto's mangled dismembered partially chewed corpse::
I point fingers because evidence of heresy is obvious, and quite frankly, has begun to stink. I think we have a very visible reminder of being too trusting.
To not act now is foolish at best. We must act to protect ourselves.
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
Manchu wrote:((Wow, we really only need the merest nudge, eh?))
( OOC: And thus we fall on each other like rabid hyenas...)
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Manchu wrote:I'm having trouble believing his story, maybe because it's so colorful.
What?! I recieved two and a half medals for my bravery!
Vote: Manchu!
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Post by: Manchu
You and your medals! Which ones then? The Cross of Perfidious Infiltration? Or perhaps the Bronze Star of Perverse Xenos Fraternization? Give me one good reason to believe your tall tales, "trooper."
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
I received the Clean Barracks Merit Badge and the Funniest Injury of the Month Award. I almost got the Killed an Ork badge but they couldn't confirm the kill and I had to give it back. I got to keep the ribbon though. Perhaps you're jealous of my illustrious service to The Immortal God-Emperor of Mankind? Or perhaps you fear a veteran of the Emperor's Hammer standing guard over your prey? Don't tempt me, Manchu. Even with your mutant, alien, strength I will come at you like a spider monkey all jacked up on energy drinks.
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Post by: Manchu
Spider monkey, you say? Well, allow me to respond with my own expertise in serving his Divine Majesty's Administratum as Assistant Menial Under-Secretary to the Adjutant Scrivener Secundus, 32nd degree, Emperor protect and keep him, Adeptus Terra Bureau-Serf Control Numeral Omega Two Two Five Seven Two Eight. I have heard of this "spider monkey" xenos form you've just mentioned while rambling on incoherently about illusory battle honors. A Senior Logis from the Martian priesthood informed my own master about the fall of the thirteenth moon of Grephrion VII (you are not familar with it? hmm, it is in the Segementum Obscurus, but perhaps you did not see service there--or anywhere else perhaps?; it was a jungle moon as it happened) at the hands of what appeared to be saboteurs and turned out--so the most excellent Logis reported--to be a foul and foetid alien that had, it was later found by the surviving lexmechanics, adapted itself to those particular jungles. The xenos incursion, which incidentally tied up the logistical efficiency of an entire subsector for rotations on end--how we ever worked out the realignment of the soylens viridiens market, Throne only knows--but as I was saying, the xenos incursion was said to have begun with circumstances very similar to those of the past few rotations here on the late, dispicable Governor Soonto's world--Emperor damn him twice for dying a traitor and for dying without first authorizing the tanna leaf shipments! And moreover, my alleged Guardsman friend, if you are indeed a servant of His Divine Majesty, the xenos that slaughtered the Priests of Mars on the thirteenth moon of Grephrion VII were described by skitarii stationed there as "spider monkeys." I submit, therefore, that you would not attack my most devoted person merely "like" said spider monkey--which is to say, xenos scum--but rather you would do so just as you did to that incorrigible fool Soonto: not like a spider monkey, false friend who dares declare himself a slave like myself to the God-Emperor, no. But as one! for you are indeed one! Admit it!
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Post by: Gwar!
Valhallan42nd wrote:That one, Gwar!, isn't saying anything! And what kind of person has an click at the end of their name anyway? I'll tell you who: an xenos traitor! (vote:gwar!)
I am not saying anything because I have nothing to say! I am just a loyal Imperial Citizen unlucky enough to be dragged into this!
Vote:Valhallan42nd
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I too feel that Valhallan42nd is suspicious!
Vote:Valhallan42nd
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Tell me now Orkeosaurus, why do you wear that large coat?
We have no air conditioning and it is 200 Degrees outside!
Do you have some kind of mutation that makes you immune to heat, or are you hiding something! Some kind of Mutation! Maybe some kind of fearsome claw that you used to kill Soonta!
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
I can tell you, without a doubt, that I am human. Give me the Emperor's grace, and you will have made a foolish move. Vote against me if you want, but if you do, two xenos murderers will be in your midst.
I still say it's Gwar!
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Post by: Demogerg
Valhallan42nd wrote:I can tell you, without a doubt, that I am human. Give me the Emperor's grace, and you will have made a foolish move. Vote against me if you want, but if you do, two xenos murderers will be in your midst.
Foolish indeed to give the grace of the Emperor to a Xenos scum. Your end shall be ever less glorious.
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
I have three votes against me. Another will follow the herd and vote against me. I am consigned to my fate. But if I die, I will die knowing that I am to be joined with the Emperor in eternity. Unlike you all, who will be consumed by genestealers.
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
:  ouble post:: (Sorry!)
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Manchu wrote:Spider monkey, you say? Well, allow me to respond with my own expertise in serving his Divine Majesty's Administratum as Assistant Menial Under-Secretary to the Adjutant Scrivener Secundus, 32nd degree, Emperor protect and keep him, Adeptus Terra Bureau-Serf Control Numeral Omega Two Two Five Seven Two Eight. I have heard of this "spider monkey" xenos form you've just mentioned while rambling on incoherently about illusory battle honors. A Senior Logis from the Martian priesthood informed my own master about the fall of the thirteenth moon of Grephrion VII (you are not familar with it? hmm, it is in the Segementum Obscurus, but perhaps you did not see service there--or anywhere else perhaps?; it was a jungle moon as it happened) at the hands of what appeared to be saboteurs and turned out--so the most excellent Logis reported--to be a foul and foetid alien that had, it was later found by the surviving lexmechanics, adapted itself to those particular jungles. The xenos incursion, which incidentally tied up the logistical efficiency of an entire subsector for rotations on end--how we ever worked out the realignment of the soylens viridiens market, Throne only knows--but as I was saying, the xenos incursion was said to have begun with circumstances very similar to those of the past few rotations here on the late, dispicable Governor Soonto's world--Emperor damn him twice for dying a traitor and for dying without first authorizing the tanna leaf shipments! And moreover, my alleged Guardsman friend, if you are indeed a servant of His Divine Majesty, the xenos that slaughtered the Priests of Mars on the thirteenth moon of Grephrion VII were described by skitarii stationed there as "spider monkeys." I submit, therefore, that you would not attack my most devoted person merely "like" said spider monkey--which is to say, xenos scum--but rather you would do so just as you did to that incorrigible fool Soonto: not like a spider monkey, false friend who dares declare himself a slave like myself to the God-Emperor, no. But as one! for you are indeed one! Admit it!
A spider monkey is not an alien species; it's an Adeptus Mechanicus creation that combines the absolute strength of a spider with the proportionate strength of a monkey, thus creating a new, wonderful species which is as every bit as pure and natural as the winged babies and floating hollowed-out skulls that they have created. They make excellent pets, for people who are wearing fully enclosed powered armor. It's hardly my fault that they got loose. And at any rate, you plainly see that my face lacks five pairs of mandibles, and I do not have a tail that shoots acidic web that eventually vaporizes into a poisonous gas.
Also, you call the battle honors bestowed upon me by a sergeant of The Immortal God-Emperor's Most Holy Legion of Human Guardians of the Imperium of Man "illusory"? Perhaps you would call Solar Macharius and alien? Perhaps you would call the legendary tactical genius Usakar Creed a traitor?
Lord-Loss wrote:Tell me now Orkeosaurus, why do you wear that large coat?
We have no air conditioning and it is 200 Degrees outside!
I wear this coat because it's hot. It's good to be so hot that you're uncomfortable and sweat all over the place. Have you ever served with the Adeptus Sororitas, sir? I have. Well, none of them talked to me, or really even looked at me, but according to someone who says he talked to someone who knows a lot about them, they say that the cure for impurity is the fire of the emperor.
Who are you to deter the judgement of his eye? When his hands casts heat down upon you to broil the aliens who threaten us, I do not cower and take off my large coat! I stand up straight and say "BRR! IT'S CHILLY OUT! PLEASE SEND ME SOME MORE OF THE FIRE OF YOUR DIVINE JUDGEMENT, GOD-EMPEROR OF MAN!"
Ye of little faith.
I will take off this coat if you wish; as you can see, my limbs are as pink and humany as those of anyone else. I don't have "claws", and if I did they would useless to me, because I already wield the shield of my faith, and the sword of my contempt.
Ave Imperator.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Valhallan42nd wrote:I will die knowing that I am to be joined with the Emperor in eternity. Unlike you all, who will be consumed by genestealers.
Are you saying the Emperor is dead!
How dare you even speak his name!
What is this 'Genestealer' you speak of?
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Post by: Manchu
Orkeosaurus wrote:
A spider monkey is not an alien species; it's an Adeptus Mechanicus creation that combines the absolute strength of a spider with the proportionate strength of a monkey, thus creating a new, wonderful species which is as every bit as pure and natural as the winged babies and floating hollowed-out skulls that they have created. They make excellent pets, for people who are wearing fully enclosed powered armor. It's hardly my fault that they got loose. And at any rate, you plainly see that my face lacks five pairs of mandibles, and I do not have a tail that shoots acidic web that eventually vaporizes into a poisonous gas.
Again, you know far too much to be a healthy guardsman. How have you come across such techsorcery? Have you the confidence of the tech-priests? No, no. I think this is a simple case of you making things up (like your supposed medals) although, perhaps this is also an example of the notorious stupidity of xenos that we loyal citizens hear about over the vox casters. How are any of us to take seriously your casual bandying about of great names like the vaunted Creed? Your mutated brain is obviously swollen with delusions of grandeur--although I am more inclined to think that this is simply the best that a sub-human, xenos-groping, freak can manage when he knows himself surrounded by the Emperor's loyal, genetically and theologically superior subjects.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Manchu wrote:Again, you know far too much to be a healthy guardsman. How have you come across such techsorcery? Have you the confidence of the tech-priests? No, no. I think this is a simple case of you making things up (like your supposed medals) although, perhaps this is also an example of the notorious stupidity of xenos that we loyal citizens hear about over the vox casters.
We asked High Bishop Gelzeus Naracraftia about his after it ate Aglerson and tore off Smith's right leg.
It's not my fault you don't know enough about The Alien to distinguish it from a beautiful creature that had been fully sanctioned by the Holy Ecclesiarchy of the Immortal Emperor of Mankind and created by the most holy Adeptus Mechanicus. How can you hate something if you don't know any of the parts of it you're supposed to hate?
An insincere Imperial citizen hears about aliens and says he hates them; a true warrior seeks out the alien, so that he may bask fully in his hatred of it as he wretches his bayonet into the Grot's stomach again and again before blacking out.
How are any of us to take seriously your casual bandying about of great names like the vaunted Creed? Your mutated brain is obviously swollen with delusions of grandeur--although I am more inclined to think that this is simply the best that a sub-human, xenos-groping, freak can manage when he knows himself surrounded by the Emperor's loyal, genetically and theologically superior subjects.
My commanding officer's commanding officer's commanding officer was friends with a guy who's brother was on the spaceship as a guy who knew the techpriest that created a servitor that works on the forgeworld where the brand of cigar that Usakar Creed smokes is made.
Also, I've seen a picture of him before. We're comrades in arms; you wouldn't understand without having served among the glorious ranks of the Imperial Guard.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Lord-Loss wrote:What is this 'Genestealer' you speak of?
A Genestealer is a type of alien, that walks among humans and eats their skin.
They're normally at least nine feet tall, with at least a hundred arms. Their face is made out of spikes, and they can pass through walls.
12265
Post by: Gwar!
Pass through Walls???
So we are not safe even without a Xenosympathiser in our Midst?!
9708
Post by: Orkeosaurus
Don't worry, I prayed to the Emperor to make the walls filled with too much Faith for aliens to pass through.
11693
Post by: Thor665
A lot of action has happened in the past day, so I think you all would appreciate a quick showcase to show you where everything stands.
Page Three Vote Accounting
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1 - Voting Gwar! (Valhallan42nd)
1 - Voting Orkeosaurus (Manchu)
3 - Voting Valhallan42nd (Demogerg, Gwar!, Lord-Loss)
1 - Voting Manchu (Orkeosaurus)
0 - Vote No Lynch
1 - Not Voting (jwelvis629)
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4 Votes for a Lynch.
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Post by: Manchu
Wait! I have a cunning plan . . .
There are seven of us yet only five of us are truly Imperial citizens, meaning that two are nasty xenos sympathizers. At the moment, the loyal and upright outnumber the degenerate mongrels. If one of their number were to be killed now, the remaining one would stand far less of a chance of killing the rest of us. That means it would be to the benefit of the filthy mutants to defend each other in the face of our accusations.
But notice how no one is defending Valhallan42nd. This may be evidence that he is not actually one of the traitors--and perhaps one or more of those who have accused him actually are!
Now I realize that by defending him, I am exhibiting the behavior I just outlined: xenos working together in order to save one another and then overcome us all. But, hear me out. To prove that I am not one of them but rather an Emperor-fearing citizen like most of you others here, I will accuse myself (Vote: Manchu). Because Orkeosaurus has already accused me, that leaves only two of you left to also attack me for me to be wrongfully killed--creating better odds than currently that someone will be lynched today, which is also in the xenos' best interest.
So, as it stands there are two targets: Valhallan42nd, who will not be lynched unless either Orkeosaurus or I change our minds (which will definitely not happen in my case, at least, because I don't think Valhallan42nd is a traitor) or jwelvis629 actually shows up AND me, a far easier target. By exposing myself to this risk, I hope you real humans--who alone have the requisite honor to understand my thinking--will sincerely consider this line of thought.
I do this knowing that while my death will vindicate me as one of the Emperor's own, it will also incriminate others.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Bah. You're in no real danger here. You still need two more votes against you, and that's assuming you don't waffle on the vote against yourself.
It's possible that Jew Elvis is a genestealer, and hasn't come to his defense because he's sick or something. (Or because he wants to be thought of as least as he can be.) It's possible that you're a genestealer, and have not defended Valahallan up until this point because you were holding this post in reserve.
I'm almost inclined to vote for Valhallan just because we need to set someone on fire! Seriously, no one's ever going to be lynched on the first day with it being known for sure that they're a genestealer. Professing loudly that the person isn't a genestealer would probably just make everyone suspicious of that person as well. Since you need 4 votes to be lynched, and you don't normally vote against yourself, and one person hasn't entered the thread yet, there's never going to be too many defending someone about to be lynched. There aren't enough people in the bunker.
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
(Out of Character: Have the game mods attempted to contact jwelvis629?)
18471
Post by: Lord-Loss
Its been three days.
Prods aka 'That guy hasn't posted in a while'
1)A player will get prodded if they have been inactive for three days.
I dont think anyone will get lynched into the seventh player joins in.
11693
Post by: Thor665
Per the rules - weekends are counted as 1 day, so today is officially the third day of inactivity for jwelvis. I was not planning to prod him till vaguely 12:01 am Wednesday. But I shall do so now, though I will note he hasn't posted anything in the intervening days so he's probably just tied up in the horror known as real life. If he doesn't post by sometime on Friday I'll replace him with one of our eager fill ins.
For the record - it is totally possible to have someone lynched without all the players having posted.
It is also possible to help in a self-lynch, as Manchu is currently doing.
And as long as I'm posting...(and now color coded)
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1 - Voting Gwar! (Valhallan42nd)
3 - Voting Valhallan42nd (Demogerg, Gwar!, Lord-Loss)
2 - Voting Manchu (Orkeosaurus, Manchu)
0 - Vote No Lynch
1 - Not Voting (jwelvis629)
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4 Votes for Lynch
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Post by: Demogerg
Manchu wrote:Wait! I have a cunning plan . . .
Cunning plan indeed. by your own admission this plan of yours only cements my vote for valhallan, and it seeds heavy doubt as to your credibility.
My current vote stands.
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
This, this is too much to bear. Your foolishness... I do this to save Manchu, who is clearly not xenos scum. changes vote to Valhallan42nd
Too swiftly to stop him, Valhallan whips out a bolt pistol hidden beneath his robes, and ends it, quite messily. Sadly, it had but one round.
18471
Post by: Lord-Loss
Woot The xenos worshipping scum is dead!
Lets have a sing song!
12265
Post by: Gwar!
-Screams Girlishly and cowers at the sight of Valhallan42nd's brains on the wall-
18471
Post by: Lord-Loss
/kicks Valhallan42nd's body with my foot
So guys, what to do with his corpse?
11693
Post by: Thor665
Wow!
Okay, Day 1 has ended.
You all circle around the fallen form of Valhallan42nd and search over the corpse. All you can find in his pockets are a copy of The Infantryman's Uplifting Primer, and a "I Loves Teh Sphess Emprah" button.
Vallhallan42nd was a loyal Imperial Citizen
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Night 1
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With the first Lynch official we are now in Night 1, you all sleepily wander off to various rooms in the compound for sleep - none of you fully trusting the others. You suspect you won't get much rest tonight as you attempt to barricade your rooms.
If you are Genestealers you may nos PM each other to decide whom you will kill tonight. One of you PM me your consensus.
If you are the Doctor (and I'm leaning towards calling this one Imperial Priest) you may select one person to protect from being killed tonight - if the Genestealers target him you will prevent his death. PM me your choice.
If you are the Inquisitor you may select to investigate one person and discover if they are loyal to the Emperor or to the Genestealers. PM who you wish to investigate to me, I will PM back your discovery.
If you are an Imperial Citizen you may barricade your room and hope that the Will of the Emperor protects you.
Night will last 72 hours from this post or until all relevant Night actions are PMed to me - whichever comes first. If you do not get your action in within the 72 hours then you do not get to perform your Night action.
Final Vote Tally
Page Two Vote Accounting
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4 - Voting Valhallan42nd (Demogerg, Gwar!, Lord-Loss, Valhallan42nd) - Lynched
2 - Voting Manchu (Orkeosaurus, Manchu)
0 - Vote No Lynch
1 - Not Voting (jwelvis629)
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I'll post up the start of Day 2 when it happens and include some basic strategy advice at that point.
Sweet dreams.
12030
Post by: Demogerg
Examine it. was he a Xenos?
12030
Post by: Demogerg
(OOC) got ninja'd!
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
I second the vote for the doctor being a "priest".
"Doctor" makes him sound like some sort of genestealer-loving mad scientist abomination. We would have to burn him and anyone who has talked to him.
But a Priest will deliver us from the scourge of the alien.
(And by the way, alien, my rooms is totally guarded. Seriously, there's a dresser in the way of the door, and you can't pass through it because I prayed to the Emperor to fill the dresser with Faith.)
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Post by: Manchu
Manchu writhes restlessly in his sleep, a conversation from earlier in the day echoing through his dreams . . .
Demogerg wrote:Manchu wrote:Wait! I have a cunning plan . . .
Cunning plan indeed. by your own admission this plan of yours only cements my vote for valhallan, and it seeds heavy doubt as to your credibility.
Fools . . . should have . . . listened . . . now . . . the xenos . . . will come . . . for the one who caught on, he mumbles before drifting into more pleasant dreams of the Emperor receiving Valhallan42nd into His honor roles of immortal sacrifice.
( OOC: That was a pretty intense first day with a mindblowing--thank you, thank you for not throwing tomatoes--conclusion)
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Post by: Thor665
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Night 1
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You are all barricaded in your rooms, awaiting the worst. Jwelvis was carted off to a room of his own, since he was clearly numb with shock and fear and hadn't moved or spoken since discovering the body of Soonto B. Deadicus.
The evening passes slowly as none of you feel safe in the least, but soon enough the light of day creeps out across the land (though deep in this bunker one doubts you can see it). You all return to the communal room and soon enough you realize one of you is missing - jwelvis has not appeared. Figuring he's probably still comatose you all head to his room, only to discover his mangled body in the abbatoir that was once a sleeping quarter.
Checking his remains you discover he is wearing a pair of Ultra-underwear with a smiling figure of Roboute Guilliman giving a thumbs up.
Jwelvis was an innocent Imperial Citizen!
You all glance at each other and realize that this dawn has not brought hope, but instead a promise of further darkness.
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Quick Strategy Update
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Since for most of you (all?) this is your first game of Mafia I'll offer you up some more advice and concern for Day 2. Currently you are all in a LyLo situation - this is Mafia slang for Lynch or Lose. As it stands, if you do not Lynch today *and* have that Lynch be a Genestealer then the Imperial Citizens will lose as statistically it will be impossible to stop the Genestealers (well, okay, if there is an Imperial Priest/Doctor role and you trust him to accurately defend the Genestealer's target you can get by with a no lynch...but you'll be right back in the same situation as today). So, as it stands you really ought to Lynch, and you better make certain that what you Lynch is a Genestealer.
Tips for Townies - Don't be quick to vote, and be cautious of self votes as with only three votes to Lynch, if you self vote both Genestealers can hop on the bandwagon, vote you, get the Lynch, and guarantee victory for themselves. WHat you should be doing is looking at the voting from Day 1 - did anyone seem suspicious? Did there appear to be anyone too quick to team up and vote for a person for no real reason? Normally you'd have a high suspicion of the person who dropped the last vote on an innocent lynch, but unfortunately Valhallan42nd did himself in, so there's not many clues there. Be careful of anyone claiming to be the Inquisitor - they might be a Genestealer and be lying about who they investigated.
Tips for Inquisitor - You best hope you did some good investigation last night. Strategically it might be worth your while to declare yourself if you can definitely point the finger at a guilty Genestealer. The problem is, if you do declare yourself then odds are a Genestealer will also claim to be Inquisitor, in which case you might get hung, or, even if you convince everyone you're legit and get a guilty Genestealer hung, then the last Genestealer will undoubtedly kill you Night 2 to remove the threat you represent. This is a risky time to serve the God Emperor of Mankind.
Tips for Imperial Priest/Doctor - If there is someone declaring as Inquisitor and you believe them to be telling the truth, then you probably want to use your powers to defend them at Night. of course, there might not even be a Doctor role, so it can get chancy for who the Genestealers want to target on Night 2 if they think a doctor is out there. If a Doctor role has lasted this long he probably wants to keep his mouth shut to keep the Genestealers guessing and perhaps be around to prevent an Inquisitor kill.
Tips for Genestealers - You guys are looking pretty, all you have to do is cast doubts on any self confessed Inquisitor claims (or go ahead and claim first so the 2nd Inquisitor perhaps looks more guilty). Your primary goal is twofold - 1. You want to make sure that an innocent is lynched today if at all possible. 2. If it looks like one of you will be hung you want to make sure the Genestealer who isn't being hung looks as innocent as possible so he won't be able to be found easily on Day 3.
Good luck to you all!
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DAY 2 Has now officially started - three week timer in effect from this post
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18471
Post by: Lord-Loss
We should start cleaning up this body, Orkeosaurus what is the best way to clean up a body, as you been in the Imperial Army, you must have alot of exprience with dead people.
12265
Post by: Gwar!
-Looks pale and faint at the sight of yet another dead body-
By The Emperor! What did they do to him!
18471
Post by: Lord-Loss
Ewww! They ripped out his eyes and cummed in his eye sockets!
What sort of heretic filth are these monsters!?!?!
9708
Post by: Orkeosaurus
Arg! Stupid... dresser... I think I put too much Faith in it... Grah! *crash*
Oh gak.
Lord-Loss wrote:We should start cleaning up this body, Orkeosaurus what is the best way to clean up a body, as you been in the Imperial Army, you must have alot of experience with dead people.
Well, what we did was hack them up and build macabre forts from the limbs and torsos. Then we put the heads on poles, to try and make the Orks think that we had killed them, so we would be more intimidating.
Unfortunately severed human heads just makes Orks sort of amused, and forts made from body parts really become something of a liability when they're actually shelled. They just sort of fall down and suffocate you. (On the plus side, this gives you more material for rebuilding it afterwards.)
Our Emperor, who art in glory, hallowed be thy name.
Your Dominion come
Your will be done
Across the stars as it is on Terra
Give us today the blade of your contempt
And do not forgive our trespasses
For we shall not forgive those who trespass against you
Lead us not into inaction
And deliver us from fear
That we may kill the Alien, rebuke the Mutant, and purge the Traitor
Now and forever
Ave Imperator
12265
Post by: Gwar!
-Looks startled- Well, I don't think we need to hack him to bits now. I think the best bet is to just seal the room now. Not much we can do when we are locked in here.
16387
Post by: Manchu
:enters room, sees body:
Golden Throne! Poor chap never even said a word and now he's dead at the hands of alien filth.
:glares around the room:
Whoever did this will pay. I saw the Emperor, praise Him forever, in my dreams last night. He will not allow the foul xenos to prey upon His children forever, you know. Whatever sins these poor wretches committed in life, they are at peace now. Conversely, nothing but the scourge of the Warp waits for the disgusting fiends who so cowardly murdered this man.
Speaking of which, I wonder what guilt those who drove Valhallan to suicide bear . . . I suggest that we use our time today more wisely than yesterday and avoid spilling any more human blood. Demogerg, Gwar!, and L-L all eagerly pressured Valhallan into killing himself. And yet none of you have showed any remorse upon discovering that he was a loyal citizen of the Imperium.
One of you, at least, is a xenos-lover for whom even the name traitor is too good. I urge you to confess at once so that your death may be swift. For even if you manage to murder every one of us Emperor-fearing real humans, the Guard will lay waste to this miserable world soon enough. And what they will do to you is far worse, I'd guess, than what we might.
So come forward. It is clear that one of you, at least, is a stranger to our divine species.
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Post by: Demogerg
Manchu wrote:Stuff
You are eager to press the blame against us, when at the same time you did nothing but blame Orkeo. So now has your opinion changed? and everyone EXCEPT Orkeo and you are suspect to these crimes? I think not. My suspecions of you have grown ever further. I will not press any blame at this point, as we may have been to hasty of late.
18471
Post by: Lord-Loss
How much of Orkeo story can we believe?
I see no proof of his time spent in the Imperial army, which makes him very suspicious.
9708
Post by: Orkeosaurus
You wanna know how I got these scars? Orks! That's how. One of them shot me in the ass. He was laughing about it all battle, and it was both physically and emotionally damaging. I pulled through, because the Emperor is my strength. See this scar? It's from my own bayonet. I dropped in on my foot when the Commissar startled me. But I pulled through, because the Emperor is my strength. See this tattoo? It was supposed to be the Aquila, but I think they guy who drew it was drunk, so it has three wings and no head for some reason (I was unhappy with his workmanship). I pulled through though, because the Emperor is my strength.
16387
Post by: Manchu
Orkeosaurus is certainly not above my suspicions--and I don't believe much of what he says about his alleged past--but the fact that L-L and Demogerg are so opportunistically eager to isolate either him or I is to my mind damning evidence of their conspiratorial intentions. If you're both loyal citizens, then let's have it out in the open. Why did you move against Valhallan? You criticize me for pointing to Orkeosaurus but unlike your judgment in this matter, mine has not yet proven disastrously mistaken.
And out of we remaining five, moreover, only I have had the conviction to call upon the Emperor--who endowed His children not only with divine hatred but also the blessing of intellect to direct that hatred more precisely against His enemies--to formulate some sort of plan for rooting out the traitor, while the rest of you have stood about agog and shifty. That makes you all appear fit the bill of brainless, sub-human xenos, by the way.
Orkeosaurus may be spinning lies, as I certainly think he is, but the others of you have presumed to do nothing but level suspicions. And that makes you all the more suspicious.
12030
Post by: Demogerg
Manchu wrote:Orkeosaurus is certainly not above my suspicions--and I don't believe much of what he says about his alleged past--but the fact that L-L and Demogerg are so opportunistically eager to isolate either him or I is to my mind damning evidence of their conspiratorial intentions. If you're both loyal citizens, then let's have it out in the open. Why did you move against Valhallan? You criticize me for pointing to Orkeosaurus but unlike your judgment in this matter, mine has not yet proven disastrously mistaken.
And out of we remaining five, moreover, only I have had the conviction to call upon the Emperor--who endowed His children not only with divine hatred but also the blessing of intellect to direct that hatred more precisely against His enemies--to formulate some sort of plan for rooting out the traitor, while the rest of you have stood about agog and shifty. That makes you all appear fit the bill of brainless, sub-human xenos, by the way.
Orkeosaurus may be spinning lies, as I certainly think he is, but the others of you have presumed to do nothing but level suspicions. And that makes you all the more suspicious.
You do a nice job as pointing the blame all around, when you know that a single wrong vote cast will end this tormented existance for the lot of us. You also do a good job stirring doubt and encouraging others to vote where you are not willed enough too.
You claim to be of His-divine blessing of intellect, yet you have not enlightened us to the knowledge you are privy to, you have only sewn doubt and suspicion. If you were truely blessed, you would be honor bound to protect us with this knowledge, as the Emperor protects us from distant Holy Terra.
You are not progressing the motives of us Citizens, you are merely pushing that we are all Xenos. I, as a loyalist, am attempting to help the situation by pointing my finger at the one who I think has posted as the largest threat to us all.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
I? A threat? Maybe to the Alien, Demogerg (if that is your real name), but I am a protector of Humankind.
Both you and Lord Loss have been quite accusatory. Unless Manchu is playing everyone for a fool with his talk of "planning against the genestealers" and his little martyrdom stunt (not an impossibility), then either you or Lord Loss (or the both of you) is a genestealer.
Now, I'm a little suspicious of Gwar as well. He seems to be hiding in the back, playing the run-of-the-mill scared civilian. I was distrustful of Jwelvis before he died for the same reason.
16387
Post by: Manchu
The facts are simple. Out of the five remaining, Gwar!, Demogerg, and Lord-Loss, all voted for Valhallan. Orekosaurus voted for me while I initially voted for him but then switched to voting for me in order to save Valhallan and draw out the genestealers. But let's look closer.
I voted for Orkeosaurus, not believing his convoluted stories.
Valhallan defended Orkeo and votes for Gwar!
Demogerg voted for Valhallan. He said Valhallan was "quick to accuse" even though I was the first to accuse anyone.
Orkeosaurus voted for me.
Gwar! voted for Valhallan.
Lord-Loss voted for Valhallan.
Seeing Valhallan cornered for no reason, I then attempted to slow things down. I changed my vote to myself, knowing that it would be impossible to kill Valhallan unless Orkeosaurus changed his vote to Valhallan or Jwelvis spoke up. With two votes against me already, I bet that I'd seem an easier target to the xenos and that if one of those voting for Valhallan (Gwar!, Demogereg, and Lord-Loss) were to flip, I could be reasonably sure that he was an mutant heretic. Unfortunately, Valhallan shot himself before that could happen.
Here's my line of thought: If Demogerg was really so worried about people being quick to accuse, why not accuse me? If his behavior is suspicious, that also casts doubt on Gwar! whom he defended--alien scum sticking together. Gwar! has an alibi, however, in that he may have just been voting for Valhallan as revenge for Valhallan voting for him but he's also been very quiet and a bit creepy. Orkeosaurus had the same revenge motive for voting for me. That leaves Lord-Loss, whose primary reason for accusing Valhallan seems to have been that Valhallan already had two votes against him.
Demogerg, Gwar!, and Lord-Loss are looking very suspicious to me. The question is who looks the guiltiest right now?
You guys got some esplainin' to do.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Below are all the accusations that Valhallan said:
Or are you? You're very willing to accuse us of heresy!
You must be one of them!
At least Orkeosaurus has a story!
That one, Gwar!
I still say it's Gwar!
4 accusations.
See why we were suspicous now Manchu?
16387
Post by: Manchu
That's some pretty poor reasoning, I'd say, when many other accusations were flying around at the same time.
18471
Post by: Lord-Loss
But two of those accusations were at me!
For saying that two people killed Soonto (R.I.P), when it is obvious by just seeing the corpse.
You got to admit thats a little suspicous.
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Post by: Gwar!
I am nothing but a Normal Citizen! I would never get myself mixed up with THAT crowd. Manchu, as you quite rightly said, I voted for Valhallan, but only because he was trying to get me killed!
18471
Post by: Lord-Loss
Gwar! wrote:I voted for Valhallan, but only because he was trying to get me killed!
QFT
When someone accuses you and tries getting you killed, then accusses someone else straight after, its very suspicous.
12030
Post by: Demogerg
Manchu, I know that you have been just as accusatory as Valhallan was, and I am very tempted to vote for you, but I am not certain, and I do not want to be as hasty to vote for a lynch as yesterday.
Right now we have
Orkeo, who has been sharing some interesting stories with us that have very little relevance to his status in this situation.
Lord Loss, who voted for valhallan and claims to have voted for him out of being accusatory, this is even more suspicious than usual because he was the 3rd vote, a 'bandwagon vote' if you will
Manchu, who has been attempting to manipulate all of us into voting.
Gwar, who has been very quiet throughout all of this, too quiet for my liking, we all known that to win in a situation such as this you must give up as little information as possible...
and Me, who has been trying to pick out the Xenos amongst us this entire time. I feel strongly that Manchu is one of the Xenos, He was the first to vote, and he has been very quick to lay blame. Lord-Loss also appears to be a Xenos based on his voting record.
18471
Post by: Lord-Loss
Demogerg wrote:Lord Loss, who voted for valhallan and claims to have voted for him out of being accusatory, this is even more suspicious than usual because he was the 3rd vote, a 'bandwagon vote' if you will
Lord-Loss also appears to be a Xenos based on his voting record.
When some stranger is trying to persuade people to kill you, then you would suspect them too.
Im becoming increasing suspicous of Orkeo...
16387
Post by: Manchu
I dare you all to vote for me. Vote for me and have the blood of a loyal Imperial citizen on your hands . . . or in the case of two of you, your wretched claws, tentacles, mandibles, etc. As for me being manipulative, it seems to me that Demogerg knows that I'm getting too close to the truth and that makes him nervous. Are you really being cautious or are you just biding your time because you're confident? After all, if you are an alien, you have a marked advantage.
There are only three humans left and I know I'm one of them so that means out of the rest only two can actually be faithful citizens. After you do me in, you'll only have two others to contend with seeing as how you--or someone--has already dealt with another two. It's obvious to me that you mean to kill me as soon as you can. If you don't lynch me today, you'll surely murder me tonight. Either way, you'll be damned for it because the Emperor protects.
As I said before, the Guard will inevitably come to this miserable rock and cleanse you off of it along with the rest of your stinking, repulsive hive brethren. I'd prefer to do my part by killing you myself. But I'm not totally sure about you and I won't damn my own soul by killing an Emperor-fearing citizen when there are xenos around that need murdering.
18471
Post by: Lord-Loss
I know you to be a loyal citizen Manchu. The most suspicous of us all is the so called 'Guardsman' Orkeo!
9708
Post by: Orkeosaurus
Why is everyone trying to Swiftboat me? Goddammit, I'm a veteran! I'm hardened! I'm BS4! See this stare? It's a thousand yards long!
Lord Loss, you have been the most suspicious person out of the three of us. On page one, you started to accuse known innocent and martyr Valahallan of treason. You also trivialized the murders, called us heretics, got drunk, and misspelled the God Emperor of Man's name.
Then you tried to accuse me of heresy for wearing my coat, while voting to kill a loyal servant of the Imperium.
Then you criticized Valhallan (known martyr for the God Emperor of Man) for "saying the Emperor's name" (when you had misspelled His name prior),and asked what a Genestealer was, despite the fact that everyone who wasn't underhive chemmer knows what a Genestealer is (but then again, I bet everyone you associate with knows as much about them as you can; you probably had no frame of reference for a loyalist).
And how do you know Manchu to be a loyal citizen? The only possible way would be for you to be a Genestealer yourself. You know Manchu isn't your partner (Demo or Gwar), so you know he's a human, is that right? I see no other explanation.
Demogerg has been suspicious as well. Quick to point fingers, the first to go against Valhallan. Seems to hate Manchu, who seems like one of the most concerned with stopping the monsters.
Gwar seems to have been taking it light. Not stepping on anyone's toes. He helped lynch Valhallan, but that was after he accused him. I still don't know what to think about Gwar. He might be honest, he might be making sure he gives nothing away.
16387
Post by: Manchu
Orkeosaurus wrote:Lord Loss, you have been the most suspicious person out of the three of us.
Wait, the three of us? What?
18471
Post by: Lord-Loss
I know Manchu to be a loyal citizen as the God Emperor of Mankind called to me in my dreams last night and told me this!
He told me to watch Orkeo carefully and said his 'Imperial army' were on there way here.
Friends we must disccuss the death of the poor soul who died last night....
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Post by: Gwar!
Orkeosaurus wrote:Gwar seems to have been taking it light. Not stepping on anyone's toes. He helped lynch Valhallan, but that was after he accused him. I still don't know what to think about Gwar. He might be honest, he might be making sure he gives nothing away.
I assure you friend I am not hiding anything. I am just still trying to absorb what has happened in these last few days.
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Post by: Demogerg
Lord-Loss wrote:I know you to be a loyal citizen Manchu.
I know Manchu to be a loyal citizen as the God Emperor of Mankind called to me in my dreams last night and told me this!
You have one thing which you have said for certain multiple times, and that is that you "know" Manchu is Loyal to the Emperor.
Manchu on the other hand has layed some blame at your feet. His ruse is revield as the ploy that it is.
As the Imperial Inquisitor stationed here on this rock, I can say for certain that Gwar is not a Xenos.
knowing that Gwar is not a xenos, and that I am not a xenos, this leaves 3 people, 2 of which are blaming the same 1 who is left alone. Lord-Loss and Manchu are trying to force our hand into killing an innocent and ending all of our lives.
Your claims to Manchu's loyalty to the Emperor can mean only one thing, that you are protecting him as a Xenos, which means that you also are a Xenos. As Xenos scum I hereby vote to lynch Lord-Loss
vote: Lord-Loss
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Post by: Lord-Loss
You Lier!
You are not a Imperial Inquisitor, for I am a Inquisitor!
vote: Demogerg
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Post by: Gwar!
I think that Demogerg's argument is a lot more convincing. I am going to have to side with him.
vote: Lord-Loss
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Post by: Demogerg
Lord-Loss wrote:You Lier!
You are not a Imperial Inquisitor, for I am a Inquisitor!
vote: Demogerg
Your pleas will go unnoticed Genestealer scum.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Ive been 'digging my own grave' the last few days.
You will see, Im an Inquisitor and Orkeo and Demogerg are xenos scum!
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Post by: Thor665
Page Four Vote Accounting
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1 - Voting Demogerg (Lord-Loss)
2 - Voting Lord-Loss (Demogerg, Gwar!)
0 - Vote No Lynch
2 - Not Voting (Manchu, Orkeosaurus)
2 - Dead and perhaps buried (jwelvis629, Valhallan42nd)
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With 5 Alive it is 3 votes to Lynch
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
This ends here!
Vote: Lord Loss
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Blah, you fools!
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
You won't hurt anyone else!
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Post by: Manchu
Wait, this doesn't seem right! If Demogerg is the Inquisitor, why didn't you say so earlier? And if Lord-Loss is the Inquisitor, why is he talking about the Emperor speaking to him in his dreams?
Here's how things stand: if Demogerg is an Inquisitor and successfully lynches Lord-Loss, who turns out to be an alien, then Orkeosaurus must be the remaining genestealer. This is true because I am a human and Demogerg, as an Inquisitor, must be one, too, and he has told us that he investigated Gwar! and found him to be human. That only leaves Orkeosaurus.
Conversely, if Lord-Loss is discovered to be a human after what now seems his inevitable death, it's likely that Demogerg and Gwar! are the genestealers because Demogerg will have falsely asserted Gwar!'s innocence.
What doesn't make sense is why Gwar! and Orkeosaurus both so eager to vote for Lord-Loss. It is likely that one of them is a genestealer so why vote for another genestealer?
((I edited this: I voted for Lord-Loss but was about to change my mind. Wouldn't have mattered anyway, as things turned out.))
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Post by: Thor665
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End of Day 2
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Gwar and Demogerg grab hold of Lord-Loss, struggling to drag him to the ground and calling for the others to help them. Manchu pauses, still trying to work over the angles, but Orkeosaurus gleefully leaps forward and plunges his knife into Lord-Loss' belly. The three of them stand up and nod knowingly, content that they have ended the xenos threat. Gwar! drops to his knees and searches through Lord-Loss' pockets.
"Now to find the proof of his heresy," Gwar! mutters as he pulls forth...an Inquisitorial badge. Lord-Loss was The Inquisitor "Wait a minute," Gwar! mutters, "if he was the Inquisitor then you..." He turns towards Demogerg only to receive a nasty blow to the head from a handy lead pipe. Manchu lets out a bellow of outrage as he realizes the treachery before him, but before he can act Orkeosaurus and Demogerg reveal their true colors as they open the doors of the bunker and let in their fellow xenos worshiping brethren.
Orkeosaurus and Demogerg were Genestealers!
Genestealers achieve victory (with Lord Loss dead they would night kill either Gwar! or Manchu and then on Day 3 would control the votes and simply Lynch the final Imperial Citizen)
Roles;
Lord-Loss - Inquisitor
Orkeosaurus - Genestealer
Demogerg - Genestealer
Everyone else - Imperial Citizen.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Atleast I got a awesome death
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Post by: Gwar!
Dang nabit!
Damn you orko and your trickster ways!
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Post by: Manchu
Well, my suspicions were mostly correct. But I have to say, you damn 'nids played it well by asserting Gwar!'s innocence. That really threw me, although it was too late to do anything about it once Gwar! gave you his vote. The other thing that really gave me pause was Lord-Loss's description of finding out my innocence in a dream. That sounded highly implausible. Ah well, the Guard and Space Marines will be along shortly to rid the Imperium of your kind. Even so, cheers to you for a well thought out strategy.
Who's up for Round Two?
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I was trying to gain you as ally (spel?) but obviously failing
I kind of killed myself here  But I've learnt from my mistakes  (Dont post drunk)
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Double post :(
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Triple Post :(
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Post by: Manchu
Holy triple post, Batman!
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Post by: Demogerg
That was a lot of fun, you reallllly gotta think about what you post before you post it.
it was our plan to figure out who the inquisitor was, then to call out a non-inquisitor innocent as a human, almost guarenteeing that vote in our favor because they know its true that they are innocent. Lord-Loss gave up his status without actually declaring it, which pushed Gwar right into our hands (claws) as soon as Gwar voted along with me, it was over, and the fact that Orkeo didnt vote untill Gwar voted made it 10x more sweet.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
How did I give you my status? Got to not make the same mistakes as this game
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Post by: Thor665
Greetings,
Congrats to the Genestealer team, but I suspect those who played for the Imperium will be even more wary of your Xenos trickery next time.
Please, everyone who played, feel free to discuss why you did what you did, and what you think did or did not work for your team - it will help you all become better players for next time.
I will probably post up a brief review of the major "errors" each side committed (errors insomuch as the basic game theory of the game regards them). These errors will be just as I see them (and with my advantage of having played the game before and knowing all the roles at all times - which oddly does help). I'll post that up probably osmetime tomorrow as I'd rather let you all have at least some time to reflect on what did or did not work without me coloring it too much.
Monday/Tuesday I'll also set up a Registration thread for the next game of which I hope for at least 9-11 players so we can all have maybe a few more day/night cycles (7 players is almost always over by Night 2 or Day 3)
Regards,
Thor.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I made quite a few mistakes
By the time I found out that Orkeo was a Genestealer, I couldnt realy do much.
I had been accussed numerous times and the Genestealers had some convincing stories.
I think I've learnt to be more careful about what I post, as not thinking before posting got me into alot of trouble
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Post by: Manchu
Ah, well. It was good fun all around anyhow. We were too easily duped, is all. I would have like to tested their admittedly genius strategy against greater citizen cooperation.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I have to admit those Genestealers were tricky!
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
Excellent job Demogerg!
Now we recieve:
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Post by: Demogerg
Lord-Loss wrote:How did I give you my status? Got to not make the same mistakes as this game 
like I quoted in the game, you used certainties to broadcast that you Knew that Manchu was innocent.
playing off this was pretty key. Certainties imply that you know something, and only 2 types of players could know anything about another player in that last game, Genestealers and the Inquisitor.
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Post by: Demogerg
Orkeosaurus wrote:Excellent job Demogerg!
Now we recieve:

This is my new desktop here on my work computer.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
/Scribbles into notebook
Got it
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Post by: Gwar!
Who here is amazed I was not the first one lynched?
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Post by: Manchu
Me! (I fought the urge, I really did.) Were you trying to get lynched? Maybe we thought you were too obvious a suspect?
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
Well, I had Lord Loss pegged for a stealer hybrid, and Demogerg. At least I was half-right.
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Post by: Thor665
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Thor's Totally Infallible and Undoubtedly Correct Post Game Analysis
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Okay, first thing's first - the title is a joke. I am a relatively new player to the game, and all of you are newer yet. I've read a lot of the theory and I had the advantage of 20/20 hindsight on all of your actions while also knowing all the roles. It goes almost without saying that your first few games will potentially be a little rocky before you learn some good strategies (probably much like your first few Warhammer games went). That said I'm just going to outline the biggest "errors" in play that could be helpful for you all to be aware of as you plan to participate in a new game.
Imperium Error(s)
Being my usual long-winded self, when Manchu asked my via PM what I thought were the mistakes made I rattled off a list of three things that I thought went badly. Manchu applied about four of his brain cells to the consideration and promptly offered back that I really had only listed three variations of a single problem (and he was right). So, here lies the single Imperium error along with some examples that may have once claimed to be errors.
Imperium needs to talk more.
That's it. The way for town to root out Genestealers is to catch people in lies, or make them crack and say something they shouldn't, or look for irregularities and patterns in voting. It is not uncommon for Day 1 to last at least 6 pages for a group of 7 players in more dedicated Mafia Forums. The more conversation that happens each day the better the chances for an Imperium win. Some of this may have been caused by all of you so happily getting into character for the exercise (and lord knows I loved all of that) but a lot of it was probably simple inexperience. For example - Valhallan42nd made a common newbie error in self-hammering himself. I have read a few game theory articles on this habit which is quite common for an innocent to use (after all, how better to help your side by proving your innocence?). The problem was that it cut off the day, ended conversation, and hurried you all into Night Phase where the Genestealers get to play. Since he knew he was innocent Valhallan (even though he was probably doomed) should have kept talking and trying to perhaps sound out who amongst his accusers was perhaps a little too sure of their accusation. (a good question would have been "could each of you describe the reason(s) you see me as most likely being a Genestealer?". The trick is force people to explain logic as much as possible - as Imperium can do this much easier then Genestealers.
You all did quite well in feeling that there was a good chance one of the people who had voted for Valhallan42nd was a Genestealer, this is a common truth in the game that when an innocent is lynched there is usually at least one scum helping with the voting. Lord-Loss also had some potentially useful information in having investigated Orkeo and discovering he was a Genestealer - his problem was trying to convince you all of this and then having Demogeorg's clever trick of declaring first as Inquisitor and turning the heat onto Lord-Loss himself. Could an earlier claim by Lord-Loss as Inquisitor have helped? Hard to say. It is important, though, to remember that besides the Inquisitor there is one other role that generally knows who is or is not innocent - The Genestealers. Gwar! fell prey to this in his vote, since he knew he was innocent it was easy to believe that Demogeorg was obviously the Inquisitor.
Genestealer Error(s)
You guys played a great game and the only potential (though understandable) game play error you made would be your choice of night killing jwelvis. Yes, it all worked out, and I know you night killed him simply because he hadn't been posting and you probably wanted the more active players to have more chance to play. However, in the final analysis, the Genestealers should always nightkill with two thoughts in mind.
1. Who is the most helpful person to the town? (a suspected Inquisitor or other power role is a good night kill. As is any player who seems clever or logical enough to maybe be able to figure out one of you during Day Phase.)
2. Who is everyone confident is Imperium? (you want to night kill players you aren't likely to be able to manage a lynch on)
Jwelvis, since he hadn't posted yet and was probably about to be replaced would have been very easy to convince the other players to lynch him on Day 2 more then likely. A better target probably would have been one of the other posters.
All of the above is just my suggestions based off game theory for the game - and a lot of it can be twisted (well, if the town knows we should night kill the most loyal seeming town, let's night kill the 2nd most loyal seeming - then they'll think the most loyal is perhaps scummy). But those are just my thoughts on where play might have been improved.
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Post by: Orkeosaurus
One thing we were keeping in mind was the possibility of there being a Priest around.
We figured if there was one, he probably wouldn't bother to protect someone who hadn't posted yet. On the other hand someone like Manchu would be a good one to protect. We didn't want to let the game go on any longer than we could help it.
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Post by: Demogerg
Orkeosaurus wrote:One thing we were keeping in mind was the possibility of there being a Priest around.
We figured if there was one, he probably wouldn't bother to protect someone who hadn't posted yet. On the other hand someone like Manchu would be a good one to protect. We didn't want to let the game go on any longer than we could help it.
Also, on day 1 Manchu was pointing his finger at Orkeo, so if we killed him orkeo would look guilty of being a 'stealer.
Lord Loss, me, and Gwar all voted for valhallan, we had a chance of convincing LL and Gwar to vote in our favor in the second day, so we didnt want to kill either of them.
and if we killed JW it would give no hints as to who the stealers were!
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Post by: Manchu
Demogerg wrote:and if we killed JW it would give no hints as to who the stealers were!
That definitely worked. I can't tell you how surprised I was to be alive after Night 1.
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